>watched yesterdayoregairu is a hella disappointing anime thats pretty much just boomer advice in pretty packaging. hachimans personality fell off a cliff after season 1oregairu pushes the idea of opening urself up to others. hachiman refused to do it because he had a fixation on 'genuine' interaction and wouldnt settle for anything less. oregairu is about dismanting hachiman's disarrayed thought process since it interfered with his desire for connection. the message the viewer is supposed to get out of it is choose friendship/relationships over being a broody loner. this message comes across as pretty dismissive of the ppl who this advice is meant for because most ppl are not like hachiman. hachiman is a terrible example to use for this since he has friendship/relationships handed on a silver spoon to him but he just says no to it all. a good amount of the ppl this advice is meant for are in their situation because despite their best efforts no friends/relationships come out of it and the anime's message feels like its framing this as a personal failure when reality is that its just the system working against them
>>284097969Ehh, you'll probably grow out of it too.
>>284097969I want to have sex with Iroha Isshiki
>>284097969This guy's a highscooler? Looks like an ojisan.
It still hurts
>>284097969I have schizoid personality disorder, so this probably does apply to me.But I don't care.
>>284097969I might be smoothbrained but I could hardly understand what was going on half the time
>>284100643she never had a chance anon, good girls always lose. she was too nice and choose to step aside.
>>284100643This is a nice shot of her mom's tits.
>>284102047because they were just yapping 80% of the time
>>284097969It's very hard to find an anime about a lonely MC, despite Japanese people themselves being very lonely.
>>284102047totally reasonable, it rushes through a lot of hachiman's important inner monologues from the LN. no clue how anyone could watch the anime alone and understand without guessing
>>284097969Was this that anime with a trap everyone in-universe wants to bang?
>>284100643>>284103012I'd feel a lot worse for her if she didn't need to be told like FIVE FUCKING TIMES AND STILL DOESN'T GET IT AT THE END!
>>284100643Hurts that this garbage character dragged the quality down.
>>284104699What do you mean very hard? It's impossible. Name me two anime with a lonely MC.
>>284106386>AND STILL DOESN'T GET IT AT THE END!If 8man anfd Yukino break up I relaly want to know how fast she'd try to hop into 8man's bed.
>>284107001She'd just have to "accidentally" run into him at night to make an attempt.
>>284097969>watched yesterdayeach anime is meant to be watched during its original airing period. Therefore, your opinion doesn't matter a shit and this thread should be omited
>>284100643She was supposed to win. Yukino didn't even have feelings for 8man until the last quarter of the last volume. It reeks of editor meddling.
>>284101785Based.
>>284107075Each anime is meant to be watched just so you read the original much better material.
I hate Yukino so much it's unreal. She did nothing to deserve anything but gets everything she wants in the end. She didn't work for it, or struggle for it.
>>284107791She was a better personality match for 8man in every way. Saying she "did nothing to deserve anything" is like a toddler saying life isn't fair because of chance encounters
is it true ww completely stopped writting and dropped yui's route? kek
>>284107868>Yukino gets everyone she wants because she makes 8man's peepee harderIt's bullshit. Might as well just have Yui move on since nothing she did mattered in the end.
>>284106416last scenes of angel beats
>>284106416> Name me two anime with a lonely MC.Ok>3gatsu no Lion>Shigatsu wa kimi no UsoBut yea, it's not very common, though a lot of Japanese are as lonely as you can get. It's very strange this trope isn't more popular. I guess anime is indeed nothing more than escapism and Japanese people don't like to see themselves.
It's been 5 years and I'm still not over it. Fuck.
>>284108282>>>>>Your Lie In AprilShame on you for even mentioning it.
>>284108543Yui is a shit friend.
>>284109160She did everything fort 8man and Yukino and suffered for it. She is a great friend and continues to support them regardless of how cruel they were to her.
>>284097969This shit just wish-fulfillment slop for bitter losers. It might pretend to be deep ad philosophical but at the end the day, it’s just slop.
>>284109199She is a liar. She is shallow. She continuously tried to worm her way into 8man's affection. She deserved to suffer.
>>284108282>Akari, the oldest of the three girls, is determined to combat Rei's loneliness and poorly sustained lifestyle with motherly hospitality.I don't think you understood the assignment.
>>284109199I'd have preferred it if she was the MC and we followed her perspective and how she fails to get the boy she likes.
>>284097969zoomers did it better desu
>>284110060Rei is still a lonely character but it speaks volumes that the most prominent example of a lonely protag is wish fulfillment.
>>284110074It'd make a lot more sense. I didn't get that Yui had feelings for 8man until late in the second series.
>>284110196It's the exact reason I like and hate 8man, he is shown to be his own worst enemy but the show also constantly bails him out of the holes he digs for himself just so it can have a happy end.
>>284097969It makes more sense in Japanese culture where everybody wears masks.
>>284097969Agree that it went to shit after 1st season.
