Out and dumpin'.https://cubari.moe/read/imgchest/agyvndjjw48/1/1/
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>>284092509>Mosa-mosaWell, that confirms it, Mosa is Shirahoshi.
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>>284092509Oda really laying it on thick here
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>>284092548>great assetGarling sees the twins as his weapon.
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>>284092603Chapter END.No break next week.
crazy how this flashback just made shanks and garp so much more interesting. Like there's now no room to agenda shitposts, they all had great reasons to do what they did.
>>284092603My FUARKING hero Loki is a caring son
>>284092621Loki's a mama's boy
>>284092621Thanks.Poor Loki...
>>284092603do you think Oda ever planed for Hajrudin to be a prince of elbaf back in dressrosa or was it a vivi situation where he just saw an oppurtnity and changed the background of the character completly from what was his initial plan?
I like the dwarf-looking Giant who is assisting Ida, he has a fun design.
>>284092454>putin in the 90's asking to join nato be like:
>>284092378So what is this creature exactly? A child mink that just so happens to live on Nami's island now?
>>284092509>Learned folksThis flashback really is just a cautionary tale about being an uncle tom
>>284092378>>284092385>>284092402>>284092415>>284092434TCB was always troon agenda shit but this gotta be their worst translation ever so far, no?>mosa mosa, shaggy>more than 10 instead of simply "dozens">deep-deep surface sea god's steel>the general wordiness>"down there">"foreign bitch" to make them sound le extra racist and project their Reddit basedness onto Loki (when he's literally a chud)
The twist is that Shamrock is actually the one who helped Fisher Tiger.
>>284092703Hajrudin serving Buggy, going to Dresrossa for the Mera Mera and wanting to be king of the giants (something he would be by birthright) would make no sense if he were a legitimate royal
>>284092725Just a cat. Animals can stand on two feet and do things like regular humans in the OP world.
the bigger twist is that Buggy is actually the one who helped Fisher Tiger.
>>284092760>>mosa mosa, shaggyThat one is defendable, the audience is supposed to look at that line and go, "wait, Mosa is Shirahoshi?"
Wtf so he just left his crew to join holy knights?
>>284092764only if oda is cheating. hair length looks like shanks
I am starting to understand how the time jumps can confuse people. Not afraid to admit that many times I've had to check character ages and a timeline to see when other major events happened during this flashback. Not complaining, just is what it is.
If anons haven't made the connection yet, Loki burning down Estrid's village is called back to his arsonist pranks in Chapter 1136.>>284092703Hajurdin was already talking about being King of the Giants in Dressrosa. It's a generic enough statement but I think Oda already had a general plan for his character.
great chapter
>>284092791why did they make yasopp look like aokiji
>>284092562Shanks bros....not like this....
>>284092378whats the link between harald and shanks? i didnt get it lol
First Sanji's grounded backstory ruined with some edgy JRPG shit and now Shanks
>>284092843Truly the most inconsistently designed character in the series.
>>284092764If I, as Holy Knight, wanted to bully the fodder CD, I would also free their slaves and let them escape.
>>284092791Roger pirates were already disbanded after Roger reached Raftel and went to impregnate a woman to give birth to Ace and give himself up. Shanks is gathering new crew after his Heavenly Knight gig. It seems him going to Mariejois is right after getting wounded by Teach to his left eye
Poor Loki
>>284092454Is it 13 deep-deep sea contracts or 13 deepdeep+ deep sea contracts?
>>284092562Hilarious, really. If it were any other evil organisation they would sniff him out instantly, claiming he is overcompensating, but they are so corrupt that none of them even bats an eye at this over-the-top bullshit. We need a scene of Shanks and his crew laughing at this.
>>284092791actual time line>shanks was found by roger>cabin boy in roger pirates>roger is executed, the crew disbands>shanks goes goes to mariejois for some reason (free slaves?)>eventually he is either exiled from mariejois or willingly leaves>forms his actual crew>steals nikka fruit, luffy eats it and shanks loses the arm with the mark
>>284092843He straightened out his hair later.>>284092867I feel like that he probably spotted him on Roger's ship once or twice.
deep deep deep
>>284092874>>284092764It's starting to look like someone inside top orchestrated the slave escape. Could be HK member doing PR stunt or psy-op to secure power or funding or whatever or justify separataion against Fishmen and Giants, whoeever they plan to use as scapegoat
>>284092791>Guys, I'm going to Mary Geoise to find out some shit; wait for me to come back.It's not that hard.
The scene when Loki finally returns to Ida's tavern when Elbaf is saved and is finally accepted by Hajrudin and Mato will be very heart warming
>>284092621Atrocious spread
>>284092562The RAT shown his true colors.>H-He is playing a role...!!Watch as the true reveal comes: he isn't playing nor lying right here. And when he talked to Harald, he turned his head from disgust.
Plot leak>Shamrock was the one who helped Tiger>Shanks is evil and his whole crew including Yasopp are Marijois elite guards>Nika Nika fruit likes to hide itself as devil fruits that give rubbery and stretchy abilities, the real gum gum fruit exists somewhere>Shanks stole the Gum gum fruit because he was worried CP0 might give it to the marines in actuality he wanted to eat it himself>he cut off his arm himself, not because the sea king ate it
>>284092943There have been far worse.
What if Shamrock pulls a Kizaru and saves the strawhats from the other god knights without them noticing
>>28409288113 deep-sea and deep-deep sea (abyssal sea) contracts combined.My current theory is 5 for the Gorosei and 8 for the God's Knights
Send this specific text box 15 years back in time.
>>284092881>>284092978This also makes me think that Imu's actual form or 'body' may be at the deepest part of the planet, if not the core itself. Something's definitely way at the bottom of the sea, something even fishfolk can't truly fathom or even explore.
>>284092881I imagine that these contracts are only for the Holy Knights and Gunko has a higher tier of contract for sure since she seems actually immortal and can summon Abyss marks out of the ground. So probably the first option.
>>284092519That's Shamrock, btw.
>>284092952Shamrock and Shanks switched places confirmed! Shamrock gave Luffy the Nika Nika!!!
A good reminder that despite all the markings and pacts, Imu can't freely eavesdrop or read minds (evidenced by how they question the Gorosei about mission progress). I know that's where your mind is going to when thinking anout how Shanks can do so much sneaky shit.
>>284092978I guess Gunko was still shallow tier at god valley, but might've been promoted by now
>>284092952Shut up, Shanks.
>>284092519If you look closely on shanks you see blood splatter from his left eye
>>284092764Shamrock is actually the good guy in this tale, would be hilarious
>>284093017Did Shanks have the Figarland surname or did he take it off?
>>284092562he is a great actor
>>284093074Shamrock will most probably just end up being the Vergil of Shanks.
Spics won again.
Plot Leakjinbei gets kidnapped by the royal knights and taken to marijoys. he is selld to a slave owner who is into "landwhales" who proceeds to rape him repeteadly until he mindbreaks him. Whn the strawhats find him jinbei is so traumatized that luffy needs to fuck him every night just that he can go to sleep. zoro is revealed to have started trained the four swword style by putting a sword in his ass, which awakens something in him and makes him abandon his dream and instead marry kiku. meanwhile sanji fucks nami, robin and pudding and becomes the pirate king in luffy's palce.
>>284092902>He straightened out his hair later.zesty
>>284092562>"I'M ACTING"
>>284093104Based and true.
>>284092562>wound still fresh it bleeds without bandagesSo whats more likely, Shanks got into a fight as a pirate with Teach just before he was a God's Knight or it was on a mission with the HK
>>284092415He has the Gold Roger eyes here
>mfw luffy invites a fat blue figger into his crew
>>284092385Morgansbros, our hero is here
>>284092519The left eye is covered. Thats shanks.
>>284093132>jobbed offscreen to BBMy King Shamrock would never!
>>284092548Is this because the Roger pirates visited Elbaph?
Shanks learned racism and humanity supremacy
>shanks loses to blackbeard>instantly goes running to imu to beg for some regenerationKWAB
>>284092562people are talking about spics but this screams "made with fujos in mind"
>>284092548Holy Knights are an elite club.No wonder Garling is nice to Harald. The Holy Knights respect strength.I bet they look down on the fodder Celestial Dragons like Charlos.During the famine, the Gorosei and Holy Knights get the most food, and the fodder Celestial Dragons have found out and are rampaging.
>literal child work>shown to work for Iceburg day and nightThis pointless shitty character single-handedly makes One Piece worldbuilding at least 20% less believable and no one seems to care
>>284093163racism haki
>>284093174Not just fujos, but yumejos (self shippers) too.
When are we going to get Mihawk backstory
>>284092953>>Shamrock was the one who helped Tigerso oda is a shit mangaka and has to restort to tricking readers? he clearly has shanks hair length in the panel
>>284093178you're literally just mad it's a loli in a japanese anime and you're the average one piece fan aka an EOP brown shonen nigger redditor
>>284093178>child labor doesn't exist in the real world!anon I...
Am I a speed reader? Where would Harold have seen Shanks before?
>>284093132>Shanks got into a fight as a pirate with TeachI think this is it. In fact, I think he only went to the holy land to gather info because he thinks blackbeard is up to something and noticed something really wrong with him.When he met with Whitebeard he says that Teach was dangerous and was suspicious, he also said that the scar he got wasn't even because he underestimated him or was careless, and told WB to watch out.
>>284092953>Shamrock was the one who helped TigerIt's Shanks, he has bandages over his left eye that Tiger rips off.>>284093226Roger surely visited Elbaf too.
>>284093104Least degenerate Sanjeet
>>284093203No backstoryHes just super strong with zero relations to the gods knights or imu like the king punch guy
>>284093226we don't know yet
>>284093200>self inserting as the one female slave that reaches shamrock heart and fixes himmillions will wet their panties for this
>>284092509Okay, hoshifags, I continue to believe Mosa=Hoshi is contrived and makes no sense BUT it's as good as confirmed now, all that's left is for me to KNEEL.
