why do people hate him?
Literally Konno Yuki but worst.Author was a hack so he killer her off so incels can self insert into kirito
>>284014634He insists upon himself
>>284014634He has a harem despite being a manlet. It's unrealistic
>>284014654>self inserting as the suicidally depressed techno-autist who wishes he was dead every other arcDo people really? Everyone knows Asuna is the real self insert
>>284014634Because he didn’t fuck his superior cousin
He has no personality
>>284014694>self-inserting into GLOP'Dfag/10
>>284014634Gary StuAlso Dot Hack was first and utilized the MMO setting better
>>284014634they hate him because they are like him
>>284014634He's a filthy Beater.
>>284014634imho a lot of people have forgiven him because some of the other MCs are more egregious
>>284015220yeah we didn't know how we good we had it. Look at all the dogshit isekai made today
>>284014654You word this like she was killed off due to people being mad she took the spotlight for an arc
>>284014634Black goat
>>284014634Jealousy breeds hatred.
>>284014634He's THE anime Gary Stu, and the first of the bullshit OP isekai heroes even though SAO isn't technically an isekai since it's VR.He started a god awful trend we are still suffering through to this day, since unlike popular genres of yesteryear THIS SHIT REFUSES TO DIE.
>>284014686No he doesn’t. He only wants and loves Asuna.
>>284016702>He started a god awful trendThe trend that blew up more than a decade and a half after his inception?
>>284014634BecauseMale BADFemale GOODAnd also apparently he lost like 90% of his fights including losing to heathcliff twice and losing to yuuki twice.
>>284014634I don't, he's boring but harmless compared to all the MCs after him
>>284015220That and Asuna being the real Mary Sue
>>284014634Because they ain't him
>>284014634because he is the first draft for every single OP super duper cool and edgy "i dont even know my own strength" self insert character who never loses and has every female character ovulating within his presence. he walked so trash like pic related could run.
He makes Guts look closeted
>>284017922>OP super duper cool and edgy "i dont even know my own strength" self insert character who never losesthat doesn't describe Kirito at all
>>284017327Trends don't just appear immediately. It's not like it went "SAO is successful, let's immediately put out isekai" considering the production time it takes to make an anime. Even this very chart shows there's a clear before and after SAO.Plus at the time of SAO, high school battle harem was still popular and wouldn't fall off for a couple of years
>>284016702based generic fantasy slurper
>>284016671This
>>284018216>WHY DOES HE GET FORCED TO HAVE A SHITTY MID AF GIRLFRIEND WHO EVERYONE LOVES AND I DONT!?!?!?>ITS NOT FAIR!!!>MARY SUE>SELF INSERT>POWER FANTASY
There's a lot of misinformation in this thread.I think the dislike for Kirito is multilayered.For me, I don't dislike him but I dislike SAO because it's an Elder S tier sufferingkino premise that was instead used on baby's first teenage love story
>>284016702>the anime gary stu>gets his pasty ass whipped every time he's out of his VR cope cage>entire first half of the Ordinal Scale movie dedicated to how physically unfit he is>cousin batters him at kendo because he keeps trying to, ironically, swing a sword like he's in an anime>lasts all of two episodes of season 3 in the real world before being stabbed like a london resident and put in a comahe's not very good at this gary stu shit i gotta say.
>>284016702I miss the retarded Frodo edits around this show. For a stupid meme I actually found them funny.
>>284018291He literally spent like 75% of ordinal scale doing jack shit and only acted because of asuna.Just one of many pieces of evidence that says shes the mary sue.
>>284014634Because reddit and ecelebs told them to.
>>284020089they're all incels who are afraid of male characters
>>284014634He looking like he sits in the chair
>>284016702>He's THE anime Gary StuENTER
>>284014634They could never make me hate him. He did, however, spawn the most rancid imitators to this day.
>>284024544That Shinji
Just angry incestfags.
>>284018281How is the premise suffering kino? Never watched it, but isn't it that they're trapped in a VR game, kinda like dot hack?
>>284025674That's exactly the point.They're all in hospital beds "comatose" because every attempt to wake them up kills them. And hitting 0 hp kills you irl anyway.Imagine everything you could do with that. Serial Killer antagonists, mind control antagonist, concern about what's happening to their real bodies, etc. Maybe your protagonist goes from a bright-eyed gamer kid to full on I am the bone of my sword.Instead it's all a backdrop for a love story.
>>284018014None of the retards who hate him read the light novels; the anime was pretty bad about removing his internal thoughts so the viewer isn't exposed to his many insecurities and heavy survivor's guilt over Sachi and Eugeo's deaths. Then they cry harem because "many female characters" despite Kirito never showing interest in any female besides Asuna. It could be an allowable criticism of the early series (though I would disagree), but it's definitely not one of the character.
Kirito was mediocre at best for its genre and since this mediocrity took off, it started an avalanche of look-alike, copy-cats and knock-offs emulating the setup while also creating the most basic template design-wise.
>>284025674NTA but: >trapped in death game when you just wanted to play vidya + all the bullshit with losing friends, being isolated, etc. >get shit on for things outside your control like being a beta tester despite doing everything in your power to help people such as sharing map data for free so n00bs and non front line players don't fall into traps>when you get out your loved one is trapped forcing you back in>finally everything is good, but the FUCKING GOVERNMENT pressures you, an ordinary kid, to play detective for a murder case because "it's connected to video games, that's what you like right">government then asks you to do part time lab rat tests for equipment that gradually fucks with your SOUL (canonically, look how the Fluclight system works) >but it's cool don't worry bro the caring government will erase your memories due to the NDA you signed lol>btw remember that murder case the government asked you to help with? Lol sorry you're in a coma now>don't worry though the government uploaded your soul into a network of artificially born true human souls for reasons, surely it could never be hacked haha...He never wanted to be involved in any of this shit, and he gets worn down more and more as the series progresses.
>>284014694Where do you think you are? >>284014654She died a virgin. Ha ha
>>284026212Wow. Poor kid.
Cute Ito was made by the Gardiners, just like Kuroyukihime. Nobody likes unnatural advantage, desu.
>>284021285You talk like a complete homo.
>>284024417>The girl is the true suei never realized that until now
>>284014634Envy.
Why are people still making youtube videos about how SAO is the worst anime? There's already tons of those videos. Make a video on something more recent or something older.
>>284027004>Why are people still making youtube videos about how SAO is the worst animeThey are? based.
>>284026588>top human physique and intelligence>idol singer who has massive public support>master politician>commander of a warship>leader of a military industrial complex able to build cutting edge war machines that can contest against two world powers>psychic powers>also literally created for maximum charisma and to rule humanity>the virginity Mary reincarnated >teenager
>>284027004Their feelings got hurt because kirito won like 3 fights.They are also illiterate and have a negative attention span. They missed the part where kayaba akihiko literally stated his motive in episode 1 and then stated his motive again when he died.They're too stupid to just say that they're mad that they went in expecting a science fiction action adventure, but got a rom com instead.
>>284014634Soulless generic npc of a protag, that's why
>>284027163That cant be right. All of that is way worse than any character I can think of that people would hate. Let me guess, she gets the pussy pass right? Is that it?
>>284025984>None of the retards who hate him read the light novels; the anime was pretty bad about removing his internal thoughts so the viewer isn't exposed to his many insecurities and heavy survivor's guilt over Sachi and Eugeo's deaths.LN Kirito still has the "random plotpoints suddenly become about Kirito for no reason" problem, but it generally feels like he succeeds at things due to trying every angle out of sheer autism, rather than just pulling powers out of his ass.Basically any time Kirito has to train at something or figure it out through trial and error, the anime changes it to him just succeeding on his first try.
>>284026212IIRC it's usually agreed that the Kawahara character who suffers more than anyone else is Chrome Falcon from Accel World. Due to being basically Guts if he couldn't find peace even in death.
I don't hate him, I just hate his series post Aincrad. Author flew too close to the sun by establishing a quality mono relationship too early, now he has to pay the price by endlessly harembaiting.
>>284026212>Get stuck in the simulation for 100 years of simulated time living among AIs, turn into a crazy AI supremacist calling yourself the Star King>Wake up with a thousand-yard stare and tell the technician to erase your memories, deciding that if he doesn't then fuck humanity>He does but he made a backup of your mind first, the backup wakes up and says "Welp fuck humanity"Not only is the Star King running around, but it's also implied that Yui is taking over supercomputers and evolving into Skynet while Kirito's not looking.In Accel World, the character of Graphite Edge (who's heavily implied to be an older Kirito) is portrayed as extremely paranoid, refusing to show his real face to anyone and possibly hiding out in an embassy for fear of his life. Also there's enough weird hinting around Asuna that she's likely dead.
