What are your honest thoughts on Amazon's AI dubbing shenanigans?https://x.com/OtakuSpirited/status/1994598770202611749 Gonna be a buck fifty with you, I unironically welcome this. I've never watched dubs ever in my life, and this will destroy the dubbing scene since they bypass the cabals with these shitty AIs and alienate normalfags with how shit they are.And of course, it would be a chilly day in hell before japs ever do something like this so I have nothing to worry about.
It honestly isn't much worse than most dubs.
I avoid dubs as a rule, but I hate the precedent that accepting fully generated AI voices sets more. I don't even want this shit in Youtube videos
>>284134750This was my first thought. There were a lot of dubs in the 90s that sounded just like this.But I can't see it replacing the English dub scene for quite a while (unfortunately). AI dubs are most likely only going to be utilized for low-population languages that don't already get dubs, at least until the technology improves.
>>284134640>>284134750I actually think Japan should use AI to dub English-speaking moments. Can't convince me that a supposed native speaker has a heavy engrish accent.
>>284134640It's bad to the point of being absurd.>>284134832Kill la Kill dub is gold standard. Maybe in another few tears AI will be able to produce that kind of delivery.
so you want actors who don't exist?
>>284134640Every person who played a part in this decision should have their fingernails removed, grow them back, and then removed again
>>284134640My honest thoughts is that I don't give a shit.>b-butI read the entire previous thread and not a single post explained how would this affect anime in any way, if anything it might bring a few good positives with it, that's about it.
>>284134895I find it charming Infinitely better than a soulless imitation
>>284134832>acceptingNot the same as genuinely not giving a single shit about something.>I don't even want this shit in Youtube videosIt's been a thing for a long time already, the problem here is that youtube make it the main audio by default, I have to change the language of the entire page all the time for this bullshit, making an option button for this cannot be that hard to make.
It would have been cool if One Piece's Franky VA had worked a deal to keep Franky's gimmick voice lines as AI.OP's dialogue is so flat that AI could easily replace the VAs. Just make sure their families keep getting paid for the usage of their voices, like Robin Williams' daughter.
>>284134640It's fucking horrible, and I don't even watch dubs.
>it would be a chilly day in hell before japs ever do something like this so I have nothing to worry aboutyou got me thinkingamerican dub actors really aren't respected at all are they?
>>284134640I just think anyone trying to push AI should be shot
>>284134640>dubsI don't care.
>>284134640>dubs Not my problem. If you're a dubfag you deserve it
>>284134640I'll take AI dubs over localizers maliciously shitting things up.
>>284134640They sound barely a hair's breadth away from Microsoft Sam kekhttps://files.catbox.moe/xzucmv.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/me4p4h.mp4No Game No Life (and apparently Vinland Saga) also got an AI dub btwhttps://files.catbox.moe/3t57g5.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/ot4g9c.mp4First NGNL (human) dub for comparisonhttps://files.catbox.moe/y3iyhp.mp4
>>284134640>And of course, it would be a chilly day in hell before japs ever do something like thisNah, the greedy faggots at companies like Kadokawa would absolutely do something like this if they thought they could get away with it.
>>284135220This is so fucking bad, holy shit. >it's dubs, who caresDon't think for a fucking second that this level of quality won't seep into subs too.>>284135208That'll still happen.
>>284135208you're getting both but thank you for your complacency
>>284135272Cool story bro, let us know when it happens.
>>284134895Engrish in anime is for a Japanese audience, it doesn't need to sound like the genuine article.
>>284134640I'd be fine with them if they sounded good.They sound bad, so I'm not fine with them.Simple as.
>>284134640Fine by me. Looking forward to already dubbed shows getting AI dubs and telling dubfags the AI dub was better.
>>284134640Dubs shouldn't exist at all but since that is unrealistic having them be shat out by soulless machines is the next best thing.
I'm happy about this cuz it's fucking hilarious and it's causing my political enemies to suffer. It's a win win situation for me.
