I SUMMON POT OF GREED TO DRAW 3 ADDITIONAL CARDS FROM MY DECK
>>284425800
>>284425828
>>284425800In what style should I draw the cards pot of greed tells me to draw?
>>284425800That description doesn't sound right.
>>284425939As dramatically as possible. We'll add musical stings in post.
>>284425950But do I have to use my hands to pick up the cards or my feet and then put them on my hand?
MY TURN
>>284426096I SUMMON DARK MADI-MAGICIAN
>Name 1 black African anime character more based than the PharaohYou can't because he's the G.O.A.T. black anime character.Piccolo in top 10 but not above Atem.
>>284425800WTF I LOST ALL MY LIFE POINTS
>>284426144BUT THATS NOT ALL
>>284426594I'm so autistic I thought he was being serious.
>>284425950Why did Yugioh become like this...
>>284426634Have you checked the last place you saw them?
>>284426594We were pharaohs and so
>>284426682Rule sharking
>>284425800That doesn't sound right but I don't know enough about Pot of Greed to dispute it!
>>284426669I ALSO SUMMON JACK'S KNIGHT
>NOOO YOU CANT JUST DRAW 2 CARDSWhy is the banlist like this
>>284425950this is just confusing. it should be "those cards can be used this turn AS if they were in your hand all along"
>>284426594Atem is macedonian
>>284427943Because it's a "false choice". If it were allowed, everyone would have to take it.
>>284427943Because card like these effortlessly thins the deck and takes away the RNG element of a card game
>>284428970But enough about Ash Blossom.
>>284425800>Hearthstone but ugly
>>284429507Hearthstone has literal tranny cards
>>284426594cute dress
>>284425950
>>284430213Magic is for crossovers and homosexuals.
>>284427943https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/genesys/You can run 3 copies of Pot of Greed in your deck with the new point system.
>>284430213If I was still playing MTG at the time I probably would have brought these, how much was it for the set of 5?
>>284430305full text lands are 8 dollars a copy last time I checked.So if you have around 24~ lands in a deck it would be around $200+ plus tax just for the basic mana base.So around $1000 for 20/20/20/20/20 plains/islands/forests/swamps/mountains
>>284425800That is NOT how it works!
>>284425800I cast Pot of Greed, which allows me to AI Generate two cards.
>>284430228Yugioh also has dykes (many archetypes) and brown men (Albaz). Albaz is shipped with a blonde princess in his story.
>>284430213I miss Duel Masters. Never cared about Magic.
>>284425899kek
>>284430930lesbians are inoffensive unless youre a schizo and albaz doesnt act like a nigger
>The most popular story is about a cute Catholic girl getting Blacked
>>284426737Rule sharks should get publicly humiliated in tournaments.
>>284432564It's also one of the card stories with the most chances of getting an anime adaptation if we go by current trends.
>>284426594Which was your favorite of the 3 Egyptian god cards? For me, it's The Winged Dragon of Ra.
>>284425950>Those cards can be used as if they were in your hand all along before this card was activatedThis is abusable. You can just activate a card you don't have in your hand, and then draw it later with Pot of Greed.
>>284425800I'm a complete illiterate to Card Games. Why was this banned and Professor Research from Pokémon TCG Pocket was released?
>>284427943Because modern yugioh ends in 2 turns
>>284432564Its literally just Breath of Fire.
Is the synchro difficult to understand? Is that the current meta?
For me it's Graceful Charity
>>284433141Since the deck is shuffled randomly before play, the more cards you've drawn, the better the chances you've reached your deck's combo or ace or whatever card you need. Each turn you start by drawing one card. If you get this card you can immediately draw two so it's as if you got two draws instead of your usual one.All it does is make you slightly more likely to draw the card you need. But since it has zero downsides*, if the card were unbanned, every single deck without exception would contain one. Because every single deck is about finding the cards you need. If more than one copy were allowed, every single deck would contain the maximum amount. Any deck without this card would be at a disadvantage compared to decks with the card. So the only reason it's banned is so every single person doesn't have to put one in their deck.*Not strictly true, your opponent could attempt to activate something to negate your usage of this card, but the effect as written on the card itself has no downsides.
>>284426737>>284432728What's rule sharking?
kek at this faggot trying to make Albaz "blacked". Truly mutt hours
>>284430946Isn't Duel Masters literally just rebranded Magic?
>>284433865When you try to take advantage of the rules to win a game, usually in a very petty manner.For example you keep calling a judge to accuse your opponent of stalling for time because he is reading cards or things like that.
>>284433528i remember when discarding cards was a negative
>>284434046Its magic without lands which makes it infinitely better.
>>284430930not only that entire Albaz deck goes around getting the other pregnat and use your rape babies agasint them (fusion summon using both fields as materials)
>>284425800Based
>>284434087I too remember that time that never existed
Tribute summoning Summoned Skull. Peak gameplay
>>284434065Huh. Sounds like assholery not rule sharking.How was Pot of Greed used in such a manner?
>>284434065>accuse your opponent of stalling for timeYou are stalling for time and everyone knows it. They had to change the time rules for a reason.
>>284434456Pot of greed wasn't used in such a manner, but that image >>284425950is an exaggeration of something that's called "problem solving card text", which is a thing that cards have now, and other old cards were errata'd to make the conditions, costs and effects of the cards and their timing readable and consistent.I'm going to make this hypothetical out (because I don't remember the card names, but it is the kind of thing that happened):You have a spell that lets you summon any monster with "Malefic" in its name. It is obvious that it's a card that's supposed to only summon monsters from the "Malefic" archetype (Malefic Cyber End Dragon for example). Then one faggot would summon a card named (I'm making this one out) "Maleficant super giga magician" and it's stupidly strong. It contains "Malefic" in its name, right? But it is against the original idea of the card and the Malefic archetype.The rules of yugioh are about being fair and honorable, and not winning advantage in unfair manners and they would knowingly go against that (the manga/anime are a different beast kek)So they fixed most of those and other shit while they were at it. That's why cards have a wall of text now but they are very consistent in what they do and (provided you know how to read them) there are no misunderstandings or if there's any the judge can quickly clarify them
>>284434456As you can see from this thread, Pot of Greed is the single most complex card in the game. Players can realistically feign ignorance of its detailed effects to stall.
>>284425950Wait what you can't even use the cards after drawing them now
>>284435411Decks size is 40-60
>>284430228So for me.
>>284433104Under this logic, you could play a pot of greed you don't have in order to draw it
>>284434423Unironically.
>>284435697It's a viable strat if you find yourself losing and Pot of Greed was legal.You just announce that you are activing pot of greed that you are gonna draw, and you don't lose as long as you actually draw it.
>>284427943So imagine you have a standard 40-card deck. You have a 1/40 chance of drawing any given card you need for a combo to win the game. That's a 2.5% chance.Pot of Greed lets you draw 2 cards. But it's also a card itself, which means 3 cards were drawn out of your deck in total. Now modern Yu-Gi-Oh lets you include 3 each standard spell cards in your deck at once, so that's 3 Pots of Greed. Which means your deck is now inherently 9 cards smaller, so the chance now of drawing the card you need becomes 1/31. AND you get more cards per turn, while your opponent doesn't. This is so valuable that if it was allowed every single deck in existence would run Pot of Greed. So it's eternally banned.Compare it to another broken card, Maxx "C". This is a monster card that when discarded, for one turn lets you draw a card every time your opponent Special Summons a monster. "Oh that's not too broken" you might think, but modern Yu-Gi-Oh is filled to the brim with extensive card effects that search out and Special Summon monsters. Many of them chain into each other and combo, letting that duelist essentially play Solitaire for ten minutes. Maxx "C" gives the opposing player all the cards they would need during this to instantly win the duel.
>>284429507But Hearthstone is just>MTG but ugly(er)
>>284438519Bill of Greed
>>284430657This text on a Pot of Greed shoop with Altman's face on the pot would be kino
>>284430213When I played Magic I used tokens to indicate tapping lands instead of turning them sideways.
Cool thread you got hereHOWEVER
>>284433141YGO has no resource system, unlike any of the other card game. Cards in hand themselves are the resource.This is why drawing and searching is way more powerful and relevant in YGO than any other card game.
>>284435131Your example is bad in that it's an egregious mistake in the card text.Anyway, in card games for adults, i.e. Skat, we have the following rule:"Every player should behave in a fair, sportsmanlike and objective manner and not seek to gain advantage by questionable practices."A ref is going to tell you to get the fuck out if you try anything silly.