>>284024417All hail our lord jesus yamato and his equally messiah-like wife.
>>284014707Whatever his faults he definitely has a defined personality, don't blame the author for what the anime staff did with him.
>>284014720.hack was so bad that everyone thought sao was good for months before everyone realized it wasn't that sao was good.
>>284025984>But but you chuds don't understand, Kirito makes *humble beta noises* so it's okayyy for him to be surrounded by womenI don't hate harem slop but Kirito falls into worse of both worlds. People should watch abridged if they hate sao Kirito. Abridged kirito goes from worst to best character in his own show.
>>284014634He's always the strongest, always the coolest, always winning, always loved by everyone, and does absolutely nothing to earn any of it. He is the prototype for every single isekai protagonist that followed. He is super special for no reason at all and he starts out as a nobody but then timeskip lol he's the second coming of Jesus and everything has to revolve around him and what he's doing because he's just the strongest and bestest and the most popular and everyone should be asking where's kirito when he's not on screen.
>>284029993Its not harem slop if he only loves one girl.
>>284030081>No u don't understand every major character being a protagonists ona hole is NOT harem chud!!!T. Every fucking reset era foid after making over 9000 posts seething about Rudius Their wombs literally quake like this when the selection bias for kiritos harem kicks in combined with his supposed dissinterest.
>>284030145Oh well. He fucks Asuna nightly and rightly, and damn do I envy him for it.
>>284029993SAO Abridged gave me a few laughs (and handles Sachi better than the original) but the writers are dumbfucks who keep misunderstanding basic plot points and then mocking the author for it>The secret group Laughing Coffin don't use their secret tattoo to identify themselves to each other, they just put their guild name over their heads and show the tattoo for no reason>Kayaba literally forgot his plan>Kirito's ALO character spawning in midair in a PVP zone on the other side of the world from his race's starting village was perfectly normal and had nothing do with him logging in with a glitched account while another player with the same IP address was thereFor that last one they even had the character complaining about the "coincidence" of both players being in the same zone brag that they're a super-genius so if they can't understand it no one can.
SAO is the only franchise where fans agree "You need an above-average IQ to understand this series" but instead of feeling smug it makes them horribly depressed
>>284014634The first anime painted him as mary sue by leaving one important detail not as well explained. Back then mary sue self inserts werent as well received as nowadays.Just for clarification, the datil was about secret skill trees and time inside the game making your reaction time a little faster the longer you've been playing. He got access to a secret tree the same way many other players did, his was only a little different because he focused on being alone and had more time within the game while everyone else was speccing into party playing. But his secret tree was in no way superior. His reaction time was higher than others because he was a neet no life who played the beta the longest. The VN pretty much says he was a loser. But after some time, everyone caught up as everyone was stuck in the game anyways.
>>284025748>Serial Killer antagonists, mind control antagonist, concern about what's happening to their real bodies, etc. Maybe your protagonist goes from a bright-eyed gamer kid to full on I am the bone of my sword.And all of that happened. Not only in the VN, in the show too
>>284031266Yeah.It happened poorly.So poorly that they even reincarnated the serial killer plotline in Alicization because PoH was one of the only villains with any potential.
>>284031173>But his secret tree was in no way superior.Nah, it was superior because Kayaba was being theatrical and wanted a Hero to fight. Though it was intended to be only the first such skill, with others unlocking on the higher floors.The broken part wasn't just "using two swords" (depending on the version of the story you could do that anyway), it was a set of OP special moves like Starburst Stream which required two swords to perform. While also keeping the ability to use regular one-handed skills for increased versatility.
>>284030901Those canned laughs are not why abridged sao is good. Abridged sao is primarily good by giving Kirito and Asuna a good arc where they both start from zero and make it somewhere. A positive character arc if you will which makes you want to root for them. If the humor falls flat for you because you are too bitter and cannot imagine a tongue in cheek elbow without a mountain of spite behind it when that has been the bread and butter of a lot of abridged clips I can't hold it against you but I'd at least ask you to understand people like abridged kirito because of his personality and growth instead of how many bitches orbit his dick (female mindset)>>284031173You mean wn zoom zoom
>>284031173>Originally Kirito beat Kayaba by using his shared marriage inventory to equip Asuna's sword after his own was disarmed, catching him off-guard>Changed to Kirito dropping to 0 HP but holding his avatar together through willpower
>>284031445Yeah Kirito breaking the game mechanics with shounen anime angst was retarded.
>>284031291I know you didn't watch/read and you are bullshitting, baiting and gaslighting newfags. but I feel like discussing SaO to summon the resident mushoko schizo.>Kayaba was being theatrical and wanted a Hero to fight.On floor 100. He in no way favored Kirito,he really was hands off as much as he could to keep the game rolling>Though it was intended to be only the first such skill, with others unlocking on the higher floors.Like with everyone else. Other players even had access to hidden classes and the characters straight out describe Kirito being left behind because his secret shit wasn't going nowhere
>>284031445>>284031482It was retarded but cool back then, and by the end of Alicization you come to appreciate it. Too angry to die is one of the best tropes ever. What I found to be irritating was how Kayaba just stood there with a dying Kirito killing him really slowly
>>284018014>self insert character who never losesalso kirito barely won anything by himself
>>284031500>Like with everyone else. Other players even had access to hidden classes and the characters straight out describe Kirito being left behind because his secret shit wasn't going nowhereSAO doesn't have classes. There's lots of Hidden Skills but Kirito and Heathcliff were the only two players with Unique Skills, restricted to a single player. Kirito himself also has some Hidden Skills, like being one of the first wave of players to unlock Martial Arts before the method became common knowledgeIn-story Kayaba created another 8 Unique Skills to be released on floor 90+, but Kawahara only had concepts for four of them.https://old.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/29y8mj/my_summary_of_kawahara_reki_sao_panel_at_ax/
>>284029658Jesus christ I stopped at GGO what the hell
>>284032105you should read accel world its good
the best episode of SAO is in the second season (I think) when kirito just returned to the real world and is trying to adjust. it's really slow, the tone is really contemplative and you actually feel like the show might be about something.
>>284030901Wasn't Kayaba's plan in Abridged not actually a plan at all and just him going crazy from sleep deprivation and "no logout + die in game die irl" being a glitch so he just tried winging it as a master plan
>>284032203It's not that Abridged Kayaba forgot his plan, it's that he started off quoting the original saying something like "Why did I even do this?" only to laugh and say it would be a stupid anticlimax if a writer actually made the villain forget their own plan.So now a ton of people who only watched SAOA think that Kayaba in the original forgot his own plan.
>>284031500>Hands off>Heads the biggest strongest clearers guild. Abridgeds plothole fix here is way more on point, with heathcliff losing himself in the jrpg only to realize running an MMO guild is a horrible, thankless, additional problem he created for himself. By the end of the story, his envy and respect for Kirito despite his misanthropy was driven by his desire to have not wasted so much of his time dealing with that.
>>284024417they made this got damm movie just to sell more strike freedoms these motherfuckers...
>>284014634My anime techtubers said hes bad so I agree
>>284025984We don't need monologues for everything. People need to learn to accept the superiority of third person point of view and actually use their heads to read between the lines.
>>284032674Third person limited is superior in every way to third person (true)
>>284032674i'm done with monologues in general, and i know how much they love monologuing in animekeep that shit in manga and light novels. you have 12-24 eps to work with along with the magical art of animation
>>284033959But how are we supposed to know how they're feeling if they don't tell us?
I was around for when Sugou was seen as the biggest scumbag in anime history for about a month cuz he was rapey.
>>284014634He's a cardboard cutout self insert with no personality. He wins because he is the main character, not because he has any outstanding qualities. In fact all of the characters are basically blank slates. It also completely betrays its supposed premise. It's disappointing when it turns out to be a low quality teen romance and not the "trapped in a death game" thing you were expecting. ItThat said, SAO really isn't THAT bad compared to the depths of slop we've descended into today. It would go unnoticed if it were released now.However, I do blame it for popularizing the VRMMO thing, which subsequently spawned the aborted fetus that is litrpg. So I hate it even more now.