>>284093132Looks like the former, Garling doesn't introduce Shanks to Harald until after Fishter Tiger attacks Mary Geoise.
>>284093257I wouldnt mind it if Oda would have hinted to her and loki talking before elbaf. Or at least shown her having a mysterious pen pal.
>>284093226Meeting with the Roger pirates off screen after GV at some point. How else would Gaban shack it up with Giant pussy and make a child soon after?
>>284093226It's either something we haven't seen yet like Roger visting Elbaf (since we just skipped like 20 years in this chapter), or something about inherited will.
>>284093104Oda here you and everyone in this thread will hear from my lawyers for this unlawful leak
>>284092621Got teary-eyed here, I'm such a little bitch...
>>284092603>>284092621Wtf I love Loki now?
>>284093226He's pretty much a pirate hunter for the WG, Shanks should be a renowned pirate by that point, besides, he was on Roger's ship. They probably met at some point but nothing confirmed yet.
So we can all agree that if Loki has a transformation power he's joining right
>>284092454top house nigger slave goy catle goddamn
>>284092725It'a a regular cover, not a cover story, it's out-of-continuity.
>>284092900Shanks gathers the core members of his crew (Beckman, Yasopp, Lucky Roux) before he goes to mariejois and says he'll form a crew with them when he gets back
>>284092519That's actually Roger's ghost btw
I LOVE LOKI! I LOVE YAMATO!! I LOVE KATAKURI!!! I LOVE LAW!!!! I LOVE COOL PIECE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>284092562Odd... They've swapped dress styles, Shanks is always flashin his waxed tits, while it's Shamrock who wheres that gay neck thingy.
>>284093302Of course, shirahoshi husband is a straw hat pirate
>>284092562Someone tell ods if irl someone would be talking like that nyone with an iq above 90 would know theyre disingenuous
>>284093330>yamato
>>284093302Yeah bro I can't wait to see his dynamic with fellow strawhats carrot and yamato!
>>284093226I'm pretty sure it's either off screen or because he saw him in the news with the roger pirates
>>284093174 That's One Piece for a while now, it all feels very cliché JRPG with the typical Catholic coded bad guys, angel shit even though we already had an entire arc about angels that wasn't clichéd, replicants, twins, another edgy secret Akatsuki, Lunarians with tanned skin and blonde hair, one ofthe most overdone color schemes ever and pure gay pandering, everyone getting new edgy backstories, obviously chosen one shit everywhere, etc.I just want adventure and corrupt bad guys with cool personality
So we're going to have to wait until BB's flashback to find out what happened to his mom.
>>284093178You think the world government gives a shit about child labor
>>284093349stronger than katakuri and law btw.
>>284092621>mom hates him>adopted mom dies becomes moms side family is a shitPoor guy
>>284092562Why are they wearing their coats properly unlike the admirals who drape it on their shoulders like a cape
>>284092764Tiger tears his bandage off and blood starts pouring out. It's Shanks.
Yamato and Carrot should spend the rest of their lives inside Loki's foreskin surviving only on eating his smegma and drinking his ball sweat and piss
>>284092603>>284092621He loves his mom!Lokichads keep winning!
>>284093359>complains about cliche jrpg>loves skypiea, the most cliche jrpg arc in opanon...
>>284093384Shamrock is Shanks they're doing a prince and the pauper thing
Harald's sunk-cost fallacy pacifism biting Imu and the World Government back in the ass is kind of funny.
>here Loki, she is my daughter the most beautiful mermaid in the whole world, outshining even Hancock>You are my type Loki!>Meh Lola was betterPlease Oda do it
How come Loki and Hajrudin are based in their own ways but Harald is SUCH a cuck
>>284093429Loki is for Mato.
>>284092562So why's shamrock wearing shanks uniform in the present?
Shallow: aides unlimited numberDeep: 8 hkDeep deep: 5 gorosei
>>284092562>Shamrock: It can wait till your wounds are fully healed, ShanksGoddamn, BB fucked up Shanks real good and Shamrock is areal good brother looking out for his bro.
With how shy shirahoshi is its hard to imagine how on earth her and loki nanaged to have regular conversations given his personality
How old is he now?
>>284093462>tfw your little brother cares more about reuniting with the silly clown pirate than youGarling probably despises shanks but I wonder if Shamrock does miss him
>>284093511Probably in his late 60s, early 70s.
>>284093511Why does he age but Gunko doesnt
>>284092621break next week btw
>>284093429>cuckedcucked>cuckedcuckedalso him being into lola now makes more sense since Loki has mommy issues and Ida is ugly and has big lips, so he probably sees those characteristics as attractive since they remember him of Ida.
Shirahoshi being mosa is feels like such an asspull. Not satisfying.
>>284093553False.
>>284093541Gorosei and Garling got their contracts as old farts, Gunko as a young girl, that's my assumption.
>>284093461Gunko's unaging like Gorosei. Either she has a double d pact or there's a separate thing... but then what's so great about the upgraded version?
>>284092562Shanks is a Hakiman
>>284093541Gunko being Imu's attendant during the Rocks incident and unaging from then to God Valley but only having the lowest rank of mark at GV should spell it out anonShe's immortal on her own, probably the Op Op surgery
>>284093566delusional
>>284093561I had seen posts theorizing that though so I wouldn't say it's an asspull although it is a kind of flat reveal that changes almost nothing in the story
>>284093581My crackhead theory is shes by hair color connected to lili and imu is a coomer so he made an exception because shes probably hot af under the mask anyway
>>284093459It smells like Shanks. Shamrock is a creep brocon.
>>284093561an """""asspull"""" that people have been predicting for over a year
>>284093541Gunko is a cute blue-haired girl with a big butt, Garling is not.
>>284092766>and wanting to be king of the giants (something he would be by birthright) would make no sense if he were a legitimate royalhe's not legitimate royalty though, hes a bastard.
>>284093621Going by Oda's coloring process, Gunko's hair was a last minute decision, like always; she was pink at one point. Her having Vivi's hair is coincidence and not story relevant.
>>284093614I mean it's a big thing. Shirahoshi is a ridiculously important character (she is poseidon after all), so conecting her with the giants and Loki will probably change the story a lot. Honestly more than a reveal it feels like set up for the future.
>>284093214>>284093374Is this really the best cope for it? Bitch is EIGHT. One Piece like pretty much all fiction presupposes common social norms unless stated otherwise, children are generally depicted as living normal carefree lives unless evil guy does evil things, and Water Seven is supposed to be as first world as it gets for OP standards. It makes no sense for her parents or Iceburg to allow this and just looks like a stupid cover story gag that went too far and now causes shit worldbuildingThat it makes Oda look pedo doesn't help but isn't even the main problem
>>284093541Gunko is the Great One's COOMfu.
>>284093608>gunko won't shrivel up into a hag when imu breaks the contractHurray!!!
>>284092621>it's not the blood family that matters, it's the one you make on your own>hurr, shanks is really a rat
>>284093674>That it makes Oda look pedo doesn't help but isn't even the main problemisn't he close friends with some mangaka who got busted for cp?
>>284093641That's anon's point: if he wasn't a bastard then he wouldn't need to prove his claim to the throne.
>>284093674Gags > all in One Piece, Oda really doesn't care.
>>284093682What would happen if Charloss slapped her ass?
>>284093674Will ya shut up
>>284093674take your sensitive ass back to r/piratefolk we fuck lolis here
>>284093674Anon there are 8 year olds working on every country on earth right now. If you think there are none in america, china, germany or any other first world country you want to name you are stupid.
>>284093694Picrel can still happen.
>>284093718She'd fart conquers haki
>>284093674The joke is that he chose a helpful kid over the hussies with sex appeal, libtard.
>>284093674At eight Nami was already a genius cartographer and two years later she began her career as a thief.
If non Nobles can just climb the ranks to become Holy Knights and enjoy all the perks, why not offer Doffy that deal instead of letting him remain a pirate with the power to ask for favors
>>284093790Doffy is yc3 at best bruh plus theres still resentment towards his branch of donquixotes for leaving
>>284092621LOKI IS NAKAMA
>>284092454>>284092881My guess is Deep Sea Contract = Regen (most Knights of God, Garling included before his recent promotion)Deep Deep Sea Contract = Regen + ageless (Gorosei + Gunko)So there are seven more ageless punching bags out there
>>284093790Harald is likely to be a special case, Gunko was a God's Blade but she was still part of the Mannmayer's.
>>284093748But Saturn likely just died because he had been alive for hundreds of years unnaturally, catching up with him after Imu broke the contract...Gunko won't have that weakness!
>>284093790Harald had the nation of elbaf to offer as collateral while Doffy didn't have anything but the secret
>>284093178Gonna be honest, I always thought she was just short. Guess I was wrong.
>>284093340Either a red herring, or another one of Oda's recent memory lapse, like Luffy's sword becoming an axe, Nami's clothes changing, or Sommers losing the complete opposite arm.
>>284093790It's convenient to have him as a controlled piece on the seas rather than in Mariejois where he holds a grudge against everyone. And I'm betting he's stronger than most of them except the gorosei, Garling, Shamrock, and Imu.
>>284092562>Shitposting that became real
>>284092509Now I don't have a problem with Mosa being Shirahoshi. Before this though? Not a single hint towards that being the case. I still don't know why you guys believed in it before this.