>>284434087Discarding your own Blue Eyes White Dragon and then using Monster Reborn to special summon it was always the Timmy Strat.
>>284434423>Card that requires a single tribute is equal to or stronger than the vast majority of two-tribute, fusion, and ritual monstersDid Konami seriously think that having low defense points counted as a drawback?
>>284440424That would be on Takahashi I think.He just made the cards whatever was needed, so Summoned Skull was 2.5k as a one tribute (Because "tributing" wasn't even a thing yet) and Blue-Eyes 3k as two tributes as the "strongest" card.Konami ended up just having to print them like that early on, and so it stuck (Since the two tributes can't be stronger than 3k anyways).
>>284426594>black AfricanLmao
>>284438519This makes the Yu-Gi-Oh player piss and shit themselves
>>284441645Nah. Different game, different rules.Pokemon is bottlenecked by Energy requirements more than anything. Prof Oak is a much crazier card anyways.
>>284425800Then I attack and I win, right? Cuz you don't have any monsters...
>>284435131That example of yours is really just an issue with translated cards since the original effect is written with the original Japanese card names in mind. So simple shit like "effects cards with x in the name" gets turned into "effects card with x in the name, as well as these other 10 cards, but not these 3 cards" due to inconsistent renamings and translations.
>>284430213So as I pray, Unlimited Card Works!
Draw some cards, dude.
>>284442739Thread has already been Droll'd
>>284435131If you want a real example, the card nimble momonga would summon "two cards of the same name" so I'd use it to summon two copies of dark magician from my deck during playground yugioh. It didn't get an errata for a while. One of the dark revelation sets, I think?
>>284433528Disgraceful CharityNormal spell cardDiscard 2 cards. Draw 3 cards.
>>284433872He is still brown and paired with a blonde white looking girl. It's arab/indian blacked.
>>284440589Summoned Skull was 7 stars in the manga.
I always liked that Yu-Gi-Oh let you call heads or tails on coin flips. Pokemon always said "if heads". I don't know why but I felt like Pokemon was insulting my intelligence and Yu-Gi-Oh wasn't since I could call tails if I wanted to. Then I got mad when Barrel Dragon didn't say "toss 3 coins and call them" but forced you to call heads just to make the effect more straightforward.
>>284425800I tribute 2 monsters to summon Millionbrave Kaiser in attack position.
>>284445381Cool. I'm gonna attack it with my Spirit of Yubel for game.Better luck next time.
>>284446076What is the point of cards being removed from play if so many effects can bring them back? It's just a fourth pile for fourth pile's sake (deck/gy/extra/banished).
>>284446115Nah, barring special decks who revolve around it, its the real GY now. The GY is too easy to interact with and most decks revolve around it. Thats also why its called "Banished" now.And yes, even back in the old days, there were always cards (Monster Reborn, etc.) that could interact with the GY.You might think being banished is no big deal, but there is a reason a card like Dimensional Shifter is one of the most hated cards in the ga.e.
>>284446115always has been
>>284445139As was Jinzo, the other iconic super strong one tribute monster
alright /a/, tell me how you'd resolve this card
>>284446746losing the game by deckout
>>284425950I don't understand shit about Yugioh as a game, but I find it very funny that a rule as simple as "draw 2 cards" has become this incredibly controversial original sin-tier mistake.
>>284445356why would it mean insulting your intelligence? I agree giving the player this little bit of agency sounds more fun, but surely you realise it's a purely psychological effect
>>284446778you can't activate the card unless you have 59 cards in deck
>>284446746They should have a "draw all cards except for 2"
>>284438519
>>284446852sex sex sex anal sex with nemona
>>284446808There is a 60 cards deck limit. The only way this card doesn't make you lose the game is if you had 60 cards at the beginning and manages to bring all the other cards from your hand, graveyard and that were removed from play back into your deck somehow.
>>284446852ugly brownoid
>>284446808I wouldn't put it past people to find some way to reshuffle every card back into their deck except for Pot of Greeeeeeeed
>>284446787there are plenty of cards that draw two in modern Yugioh (hell, even some that let you search two cards from deck), but they either have a significant cost to activate (like banishing 1/3 of your extra deck), or condition (if your opponent activated a monster effect this turn) or require you to be playing a specific deck (like having to control a monster of a specific archetype)Pot of Greed isn't all that overpowered by today's standards, the problem with it is that it's free card advantage that if legal, becomes mandatory in every single deck
>>284446787In yugioh there are no resources, you can play every card in your hand you can activateThis means that drawing more cards is INSANELY goodAdd to that, pot of greed doesn't have any requirement to activate whatsoever, meaning it can be played in ANY deck in any situation or boardstateThis means EVERY DECK plays 3 pot of greeds if pot of greed is legal, and whoever draws more pots of greeds has an instant massive advantage
>>284446881exactly. that's why I'm wondering if someone can figure out how to resolve it
>>284446790>he can't reliably flip a coin to land on the same side
>>284446906activated my milf card
>>284446991It used to be unlimited for both the normal deck and the fusion deck in pre-Synchro rules until some german guy came with over 2000 cards to a tournament. He was disqualified because he couldn't shuffle hid deck properly. Later it was revealed that he was actually a judge dor Yugioh tournaments and the reason why he did it was to pay attention to this "problem". It seems to be a rather non-issue if the only person who did this was someone who didn't like the no card limit rule and did this to create a rule for it.
>this card is legal
>>284446746special summon Apprentice Illusion Magician by discarding Localized Tornado, then use her effect to add Dark Magician to hand (other options are Nightmare Apprentice or Dark Magician Girl the Magician's Apprentice, you just need something to discard the trap and then add something to hand)activate Boogie Trap by discarding 2 cards (including the card you just added) to set Localized Tornado from GY (it can be activated this turn)set Pot of Greeeeeeeed (last card in hand)activate Localized Tornado to shuffle all cards from hand and GY into the deckactivate Pot of Greeeeeeeed
>>284425800>3 ADDITIONAL CARDS>3Uh why the version that I played only draw 2?
>>284440424Summoned skull meta was the golden age.
>>284447677You didn't believe in the heart of the cards enough
>>284426594Ash should have won.
>>284425950kek
>>284446906I also hate how pokemon went woke.A wokie might say "you just hate brown people." Actually what I hate is subversion. There were no brown people before. The only reason there is now is not because they were creatively inspired to put them in, it's because they felt pressured to. And that's why I hate it. It's not an honest creative expression.
>>284448687That's been happening since at least gen 6, arguably gen 3. It shouldn't take idpol shit to realize.
>>284448759Don't forget the bmwf trainer classes in X and Y. Yugioh has one implied brown male white female shipping with Albaz and Ecclesia and Albaz is also harembaited a bit.
How do characters in the show know what cards do when there's no effects written on the cards?
>>284448687They removed skirts for the girls too.
>>284446906>>284448687>>284448932I have to wonder what kind of life a person leads to end up obsessing over such things
>>284449772But I really like skirts..
Greed is my favorite deadly sin
>>284449772High iq and immune to propaganda. Same kind of person who notices the music in any scene and points it out like "listen to the music trying to make people feel ___"
>Tea vs Crump>It's against the Big Five so Deckmaster rules are in effectOkay.>Crump chooses Nightmare Penguin as his Deckmaster because it gives an Umi-like boost to his birds>Tea chooses Dark Magician Girl as her DeckmasterThat's a terrible Deckmaster, you can't use her effect without summoning her to the field.>Dark Magician Girl is sentient and can talk to and advise TeaWhat>Tea throws away Pot of GreedUh>Tea draws Graceful Charity later and says she has no more moves to playUhhhh>She fields Dark Magician Girl out of desperation, who activates her Deckmaster abilityWhat Deckmaster ability? What?>It summons all the monsters in her Graveyard and lets Tea draw 4 more cards, forcing a Destiny DrawWhat????
>>284449827You are not immune to propaganda. You've simply brainwashed yourself into thinking you are. Easily strung towards a conclusion.
>>284446746
>>284449833>She activates Sage's Stone without knowing what it does (implying she put it in her deck without knowing what it does)>Its effect summons Dark Magician to the field if Dark Magician Girl is already on the field>But Tea didn't put Dark Magician in her deck>So it instead summons it from Yugi's deck, as Yugi is standing nearbyWhat the FUCK
>>284449849t. easily strung alongI can tell because you get mad when people notice things and say "what kind of person notices things doesn't get strung along?"
