>Touhou and Love Live that lowWe live in the ashes of a world that no longer exist.
Uma would dominate if artists were allowed to make porn.
>>284186088Is making hentai really a ticket into the industry?
>>284186088Honoka's betrayal made manifest.
>>284186181always been
you already posted this exact thread on /v/ todayand posted this exact image as a thread op on this board several times before
>>284186088How can a gacha with so many doujins do so poorly in revenue?
how much loli still survives?
>>284186088>gachaslop at the top of the list Absolutely fucking vile.
>>284186088GuP on the board let's goooooo
>>284186088my oshi is so powerful
>>284186114Is it real that shit about it being illegal to the point the Yakuza could break your legs for lewding the horses kek?
>>284186181Short of winning a meaningful newcomer award, which MIGHT earn a mangaka an opportunity with a big publisher, doujinshi (usually erodoujin) is THE inroad into the manga industry. It allows amateur mangaka to flex their artistic ability in a more prolific way than any other. And in an industry that is increasingly based on light novel adaptations, proving oneself as a capable artist who can draw waifus is about as reliable of a way to be recognized as one can possibly hope for. So yeah. It's the golden ticket.
>>284186411Japan has extremely strict copyright law. In theory, every piece of fanart is a copyright violation. The publishers tolerate it only because they're (amazingly) not stupid enough to bite the hand that feeds them.But it has happened before that companies cracked down on fanart, especially lewd fanart, that they didn't like. They can simply report them to the police and sue them.
>>284186354/a/ is so far in the pastGacha and vtubers are the home of modern otaku culture
>>284186461>The publishers tolerate it only because they're (amazingly) not stupid enough to bite the hand that feeds them.To piggyback off this: it can't be emphasized enough how many product mangaka began their careers by writing/illustrating doujinshi. They run the risk of severely pissing off a lot of prominent, respected artists should they choose to come down to hard on doujin authors. It's an intimate part of otaku culture that for many beloved mangaka dates all the way back to their middle school club activities. There's just no reason to poke that beehive unless there are extremely factors at play (read: a fucking lunatic retard sending hardcore guro of a character based on a real horse to the literal owner of that horse).
>>284186510My unwashed taint has more culture than gacha.
>>284186510Elevens have shit tastes.
>>284186510Vtubers are fine, idol industry bullshit notwithstanding. Gachacancer will always be a grotesque carcinogen though.
Excited for Kanoe’s first round.
>>284186088The problem is not that those are low, it's what is so high and how many have close to nothing.
>>284186430I am doing this with a friend. Hopefully we dont need to do porn to get in desu :|
>>284186181Holy shit this is a circlejerk of gatcha games and fan artists
>>284186114They arent allowed?>>284186310Why do most of these games have shitty or similar gameplay But people still p(l)ay them? I liked nikke and genshin but would never ever ever give them my money
>>284186577>Vtubers are fine
>>284186577>Vtubers are finelollmao
>>284186342>blue archiveall of it
>>284186088It was fun for a while
>>284186510so bored of gatcha and vtubers. literal harlow monkeys designed to bleed you dry with micro transactions. fuck these JP nogs
>>284186554>read: a fucking lunatic retard sending hardcore guro of a character based on a real horse to the literal owner of that horsei still can't believe a retard doing this shit is why we can't have uma porn, i hate autistic retards
>>284186554>>284186964>a fucking lunatic retard sending hardcore guro of a character based on a real horse to the literal owner of that horseQrd?
>>284186088I'm surpised none of the hoyo games isn't listed or wuva..so I take it only JP gachashit is only listed here? But,if that's the case why the fuck is Azur Lane listed it's literately a Chinese gacha game the Chinese bootleg version of Kantai Collection.
I wonder how much shit horse owners catch from gambling degenerates who lost big
>>284186088>Loli beats 3DPD>'wE LiVe iN tHe aShEs oF a wOrLd tHaT nO lOnGeR eXiSt"Shut the fuck up bitch
The Touhoes have their very own convention these days, it's Reiseitai.
>>284187037This cope has been going on for over a decade now
>>284186088yeah wow what a shame a bunch of stale old ips are getting beaten out by something as evergreen as hot jks
>>284186988Not much to explain. Some sick fuck drew guro of one of the horse girls (I have no idea which one) and sent it to the owner of that horse. It's commonly believed that the incident led to Cygames putting their foot down with regards to Uma Musume R34 because the owner was understandably enraged by the depravity that he witnessed.
>>284186771>>284186784They seem like they're having a nice time and so do the people to enjoy them. They're incredibly innocuous compared to predatory gacha bullshit. It's the agencies behind the popular ones that are a problem. So yeah, they're fine.
>>284186088I hate that that horrible bitch is the face of vtubing.
>>284186088I'm so sick of vtubers and gacha. Why did otaku culture become so boring?
>>284186988literally what it says there, the owner of seiun sky/nishino flower got sent guro of the characters and almost withdrew permission for them being in the game over it
>>284187133What's wrong with Marine??
>>284187131Not to mention at their worst it's better than furry and troon shit (except where overlap exists).
>Thousands of doujins sat in the archive>Most never scanned>there are artists and circles that have died with lost media sitting in that room
>>284186695>>284186715>Holy shit this is a circlejerk of gatcha games and fan artistsJust to be clear: you want to be a mangaka, but apparently don't know what Comiket is all about?Good luck retard.
>>284187131They're all the most artificial industry plant plastic bullshit, just made to appeal to complete loser faggots. end yourself
>>284187231I don't particularly have a horse in this race either way. But aside from the ones being propped up like idols by fucked up agencies, I really don't see a problem with jpeg streamers. It's just so... inoffensive. And even the ones who are with those agencies are the ones getting fucked over as opposed to the people who like them. And even if their fans ARE getting fucked over: who cares? Idol otaku are the worst kind of scum. They deserve it. But why should I be bothered by people streaming with an anime avatar? Seems more pragmatic than using their real face at least.