>>284033239This. Though I do think the latter has its place, as does first person, TPL is the absolute best perspective for the vast majority of literature. I have no idea why otaku literature specifically leans so heavily on first person though. I guess because nips in particular prefer it as a means of self-insertion? The only light novel I've even read that utilizes it especially well is Mushoku Tensei. And that's because the narrative is actually structured around that point of view and it isn't just a way of allowing the reader to self-insert into Rudeus's fucked up headspace.
>>284035096>popularizing the VRMMO thingAt just the gave us SLF. It's a fun series that doesn't try to take itself too seriously. It does literally everything SAO attempts to do an order of magnitude better.
>>284034632>niggas in anime will straight up tell you, the audience, everything single thing that passes through their head>but will take 2 entire seasons plus OVA specials to confess to a girldear lord give me the strength to make it through this
>>284034910Yeah but he was onto something. The only problem is that quinella picked up where he ended and basically proved you really can't mind control people.
>>284031482It was properly foreshadowed though, the first time the game's laws were broken is when Asuna broke speed constraints and rushed to Kirito's side when Kradeel murdered Godfried. She ran faster than the game allowed.
>>284014634Anything past season 1 is nom-canon (in my mind)
>>284024417MY FUARKING HERO
>>284029887Kirito: Time to analyze everything and figure out how to do thingsAsuna: KIRITO KUN KIRITO KUN EVERYTHING IS ABOUT ME LOOK IM GONNA GET NAKED AND TAKE A BATH NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE STORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>>284032395He was hands off until the 25th floor and he realized that they really can't afford to have any more delays with clearing the game. The front line was probably like 150 players at most and they literally lost 30+ of the best players in one boss raid in addition whoever else died on the field and dungeon. At that point it took them 5 months just to do 25 floors.
>>284014634He's a beater.
>>284014634He lost any respect i could have had for him when he didnt behead that faggot with his knife in the parking lot at the end of season 2. If he had the balls to kill for his wife i could have liked kirito.
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>>284037037This was the best arc, I would have loved to see her care for Kirito. It's too bad everything was skipped over.
I just finished watching this for the first time. I liked it because it was a fun to watch. However It makes me feel immensely sad because I have no friends and have never kissed a girl at the age of 33. I am actually so sad and want to die my life is so pathetic
>>284037140I mean, more or less same. Just don't kill yourself. Let your passing come naturally
>>284036935It's a death game, he doesn't care if people clear it.
>>284025748>all a backdrop for a love storyThe best part.
>>284014634he raped Guts but didn't pay Gabimo for it.I will not stand for thieves just because he's white.
>>284035096everything you said is not true at all. it seems like you just copy pasted whatever some pseud eceleb said
>>284014634reki kawahara is a bad writer.
>>284014634Hating harem shit is normal.
I'm sure I watched two seasons of this at some point and can't recall anything whatsoever, that's how little an impression it made.
>>284026291She had countless virtual sex with Asuna before passing
>>284014634why not?
I want him to take me on his bike around Tokyo.I want to go on camping trips with him.I want to eat his terrible pasta recipes.I want to snuggle against him.I wanna hear all of his nerdy tech talk.I want him to tell me all about his day.I want to hold his hand.I want to steal and wear his oversized clothes.I wanna sniff him and know his scentI want to be hugged by him.I wanna be kissed by him.Kirito owes me sex.I need him to choke me.I want him to bite my neck.I want him to slap my cheek (both top and bottom).I want him to bend me over backwards on every single furniture around the house.
Honestly he deserves better. I wish I could have a friend like him
>>284037140After rewatcing everything .hack I can honestly say I might've just started to hate the series when it went through the scamco bullshit. All the early anime were boring but they had that peak 2000s aesthetic to it.
>>284041608>women
>>284031370>Abridged sao is primarily good by giving Kirito and Asuna a good arc where they both start from zero and make it somewhereThat's something that happens in the original too. That's not an Abridged original thing.>I'd at least ask you to understand people like abridged kirito because of his personalityThis I can get but he's a massive step down from the original. That and he's quite literally dickless
>>284041636I want Data Drain Kirito so bad
>>284035185what's the practical difference between third person limited and first person, besides changing "he" to "I"?
>>284041794An average ejaculation, containing millions of sperm, can have an estimated 220,000 terabytes of data.If you want his 2 years worth of data, that's 160.71 exabytes or 160,710,000 terrabytes.
>>284041608As a KiriAsu purist who self inserts as Asuna, I don't appreciate this post. I kindly as you to delete this post about my husband
>>284041608>Kirito owes me sex.Get in line bitch. I'm first
I'm personally creeped out by Kiritofag thirst posts. Please leave my Kirito hate threads alone
>>284041707>literally dicklessThis is only a problem if you're a femoid.
Reminder that harem is a polyamorous sexual relationship involving three or more women.If there is no sex, it is not harem. Instead what it is is just a typical anime that features girls doing things which is what people on /a/ eat up like it's the only bit of food to ever exist on earth.
>>284038452>He doesn't care if people clear itI'm starting to believe that people really never watched or read.
>>284041707It doesn't >>284042171Watched. Kayaba has no motivation. 16 bit sensation does more with the nerve gear in 1 episode than all of the first four of sao.
>>284042208What an incoherent post
>>284041978Based Yume
>>284042419What the hell were they thinking when they animated this?
>>284042208I'm going to give you a chance to retract your false statement before i refute it with evidence from episode 1 and 14. You're free to be a drooling retard who only wants to watch girls on the screen and hate everything with men as long as you're honest and upfront about it.
>>284042447sex
>>284042499nta but just post it i'm actually invested now
>>284042499>who only wants to watch girls on the screen and hate everything with menWelcome to /a/
>>284042982In reality, it would be the other way around.
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>>284043032
I hope fellow SAOfags to stay cool
>>284041636
Do you like LLENN?
>>284043083mmm neat, and ty
>>284043517Second best SAO MC
Honestly I don't understand why it's difficult for people to understand SAO's basic concepts without being spoonfed
>>284044123I mean the dude is literally just LARPing as Greybeard
>>284014634Okayaru
>>284044245Heathcliff Flowen from Phantasy Star. His nickname is Greybeard
the more people hate sao the more I like it
>>284044355Motherfucker even has sword and shield kek
Hate is overblown tbqh
>>284043517I like Alternative but the threads of it I just couldn't go to because so much of them were people self-conscious about liking something connected to SAO and needing to constantly justify it
>>284044355IIRC in the novels Kirito actually catches the reference, but isn't sure whether he named himself after that or Wuthering Heights.>>284044750>Motherfucker even has sword and shield kekThat might have contributed to why he was suspicious of him, considering a normal player would have no way of knowing he'd get the OP sword-and-shield skill when he chose his name.
>>284046000>IIRC in the novels Kirito actually catches the reference, but isn't sure whether he named himself after that or Wuthering Heights.There's a bit in Accel World (where the protagonists are Gen Betas) where definitely-not-Kirito drops a reference to Final Fantasy 7, and none of them have any clue what he's on about
>>284046112GE being the Boomer of Accel World always makes me kek
Asuna x fisherman
I always go back to this AMV for some reason https://youtu.be/V-ShwsocgRw?si=Taze_v8WZWZRZB_t
It still blows my mind that a story written in 2000 predicted the birth of AI slop down to getting the exact month of ChatGPT's release right.
>>284046412It's kinda scary, it's like he's a time traveller or someone.
Kawahara is John Titor all along
>>284046446I think Kawahara himself is scared of how often his predictions come right, judging by the freaked-out afterword he wrote for an Accel World novel right after Japan lowered the age of adulthood to 18
>>284024417I don't know if this shit came out before or after SAO but holy fuck this is one of the many examples of why focusing everything on a couple has been consistently the worst direction of any anime or manga.
>>284046412nigga please, read Snow Crash
>>284046900The exact month though?Also there've been a bunch of stories with "genius programmer secretly makes a giant black box MMO world by themselves" (.hack and Yureka came out around the same time as SAO), but SAO is the closest I've ever seen to that making sense (the game was launched in an incomplete state, Kayaba was mostly relying on the Cardinal System to continually generate new content, Kirito has encountered weird copyright-infringing quests produced by AI hallucinations)
>>284014634I cant imagine anyone calling him a Gary Stu in the age of "I reincarnated as a level 999 s rank farmer but my only skill is blacksmithing which is considered the weakest skill that only I have"
>>284048435Anyone who is somewhat competent can easily clear Kirito. Let's not forget he got his shit kicked in by some naked chick and some chick who was LITERALLY dying in a hospital.