>>284449915All I have to do is provide the right bait. Just enough to drive you to a conclusion. That's all it takes. You're so easy it's pathetic.
>>284449827>a pseudo-intellectual midwitGot it.
>>284449827>Same kind of person who notices the music in any scene and points it out like "listen to the music trying to make people feel ___"Oh, so a midwit who thinks himself a genius for figuring out something everyone already knows: music is used in movies, anime, etc to accompany the emotional beats.
>>284446787Effectively unless you're doing some insanely gimmicky shit there would be no reason to ever not have three pots of greed in your deck because it effectively means you have a 37 card deck instead of 40
>>284449426I think they have card text, it's just not drawn in the show. One of the plot points was the Ra card had actual text on it written in heiroglyphics or some shit and nobody besides Marik could read it.
>>284450394Damn, the anime really is about who can cheat better
>>284450394Speaking of this, why was Ra the only Egyptian God whose powers Pegasus was unable to translate? Shouldn't Slifer and Obelisk's powers have been inscribed in hieroglyphs too?
>>284433865When you lift up your opponent's skirt while she's looking something up in the rulebook.
>>284450523Ra's was written in egyptionics
>>284449426No card text is a dub thing because they were too lazy to rewrite the small jap textbox.
>>284450739And Slifer's and Obelisk's wasn't?
>>284450815I was trying to find a happy middle ground between egyptian and ebonics
>>284432564Anon, one of the most popular and historically powerul archetype is literally BORUTO: Gishky’s next generation
>>284430213Faulty info, this never explains how the untapping process happens. Makes it sound like the card is a one-time use.
>>284440424>dark powers to confuse the enemyWhat's the mechanical application for this power during a game? Does the opponent shuffle their hand and play with their cards laid face down on the table? So it's like they're playing confused in the dark without seeing which card they're using, until they've picked it.
>>284451160It's a lore description, he's a normal monster (a monster that doesn't have any effects)They get short lore stuff in the text box instead of the effect they would normally have
I'm just gonna leave this here
>>284446746>>284446778Winning the game by deckout. Doesn't say "from your Deck"
>>284451280>I play Pot of Greeeeeeeed! This lets me draw 59 cards!>"You fool, you just drew your entire deck! On your next turn, I win!">...Ah, but it didn't say to draw from MY deck. So I choose to draw from yours!>"No. Fuck off. Get away from me. Don't you fucking touch my deck!"
>>284446787It basically IS the original sin of YGO. Part of the game's issues that plague it to this day is how the start of the game was built with incredibly poor fundamentals. Cards either had some of the strongest generic effects ever introduced into a card game or practically useless, with little in between. As decks got optimized the game eventually converged into a "goodstuffs" meta, where everyone just ran a pile of the strongest cards available because the game never gave you a reason to use anything else. Konami, in it's nonexistent wisdom, decided to simply powercreep/ban the goodstuffs, because it was the easier solution. Which means they kept building on top of these poor fundamentals with stronger and stronger cards until we get the utter mess we have now.
>>284448687>There were no brown people beforeBrock existed since Gen 1 you braindead troglodyte.
>>284451242>le leftist maymay>>>/pol/
>>284451339Kek I didn't even consider the duel disks and the distance they stand at in the anime. If there was (or is) a spell that lets you draw from the opponents deck they'd probably simply have the cards teleport or magically fly out to the other guy's hand.
>>284451339>Fuck off. Get away from me. Don't you fucking touch my deck!"These new 4kids dubs are getting wild
>>284446787The only other card just as broken as the pot is pic rel but unlike pot this card isn't always good since it still depends on how good your opponent's hand at the end of the day.
>>284451184When's the last time they added a no effect monster to the game? Seems like those are useless now.
>>284452221There's decks that use normal monsters. Gemini monsters are monsters that start off normal, but once summoned if you declare them summoned again the next turn they turn into effect monsters. Can't tell you how good they are though.
>>284451160
>>284452291Gemini are shit and nobody plays themBut there are a couple of normal cards that get played as requirement for better cards, for example the classics like dark magician and blue eyes are needed for some good fusion cards.
>>284452320Was there ever a single meta relevant gemini monster in the history of the game? I remember them always being too slow to matter even in the earliest days.
>>284452291>it's a ""normal"" pendulum monster
>>284440424God I love Summoned Skull.And everything about his design is so cool.
>>284452350Surprisingly yeah. Neos Alius popped up a few times in Hero Beat meta decks due to being a high attack Lv 4 beatstick that can also abuse Gemini Spark.
>>284452350Gigaplant and IL Blud were fucking bonkers back in the day.
>>284440424Charizardbros dont look!
>>284447596 (me)I just realized this doesn't work because Localized Tornado goes to the grave after it resolves, meaning you end up with only 58 cards in deck...I'm a fraud...
>>284440424Konami didn't think at all until 2004
The Summoned Skull power stance with the chest forward arms straight down really sells the design, and there's later designs like Archfiend's Ascent with his arms crossed like a fiendish Gunbuster appearing.
ワイトもそう思います
White forests had the hottest girls (both hags and cunnies) and thus deserves an anime adaptation the most
>>284452293This game looks so cheap jesus christ.
>>284425950That's completely wrong. It goes like this This spell card must be activated by placing it face up on the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th spell/trap card zone (player's choice) upon activation, the turn player looks at the top two cards of their dueling deck (not the extra deck) if the top two cards of your deck are a spell trap or a monster card, they are to be added to the hand otherwise nothing happens, once both cards are added to the hand, place the pot of greed spell card in the turn. Player's graveyard (not your opponent's)
>>284456443well, it is an in-browser fan-made simulator
What happened to the original card artist? Most new cards look generic, the yugioh artstyle is not there anymore.
>>284452221>Seems like those are useless now.They made really good normal monster support last year in Primite. Its one of the reasons Blue-Eyes was meta early this year.
>>284456529Takahashi Kazuki? He died.
>>284456550....damn, well im not interested in yu gi oh anymore now that i know this, i only really cared about the art.
>>284456529He was found dead off the coast of Okinawa
>>284451485Ah but you see, old = good, new = bad. Thus, brown characters from old games = good, brown characters from new games = bad.
Monster ideas I've been kicking around in my head like a protagonist deck>Red Sun Dragon: Fire/Dragon>Blue Moon Dragon: Water/Dragon>Green Comet Dragon: Wind/Dragon>Black Asteroid Dragon: Earth/Dragon>Yellow Star Dragon: Light/Dragon>Purple Void Dragon: Dark/DragonI know not really original, thinking mixing with several space themed cards and possibly an ace>Violet Eclipse Dragon (Fusion of red and blue)
>>284456529>the original card artistKaz wasn't the one coming up with card artworks for the vast majority of the game's existence. there has been a number of artists, although Konami has a phobia against crediting them. obviously the cards that debuted on the original manga were his, and probably the majority of the cards in the first few sets, but eventually other people took over. definitely from 2005 or so, he wasn't the one desiging most monstershis most recent original card artworks were picrelated in 2019
>>284451485Are you retarded, anon? Brock is Japanese like all other Gen 1-4 characters barring exceptions like Surge and Fantina
>>284440424And they also fucked up the naming since the OCG retroactively added it to the Demon/Archfiend archetype.
>>284449873I play this in my lightsworn deck.
>>284451451Konami going all-in on archetypes is also a product of this.
>>284425800>>284425950It's very silly how modern yu-gi-oh! is seething so much about a simple helpful card who can make you draw two cards.Nerds are afraid that their "complicate" strategy would be ruined by cards like these, this is why they wants to forbid cards. To continue summoning their 2500 /3000 monsters at first turn with their gay new rules for nerds and forbid you to play anytimes you do something.
I do not understand why do Graceful Charity made them seethes for years, it's just a less efficient Pot of Greed.
>>284458371Its funny how little you actually understand the game
>>284458428Back during the earlygame losing two cards might've been a downside, but nowadays there's tons of cards that either activate upon being discarded or require them to be in the graveyard, making the graveyard a second hand. So Graceful Charity simply does what Pot of Greed does (reduces the size of your deck to increase the odds of finding the card you need) but better, while also triggering other card effects.
>>284457400Since when does actual ethnicity have anything to do with that sort of whining? All they care about is skin tone.
>>284458428It got banned along with pot of greed because even back then dumping shit into the graveyard was good. The card is a mulligan in a game that should never have mulligan as proved by duel links when they had to nerf to mulligan skill to lock you out of using effects and it was still good.
