>With nano banana you can now translate redraw and typeset with a single promptWhat's the point of learning Japanese again?
Good luck asking it to work on pages with any slightest hint of fanservice or (((problematic))) themes .
>>284080098>adds random sound effects and alters existing ones>rapes scan quality in the processPut it back in the oven
>>284080810You should probably just pick up the text with OCL, put it into an LLM, then just handle the redraw part with nano banana (if needed, probably not honestly)
Translation needs a QC pass, your example is just very simple. It’s better to have the translation done outside and then ask a model to redraw. >>284080679Just use uncensored models. Z Image launched this week is nuts.
Torii translate has a good service with 5 different AI. Now with a black Friday deal of 40000 at $1.34 per 1000 images.
how do LLM's go with translating? do you give them context of the series like speakers relationships or anything like that? or do they just stumble through literal translations?
>>284080098i like japanese and want to learn it to read in the native language even if i can read it in english,thats all there is to it
>>284081056You should put in the context a dictionary of standard translations to maintain consistency (character names, main speech mannerisms and so on). Ask the LLM to make new dictionary entries as it go over new terms. With current context windows you could put thousands of names in such a way.
>>284080854Is it good with screentones? So far, all local models I tried were turning them into mush, only banana gives good results.
>>284081231yeah but can it see a face and understand it's Naruto (or whatever) speaking and then reference your context for the character?I'd be pretty impressed at that, but equally so if there's tools to tag speakers on a page or something.will be pretty neat when fan translations go away and I can translate any obscure series with a local model.
>>284080098Can you also get it to make all the girls naked but change nothing else in the drawing
>>284080098>What's the point of learning Japanese again?because you want to. isn't that enough?
>>284080098>left bottom panelwut
>>284081498You can tag characters with a bunch of tools but I don’t know open tools that do this in an easy way for translation. It gets complex fast if you want a more professional workflow.
>>284080098in the future trying to comunicate betwen two or more persons with different languajes will have to wait ai translation, so yeah ai its pointess when it comes to real life stuff
>>284081582with inpainting yeah but there's still manually selecting.but we 100% have the technology to automatically do this just no one's made it yet.
>>284080098good morning sar
>>284080098whyd it make the finger move in the bottom left
>>284080854>local shitSigh
If you don't mind relying on translations, I guess you could at some point use machine translations if they get good enough but that's irrelevant to people who actually want to learn Japanese because they care about nuances that would be lost in translation. Also I think Kanji look cool and it's fun to read them
>>284080098If it doesn't decensor loli doujin, then it's worthless.
>>284080679What
>>284080098You are trusting that they trained the model properly, and they made a through enough chechick if it works properly. You should not trust others as it gives you a false sense of security, when in reality you are only safe alone. What you are able to do is your worth, so learning is never pointless.Knowledge is its own reward, you fucking fag.
Where are you going to get your manga from? Unless the Japanese apps incorporate this as a feature you'll have to add a whole lot of extra steps.
>translates and redraws sound effects at random>mistranslates sound effects because it can't grasp the entire effect>adds sound effects where there were none beforeI'd like to see it deal with handwritten text outside of bubbles too. If anyone in here is willing to do it, try running this page through it.
>>284086451LMAO or maybe this page. I would be floored if it handled these two pages with any degree of quality.
>>284086451This is small fry. Let me provide a better example.
>>284080098It missed a bunch, added a few, and made the whole page look worse. AI a shit.>i-it'll get better!Then fuck off and come back when it is.
>>284083942local hosting is a unique benefit for our times "the 20s were the wild west for AI", you should try take advantage of it >>284086451chatgpt's translation -> typesetting attempt
>>284080098Does this manga have an uncensored version? The nicely-drawn boobs in your picture interested me, but when I went to read the raws, I found pages where nipples were blacked out.
>>284086546second attempt after I pointed out it didn't translate the isshouni part
>>284086315You haven't seen that hentai "translation" where the proompter didn't realize that half the bubbles said "I'm sorry, but I cannot assist you with that request"? Shit was so funny
>>284086546What the fuck is this. Is this a serious attempt to translate and typeset? It's not what OP is using in any case and if it is serious it's beyond awful.
>>284080098always hated the viz-style sfx translations, it completely destroys the artistic intent, please just translate it with small text at the top of the panel
>>284086500surprisingly it produced text this time, I guess specifying that the challenge was to translate handwritten text first helped. Can an anon who reads moon runes here judge the TL? I'm a dekinai.>>284086601Obviously it's not a serious attempt, try reading the post before you reply
>>284086684You don't even need to understand the text to know it's bullshit
>>284086749didn't notice it changed the artstyle
>>284086775And it'll keep doing it.So this is the power of AI...
>>284086793Rice balls will finally become actual jelly donuts.
>>284086822the dream is real
>>284086684>>284086775Disregarding the raping of the art and blackholing huge chunks of text, it's either making shit up or summarizing basic info on the guy from a wiki.For example, the sandwich GIRL is saying>A colossal! So tall! It's probably around a 3 story buildingAnd the last part says Maxim's more famous invention is the machine gun and more fun facts about that
>>284086952Now this is shitposting I can get behind.
Why would you watch anime and read manga for decades but not even learn the original language? Don't be a brainless consumer.