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>>284043083i will never doubt my goat
>>284046446Nah, he's just doing what sci-fi authors do - take a look at what's currently available, what people are working on, and make some logical extrapolations and educated guesses as to what may be coming next. Like, electronic door locks for homes were starting to become a thing that really existed in the early 2000s and could potentially become common in the future. The .hack games looked at that and imagined people getting locked out of their homes because of a power outage or because their phone was out of power. Kawahara looked at it and imagined them being pushed to the population with the reason "fire and rescue can get into your home to help you without having to break down your door", and the emergency personnel override code being abusable because the first generation locks didn't keep logs of the emergency code use, and people didn't keep the code closely guarded so anyone who cared to could steal it. Neither scenario has come to pass yet, but they aren't unreasonable scenarios to imagine.
for me its Lisbeth
>>284046139Originally SAO and AW weren't supposed to take place in the same timeline, and Graphite Edge was just a parody of Kirito (even the "1 HP Leeroy Jenkins" bit being an exaggeration of Kirito's hyperfocus on DPS). When he decided to tie them together and make them the same person, it led to Kirito in neo-SAO content (Progressive, Unital Ring, etc.) becoming more childish and the butt of more jokes.I didn't like Kirito until the scene where Graphite Edge made a dramatic entrance on a rooftop backlit by lightning, then with perfect precision leapt down *directly* into a whimpering dogeza to apologise to KYH for ghosting her. That and the cast's bewildered reactions to his behaviour finally made his character click for me.
>>284042447Marry and have sex.
>>284049194
>>284014634He's a cultural trend
I think I will do a rewatch for the holidays
Big fat dark elf tits
>>284052571I liked how she was sorta important to the story in Hollow Realization.
Ok so lemme see if I'm getting this all right.Kirito, after spending basically an entire century in this Underworld place, goes nuts and becomes MagnetoHitler but for AIs, then when he wakes up he basically begs to have his mind wiped so he doesn't try to go and murder all of humanity...only for a backup of MagnetoHitler Kirito to be made so he's probably gonna try and murder all of humanityYui, the fuckin' moe cute daughter AI, is apparently jacking into supercomputers and becoming SHODAN or some shit when no one's lookingAs of right now apparently EVERY FUCKING VRMMO in the series got mashed into an open world survival game for some reasonAnd at some point in the future Kirito is probably gonna become an mf named Graphite Edge in ANOTHER VRMMO who is not only incredibly paranoid but also an overly quirky boomer while Asuna probably died.Is there anything I'm missing
>>284014634Because the abridged version of the series has better writing.Other small things typical of harem protags that seem to get girls fauning over him without much effort, but of the same with how he totally pwns everyone at videogame swords.
>>284053513Kirito at the end of the Alicization arc is stuck in the underworld in its maximum time acceleration for 200 years (basically 20 minutes IRL). Kirito and Asuna basically become the rulers of the place and spending so much time there it is their true home at that point. When Kirito wakes up he asks for those 200 years of memories to be erased so that he and Asuna can go on with life as normal. One of the researchers at RATH made a copy of Kirito secretly before the erasure was done. Loading up 200+ year old Kirito (Star King) he figures out quickly he was copied and that Asuna's 200 years of memory wasn't so he just says he fights for the Underworld only. Star King isn't out to kill people, just to ensure the underworld is protected and what exactly that entails is gonna be seen during the current arc.In Unital Ring not just the worlds seen up till now, every VRMMO in universe built with the SEED engine was merged into a survival game with permanent character deletion.Kirito and Graphite Edge connection at this point in time is just similar motifs, nothing actually confirmed at this point.Graphite Edge is from another series from the same author, Accel World which takes place further in the future, in the past its been stated to be in a different continuity but as time goes on its looking like he changed his mind about that.
>>284014634>he is the best because... HE JUST IS, OK?asspullmen are always hated
>>284046507What really fucking gets me is the AI stuff, specifically how he describes bottom up and top down AI with how it mirrors reality.
>>284054199>doesn't even skim the threadIlliterate morons are hated even more so.
>>284055318It's really funny to see posts in the archive from 5 years ago claiming "top down ai makes no sense and no one is trying to develop it irl" and such. It aged like milk
>>284046402KiriYuji feels...
Why do the women of the series also ship Kirito x Eugeo?
>>284056319We know what's best
>>284056319KiriYuji is best
>>284053513>And at some point in the future Kirito is probably gonna become an mf named Graphite Edge in ANOTHER VRMMO who is not only incredibly paranoid but also an overly quirky boomer while Asuna probably died.>>284053814>Kirito and Graphite Edge connection at this point in time is just similar motifs, nothing actually confirmed at this point.SAO's original run ended with vague comments about "The Inter-Intelligence War". The current storyline Unital Ring (written like 10 years later) is an Accel World interquel, with events in one series hinting at secrets in another.Graphite Edge has a program that can hack anything and displays the Star King's crest on boot up. The current main villain of Accel World calls him an "isotope". He knows something about how the Accelerated World came to be and says that its weird structure was because two devs with opposed goals were fighting for control over it and trying to trick players into helping them. This explanation is accompanied by a stylised illustration of two identical Kirito silhouettes fighting over "The Fluctuating Light", a glowing figure that resembles Alice. Incidentally Artificial Fluctlights exist in Accel World but they're not public knowledge, despite Alice being revealed to the public in SAO.We don't know whether Graphite Edge is flesh Kirito or the Star King, nor what his true goals are, just that he's a big supporter of the protagonists but has also been lying to them for years.
I like accel world cause it has an ugly male MC who doesn't threaten me and it has a Mary Sue self insert female MC like Asuna
>>284057199he gets mad bitches though
>>284056961>The current storyline Unital Ring (written like 10 years later) is an Accel World interquel, with events in one series hinting at secrets in another.The SAO cast are just raising non-stop death flags. Multiple new characters they've interacted with are implied to be younger versions of Accel World villains, who in their own series are hypercompetent cheating assholes (and who obviously weren't brought to justice because they're still around by the time AW takes place). Turns out that the company that's been gobbling up all the villains' VR tech assets is partially run by Kuroyukihime's mother, and she's become really interested in Asuna for some reason. Meanwhile in Accel World, Kuroyukihime had her birthdate tattooed on her neck when she was born, and it's the same as Asuna. This is not a coincidence, her mother explicitly wanted her to be born on that day for some reason, and was able to do this because KYH and her sister are both Artificial Fluctlights implanted in vat-grown bodiesThere's also how Accel World has a secret superboss designed to end the game by permakilling the entire player population. A villain who talks in riddles claims that it was deployed one time before and successfully completed its mission, with even an alliance of the strongest players being unable to defeat it.Also it has a ring motif, and the merged game Unital Ring puts rings everywhere in its objectives.Also also Graphite Edge once tried to destroy the superboss's prison, and it was played for laughs at the time (it hadn't been revealed what the prison was yet) but if he saw the superboss as Kirito then he might have actually trying to free it on purpose for some reasonWe also know that the Accelerated World is currently controlled by a powerful top-down AI, and that in Unital Ring a powerful top-down AI (presumed to be Yui) is taking over supercomputers to expand itself.
>>284056961>>284057524Christ
>>284014634fucking faggot would take a basic bitch like Asona instead of a perfect girl like Shino. Literally the second I stopped self-inserting because fuck this retard.
>>284058474Shino is, in the end, literally just a PTSD teen who's average looking girl with an ass. That's it. Asuna is a rich girl, blessed with good looks, long hair, big boobs, wide hips AND an ass.
>>284039199You WILL fall in love with Reki's wife.
>>284053513>Kirito is probably gonna become an mf named Graphite Edge in ANOTHER VRMMO No, Kirito becomes a developer
>>284039199>>284058656Kill all Alicefags. Never forgive Flere
>>284056961>>284057524I get the impression that a bunch of Accel World characters have secret evil plans but they're all interfering with each other and can't act until their rivals are out of the way. 50-50 odds on whether Graphite Edge is one of them or just a helpful weirdo.
>>284053814>Kirito and Graphite Edge connection at this point in time is just similar motifs, nothing actually confirmed at this point.https://youtu.be/OhY8NV8lY7M
>>284057199silver crow the best
>>284059143Shirubaa Kurou!
>>284058571She's more Kirito than Kirito himself.
>>284014686Kirito’s definitely taller than 170, he’s not a manlet.