>>284093764>Why is the rat called Tyrannosaurus? it's a rat and not a dinosaur. and you'd expect a character named tyrannosaurus to be big and scary and not small and cute. I don't get it. Oda is a hack fraudt. western One Piece "fan"
>>284093694It's the only thing that makes senseShe was a child with Brook while he was a kingdom's knight.Brook died 52 years ago at 38 years old, Rocks broke down the Gate of Justice 56 years ago. Gunko's father probably sacrificed his life to make her immortal with the surgery
>>284093723Will ya stop coping? That your fanboy ass can't accept a flaw for once is the only reason we are still posting about this. Actual OP fans can recognize Oda brainfarts and accept them as what they are>>284093737No there are no 8 year olds working day and night as a secretary in any first world country if even in a third world country>>284093764Libtards (like you) are the pedos. Keep up>>284093785As a hobby and later because Arlong made her do it which was child labor and portrayed as wrong
>>284093790Same reason why they didn't just have an admiral slime his ass when he came to accept the warlord position, because the plot dictated it.
>D is a symbol for the half-moon, not a letter>Usopp will feed Black Kabuto a Devil Fruit>Zoro is literally half-asleep>Dragon will be the one to topple WG (Imu)>Devil Fruits originated from the Shandoran forest>Monster Point is an Awakened Zoan form>Usopp may die>Blackbeard is a type of 'fake' D.>Dragon has the strongest CoC of anyone currently living>Crocodile was a Revolutionary>Zoro can only Asura thanks to his cursed sword>Rayleigh was the strongest swordsman before Mihawk>Yoru itself is just a hilt and the blade is pure haki>Brook is Kuzan's grandfather>Blackbeard knows what happened during the Void Century>Stronger is like Chopper (where everyone on the outside thinks its a normal animal)
>>284093882Kys.
>>284093908Not going to kill myself because you are a triggered coping fanboy
>>284093806inb4 there are more of the OG 19 kings among the CDs
>>284093814If eternal youth is unrelated to Imu's power then it suggests Imu can kill his minions without any condition.
>>284093841Or it's just Oda giving his character different fashion styles during different period of their lives. Garling looked like a total buffoon during God's Valley but now he looks like the part, of the captain of the elite guard of Mary Geoise.
>>284092562Hmm
>>284093882hot
>>284093882>As a hobby and later because Arlong made her do it which was child labor and portrayed as wrongSo you are not arguing it's stupid but immoral? Did you forget that little slave who was building the bridge? The one who befriended Robin? One Piece world is a dystopia ruled by Satan and his Illuminati. You need to fuck off to your discord jelloapocalypse.
>>284093159>>284092519
>>284093882>Actual OP fans ...meaning EOPs that pirate the manga on 4chan
>>284093870Because in Japanese Mosa spoke the way Shirahoshi spoke, the snail had "pretty girl" eyelashes and Roger called Neptune's unborn daughter "shaggy" (mosa) back in the day
>>284093806>Deep Deep Sea Contract = Regen + ageless (Gorosei + Gunko)Gunko still has normal arrow powers compared to the Gorosei's fucking satanic beasts so I don't think it's the same exact contract. Hell, I don't think that the Gorosei included themselves in this explanation to Harald since they are Godheads and not God's Knights.
>>284092454You now remember white sea and white-white sea
>>284092621Ok if Loki at the very least is going to join the SH Grand Fleet after this. There is too much in motion for him now, Hajrudin will be the new king and Loki will take his place in the fleet and proceed to do nothing of note
>>284092519That's actually de-aged Figarland btw.
Someone put a gun to a drawfag's head and make them draw more Alice
>>284092454Wonder who else has received the shallow sea contract? Post-retirement Sengoku? Aramaki (would explain a lot actually)? Kong?
>>284092454Man harald was such a fucking cuck, the WG needed him and the giants way more than they needed the WG. He could have played hard ball to get the WG to accept this demands without embarrassing himself on top of getting tons of other privileges for him and his people.
>>284093907>D is a symbol for the half-moon, not a letterPossible, but I'm not betting on it>Usopp will feed Black Kabuto a Devil FruitThis is something I've said since the timeskip but it seems less likely arc by arc>Zoro is literally half-asleepschizo theory>Dragon will be the one to topple WG (Imu)I mean he'll for sure be involved at least>Devil Fruits originated from the Shandoran forestIdk about that but I'd wager they're from an ancient giant tree not unlike Adam and Eve>Monster Point is an Awakened Zoan formThat's what I've been saying since Impel Down>Usopp may dieThis is what I've been saying for like 15 years>Blackbeard is a type of 'fake' D.I don't think he's a fake D, I just think that the D he and Rocks used means Davy, where as the D of "real D:s" means something else>Dragon has the strongest CoC of anyone currently livingNothing points towards this>Crocodile was a RevolutionaryMight be, no reason to believe so though, I just think he was a woman>Zoro can only Asura thanks to his cursed swordI mean why not, it's clear that Asura is some sort of a weird manifestation that is visible to others and not just some visualisation for readers only, so there's something about it we don't know>Rayleigh was the strongest swordsman before MihawkThis is what I've been saying for years, even before people started theorizing about Mihawk being Rayleigh's son. >Yoru itself is just a hilt and the blade is pure hakiHaven't heard this one but again, why not>Brook is Kuzan's grandfatherThis is what I've been saying for years>Blackbeard knows what happened during the Void CenturyI don't think he knows everything, but due to Davy's history he likely knows something>Stronger is like Chopper (where everyone on the outside thinks its a normal animal)This would be fun
>>284092415>>284092402If Harald attacked Kaido or Whitebeard like that, what would happen?
>>284092519Fisher Tiger here is just Aokiji pretending to be a fishman btw
>>284093790>haralda key piece in the world's government plan on getting the giants, so definitely an exception>shanksThe Donquixote might have been a minor family in mariejois plus they basically "betrayed" the world government by abandoning the celestial dragons vs the figerlands who seem like one of the most important families, so that's why Imu was probably more willing to let shanks in over mingo.
>>284092621OUR hero.
Gunko having an extra contract abpve her rank would track, assuming the number is permanent. At the time of GV, there are 7 God's Knights, with 5 Gorosei, for a total of 12, Gunko would make the 13th.
>>284093427God imagine if that's the twist, that Shamrock is actually Shanks and Shanks is actually Shamrock and the one raised by the pirate king grew up to be an asshole while the one raised in paradise became the good man and they took each other's identities.Oda will never fucking do this, but imagine.
>>284094024>KaidoKaido would die.>WhitebeardHarald would die.
>>284092378wait, are we done with yamato's slogfest adventure?
>>284094036She was a God's Blade same as Harald. Only the deep and abyssal contracts count towards the 13
>>284092562>Average Gods Blades meeting
>>284093048Gunko is a fucking mystery to me. She's apparently the lowest rank of God's Knight at God Valley, not even one of the 13? But she's one of the few individuals gifted with immortality and had been for almost 20 years even BEFORE God Valley (even Garling and Sommers age)
>>284094043The problem with the twist is that it would be absolutely pointless. A random twist for the sake of a twist.
>Folks, is it really logistically and industrially possible for the World Goverment to have systematically removed six million lunarians from the Red Line? It just seems like the trucking infrastructure and manpower needed for such an undertaking is far beyond what the World Goverment would have actually done.I know Harald wants his country to get into the system but this is a little too much imo
>>284094019Apparently Elbaf has some privileges at its disposal at the moment.
>>284093937>they actually swapped places in mariejois
>>284093948baka
>>284093870>Not a single hint towards that being the case
>>284094108why is Harald using Whitebeard's symbol
>>284094059I dunno, Kaido and Linlin were said to have gotten way stronger AFTER God Valley and Kaido survived an attack from Demon Rocks and was chilling with Big Mom the next chapter like nothing happened while Harald got his ship burned by Rocks. I don't see Harald beating a full strength Kaido.
>>284094102I mean the more obvious thing is Shanks as a very noticeable scar and Shamrock doesn't, unless Shamrock scars himself while Shanks' scar heals.
>>284092791He was only undercover for 2 years at most. Possibly less than a year.Confirmed timeline:39 years ago: Shanks is born on God Valley38 years ago: God Valley Incident25 years ago: Roger disbands his crew24 years ago: Shanks and Buggy witness Roger's execution in Loguetown and part ways22 years ago: Shanks recruits Yasopp (Chapter 0)(19 years ago: Shanks adopts 2-year old Uta, the main members of the Red Hair Pirates are assembled)15 years ago: Shanks is scarred by Blacbeard and goes to Mary Geoise at age 2414 years ago: Shanks is in Elbaph when Harald gets killed13 years ago: Shanks and the Raid Hair Pirates attack CP9 ship and steal the Gomu Gomu no Mi12 years ago: The events of chapter 1, Shanks loses his arm protecting LuffyHim stealing the Gomu Gomu no Mi is the absolute limit when he can't be acting as a Blade of God anymore.
>>284093940>So you are not arguing it's stupid but immoral?It's stupid and inconsistent. It makes her look like an autistic child who gets exploited, it makes Water Seven look like a lawless, backward dump and it makes Iceburg look like a psychopathic asshole...for a shitty absurdist joke that isn't even funny
>>284094075yes. keep up anon its been a couple chapters now
>>284093940That other anons a fuckin retard, but that little girl was Anime only, in the manga it's just Robin and some guards, so it's not the best argument on your behalf.
>>284092509>>284093870There was a similar exchange when Roger talked to Neptune before Hoshi was born, I'd asked an anon if he used the phrase mosa back then but he said he didn't. But still, this was probably a hint. And with what Loki and Mosa talked about it all lines up with what happened to her at the Reverie.
>>284094076That's why I'm saying "a contract above her rank". She might have been given deep² contract as Imu's attendant, but then Imu noticed her combat pitential, so he made her climb through the ranks anyway to get some experience.
