Just make a likable main character, it's that easy.
kill yourself narutard
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>>284118619I never disliked Uzumaki Naruto, but I never cared for Naruto because of Uzumaki Naruto.
Then why is MHA popular?
>>284121820likeable secondary characters
>>284121820It was clearly not meant as a two-way implication.
>>284121837MHA barely has secondary characters. The majority of them are just a name and a power.
>>284118619is Kishimoto a complete retard? It's never the main character but the side characters, they always draw people in and it's the reason why they stick with the series
>>284121820most people like deku. even /a/ liked deku before the series got too popular to be liked here.
>>284121820Women really like Bakugo.
>>284122277>>284122519Eh, people in general really like Endeavor and Shoto, Deku is popular with children, a myriad of hot chicks will always sell, and Bakugo makes the fujoshis wet, I say if anything MHA was really good at appealing to the general audience.
>>284118619I never liked Naruto since a kid through. He’s just annoying and his hokage thing was a side plot to his Sasuke obsession. Kishimoto admitted if it wasn’t for Sasuke he wouldn’t know what to do with the story.
>>284118619lol, Naruto worked because of all secondary characters that supported Narutardit all went to shit in Shippuden because Kishi decided to throw them all away and concetrate on Naruto and Gaysuke
>>284118619>taking squid 8 guy's advice on manga
>>284121820Ao3
>>284118739God I wish mods were this based.Moot the fucking nigger killed /a/
>>284121820Most people (as in non-/a/ schizos) like Deku.
>>284122519I always love the ol' "/a/ hates it because it's popular" cope as if /a/ on average doesn't love some series that have received universal praises and financial success. But everytime some shit happens to be popular and someone on /a/ shits on it it's suddenly because the board culture dictates it.
>>284122473The main character is the one that gets the most screentime and is the one who props up all the other characters.
>>284123012>Deku is popular with childrenShounen is meant for children.
>>284118619No it depends on writer ability. It doesn’t matter if the ideas are good if the result is limited or wasted by a poor writer it will be shit regardless. Good writers can pull off ideas even if they’re shit in the planning stage.
>>284123035The secondary characters barely did anything even in Part 1.
>>284123316>/a/ hates it because it's popularThat's how it is. Frieren is the one of the most recent examples that blatantly show this. As soon as the anime became very popular it got endless shit on. /a/ didn't hate it before.
>>284123012I couldn't get into MHA because it had too many useless characters. Doesn't matter how cool or likable a character is if they don't actually do anything that impacts the story.
>>284118619Did he learned this the hard way after making his second MC the most boring guy?>>284121820Deku and the side cast were really good until he became a>I don't want to kill the demonsTier crybaby somewhere around My Villain Academia arc
the key is clean art and a good side cast people can have shipping fights over
>>284118619Doesn't exist
>>284121820The audience for shonen manga is wider than loud manchildren.Deku , Bakugo and Naruto might seem generic to you but they're beloved character archetypes.
>>284121820Deku has a huge ass fanbase too, being a stand in dorky loser with self insert privileges does that for you.
>>284123012>Eh, people in general really like Endeavor and ShotoOnly women and I haven't seen any big shouto followings compared to deku and bakugouz its the females that get the attention and fan art from males.
>>284121820Bakugo is the main character.
>>284118619It actually is and it pisses me off how mangaka who write harem stories have such a hard time writing a good MC when he is half the reason to read the manga, since he is the driving force of the whole thing.
>>284118619Too bad his successor made every character in boruto unlikeable
>>284125242but all the boruto characters have that ohio skibbidy rizz. sarada is the hottest manga character in a decade.
>>284125202The MC in a harem has to be generic enough to be relatable. You can't take his personality too far in any direction, because you'll alienate people who aren't like that.
>>284125338Which is why harem usually sucks.
>>284118619What happened to Samurai 8 then?
>>284121820fujos like bakugofaggots self insert as deku
>>284118739back when jannies were based instead of coming straight from r/anime
>>284118619I've always hated Naruto but I still read the series.
>>284123035Let me guess, you also think Naruto was about le heckin hardworkerino and your favorite character is Rock Lee and you feel he "got wasted", right?
>>284123422Will Sasuke retrieval arc was epic and used the side character well
>>284118619>naruto>likable
>>284129179There's literally nothing else to read it forThe side characters basically get zero screentime, so if you're not interested in Naruto himself, there's nothing to like about the series
>>284130050NTA but I liked the story itself with Naruto but the actually character doesn’t click with me. I dont know if that makes sense or not but I have no idea how else to explain it
>>284125338>>284125602No, you absolutely dont need to do this. Its just the greedy corporate slop faggot way to maximize potential customers. There have been plenty of harem leads in fiction that have personalities. Rance is the go-to example.
>>284130179You like the power system and the story itself but are neutral to the MC.
Why are we forgetting the countless complaints about Kishimoto hating Naruto when the manga was releasing
>>284118619>likable main characterUh oh, CSM bros... our response?