>>284108543>likes him from the 1st ep and even before that>took 3 seasons to do anything>supposed to feel sorry for hershe had a 7-1 leadit's like being reborn as an isekai MC and still losing to some native world character
Tldr zoomer lacks media literacy We get it you're born retarded Kill yourself
>>284097969A sigma male like Hachiman would have been happier with Saika.
>>284110985>draw a girl>call it a boyThey can't keep getting away with this
Growing up you realize how fucking pathetic the 8man is I mean lmao
>>284111494If you ever thought he was cool you were a retard.
>>284097969>boomer advice
>>284111321Well, at least we're not trolled like in Haganai>draw a girl>call it a boy>make it dress like a girl>no, scratch that>it's actually a girl>now, she dresses like a boyWe were messed with hardWhy they even do it? Is it some kind of quirky japanese joke
>>284097969I don't like 8man's development. It fits the typical happy end most shows have but there was a genuine chance to have a decent "bad" end for once. He is an intriguing and relatable character but around the end of season 2 turns into a normalfag. Just fuck the teacher after graduation dammit.
>>284113553people don't respond well to bad ends unless the MC is a real asshole who deserves it
>>284097969OP is right in a way. The show is actually very shallow. >just bee urself! :-)Except everything including girls just falls in his lap. Wow how easy life would be if everything was at your fingertips and all you had to do was "learn to open up".I don't think there has ever been an anime that did a good job of depicting a loner (especially a below-to-average looking one) climbing up from the depths of school society Hell and making it in the end.
>>284111321>short hair>flatLooks like a boy to me
I hate that stupid anime and the insufferable characters in it. The girls are obnoxious, there's a trap and the "just b urself" shitty normalfag advice. Actual reddit anime.
>>284098429Same, and the little sister. Maybe even at the same time. Especially if she were my real little sister.
>>284106315Viewers lusted for the trap in this but I don't think it was universal. If you mean in-universe the closest I can think of is Baka Test, where the trap character was openly treated as a separate thing from the boys and girls, pretty much universally lusted after, and if I remember correctly subject of a joke where someone confessed to his twin sister and then took it back because he thought he was confessing to the trap.
>>284115521Wow, it’s almost as if he was entirely correct.
>>284102047>why is he sad>why is she mad>what is going onEven after going through reddit threads, I still had no idea what was going on. Fuck my autist life.
>>284100643Its unreal how fucking bad season 3 is
>>284097969>boomer adviceIt's kinda like >>284107075 said. There are lessons to take from it, but it's not written by some self-help huckster so it's not like it's trying to be universally relatable. If you consider the context, it's about (and for) Japanese kids who were in high school in the early 2010s. Some of it would have been difficult to relate to in the West even contemporaneously, so I don't know why it would be a surprise that it would be unrelatable for the lost generation of kids who wound up socially stunted from losing crucial socially formative years to covid taking them out of classrooms.
>>284110201>I didn't get that Yui had feelings for 8man until late in the second series.you're stupid.
>>284116734Being desperate or craving for a relationship that isn’t blatantly fake or forced is hardly some abstract concept. I understood that in high school in 2010. Most people can probably still understand that it’s hurtful to have someone be courteous because they feel they have to be, or worse, doing it because they pity you
>>284097969It's incel wish fulfillment
>>284110060You asked anime with lonely MCs
>>284114197The irony is that there is, WatamoteBut it just ends up gloomy, depressing and overly defeatist so no one ends up talking about and it's unpopular (heh)You have to spin a positive bright tale of growth when it comes to loner stories.
>>284116907Sure, I mean hell, I was in high school almost ten years before you and understood this shit just fine. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt here because I've watched so much stuff become so unapologetically fake over the last twenty years. The cancer was always there, but you couldn't always see the tumors through the skin.
The advice is legit, it’s just that the people who are lonely are fundamentally more retarded these days. 8man doesn’t reject most friendships, he is pretty much just a dickhead by choice because he hides his nice guy side through layers of bullshit. You say he has friendships handed to him on a silver platter but most friendships are made by happenstance and interaction. There isn’t a formula to follow, especially in high school. He is also part of a help kids club, the fact he doesn’t have many friends in spite of this altruistic work is an indictment against your claim.
>>284116907
>>284117682>You say he has friendships handed to him on a silver platter but most friendships are made by happenstance and interaction.Yeah I don't know what tricks people think there is to making friendships, that kind of shit just sort of falls into place. I met one of my longest friends because he liked my Spider-man t-shirt in 2nd grade.
So, is this series over for good? What was the last thing that was released again?
>>284117763
Also wanting something genuine is a valid desire, but having the well poisoned by your future high school gf’s older sister is pretty funny and stupid. Haruka has no business manipulating high schoolers on their campus, she is a major loser for that and quite pathetic. Yukino is also easily the biggest bitch in the series that is only revered and admired by 8man in the weirdest case of oneitis. Her prickly nature is grating and annoying. She is objectively the worst LI in the series and a match for 8man. Almost every major issue he deals with romantically is due to her cowardice. Yui would be easy to handle and Sensei is way hotter, along with Kawasaki and Iroha. Blonde bitch is also better.