>>284187138At least you're getting new shit
>>284187231It's too bad they can't be genuine like mr beast or the burnt peanut
>retards are now defending vtuberslol
>>284187142They were threats from a schizo, but Cygames was zero-tolerance about it. If the schizo actually pulled the trigger, Seiun Sky and Nishino Flower's owner would've pulled out like King Kamehameha's.What happened with King Kamehameha's owner is why Cygames went scorched earth on the schizo in the first place.
>>284187131One of them is a skinner box and the other is anti-social emotional manipulation. Both draw money away from creative projects to maximize profits for soulless cash-generating machines.
>>284187310Unfortunately most of the people that browse this board watch vtubers.
>>284187327This is /a/nimu and mango, anon. The art that you love exists primarily for the sake of commodification. You don't have a moral high ground here.
>>284187310It's all the same shit. Divesting sexless otaku men of their money by throwing increasingly focus tested cute girls at them is the bread and butter of the doujin game. At least since the fujos who built the doujin scene got cucked out of it in the 80s with the lolicon boom.Vtubers and gacha whores are the end product of a market that's existed longer than you've been alive. Don't call it a grave, it's the future you chose.
I am fine with mangaka/illustrators who occasionally stream using an avatar.
>>284187397t. zoomie
>>284187142What a fucking snowflake
>>284186088Is there some site/archive that counts totals over time?
>>284187430Seems like a pretty rational response to gurofag depravity. It only takes one pathetic scumbag to ruin everyone else's good time.
>>284187327"Anti-social emotional manipulation" is what they called media for male otaku in the 80s. Strip mahjong games were sold with cute girl art back then too. Unless you are GAINAX from 1985-1991, TRIGGER crowdfunding LWA, or maybe Yuasa founding Science SARU, if you're in the industry, you are working for soulless corporate forces.The only meaningful difference between you and a Vtumor stan or a gachaslop pig is you're more likely to have English as your first language.
>>284187430Imagine if somone sent you gore of your kids or pets.
>Only one Comiket thread during the actual Comiket days which happened on the same time during the Reze craze in Korea>The Reze controversy happened>Suddenly a Comiket thread appeared out of nowhereOh, so this is what it is
>>284187463>>284187499No seriously, you're on 4chan. You can see much worse a few boards over.
>>284187505Are you ok?Do you have brain damage?
>>284187518>t. Gookfags with brain damage
>>284187510Exactly. This is 4chan. What people here consider innocuous, normalfags find horrific. That's not difficult to wrap your head around. Of course an ordinary person was incensed by that shit. You'd have to be cripplingly autistic to not understand why. Which I'm guessing you probably are. Unless you're just a garden variety retard.
>>284186114most doujinshi aren't porn, at best, it would get a 25% boost
>>284187105>>284187142Interesting. Has the guro art been published anywhere? Or is it lost media now?
>>284187529Well, you yourself seemed like you were reacting to it like a "normal person" would, rather than the jaded dismissal that is the norm.
>>284187543Fuck if I know. Guro doesn't really get my rocks off. I wouldn't be surprised if someone has the R34 in question though.
>>284187231>he said this while posting on 4chan
>>284186088BA having this much doujin only proves that the teacher-student dynamic is the ultimate fantasy for japanese men
>>284187569I have a trickle of humanity left that allows me to empathize with how normalfags react to the kind of grotesquery that wouldn't even catch my eye after nearly 2 decades dwelling in this cesspool. Then again I've defended loli in YouTube comments and pissed a lot of those normalfags off by doing so. So it's not like I really have room to talk.
>>284187618Most of the doujins are from women.
>>284187637That's just doujin in general. Hell I'm pretty sure it's just manga in general.
>>284187192I'm curious about doujins--ero or otherwise--that were sold at comiket or other conventions of years past, that were never scanned or shared aside from their physical copies. What I wouldn't do to look through that archive just to read through the occasional doujin for my favorite series.
>>284187455There are notes out there that count by genre code, but that only gives you a narrow view of what actually goes on at Comiket because it requires that the organization cordons off a separate section for those circles. There are tens of thousands of circles participating each year, lots of them draw Pokemon, Nier, Kemofure, anthologies of their own donut steels, historical and statistical accounts that they wanted to publish themselves, whatever else you can think of. But that'd take effort to count and the people that make these infographics just want cheap engagement and an easy narrative to sell.
>>284186088>716 Type MoonAny non-FGO?
>>284187637They care about sales you retard
>>284187192You know how the Japanese are about archiving things.
>>284186088Comiket doujinshi as a whole are a dying breed anyway since independent artists can pump out their works directly to fanbox/fantia subscribers
Just goes to show how Senseis have the most lust-provoking figure
>>284187379Intellectual cowardace. Congratulations, you've reduced eveything to absurdity so you no longer have to care. You want a gold star?>>284187470>You claim to hate capitalism, yet you participate in it. Curious!You can have one too.
>>284187505>The Reze controversy happenedWhat the fuck does this even mean?
>>284186088Anything for Xenoblade which isn't 2shit?
love live is fucking trash so good riddance
>>284187385>the fujos who built the doujin scene [...] in the 80sComiket, as just one example, started out back in the mid 70s. You're confusing those fujos with the ones that broke off to make separate venues like Comitia (which WERE actually predominantly female in their early days, partially as reaction to male focused comic markets that started popping up around Japan in the 70s/80s). There are ebbs and flows here that you're rewriting.
>>284186088>GuP still on the list.God tier taste these circles have.
>>284186088Imagine a world where Honoka didn't whore herself out... Imagine all the LL doujins we would still be getting...
>>284186088>GundamWhat? Are there any doujinshi about old and obscure entries like Turn A or ZZ?
TOUHOU BANZAIBANZAI
>>284186088I don't like any of those ipsbut I do have nostalgia for tsukihime
>>284186360>>284187814This Milf is mostly carrying it with the amount of doujins she gets.
>>284187020Browsing the loli tag recently had me surprised at the amount of Blue Archive content. Gacha really is carrying the torch that video game devs allowed to extinguish.
>>284187301Every handheld is a retro console by this point though.
>>284187993It's not that many though
>>284186088Touhou is AI garbage
Blue Archive is the hero of hentai and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
>>284187052How is it a cope? Reitasai has been consistently clocking triple the numbers of Comiket participation.