>>284135220This is actually the worst dub I have ever heardIt really is incredible that all of the largest corperations in existence have come to the unanimous conclusion that they have no reputation to maintain and there will be no consequence for trying to fuck the customer at every turn
>>284134640Of course the dubs are bad. They trained it on american anime dubs. Garbage in, garbage out.
>>284134640You're a fucking idiot if you think everything AI is shit. For the love of Christ educated yourself on the topic before running your God damned mouth. AI improves dramatically every fuckiny year you retarded fucking disgusting worthless braindead piece of God damn shit.
>>284135591I remember there's a japanese guy on YouTube (Sora the Troll) who says he has to use Engrish to get other Japanese to realize he's speaking English and not just faking it.
>>284137356For some of us it's not about how nice it sounds, we just really hate AI for completely unrelated reasons
>dub
>>284137356AIfags, ladies and gentlemen.
>>2841373565 bucks says this post was AI generated.
>>284135086Anime dubbing pays so poorly the only people willing to do it are actors so shitty they can't get ANY other gigs, while real actors consider it embarrassing to have on their resumes.
>>284137580Its the opposite actually, it is given to z-list ecelebs that know the producers, in hopes to give them more visibility for better gigs. Its a scam industry made for nepo babies and generally awful people to make a theoretical out of ruining shit you like. So if you support it in any way, kill yourself.
>>284135032>Not the same as genuinely not giving a single shit about something.Not giving a single shit about something is giving a free pass for it to keep doing what it's doing. Apathy is the death of culture.
>>284137612Incompetent fucks doing bad dubs of things I like do in no way ruin things I like.
>>284134640As long as Funi gets fucked by this, I'm fine with it. The US dub industry is one fucking company, using the same 10 assholes who huff each other's farts.
>>284137614Killing dubs? Oh no...
>>284137356Saar...
>another thread >>284126498I can't believe AI spamming samefagging janny hasn't been fired yet.https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/283830835https://desuarchive.org/a/search/image/vX8f5YxyFOYZZRNDuCYdVw/https://desuarchive.org/a/search/image/jyPbaMNu4y1sG7POrEa9TQ/https://desuarchive.org/a/search/image/i3Rz1X8NefG7Ez4tQCSoPQ/https://desuarchive.org/a/search/image/z5Fi_Ugbw29CCz-k_uMiVw/https://desuarchive.org/a/search/image/UWkI3UfgtwfFlo7NG77v7Q/https://desuarchive.org/a/search/image/oqQWDlExozA-p2Tdbw43Xg/His threads are still unreportable and you can be banned for reporting them.
>>284134640>dubs
>>284136679>my political enemieswhoa whoa whoa, are you a politician? because plebeians like us dont have "political enemies" just people who we disagree with on political stances. Most politicians are not even loyal to their own beliefs, one day you see them saying shit against something, the next day they turned around on a dime and suddenly deny themselves, and those people you "fought with" and you are still buttmad, while politicians dont bat an eye.But yeah, I know what you are saying, translators and VAs that heard the "calling to correct anime" just had a FAFO (Fuck Around & Find Out) moment, as the kids say. Im sorry for the true professionals that know that you can leave your politics at the door while on duty.
>>284137843the guy who posts the fake ban screenshot in every naruto thread isn't banned so this guy never will
>>284134640when will this retarded bubble burst already and plunge India into the stone age?
>>284134750I know it's cool to shit on dubs (Which is fair, they are awful and deserve it), but they're not even in the same universe as AI slop dubbing.Now the benefit of AI dubs is being able to translate shit that doesn't have translations into something you can understand, but it's not acting. It's not supposed to be used for arts.
>>284138225 There's literally no proof of discord influence in there, only some guy (probably (You)) bitching about it throughout the thread.
>>284134640People pay money to use a service that serves them slop they deserve it.
>>284138267I highly doubt AI dubs will be able to do Monogatari well at all.
