Chapter 10: >>284120745Chapter 11
>>284151385Some people might not enjoy them not translating things like "Hitsuzen" but I am fine with how the did it.>>284151440Oh no they forgot a . after contract!
Thank you OP.
>>284151839Dumpy Chama...
>>284151839thanks opsama, happy sunday
>>284151839Thanks OP
Thanks OPAll this talk of fortune telling reminded me of my favorite liartown piece
>>284151250Enter?
>>284151271I thought she was calling watanuki cute.
>>284151385>your coming here was hitsuzenthat's fucking cheating
I was worried this storytime would drop off so I'm glad it got continued. One of the only few manga I'm proud to have the complete collection of (well, the original series anyway). God, Yuuko is so fucking sex and still captivates me to this day. Still can't believe she finally got an official figure after all these years.
>>284151697butterflies have already been transformed, thoughthe omen should be the noble caterpillar
>>284154106>I was worried this storytime would drop offWhy? The guy has been posting manga for years now.
>>284154106Or how she and Watanuki finally got Nendos. Also>tfw this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8K00fPK71Q hits even harder if you retroactively apply the lyrics to Watanuki and Yuuko
>>284154173There was some initial worry with the first thread which only dissipated after the first couple of chapters were posted a bit later.
>>284151731え?
>>284154277I Believe In DumpyHe may be flaky, post at irregular hours, occasionally forget to call the end of the chapter, and also has extremely bad taste, but he has shown he can post a daily to completion time after time.
>>284151762This boy is highly susceptible to hag manipulation.
>>284154177Have any other Nendos been this erotic before?
>>284152413I don't see how it differs from fate, predetermination, destiny, etc.
>>284154543I feel like there have been but Yuuko's really stuck out to me for having actual cleavage.
>>284151460>trading luckNice teaser for 300 yen thing from Rei>>284151731To quote the anon who quoted Joseph Joestar, I'll never forgive the Japanese - she fucking knew that Watanuki will never end up with Himawari but didn't tell him.>>284151762I totally don't remember Syaoran being that good at cooking.>>284154641I just feel that by not bothering to translate it adds unnecessary focus (like some retarded readers won't notice it by themselves) - just keeping it as "inevitable" is fine, because entirety of Holic and Tsubasa is literally that. Not anime or manga related example, but it reminds me of Magic the Gathering where the term "planeswalker" was translated to other languages FOR YEARS just fine, and then once developers added planeswalker as a type of card it was decided to just copypaste English word into every existing translation without the actual translation because "omg we want to push its importance". The result looks fucking jarring and dumb.
>>284151839They've completely BTFO the hot fortune teller. Did she really deserve it?
>>284155324Yes, because she's not a fortune teller and lies about it. This chapter literally explains why that's a bad thing.
>>284155324Didn't you learn already that telling lies is wrong?Also Yuuko is hotter anyway.
>>284154641it's in japanese
>>284154641>>284155216I mean finding a good english word for it and translating it would have been fine too. I do not now enough japanese to know if they are putting special emphasis on it in CLAMP's works. I guess it's in brackets here since she is explaining it to Watanuki.
bumpbumpbumpholic
>>284151839Thank you for posting.
>>284151637;____;>>284151839Thanks, dumpy!>>284154492Mommy issues from losing his mother too soon. If you think about it, Himawari feels kinda mature for her age.>>284155324Yes, and her even hotter meido should start working for the granny.
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>>284156479Maybe if it was written in katakana in original (and not just as transcription for people who suck at kanji) it'd make sense to keep it as "hitsuzen" because that was the intention (see Dragon Ball where characters were named Black and Red - nobody tried to change their names in translation because their names were written in katakana as Buraku and Redo), but putting the word in brackets just means the word is important, not that the writing of the word is important (which is basically what I was talking about - no shit "inevitable" is such an important word in Holic and Tsubasa).