>>284456544That's cool, I like when they add support for the classics. I think I tried a Blue-Eyes deck a few years ago, with Synchros or something but IIRC it didn't have that many normal monsters maybe only Blue-Eyes herself. There were also Red-Eyes and Dark Magician decks on the site I looked at.Synchro and Xyz actually made the game a lot more interesting to me than the old days of beatsticks + staples. I didn't understand Pendulum or Link though.
>>284460005no one likes Pendulums, so that's perfectly fairLinks are more or less like tribute summons that you special from the extra deck onto the Extra Monster Zone (one of the two zones between the two fields) or to a zone another link monster points to
>>284460005I think that's the common consensus and a big part of why Edison is more popular than Goat.
>>284460240>no one likes PendulumsI like Pendulums though
>>284460005You should check out the new Genesys format that the TCG introduced. Its a point based deck building format without Pendulums or Links.Next point adjustment is Monday even.
>>284456529To be honest I had this same complain a long time ago but not anymore. I don't know who these "new" artists are but holy shit most of them are GOOD now.
>>284461409I like the sushi cards because their artstyle reminds me of classic Yugioh.
>>284461679
>>284461409It looks like a Duel Masters monster.
>>284446076Reads like that ms paint edgy oc meme
>>284461409>>284461679one thing I'll always praise Yugioh for is how varied and all-encompassing the monster designs are. there is something for everyone
>>284442925Kekkkk
>>284462212for me, it's them
>>284462431They are based on some Konami game. The same with Gradius
>>284425800Notice how it doesn't specify where you can draw two cards from. It really can be from anywhere on the field.
>>284462486they're based alright
>>284462212The thing I still love about this game and keeps me playing is just how much different stuff I get out of the different decks, from various cute girl archetypes to super sentai to goofy stuff, its original stuff is one reason its my favorite card game.
>>284460391I only like Metalfoes as far as Pendulums go
>>284440424Originally stars simply displayed a monsters strength, often associated with the sum of it's overall stats. Monsters didn't need any tributes back then. And when they "rebooted" the OCG with LOB, and introduced tribute summoning, they kept all the stats and stars in check even though it fucked up some balancing.
>>284440424This actually was Yugi's original Ace MonsterBut they replaced it with Dark Magician in later duels because they didn't think he would catch on, or he lacked namebrand value or whatever.Also its Americanized name is retardedThe way Konami wanted to remove all references to religion, including and up to not allowed words like "Angel" or "Demon", was so bad for yugioh that it entirely crippled large parts of the game.
>>284459174In this very thread you had people bitching about an isekai dragon boy being alternately being black, Mexican, or Middle Eastern even though his dragon form is named after Britain, as is the associated literary inspiration.
>>284425800How am I supposed to play this? You're only allowed to draw once during the draw phase. I'd have to first play a card that allows me to draw cards during the main phase, or something. Or does it mean that I'm now supposed to draw 2 cards during my Draw phase instead of 1? Does it work only on the next draw or all subsequent draws?
>>284462554It doesn't specify what's meant by drawing a card.>i take out a pen and paper and draw a picture of a card that says "i win" and another that says "ur gay"
>>284462876>being alternately being black, Mexican, or Middle EasternThe fact you're grouping them all together proves my point.
>>284462972I was agreeing with you. It's bitching for the sake of it.
>>284462431I had Koitsu as a kid and always wanted to get Aitsu to pull this combo off. In hindsight it's funny how much you could reduce that text by.>You can equip this card to "Aitsu". It gains 3000 ATK and piercing.
>>284462832DESU when I was a kid this guy's name really stood out to me for how odd it was (my local dub called it "Summon the Skull" which was even more odd), and it's the sort of thing that attracted me to the series.A lot of the early localized card names were memorable for being mysterious-sounding like that, even though the logic behind them was dumb.
>>284463160I don't think much would change if they called him "Summoned Demon". They just didn't want to for the same reason they turned angel archetype into "fairy"In fact I think the mysterious quality would be improved by calling Jinzo by its original name "Android Psycho Shocker"
>Muh flood gates>I wanna special summon 30 times a turn as well>Life is so unfair>Please ban barrier statues, mystic mine, vanity's, summon limit, Djinn, Shifter, Mjolnir, Fossil Dyna, Dimensional BarrierHow about adapting to the meta and play interaction? But oh no it would make your deck 2% less consistent... I swear YGO players are so miserable.
>>284463224>>284463160It's funny because the Viz manga translation tries really hard to use the original names or at least allude to them while still having the 4kids names be the official ones. Like, when they refer to Ra they'll refer to it as "The Sun Dragon, Ra" but the full name of the card is always said "Winged Dragon of Ra".
>>284463313I still remember how the executive producer of 4kids demanded they name a god card after him, Robert SliferBecause "Osiris" was too scary of a name for kids
>>284463270>play interactionfloodgates are specifically anti-interaction cards. people don't like them because they make for unfun duels
>>284463224Ok but compare names like "Cyclops" vs "HITOTSU-ME GIANT" or "Death Foot" vs "THE DRDEK" or "Demon Beaver" vs "AIR MARMOT OF NEFARIOUSNESS"Also, I never heard the term "Fiend" before YGO so to me it'll always evoke Yu-Gi-Oh monsters and I find that pretty cool
>>284462876>peopleIts literally one guy.Source: He does this on the /dng/ thread on /vg/
>>284425950This meme was considered old and unfunny in Reddit in 2016.
>>284463578It wasn't but I wish it was.
>>284458428>less efficient Pot of Greed.
>>284462832Pretty sure they moved away from Summoned Skull because it was literally just Lord of the Pit from MTG.
>>284463645Not really similarThey moved away from him because to be an Ace Monster you have to be good looking. They wanted Yugi to summon a monster every week that kids aren't afraid of.
>>284462832>The way Konami wanted to remove all references to religion, including and up to not allowed words like "Angel" or "Demon", was so bad for yugioh that it entirely crippled large parts of the game.It wasn't wrong for Konami to do so, given previous moral panics in the U.S. over fantasy tabletop games.
>>284463682Not really similar? Anon look at the card art from the manga >>284462832 , it has the same pose and everything.
>>284463351I didn't even know that until a couple months ago. The YGOTAS joke of "Slifer the Executive Producer" went right over my head. I thought LK was just being random.
>>284456529>>284456588Do you really think a single guy designed and drew 10000+ cards?
>>284463683The fact there never was a real moral panic in America about SMT despite being 10x worse, tells me the moral panic fear was unfounded and often overblown. People censor themselves over fear of people saying things way way more than the danger people saying things actually was. If people just held their ground a little bit more it never would have been an issue.
>>284456588>well im not interested in yu gi oh anymore now that i know thisYou haven't been interested in yugioh since 2004, why is it different now?
>>284463794>there never was a real moral panic in America about SMTBecause SMT games were not released in America until 2004. The SNES ones would have never flown.
>>284463313The manga always had two different names for the gods, the ones spoken by the characters, and the English names written on the cards. Thus, one god is called Osiris no Tenkuryuu, but the card reads SAINT DRAGON - GOD OF OSIRIS.
>>284463682>Not really similarMaybe because they stopped coloring him pink.
>>284463682it's extremely similar, the hell do you mean? Summoned Skull's name is literally ripped from its card type "Summon Demon" (I don't know MtG, I'm assuming that's its type above the effect text)and Blue-Eyes is just Chromium
>>284462832>hey replaced it>they didn't thinkWho is "they"? Takahashi was in charge of the manga long before it became a franchise handled by Konami. If he switched to Black Magician is probably because he wanted to draw a monster who could cast spells and pull magic tricks, as that would make for interesting duel moments (and he might have some of Mahad's backstory planned).
>>284463794The first Megami Tensei games released in the state was SMT3 and Persona 3, both of which drew ire because demons and gayboy shooting himself with a gun.
>>284463682Check this outAlso, in the manga he had 7 stars which is the converted mana cost of Lord of the Pit
>>284440424Tribute Summoning didn't exist at all when Summoned Skull and Black Magician were first printed. The only difference was that one needed Dark Energy and the other one used Book of Secret Arts.
>>284463954Probably the same guy that told Takahashi to make the story entirely about card games, instead of being about different games of the week. I'm sure he had some editor telling him to do things. Summoned Skull was cool but they couldn't "sell" him as Yugi's big monster in the end. I'm sure Black Magician Girl was also partially an editor choice because they needed a waifu card to really sell during that time.