>>284121820Fujos are subhumans who will eat any garbage put in front of them so long as it has 2 or more male characters they can imagine being in gay abusive relationships. Shonentards are the same, but instead of fag abuse it's aerial fistfights. Coomers like the women (and who can blame them?). That's it, that's the whole appeal. It also came out in the same rough period as OPM, when everyone was getting tired of Western capeslop played straight. It was different and people liked it for that. But that was before we knew how much of a hack the writer was, before we'd find out how he'd tank his own series.
>>284130469>But that was before we knew how much of a hack the writer was, before we'd find out how he'd tank his own series.Anyone with a fucking brain and basic understanding of storytelling could see this with explosion faggot being a shitty vegeta, Deku being a fucking limp wristed faggot, and the main power being super stength/speed which is literally the standard side upgrade to every god damn shonen ever and thus was impossible to keep interesting for the full duration of the series. I called that last part specifically at the start of the dogshit series and got told I was a faggot retard. Then guess what? I was right and Deku got more asspull powers, to which those same people lapped up and pretended it was a good thing.MHA is DBZ/Nardo for zoomers in that they ignore the numerous flaws because they are too young at the time to have enough storytelling experience to spot the red flags. Except that DBZ and Nardo had some more charm/foundation to it, MHA had nothing.
>>284130946For as much as people meme on Naruto for spamming Shadow Clones and Rasengan, self-duplication is pretty uncommon as the "main power" for a protagonist, and it has a lot of creative or visually interesting applications
Can’t deku turn bakugo into a skid mark by the end of the series
>>284131030Yea. Like, even early Naruto had foundational flaws (log no jutsu for asspulls, for example). But it was still pretty solid overall. It just started to progressively shit the bed the longer timeskip dragged on with a bunch of questionable storytelling decisions and escalating powerlevels. But the foundation itself is solid overall. If you wipe timeskip entirely and come up with something different, pretimeskip can still work just fine
>>284118619Did he mean fuckable main character?
Why wasnt Sasuke a girl?
>>284125338Then why are most harem MCs ultra-submissive herbivorous doormats who instantly alienate red-blooded males?
>>284122519>>284123316I’ve been on MHA threads since the first chapter dropped. It was very much liked and Deku was beloved as an absolute madman at the start. It’s not until the anime started gaining traction and the second Deku vs. Bakugou fight that the threads began to rot and Deku began to be hated here.
>>284125242It's actually incredible how unlikable Boruto is.He was unlikable for being an entitled overachieving little shit in the pre-timeskip, but all likability was drained from in in Two Blue Vortex and now he's just a completely unlikable dick.
>>284132605They aren't, that's a memeThe difficulty in writing male leads is that you have to strike a balance to avoid alienating half of your potential fanbase. A lot of people would refuse to engage with the story if the male lead was forward and bold and generally red-blooded, because they'd be totally unable to relate to that due to being shy and timid in their teen years. Likewise, if you write your male lead to be hopelessly awkward and unable to talk normally to girls, you'll alienate people who can't relate to being such a loser. Really, you should understand male leads in this genre to be self-inserts in bad disguises. They aren't generally compelling or fleshed-out characters in their own right - the rom-com you like best will usually be the one where the protagonist is most similar to yourself as a young man.You can't make them too red-blooded or too submissive, you have to find a middle ground that everyone can relate to
>>284129816What does "ALEpl mean?
>>284118619That’s what make chainsawman so strange I don’t like that little jit denji but I’m quite fond of the overall series
>>284127260Well clearly it had a bad protagonist. In no way him producing one contradicts the statement he made. The issue however is that simply saying just make a good MC lol isn't an actionable piece of advice
>>284118619>perpetual loser who failed ninja school multiple times and cant even do basic bitch clones>10 seconds later can all of a sudden make a thousand advanced level clonesDropped this shit on chapter 1
>>284135539Well, that's not the whole quote>“In the end, whatever the manga’s like, if readers fall in love with the main character, they’re gonna read it. When thinking about how you can make your character likable, think about your own best friends – what makes you like them? Why do you enjoy being around them? This should give you some hints.”
>>284131568What was his problem?
>>284118619The more I read Naruto the more I realize its popularity is miraculous.It is a series that is riding off aesthetic alone, everything else ranges from mediocre to shit.
>>284135582> failed school multiple times> still the same age of all his classmatesBravo kishi
I don't even think Kishi likes Naruto that much. If he actually respected him that much, he wouldn't have canonically given him a small dick, an ugly face, and an ugly character design overall—unlike his rival Sasuke, who is glazed by women both in the anime and in real life and has the best character design in the whole series
>>284136366This always bothered me especially since this is the one thing that no one ever brings up when talking about retcons or other poor story elements of Naruto.
>>284122519People liked Deku before the anime gave him an annoying voice and instead of skipping the pages you had to sit through five minutes of him crying about bullshit.