Touhou mentioned on /a/ sure bring back memoriesEven nowadays I still sometime having to explain to newcomer why Touhou anime will never exist
>>284187008It’s called having a “genre”Having your own category is still a prestigious thing in Comiket, they don’t gave those out often. That’s why Vtuber are still lumped together
Simply put, gacha is currently the most effective way to spread your IP name around, that’s why it dominate. We are way past the point of acting like any IP is above gacha, they will all get a gacha eventually
>>284188520Wonder if Maikaze will use his suspicious high budget and connections to do another Touhou doujin anime.
>>284187518>Type like a typical Asian>"D-do you have a brain damage"I hate CSM but CSMfags and Fujimoto did a really good job locking you up in the basement until the porn thing
>>284187618Japanese men like... young, submissive women?Truly a mind-blowing revelation.
Touhou still won because of ZUN
>>284187813Those are some ugly ass women bro
>>284187735Independent artists as a whole are a dying breed anyway since coomers can pump out their works directly with AI.
>>284188739You're a joke
>>284188784AIslop is mostly dogshit made by lazy faggots and being a slopper is a badge of dishonor
>>284186088Still a lot of Touhou shit, should be dead by now
>>284188709kek
>just 2 more weeks and [copy pasted gook garbage no. 35184619] will kill 2hu for good broYawn.
>>284186088the day vtumors take 1st spot is the day comiket dies
>>2841888322hu dies when we do and not a day sooner.
>>284186577>>284186510vtubers are the lowest of the lowestGacha is just a type of game that you may or may not like, fine.Vtubing is just sitting listening to a whore roleplaying with a "cute" avatar making noises and entertaining adult men as if they were literally special need children. It's absolutely the lowest of the low. I only enjoy vtubers when they upload shit like this to mock their own paypigs
>>284186088BA basedVtubers giga cringe
>2hui only played koumakyou and i only know like 5 characters, and i still prefer 2hu to gachaslop and fucking vtubers2hu forever
>>284186554>(read: a fucking lunatic retard sending hardcore guro of a character based on a real horse to the literal owner of that horse).This actually happened.
>>284188891How much of that 900+ comments is malding?
>>284186088Gook archive will never be popular, once nexon stops the paid shilling say goodbye to the gaslight porn
>>284188891I agree 100 thousand percent IF we're talking about most of the Hololive line-upAgain, vtumors are low-quality drivel that is barely acceptable even as background noise BUT: I will make an exception for Raden.
>>284188963wake the fuck up
the fuck happened to touhou?
>>284188963At the beginning sure but nowadays it's mostly self sustaining. And centered mostly around pornography. Have never played BA and never will, but I have fapped to some of their doujins. They have some really skilled artists
>>284188995東方 unironically outgrew Comiket.
>>284188939Well obviously. That's why I referenced it.
>>284188995It's like 30 years old. The people making 2hu content to this day are, literally, autistic. They mostly only consume 2hu content and create 2hu content because they've been doing it for the past 10 years and they're not going to stop now. Even if the 2hu games nowadays are fucking dogshit featuring AI, they do not care. The new games won't spawn those autistic fans they are still making content from the girls featured in the games 6-12
>>284189077
>>284189103I don't fall for the MTX grift. Nice projection though, at least gacha fags admit to being pigs who eat slop.
>>284188995I mean you can't expect people to stay with an ip forever of course people moved from touhou to greener newer pastures thats just how it is.
>>284189077kill yourself
>>284189094I am not mentally ill enough to understand this shitpost.
Wonder why these threads always feel like they're hovered around by people that don't like anime
>>284189139>greener newer pasturesSuch as?
>>284189150You are mentally ill enough to play gacha garbage, so you should understand.
>>284189170Gook and chink trash is not anime thoughbeit.
>>284186088Touhou gets carried by the older stuff, nobody cares about nu touhou.That's probably why it's so low.
it's interesting that aside from blue archive which is korean, horse girls is the only thing on that chart that isn't at least 10 years old. you see the same trend in the gachashit rankings. chink and gook games are original while the nip games are all cashing in on boomer shit like gundam and dragonball. even anime seems to have less successful originals these days. when you look at the seasonal charts everything is a season 4 of something or an adaptation of a mango that's been running for years already.
Do they sell rolls of Manwha at these events?
>>284187397I can't believe people like the eizouken mangaka or pochi just like, stream nowit's pretty funny
Someone explain this OrcTaku term to me.
>>284189302Touhou is low because of Reitaisai being a thing and the fact a lot of fan content isn't doujin but other media such as YouTube videos.
>>284186761horse racing is dominated by inbred mobsters
>>284186088>vtuber taking overGuess people really like the parasocial aspect of fictional women. Blurring the line between fantasy and reality....
>>284189394bro? they're literally falling behind already You need stronger copium
Reminder that Touhou still won because at the end of the day the others are just copying its winning formula.
>>284189394You say that when homoniggers are actually taking away from fictional women cause they are all 3DPDs
>>284189256There is no need to be upset, sweetie.
>>284189394Otaku have always wanted for 2d girls to be real, if you think about it the rise of vtubing makes sense.
>>284189302This is because Japan is the only one to have successes that are ten years old.
https://x.com/McDonaldsJapan/status/1995764875507687732Even the Japanese mac is posting Touhou.
What I don't understand is why Blue Archive fans and artists always center on THE most generic girls in the franchise. They basically ignore everyone else.
>>284189423We cannot fall for the siren song of the vtuber. Like the chivalry of old, the maiden is to be idolized and held to an impossible, unattainable standard that can never truly be met, just like we can never truly meet 2D and 2D can never meet us.
>>284186088hag sex
>>284189640The ones with broadest appeal are going to get the most content, and the ones with the most content are going to be the most popular. Frustrating, but a fact of life.
>>284189715It's literally the same shit, a 2D representation with the voice actor replaced by an live actor and the writer replaced by the acting of the actor.It's always a human mind behind the creation of any 2D character.
>>284186461Couldn't one challenge those laws on the basis that the copyright holders havent' done almost anything to stop their violations? You know the old excuse about Nintendo or others suing fanstuff that doesn't harm them because "oh but if they don't do this then it might weaken their IP".