>>284094121Newgate was a filthy closeted buccaneer who tainted the holy symbol of the glorious World Goverment. It's a tragedy, really, now people only think about his infamous band of criminals when they see the symbol, and the not sacred, pure and balance-bringing symbol it really is.
>>284094108With all that they've invested in Harald, I wonder what kept Jimbe from getting the offer given how he worked for the WG to try and bridge the gap between Marijoise and Fishman Island? He was a reasonable guy who was also seemingly mostly in the dark about the really nasty secrets of the WG, he'd be perfect to get the mark slapped on him.
>>284094098Shes Imu’s personal attendant and her eyesImu went crazy and manifests itself after Gunko started glitching out because of Brook despite the Gods Knights had everything under control
>>284094142
>>284092473Look at the architecture. It looks like Greek/Roman.The Holy Knights live more fancy than foddder CD like Charlos.
>>284092760meds
>>284093937>>284092562what the fuck
With how bad One Piece handles character deaths, does /a/ think that Whitebeard/Big Mom/Kaido will come back to life for the final war?
>>284094098Starting to think the woman in the room of flowers isn't her
>>284093462He's talking about Fisher Tiger here not BB. Go look at the pages with them again.
>>284094205you indeed need meds to defend tcb
>>284094024prime Kaido gives him a high diff fight but loses. prime Whitebeard and him fight till they both collapse.
>>284092454>13Alright so let's include Imu and that's 14. Luffy fights Imu, let's say the other 9 members of his crew also fight a God Knight or Gorosei. So who else is backing Luffy up in this fight? I suppose the people in the mural would make the most sense.Zoro and Sanji would likely be fighting Gorosei members. Though that also doesn't take into count the people with the weakest seal marks that the weaker crew members would likely fight. I wouldn't be surprised if Shanks ends up being the one to fight Shamrock or Garling though.
Oh shit I just realized that after this chapter's events, we're less than 1 year from Harald's death.There's a non-zero chance the flashback could end the next chapter.
>>284094098To be fair, aging in One Piece is pretty random. If she was 15 when Imu meets Rocks, she'd be 33 in God's Valley, she could still look the exact same even without magic by One Piece standards.
>>284094217you're stupid
>>284092562There are definitely princesses/commoners who would want to marry a gallant man like Shamrock.He's rich, attractive, and powerful. I would cry and commit suicide if a Charlos wanted to marry me.
>>284094210I'm a Big Mom is alive believer
>>284094205This chapter reads like shit and they constantly gendered Yamato (he) and Kiku (her) even when the Japanese text used neutral words like friend ("save my friend" => "save her")
>>284093348That's literally how all the Holy Knights talk you midwit.
>>284092562Man, Shamrock maybe actually felt hurt when Shanks' over the top acting turned out to be just that.
>>284093257it is contrived but that's Oda's writing.
>>284092548You can tell Shanks is cringing from saying all that in the last panel
>>284094153this moment always makes me laugh, Roger's whimsical childish nature assuming Neptune being a hairy fuck, would have a hairy daughter, it's so simple but it makes me smile.
>>284092532How old is Hancock?
>>284094142>It's stupid and inconsistent.You stupid nigger. Overly capable children is a trope old as time that is especially prevalent in anime and manga. We see it in One Piece multiple times: cartographer Nami, spy Ginny, fighters Ace and Sabo and so on.Alice is probably a hypercompetent overachiever, and she stands in the queue visibly excited. It looks like she wants that job rather than has to get it because of money problems or something.>>284094152I didn't actually know that but there are a bunch of other slave children like Ginny or Koala. One Piece world is a hellhole, child labour is the least problem there.
Shanks and Shamrock received a brain transplant and swapped bodies btw
>>284094261Nah, still zero. But we could go back to thf beginning next chapter, i.e. end on Harald getting stabbed.
What is Prime Kaido exactly? Is that not just the one Luffy fought?
After reading the dialogue in English I kind feel really bad for Harald. He wanted to have a good relationship with The World Government. Unfortunately I feel like The World Government broke the deal first which is probably how this all ends. Despite the giants being useful and good they did worship Nika and I think Imu was never going to truly accept them because of this.
>>28409431631
>>284093790Doffy only has this secret and some underground connections (the wg also has)Elbaf is king of elbaf. Mind you big mom admitted inferiority to whitebeard but with elbaf was sure she could overcome not only him but all the other yonko. Giants are a HUGE deal in op even if the manga doesnt show it well enough
>>284094313I think Roger was just joking with Neptune
>>284092621Truly an AMAZING double page spread.
Buggy's nose is red permanent haki
>>284092562>>284093868
>>284094024Harald is pk tierKaido is yonko tierWb is pk tier.He defeats Kaido but WB either matches him or takes him out by feats
>>284094327There was no "prime" Kaido, just bad Oda writing. Kaido as a kid got captured dozens of times. Kaido during God Valley would get trounced by the rest of the Rocks gang. In the modern era, the Gorosei and Holy Knights are stronger than Kaido, as well as Loki.Kaido is just the embodiment of Oda's bad writing habits.
>>284092736>uncle tom* Captain Sweden in this case really. Uncle Tom has genuine benefits vs ghat. da & Harald did a number on the place due to being too loose. Loki's burdened with the bill now.
>>284092509Everyone is talking about Shirahoshi being Mosa, but there's a bigger question now.What's going on in Fishman Island that would cause Shirahoshi to be unable to talk to Loki? Who's raiding them? Who will save them?
shaggy mermaid bush penetrated by 50 foot giant timber
>>284094344His nose is red because clowns are from space.
No wonder Ginny was so heartbroken she had to come back to the lower world
>>284094360You could have just answered him
Loki did absolutely nothing wrong. In fact, he should have fucking tortured those bastards
>>284094370Blackbeard
>>284092473Saturn can't look straight
>>284094379I did. There is no prime Kaido. It doesn't exist. It fluctuates whenever Oda needs it to.
>>284094386Then who's raiding Marijoise?
>>284094281She's crying for her father in a flashback before going further back to remembering Brook and when Rocks is in the garden she has a text box going "..."My current guess is her kingdom couldn't pay the tribute and was destroyed but her father made her immortal so she couldn't be killed. But this actually ruined her life more and she became Imu's attendant because she was immortal and she just got more privileges as the years passed and she became more buckbroken and brainwashed
>>284094381An eye for an eye turns the whole world blind
Just so we are clear:Harold is serving the Holy Knights and is 100% aware of the fact and completely fine with them keeping human slaves, specifically child slaves like Boa?He was told that Fisher Tiger freed the slaves and his response was "That sounds rough".
>>284094360Nah, they are not.
The World Government is fucked up for betraying Harald in the end after all this humiliation ritual crap
>>284093280It's not just that we didn't know, it's that her having a mysterious pen pal makes no sense with how coddled and isolated she is. Unless she really picked that Den Den Mushi at the Reverie. But then why would Loki talk as if they were besties for a long time? It would have been 2 months tops.
>>284094261We'll see how Harald interacts with the Holy Knights. Shamrock must respect him when he visits his grave.I think Harald wanted to talk to the Elders about Elbaf joining the WG but the Elders don't want it. They planned to kill Harald. They planned to kill Harald. The Elders wanted to make Loki the new king.The guards wanted to kill Harald, but they were too weak. Loki and Jarul intervened.
>>284094412it's called #realpolitik nigga facts don't care about your feelings
>>284094196We know Harald is gonna "ruin" things for the GW at the end, somehow, so they probably didn't want to risk another fiasco like that, specially when they already established the Shichibukai system based on Harald's employment, less ties, but more safe for them.
>>284094398Shanks
>>284092621Feels like Oda intent with Loki is finding his belonging. The Tavern being a place he feels he belongs and him wrecking a village because they hurt the only person who accepted him seems telling about his character
>>284092385Impel Down already existed 33 years ago? I thought Harald was older than San Juan Wolf.
>>284093280>>284093257basically this, if we got even a glimpse of Shiraoshi on the phone in Fishman, or even later like on the way to the Reverie or something, I would have brought into itI guess it's the price to pay when you series is 20 years old and you get your ideas after the ideal moment to set the seeds has passed
Your filthy giant people have and still worship Nika. Take Loki for example and your connections Rocks. We were never going to accept you Harald
Oda is setting Sanji up to be Domi Reversi'd. Zoro's oppent this arc is going to be fucking demon Sanji.I am SO scared Sanji zisters! Someone trll me I'm a retarded fag!
>>284094376How many abandoned kids does Shanks have
>>284094403And he should maul you to death with his bare hands too
>>284094398Also Blackbeard. He's doing another multi-island plan like in Egghead.
>>284093041Also the fact Imu believed Eris and Teach got killed.
>>284094406This, im so confused as to what the fuck Oda is doing here? He's supposed to be this benevolent king but he's literally working for human slavers, he called Rocks bad for being a criminal but he's working with people far far FAR worse than anything Rocks, in fact he seems more friendly with the Gods Knights than he EVER was with Rocks.
>>284094376Ginny looks like a tramp. Shamrock has high standards like Garling.
>>284094412Are they really humiliating him? Now with Kuma, that was a proper humiliation ritual for a Bucc but Harald simply had to beta-test the Shichibukai system for them. If anything, the public perception of Harald is possibly healing since he's literally defeating pirates for the average joe.
>>284094426Explain nigger
>>284094450>Demon Sanji>Won't hit men
>>284094116Your picture holds zero (0) hints of Shirahoshi being Mosa.
>>284094360>holy knights are stronger than kaidoholy delusions batman
>>284092519>>284093064>If you look closely on shanks you see blood splatter from his left eyeLooks like Tiger snatched away the wrapping.
>>284094446Peak fascistcore.
>>284092519Ah yes, finally the Legendary knight Romeo appears, rival of the Sword God Ryuma.
>>284094376I think I'd buy all OP merch overnight if Oda actually made Ginny fall head over heels for Shamrock and forget Kuma up until when she had to go home.