>>284159347I see it more like the 完璧 choujin in Kinnikuman. They use the kanji for the title, but the katakana says パーフェクト implying it should be the English word Perfect as a proper noun.
Would impregnating Yuuko count as hitsuzen?
>>284160687absolutely
>>284160687Meeting her already is, so if the laws of causality led you t impregnating her then it could only be Hitsuzen, otherwise it wouldn't have happened at all.
mid chapter desui don't care about old women
>main girl is best girlHonestly, xxxHolic had a lot of cute girls and yet it's amazing how it somehow still managed this.
>>284165153>main girl is best girlThat's basically all CLAMP works tho>Sakura>Hikaru>Chii>Kobato>Sakura(Tsubasa)
>>284156479couldn't it simply use "naturally foreordained" as they use in their initial explanation, or "meant to be" as the lazy translation option?Although it's true that in this case it holds more meaning using that particular word, but TL's could at least reference it every time they use it, for the sake of us retarded readers
Thanks OP.>>284151839I don't buy this, I bet Ame Warashi is somewhere around.>>284151126What happen if she use her panties instead?
Idk if this is an unpopular opinion or not but I don't like the relationship between Himawari and Watanuki. It kinda feel too one-sided for me. Like their interactions aren't that much and she has always treated him more like a friend than a romantic partner. It also kinda hard to see why Watanuki like Himawari beside she been nice to him.
>>284166195>What happen if she use her panties instead?She'd be taken to her mangaka buddy.
>>284160009Okay, but in this case it's literally kanji 必然 that reads as "ひつぜん" or "ヒツゼン" (in hiragana or katakana) while in your case kanji 完璧 reads as "かんぺき" or "カンペキ". I have no context about why Kinnikuman author used another word in katakana to describe it, but I guess there was some point for that.Point is, there's nothing special about Holic's "hitsuzen" to be written in katakana (it's not, instead it's kanji written in brackets and there's katakana version of it for easier reading) or not being directly translated into English as "inevitable". When nip authors want to make an emphasis on some concept in their fiction (be it manga, anime, videogame, novel, etc.) they usually rely on katakana to differ the meaning of this concept from its usual meaning and turn it into reoccuring term within this fiction. For example, "人形" is a doll, but between different fiction media some nip authors might use the concept of doll in different ways, thus calling something "Doll" or "Dolls", writing it in katakana and then explaining what it is (maybe somewhere DOLLS is some sort of special police department, and the name foreshadows something, while in another media Dolls are some sort of stands that follow the characters).But when it comes to Holic's "hitsuzen"... there's nothing special about it, it's literally what it is - "inevitable". Only thing that makes it special in Holic is that is works 100% of the time, but once again, it doesn't make the word itself special. Trying to write a simple word (but with deep meaning for the series) as some complex thing (by writing it in romaji instead) is something akin to Revolver Ocelot (Patric Laine) Revolver Ocelot - you're not looking smart here.
>>284166616I like it in a tragic sort of way. Not because of Watanuki's initial crush on her (lol), but because of how it's handled later on when the cast becomes more tight knit as friends.
>>284166616Okay, I assume you're not talking this early about their relationship as first-time reader through this thread and talk about long-running thing across the manga (if not - ignore this post), so it's better to keep it behind spoilers.Actually, I have a short version and a long version.>short versionIt was inevitable. It's the rule of this manga and it always explains something if you don't have a clear answer for it.>long versionHoo boy, here we go.>It kinda feel too one-sided for me. Like their interactions aren't that much and she has always treated him more like a friend than a romantic partner.NOFUCKINGWAYI WONDER WHYHer entire life was literally "my best-case scenario is to ask my parents to build me a small house in some wild woods far away from civilization with a bunch of "DANGER! DO NOT ENTER!" signs posted around the territory and live there for the rest of my life". Her life was fucked from the start without any explanation (other than old hags from CLAMP having a fetish for making the lives of their characters as miserable as possible) and it wasn't even her fault - what else she was supposed to do? Good thing her parents had this anti-misfortune thing in them to at least raise her, else she'd fucking die at age of 5 or something.
