Lesbian protagonists are getting freakier and more perverted while straight male protagonists get more prudish and boring. Take the yuri pill.
>>284206039nah, i dont have any desire to transition
>>284206087Well anon if you want to be an incel forever and never transition into a chad it's your choice, hopefully you won't axe your dick like most incels end doing because you keep watching self inserting tranny wish fullfilment like romcoms and harem. Hope you get better, even though I know you won't.
>>284206039At least post the sauce
>>284206300>incel>incel>trannySo this is your mind on yuri. Sasuga.
>>284206039And if I'm not a pervert, porn addict, or suffering gender dysphoria?
>>284207304>I'm not a pervert, porn addictThen you don't belong on 4Chan
>>284207304>I'm not a pervert, porn addictThen go back to wherever you came from
>>284206039>while straight male protagonists get more prudish and boring. Was this post written in 1980?
>>284208684Every shounen male protagonist is a prude these days.
>>284206039>straight male protagonists get more prudish and boringAre you still using floppy disks and dial up on your computer? Because this line is so outdated as fuck.
>>284209398sure man
>>284208684>>284209539Reminder most yurifags here don't read shit that doesn't pander to their fetish. If you ask them to elaborate you'll get a vague answer.
I don't understand yuricucks. When the straight male protagonist is tearing up all the crease with his chad dick, it's gay and cucked. When he's not, it's prudish and boring. Why not just cut the circus act and tell us what your actual problem is
>>284206039Pero
>>284210805>cuckcuckcuckKill yourself.
Been noticing a lot more foot kino in dykejins
>>284206087You sure? You're sounding very gay to me.
>>284214230All thanks to Shuukura
manga name?
What's a good yuri that has a good pussy eating scene (or multiple)
>>284210805It's gay when all the women want to fuck him just because he's the MC or he gets a girl in the end we've never seen him have any chemistry with
>>284210805>tearing up all the crease with his chad dickThat's gay as fuck.>When he's not, it's prudish and boringYes, and?
>>284217405So why pretend to have a real criticism if you’re just queefing about males?
>it's not true that a lot of straight male protagonists are overly prudish>>284183460Even fans of heterosexual romance series complain about/defend this aspect of their writing. Obviously there are exceptions, but a majority of straight seinen and shounen romance series will only feature a small amount of on-screen physical intimacy (that's mutual) between the leads.
>>284218675Sexually active protagonist is harder for them to self-insert.
>>284210805They just like to twist the narrative to bash het on every opportunity. Meanwhile yuri stories get a free pass whether the protagonist is promiscuous or prudish.
>>284220243>>284220243The main problem isn't the prudishness, although I personally find being unable to handle lewdness to be an unattractive trait for male characters. It's how long a lot of straight stories for guys take to move past that phase and how quickly they end once it does. This is a yuri story with a prudish MC. Even though she's embarrassed, she's still dating/kissing her girlfriend by the middle of the third volume, plus the series is still ongoing.
>>284220243this/thread
>>284218675Normal het readers don’t queef about the male protag’s behaviors/traits because they don’t need him to railroad them hand-in-hand through every single aspect of the fantasy. For some reason retarded brown people just absolutely have to know what the author’s sex fantasies are. The real problem here is people pretending to want boisterous MCs but seeing hetsex is like sunlight to a vampire for them, so they have no right to complain about it.
>>284210805>yurifag is a single personholy fregoli
>>284220957>im a special yuri snowflakeArgue his point then
>>284220663Do you really no have no limits on acceptable behaviour/traits of male protagonists? Would you accept a male protagonist broke out sobbing in fear every time he saw a girl or who lets other guys fuck his girlfriend? I certainly wouldn't. Beyond that, the problem isn't walking through every aspect of the fantasy, it's blueballing and delaying it for so long. Take this scene from the popular romcom Sono Bisque. It's clear that Gojo and Marin are into each other at this point, so why does it go back to the status quo? You don't even need to show anything; something happening off-screen would be far more personally rewarding than what we got. Even if you personally like this, can't you see why other people would be frustrated by constant moments like this? >seeing hetsex is like sunlight to a vampire for themI liked Nukitashi last season. It helps that the source it's based on is a VN compared to a manga/LN. In fact, if more straight romcoms were like VNs, only replacing the sex scenes with kissing or romantic interactions scenes, I would have far less problems with the genre as a whole.