>>284093967The snail also had a beard iirc, which afaik Shirahoshi doesn't have unless Oda's done some design changes we don't know about
>>284094480Look, it's a simple food chain:Kizaru went toe-to-toe with Gear 5 Luffy and walked out unscathed. Gear 5 Luffy beat Kaido no problem. Holy Knights are ranked higher than Kizaru.Ergo, Holy Knights are stronger than Kaido.
>>284092764No, it was Garling's year long ruse to execute Mjosgard.>Help Fisher Tiger to free all the slaves>Mjosgard chases them down to Fishman Island>His ship gets wrecked and is about to get killed by the locals>Gets saved by Otohime and have her bring him back to the Holy Land>Years later he repays the favor by protecting her family>Garling executes him for that
>>284094478>Demon Sanji>pulls his hair back, revealing both of his eyebrows>put on a girly hairband to hold them that way>Okama.... Kenpo...GODAAAA
>>284094446Not bad but the gloves and boots will obviously be of another color other than black. Possibly red.
>>284093806I thought 20 kings in charge of 20 kingdoms defeated Joyboy. This means there must be more Elders we have not saw yet
I look just like adult Garling irl. Im even wearing sunglasses right now
Wait so kuma and bonney arent blood related?They can have children together?
>>284092621bros....
>>284094458This. He's also raiding Wano for Pluton. But really, I do think BB will go for Shirahoshi, but I'd figured he'd try Wano first since Wano is much closer to Pirate Island, right? I thought he'd try Wano, Yamato would protect it, and he'd go to Fishman Island next.
>>284094507shiahoshi's tail beard...
>>284094507The snail had a beard because it was given to Harald 20 years ago so it grew one being old as fuck
>>284094535Anon.. come on
>>284094450No site discussing One Piece would be usable. Pure insanity.
Do you think that some of Shanks' crew members were former slaves who joined him?
>>284094512Kaido literally knocked out Gear 5 Luffy, although.
>>284094535>arent blood related?>They can have children together?I have some good or bad news for you and your sister.
>>284093340Eye bandage is a red herring.Shanks (yonkou) never been to Laugh Tale because he only swapped places with his brother after Roger's death. It all makes sense now.It also means that Buggy could have been to Laugh Tale. It doesn't explain how could Shamrock get rid of the contract and lose an arm. Maybe it's refundable.
>>284094565No? When?
>>284094478>>284094515You anons' jokes are funny but I'm even more zcared now as a Zanji zizter that my zchizo post deepreading seems plausible
>>284094108>"There are three levels">S>SS>SSS
>>284094446I wish I could dress like that.
>>284094579Before their big last attacks.
>>284094450Doubt it
>>284093177> The Holy Knights respect strength.LOL No they dont, they respect status, they are a bunch of low mid tiers below the gorosei who are carried by regen and they are literally only succesful because everyone else in the holy land is too fat and lazy to pick up a sword.
>>284092519I can't believe people claimed Fisher Tiger was Pirate King tier when he needed Shanks help to break his chains and hand cuffs
>>284094492Oda would never do that. Ginny looks average and isn't pretty like Hancock and Nami.
>>284094577The branding is on the left arm, which the sea king bit off. Maybe that forcefully severs the link
>>284094520The 19 other kings just sided their nations with Imu to attack the ancient kingdom but Imu fought Joyboy himself and didn't start sharing his powers with the celestial dragons for at least a few generations. Gorosei are ancient but they don't know exactly what Nika did
Garling is based Loki is based
>>284094446I look like this IRL except 200 pounds heavier
>>284094450Theoretically, nothing prevents Imu from using Domi Reverse on Zoro, Loki or Gaban as well.
>>284094596>Blud never owned a black winter coat
>>284094492>>284094376Land whales are by far the most disgysting creatures in the world.
>>284094446HOLY FUARK MY CHAMPION
>>284094600Nice dubs but doesn't convince me... Oda is an absolute mad lad. I don't think Sanji will be killed, but it'll still hit as hard (maybe harder) than "Luffy, help" or "Nothing happened" or...
>>284094628For me I just like him. Sorry your fat anon. You should burn it off
>>284092562Okay, this chapter with all the Prince and the Pauper switching and "Who's who now, who did what when, but what about now, why did they switch clothes, who was phone, what about fisher tiger kun, blackbeard did WHAT?" Is interesting enough to justify the whole evil twin brother affair.
>>284094515Zorobros... We are FUARKING finished...
>>284092562What are the chances of them actually switching places where present time Shanks is actually Shamrock and the Shanks who traveled with Roger became Shamrock?
>>284094633Zoro is too strong. He'd throw a one-liner about already being a demon or something and ignore DR altogether.
>>284094610>yfw Imu summons God's Knight of The Coast
>"You know, Luffy, with great power comes great Freedom. Gol D Roger called it "The human burden." Myself, I just call it as I see it: the responsibility of the master to discipline the servant.">Shanks looks directly at the camera.>"The fishmen, the okamas, the giants...It's our responsibility to civilize them. And if we can't? Then they shall dangle from the adam tree. The Day of the Rope is near, Luffy. We'll have every fishman under the sea dead or in chains in 10 years, and may God have me lose my arm to a weak ass seaking this very night if I'm wrong. God bless the World Government Gorosei party."
>>284092454>13 individuals>Its not going to be the elders nor the holy knights>Oda is gonna pull a fast one with the true god’s knights were hiddenIts going to happen for sure.
If Sanji became a demon he would beat women and If Zoro became a demon he would be white men and hate alcohol
>>284092621What kind of poison would be deadly enough to defeat a giant's immune system?
Sommers will rape ___ with a spiky dildo
>>284094653Like the other anon said that feels like a twist for the sake of a twist, like what's the point of Shanks and Shamrock trading places ultimately?Only thing I could think of would be some insane 20 year ruse cruise to get back at Garling for killing their mom if they found out somehow
>>284094653>unsure of who's who>Shanks steals the Nika fruit from Who's WhoGODA
>it was actually Shirahoshi Jesus christ you fucking bastards
>>284094684A giant poison, duh.
>>284094679>If Sanji became a demon he would beat womenchop women up with knives*
I wonder who the fake strawhats will pretend to be next. I imagine they'd get bored of pretending to be the Kidd pirates after a while.
>>284094689Oda…
>>284094684 irl poison dart frogs produce enough to kill several elephants
>>284094685jinbei
>>284094666Zero, Satan. But "Shanks" who BTFO'd Kaido and King during Marineford was Shamrock in disguise.
>>284094653I mean what's the point of having an identical twin brother if you don't plan as a writer to fuck with the audience? The ONLY other reason to do it is a Tales of the Abyss-style, "our blood isn't what determines who we are, but rather the life we lived" since the whole point of that game is that being a replica of someone else doesn't make you less of a person.
>>284094688But what if SHAMROCK stole it
>>284094667Xebec was three times stronger than Zoro. Unless Oda comes up with some rules for DR, there's no plausible reason for Imu to go after Sanji alone and ignore the rest
Gear 5 will have the ability to cancel Domi Reversi
>>284094428Nigga finally grew balls and got domi reversi'd
>>284094697pretending to be cross guild would be funny
>>284092473>Moon Manhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDgLOd5L8As
How many slave-wives does Sommer need to attend to his beautiful long hair in the morning?My guess is five.
If Luffy became a demon he wouldn’t like meat and would go against his friends / dream
>>284094515... up until now my biggest wish in this arc is that Robin's resurrected bangs die again after Elbaf wraps up.But this... this is now my biggest wish.
>>284092473>even Sommers can’t believe the giant king has become a government cuckslavedamn
>>284094633Zoro's sense of direction will flip him back up.
>>284094726all of them
>>284092562>>284093937RATnks exposedMy HERO Shamrock vindicated
>>284094296>You mean you aren't mega racist like me?
>>284092562Oh I understand now. Shanks never reached the status of Deep Abyss which is reserved for the top 13. So the regen is likely for the 13.That explains his eye not healing and him losing his arm. He purposely never ranked up so he could eventually sacrifice his arm (and the mark on it) without it growing back, cutting ties with Imu. AFTER gaining info on the Nika Nika fruit and stealing it from Who's Who of course.It all makes sense now.
>>284094200You are a dork discussing cartoons online, come up with a better cope>>284094319>You stupid nigger.>actual fanboy tard rage kek>Overly capable children is a trope old as time that is especially prevalent in anime and mangaShe is a secretary who makes coffee, not some kind of generational 200 IQ super genius where being a child must be ignored for the greater good. And One Piece assumes a real-life perspective on random shit unless stated otherwise, which is why of the ten thousand marines we've seen 99% are adults>cartographer NamiLiterally enslaved by Arlong, portraying child labor as bad>GinnyLiterally enslaved and portraying child labor as bad
Good chapter
>>284094713we're at a point now that Shamrock and Shanks could be working together and switching places all over over the years.
>>284092378which strawhat had the coziest place of origin
>>2840946660%
>>284094472Shamrock WILL have sex with Robin Viola and Reiju
>>284094779That kinda doesn't work once Shanks loses an arm
>>284094782ZoroSmall Japanese village is where all anons want to live
>>284094782Luffy probably. East blue and dawn dialed seems like a chill place besides animals but that’s just life
>>284094771"only person on the planet offended by this" award
>>284092473Why does Garling age more than Sommers?Is this a side effect of regeneration? Do you age faster if you regenerate often?
>>284094709>"our blood isn't what determines who we are, but rather the life we lived"I mean isn't that what Oda is doing, nature vs nuture for Shanks and Shamrock?
>>284092791I dont really understand the timeline and how it just so happens that Shanks could just go wherever after making a pact with Imu.