>>284189778That's a complete myth the internet has latched onto for some reason.
>>284189640Well maybe they don't think they are generic.
>>284186088Does 2hu not have their own conventions?
>>284188699They're greasy, self centered, and one of the few groups that built part of the scene that actually still stands today
>>284189778>Couldn't one challenge those laws Yeah, if you want to spend multiple lifetime savings on lawyers just for a low chance of success. I don't know how Japanese law works, but the pornography censorship are as muddy, inconsistent, and arbitrarily enforced as it gets. Zero predictability.
>>284188592
>>284189769The mind of one that only consumes and reacts and the mind of one that creates are always going to be a little different. Hope you eventually figure out why.
>>284189869I guess it's a little bit too early to talk about theatrics 101 with you.
>>284186088>>284186114Care to explain this mr. gook?>>>/v/727286474
>>284187192And how are these "future generations" supposed to read this?
>>284189302>chink and gook games are original>chink and gook games are originalNigga what the hell are you smoking lmao
oi jaypee at least Touhou DID surpass KanColle
>>284189769Yeah, but the vtuber IS the person. They have 3D lives and do 3D things and are tainted. The 2D is fiction. The impossibility is the point. The platonic ideal, the pygmalion.
>>284186088I member back in the days when Token Ranbu was a thing. The fujos lost to vtubers and blue archive
>>284187192That's insane i didn't realize they had a warehouse full of doujins wth.
>>284189302>nip games are all cashing in on boomer shit like gundam and dragonball.The most popular nip gacha games isn't gundam and dragonball though.>Monster Strike>Pokemon TCG Pocket>Puzzle & Dragons>FGO>UmamusumeMeanwhile this is BA btw
>>284187192>international committeeUN and WEF bankers were a mistake. Didn't they elect a new PM to stop foreign censorship in Japan?
>>284189778>you know the good ol' excuse back in the days for one hell of a good time
>>284189302Yes saaaar, this is the different between BA and trash like Uma
>>284186088Isn't you just post the exact same thread on /v/ few hours ago you fucking gook tranny?
>>284189965>BA biggest event>a handful of ugly tranniesMeanwhile....
>>284189944You seem to be upset at the fact that popularity does not equal revenue.
>>284189965Isn't this more to do with US shit vs shit in Japan? The BA screenshot says en and it says ax for anime expo. Think that happens in commifornia but I don't go to conventions so I wouldn't know.I don't care either way, I play both games. The music in BA is better though.
>>284187287>I really don't see a problem with jpeg streamersThe problem is it allows whores who could never make it as e-girls because they're too old and/or ugly to rake in cash like they're good looking.It's brutally dishonest. They make millions for literally just being a woman. The dudes who donate to them should all be flayed alive.
>>284187161She hates her fans and her own genmates can't stand her. You can tell they just want her to leave every time she's shows up.
>>284188634He’s still making itIt just taking him YEARS because he is doing everything by himself, and likely keep redoing shit to make it perfect. It was bold of him to openly challenge big studio however
>>284186088Gachaslop has ruined every aspect of anime culture
>>284189799More than one actually It took a while but China and Korea also have their own single centralized Touhou event for themselves now. And ZUN been actively traveling abroad to support themIn Japan they are also advocating for an event for every single prefecture, for convenience sake
>>284189920Nah if you bother reading history of Comiket, Touken Ranbu also eventually moved out of Comiket The current trend is actually hosting their own doujin event, many gacha already do this, it’s more convenient that way
>>284190160It's also to free up space for up and coming new franchises. If people had their way, the entire convention would be filled with nothing but one.
>>284186310>posts a made up chart made by trannies on a discord serverLmaoing at you.
>>284189965>ba only has male fans in the westno shit
>>284187813he's talking about how Azuma and others started making lolicon stuff specifically because they thought comiket had gotten too gay
Most of Comiket is just Akiba but for doujinshi, everyone else moved on to focused events or just use social media to publish works.
>>284187856Imagine you fucking off and killing yourself.
>>284190043His head would probably explode when he learns that touhou at the height of popularity had 0 gacha revenue.
>>284188790>>284188858Your life is a joke. Kys
>>284190043This has both popularity and massive revenue though, but where is the doujin (porno comic)?
>>284190068Post the biggest BA live event then?>>284190264>maleLook like tranny to me
>>284190260haha...
>>284186114They got the worst designs I’ve ever seen
>>284186088Try the BA game and it's just typical auto gacha shit, the anime is dog shit too.
>>284187327all boxes are skinner boxes if you love skinnerst. actually read Skinner
>>284186577>vtubers are fine
>>284186411Worse, they send you a cease and desist letter.
>Gook/Chink shilling>It's /v/This is why we will always have censorship in video game or our media in general. Dumbass gamers falling for literal gaslight and lies and then spend money on censored products provided by those liars. It's not just Korean/Chinese thing either, those dumbasses still believe that Nintendo won't censor shit In fucking 2024
>>284186559Wash your taint
Uhh hello? The list?
>>284190892The fuck happened to /v/ anyway? They used to be ruthless and not giving any mercy toward any kind of censorship but now I see them apologizing censorship over and over again even when the company who censor tricked them with censorship bait and switch before like those Chinese gacha. Did they take bribery or something?
>>284187992how does she do it
>>284187301>proclaim the Xbox 360 and PS3 are retro>this means children are now "retro gamers"smells like bullshit to me
>>284186088>Touhou and Love Live that lowOh no!Anyway...
>>284191038newfag hostile takeover, the users of /v/ of today are nothing like /v/ of yore
>>284187008There aren't that many Genshin doujins and I haven't seen a Wuwa one while casually browsing ex. Gacha games being popular doesn't mean they'll have lots of ero-manga made for them after all.
>>284186088I don't get why Blue Archive is so insanely popular in porn.I'm looking at pictures of the girls and it's a lot of schoolgirls. I mean, they're cute and sexy and all, but it's been done a trillion times in anime and games. What makes Blue Archive's girls stand out?