/v/ thread is better >>>/v/727157064
>>284137356
>>284134895>Can't convince me that a supposed native speaker has a heavy engrish accent.I think you're missing the point here. When a Japanese seiyuu is speaking Engrish, they're doing it for the benefit of the Japanese audience. I'm sure there are a few seiyuu who can actually speak English a lot better, but that would be difficult for the actual target audience of Japanese people to understand. They would need subtitles
>>284134640It's inevitable. No company really wants to pay performers. The AI dubbing is terrible now but it will get better and people's standards will get lower. The unions and voice performers can complain on social media all they want; AI is here to stay and companies love saving money.
>>284138095>honest to god narutards inhabit these threadsfitting
>>284134640I don't care about gay shit like actors not getting jobs and what not. It's just shit. That's my problem. It sounds like shit.
>>284137580considering a lot of the technically proficient dub people like Laura bailey and cheremie Leigh dont even do dubs anymore, I dont think thats truly the case. good actors are there, but if they make the right contacts or have the talent they dont stay in dubs. in the VA world it seems like the skilled actors are usually following this trend:stage actor >>>> anime dub actor >>>> game actor >>> cartoon actor >>> adult animated series actor/AAA Game actoryou can also switch stage actor with internet personality/talent as well (Cristina vee). some VAs are even going back tl stage or small screen stuff as well. in the English speaking world, unless you have a forever role like Mario or something basically all the money you make is from convention signings and panels.
>>284134640>the future nerdy techbros chose for usWeebs backstabbed by the enemy from within. The ultimate TOP 10 ANIME BETREYAL.
>>284137282>It really is incredible that all of the largest corperations in existence have come to the unanimous conclusion that they have no reputation to maintain and there will be no consequence for trying to fuck the customer at every turnThey're oligopolies. That's what happens when the bar to do business is arbitrarily high unless you got fuck you money.What're you gonna do? Start your own company and start dubbing anime? I'd like to see you fork over the millions it takes to buy their rights. It's happening everywhere, in every field and it's not changing any time soon cause it benefits the guys up top. We're just at their mercy.
>>284135089I agree, and since they are all rich people, all the more reason to do this.
>>284134640I hate AI and I hate dubs, so I'm really happy both are suffering from this.
>>284139354>What're you gonna do? Start your own company and start dubbing anime?Convince Japanese licensors to let their products by dubbed by Youtubers who do anime dub parodies. Just start recruiting on Youtube and make the actors send the audio files they record themselves.
>>284139495They're more specific than just rich, anonBut that's a conversation for /pol/
>>284139556Even assuming the japanese hear your plight and give you the rights for free (They won't. They don't give a shit. They'd much rather not get dubbed at all and no gaijin watch their stuff) You still need starting capital to recruit and pay those youtubers, cause 'getting paid with exposure' isn't a thing anymore and the whole 'integrity of art' schtick isn't gonna motivate anybody when they can get paid actual money you can pay bills with to moan for 5 seconds to voice some blender loop of Kiriko overwatch getting railed.
>>284137356bitch BENCHOD
>>284139556you severely underestimate how hardcore they are with copyright
>>284134640When you think about it, AI dubbing is the next big step in the logic of international anime distribution sites. After all, the whole logic of dubbing is for these companies to remove what they view as "friction" from the viewing experience of lazy retards filtered by the one-inch-tall barrier of subtitles. Of course, if you also think about this topic for more than a few seconds, it's not difficult to see how this removal of friction is also what drives the mindset behind trannylations, as they are also designed to make it easier for these same lazy international retard audiences to get into anime. This is done by essentially eliminating all the nuances and subtleties of a specific language and making everyone talk like local teenagers so that some single digit IQ Netflix subscriber who has never watched anime before won't have to experience any difficulty understanding their first FOTM anime.Soon enough, these anime distrubution sites will both replace trannylators and dub voice actors with AI dubbing in their endless pursuit of profit. After all, why pay them when they both produce the same dogshit quality as AI? It's honestly hard to tell the difference between AI dubbing and actual human dubbing of EN dubs, as >>284134750 (FPBP) points out.I look forward to the mass layoffs, especially seeing trannylators on the chopping block.There are fewer groups of people out there that deserve to get fucked more than these insufferable trannylators.As for the dub voice actors that will also get replaced by AI over time, they can also get fucked. Imagine watching anime with >dubs.