>>284463363Because they often brick themselves. Instead of playing MST, they wanna play knightmare phoenix for consistency, but then get screwed against twenty cards that punish special summoning. Instead to adapt to the meta, the community keeps being stubborn until Konami has to spoon feed them with bans.
>>284463683It was wrong, as censorship always is. Pokemon was aimed at even younger children yet it still overcame the outrage from evangelicals over muh evolution. YGO would've still sold if it had demons in it.
>>284463890You can tell they also reused design elements of Chromium for Cyber Dragon as well.
>>284463683Even if you wanted to claim that it was an acceptable decision back then to not get backlash in the early 00s, they're STILL DOING IT to this day.
>>284464008>both of which drew ireNocturne was completely unknown until SMT as a whole became more popular in the 2010s. I can assure you that nobody who wasn't balls deep into hardcore RPGs had heard of Nocturne back then. And there was nothing in it that was worse than the mainstreams JPRGs that sold millions.Persona 3 got memed for the guns, but there was never any real moral panic, because again, it was completely outside mainstream eye.
>>284464109It's even worse today because they censor nun habits and lit candles.
>>284457434>retroactively addedHe was always a Daemon card.
>>284464106Chromium indirectly informed the design of every single YGO dragon. They all have this "segmented" style.
>>284434065>>284435059>stalling for timeWhat? Why would a player stall for time? Is Yu-gi-oh timed like chess?
>>284464044>>284464109Do I personally think it's dumb? Sure. But objectively, I find it hard to deny the business sense of what they're doing. They understand the market they're dealing with.
>>284464228yes. you can't just have a duel go on forever in a tournamentnowadays a match running out of time means a double-loss, but until recently the player with most LP would be awarded the win
>>284462832>>284463683>>284464044That wasn't Konami's doing, 4Kids/Upper Deck did the censorship for the sake of complying with TV restrictions, otherwise the anime would've never aired and the series wouldn't take off like it did. In fact Konami was pretty hands off on the TCG side of things until Upper Deck started selling counterfeit cards of their own stock. So Konami pulled the TCG rights from Upper Deck to do it themselves. They also eventually absorbed 4kids into themselves, which is why you get weird card changes to this day.
>>284464228Rounds are timed, this prevents 2 hour long rounds while two control players jerk off for 35 turns to deck the other out for 3 games.Yugioh's rules about hitting time in the round have always been stupid. For a while, the rule is once time is called in the match, whoever has the highest LP wins the game. This prevents some decks from being competitive, since they pay LP for effects. Or a handtrap that is otherwise complete garbage to be a game winner since you drop it, gain LP, and then slow play for the last 5 minutes on your turn and win.
>>284464044Just because Pokemon, DnD, etc survived the moral panic doesn't mean it wasn't a pain in the ass to their businesses. YGO was a new franchise and there was no reason to risk it.
>>284430930>Yugioh also has dykesBased
>>284464040Modern YGO in a nutshell.
>>284464270The market of 2000 and the market of 2025 is entirely different. They know it's different too, since they will run promotions where you can get uncensored cards by buying more product. Openly admitting that there is no actual issue to having an ankh, pentagram circle, tombstone cross, cleavage, thighs, guns, or other "no-no" imagery, and instead now censor to have an artificial way to pump sales from a FOMO promotion if they feel like they need a boost. Before it might (big emphasis on might) have been excusable since ire was stronger, but now it is out of contempt and greed.
if you can't name every element that needs to be censored in this card's artwork, you don't get to work for Konami of America
>>284464929cigar, wine, woman's leg, cleavage
>>284464011Blue Eyes 8 stars are also the converted 8 mana cost of Chromium. That's why the stars didn't have any purpose at the beginning of the game they are mana cost in a game without it.Later they got a purpose for tribute summoning and cards like The Calculator, Gravity Bind and even later with Synchros and XYZ monsters.
>>284460005Links are functionally the same as Synchro Summons, except you don't need a Tuner but you're limited to where on the board you're allowed to summon them. Pendulums are in a really weird place since Links were mostly made just to nerf them to the point that they're pretty obscure outside of specific archetypes now.
>>284465635>Links are functionally the same as Synchro SummonsTribute summon from the extra deck is usually a more apt comparison since synchroes need exact levels.
>>284464464stupid sexy dykes
>>284465635>Links were mostly made just to nerf them to the point that they're pretty obscure outside of specific archetypes nowAnd now Links are the overpowered mechanic.
>>284465597close, but you're not getting the jobthe full list of censored elements is:>the bust size of the woman on the left>the exposed leg on the woman on the left>the two bottles of wine on the table>the wine glass on the man's hand>the man's cigar>the cleavage on the woman on the right>the hearts on the eyes on the man at the backand finally>the man's mustache
>>284465809>the hearts on the eyes on the man at the backThey are still looking aroused.
>>284465623I figured Takahashi simply thought putting icons in the top right corner made the cards look more like a real TCG, but yeah, he had no real purpose for them other than flavor.So many mechanics in the TCG came from Konami trying their best to adapt shit from the manga to make it "work" in a real game and then "patching" it to actually make it work. I think it's beautiful, it's a completely organic mess that's somehow not falling apart.
>>284465623>mana = tributesnice
>>284465867nah, they're just drunk (wait, kids can't know that alcohol exists) ermm, they're... sleepy...?
>>284465876The 2000 life points are based on MtG's 20 life points. The problem is that he introduced two monsters with more than 2000 life points in the very first dueling chapters, Summoned Skull and Blue Eyes and others who had life points that were close to 2000 like Battle Ox. That's why Konami had to increase the life points to 8000 in their video game and Bandai for some reason didn't include them in their card game despite them being mentioned in the very first chapter where Duel Monsters appeared and in season 0.
>>284458428It was a game changer, if you had a really shit luck to draw only +5 star monsters, magic and trap cards in your current hand, you have your cheeks open for a direct attack with no way to defend yourself. this helps to draw that 4 star monster with 2k defense everyone had back then to have a really nice free defense
>>284464929look out, that gravy is too hot!
>>284427027YOU NEVER SAW THIS COMING- I SUMMON POT OF GREED TO DRAW THREE ADDITIONAL CARDS FROM MY DECK
>>284464929I like how she's holding that gravy card that gives you like 1k life points.
>>284464493Literally me (on Empire Earth)
>>284465809The mustache was changed so he would have a reason for his hand to be there (shaping his mustache)
Why is Pot of Greed banned when there are literally cards in the game that only exist to counter it?>Card so good it's a contender for the best card in the game and had to be banned>But not good enough (I guess) to justify putting hard counters in your deck to go +1 insteadSomehow this doesn't make sense to me.
>>284466659Printed when it wasn't banned and people can play whatever the fuck they want outside of official games anywaysAnd there's dozens of less laser specific cards that also stop pot of greed
>>284465623The Calculator came out at the same time as Synchros.
>>284466477it gives 200 (what a shit card lol)
>>284464464Those are dykes though
>>284465980Bandai's card game wasn't really a game, it was just a bunch of cards sold in Carddass machines with rules printed in them. There was never a rulebook or any tournaments, and the game as written is practically unplayable.
>>284466705My question remains, why is PoG banned when counters exist?>Inb4 Jar robber wasn't good enough to risk it being a brick in your handThen simply print a better version so good it'd worth having it in your deck just in case. Like if Jar Robber would let you draw 3 cards instead, suddenly it would become much more tempting to put it into your main deck. Then players would adjust to the influx of the +3 jar robber, and perhaps even take out their PoG in the process. It's a constant back and forth and so the game kinda balances itself.
>>284466659you can't play that card when your opponent activates PoG on their first turn (the only turn that matters)
>>284466988Correct
>>284466988Aren't, I meant to say
>>284467015Print a hand trap with that effect
>>284467001As has been said three hundred thousand times before, there are no downsides to having three copies of pot of greed in any deck so it would be in every deck forever.
There are no dykes in ygo. Only retarded headcanon
>>284467001"but it can be countered!" is the most brainlet take in regards to card balance. There are a million cards that can counter Pot of Greed, and their existence doesn't make it any less broken. Counters aren't gonna be ready at all times, specially against a card that is stronger when activated early in the game.
>>284467001Spoken like someone who will always be a shitter
>>284467001Because konami needed to make pack fillers, which leads to bad cards being made. Roughly 90% of cards in this game ever unprinted have been unplayable out of the pack.