>>284168579So of fucking course she tries to distance herself from EVERYONE and trying to make excuses while acting nice to them (because she doesn't want to burden them with her issues - not everyone might believe them, and even if they do they can't do anything about her misfortune). It's just Watanuki is THAT thick-headed - he doesn't really notice it until not just Yuuko but literally everyone asks him about his misfortunes and tell him to carry some spiritual protection around. And yes, you might blame Himawari for not telling Watanuki everythng straight early on and sending him off, but she's a fucking human who also wants to have friends. Previous cases ended up badly, sure, but with Watanuki things are... going okay? Sure, she blames herself for being the reason lying woman was hit by truck-kun to death (in reality it was lady's fault for being retarded and removing the ring), she blames herself for being the reason evil spirits appeared during their Summernight Storytelling episode (maybe she was the reason, maybe she wasn't) and for a bunch of other things, but Watanuki came out of them just fine (especially thanks to Doumeki), so maybe with him (and Doumeki around) things will work out like with her parents..? Like, hell, she didn't even have proper friends until now due to all the trauma and you're asking why she's not trying to enter romantic relationship with Watanuki because he likes her?And then the fucking pinky swear followed by a pat to the back followed by window drop happened, and you can tell she went full "FUCKFUCKFUCK NOT AGAIN IT WASN'T FINE AFTER ALL" inside - she instantly took the scars off Watanuki as to somehow pay for her selfish attitude, told him the truth and wanted to permanently stop meeting with him and Doumeki as to not cause any further issues for them.
>>284168618But it's Watanuki's words that melted her heart and him creating Tanpopo that made her life less miserable (she got a portable Watanuki in his spiritual form as permanent companion and anti-luck countermeasure); at this point she did start falling for him - Watanuki himself even started to carefully push her to go out more ("Are you sure you're not free? Maybe you can postpone it so we can actually go out somewhere today?") because he knew she's lying for his and Doumeki's sake. I can't blame Himawari at this point because CLAMP didn't really develop their relationship much after that AND they killed off Yuuko, so Watanuki got stuck in a shop for eternity. Then old hags added a bunch of bullshit to cuck their meetings (hurr Himawari doesn't tolerate dream travelling because durr, hurr nothing Watanuki comes up with to improve shop's stability with Himawari in it helps because durr, hurr no magic works for them to communicate and only old ass phone works because durr) outside of yearly meeting, but you could still tell from their phone call that they clearly had long-distance relationship. And then old hags went all in and added NTR in the last volume of manga - literally who, with no name and appearance in the series either pre-timeskip or post-timeskip, somehow marries Himawari, and it's not even clarified if he has anti-luck countermeasure aura or not. This is Steel Ball Run's "oh yeah btw that kid died later on due to cold lol" tier of spiteful - at least properly introduce the guy and give the reason as why Himawari went for him.
>>284168618>It also kinda hard to see why Watanuki like Himawari beside she been nice to him.Sounds like you never loved someone.In case of Watanuki and Himawari it's hard to say because "hitsuzen", so I'll try to find another example. Oh, right, Syaoran and Sakura from Tsubasa - she's a princess and he's literally who, an outsider who came with his parents to Clow Kingdom, and yet they fell in love with each other without a clear or serious reason other than "they were nice to each other". Wait, shit, I forgot "hnitsuzen" is also the answer to their love relationship, that was a bad example. Uhhhhhhh, what else comes to mind... oh right, Sakura and Syaoran but from Cardcaptor Sakura! The only time when old hags said "hey, how about our protagonists end up being happy and in a serious relationship!" It wasn't a relationship that started directly with love (Sakura was more of a rival to Syaoran while Sakura herself had romantic feelings for Yukito), but eventually their feelings towards each other have slowly developed and they did end up in a happy romantic relationship.This kind of stuff happens.But you know what also happens? Love without some Big Reason of the Universe or many years or development - sometimes a boy ends up liking a girl (or a girl ends up liking a boy) for no reason, and then their feelings end up being mutual and they end up being together, starting a family and raising kids. What's the phrase, "amor caecus" aka "love is blind"? It kinda fits in Watanuki's case but not really - the main point is that Watanuki was sincere to Himawari when he said that his day always got better whenever he got to see and talk to her (especially in rare cases when they were able to go out somewhere together), and he was glad he met her in her life. Sometimes you don't need much to be happy with someone, and Watanuki was happy with Himawari, even if Fate screwed them all the time.