>>284080098Actually understanding the language is the point.You do realize that translation in and of itself is already a compromise right?Since I learned japanese I can just actually experience the real dialogue instead of a close approximation in another language. Same thing with novels; the prose is always going to be different.On top of not needing jeet LLMs or the efforts of scanlators of course
>>284087113because I'm still a pre-N5 after 6 years of Duolingo old-fag dono
>>284087897>DuolingoAnki is a better supplementary tool for learning. The best learning is still talking to natives, but good luck with that.
>>284087897Just read shit and you'll be able to read more shit gradually. Listen to shit and you'll be able to listen to more shit gradually. Talk shit and you'll start talking more shit gradually.
>>284087113>Don't be a brainless consumer.You are watching anime and reading manga. That ship has sailed for you too.
>>284086451This was first attempt with nano banana. I was never able to get it to copy the handwritten text's style
>>284086495
We've returned to early 00's ESL manga translation.
>>284088578Anime and Manga... is healing...
>>284088578Returned? It has been this way for years. The advent of famous online readers after the first era (OneManga and Mangafox being just scrappers) with Batoto and then Mangadex gave birth to one-man scan groups that were composed of ESLs translating things out of botched guess work or the early tools for MTL, before this AI boom.
>>284081231>the LLM can accurately translate when you do its work for itThe state of you
>>284086315Anon meant ecchi manga and the likes.
>duwang is backsovl
>>284080098「よし 繋がっ。。。」I'm surprised the AI didn't pick up on the cut-off, it's made explicit within the text. I've personally found an issue with using LLM to batch translate subtitles, where it will insert some random crap in to provide "context". It's certainly handy when doing fire and forget style translations to quickly show stuff to friends who don't know JP, but when it comes to anything with long term characterisation or flowery metaphors (usually manga from the 70s or 80s) it tends to fuck up.
>>284087897Genki > Tobira > AnkiSupplement with podcasts and if it's still relevant, Wanikani is alright.
>>284080098Best new manga of 2025, if anything.
>>284088949>AI>sovlPick one.
>>284089079IMAAAAAAAGINE!
>>284080098It would be better if it could simply remove the text while not redrawing the whole page and not turning screentones into mess.
>>284080098Americans will do anything to not put any effort to learn the language lmao
>>284080098>>284089041>tsunagatta translated as connected>tsunagarimashita translated as connectedJust 2 more years and AI will get good
>>284089079Text book example of garbage for pathetic losers that never outgrew their edgy and horny teen phase, if anything.
>>284089497I took back, マンガラバー is the best manga to come out in 2025, forgot that no fun is allowed in this shithole.
>>284089664Fun is allowed, it's just that pretending schlock for (man)children is peak fiction will get you shat on.
>>284089983>pretending schlock for (man)children is peak fiction will get you shat on.You are too young for /a/
>>284089983Should phrase it as best in terms of entertainment value because of how stuck up people like you are.
>>284090085Don't talk to underage posters
>>284089465What's the issue there? How would you translate it?
>>284090034>>284090123Every accusation is a confession. You're the one seething over an accurate assessment of the slop you enjoy because you're too immature to like something for what it is.
>>284086500By the way trying to translate this made it spaz starting shitting out random words. Then it told me it cant do it because it contains public figures.>>284089079>please wait a moment
>>284090252>you are but am I?
I want to see what this does.
saar...
>>284088836It's almost like its a tool to help a human complete a job and not some magical wand that does all the work.Much like how you need to use a hammer to nail something. The hammer isn't gonna swing itself.
>>284080098Yeah no, not when it fucking redraws shit.
>>284080894Why are we letting people openly shill here now
>>284090392
>>284091236>enoura:)
>>284090271>Then it told me it cant do it because it contains public figures.This is the AI future that you guys keep shilling???
>>284086599hahaha that sounds hilarious. Do you have a link?
>>284089465Connectedℭ𝔬𝔫𝔫𝔢𝔠𝔱𝔢𝔡I'm joking of course. I wouldn't translate it because it can't be translated. That is why I learn Japanese
>>284088247>"your big brother" >turns internal dialogue into a speech bubbleB-but at least I don't need to learn a useless language like Japanese!>>284090647People want it to be a magic tool. If you still need to know Japanese and have to correct typesetting errors that wouldn't be there if you'd done it yourself you're just making things more difficult. Going by your example it's more like an automatic hammer that you still need to babysit and occasionally correct its course. Hammering nails by hand would be knowing Japanese.
>>284086599>I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't translate the loli porn
I've been using gemini to read raws and it's pretty mindblowing how far this tech has jumped in just a year. Grok could barely recognize an image a year ago.
>>284086500>>284086684>>284086775To be fair to the redraw, the original was very bland so this Ghibli style fits better
>>284086599lol what!?
>>284080098>What's the point of learning Japanese again?Being able to read the actual raws and hearing the Japanese in your head. We'll probably have that in another 10-20 years via BCIs though.
>>284092742>BCIsNah. 3 years at most. This train is not stopping anytime soon and I plan to be one of the first ones to implant my chip
>>284092595Just make your own shitty AI manga then at this point instead of slopping out fanfiction.
>>284080098>With [soulless AI slop] you can-Don't care.Didn't read.You are a soulless golem.
Why is this thread still alive?
>>284092779Site is bleeding money. Need any traffic it can get. If not as a business then as a honeypot for the CIA
>>284092752Neuroscience has barely got a clue how internal monologue works at present. The type of BCI that you're talking about would equate having an AI ghost in our heads that lets us use telepathy and crunch numbers like a calculator, in 2028. It's good that you're staying positive though
>>284080098it's a miracle! The finger is now twitching by itself!
>>284092039>>284092337>>284092662samefag luddite trash