>>284139769>hardcore they are with copyrightThey'd rather see their property butchered and spat on by AI voices?
>>284139787They speak japanese. They don't fucking hear the difference. And the whole AI thing hasn't taken this dumbass political culture war aspect there like it has here.I mean fuck, I don't even get why people actually defend AI other than 2016 era trolling le libtards ebin owns. It's shit. Everyone agrees it's shit or else it wouldn't have to be forced down everyone's throats with every google search and every copilot feature that pops out like a dick any time you do anything and corpos wouldn't be embarrassed to have a big MADE WITH AI sticker on their steam page.
>>284139787They don't give a fuck. You can screech all you want about overseas sales but anime is not made to cater to some retarded gaijin that watch dubs, as long as there's a company willing to pay them for the show's rights they can piss and shit all over it because Japan has nothing to do with any of that and do not care.
>>284139780>eliminating all the nuances and subtleties of a specific language>eliminatingCan't eliminate something that was never there to begin with.WHEN was the last time you saw anime subtitles make a distinction between regional dialects characters use, let alone distinguish 'old man speak' (washi=watashi, ja=da etc.), 'scholar speak' (grown-ass man using 'boku' + polite language) etc. from regular Japanese? Neither fansubbers nor official translations did this. Seeing regional dialects getting proper dialect treatment is exceedingly rare - the last time I saw it happen was with a segment in Pop Team Epic where a character was speaking Okinawan.
>>284139787you see this as a matter of overall principle but their priority has been punishing individuals who steal their work, which is why they go after people who seed torrents, those korean leakers who smuggle copies of manga to upload a day before jump is released and content creators who make vids on youtube and niconicoAI is a faceless and larger scale problem that they have no idea how to combat so they will not do anything until someone else in the west figures it out first
>>284139920>Can't eliminate something that was never there to begin with.>the last time I saw it happen was with a segment in Pop Team Epic where a character was speaking Okinawan.
>>284139920the most we get is sometimes pointing out a tomboy girl uses boku
>>284139969You can't even prove me wrong lel.The truth hurts. Listen, kid, adding -san or -kun to characters' names and calling it a day IS NOT retaining>nuances and subtleties of a specific language
It's not ready for prime time at all. Pushing AI in these cases where it gives a result like the Chaos Wars dub is clear bubble thinking
More AI crap:>Award-Winning Manga Accused of Being AI-Generated>The manga in question, Mikuni no Hane Hanezamsama, won three prizes at Young Jump’s Rookie Awards>>284140242
>Can't act or sing without sounding like microsoft sam>Can't create videos that don't devolve into fleshy body horror after 4 seconds>Can't write and converse without sounding like a jehova's witness>Can't code or do videogames>Still can't do fingersThe entire fucking world economy is reliant on a fucking toy that at best does mediocre anime porn, isn't it. We're fucking subsidizing this shit. I work to pay for this shit.
>>284134640dubfags would do ANYTHING to avoid listening to the original voices
>>284140330>I workNot for long.
>>284140330It's good at writing high school english class 500 word essays, especially if you don't expect them to be any more accurate than what a 16 year old would write
>>284134640It doesn't sound THAT far off from an official release. It's worse but give it a few years. Most of the good english dub voice actors have moved on to bigger projects; or retired completely so the shit that gets put out today just sound like twitch streamers.
>>284135086They are consistently pretty bad and the people doing them are failed actors. Plus dub voice actors have been trying to get the animation con grift to work for them and are thankfully ignored for the most part
>>284140507>j-just few more years bro!>We just need a few more trillions to brute force 0.00001% improovements at the cost of the entire eastern seaboard's energy output>we'll be profitable next quarter I swearThis is just embarrassing at this point.
>>284140507>give it a few yearsWHY THE FUCK SHOULD I? Why is any human effort wasted on building a nuisance and the biggest reason to throw shit at the wall in rage since the introduction of 'helpful' chatbots in lieu of proper customer service?