>>284188590The only way gacha spreads an IP is as a virus or disease spreads itself. Gacha doesn't produce good anime, videogames, or anything truly remarkable because is a product with the only intention to exploit fans and turn them into soulless paypiggies. Gacha is known to kill already established franchises, look at Fate for example. Oh yes, and bring on a shit ton of cuckshit doujin to the IP. For some reason cuckolds love gacha. Is that the kind of spread you're talking about sure gacha provides it.
>>284186310Because they literally use all their money to commission pornBA biggest achievement is shitting up japan
>>284186088I don't understand why BA is popular in Comiket at all, the game suck, the anime suck, the SoL manga is not even funny. At least fgo has fate VN, Ufotable anime and Uma has good anime and good manga
>>284191338>I don't understand why BA is popular in Comiket at allCharacter designs. The artists behind these doujins probably play the games religiously, but the same isn't a foregone conclusion for the people who read the doujins. I've never engaged with any official BA material but have beat my son to the doujins too many times now.
>>284191338>the game suckwhy
>>284191212There is no other series these days that panders to otaku. Cute and simple designs, hopeful story, proper lolis, no censorship, characters that like you, interactions that are cute and sometimes even flirty but don't feel perverse. makes people want to love and then draw the characters.
>>284188891>indies (EN)lol, lmao eventhat's basically saying /a/ is shit because all you do is click on dbz threads
>wahhh why isn't my fav series as popular as gacha and vtubersevery thread
>>284186088>Vturder at 2nd placeThe east has fallen.>>284186510Kys /vt/ vermin.
>>284191125They came out like 20 years ago man
>>284188973jft my beloved
>>284186088GuP still hanging on with it’s slow release, just like on here
>>284187992Shiho wears Boko pantsu!
Its hard to overstate how important things like comiket and doujins are to the success of anime and manga as an industry. These indie works are the lifeblood that keep new ideas and new stories flowing into the medium, without a thriving indie scene Anime would fall into the same top-down corporate hellscape that western animation did.
>>284191047> beautiful milf with resting bitch face who dresses in a power suitShe is a waifu for men.
>>284186088Remember when Kancolle and Azure Lane were the hottest shit? Now they're not even on anyone's radar.The gacha cycle repeats itself, give it a decade and Blue Archive and Vtumors will be just a distant memory.
>>284187192There must be some mistake, that's a picture of my backlog.
>>284192201If BA is pandering to Otaku then a random generic Isekai LN is also pandering to Otaki
>Another thread of Gook/Gookfags gaslightingCSM really did a number on them
>>284192201I wonder how many Koreans and Korean fans that I would see in Hell if they could casually lie like this
>>284186181No
>>284186088I thought Love Live overtook Idolmaster?What happened?I don't like either idolshit.
>>284186310Naruto doesnt exist
>>284194674esl
>>284187310I don't like vtubers, but I imagine older otaku (like from the 90s or something) probably felt the same way about how 00s otaku were obsessed with Vocaloid
>>284186088Any good /ss/ kino coming up?
>>284194877>vtubersIt's just youtubers or other streamers doing their youtubeshit but with cute anime girls.Littlekuriboh did something very similar in the late 00s where he used his abridged voices like Marik's for Let's Plays.
>>284191038The 180 /v/ did toward censorship needs to be studied. It is contrarianism in its most distilled form.
>>284186088You're complaining about this on the wrong site, unfortunately. 4chan is more tolerant of vtuber tranny shit than other platforms like twitter, ig or tiktok
>>284191212I mean how many properties that are purely schoolgirls with a notable focus on lolis with good character design can you name?>>284191338It's a property full of lolis. I'm not saying that to be degrading, I'm saying it gives the otakus an experience that isn't easily found elsewhere
>>284193725I also want to point out these same "wtf why is this so popular" threads were made during the Kancolle/Azur Lane dominance era. Nobody even talks about Azur Lane anymore when that was basically Blue Archive in the past.
>>284187627>defended loli in YouTube commentsI'm not a fan of lolis but I see them as an important part of anime/otaku culture.I hate the retards complaining about pedophilia in anime.
>>284195340Kancolle seems to outlive AL.
>>284195340The era of echa-musume and WWII themed anime girls is coming to an end. It was a good time.
>>284195540*mecha-musume
>>284186088I'm tired of porn.this shit is poisonjapan is doomedtheir men are too addicted to porn and toys instead of growing up
What the hell happened to desuarchive? it's been down for weeks
>>284195655>The site may be slow or display errors due to an ongoing network issue at our host.
How does /a/ do it? Even with all it's flaws it still manages to maintain a level of quality far above the other media boards.
>>284186088>It's all gachatrash and vtubershit>Touhou keeps decaying>Type Moon became a gacha franchise
>>284186510Who cares about modern otaku culture
>>284187331No they don't, /vt/umors do not interact with other boards. They just stay in their circlejerks. And that's a good thing.
Touhou has Reitaisai.Zun should stop making games because he's a hack.
>gundamthey don't tell you it's all bl though kek
>>284197433Those are mostly strays that get bored from /v/ (baiting there is very easy because of their low IQ) and look to shit other places.
>>284186088Love Live fell that low because SIF ended and SIFAS failed hard. At the end of the day, idol franchises become irrelevant without gacha games.
>>284186088>vtuber in second placedoes anyone knows if they are gonna make more gura/saba doujins?
I like that Kancolle is still strong.
>>284191338is just porn, what the hell do you expect?
>>284186510/a/ is a tourist board full of tourists that are convinced they aren't tourists because they've been on this tourist board for 20 years.
Funny thread to read. /a/ has become incredibly ignorant and backwards over the years when in the past it had knowledge surpassing other Western communities interested in Japanese culture, aside from /jp/.
>>284198491>20 years>is 2025fuck
>>284187231so an ex-holo fag? who fed up with her whorish oshi?
>>284191338>>284191860Gameplay is atrocious and overall loop isboring but character designs and arstyle are great for many characters, the stories are legit good (both the goofy comedic and serious ones) and chibi animations are impressive. It's a shit game but as a franchise has many stellar aspects to it.
