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Was Being X truly in the wrong?
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Zettour >>> Tanya
She is the type of person who will gladly sell all her friends and parents if it gives her an advantage. Zettour fights for his country and is a true patriot, besides being smarter than Tanya.
If he had the future knowledge like Tanya does, he would have easily won the war.
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>>284498704
>Tanya is the type of person who will gladly sell-out all her friends
Sure. But remember that Tanya is a sociopath who wouldn't put time into befrending anyone except high value individuals. She also wouldn't undersell them or or even sell them out in a way that makes her come off as someone who'd sell out her companions. As for her parents she doesn't have any, but they'd probably just die in a house fire if they ever became a liability in regards to her career progression or if they told her to do something unreasonable like to go to church, love her neighbour or be a good christian!
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>>284499237
Exactly, Being X is right in wanting to fix Tanya
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>Watch anime
>Like it
>Decide to read manga for more content since season 2 never ever
>words words words unending walls of text of irrelevant information
The fuck is this shit? How is an "war" manga so fucking boresome and focused on unhinged walls of text? I'm not against literary attempts but this is just straight up filler.
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>>284498704
>She is the type of person who will gladly sell all her friends and parents if it gives her an advantage
A recurring subplot is Tanya worrying about her subordinates being too patriotic to see the writing on the wall, hoping they'll join her if and when she jumps ship, and trying to get them notable achievements so she can sell the US on taking them in.
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>>284499298
War is actually logistics, not just violence. Hell trench warfare was known for being made mostly of long periods of nothing while waiting in the muddy trenches and dying from trench foot, rotten potatoes or rat viruses and interrupted by the little skirmish in a vain attempt to conquer a tiny bit of land.
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sex with middle-aged office workers
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>>284500211
>War is actually logistics, not just violence.
That's sound like pseudo-intellectual excuse for making boring and filler shit instead of actual interesting storylines.
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>>284500483
Because its interesting to anyone who has above sub-human IQ. The story is fascinating and the author manages to show his war autism and knowledge of world history and warfare.
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Is it wrong if I want to hatefuck Mary Sue? I would gladly rail her so hard until she's squealing and screaming like a lustful beast
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>>284501557
Yes, it is wrong
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>>284501777
Than may God forgive me because I'm about to go balls deep in that crazy girl
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>>284501833
>>284500233
>>284501557
I don't care WHO Tanya used to be or how gay it is! I want to ravage her! I would make her feel like a girl as I violently pound her girlhole!
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She is so cool
>>284502290
I simply can't find her sexy but I respect her
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Tanya is so based
>>284498704
Fuck off, Tanya is better than Zettour
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>>284499298
>decide to read
>words
Many such cases.
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>>284499298
>Animeonly getting filtered by reading
You can't make this shit up
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>>284500592
>show his war autism and knowledge of world history and warfare
He might do that but he doesn't do it very well through his ommissions of some wars, battles, and his stretching of WWI into WWII whilst keeping Germany without any allies.
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>>284497960
The English name for this manga still makes no sense, it should have some semblance to war to explain the manga
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>>284505286
It get the impression it's some indirect kike psyop to imply libertarians are evil, since Tanga is one.
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Oh goddamnit. Recuse the typo
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>recuse
*Excuse
Fuuuuuuck I'm so drunk.
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>excuse
*sexuse
Shiiiiiiet I'm so high
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>>284502290
The fact that she was male before only makes it hotter.
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>>284499298
>shonentard getting filtered not even by the ln but the fucking manga
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>>284498704
based zettourchad
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>>284499298
You are supposed to suffer like Tanya herself does.
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I've seen a lot of people on /a/ complaining about anime version of Tanya looking unappealing. WTF are you on about? I looked at LN illustrations, in there she looks batshit insane and completely unhinged in every single shot.
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>>284500592
>suposed critical manpower and supply issues since volume 4
>empire still wins easily lol
>noone ever dies (except that one time to force a noob company into her regiment that's still considered a noob despite being with her for years)
>carlo's war knowledge is quirky footnote tier and repeating the same 4 chuuni tier words on loop
I still love it, but only because I rationalize it as what it is, Tanya's personal purgatory.
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Both "Tonya is evil" and "Tanya did nothing wrong" camps are wrong.
Former believed her rationalizations about her acts of goodness.