>>284140599Take your meds faggot you were never gonna be a voice actor anyways.
>>284140685Bitch I made my beer money for the whole past year serving slop out of civitai's generator until they started charging money for it. I've literally profited more from this shit than 99% of anons who bootlick corpos for some reason but at least I have the honesty to admit it's all just a grift. A grift that's gonna make 2008 look like a fucking joke, no less.
>>284140685You were never going to work for a FAANG company anyways, slave.
>>284140420>the entire global economy is constructed to help teenagers cheat on their homeworkWhat a time to be alive.
>>284134640Good. Fuck Funimation. The people crying about AI 24/7 sound like autistic redditors. Why are you watching dubs anyways?
>>284140973>the entire global economy is constructed to make the population even dumber than it already is
>>284141113You think they wanted to be made into fools?
>>284134850>AI dubs are most likely only going to be utilized for low-population languages that don't already get dubs>anime now AI-dubbed into Hindi>/a/ gets flooded by barely-literate low-quality posters from IndiaThis is worrying.
>>284135220This is so fucking surreal
>>284135220I've yet to see evidence of a Vinland Saga AI dub but kek if true. That one already had two English dubs.https://files.catbox.moe/s46onz.mp4
>>284134640Bananafish any good? It looks like fujoshit.
>>284135220I almost want Amazon to do this for Cinderella Gray out of morbid curiosity on how fucking awful and monotone it'd sound during the races.
>>284144427It's fujoshit and all the villains want to fuck the blonde dude.
Anyone who argues in favor of this should be thrown off a cliff
>>284135220Slightly hilarious that real dubbing is so bad they still felt that this was acceptable
The only positive of AIslop is the death of casualfaggotry, since anything aimed at casuals instead of fans will be instantly replaced by AIslop, as casuals have no standards.Death to secondaries.
>>284144427It's based on a shoujo manga - what do you think?
>>284144819Funny that you think that anybody else has read the manga/watched this show. This thread is just a soccer match between people who like and dislike AI.
>>284137652And AI doing bad dubs of things I like also in no way ruins things I like, because I do not watch dubs.
>>284145018It takes 5 seconds to look up Banana Fish on MAL to check the source material.
>>284137282>It really is incredible that all of the largest corperations in existence have come to the unanimous conclusion that they have no reputation to maintain and there will be no consequence for trying to fuck the customer at every turnNormalfags don't care, they already consume tons of AIslop on social media and they're the primary target audience for dubs.
>>284140330Is this post from 2024? I don't like AI, but it can do a lot of this now. There are AI songs topping billboard and spotify charts now.
>>28414533228% of uploads but 0.5% of streams per spotify themselves, who have a vested interest in inflating how much people actually listen to the slop, so I assume they barely get 0.1% of streams.
>>284139920>WHEN was the last time you saw anime subtitles make a distinction between regional dialects characters use, let alone distinguish 'old man speak' (washi=watashi, ja=da etc.), 'scholar speak' (grown-ass man using 'boku' + polite language) etc. from regular Japanese?Earlier this year with Okitsura, which is literally about Okinawans.
>>284134640>this will destroy the dubbing scenegood. not to mention, why on earth are you watching dubbed anime on amazon of all places?
>>284145332The majority of the world is made up of barely sentient mongrels who can't figure out how mirrors work, appealing to popularity is stupid.Anyone with functional ears can instantly recognize that the sound created by these programs isn't being made by a person and the reason this kind of stuff gets such a visceral reaction is because things that try to ape humanity trigger your brain's threat response due to the uncanny valley they fall into, and that gap will never be crossed even by the time the sun finally goes out.
>>284145167I've watched the show years ago. My point is this thread is just another AI/Anti AI discussion, Banana Fish doesnt matter.
>>284134640My question is what are those AI voices based on?
>>284134640Good.Dubfags deserve to suffer.
>>284134640Amazon can fucking burn, I'm sick of AI slop being shoved into everything.