>>284190089So, you're just jealous?>>284187305Many of them are far more geniuine that whatever eceleb you think of. They aren't professional actors. It's not realistic to keep up an act for long hours every day for years. Occam's razor. Streamers are more genuine than other content creators on average. Especially vtubers, similar to how people are more honest when having sense of anonymity.
>>284198566>Gameplay is atrociousLunatic feels very rewarding. When you try to shift skill timings for hours on end until it just clicks.
>>284198715based
>>284198796The issue is gameplay hasschizophrenic identity. Blue Archive is made for phones but often you don't even have good view of the fighting arena on phone screen, not to mention tryint to precisely cast ults with fat fingers. Reality is, the ideal way to play difficult content in that game is on emulator with mouse and keybord in non standard resolution imitating a tablet. Completely different from general intended audience / way of playing which is salaryman thumb clicking his phone on train home.
>>284186088I love BA man.
>>284198867phone gaming is a miserable experienceIt is only good with some emulators like mostly handhelds.
>>284189944like I said except for uma those games are all 10+ year old dinosaurs or based on a 10+ year old ip.
>>284198689Can I ask you something, how can you live with yourself defending these ewhores dude?What happened to 3DPD? huh?This is 3DPD hijacking the beauty of 2D to get retards like you to give them money./vt/umours are fundamentally against everything that /a/ stands for. There's a reason you have your containment board.I suggest you kill yourself.
>>284199803Vtubers simply aren't 3DPD. That's the whole point and appeal.I've been on /a/ longer than you most likely.Unlike you, i'm not some tribalistic child and can enjoy more than one thing.
what C number are we at? C105? C130? what do i search for in nhentai
>>284199861Anon, it's pretty simple. Check latest number and add +1.>nhentaioh wait, you're a retarded normalfag, you will fail these instructions anyway
>>284198393The only passable gacha in my opinion. Total boat love
>>284199999KanColle isn't a gacha. It's a farming game.
>>284198689>>284199803I think of vtubers as the idols of 2010. Back in 2010, groups like AKB48 were very popular, but I never really saw the appeal of 3DPD until I browsed /jp/ idol threads, then quickly realized it was all schizo posting and 3DPD drama.Then in late 2015 and early 2016, I started watching vtubers almost religiously (when 100% of them were Japanese only), and I later, many years later, realized it’s the same 3DPD drama, and even worse as you’re paying an ewhore instead of a proper idol (groups like Hololive fall into the idol category, but it’s still the same 3DPD shit).
>>284199999>>284200017It's one of these proto-gacha browser games. I remember playing some of them in the 00s. At least the 00s had fun flashgames. I love Yamato and I like the artist who ships her with Iowa.
>>284200052I just watch Fuwawa for her giggles and how she bullies her sister, AZKi for her angelic voice and positive aura, Okayu for her sexy moans and Raden for JP listening practice because she has most interesting zatsudans.
Oh, also, FuwaMoco are the ones who translated NekoPara and worked on some other VNs too so I think they deserve my support, even if I don't care much about their idol dream and would prefer if they nerded out about eroge more.
>>284200116The sooner you stop, the better. There is nothing to gain from forming a parasocial relationship with a streamer.
Kancolle mogging azur lame is pretty fun.
>>284200233I like both.
why does Genshin/hoyoverse have so little representation? Same but less for arknights etc.yeah yeah>not JapaneseBut that doesn't seem to matter to stop it being the #1 stuff in Japan or from fan artists, yet it doesn't make it to doujinsIs there something weird like you won't get a comiket spot if you made something from a chinese franchise?
>>284200306
>>284200328Designs are way too annoying to draw. Shitload of hair accessories, capes, floating sleeves, assymetric outfits... Yes, that's the main reason.Notice how most of popular series in doujins and fanart have relatively simple designs.
>>284200380FGO characters completely kill that theory, they fucking love drawing all of them
>>284186510>/a/ is too hipster even for JapanGood.
>>284200393Nah, they can't comapre to chinkslop in design complexity (derogatory).
>>284200328If they are trying to get into the industry I bet there is Japanese style discrimination and petty grudge holding going on there
>>284199850>Vtubers simply aren't 3DPDCalling me a child when saying vtubers aren't 3dpd is like saying that it's night time when you shut your blinds during the dayYou're watching 3dpd with a 2d veneer and you whiteknight for ewhores online, I pity you.
>>284200393Jack, Okita, Shuten, Kama, Melt, Eresh etc. aren't particularly detailed at all. And it makes perfect sense because f/go is an ancient game made for small phones while CN shit is more for PC and mdoern too.
>>284200524Try being less angry. You aren't making any sense.By the way did you know anime and manga are made by real 3D people? Will you get a heart attack now?
>>284186088Touhou is almost 30 years old, the fact that it's still a top performer and fan favorite with close to 600 doujin circles is astounding, and a testament to how resilient fans are and how much staying power it has as new things like gacha waifuslop come and go. Similar story with Gundam.Anybody who disagrees is insane.
>>284200563Jack predates FGO. The modern weird weeb design philosophy is most notable in FGO. Very weird overdesigned outfit that have no resemblance to real life. Moder Yugioh (also with a lot of waifubait nowadays) is also like that. I wouldn't say that anime designs were realistic in the past but they were a lot more grounded. I think Siegfried's and Karna's were some of the worst early examples.
>>284188891>Gacha is just a type of game that you may or may not like, fine.Gacha aren't games they're psychological bait fishing for the mentally ill to spend money on them.
>>284200406>>284200563
>>284200626>and a testament to how resilient fans are*mentally ill
>>284200635I never played that shitty game for plethora of ideological reasons, so I don't exactly keep track of all its characters but I think it would be logical that newer charas are more overdesigned. It's the simplest way to make them more distinctive, it only gets tougher with time to create simple but memorable designs.>>284200669Cute Foobs. jk
>>284200803Jack, Karna and Siegfried are from Fate Apocrypha a LN. Fate Extra also had many overdesigned designs. FGO took Extra's philosophy and sometimes made it worse.