>>284094804>appealing to low IQ retard masses fallacyNot an argument
>>284094537That would be retarded. Blackbeard needs a proper win in the present. Oda should've let the nigga kill Rayleigh and Hancock.
Fisher Tiger's timeline doesn't make much sense unless he was recaptured while trying to free the slaves.
>>284094709Man I miss when Tales games were good. Of all games I would like they to rerelease, they refuse to do it for one of the best ones.
>>284094676Just had a flashback>late 2000s >Bleach is in the years long final war against Arrancars>Espada, the strongest of them, are an absolute disappointment>people remember how Vasto Lorde type Arrancars were supposed to wreak the heroes>the widespread "akshual realVadto Lorde are still going to show up after Espada jobs" theories>nothing ever comes out of it aside from people making fools outta themselves, Arrancars were just a bunch of useless jobbers
>>284094801And burning Gray Terminal.
>>284094793That didn't stop Kishimoto from doing it for that whole Obito fights Minato affair. I'm not understimating lazy justifications for big twists that don`t really fit EVER AGAIN. I've been hurt enough.
>>284092509Speedreader here. This is after Ohara right? So some HKs visiting Elbaf and seeing the library must be what set Imu off and go postal on Harald.
>>284094693I understood it
>>284092881Its really hard to tell really unless it is revealed who has the deep deep sea contract.
>>284092703His name and attacks overlapped with Odin of norse mythology, and he talked about being King of the Giants. It was likely planned.
>>284094809I think garling is just 10-15 years older than him
>>284094075The epic adventure of Yamato ended 5 chapters ago.
>>284094809maybe Deep-Sea is regeneration, but Deep-Deep Sea is Immortality.
>>284094138Do we know how he found out about the super duper secret CP9 fruit escort ship already? I forget.Would make sense if he heard the news about it as a God's Blade and that's when he decided to bail
>>284094779So who's Uta's real father then?
>>284094862shittiest one piece character ever
>>284093132>Teach was captured along with Fisher tiger>Shanks encounters Teach and frees him only for Blackbeard to turn back and slash his face because he doesnt trust a filthy noble.
>>284094858I don't believe Garling is 80 years old. Sommers looks 60.
>>284094847Yes, Saul being alive obviously means that it's post-Ohara.
>>284094862It's funny how for how much she was hyped up, outside of this cover story she was never mentioned again after Wano.
>deep sea>deep-deep seais this really official or what we want to go with?
>>284094446Okay, now use the Toei colours.
>>284094899I liked Shallow/Surface, Deep, and Abyssal better.
>>284094676>>284094839Not the REAL Roku Chouka again.....
>>284094883Keep in mind people in OP can live to 140, they're naturally longer-lived than we are. It's why the whole "Roger looks too young for 39" argument never worked for me, 39 is objectively not as old in the OP world as it is for us.
>>284094899lets see what viz goes with
>>284094716Imu could have DR'd Garp and Roger, he just didn't. Same here.
>>284092454>13 individualsCDs are more and more like (((them))) kek
>>284092548I think it's Harald has Joyboy's picture in a mural or something that were just the same as Shanks and Shamrock that's why he is finding them similar
>>284094899Hopefully Viz has something better
>>284094858>>284094883Garling is like 70 and Sommers is in his 50s (Garp didn't become fully grey until he was 60 if we're going by his hair color.)
>>284094916this edgy childish shit is what one peice feels like today
>>284094782Syrup Village seemed like a nice place. The only danger were pissed neighbours. There was no Grey Terminal, no Germa Castle, no Wapol...
>>284094917kureha is an outlier, not the norm. most normal people aren't doctors living in a doctor's country free from war and turmoil
>>284094899Probably different terms for "deep"Futekigousha webnovel has like 10 different ways to say "deep" "shallow" or "abyss" but you can't really translate it since it's functionally the same thing it all means "deep".
>>284094955Kureha is only an outlier in that she has somehow surpassed what's considered the maximum human lifespan.
>>284094899We had the White Sea and the White-White Sea back during Skypiea and you gobbled it up, saying damn Oda pre-TS so good post-TS so bad
>>284094948Sommers is a vain man and dyes his hair.
>>284092454I forgot, which god of the mural do we think Imu is? Could he be the sea god, what with this whole deep sea contract business? Feel like I remember some anon saying he was the forest god though.
>>284094983Also a funny SBS response.
>>284094446can you make the gloves white? Gives a better free mason look. I tried on Photoshop but I can't, it erases the lines between the fingers
>>284094917>this shit againThe 140 comment wasn't a rule for OP's world, it was Oda repeating he heard somewhere humans could live up to 140. As in, the real world. Being 60+ is already considered old in One Piece world, just like for us. The only difference is that you don't lose your gains in the middle age because Oda dislikes how young'uns disrespect middle aged dudes, but that's all.
>>284094990I mean I would assume it's the giant fucking demon holding the sun that everyone is fighting.
I honestly think that the whole contract thing is just based on if Imu likes you or not.
>>284094727I dunno if that makes sense though. Dorry and Broggy didn't want the opposite of their ambitions.
>>284094952lol far from it faggot
>>284095000>Being 60+ is already considered old in One Piece world, just like for us.Only if you're in your bad timeline, you stay youthful into your 60s in your good timeline.
>>284095004Sorry, I meant the Harley text moreso than the mural images.
>>284095007>This Sommers fellow is a sadistic chauvinist, Mu is greatly aMUsed>...>This is the part where you laugh at Mu's joke, Gunko
>>284094782Until we find out what went down with Brook and Gunko, best bets are Zoro, Usopp, or Robin.Luffy's village has/had a serious bandit problemNami was born in a war zone and then a pirate crew took over her adopted home for a decadeSanji's was some fucked up royals/eugenics dramaChopper and his herd had to deal with territorial boxing bunnies, extreme weather, and likely some part of Wapol's regimeFranky was abandoned by Queen and his mother, and was homeless until Tom found him in Water 8Jinbe grew up in the slums of FMI if I recall correctly, and being a fishman lived constant discrimination even from visiting pirates.Meanwhile Zoro lived in little village that had no mention of crime, Usopp's hometown was pretty chill despite Glasses killin folks in the shadows, and Ohara was an idyllic town until the WG deemed it worthy of testing out their buster call protocols on.
Shanksbros........rat allegation going strong........
>>284094839Tbf Kubo did do it with the blood war arc.
What are the odds Oda reveals what Roger's super AIDS was and it turns out to be something really lame like he got Domi Reversi'd but managed to overcome it at the cost of drastically reducing his lifespan?
>>284094990It's been a hot minute since I reread the Harley chapter but the Forest God was the one who basically spawned the Devil Fruits in existence and that can not be Imu... Unless I'm mixing the First and Second World?
>>284093178>makes One Piece worldbuilding at least 20% less believableAnon...you say this as if the chapters before or after showed us any different. Remember Luffy who grew up like Mowgli with his two feral brothers and the mountain bandits? Sanji who we saw as a kitchen hand since his boyhood. Nami????? Robin!!!???? Not one of the child characters that we have seen go to school or study at home except for Law and Sabo and Kaya who were all rich kids. Law and the others kids in Doffy's crew were pirates since childhood itself. Even the Marines recruit just about anyone and shape them up with training afterwards. Koby was 16 and Hibari is barely 17 the adult age in the world. The One Piece world is more like in the literary times of fairytales and piracy so say medieval era where trade was the norm. Only the nobility study or train for the court/army officer, noble girls train to be good wives, and the rest start picking up a trade since their teens to work in. Most of the times we even meet real kids like chabo, miss golden week, aisa or chimney they are not in a normal children's situation and all ended up with jobs too in the cover story. Not to say there aren't normal kids like Usopp's trio but theres very little indication of normalcy even with them.
>>284092900>frees the slavesIt's clear he was trying to gain intel on the Nika fruit.
What we know about Domi reversi so far>its only seen to work on non df users>having super strong or special haki wont protect you from it>garp and roger were able to reverse it somehow
>>284092385>lying press bird has a hook-shaped beakHmmm
>>284095034>Imu sama I cant laugh with this mask you forced me to wear.
>>284093048Shallow tier is gods steel, gods knights are deep tier
>>284094839Yammy being revealed as "actually I'm number ZERO, not 10" was so fucking stupid that it's where I quit the manga.
I'm starting to think this is actually Shanks.
>>284094990Sea God is Poseidon. Sea God apparently raged after "Sun" (Joy Boy) was killed and is responsible for the second world division, most likely Grand Line, just like Earth God was responsible for the first one, most likely Red Line. Poseidon's servants, Sea Kings, guard Grand Line.
>>284095091I remember the Jack memes with Yammy, that was fun.
>>284092562So Shanks is a double agent, theory is real?
Oh no, saints Shanks and Shamrock, please don't spitroast me, that would be horrible!
mid chapter
>>284095096Are you retarded? You thought it was Shamrock?
>>284095091And then he jobbed harder than anyone. I enjoyed Bleach for what it was but Kubo was never a great writer.
>>284095031Women do for sheer coom value, men do not.
>>284095096>starting
>>284095096It has to be, why whould Shamrock be all Shady when talking to his superiors like he does every time he reports something? Or maybe it's SHAMROCK PRETENDING TO BE SHANKS PRETENDING TO BE SHAMROCK, because you see, SHAMROCK SWITCHED PLACES WITH SHANKS BACK WHEN THEY FIRST MET, AND SHAMROCK WAS SUCH A PUSSY THAT HE GOT ALL CUT UP BY BLACKBEARD, AND NOW THEY'RE DOING some SHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADY SHIT
>sees someone>hmmmm how can i make this person my slaveCDs remind me of a certain group
>>284095096The volume 113 official video voiced that specific scene with Shamrock's VA.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_qWsQNWSVI
Wano was a mistake, nuke wano and execute everyone from Wano
>>284095127The Arrancars Saga was fun but I still checked before Aizen became a butterfly because the last arc was going on for too fucking long. TYBW shat the bed much faster in comparison.