>>284134640I'm guessing you all don't know about the wave of chinese dramas on tiktok, all of them have the same AI generated dub voices and get gazillions of views, people don't give a shit and that's ok, normalfags should normalfag and stay like that, away from anime.
>>284146820>normalfags should normalfag and stay like that, away from anime.Years too late for that.
>>284134640it's fucking godawful. You faggots can whine about real dubs all you want but if you say they're as bad as or worse than this shit, you're objectively, categorically wrong and should probably kill yourself. Not like you have anything in your brain anyway.
>>284134640source to the article ?>
Dubfags deserve it
>>284146864This will help a lot.
>>284146903Not my problem, dubniggers get what you deserve, I hope all corpos replace their dubs with this AIslop garbage just so you can suffer and your shitty celeb dub "actors" can kvetch.
>>284134989Every person who supported this decision should be forced to watch Tokyo Ghoul √A
>>284147281It's not just dubs, AI subs are already a thing they're peddling in many languages, with godawful results. I don't understand the "not my problem" comments, because it highlights that the problem is reaching every facet of anime, even within Japan. Hell, even if there's better AI examples created by social media accounts, you need to understand that the industry cares about saving time and money to such a degree that you'll always get the cheapest, and often worst, variation of AI out there.
>>284147615Learn Japanese you filthy EOP.
>caring about dubs
>>284147638I think Japan will hold on to their VAs for a while longer than the west, but they'll also eventually peddle in AI into their works to save money, just like they have done for some art background in anime.
>>284145585You're free to discuss Banana Fish with me.>>284146917>>284122413
>>284137356If it's so good, why aren't you using Grammarly to catch your typos BITCH?
>>284147615The lack of foresight about AI has been fucking unreal. Really exposing how retarded and incapable of critical thinking the average person has become.
>>284147615Yeah, people saying "it's not my problem" are going to realize it's their problem when it starts quickly replacing stuff they actually care about. Corporations are heartless and money grubbers, as soon as they see they can cheap out with AI bullshit without much push back, they will rush to put it in as many places as they can. You'll have AI jap voices in 5 years, AI subs and manga TLs and soon enough AI art. Hell, I've already seen a manga use AI to produce blatantly trash backgrounds that don't fit the actual art of the series.
Of all the anime Amazon streams, why Banana Fish? I doubt there was any demand for watching it dubbed in 2025.
>>284148034>>284148226I've noticed that they care more about "owning" the opposite side of their political spectrum (or in this case, dubfags/normalfags), not understanding that the corporate entity doesn't concern itself with left or right wing issues, it only cares about making the cheapest, fastest product for as many people as possible. It's a thing that everyone's affected by, Japanese people too. There's already AI background art in Japanese anime promo posters and within the shows themselves, so it's only a matter of time when Japanese VAs will get replaced.
>>284148240That's the exact reason. They're not gonna do this shit to a flagship property. They're testing the waters with something less people will care about.
>>284134640>since they bypass the cabals with these shitty AIs and alienate normalfags with how shit they areDubfags have zero standards and this will just become the new normal.
>tfw burgerstaniAnimation as a medium has never mattered here outside of Disney so it makes sense that we gave up completely. What’s funny is that this has become some sort of political topic even though all the results from AI in professional projects have all been shit (AI dubbing for Amazon anime, Black Ops 7 for vidya, the Coca Cola ads). Sure is a great time to be an American in the workforce.
>>284148226>You'll have AI jap voices in 5 yearsYou first would need to elaborate on these scenarios before going "b-but this will affect you in 50 years", how a low effort industry doing what they always do would have an effect on an industry that values voice actors so much? You eliminate seiyuus and your entire industry disappears, you eliminate dub actors and uuhh, you get some angry tweets I guess, they are not related at all. It just seems like a very disingenuous argument.
>>284148542>Animation as a medium has never mattered here outside of Disney so it makes sense that we gave up completelyBy 'giving up' you mean butchering animations from other countries? >>284148539>the new normalCan't imagine people ever paying to watch AI-dubbed stuff in cinemas.