>>284206039>gettingWasn't one of the first big yuri manga ever about a girl sexually assaulting her step sister?
>>284221365maybe read romance instead of romance comedies if you dont want comedy and want more romance
Take the marriage pill
>>284221016>arguing schizoid delusionno
>>284221763Fine then continue being OP’s little lapdog concubine bitch while pretending you’re not the same as him
>>284221813stop getting mad over fiction
>>284221831Talking to the wrong guy. Try this dude >>284206039
>>284221365>It helps that the source it's based on is a VN compared to a manga/LN.Since VNs are complete works, just read shorter and complete manga and LNs.
>>284221861>i -im not mad because this guy is even more mad
>>284221915>were not all the same!!!! im a unique yuri snowflake!!! >no I wont say shit to the other guy
>>284221941calm down
>>284221365Of course there are limits but it’s just a function of what you want out of the story. For example I wouldn’t want an extremely emotional MC making everything about his period pains in the context of a romantic comedy because it’s not comedic and it’s not romantic. Within a different genre though you can’t say the same about Shinji because being a bitch is central to his character arc and the story. You wouldn’t want an MC that makes the love interest seem unfaithful or raises the specter of it, unless you’re an NTRcuck.>it's blueballing and delaying it for so long. Take this scene from the popular romcom Sono Bisque. It's clear that Gojo and Marin are into each other at this point, so why does it go back to the status quo? You don't even need to show anything; something happening off-screen would be far more personally rewarding than what we got.No I seriously don’t need more than this. I can already see exactly what the author is jerking his cock to in this scene and precisely how he wants it to go down which is honestly a bit cringe. What would I gain from off-scene intercourse between Gojo and Marin? It’s really just relationship gossip. Being unable to return to the status quo afterward would be the actual problem because we no longer have the same pre-relationship arena to get to know Marin in. The point of this scene is to just hold your hand through imagining how Marin acts during sex without escalating the plot to that level.I didn’t like Bisque Doll because I thought Marin was a bit boring but I don’t care about “blue balling” as long as it’s done with attention to the actual main characters. Komi-san stalled me out with indefinite focus on side characters that I didn’t care about, not escalating directly to sex within 3 chapters after making eye contact doesn’t matter. The problem about not blue balling is that sex ends when you cum.
>>284221561Maybe these romcoms should instead call themselves comedies if they're not going to feature any romance. It's weird because, when I read shoujo romcoms, there is a good balance of romance/comedy. When I read seinen/shounen yuri romcoms, there is a good balance of romance/comedy. When I read seinen/shounen romcoms with straight female MCs, there is a good balance of romance/comedy. When I read seinen romcoms that are rarely published in the same magazines that also publish the previous two kinds of stories, there is a good balance of romance/comedy. Everyone else seems to understand the assignment, but no, people like me should continue to search for the needle in the haystack in the genre.
>>284221869I don't have to wait for the other genres, so why should I have to wait for them? I'm also not reading 100+ chapters even if I know there's a kiss at the end.
>>284222090You're right that it is based on what you want to see out of the story, and I want to see romantic actions, which means an overly prudish MC is going to be turn off for me.>being unable to return to the status quo afterward would be the actual problem because we no longer have the same pre-relationship arena to get to know MarinFirst of all, the author is a woman, but you can still get to know someone when you are in a relationship with them. Why is the pre-relationship better than a post-relationship where we also see them kiss/hug/hold hands rather than constantly inventing contrived situations for them to engage in physical contact? It practically doesn't even matter in the given example because Gojo acts like its a fucking burden that she's being so clingy even after they start dating. I'm not even asking for 3 chapters. I think three volumes is enough time to establish a good relationship before moving on.If this is your preffered style of romance, fine, but I can't understand people who want to insist that it's weird that people want to see something different.
>>284214230About damn time
>>284222580forgot muh pic
>>284222603sauce?