>>284200669What do you mean? This is nothing compare to the average overdesigned chinkshit like AK, genshin, starrail
>>284200850there is no way you think a serious stopping block is drawing this compared to the 8 ear'd super detailed outfit
>>284200850I love Zhu Yuan from ZZZ and her sexy butt. Chink gacha Officer Jenny.
>the typical chinkslop design
>>284200943Forgot pic
>>284200980
>>284190520>Post the biggest BA live event then?I wouldn't know since a live event seems kinda pathetic to me. Same as paying any money for a gacha game. Play for free though that's fine.
>>284200909She’s also look boring as fuck like every chinkshit characters, cheap ripoff of generic anime stereotypes.
>>284200980What with chinese making every male look like faggot though?
>>284201044Comiket is also a live event but more jewish and smelliest though
>>284201044>I wouldn't know since a live event seems kinda pathetic to me. Same as paying any money for a gacha game>comiket ticket cost 5000 yen>but wait you will need to queue behind 69 smelly fat creeps to buy a 10 pages pedo fanfic made by AI>more ads than korea p2w mmo
>kancolle outlived azur lane You come for the king, you best not miss
>>284200909she is an obvious rip off of Tamamo.
>>284186088Nexus unironically pays artists to shill their dead flop kusoge and it never cracks the top 10 even in a good month KEEEEEEEK
It is over, Korea won
>>284200328Hoyo doesn't pay artists to draw content that no one besides porn addicts look at.
>>284201254What about the other bote girl franchises? Abyss Horizon is dead but Warshipgirls still exists in Asia. Then there is Blue Oath and some others I don't know much about.
>>284198715
>>284198507It has? I'm interested in hearing your thoughts, if you're willing to elaborate.
>>284194877You're exactly right. Look into everything Toshio Okada (one of the first-generation otaku) said about moe as a phenomenon during the 90s and 2000s. Oldfags are continuously seething over newfags and their strange obsessions.
>>284200626Truth nuke
>>284201026I don't get it, what is wrong with this design?Aren't good designs supposed to be distinctive by their silhuote?This achieves that
>>284201795You're beyond hope if you lack the aesthetic sense to see why that's a discordant mess of a drawing
>>284200626Actual factual. Love livetards seething.
>>284186411Nips generally bow before any guidelines that companies put out, and Umamusume in particular had an incident where one of the horse owners almost pulled his horses from the game because the fans sent him a bunch of gore of his horse. It's not really yakuza, just general fear that going overboard will get the game closed or at least many things pulled from it.
>>284186088Touhou is always reclining because it's Taking it Easy. Never underestimate its staying power.
>>284186224Hasu could undo the damage left by Honoka if it got an anime.
>>284201494Even if that were true, you do realize this would make me kneel to BA even harder right?
>>284186088Touhou and Type Moon are in top 6 after decades, right after all the temporary trends, which come and go. I'd say that looks healthy to me.
>>284186310>Project Sekai tumbling>Bandori fucking goneWhat the fuck did Kondo do?
>>284202649No, you're just a blithering retard overcome with rage who shits himself upon seeing trigger words without thinking about the subject. As I said, you're no different from tribalistic children on twitter. Let that sink in.
>>284186088Love Live went off a cliff with the Nijigasaki anime's art style not being the typical LL style (and nerfing the boobs) then Leila went deeper in where nearly none of the girls had breasts even bigger than Maki.
>>284189778Japan doesn't actually have a legal system. It's all bullshit papering over the same tea ceremony negotiation between murderous nobility. Trying to bring a lawsuit against a company would get you laughed out of the courthouse and served a letter that says "confess to this list of crimes or we kill your family".
heh
>>284189950>international committeeSince when?>>284186088Yeah, there was something about a “no foreign interference” proposal very recently. At least Japs are smart to hoard the good stuff in a worst case scenario.
>>284189339It's low IQ IESLB
>>284189715
>>284201494Lol, Mihoyo wish they are actually popular among jap otaku instead of poojeet, SEAnigger and mentally ill westerner.
>>284186088I don't play buruaka but the girls in it are cute so I'm fine with this. Especially because I fucking hate vtubers.
>>284186088I thought Yakuzas didn't allowed horse lewds
>>284189778You want to enforce a retarded rule that basically says "copyright holders need to sue more often"? You're want to tell companies to sue even more stuff? Thats stupid.
>>284189785Not exactly a myth, it sounds like a confusion of two different applications of IP laws, copyright and trademark. Trademark laws do have a built-in expectation that a holder has to demonstrate "use" of their trademark, which can include defending it in court against egregious violations. People often get confused between trademark and copyright when you have something where both could be applied, particularly fictional characters which can have their name and/or likeness trademarked. In Nintendo's case they have an array of Super Mario Bros. related trademarks, although they don't have one just for the name "Mario".
>>284207260Yes, stopped by the overwhelming odor emitting from your body.
>>284202699EoS soon. Can't believe Tokyo 7th Sisters will outlive both.
>>284196874Anime girls got bullied out of their own market by sheer quantity over quality spam.
>>284207953That's no Honoka's VA replying to you bro.
>>2841863105 mil a month on mobile only isn't bad for a 2d game. Of course they also have their big months too where they go into the 8 figures like most successful games do.Plus think of all the money they probably make off of merch. When I think of gacha merch, that's who I think of. And I've never played BA. Unless they don't take a cut of merch, I dunno.
>>284209052Oh haha, silly me you are right. Maybe that's why he likes her so much.
>>284187192Thankfully paper is famously immune to fire, water damage, and animal infestations.
>>284209052>>284209190The OrcTaku keep coming in their hordes but they will die to this blade.
>>284189024Touhou has it's own market events in Tokyo and Osaka with some mini markets elsewhere.It's cheaper and easier to sell at the 2hu focused events than it is in Comiket.
>>284186695comiket is all porn bruh
>>284187192this archive exists solely to catch on firejapanese honor... we must carry on in dutiful respect of the past... having made no preparations for this moment whatsoever...
>>284209629>says this>while OP shows uma musume in place 4>and everyone knows that all uma musume material must be sfwRetard award.
>>284190089So the problem is pathetic idol otaku?