>>284135220I want to say "dubfags get what they deserve", but I don't think it's a good direction for the world to go into
>>284135220>no original Japanese for referencecan't tell how good or bad it isspoonfeed me harder
>>284135220why would they ai dub NGNL when it already has a dub kek
>>284148226We already have AI MTL for manga and subs.Jap AI voices would just kill the entire industry, as well as multiple surrounding industries, so that won't happen.
>>284137328seems more like they trained it with random shitty autistic fandubs on youtube people made decades ago
>>284134640Whats the AI dub like when Ash calls that henchman a faggot over and over?
5 years ago I would not have believed that dubfags could become even more disgusting
>>284149370I presume it's due to some copyright reasons, since the dub wasn't done by Amazon.
>>284149281You can find the Japanese dub on pirate sites. Nobody's pirating AI-trash and putting it up on Nyaa. >>284149370To fool their paying customerbase.>remember that dub for NGNL you watched ages ago?>nah, you won't be getting that one ;-) >>284149442I'd like to know as well. It's episode 1, from what I remember.
>>284149541I tried to find it on amazon just now but it wasn't in the list.
>>284134640It's memed on right now because it's bad, but the real discussions will be had when they get good. Just like with everything else.
>>284149395NTA, but there's been lots of changes and implementations into anime over the years that had been theorized to kill the anime industry, yet haven't. I don't think seiyuus would get replaced in their entirety per se, especially when looking at higher production shows, but there'll be many anime who will use AI voices to save costs.
Just found out that Banana Fish has a fundub kek:>https://odysee.com/@MushroomStudios:e/bananafishenglishfandubep1:f
>>284149632>when they get good
>>284134640AI is already keeping this board alive via bots. Anime fans are the male version of Disney adults.
>>284149768I think the threshold for the average dub listener is very low, so yes it's possible to reach an acceptable state for them.
>>284149685>but there'll be many anime who will use AI voices to save costs.And those anime will flop horribly since they're guaranteed to be worthless cheap garbage.
Funny to see 4channers lament AI as if they don't talk to bots all day.
>>284149855Just like isekai, and when's that dying?When it's cheap to make, it means it's real easy to make a profit with little risk, even if the audience size is small.
>>284149964>Just like isekaiThey always get crazy good streaming numbers so that's a bad comparison, you don't know what a flop is and AI voice actors would actually tank anything it touches,
>>284149964Ehh, the cheapest isekai usually don't do well, they need some form of budget and effort to do well.
>>284137700Funi has been dead for several years though, and this isn't done by Crunchyroll either. This is purely Amazon's doing.
>>284134640I can't see how anyone would unironically like this dub. Even if you love AI, I can't imagine anyone watching past the first half of the first episode of it. It's torturously bad.
>>284149964Isekai's audience is not smallJapanese people are just really fucked up and want some brainless slop to consume when they get back from their soulless 8-10 job
I don't know what to dislike more about the anime adaptation: that they skipped so much or the decision to change everything to Current Year. The only thing it improved over the manga was Shorter's design.
It's time for dubfags to stop being so close-minded and elitist, and realize that it's current year and (AI) dubs are good now.
>>2841509480/10 effort
>>284147827Japan has a very loud idol culture. I doubt that'd ever happen so neatly
>>284151530Someone post the "anime industry salary" chart, without seiyuus anime will just die.
>>284143575>>/a/ gets flooded by barely-literate low-quality posters from India4chan, and the internet in general, is flooded with them already
>>284139853t. seething libtard
>>284134640I feel bad for Vic he's really heartbroken and pissed about this on twitter and instagram. I don't care how you fuckers hate on Funi, about this it's all on Vic work on certain anime dub project. Amazon could gotten their own dubbing studio and support with Vic and ex-funi members at the helm looking over projects. This is insult and slap at the face on consumers.
>>284151530>Japan has a very loud idol culture.They haven't made any good idorus as of late. Nips care about vtubers than idorus.