>>284222544>Why is the pre-relationship better than a post-relationshipIt’s just more railroaded. The prudish MC is symbolically the author stepping aside instead of making it about what the MC wants and what turns the MC on. I don’t want Marin to be a hentai slate with no personality but I also really don’t need to know every sexual detail that the author gets off on. There have been couples that I’ve become invested in that I’ve wanted to see be lovey dovey but there’s a stark difference in the way I think about the girls in those works versus girls like Marin, and I also happen to know there’s plenty of relationship gossip stories in other genres.>people who want to insist that it's weird that people want to see something different.It really doesn’t seem like that’s what’s happening. It seems silly to me that this anon (or you) >>284222116 makes the case that there’s 50 genres out there that provides what he wants but he’s befuddled by the one that doesn’t. This thread is made by someone angrily shilling one of these genres and insisting that this one is weird. I never see people crying about shoujo, I only see 200 threads a day about how “unrealistic” or “le bad” Gojo is.
>>284223125The one that doesn't is the most popular, with the most popular seinen/shounen romcoms getting 5x as a many works and sales as the other genres I described combined. And the criticism goes both ways, people make fun of female wish-fulfillment stories and call yurifags cucks. If the works were equal in popularity, there would be far less to complain about.>the prudish MC is symbolically the author stepping aside instead of making it about what the MC wants and what turns the MC onThis sounds like word salad to me. The series is already a fantasy for readers (which is completely fine) who want to imagine lots of attractive women falling for them, so it's weird to suggest that this being done out of grace. Based on your response, which I see as reflective of a broader fan base, it seems more likely that the romcom/harem audience is simply made uncomfortable by too much romantic interaction for whatever reason.
>>284223646>The one that doesn't is the most popularBeing the most popular doesn’t imply that the consumers insist that you are weird. It definitely sounds like the criticism is moving the other way.>suggest that this being done out of graceI’m not saying this is being done out of grace I’m just saying it’s being done intentionally because it’s the axial mechanic for making it a fantasy for the reader, likely for no reason other than it’s popular. >uncomfortable by too much romantic interactionI haven’t looked but I’m certain there’s a trillion fanfictions out there about Gojo and Marin fucking in various flavors but there probably aren’t many featuring original characters. I think everyone is uncomfortable to the extent that they are cautious to not produce or consume something that says too much about themselves
>>284224061It certainly feels that way, but maybe I have a persecution complex.>there probably aren’t many featuring original characters>https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=gojou_wakana+kitagawa_marin+hetero&pid=294 (~300 work)>https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=kitagawa_marin+hetero+-gojou_wakana&pid=714 (~750 works)Looking at fanart, we can see that there are double the amount of works where Marin fucks a guy other than Gojou. How do you square that with your claims?
>>284224551>How do you square that with your claims?Stipulating fanfiction was actually important to what I was saying cuz I presume the philosophy of use and culture for fanart is different. I don’t have any major thoughts on the fanart trends but I will say almost all of those dicks are practically disembodied as opposed to belonging to a discernible oc
>>284225140Fanfiction is a different audience though (more female dominated), especially when you only look at the English fanfiction scene.
>>284225412True and I think there’s another point to be made there about the appeal of romantic writing as opposed to raw visual stimulus as it relates to audience gender demographic but here specifically it probably just accounts for difference in the amount of material. The point was about the audience’s level of comfort towards depictions of romance which is more commonly the objective of fanfiction than pornography (there is some overlap, but ‘romantic moments’ per se aren’t generally masturbatory)
>>284220243You forgot to add>WHY AREN'T THEY FUCKING BY THE 3RD VOLUME?!??!?!
>>284220458>It's how long a lot of straight stories for guys take to move past that phase and how quickly they end once it does.As before, while it's true that this used to apply, it's no longer anywhere as true in the current decade.>>284221365>It helps that the source it's based on is a VN compared to a manga/LN.Personally, I find that anime based on LNs that were originally WNs, rather than original LNs, have a better chance. The problem with VNs is the multiple routes and anime adaptations almost always only adapt one (the only exception I know of being Yosuga no Sora).