>>284095148
>>284093790Imu really wants Elbaf on his side, so he likely made an exception for Harald the cuck. Doffy's family were considered untrostworthy traitors and already as a kid he proved to be too much of a wild card
>>284094726>pink rose 'hibari'Is Sakazuki the bastard child of the Shephard family?
>>284095096>Betrays you and steals the only DF your master has been searching for over 800 years.>Willing to negotiateThat would make the Elders look even dumber.
>>284095153Tybw went absolute apeshit towards the end with the absolutely absurd levels of power lille barro and gerald reached
>>284094998Sorry I didn't color it, found it on xitter
>>284093814>Gunko won't have that weakness!Yeah she would just turn into a 60+ decrepit hag
>>284095172Aye, I remember still enjoying the fight vs. Master Hand and the non-Aizen poison faggot but Gerard was so fucking bad that Kubo literally had to kill him by Yhwach lol.
>>284095039> Franky was abandoned by Queen and his mother?
>>284093790tbf Doffy was insanely strong, Luffy had to fight him with everything he had while Doffy was also maintaining the Birdcage. But the real reason they wouldn't touch him is because he had blackmail on them.
Will the real Red-Haired Shanks please stand up
>>284095138>>284095158Nuff said.
>>284095153>TYBW shat the bed much faster in comparison.Sternritter A "Asspull" and Sternritter B "Bullshit" were a hard miss, I agree. Ishida was pretty decent there, joining BBEG only to kill him for murdering his mother was a neat idea but pretty much everything else was crap. At least character designs were good, that was always Kubo's biggest strength. He is a far better artist than a writer, to truly shine he would need someone to collab with.
>>284095187In the reply chain it was discussing if gunko was unaging through the op-op fruit and not imu's buff
>>284095137>Oda claimed that Shamrock is an incredibly important character to the final saga and that the chapter where he shows up is especially improtantHm
>>284095198Doffy was strong at the time, in the greater scheme of things he is a nobody. Whats the point in recruiting someone who is weaker than jack?
>>284092562SHANKS THE MOLERAT
>>284092621>Crushes his wind pipe>NOW ANSWER MELoki-kun...
>>284094836He escaped alone and climbed down the wall, but felt guilty and immediately went back and climbed the wall back up and freed the other slaves.
>>284095234>someone who is weaker than jack?Kaido pls
>>284095172It was just tedious. Every one of the six final enemies had some form of "just won't die" gimmick. The fights were just them getting obliterayed before pulling a "just kidding" card until some asspull finally did them in. Though to be fair, Oda loves immortality/invulnetability as well...
Aaaayiiiiieeeee it was Shamrock all along! The one who dueled Mihawk was Shamrock! The one who fought Kaido was Shamrock!
>>284095238He was trained by Batman offscreen
rat
>>284093882
>>284095249I blame Saint Seiya personally because that's the MC's whole gimmick. Seiya doesn't win because he's the strongest saint or the fastest, or the smartest, or the most creative. He wins because no matter how many times he's knocked to the ground, he's able to get back up.
>>284095214The Quincy really peaked with Quilge; after him, I remember only liking Bambi, As Nodt and Mask. The comparison with the God's Knights draw itself so I really hope that Sommers will actually deliver in his telegraphed fight vs. Sanji when we go back to present-time Elbaf.
>>284095241It wasn't immediately, he went to Neptune to tell him what he's about to do.
So, are the God's Knights famous? Cuz they make it out that if Harald becomes a God's Knight everyone will be sucking his giant cock
>>284093203Mihawk is imu son
>>284094709>The ONLY other reason to do it is a Tales of the Abyss-style, "our blood isn't what determines who we are, but rather the life we lived"I think that's exactly what Oda is doing, since he loves found family so much.Shanks and Shamrock have the exact same DNA, but Shanks is a good person because he was raised by Roger and Shamrock is bad because he was raised by Garling.
>>284092603Loki is such a tsundere
>>284094883Sommers still has blonde hair. He just looks Scandinavian which makes him looks older with his ridiculous choice of glasses.
>>284094601Shamrock is probably almost as strong as Shanks, which means he is easily TOP10 in the world right now, probably TOP 5.And Gunko alone humilliated half the Strawhats in a matter of seconds.
>>284092582>I enjoy befriending sailors from all over the worldOhhhh no no no no no Cuckraldbros
>>284095296Nah, I blame Cell. He started the infinitely regenerating enemy trend.
>>284095241
>>284095195In one of the latest SBS Oda was asked if Queen is Franky's father. Oda refused to answer which confirmed it
I was rereading the flashback and noticed something. Pole Star is another name for Lodestar, and the main Lodestar IS the North Star.Lodestar is coincidentally the name of the final island before Laughtale.
>>284095316Red sunglasses for big bads are pretty nice, desu.
>>284092509>scanlators putting their headcanon in the translationI know it's very likely but come on
>>284095379Nice for baddies, but adds age
>>284095365yeah so what about it?
>>284095340Even OP characters can't regenerate from being completely de-atomized, they're more like Piccolo's regeneration which is what Cell's is based on but increased.
>>284095322I love my girl Gunko but she is shitting her pants if she gets pulled up on by the future world's strongest swordsman
>>284095195Was hinted at in one of the databooks a couple years back, anon.Oda finally confirmed it in the latest volume.Also Queen's real name is Scien.
>>284095406The first pair the Sommers wore when he got teleported in his underwear were much more refined, I like to think that the red sunglasses are for his "vacations".
>>284092603>>284092621loki is so fucking based...
>>284095433>Even OP characters can't regenerate from being completely de-atomizedMars implied the Gorosei could survive nuking Egghead with the Mother Flame reactor and all.
>>284095347That's before Jinbe's flashback where more information was revealed.
How many more chapters before we’re out of the flashback namek. This shit is getting close to being another wano.
>>284095414>>284095365Might be a hint towards Lodestar and what it's about.Greenland was found by vikings. It's where The North Pole is, our planet's loadstar where all compasses point. Often time in fiction "The Northern Lands" is some super inhospitable island full of strong icelandic warriors. Such as Golden Sun, DnD, I believe Frieren and Game of Thrones.Point being there's a chance Lodestar is the One Piece equivalent of Northern Lands or North Pole, and you can find it with viking knowledge/Elbaf knowledge just like Greenland. It may be the reason Adam wood is needed, normal ships have been sailing "The New World" so far, perhaps if Lodestar has super inhospitable icy seas and is a hellscape that's why only the best of the best ships could find it, why Elbaf could find it (Adam wood) to figure out the North Star navigation techniques, and how Roger passed it with his Oro Jackson.
>>284092621based Loki killing those SCUM.
If you identified as a man but were a biological woman would Sanji hit you?
>>284095560I want to stay in the flashback forever.
>>284095560>This shit is getting close to being another wano.not even remotely
>>284095596Is it because you want to see Sanji fight Yamato? I don't think he would
>>284095642of course he wouldn't, Sanji doesn't want to JOB...
>>284094438There's no definitive date for when Impel Down was built so I don't know what you mean by this
>>284095302>>284095347Either Oda forgot and he's going to retcon it via SBS by saying that Tiger disguised himself as a slave when he snuck back and freed the other slaves, or he actually got BTFO'd on his first attempt and became a slave for a few months after declaring he's going to free the slaves before being able to accomplish his goals.
>>284095560At least 3 or 4, still gotta return to the initial flashback and cover Harald's death, Loki's lie, and the theft of the "mysterious" devil fruit.
>>284095347>The FMI flashback starts 16 years ago>Hancock was freed when she was 16 (she's now 31), meaning the liberation happened 15 years ago.Imo it doesn't add up.
>>284095664once we learned about the world flooding, it became a possibility that the building itself for impel down was built hundreds of years ago when the water level was lowerthen at some point it could have been converted to a jail if it wasnt one from the beginning
>>284095696was meant for>>284095559
>>284092621my hero
>>284094923Yes, because he only cared about Xebec at the moment. Sanji as Garp is just a random dude for him.
>>284094438It's at least 100 years old, Ivan/Bon-chan's hideout was made by the faggot giant.
>>284092454Warcury looks psychotic here
>>284095715Exactly? I'm not trying to be funny here, I just don't know why you're emphasising 33 years ago when Morley escaped 100 years ago, nor what this has to do with San Juan Wolf
>>284095665Never mind, he did escape back to Fishman Island first before going back to free the slaves, guess Oda did forget and made him seemingly free the slaves on his first escape attempt.>>284092519>>284092532
>>284094254Never actually considered that Shanks would fight Shamrock and Garling. Do you think it would work well or be too shoehorned in that Luffy would fight side by side with his mentor / idol
>>284092548>>284092562Best Acting Award(awarded by Roger)
>>284094865This will likely be retconned in
>>284092473Garling reminds me a bit of Rayleigh here
SEX WITH LOKI
>>284095439Jinbe is supposed to be close to Sanji and Zoro, yet he was defeated by Gunko in seconds. I think people underestimate her power. Could Zoro beat her if he, conveniently, learns to use his haki? Maybe, but the fight would be way closer than what most people think.And coming back to Shamrock, he implied to Loki that him being fred out of his chains wouldn't make no difference, because Shamrock would beat him anyway. Of course, anybody could call that simply bravado, but Shamrock met Harald, who was as strong as Rocks, so he definitely knows the kind of power Loki can have and still thinks he is above him.Outside of Imu and Shanks, he can easily be the strongest person in the world.I can admit Sommers is pretty mid, but Shamrock and Gunko are genuinely strong characters.