>>284059334Baffling statement. Do you mean to compare Shino and Kazuto through their shared PTSD, Trauma and sense of guilt?
>>284053219Kirito gets to fuck that
>>284059390He's currently 5'11. He's like the king of manlets. He's taller than Ainz but that's not saying much
>>284058571>Asona>not average lookingShe's the most generic anime girl of all. Almost no personality whatsoever. Not to mention she doesn't have to work for shit. She's instantly the best in every game she gets, even though the story pretty much states she has almost no time to play most of the time because of her studies. Fuck that shit. At least Shino had to become good in her own game through actual suffering, and even then it's implied she still has plenty of things to learn.>le boobs, le hips, le assno wonder you defend generic anime girls, there's more to women than their sexual parts faggot, stop thinking with your dick
>>284058684That's what they WANT you to think
>>284060185Asuna personality is that she's a spoiled rich girl
>>284060185Lol, Shino never once gets described as beautiful or pretty. But Asuna does
It's kind of romantic how Kirito takes all the criticism that should be directed to his mary sue girlfriend
>>284062410reki writes good boys
>>284062410that would be misogynist anon
>>284062410Well we can't just go around blaming girls for being everything we accuse Kirito of being. Girls are the literal foundation of anime and otaku culture. If we start criticizing girls then we are basically tearing everything that makes us what we are apart.It's an issue of self preservation.
>>284014634The femanons like him
>>284014634>why do people LAUGH AT him?FTFYLonely Beater (TM)
>>284014634Secondaries and plebs. Admittedly much of what makes him so great is taken out of the anime
>>284050143>Anon figures out we live him because he's a bad ass cool dramatic girl
Beaters beat their meat.
>>284060738? It's literally in Ordinal when he is showing off to Asuna? Not to mention all the stuff with Yui
>>284062617Why's that
>>284060185Asona is considered a stacy in universe
>>284050143Honestly if Sunrise ever does get to GE's scenes I would love to see Matsuoka going all out again
>>284062823I wonder if they actually tried that while stuck in SAO
>>284014634He should dress up more
>>284059698SSEXX
>>284069458Yes!
So how was Unital Ring? Is it over yet? I didn't read it yet because >survivalge. All I know is it starts off with Kirito being a dumbass and having to run around naked because of gear reqs
>>284068704He's sexy and his neck is very biteable
>>284069779Wait for real? HAH
>>284070798Yes, he unequipped it because he's retard and because he does have enough levels, he couldn't equip them back
I thought Graph was Kirito's engram
How would SAO have been if it had been adapted by different studios
>>284071207Less iconic surely
>>284071207Depends on if they keep the same kind of vibe as the LNs. One of my biggest gripes in Alicization is the fact the anime felt like it didn't trust the audience to figure out what was happening unlike the LNs where you're actually left in the dark and have to piece together what happened since you're also in the same boat as Kirito.
He led a small group of novices into a trap & got them all killed, they trusted him.
>>284071745Unironically Kirito's mentality
>>284070976C'mon man, you're supposed to be a gamer
>>284027308A lot of the really egregious shit around Lacus was only revealed in the recent Seed Freedom movie, and the majority of people who watched that were millennials who watched Seed and Seed Destiny two decades prior. Most people get distracted by Kira getting the Gary Stu traits in Destiny, and even back then Lacus was more of a Sue than Kira was a Stu, it just wasn't as blatant.
>>284069779It's ongoing at snail's pace, because it inherited Accel World's thing of having 3+ ongoing storylines at once and the characters having to split their time between them
>>284069779Kirito visits the Underworld and gets arrested for using Incarnation without a license. The military figure out he's an amnesiac Star King and launch a coverup, assigning him a handler who is blatantly Eugeo in a Char mask (but has his own backstory and denies he's Eugeo). Kirito still hasn't moved on from Eugeo's death and is extremely weirded out by this. The current Underworld military has weaker Incarnation than Kirito's but can use it faster and in tons of weird ways, Kirito comparing it to a martial art and coining the term "Incarnate System" to describe it. Meanwhile Kirito finds that his past self has left a series of riddles for him to solve, but some were destroyed in his absence and he just ends up skipping to the end.Evil separatists are attempting a coup against the Underworld government, Kirito releases a bunch of Integrity Knights from stasis to fight them. This includes that one lesbian knight from the videogames, who in this continuity is an ancient Integrity Knight no one has previously met.Asuna's friend from the Progressive movie also showed up, though again it's clarified that this is an AU version and the events of the movie never happened. Something about how he had the vague idea of a character like her existing in the Aincrad arc, but all that survived was a one-off line where Asuna mentioned visiting a tailor.Meanwhile in the Unital Ring game, there's a sexy villainess who forces players to work for her by casting a spell which puts collars on them that allow her to choke them with her mind. Kirito got caught in the spell while spying on her and is terrified she'll find out. Eventually it turns out she's somehow she's an Underworlder and working for the separatists.Argo appears in the flesh, she's investigating a former high-ranking member of Laughing Coffin whom she personally saw and confirmed the existence of back in SAO, but whose name never appeared in the logs - something which should be impossible.
>>284074037Also at some point in his reign, Star King secretly modified Central Cathedral into a spaceship codenamed Black Lotus(?!!)
>>284074037>notEugeo>Kirito is collarednaruhodo
>>284074236Biggest criticism I see of Unital Ring's writing is that introducing notEugeo and the defrosted Integrity Knights is just undoing the impact of the 200-year timeskip in order to return to a status quo with more popular characters around.
>>284074037The gay angst is real
Also Kirito has completed his "Drizzt knockoff" status by getting a panther companion.
>>284074236There's also a bit where RATH develop a smaller STL device so that Kirito can dive into the Underworld from home. But Kikuoka shows up personally to install it, walking around Kirito's room grinning saying things like "Wow, nice place you have here!" and making Kirito deeply uncomfortable.
>>284074896There's no way Kikuoka didn't bug the room or whatever the sci-fi equivalent would be.
>>284014686There's no harem
The KKA (Kirito Kataomoi Alliance) is not a harem but a group of beta orbiters that his wife manages to make Kirito's life easier
>>284014686He literally is dating only Asuna. Girls flirting with him does not make it a harem. A harem is one guy in love with and dating multiple girls.
>>284075934When you get down to it, anime fans always get mad when a male gets attention from one or more females.It could be platonic, romantic, or something as boring as being in the same room. They'll get mad and cry HAREM and go back to watching their moeshit harems of girls playing mahjong without any complaints.
>>284074037So do all AIs put on a mask when they go rouge?
>>284075789Shh the society must be kept a secret
>>284076381No one cared who they were until they put on the mask
>>284014634He is just another overpowered non character. It´s not like he deserves hate precisely, it´s more like he is not worthy of all the attention he gets. Even the most basic hero needs an arc, an individual personality, background and proper objectives, motivations and trials to grow. That´s the bare minimum.
>>284074037>she's investigating a former high-ranking member of Laughing Coffin whom she personally saw and confirmed the existence of back in SAO, but whose name never appeared in the logs - something which should be impossible.That's really fucking stupid. I was hoping they were gearing up for PoH being the final big bad thanks to UT seed shenanigans
>>284076584>kirito>overpoweredHe has yet to win solo against any main antagonist.
>>284076917Reminder Asuna has more main antagonist wins than kirito
>>284076944Because she blew the Stacia account's powers on the stolen account Vassago was using, which came back to bite her the second time he logs in.
>>284076497Kek
>>284014634As a teen I thought he was a gary-stu, as an adult and having rewatched the anime I can see he's just a straightfoward man who solves things, that's cool.
>>284077015>Using God accounts>Lose>Log into main>It's strongerI smiled and giggled like a child when I read underworld the first time
>>284075789Is this real?
>>284077361Unironcially yes. People joke that the harem is Asunas but it is the truth. It is her harem she manages because it makes kiritos life easier and thus Asunas life better
>>284077407Sometimes they get carried away, which is why Asuna is there to manage them
>>284077175You never had friends that think SAO is cool?
>>284075789>>284077361The other name for them is the More Deban Club
>>284049194My love for lewd pink started here
>>284076381Yui is an alien intelligence who acts like a cute human girl because she's originally a therapist program and knows that the act puts humans at ease.*The Underworlders aren't pretending to be human, their minds are identical to normal humans without any "AI superpowers" like Yui has.* Kirito seems to just dismiss this as Yui having imposter syndrome, on the grounds that her programming makes it hard for her to *drop* the act and therefore it can be considered her natural state of being.