>>284467118>and their existence doesn't make it any less broken.That doesn't have to be the case. Print a card that counters PoG and let's you win the game instead. Now you have to play PoG at your own risk, all the time. Perhaps even taking it out entirely.
>>284467001>>284467068see >>284446974by having PoG legal, you automatically dumb down deckbuilding by having a card that you need to have in your deck. there's no strategy about itAND you make the first turn stronger (which is already a problem in the modern game)no one would play the counters because including cards in your deck that specifically target a card in the opponent's deck is stupid (even if it's a card everyone uses). Ash Blossom already exists, and that doesn't change the fact that PoG shouldn't be legal. not to mention, "drawing the out" is shit designagain, the problem with PoG isn't that it's overpowered, it's that it's a brainless win-more card
>>284467218You're retarded, end of story.
>Ruins the Yu-Gi-Oh Meta for life but just existing
>>284466659>>284446787>i don't get how this card is strong?? hehe i don't play the game btwThe card is not ''strong'', just boring. ofc it'll sound like the card is strong if you've to explain 1000 times why a card is banned to people who don't know how to play. so here's an explanation that maybe will get through your dumbskull this time. It's not strong, it's boring. Or at least someone thought so. Strong makes you think of a cool boss monster, and it confuses your ape brain when a banned card isn't an UR boss.
>>284467218kino
>>284467218Card advantage is king in yugioh. Say you open this pog counter. Your opponent doesn't play it T1. You now have a dead card in your hand that could have instead been used to stop their board that you are now facing down. >but what if they used pog? But they didn't, and now you lose.
>>284446746I take out a piece of paper and draw 59 little rectangles on it.
>>284435650Non YGOfag here. What variety of deck is this?
>>284435650Why Veiler over Imperm?
>>284468232looks like Magistus/Brandedthe google translate for the deck's name is pretty funny lol
>>284467779Card negation is king in yugioh.Say you open this pog card. Your opponent might have this pog counter. You now have a dead card in your hand that could have instead being used to stop their board that you are now facing down.>but what if they didn't had the pog counter?They did, and now you lose.
>>284468400Light Spellcaster fusion material/reveal for High Spirits.
>>284468477Negates like what?
Goodnight occasional ygo thread on /a/>>284463890What a ransom note of an effect
>>284470881Good Night, anon!
>>284466650The mustache was changed cuz it looked too close to Hitler's I think
You faggots have convinced me. I'll try Master Duel and play Yu-Gi-Oh for the first time in 17 years. I look forward to having a terrible time.
>>284430930Brown tomboy lolis are based. Every man deserves one. It follows directly that every woman deserves a brown shota twink. These are fundamental axioms of man, just like how it is always justified to be a NEET.
>>284458547Xyz, pendulum and everything else after fucking sucks yes.
>>284470953>DragonmaidsOh yes you're going to have a really bad time
>>284470881>occasionalThere's been at least a dozen yugioh threads over the past week.
>>284470953I like Duel Links even if its a pretty nerfed version of the gameBecause Master Duel is nothing but net play with other players, which makes it hard to really try different strategies or fuck around like I want. Master Duel is like the yugioh version of a fighting game or shooting game, you're meant to play with other people online.
>>284470953Ah, a fellow maid enjoyer. I don't even like the anime they ripoff but I love that deck.I'm looking forward to their Genesys point reduction on Monday, even if the best card the deck plays isn't legal in the format.
>>284470953Have fun, anonThe game is okay at teaching you the basic mechanics, but "learning how to play" will take lots of throwing yourself into games until you know what's up. Don't be discouraged by losing a lot
>>284471029I'm not functionally retarded and I'm pretty sure I've already gleaned the basics from a having watched a few people play recently. Seems like the hardest things to do will be to memorize extensive combo lines and their variations, as well as the obvious element of just learning what shit does and how to play around it. I'm not too worried about it. I pick games up quickly enough and in 2 days I'll have enough gems to 3x a structure deck as a starting point. Actually pretty generous, all things considered.>>284471008I played Merfolk tribal in MTG before it was "good". I'll be fine.
>>284470949Nope
>>284470953Do the Solo mods. Buy one of the better Structure Decks for 500 or 1000 gems. Then do ranking duels until you grind enough to buy your Dragonmaid deck. It doesn't matter if you don't even have one win. You just have to fulfill the other gem missions like summoning extra deck monsters or destroying your opponent cards.
>>284456544What the fuck am I looking at? Whats that suppose to be?
>>284471159Master duel is absurdly generous for the kind of game it is. I have 5k gems right now just from occasionally doing ranked and playing the event a little bit, and I was under a thousand just a couple weeks agoThe downside is the pack rng when you want all the URs for a specific archetype, but at the same time it's easy to hoard crafting points by destroying cards you don't want I was really taken aback when I tried the digital version of the dbs card game and it was so much worse in every way
>>284471293A scan of a foil card
>>284471217It would be funnier if that really was the case though
>>284471226I don't care whether or not I win. I've played anime fighters for two decades while being quite mediocre (I was pretty high ranked in DBFZ but that one doesn't count, anyone could do that), spent several years raiding in WoW at a fairly high level, and have sunk far more hours than I'd ever care to admit in League without breaking past low diamond. All of which is to say I don't mind losing or having a game kick my ass. I can enjoy myself without chashing a victory hit. Especially in a game where I'm the primary one at fault.
>>284470953Also try out Lovely Labyrinth, Diabellstar and Evil Twins.
>>284471304I've seen some videos of people throwing together 3x structure decks that cost them like $36 and performing well with them at a local tournament, even winning. I'm kind of stunned by how cheap its become to get into the game compared to when I was a kid. I kind of fucking hate Konami (they murdered Suikoden—crossing my fingers the the anime doesn't suck) but I'll give credit where it's due. Even s basic bitch commander deck that could never win shit costs twice that amount out of the box in MTG.
>>284471331I'm interested in Traptrix just because I'm amused by the idea of playing a deck consisting of carnivorous lolis (and their holes). But I'll hold off on making too many future considerations. I don't like counting my chickens before they hatch.
>>284471304>generousI can't imagine that's true the way ygo deck building works and from what I've heard about the game already.
>>284471331Ah, I see you are also a man of fine tastes
>>284440424Konami made Gorz, anon. They clearly didn't give a fuck.
>>284471331>>284471461
>>284471398I wouldn't call this game cheap in recent years but it has been actively taking steps to try and fix this. There still seems to be some bad choices and decisions but there has been a clear change in the last few months especially to change this direction, what with them putting good reprints i to pre-constructed decks.
>>284446977>This means that drawing more cards is INSANELY goodYet everything archetypes do nowadays is SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH and hand economy doesn't exist anymore since you can easily go +1 on your first turn. YGO resource management has become extremely braindead.
>>284471461And in case someone makes a comment on certain things, I have the good stuff (Need to get that alt art Raye soon though)
>>284471528Cardboard crack is never "cheap". But the difference between the onboarding cost between Yu-Gi-Oh and MTG for a new, casual player is so readily apparent that it's genuinely laughable. I may hate Konami, but news of WotC's bankruptcy would literally have me popping champagne.
>>284471564Is there anything more perfect than a yamato nadeshiko maid with glasses who exists only to serve her Master? The answer is no. No there is not.
>>284471461Love these dykes:https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/137617601
>>284471680
>>284467069you didn't read that post, right?
>>284471461>>284471564Man, reminding me I need to get new sleeves soon. The phone really does make everything look worse.Of these, Striker is my current deck, been having a lot of fun with it into the current format.Depending on how Monday's point adjustment goes, maids might become on of my Genesys decks alongside Super Quants (No Seals is hard enough, and while I get Sheou needs points for being an omni-negate, Lady's and Tidying too makes it hard to play into some of the popular stuff when your points are nearly all spent.)Labrynth is just one of my all time favorites, but she needs new support, deck struggles into the format, K9 especially.
>>284471680I don't think they are dykes since they are sister, but you do you, anon.
>>284471699Can't show the rest but I like how they clap their hands what they have done.
>>284471737Do you think evil criminals are bound by your petty morality regarding incest?
>>284471331Diabellstar's alt art reminds me of Lila from Ryza but also of Crimson from Ragna Crimson.
>>284467473Are you retarded> Pot of Greed is ridiculously strong. It literally just says "Draw an extra card this turn", while thinning your deck by 1. No/negligible downside (it can technically be countered/negated but no more than any other card you might play), and that includes the downside of literally every other card, which is that you didn't drawn another card instead, because with PoG you do.How in the hell can you say that isn't strong?