>>284095454Yeah those were much better
>>284093257Based.>>284093870Cringe.
>>284094488>Japanese man thinks up cool stories about a cool samurai meeting a cool knightLove this shit.
>>284095835It would make sense. Or they could lose and then Luffy and crew would have to beat them showing they surpassed the Red Hair pirates without directly having them fight.
>>284092532Why were the Boa sisters slaves and not wives?
>>284094608>>284094636>Land whales are by far the most disgysting creatures in the world.Absolutely right brother. But Oda having Ginny lose interest for a more powerful man would teach young men/boys a harsh lesson about women's nature. Not supporting it at all, but am bringing awareness on what needs correcting.
>>284094709I didn't like Abyss as much as Symphonia but I do rank it higher than Vesperia and Graces F. It just didn't hit for me while Symphonia's Elf and Dwarf style fantasy was really my style. Lloyd is insanely based, and literally me.
>>284092509Otohime is criminally underrated.
>>284092519Only one swordsman can move that fast. Vista.
>>284094370>Who will save themStrawhat fleet lead by Loki
>>284092764Shamrock is going to turn out the good twin overall and he and Shanks have somehow switched bodies maybe Imu got confused
>>284096009Romeo became the prototype for Sanji. Interestingly Sanji acts like a knight/hero and is a loverboy just like Romeo. Sanji was likely the final result of Romeo.Shanks was also foretold to be a knight in one of the prototypes. And interestingly in another prototype Sanji was a gun slinger named Naruto. Of course there's also Sanji wearing a knight's helmet as a kid as punishment, his chivarly, and his flame armor.I wouldn't be surprised if Sanji gets domi reversi'd into a God Knight and is Zoro's opponent in Elbaf, ending the feud that started on a giant's island Little Garden, on another giant's island Elbaf. And the foreshadowing was Sanji telling Zoro to kill him if he ever turns evil back in Wano.
>>284094406Do you think Harold was so oblivious he didn't know about slaves before applying to join WG? Slavery is common knowledge, anyone can go to Sabaody and buy a slave.
>>284092509Is "mosa-mosa" an accurate translation or are they taking liberties?
>>284094478>beats the shit out of Gunko with his fists
>>284092621I’m sorry Katakuri… I’ve been fighting these feelings for so long but Loki just cemented himself as my new number one.
>>284096323mosa-mosa is not even translated
>>284092532Keep forgetting Hancock's other sister used to be hot before gorging herself into a fat tub of shit.
>>284094610Only if the sea king had conquerors haki
>>284092760Loki isn’t a chud, but keep not understanding life.
>>284096474Shanks coated the sea king's teeth with his own haki just a second before it bit.
>>284092978Nah, deep sea is the 13 God’s knights and abyssal is the Elder Stars.
>>284096474The Sea Kings are Mythical Beasts related to the god of Sea. Why do you Think Shirahoshi is a Mythical weapon? Just because she can order a bunch of snakes around?Fucking Oda is creating the MOTHER of all retcons right under your nose. And I'm NOT Happy about this shit. Shanks(actually Shamrock all along) is going to have his arm cut off on purpose on chapter 1, oh no man, where have we gotten to?
>>284092582Why does she look like Spongebob here?
>>284096323It should be the original word. Though I'm sure I've seen some post that when Roger called her Shaggy he used moja-moja and not mosa-mosa which can be a pun.
>>284094853The Elders Stars have the “deep deep” sea one (which is actually a mistranslation, it’s supposed to be read as “Abyssal”)
>>284096323
>>284092760>Muh trans boogieman!Touch grass.
>>284094577The fact that Shanks consistently acts the same way with Buggy as they did when they were both Roger pirates shows that its the same person. Him dressing more closed up while Shamrock is more open is just visually showing that Shanks has to something to hide while Shamrock lays it all bear.>>284094610Considering Harold didn't have regen hax when he died its obvious whatever the first stage is doesn't give you all the hax abilities the higher tiers does.>>284094633There's nothing the World can do to the King of the Underworld
>>284094290Source?>>284094210Characters like Monet and Yasuie were killed off.
>>284094666Chances of them not swapping places is very low at this point. And real Shanks doesn't have to be evil, they might as well both be good, it remains to be seen. If they switched places, scar could be self-inflicted. Or it could be a completely different scar that Shamrock got later.>>284094686Twist for the sake of a twist is something I would expect from Oda.
>>284094689I forget who was it again that first came up with the theory, I think it was that DawnDusk jap but it could've been someone else
>>284094488Oda had some kind of lore in his head for Rubber back when he started before he switched to the sun to be all nippon
>>284092621>that Loki silhouette panelC I N E M A
>>284094017The scumbag King of Kuma’s home?
>>284095168>That would make the Elders look even dumber.You're making a big assumption that they knew Shanks stole the Gomu Gomu, if I remember from Whos Whos crying session it didn't seem like he knew who took it, just that it was stolen and as result they jailed his ass for it.
>>284094019Speedreader, it’s obvious that Harald is putting up a facade and is playing a long con to try and find out what Rocks knew about the world.
>>284096648Wait for Monet to return after a short coma where its revealed Law did something to the heart so the stab wasn't fatal and she only spat up some blood coz of the impact of the stab
Buggy's doing the Nika Dance, just wait he's going to be revealed to be a god also down the line
>>284096613Thanks!
>>284096682The spirit of the tree plot makes me think that the spirit in the Merry was the spirit of the Adam Tree, and it's going to be in the Sunny too. And when it said "I wanted to go on one more adventure with you" it was a double meaning because it also wanted to go on one more adventure with Joyboy.
>>284094768I thought the shallow contract was just verbal and didn't carry any supernatural meaningHarald didn't even meet ImuWhat would be the purpose of cutting your own arm off at that specific point in time?
>>284095099There is still a lot we don’t know about Imu, she could have been close to Joy Boy.
>>284096777If it's a binding to Imu even if it doesn't grant regen.
>>284095099Imu is obviously Leviathan and the “Sea God”
>>284096758Since when were you under the impression that Buggy D. Clown was just a meme?He keeps growing in power while acting like a clown because that's the Inherited Will inherent to his name
>>284094210Big Meme and the Kaido aren't dead.>>284094285This + the fact that Luffy said he'd beat Kaido FIRST then come back and beat Big Mom, its obvious she isn't dead. Not to mention her unresolved dealings with the giants, and the fact that she never lost consciousness (i.e. still has her constant CoC armor) when she hell into the lava.
>>284094676The 13 individuals are clearly the God’s Knights. It’s just like Bleach and Kingdom Hearts.
>>284094836Oda forgot
>>284096591>(which is actually a mistranslation, it’s supposed to be read as “Abyssal”)What did it say originally?
>>284092509If it is Shirahoshi then Loki would have to leave the island and join Luffy's crew to save her especially if BB is involved
>>284096758True, but it's a very intuitive pose if we're being fair.
>>284096809Well there's that and that one line Oda made him say about being " The Pirate God", and his fruit being an inverse to Luffy's early on. There's no limits to how high our Star Clown will climb
>>284095301Again with this? The God’s Knights are clearly the One Piece version of the Gotei 13 (who were supposed to be the bad guys of an imperial japan esque government but Kubo pussied out) One Piece is like Bleach if it never backpedaled on it’s revolutionary and anti-establishment commentary like Bleach did by white washing the Soul Society.
>>284095249Stop looking for dumb reasons to shit on Oda and trust the plan.
>>284096937Enlighten me on powers autism, why is Buggy's fruit a parallel to Luffy's?
>>284093882>Actual OP fans can recognize Oda brainfarts and accept them as what they areSuch as…? If you aren’t going to give a valid criticism, shut up.
>>284096941Bleach wasn't even original. The entire Soul Society arc was copied from Saint Seiya's Sanctuary arc. The 13 zodiac captains, running through their territory to save their female friend from being executed, the entire thing being a plot by one of the captains who was manipulating everyone the entire time, confronting this manipulative dick on the cliff at the end of the arc, fucking EVERYTHING. Kubo even admitted he copied Sanctuary arc. Because his ass was about to get cancelled for copying the plot of Yuyu Hakoshu but Toriyama saved him so he decided to copy another manga instead.
>>284094607It’s been made clear since FMI in the Fisher Tiger flashback that him “climbing up the Red Line with his bare hands” was a lie and he was actually a slave that was already up in Mary Geosie that broke out and simple set fire to the CD houses to help slaves escape.
>>284096937>Will never happen>Blackbeard exits
>>284095830No, he never “climbed up the Red Line with his barehands” that was a lie to inspire people.
>>284097134Shnaks got his scar from BB. Now either BB climbed up the red line with his metal claws and helped FT. Or an injured Shanks climbed bare-handed and decided to help the fleeing FT for some long game plan he had.
>>284096863Abyssal? Did you not understand my wording?
>>284093463Opposites attract. Loki may be such an extreme personality that it suspends Shirahoshis shyness.
>>284096749Keep gaslighting.
>>284097224In Japaese.
>>284095091I genuinely love stupid shit like that
>>284092415>No oden
>>284097214Or the “climbing up Red Line with bare hands” part never truly happened.
>>284093882>Actual OP fansActual OP fans already know the ending of the manga.
>>284097244And Oda will keep bringing people back from the dead unless they've got a gravstone.
>>284093882Don't you see that the problem isn't the the child is doing something, but that it's being used against their will?The whole point of One Piece is that those who sides with pirates cares about freedom. And if an 8 year old deliberately chooses to work because they like it, it's in their freedom to do that.If anything, Iceburg having a loli secretary shows that there is freedom of choice as it is implied that Iceburg is not exploiting the kid at all. It's allowing the kid to do whatever it wants.
>>284097296Or it did and it wasn't Fisher Tiger. The more absurd or fantastic boasts in OP world usually come out true.