Latter believed her rationalizations about her less than moral acts.
The matter of fact is, you can safely disregard all her layers of rationalizations and look at her actions by themselves. What she did wrong was wrong, regardless of heroic reasons she made-up. What good actions she did were good, regardless of her trying to trying to present it as logical self-interest. If you do that you can clearly see her real self, which is neither evil nor good.
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>>284499237
>Tanya is a sociopath
If you open your eyes instead of blindly believing everything she says in her narration, you would realize that she cares a lot about her team.
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>>284499237
Tbf tanya is only a sociopath because being x is a bigger sociopath that put her in a fucking war world because tanya hurt his divine feelings or something.
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>>284505687
>>suposed critical manpower and supply issues since volume 4
This is one of my biggest problems with the series and I wouldn't care about it if Carlo didn't keep bringing it up, highlighting it, and showing it as a massive problem for the Empire like when the not-Royal Marines do the not-St Nazaire Raid.
>>carlo's war knowledge is quirky footnote tier and repeating the same 4 chuuni tier words on loop
Yeah, and it shows horribly as things get worse and worse. I suppose its just because Carlo just wants to write about what he considers the coolest moments of both WWI and WWII into one war with some fantasy operations or how he thinks things should have gone like the not-Operation Market Garden and not-Stalingrad. Really, he should have made at least Turkey side with the Empire as it stretches into and beyond disbelief that the Empire hasn't collapsed yet. There's really no way the Empire could still be going without at least one ally, not-Italy should have joined in. The biggest problem is that the US is involved now and 80% of the US's war effort in WWII was focused on Japan but, there isn't Japan in Tanya's world so, 100% of the US is going to rain down on the Empire. The vast manufacturing capability of the US in WWII outstripped that of Germany by orders of magnitude, there should be no way for the Empire to survive for as long as it is/does against its current enemies but apparently it can and is.
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Speaking if Being X, would he be relevant ever again? Would we see divine politics?
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>>284505687
Wait, don't anime show mounds of corpses from Germany's side after every battle?
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>>284505789
>>284505767
The divine beings are just using Tanya and war to btfo the rising atheism in that world because war makes more ardent believers. Willingly or not Tanya is doing Being X's work and then Tanya gets extra power when she prays to Being X but that might be corrupting her to make her more aligned with that world.
>>284498704
Tanya follows orders to the point of ruin like when she had the chance to stop De Gaulle from fleeing France but orders came in to stop her and rather than ignore them as she was tempted to, she followed them prolonging the war and helping the Empire to eventually lose.
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>>284505824
>Tanya follows orders to the point of ruin
Only when there are no loopholes for her to exploit
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>>284498704
>he would have easily won the war.
There is no winning this war from the very beginning. The war will continue until MC caves in.
>>284505869
It's been a while but I'm pretty sure there were no loopholes in V1ing the retreating Not!French. There was still time before the armistice came into effect, and Tanya was technically NOT under the commander she went to ask permission "to keep her own hands clean". She could have done it outright with 0 reprecussions.
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>>284506083
Was it in Anime? If so, she tried to circumvent it before the headquarters denied her, but she was late by the seconds, headquarters sent the telegram to stop.
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>>284506155
No, LN
>but she was late the seconds
It was also implied she spent long minutes, if not hours fighting with the local commander when she didn't have to.
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>read fanfic
>Tanya sexually teases underage boy
>drop fanfic
Why so many fanfics are OoC garbage?..
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The thing I hate the most in this one is Mary Sue and I want her dead. I'm up to LN12 tell me she dies already I can't stand her stupidity and insubordination anymore.
The fact she's apparently being propped as the hero of not-italy gives me hope she will get martyrized.
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>>284506596
gayest post in this thread. we love mary sue here
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>>284506613
>t. clueless starving ildoan
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>>284506596
>Surprised that Mary Sue is a mary sue
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>>284506648
I'm pretty sure "diplomatic time bomb" and "Harbinger of Friendly Fire" are not usual mary sue traits.
She would have been dismissed if not executed even in liberal modern armies 10 times already.
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>>284500592
>Because its interesting to anyone who has above sub-human IQ.
"You need to be very high IQ to understand rick and morty-I mean, my war manga with magic and lolis". Self-awareness verdict: 0.
>The story is fascinating and the author manages to show his war autism and knowledge of world history and warfare.