>>284471737>they are sister,
>>284472183>Literally called Evil TWINs>Not sistersOkay, retard
>>284472194Nowhere is it stated that Li-la and Ki-sikil are sisters. The Evil Twin name is a reference to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evil_twin_(wireless_networks)
>>284472762Yeah, I know what its a reference to. But even reference names have actual meaning in their own setting.Unless you can find something that explicitly states otherwise, the Twin in their name is literal.No one is required to take your head canon seriously.
>>284472067Strong yes, versatile yes, but far from being to strongest. In genesis you can play 3 pots, but no deck actually plays 3. Heck most decks don’t even wanna play 1 copy, because they would rather play an actual win condition, combo extender, or hand trap instead. Sure there’s also the point system holding it back but still…For example, Upstart goblin isn’t played anymore because modern combo decks are already consistent enough so that upstart just feels like a unnecessary extra step that can be interacted with rather than just playing another combo extender directly or having a piece of interaction directly in hand instead. I think the same could be true for a pog to some extend.
Why can't they be in lesbian with each other as well as sisters?
>>284464228There was a guy who played tournaments with a deck built around an infinite loop of card draws just so he could circumvent and mock the rulesets.
>>284472844If they were actually sisters, it would be mentioned in the lore, yet it isn't.https://yugipedia.com/wiki/The_Valuable_Book_EX_card_storylines#No._04:_Live%E2%98%86Twin_&_Evil%E2%98%85TwinThey are "a popular streamer duo", not a sister steamer duo. Them being related would be too big of an omission to make. Live Twin is simply the name they chose for themselves, not to mention they don't even look like sisters, much less twins.
>>284473278>book of lore blurbsDid they just copy paste this 1:1 for the Chronicles anime? God that was such a disappointment.
>>284425800Stardustbros where we @?
>>284473337You just reminded me that the tcg 5ds decks have been released, thank you.
>>284465809This is just too fucking retarded. I get censoring the show (not really, but you know what I mean) but the actual card art?
>>284473337Here
>>284473554A lotA LOT of the cards are censored to shit very badly for decades
>>284473583I've literally seen better cleavage on Pokémon cards. This is just insane.
ROLL MY DICE
>>284450984>He reuses his landsSounds like we've got a cheater in this thread.
>>284473639I'm no expert but probably 90% of Yugioh cards have been censored to shit over the years. And If I showed you example after example eventually you'd go into a rage how asinine the entire thing was.They REALLY wanted to erase all connections to religion from the game, like the American Localizers hated anything having to do with angels or demons, or even Egyptian mythology ironically, a lot.
>>284446746>2 card instant win comboyeah nah
One of the all time greats
>>284456443It was the peak of online YGO gaming until Percy automated the entire thing in Lua and sucked the soul of it. Now Konami run their own simulator.
>>284467370For me, it was YGO4RealMen. I miss him so much.
>>284474286To this day, his Drill Warrior deck vid is still a class
>>284473583they turned Dark Magician Girl into a fucking boy
>>284473583And then Kaz started saying no to having card art altered for DMG retrains.
>>284472067>How in the hell can you say that isn't strong?Because brainlets will be confused since to them strong means "boss monster full of effects" and they didn't immediately win the game w/ the 1 extra card, or they both played pog and got 1 card. That is confusing to them, so to clarify, it's easier to say "it has no downside, making it boring"
>>284458428>less efficient Pot of GreedIt's better than Pot of Greed. Hell, it was better than Pot of Greed even BEFORE the game got filled to hell and back with cards that auto-trigger once in the graveyard.
>>284471423>t. Weevilhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CERGa1b0wT8
>>284476406>freeIt's an infinite combo card I am going insaneeeeeeeeeeee
>>284476406kek
>>284446852You get to draw 3 but the trade off is you get raped afterwards
>>284479089By Nemona?
>>284479665>Black Magician>isn't black
Look at some of my cool cards, stopped playing around 2004 or something
>>284471015>I like Duel Links even if its a pretty nerfed version of the gameI can tell you haven't played in a while, the power creep there has gotten so bad it's actually just the main game on steroids now. Duel Links just had the second worst metagame in the game's history, with Rebecca's skill being a literal FTK factory and pulling Kashtira level shit like pic related.Also if you're curious about the first worst, that'd be Duel Link's Rush Duels and their literal Tier -1 Gaia format. Gaia has the honor of being the only deck in the franchise to ever have a 100 percent usage rate.
>>284425950yugiboomers will complain about modern card text without realising this is a reference to the original japanese text for pot of greed and early TCG cards explaining game rules in their effect
>>284462832We never even learned what where the other 4 strongest Fiends.......
>>284479763Black as in Attack magic. Like Black Mage.
>>284465809>the hearts on the eyes on the man at the back.It's actually fucking concerning that I considered that as an option and it turned out to be true.
>>284466957Costs 50$ in your path, 80 for the super rare version.What did it mean by this?
>>284480120these are all the fiends released up to 2003 with more than 2500 atk, so you could assume it's 4 of these
>>284476406it do be like that
>>284480244Zoa I can see, the rest don't work because it's all but certain that all of them would be vanilla monsters since this was DK era Yugioh. Also Zorc wasn't a real card made by Pegasus for the game, it was created by Yami Bakura just like he created Diabound so there would be no one other than him who knew about Zorc.
>>284426594sex
>>284480206the EN printings were exclusive to packs given at the 2010 and 2011 World Championshipsand in JP, it hasn't been reprinted since its original release in 1999
>>284480252>Ancestral recall in standardWhat the fuck are they thinking?
>>284479839Only Dark Magician of Chaos has actual worth anon and that's because it's a 1st ed from the set he debuted in. I would also say the Black Luster Soldier but he has a cum stain on him that been on the card for so long it turned brown.
>>284474135It was shit.
>>284474074This would hit too close to the average American player anon so please understand.
>>284480296>Also Zorc wasn't a real card made by Pegasus for the game, it was created by Yami Bakura just like he created DiaboundZorc never appeared as a card at all, it was made for the OCG. Diabound's card also only appeared in the anime, not the manga.
>>284425950top kekI hate modern Yugioh so much
>>284480244>>284480296Sticking to old-school vanilla Fiends, there's Zoa, Beast of Talwar, Ushi Oni, and Bickuribox
>>284480296>>284480397in that case, these should be the 5 strongest (non-effect) fiends up to 2003. with Ushi-Oni, King of Yamimakai and The Earl of Demise slightly behind
>>284479839Breaker was my favorite card as a kid. Sadly the only version of him that I had back then was a common from a structure deck.
>>284479839I had that dragon of chaos and I summoned it at a local tournament and the other kid was so upset about it, because it was a banned card from official matches which ours wasn't. I won the game and he flipped all the cards away
>>284480252>I'm gonna tap my grandma>opponent chucklesis it worth it
>>284451451Well-said. I still think the earlier years of the game can be pretty fun, but Konami has never known what they were doing.
>>284479941>hurricail isn't metaGame dropped and discarded.
>>284479680that's my wife
>>284479465Aye
>>284480832Silent Magician?
>>284471314Oh ok. Now what the hell am I looking at here?
>>284480964crystals in a caveprimites are about crystals and dragons
>>284480964
>>284480964They're called crystals retard, and in most fantasy media they are found in caves.
>>284481048>>284482043>>284482739Also, its a reference to the old gem dragons cards, Sapphire Dragon, Emerald Dragon (mistranslated as Luster Dragon 1 and 2), Diamond Dragon, etc. which are all normal monsters.
>>284471423Buy the structure deck from walmart. It's pretty fun to just constantly shit out cards after getting Sera out.
>>284479941I love how Duel Links made Ojama King viable.
>>284480949>>284480960The classics.
>>284485601Paizuri
Laundry
>>284487305She's doing her best.
>>284473046This is, in fact, THE best kind of lesbian.
Chamber is blushing because she knows you've come to your room while she's cleaning it to cuddle her tenderly.
>>284487378>nbrFuck off
>>284487767Am I Housekee?
>>284425950This is too much text. Shorten Graveyard to GY, that'll fix it.
>>284487378All lesbians are shit though.
>>284479941i dropped duel links when character skills began to matter more than the cards. harpies were ridiculous
>>284430213would be better if it had a one pixel tall picture at the top
>>284430213Finally, simplified and clear rules that tell me exactly how to play. Alright, I play my Island. So it goes on the stack and now you can respond to it, right?