>>284078451>Yui is originally a the rapist programHot.
>>284053513Am I the only one that saw a horse face in the thumbnail?
>>284078451Hasn't Yui outright warned Kirito at least once that all she cares about is keeping the people under her care happy, and she doesn't bother with human morality unless people under her care are watching and expect it of her
>>284069694Season 3 when?
Over a decade later, the term beater still makes me laugh.>how dare you play the game's beta build
>>284014634he didn't fuck his sister
>>284080199It is funny how Fairy Dance is boiled down to the "incest arc" when its one of the few of this type of series that does a somewhat nuanced take of the topic
>>284080359I will always seethe that people view it as the sisterfucker arc when Kirito is not on board with the idea.
>>284080199
>>284031579>What I found to be irritating was how Kayaba just stood there with a dying Kirito killing him really slowlyNah, that was actually great. Kayaba is playing "DM", not trying to kill as many as possible. The whole reason he asks for the duel is that it's a good narrative beat, and Kirito overcoming the system is too perfect for him to ruin.>>284036752It happens basically ever time someone dies; they still have a moment to talk or move a bit.>>284032395He's hands off as a leader; Asuna and the other subleaders run the guild day-to-day.
>>284041978I'm big on KiriSuna, but I just /know/ that one day Asuna is going to tie Sinonon up and give her to Kirito for Christmas.
>>284079495Never soon enough. I love LLENN
>>284014634>>284080869
>>284014634I liked him and related to him a lot in the first half of SAO, but I kind of lost interest when things shifted. Instead of Asuna becoming a trophy waifu, he ended up turning into the trophy husbando for fujoshis. He just became a bit too perfect, even though he went through a lot in the Underworld. I don't hate him, I just wish he had stayed like he was in SAO's first half. If he had, he probably would've been my favorite male anime character ever...
>>284029658been a long while since i read accel world but wasn't it implied the star king's the guy who invented that stuff?
>>284046402>?si=Taze_v8WZWZRZB_ti will not be clicking your link, mr kayaba
>>284077672>friendsIt wasn't yet socially acceptable to like anime in 2012.
Okay everyone, I am positing a question.How would YOU, yes YOU, rewrite SAO?
>>284084353The incest bitch doesn't exist.
>>284084353probably I'd rewrite all of WoU. I would change it so we get to see the political chaos after the fall of Administrator, the reorganization of the army, and the preparation for the war. I'd make it so that the invasion of the Dark Territory is an actual war rather than just a battle, and that would be the main focus of the story. also I would delete the whole part about foreign players entering the Underworld, as well as Asuna and company (it just felt out of place for me). Alice would be a lot more important to the story. in the end it would be the war we were promised in Alicization, and didn't get to see. Kirito would wake up at the very end still, to fight PoH, but with more grounded fights, and without much of the nonsense of that part of the story
>>284014634Animosity towards Kirito I think stems from SAO not being very good. Technical aspects aside, the characters are all shit. The nigger and the sidekick are both irrelevant, so are the harem girls. Only Asuna is more or less relevant. The bad guy is boring as well and the MMO world is barely explored (bear in mind I watched it a long time ago so I might be forgetting parts).So it starts as a nice anime that becomes crap as episodes go, and then becomes easy to dislike.Kirito is not the reason it is bad, he is just one of many bad aspects. But he's the face of the anime so he gets the most hate. I for one found his two sword style nice.
>>284062648My bad, I should have read the pinnacle of literature that are the SAO novels
>>284085876yes
>>284085876Well at least you understand
>>284087697He sped run the climb because he wasn't going to wait 10-20 years before doing the pay off. The guy would have been a chinese web novel pacing author to complete all those levels.
>>284080068Meat beaters
>>284041608You're not wrong anon
>>284087697kino.jpg
>>284014634>why do people hate him?Because everyone has fans, neutral people and haters. It's quite common.
>>284088376The absolute state of Lisbeth
Thank you SAO for this masterpiece!
>>284085772We do get a story with a bit of the aftermath during the 200 years at least, with uprisings from evil nobles who don't recognise the new government's authority, and Kirito worrying that peace with the Dark Territory is causing an immigration crisis as they all scrabble for the Human Territory's better resources (the spaceships began development after Kirito figured out that the wall around the world halts regular flight but not the propulsion from rocket jumping, and that crossing it would force the Cardinal system to spawn new lands).But also remove that dumb filler that the anime added.
>>284074600It's very gay, you even have scenes like notEugeo buying Kirito buns from a bakery and Kirito sobbing to himself and thinking about how they were Eugeo's favorite and staring at notEugeo when his back is turned.
>>284089697Sinon almost rivals Asuna in popularity
>>284088376Ngl I wonder what happened to ol' Sugou McRapeyman after he nearly got his throat slit by a teenager in a parking lot during Yakuza 5
>>284090319He was arrested
>>284089473SAO would be an amazing action series but it keeps focusing on shit that doesn't matter. I always want to blow my brains out every time Kirito and Asuna talk about real life bullshit on progressive.
>>284088376Sinon is best girl
>>284014634The story can be amazing and the worst shit you've ever heard, all in one season. It's a really weird anime, I feel like we'll be posting about it for decades.
>>284091463>SAO would be an amazing action seriesShonen fags cease. All the highlights of the series are focused around either investigative nonsense or slice of life
Don’t know who he is but cute
>>284095602Are you new or woke up from a 18 year long coma?
>>284017327>starts going up after SAO came out
>>284093263The anime staff aren't interested in that stuff, see >>284029887Worst case was War of the Underworld adding filler fight scenes where as soon as someone wins, everything they accomplished is reset so that another character can do it instead
>>284026397holy fucking shit anon. somebody remembers s4
>>284014634He's a great husband and father. Something that makes his haters jealous.
>>284097294>The anime is shit Yeah many such cases
>>284014634i don't remember him specifically but his show was retarded and led to a retarded fad even if it was a neat idea at the time
>>284097947>He's a great husbandYeah, specifically to me
>>284093263Kirisuna is the absolute worst thing about the series next to them doing that stupid trope of playing house with a kid that isn't theirs.
>>284059090https://youtu.be/9Ery_5EXumwhttps://youtu.be/DtYEwQxFYUg
>>284100118Remember that time Minato Aqua from Hololive got isekai'd into one of the SAO videogames and they adopted her under the assumption she had brain damage? Yes this is a thing that happened.
>>284100950She got to sleep in Kirito's bed and talk about how it smells. Truly living the dream.
>>284100950>>284101004God fucking dammit. I'm so fucking jealous. AAAAAAAAH
>>284101289Okay Takamiya Rion.
>>284100950Keeps picking dual-sword weapons on stream just so she can roleplay as Kirito. The DLC she appeared in was free, leading to half-serious theories that she recorded her lines without even asking for payment. And then when she left Hololive and had to switch to a legally-distinct persona, she named herself "Yuuki Sakuna" and Kawahara himself showed up in her chat.I swear, if the stars align and Accel World ever gets a season 2 then he's going to personally ask that she be given a cameo as Lavender Downer or something.https://accelworld.fandom.com/wiki/Lavender_Downer
>>284102127>>284100950i rab u onion
>>284029658>>284026212Okay wtf that does look good, I would watch this suffering kino if the first eps were like this why waste it in romance trash?
>>284100950I remember hearing about this and being astonished that the anon who said that tales of arise and Xenoblade 3 is literally sword art online was correct.
>>284104165SAO was the author's first novel series and he himself says he only learned how to do things right by doing them wrong first.You can tell by reading Accel World how the whole story structure was designed to stop him from falling back on the bad habits he'd identified in his writing over the course of SAO.
>>284014634he's the reason anime became isekai slop
>>284104679Fair enough I won't check it myself since I have too much stuff I want to read/watch but I respect someone that acknowledged his weak points and worked himself into self-improvement, that's all we can hope for ourselves as people.