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>>284170460Kek, good job.
We're getting close.
New chapter doko?
Is this hitsuzen too?
>>284180078Always.
Chapter 12
>>284181298>>284181318The sexual tension between these two...
end of chapterphew, didnt forget today.
>>284181413Holy saggers
Wanted to quote some specific pages but after reading the whole chapter - man, I miss the early artstyle of Holic. Literally everyone express more emotions (ESPECIALLY Himawari and Doumeki, like holy hell you'll never see Doumeki's face like this in 20+ chapters from now) than their later counterparts - in late Holic and entirety of Rei everyone looks and acts so goddamn stiff and using the same two-three copypasted emotions during overdone sketchshows.>>284181421>sexual tension>neither of them is gayThe only sexual tension in this chapter is Yuuko teasing the reader with that dress
maniakatta, dumpy
>>284181479The 100 ghost Stories that will lead to my death.
>>284181479thanks opsama,
>>284181437>He doesn't react to her skmipy dress at allI don't get him bros...
>>284181642Kek, immediately had the same thought.
>>284180490This goes without saying but i fucking love how /fa/ Yuuko is.
>>284181318I'm starting to feel second hand embarassment.
>>284154129The butterfly was a roundabout way of saying that he will be guided by Yuko.
>>284181346Yuuko is hot alright.Also is there a reason she doesn't have an electric fan or AC?
>>284181374Manlets, when will they learn?
>>284181437HOLY FUCK THIS WOMANGOD DAMN
>>284181479Thanks OP>>284153819
>>284181479We're already at the movie, huh? jk
>>284181437Seductive hag.
>>284181437I want to put a load of hitsuzen inside her
>>284181298>>284181318ENTER Watanuki's bff>>284181437*ahem* SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX>>284181479Thanks, dumpy!
>>284181805He has extreme one-its. Please understand.
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>>284181437
What's her bodycount?
>>284181298>>284181318>ENTERI like domeki and watanuki a lot
>>284151580>your parents have safely passed to afterlife heh
>>284155216>I totally don't remember Syaoran being that good at cooking.All Syaorans are good at cooking
>>284183127how many people coming to her shop have the ability to install an AC Strange how she didnt just magic her way tho
I don't understand why he gets so upset herebad translation?
>>284181413The heat melted her perky tits.
>>284181437I wish I was cute enough as a kid for a chick to molest me.
>>284185048I mean the dude freaks out all the time. It's his thing.
>>284181479Hyakumonogatari by Sugiura Hinako is a great compilation based on this premise. Very much worth reading.
>>284185048His entire personality is screaming about everything that happens around him. I'm glad I'm not watching the anime, because he'd be fucking unbearable if I had to hear a voice for every one of his rants. He's genuinely a pretty shit MC. Zero charisma.
>>284185732>He's genuinely a pretty shit MC. Zero charisma.Is he?, He was pretty funny, his antics with Yuuko and Doumeki were always hilarious, and he had some solid emotional moments throughout the seasons, the only annoying thing about him was all of the "Himawari-chan~~" simping, shit felt like I was watching One Piece all over again.
>>284186004I just don't like the boke-tsukkomi routine when its played over and over again. Tsukkomi characters in particular are often super annoying after more than a couple gags.