>>284149685One seiyuu agency already worked out licensing out their VAs for AI voices. This is headed the same way Pedowood is using AI to bring back dead actors. Why wouldn't a production just license big name VAs and ignore the hassle of actually working with them and call it a day?
>>284151898Vtubers are idol culture.
>>284150339>>284150639With the sheer quantity of isekai out there, the vast majority of them aren't getting crazy good numbers. There's some standouts that are quite cheap yet popular, or well-produced and popular, but for the most part, isekai is cheap and gets smaller numbers due to its high quantity. They usually don't get crazy good numbers compared to the rest of the seasonal charts. In fact, most isekai consistently get into the bottom half of abema charts.The point is, anime can go for low effort slop, and make it often. So who's to say they won't stoop as low as getting rid of some seiyuus for AI in say, background roles? Seiyuus won't be entirely replaced, but I do think they'll be reduced in some shows.
Jesus Christ, the stupidity in this thread is mind-numbing.>"HA HA get fucked dubfags, this'll never happen to my glorious Japanese seiyuus"Oh, wait...
>>284152144>Vtubers are idol culture.It doesn't matter really.
>>284152180POST THE SOURCE, NOT SOME TWATTER CAPS
>>284134640Piracy is going to be bigger than ever.
>>284152180Yeah, subfags are double digit IQ retards, we all know this already.
>>284150639Ehh, it's the same shit everywhere, isekai is just the Jap equivalent of sitcoms and Netflix slop that people put on in the background while they browse tiktok in the west.
>>284152180Oh no, after she dies(in 50 years) Goku will tell me to buy MC Donalds, it's so over for anime.
>>284152449There are more UK criminal/detective series being made than isekai, or all of anime actually. What's the point of having so many UK criminal series? Who the fuck even watch them?
>>284152251I prefer subs over dubs, too(generally) but seeing all these people act like something's never going to happen when the groundwork's already being laid is like visiting a special ed classroom.>>284152478Yeah, Goku will tell you to buy MC Donalds and Nozawa will never be replaced by another seiyuu for he and his entire bloodline. What could possibly go wrong?
>>284152478Or KFC.
>>284135220You could probably sneak this in there and no one would noticehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVSqFRgs1Qw
>>284152478This but unironically
>>284143575>>/a/ gets flooded by barely-literate low-quality posters from India90% of the posters on here are already from /v/.
>>284152478>after she dies(in 50 years)She's 90 years old and will likely be dead within the decade.She can already barely do voice acting and that's been the case since 2017.
>>284152180nobody cares about granny goku
>>284152180Future seiyuus will probably have clauses in their contracts that allows their agencies to own their voice, including AI use after they die or retire.
>284154077ok sean schmells
>>284154027People been saying this for the last 20 years.
>>284154348>She'll live to 140 because people have pointed out that someone that is incredibly old is inevitably close to deathLiving to 100 is absurdly rare, especially for someone still actively working.
>>284154132Why wait until after they die or retire? They can just use the seiyuu's voice to train their ai, then allowing the voice to be used for as many projects as possible with little time wasted.
>>284154413Including, but not limited to.
This only concerns "people" who watch dubs however
>>284154474Ah, my mistake.But man is this bleak.
>>284154507You can only hope that the AI models are good enough to perform lines on their own, or we'll have a comical phase where lines are voiced probably from some random southeast asian with an accent which is then ran through the AI voice model.
>>284154572>comical phase where lines are voiced probably from some random southeast asian with an accent which is then ran through the AI voice model.Seeing as the industry is rife with penny pinchers, this will be the case for a long time. There will be nothing but the lowest quality ai slop.
>>284154482>Surely this precedent won't move up to affect japanese voices, and the broader sections of anime production.>It will only affect dubs!
>>284134640they should license the voice of nip VA’s and AI them to speak english https://youtu.be/YPPY39DtQfU?si=0ji4Pi2af8IbmyQj
>>284156208>Dio now speaks with a retard lisp>Jotaro sounds like that one retarded kid from South ParkNo.
Hello fuck dual audio releases goodbye.
lol dubs lol