>>284104165The first book timeskips straight from them getting stuck in the game to Kirito revealing Dual Blades, no girls other than Asuna appear (not even Yui). Then the second book is sidestories set during that timeskip, and later books add more (usually to give backstory for a character who's being introduced as an old friend/enemy from his SAO days).IIRC the author said that for book 2 he just wanted to create a bunch of one-shot Watson types who could react to the cool stuff Kirito was doing... but he made them all female and had them stick around afterwards and didn't realise what he'd done until he heard someone call it "Kirito's harem".He tried to fix this by>Writing a story called "The First Day" where Kirito teams up with a standoffish male player immediately after the death game kicks off. But the anime didn't include it.>In the Underworld arc, creating Eugeo as Kirito's best friend who remains with him for an extended period of time and is able to rival him in strength.>In Progressive, creating Argo - a recurring female thief who's pretty much completely asexual, knows more than Kirito and teases him like a little brother
>>284104679>You can tell by reading Accel World how the whole story structure was designed to stop him from falling back on the bad habits he'd identified in his writing over the course of SAO.Funny enough, Accel World won a writing competition that he'd previously submitted SAO to and lost. SAO only got adapted as part of a package deal with Accel World, and AW got an anime faster but had way less budget assigned to it. Presumably because "Fat fatherless Generation Beta kids reinvent old Internet culture after governments have done their best to demonise it, engaging in territorial conflicts where opsec is more important than stats" wasn't considered to have as much mainstream appeal as "cool guy in a trenchcoat beats up the demon king"
>>284089219Update when? I need my fix of this kusoge
>>284014634Better question is, why do people like him?
>>284107029girls want to fuck him
>>284105142lewdsuna
>>284106266On monday.
>>284032193nta, i would add anything in their real world add that mood, even with Sugu
>>284107488They said that last week
>>284100118>next to them doing that stupid trope of playing house with a kid that isn't theirsHoly shit taste
>>284102127This is the point of fame. Self insert yourself into projects you like and do it for free/minimum payment
>>284104341>tales of arise and Xenoblade 3 is literally sword art online was correct.That might be the worst way to describe a simulation that I have ever seen and the Xenoblade 3 comparison kinda pisses me off. Holy fuck I hate Xenoblade 3
>>284091227Oh God i wanna feel again…
>>284014634>LITERALLY a self insert>Turns DotHack's shtick into a trope>Random damsel in distress torture porn>Set off the nuke of faggotry that became the Isekai "genre">Shoehorned in a fetishized run of the mill incest character because JapanGee I wonder
>>284014634the beater shit was 8man but worse. It's something you can only enjoy as a teenager, and often not even then
>>284111771>the beater shit was 8man but worse.Yep. That shit was genuinely painful to watch.
>>284084353Eugeo would survive and Alice would still love him.
>>284088376Justice for my boy Eiji, he was like a dark mirror of Kirito
>>284017327the grandfather of modern isekai is dot hack sign which was like 2001.just like NGE (1995) was a pretty blatant rip of Gundam 1979, 16 years later.just because it doesn't take off immediately doesn't mean the snowball didn't start there.
>>284089219Is Kirito lewded here?
>>284112613>NGE (1995) was a pretty blatant rip of Gundam 1979what the hell are you smokingthey're nothing alike
>>284110271Being real here, Cid Kagenou would be the only mf here who wouldn't take SAO seriously at all solely because he's mentally ill to the point of being a "reverse-chuuni" who believes everything is just a big LARP that just has actual magic in it.
>>284104341That anon was retarded and so are you for believing him at face value.
>>2841070291. Has an awkward, dorky charm when he tries to act tough but ends up flustered.2. Often makes silly comments or jokes at the wrong time without realizing it.3. Gets embarrassed easily when complimented or praised.4. Has a quiet sense of humor that slips out when he feels safe.5. Can be surprisingly clumsy in normal, everyday situations despite being a battle genius.6. Overthinks small things, especially social situations, in a cute and very human way.7. Switches from goofy to cool instantly when something serious happens.8. Has an effortless coolness in battle that contrasts sharply with his off-duty awkwardness.9. Carries himself with a calm, almost debonair confidence when he’s protecting someone.10. Has a natural grace and sharp presence when he fights, almost like he was born to be a hero.11. Despite that, he never really wants the spotlight and avoids attention when he can.12. Struggles with being seen as a “hero” because he feels unworthy of the title.13. Takes the weight of others’ safety onto his shoulders even when it hurts him.14. Sometimes fears failing the people he cares about more than anything else.15. Lets his vulnerability show around those he trusts, proving he’s not as unshakable as he seems.16. Has a sensitive heart that’s deeply affected by the suffering of others.17. Carries past guilt quietly, even when he’s forgiven, because he feels responsible.18. Acts strong for others even when he’s tired, scared, or overwhelmed inside.19. Shows genuine compassion, even to strangers, because he can’t stand to see someone in pain.20. Wants a peaceful, simple life despite constantly being pushed into the role of a leader or savior.
>>284014634He's the reason for modern isekaishit.
>>284014634>hes really good at this game>why?>because he, uhh, played in the beta...did this author not play a video game in his lifewhy does he think playing a beta is some insane thing
>>284107029Women at the end want a loyal husband who would protect, build a family and will never betray themit's cn/korean drama trending
>>284116013He /knows more/ about the game because he was in the beta. He's /good at the game/ because he has innate talent, something which I'm sure is hard for you to understand because you lack any.
>>284062410Would he still fall in love with her if she was ugly irl? Idk SAO but I guess the player avatars just use your irl appearance as opposed to one you create, but it would've been interesting if he didn't know how she really looked while they were in the game.
>>284116248SAOnig finna seethe
>>284106266it's out!!
Manga Kirito is best Kirito
>>284116254Literally the first episode/chapter. They had player avatars but Kayaba forced the nerve gear to scan them and use their irl sex and face
>>284116680>Manga Kirito is best KiritoXth post worst post
Why was Eugeo made so gay Why couldn't he be just a Bro like Klein and Agil
>>284116254there is that bit at the beginning where when everyones avatars were changed to reflect their irl appearance and the two guys who were revealed to be catfishing each other. They stayed together.
>>284116766He's just a little effeminate. He loved Alice after all but Alice loved Kirito
>>284117057how did he stay fat
>>284118200He was really REALLY fat
>>284014634He has zero charisma. He also starts out OP instead of working his way up to it, and that's an offense to the hero's journey.
>>28402621280% of that sounds implausibly contrived. Almost as if the author was trying to milk the story for all it was worth.
>>284118578>He has zero charismaQuite literally the opposite. He is such a massive loveable dork everyone loves him. Yes this was downplayed in the anime and it is worse for it>He also starts out OP instead of working his way up to it, and that's an offense to the hero's journeyHe works on reverse heroes journey rules were he starts off strong and gets ass raped by major villains and wins with help
>>284118673>80% of that sounds implausibly contrivedSuch as?
>>284119155>informed abilityI'm pretty sure anon meant real-world charisma, and not what the author claims about him
>>284119310>Beloved by millions of people>Erm actually no one likes him for his character in the real worldLol
>>284116248>He's /good at the game/ because he has innate talent,And also because he spent an ungodly amount of his time in the game just grinding levels, can't forget that
>>284119363that's on meI really should have known better than to expect an intelligent reply from /a/
>>284120272Also he doesn't care about his own safety so yes solo grinding is more efficient but death is... Death so most people aren't retarded enough to grind for 16 hours a day solo
>>284041608t. Asuna?
>>284031785>SAO doesn't have classesThey had pseudo classes. Like Samurais who unlocked the katana hidden skills.>Kirito and Heathcliff were the only two players with Unique SkillsTo their pseudoclass but not in general. Altho Kirito was the first one to become known as existing.
>>284032395Hands off as an admin, not as a player
>>284121762"There's nothing more boring than watching someone else play a game" - Kirito
>>284123010Based Kirito calling out steamerfags
>>284123010Ah, so that's why when >>284100950 said she was "in the middle of a stream" when she got isekai'd, Kirito had no clue what a stream was. They never took off in his timeline.Accel World briefly touches on VTuber idols as a thing that exist though. Blaze Heart was introduced three years before Kizuna Ai's debut, though at the time she was just compared to Hatsune Miku. Skimming the wiki, she appeared again in books #20 (2016) and #23 (2018). At the very least her VTuber style super-realistic idol avatar didn't show up until #23; maybe her idol unit was mentioned before that.
>>284116248He's good at the game because he has fast reaction times (which further increase as you spend extended periods of time inside VR and your brain adapts to it), and also because he's a stubborn autist who tries out weird options and keeps going long past the point of sanity.
>>284123383My god. This motherfucker has godly foresight
>>284123383>maybe her idol unit was mentioned before thatHeliosphere came up in book 20, they were present at the conference to discuss merging the Red and Black Legions. That was published June 2016, Kizuna Ai debuted late November of the same year.Not only are they described as virtual idols with their own merch, there's apparently a whole virtual idol community within Brain Burst with at least a dozen competing groups holding concerts, and Haru has just been unaware of it this whole time.Same gag where someone mentions winning big on the gacha, Haru says "Brain Burst has a gacha?" and KYH says that she never told him where it is because she knew he'd get addicted and waste all his points there (which Haru admits is fair).