>>284480022?
>>284473046Because some faggot made it effectively illegal outside porn.>>284487378>NBRshit>Shitrus
>>284471680STAY AWAY FROM HER
>>284488598>after drawing, destroy pot of greedIt's unnecessarily explaining basic game rules just like anon said. Of course you would destroy a non-continuous spell after activation, that doesn't need to be specified. The Japanese text of this card has been revised 3 times btw.
>>284480363Zorc is an old cardYes it does match the original Zorc from the first appearance of Bakura in the mangaIts just that Zorc got a little glow up later on when he got that tail dick thing
>>284489207But it never appeared in the manga at all, so I'm not sure where you pulled the idea that it was "created by Bakura". Zorc from Monster World also has nothing to do with Zorc Necrophiades apart from their connection to Bakura.
>>284489385I'm not the other poster, but I can say Diabound and Zorc are official cards
>>284487872Fuck of she's mine.
>>284489412I know, but they never appeared in the manga. Diabound's card was made for the anime, and Zorc's card was made for the OCG in reference to the Monster World arc.
>>284489425Back when Bakura played D&D he used Dark Master Zorc as the final boss. Zorc is Zorc, just with a little glow up
>>284489199Because that wasn't a "basic rule" back then (in the early months of the game in 1999).Spells and Traps had no classifications back then, and there were no rules about what to do with them after activating them. Pot of Greed had to specify that it was sent to the graveyard after activation because there was no rule setting it as a standard.Of note, Reverse Trap stayed face-up after being activated and was only sent to the graveyard during the End Phase, as there was no concept of a continous trap or lingering effects.
>>284489484>Zorc is ZorcWell yes, that is objectively the case.
>>284487842>>284488632There's not exactly an abundance of real, cosanguineous yuri unfortunately. Whatever happened to "1 x 1/2", I wonder?
>>284489511Then why don't other cards say the same thing? Pic related came out even before Pot of Greed in Japan and it doesn't have that text. What do you do with this card after using it if, according to you, there were no rules about that?
>>284446746>>284474056slow as fuck, you can only resolve that combo on turn 3 which is too late
>>284487767>Chame is blushingFixed.
>>284487305>LaudryFixed.
>>284490088>>284490118Personally I think they should be romanized as Hasukī, Chame, Laudry, Parla, Nasari, and Tilulu. All of those actually sound at least vaguely like names. The last one especially is a blatant Kobayashi-san reference and we already know that the character she's referencing is meant to be romanized as "Ilulu". Oh, and Latys of course.
>>284490496>we already know that the character she's referencing is meant to be romanized as "Ilulu".Well it's more because she is a Stillroom maid, but also good reasoning.
>>284490548Sure, but they clearly chose that name because it makes for a very easy, direct reference to the character in question. She even has the biggest oppai of the bunch. It's incredibly on-the-nose.
>>284490627My beloved bald demon wife
>>284489691Taiyaki restarted it from scratch and paywalled it.
>>284489199>bing translate: i break the greedy pot after I pull it.It's flavor text. This is clearly describing how on taking cards from the pot I BREAK it because I'm such a greedy bastard. After the first wave, they stopped making flavor text for spells. That's when it says "I draw 2 cards".
Played Master Duel when it first came out and had fun, but stopped just before Tearlaments came out - how's the game now? The main decks I played were Prank-Kids and Tribrigade alongside a half-built Traptrix deck.
>>284490950I knew he was restarting it but I didn't realize it was paywalled. Plenty of paywalled shit gets translated, but I guess the subject matter is objectionable enough to prevent anyone from spending the money on it to do so. It's a shame because I liked that the original really took said subject matter seriously and addressed the moral implications of it. Oh well, maybe it'll pop back up someday.
>>284489385>>284489437>the real Zorc has no cardliterally how?
>>284491029>how's the game now?the powerlevel of decks are a step higher than they used to be when you played, meaning duels tend to be even more often decided on the first turn. a fair bit of the most bullshit individual cards got banned, but you still have shit like Maxx C that ruins any duel when it resolvesthe current meta has an ok amount of competitively viable decks, but it's not the best. it's also definitely not the worst (Tearlements format, Maliss format)it also means the decks you used to play back then are much less competitive nowadays. it's not so hard to get to Diamond or even Master with a rogue deck, but it could be frustrating specially if you're not accustomed to modern decks
>>284476788Yea it's pretty telling that even back then graceful was better and now it's not even a contest. It's worth more in genesys(to the point it is priced out but pot isn't) and in rush graceful is a premier legend spell and no one uses pot.
>>284490350Weird how Marik hasn't has retrains yet.
>>284491407It's probably a matter of time.
>>284491181The only one who would translate it would be Goggled Anon, but he also happens to be the official translator for it, so he can't legally share it.
I play this a lot. It's fun. Male by the way.
>>284492130There's a fair amount of Ra cards, the other side of his deck would just be a bunch of burn which wouldn't be all that interesting
>>284492405No she isn't. Stop being a retard.
>>284491505Good to know - I'll do a bit of reading before getting back into things. Any recommendations for low cost decks in the current meta?
>>284492574Noh actors crossdress. He's male. You are the one being a retard and have no argument for it.
>>284492666No, she's confirmed a girl in the artbook and Structures manga.
>>284492628right now, the only meta deck readily available on the shop is Dracotail (average cost), but Odion/Apophis (cheaper) is also decent. they're both on the same packthe shop also currently has a pack focused on good staple cards (Ash Blossom, Imperm, etc), so if you're lacking some of them it's a good time to stock up
>>284492689Nope. You may be thinking of Deer Note, the twin which appears to be drawn with boobs.Ze Amin is based on real actor Zeami Motokiyo, a male duh. They are clearly another case of Kagamine twins.
>>284434087Literally never existed. Shiiiiiit, Sangan and Witch of the Black Forest used to trigger off of discards for goodness sake.
>>284493376No they didn't. They have to go from the field to graveyard.
>>284493184wrong. they're both referred as Rising Scale's older sisters by the artist (text at the bottom)
>>284493497Read its original Jap printing. It was errata'd to be on the field before it ever released in the West.
>>284493497the original japanese printing didn't specify. although I doubt that anon played with japanese cards between 1999 and 2001
>>284493184>Ze Amin is based on real actor Zeami Motokiyo, a male duh.And? We have plenty of cards named after someone of one gender being the opposite
>>284473751>probably 90% of Yugioh cards have been censored to shit over the years.There are ~750 cards with altered art - not all because of censored sometimes it's changing Japanese text to English, but mostly censorship. That means something like 5% of cards have altered arts.This is only about art, not censored names, which are more common.
>>284493184>>284493599>>284493621>>284493765>>284493778Aieee stop using technicalities you guys are literally rule sharking /a/ arguments
>>284493859Old habits die hard.
>>284494023Why did Arc-V shill this weirdo and not Aki?
>>284493859>talking about yugioh>doesn't want technicalitiesI'll defeat your arguments AND IF I DO you'll cope
>>284494129And if *I* win you put this on and bark like a dog.
>>284488247You quit when HARPIES were good? Oh man, you've seen nothing yet. The game is so much worse with skills now. Any modern skill is comparable to Nirvana High Paladin in terms of word count.
>>284494129>>284494199And if I win you both get your hands and feet cut off by buzzsaws.
>>284480252I don't know much about Magic, but I do know cheating the mana system in any way tends to break it in half. I assume that's the case here too?
>>284493497>このカードが墓地におかれた時、自分のデッキから守備力１５００以下のモンスターを１枚手札に加え、デッキを切り直す。>このカードが墓地におかれた時、自分のデッキから攻撃力１５００以下のモンスターを１枚手札に加え、デッキを切り直す。
>>284494525Um actually, if the saw touches any part of you it transports your whole body intact to the shadow realm where you live out the rest of your natural life.
>used to have a bunch of classic YGO cards I got as a kid>stopped caring about Yugioh by like 4th grade>moved out of my parents house last year and threw the cards out because who cares>out of fucking nowhere get really into YGO again>mfw I realized what I didHow do I learn to forgive myself?
>>284494931you threw away cardboard, but not your memoriesthat being said, you fucking dumbass
>>284495042>you threw away cardboardWorse - I threw away the heart of the cards.
>>284494931Classic in what sense. DM? GX?
>>284495422DM.
>>284494931If it makes you feel any better, unless they were in pristine condition AND 1st edition, you likely didn't lose any money.