>>284117763Season 1 was good. Everything else got progressively worse because the second director over fixated on his retard loser girl waifu to a point were it felt the actual main heroine barely showed up.
>>284117743Right? You just need to be around people and not actively avoid interacting with them, though I guess a big part of the problem is that there are fewer situations that force you to be around people and modern technology makes it so that people are far less likely to interact even in the same room.
>>284117743There are memes of extroverts adopting introverts in their friend group, people bonding over hobbies, or just shooting the shit one day over nothing. Clubs, gyms, sports or other interests are avenues to meet more people. Plenty of things start with simple compliments or statements that snowball into a conversation. The people that believe it’s complicated or formulaic are those who cope with social autism or people who see everything as a social network, which can easily be done by just acting without super high inhibition. >>284117763I think the last thing was a VN where you can date anyone and a special where Yui still tries.
>>284097969Grats youre loser #348926 to realize that jap writing is bullshit that fails in the face of scrutiny and also realistic takesLook man the only thing Japs can write properly is effort and risk. Either the MC actually does something right or they either die or look awkward with a girl. The rest is all just whining about how the world isnt right and theyre gonna change it while they conveniently find the people and means to do so. You have to adapt you have to learn and you have to change yourself.
>>284118182>>284118156I'll grant there's probably a world of difference between having a friend of convenience and vicinity and someone you'd say truly gets you, a comrade, if you will but that's more or less a weeding process. Nobody is going to just GET you and in a lot of cases you'll end up changing just as much to fit them as they did you without you realizing. It comes from shared experiences over time. Looking back on a hardass teacher, events, etc. It's not something you can force and you have to actually get out there and try it and not write people off because they annoy you once.
>>284097969It's fun if you're a retarded high schooler. Growing up is realizing you were retarded and that show is fucking stupid trash.
>>284117059Sure but Tomoko ends up with a friend group that is more or less on her wavelength, plus a kohai that looks up to her, a popular girl who dotes on her, a schoolmate who probably is a raging lesbian for her, and an old friend who likes seeing her whenever the authors remember she exists (not komi). Even if it's cynical she landed into the same old patterns
>>284118182>The people that believe it’s complicated or formulaic are those who cope with social autism or people who see everything as a social network, which can easily be done by just acting without super high inhibition.I don't understand what you mean. Could you elaborate?
so, what's the new oregairu? chiramune? what other LN are popular these days?
>>284118182>which can easily be done by just acting without super high inhibition. That is a lot easier said than done. Dismantling your inhibitions seems like a Herculean task.
i literally become 8man so i think it's accurate
>>284122453Normalfag
>>284117007I want to live my angst years again, give me the most depressing and lonely MC you can think of without a traditional good ending.
>>284121369>Could you elaborate?Don't be a dickhead
>"Is that a girl... being polite to me?">"Fucking fake bitch how dare you be nice to me???? Truth is you fucking hate me huh? you fuckingf fake bitch"8man unironically deserved to be bullied in highschool.
>>284125621He was bullied in middle school, not in high school. People just avoided him in high school because he's a fucking asshole.
>>284125621Don’t think 8mam believes nice girls are bitches, he just thought a girl liked him and got salty that he wasn’t special to a girl. Most guys in his position believe niceness from a girl is a pass at them when it’s just being nice. He admits he is a sucker, but is delusional about other things.
I'd prefer if he had picked Komachi
>>284097969Don't know, don't care. At least Saika Totsuka came out of this shit.
>>284126550Its irrelevant if it is or not if you like it you be a man and ask her out. But beta jap knowledge will push your mentality in a direction that you should get all in your feelings and worries first before just telling her what you think and she shouls come with youAbsolute poison is all that is.
Just finished this today. I flew through season 1 but after the girls got mad at his fake confession ins season 2 it become a melodramatic slog. Personality was totally different from season 1 for basically all characters. Have no idea why this show is rated so highly.
>>284123022I heard Punpun is something like that. Never read it though.
>>284126741>Its irrelevant if it is or not, if you like it you be a man and ask her out.Commas exist for a reason.
>>284128444Now that you mention it I guess you are right, Punpun does get the pusspuss in the end but it isn't really a happy end.
>>284121755As far as HS romcom goes, Makeine and Roshidere.
>>284110157Is season 2 worth watching? S1 was fun
>>284097969boy
>>284110985draw a boy, call him my husband.
>>284126686(ToT)suka
>>284130087S2 is, in fact, not fun.
>>284097969Is this anime good to watch if I hate myself? Or will it make it worse.
>>284131461Yeah sure
>>284129870those might be good hs romcoms but they're nothing like oregairu
>>284097969The gloomy little girl was the secret best girl.
>>284100643Hachiman is an idiot
>>284097969>this message comes across as pretty dismissive of the ppl who this advice is meant forThis sounds like it's meant for me though. I can easily get friends, but I just don't feel like it.
>>284097969Most boomers would never sit you down and explain even half of the social dynamics in this show.
>>284135681It's not like he can't do that now. In the after story she's still after him.
It could’ve been kino
>>284136432AI slop unrelated?