>>284187385>At least since the fujos who built the doujin scene got cucked out of it in the 80s with the lolicon boom.>>284190336>he's talking about how Azuma and others started making lolicon stuff specifically because they thought comiket had gotten too gayThe fujo was still a premier force in the comiket until the late 2000's.At one point there were 3000 doujins about prince of tennis in comiket 2003, that means 1 in 10 books were fujo material. It was really a lack of a strong fujo mainstream series the reason why their numbers ar dwindling in comiket.
>>284209840my sincerest apologies, it is only majority porn
>>284209942I like fujos. I think they make otaku culture more fun and are perhaps a necessary evil.
>>284190095Hello, Marineschizo. Having another woman moment?
>>284186088Holy shit, why are ebeggars with anime avatars so high
>>284209629Blatantly not true
>>284210318well it should be
>>284200052>Then in late 2015 and early 2016, I started watching vtubers almost religiouslyYou jumped on the wrong timeline anon, or you are simply full of shit. Kizuna Ai only started to explode in popularity December of 2016 and it was just a japanese thing. And she was doing video not streaming, so the scene was totally different. I call you full of shit.
>>284201635>Oldfags are continuously seething over newfags and their strange obsessions.A tale as old as time.
>>284186088Touhou will still be on that list ten years later.
>>284210523I watched Kizuna Ai's debut "live", streaming wasn't a thing yet but I did watch her video the same day she uploaded it as it was recommended on my feed. She uploaded almost daily and I watched all of it so YT also recommended me Siro and Tokino Sora not too long after Kizuna. I think I stopped watching vtubers in late 2020, western vtubers just made the space unbearable and somehow it just kept getting worse.
>>284194728It did in spirit because in order to win, Idolm@ster basically turned into Love Live with school idols and shit.
For how xenophobic the Japanese are supposed to be, they're surprisingly casual about letting China and Korea just slowly usurp their anime aesthetic from right under their noses.
>>284211052They are xenophobic compared to the modern West but not the 60s West I think they are even less xenophobic than the 90s West.
>>284192277>my slop is better because its not made of trash, its made of garbarge
>japan's most recent attempt at a 3d gacha crashed and burnedOne day, we'll get a revolutionary Japanese dev to push Japan to the forefront for 3D gachas and we can be free from the chinaslopOr maybe it's just owari da
>>284211235Different mentality. Jap treats gacha as disposable garbage, while serious developers will just make “proper” gamesChink treats it as something serious
>>284210948Well, you watched Kizuna Ai one year before her debut and Siro and Sora didn't debuted until half a year after her. So yeah, you are either jumping from another timeline or just repeating what you read on the internet.
>>284186088Touhou, idolm@ster, type moon and gundam are the strongest franchises here because they have been at the top for more than 20 years and will most likely continue being at the top for more years
>>284186088TOTAL KOREAN VICTORY
2hu 4eva >>>/wsg/6042604
>>284200116You are remarkably stupid, the other guy is too polite to tell you this straight up but I'm not. You probably clap like a seal and shit yourself when the vwhores on the screen make funny noises.
>>284191242>Gacha doesn't produce good animeSpeak for yourself faggot.
>>284212012>>>/jp/50387986 too
>>284212012>>284213088Why?
>>284211052>usurpAnime was, is and will always be japanese.
>>284211052This might be surprise for you but 80% of japanese doesn't care about anime and manga, otaku is just minority
>>284213244If you see a post saying something like "JAPAN IS OVER, CHINA/KOREA WILL DOMINATE" don't bother replying because it's a /pol/-brained shitskin schizo that unironically believes Japan has gone woke and that China and Korea will save gaming and anime from "wokism" or some culture wars talking point.
>>284194728>>284211047With Gakuen and other iM@S branches still active in Comiket (namely Cinderella Girls, Million Live and Shiny Colors), plus the two main groups of LL! gone, is there really any chance of LL! to outperform iM@S in the field of Comiket numbers in the near future? The fans of LL! can boast their Oricon numbers and the music sales, but they should know by now that their franchise is not as mighty as they once were. The SIF2 Fiasco is a proof of it.
I hate salesfagging so much
>>284213321I wouldn't even care if Japan was shitting out isekai games at this point, I just want them to drown out the chinaslop
>>284213586well then the cart titan just made your wish come true
>>284186088I find it so funny that Azur Lane barely has a fourth of the number of doujins that Kantai Collection does, despite how much Azur Lane sells itself on sex appeal (especially in the last 2-3 years with how borderline pornographic a lot of the newer skins are).That's what happens when you choose to keep adding in like dozens and dozens of new characters with barely any memorable designs and even less in the way in terms of personality. You look at Danbooru or Pixiv (with AIslop removed from your search results), and you'll notice that most new Azur Lane fanart is for the earlier (year 1-3) girls. The new girls barely get any fanart in comparison. A new rainbow rarity girl would be lucky to even get 100 pieces of fanart within a year.It's sad.
>>284186088Can a kind anon give a tl;dr about Blue Archive’s dominance? It’s not even made in Japan right?
>>284187411As a zoomer myself I kind of wonder what is the average age of the /a/ visitor? I hope you realize that most of us are in mid 20s, not exactly young you know.
>>284202442Yet more lies. Lies that will never work.
>>284211052>>284214159If Blue Archive is a Korean product then how come it's japanese server is 6 months ahead of global/korean server?
>>284214377You don't believe in Hasu?
>>284214400Is there any BA characters with Korean names or Korea theme event yet? Is there any Hanbok and Kimchi eating scene?
>>284189339>>284206201Shitposters who need to fuck off is what they are.
>>284214561The only trace of korean that you could find in it is the in-game messaging app that sensei and his students use named Momo Talk (which is a parody of Kakao Talk).As for their name, even the china-town characters in it have japanese name instead.
>>284209937it's not idol otaku per se, it's the idol otaku that fell for it
>>284215990You believe in nothing but hate. We were having such a great Comiket thread before you showed up with your shitposting.
>>284207953They will be stopped as they have always been stopped. Shitposting and spamming is not allowed. Not on my watch
>>284194728Honoka's treachery ruined the franchise forever
>>284216180Your treachery will not be forgiven OrcTaku. You will be made to bleed