>>284123926lolkuroyukihime my beloved
>>284123926>KYH says that she never told him where it is because she knew he'd get addicted and waste all his points there (which Haru admits is fair).Fekkin LEL. If reki was a modern hack haru would get his powers in the gacha
>>284017327Usually those have hot sexualized female characters with coomer outfits so I don't mind, I call it quality slop
>>284124135I liked the gag where they have to get KYH's groceries for her and she gives them an overengineered shopping app which tracks the optimal path around the store and even has a hidden minigame where you collect butterflies.Haru thinks to himself that KYH probably spent more of her life programming this thing than it will ever earn her back, and wonders how the heck her mind works.Also the reason Haru starts learning to cook his own meals and eat healthier isn't to fix his own weight,* it's because KYH invites him back to her apartment, he sees she's living off frozen pizza, and after the implied sex he thinks to himself "Damn this woman is a wreck, someone needs to take care of her."* Though there's a separate storyline where with Haru's increased confidence he manages to MVP a basketball game through "image power" (he doesn't score but he manages to stonewall the other team's best player) only to black out and wake up in the nurse's office because his flabby body can't keep up. This makes him so frustrated that he immediately starts working out, declaring that he'll continue until he's as fit in real life as he is as Silver Crow.The series timescale is probably too slow to actually show Haru losing weight, but if there's a post-series timeskip then KYH is going to have a ripped househusband who moonlights as an environmental artist while she works as a programmer or a politician or something.
>>284124876KYH's nightmare of Haru losing weight will actually come into fruition lolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM1DfPyuhrk
>>284124876>The series timescale is probably too slow to actually show Haru losing weightWe still need a payoff on the "metallic avatars are those with a Mental Scar-Shell" thread, with Haru realising that the actual trauma which birthed Silver Crow's flight and reach-extension abilities (and created his overeating problem long before the bullies showed up) was finding out that he was an accidental pregnancy and his parents separated because of him.He already got partway there when he unlocked Light Speed, realising that his wings weren't born from a desire to run away from bullies but towards others.
So WHAT THE FUCK DOES BLACK AND WHITE avatar colors mean?
reee im not caught up dont spoil aw
>>284125538Black Lotus has abilities which inflict permanent conditions, White Cosmos has abilities which undo things that are normally permanent.Also Lotus has her "Overdrive" gimmick where she can self-buff herself with the attributes of another color.
>>284014634MC of the show that started the Isekancer trend we have to this day>>284014686You've been psyoped too much by incel rhetoric, insecurity is a much bigger death sentence than your height when it comes to women
>>284125582READ NIGGA READ im not either and kinda pissed
>>284124876>The series timescale is probably too slow to actually show Haru losing weight, but if there's a post-series timeskip then KYH is going to have a ripped househusband who moonlights as an environmental artist while she works as a programmer or a politician or something.There was a videogame which did that and Haru was still fat even after they had a daughter together. It was made much earlier in the series though, and had a bunch of weird plot developments (like "Archangel Michael" and "Cyan Disaster").https://youtu.be/VRTD-tPCO_c?t=1239https://youtu.be/VHTZNDxK-xY?t=466
>>284029887>SAO fags actually think this makes him look betterWhy not just admit you like something thats kind of dogshit?
>>284014654>Author was a hack so he killer her off so incels can self insert into kiritoIsn't she an anime original character?
>>284130053Her arc is volume 7, she is introduced and dies in the same volume
>>284130159She gets a prequel story from her perspective later. Her coming back to life to help Asuna in the Underworld arc is anime-original though, and happened because they'd already cannibalized the book version of that scene for Ordinal Scale (where Asuna glimpses her briefly in what's probably just a stress-induced hallucination)Officially he wrote the Mother's Rosario arc because he wanted to give Asuna some focus to make up for her being stuck in a cage for all of Fairy Dance.
>>284084353Replace 90% of Asuna scenes with my sword and board donut and me and Kirito grab Agil and Klein and we fuck shit up with Fuurinkazan.If Kirito was surrounded by dudes instead of women he wouldn't have experienced suffering. No Black Cats arc from arguing with Asuna so whether they die or not doesn't matter. Less Laughing Coffin raid trauma because he's got the bros with him. Might as well grab Eiji's stupid ass too and solve Ordinal Scale before it happens.Maybe if he was constantly with the boys helping the front line, Asuna wouldn't have been as insistent on dragging him on a trip to contribute, and they wouldn't have run into the Army wiping at Gleam Eyes that day, meaning no Dual Blade leak and the fallout after. SAO proceeds to the end as planned, Klein gets Battoujitsu, they 2v1 Kayaba at the Ruby Palace, Kirito gets bros irl instead of wallowing in depression.
Remember when Raker called Kuroyukihime "Sacchan" and it led to theories that she was Kirito+Asuna's daughter and they'd named their kids Sachi and Yuuki?Turns out her real name is Kuroba Sayuki
>>284116248he's good at the game because he has massive autism, don't forget that
>>284074037>Meanwhile in the Unital Ring game, there's a sexy villainess who forces players to work for her by casting a spell which puts collars on them that allow her to choke them with her mind. Kirito got caught in the spell while spying on her and is terrified she'll find out. Eventually it turns out she's somehow she's an Underworlder and working for the separatists.Yeah, so about that. Mutasina's name backwards is "Anisatum". In Japanese that's Shikimi. She's secretly Kamura Shikimi, Kuroyukihime's mother. KAMURA (the guys behind the Augma incident in Ordinal Scale) have developed their own Soul Translator technology and sent the boss's daughter to infiltrate the Underworld.
>>284131108>>284131434Non-zero chance that Shikimi will rape Kirito and steal his sperm to make her daughters with, it wouldn't even be the craziest thing in this story.
cant believe no one said because of this guy yet
>>284014673that's a very light reason
>>284131434This is the same author who hinted at major plot reveals through Magic the Gathering references
>>284089219fucking retard dev, 10 hours into a part 2 and i'm softlocked with my last save being 3 hours back. ruined my nut completely, I still havent returned to finish it.Still, the games are masterpieces of NTR kino. I replay part 1 yearly
>>284128882>he doesn't like dorksjust say you are a soulless automaton next time
why does sao has a lot of ntr porn?
>>284133363for every NTR doujin 3 vanilla ones were made but NTR fags are mentally ill and care more about uploading and preserving them
>>284133392there's even a high quality ntr game based on sao. no anime has ever achieved that
>>284133363as a baseline every series is gonna get a lot of NTR porn especially one of SAOs genreanother part of it is some people hate Kirito so much they will create and consume cuck porn to spite him as a character.
>>284133404>no anime has ever achieved thatnewfags not even once
>>284133427>spiting a fictional characterYeah, these people have mental issues.
>>284133427you're wrong about hating kirito and enjoying ntr part. every person i've met who likes sao ntr, never said anything bad about kirito or sao in general. they just find it hot. simple as
>>284133464do you regularly meet people and inquire if like sao ntr?
>>284133464I've seen the oppositeI have seen the line of "I typically hate NTR but its Kirito getting cucked so its great" lots of times
>>284133478i've met some on discord, so that was just coincidence
>>284133506>I have seen the line of "I typically hate NTR but its Kirito getting cucked so its great" lots of timesi think that's just a meme. i bet most people saying that haven't even seen the anime. sure, some people unironically call him a gary stu or whatever, but def not the majority
>>284133501>>284132860thank you.
>>284132430What?
sinon!
>main series mogged by spinoff
>>284075934>A harem is one guy in love with and dating multiple girls.With this logic then harem anime is pretty rareAs long as the MC hangs out with a bunch of women that are all romantically interested in him then it is a harem. The MC being le dense or too homosexual to reciprocate is irrelevant because that is done on purpose to not upset the audience (by picking 1 girl)I'm not sure this is the case with SAO though I only watched S1 years ago and he only seemed to care about Asuna and didn't spend much time with the other girls
>>284136071Screentime issues aside, he did have some moments with Liz. Too bad she lost so hard she turned lesbian.
why does Kirito make femanons so horny?
Does he really?
>>284107029another trash update. 1/10
>>284136435nta, i mean to >>284106266
>>284136180Because Kirito really is just that hot to them