The premise may be fascinating, but the execution is as poor as it gets because the author doesn't have a real understanding of war. He just has superficial "I know about tanks" LARPer energy in which you know specific details but not the entire picture. Kingdom is a similar manga about war but is 20x times better executed because is all encompassing. But then again, the glorious history of Chinese warfare is 50x times more interesting than the story of Germany in WW1.
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>>284499298
This is Your brain on t*ktok reels
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>>284506776
Is this bait or are (You) just retarded?
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>>284506816
Just because the volumes have 400 pages doesn't make it a better war story.
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>>284506744
>if not executed
Shh, web-novel spoilers
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>>284506857
I wasn't talking about the LN, but it doesn't surprise me that an illiterate nigger can't understand a one-sentence question.
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>>284506857
>400 pages
Rather short. I guess that's why they're "light" novels.
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>>284499298
>"Watch anime" "Like it"
I'm surprised you can even read.
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>>284506892
Ok, then. No. It's not bait. The story is bad. The empire should have lost long ago. They've been short of everything supposedly for 10 volumes and it never amounts to anything. They keep assraping the soviets well after Barbarossa went to shit, and ever since the focus moved 4 volumes ago the lines are stable somehow. they actually invade the British Isles and do nothing. They randomly sink the Royal mediterranean fleet because why not. They decimate the combined US-soviet-british-italy alliance because uhh...
But no, we have no shells, no guns, no tanks, no planes, no food, except when Zettour and Uger take all they need for the next doomed offensive (read: decisive war ending victory) out of their combined assholes.
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>>284506927
>He don't know what is a dub.
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>>284506816
No, but seeing how you were unable to understand the basic assertion by the other anon that more text =/= better story, (You) may actually be.
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>>284506992
>>284506892
>I wasn't talking about the LN, but it doesn't surprise me that an illiterate nigger can't understand a one-sentence question.
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>>284506979
>Tanyas
LN, Manga, Anime. Who's the fourth? WN? I didn't know it was illustrated.
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>>284507003
POV: You're too high-IQ to know that both manga and light novels have volumes and pages.
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>>284497960
The whole point is that X is a narcissistic like Tanya, he will never admit being wrong and will continue making the same mistakes over and over, he already said he plans to continue isekai Tanya to different worlds until he gives up and it's very obvious Tanya will never give up and whatever victory he will have over X will be short lived because he will end killed by his own subordinates like in the previous world.
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>>284502290
NotBeria calm down
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>show is called "Tanya the evil"
>she isnt actually evil
Hmm
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>>284507065
Subordinates adore Tanya, tho
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>>284507217
It's a typo. She's devil.
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>>284507219
Yes, but it's what some anon above said, he will eventually sell them out and backstab them, it's exactly why he died in his previous life.
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>>284507217
She's evil if you think about it from enemy perspective thou.
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>>284507245
No? In previous life it was his job to fire people. In current life his job is to create peace. Backstabbing your comrades does not create peace.
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>>284506972
>They've been short of everything
being short on something doesn't mean not having resources.
>They keep assraping the soviets well after Barbarossa
well, even in their worst defeat Germans still had a 1:3 kd against the soviets despite being outnumbered, just look at the numbers in the battle of Kursk.
>They decimate the combined US-soviet-british-italy alliance because uhh
Not a hard thing to do, amerimutts suck at war, Germans vaporised US divisions despite being heavily outnumbered and being short on everything, just look at the Hürtgen forest battle.
>But no, we have no shells, no guns, no tanks, no planes, no food, except when Zettour and Uger take all they need for the next doomed offensive
I could tell You about those stories of german armies still winning battles in 1945 and still gaining territory, but that would be a waste of time, because we are talking about No-Germany and about magic, if in real life ""bad guys"" managed to do all those things imagine what they could hablve donne with magic, which by the way is the point of the story, a big what if...
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>>284507027
The additional one is spin-off manga Tanya.
But the artstyle of this pic is so vague that I can only clearly distinguish anime Tanya from the others.
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>>284507270
Anon, peace will eventually come and the issue is what he will do after that, he didn't learn a single thing from his previous life and will repeat the same mistakes.
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>>284507308
Lesson 1: don't believe Tanya's internal monologue. Things that she claims are selfish in her head are actually pretty selfless if you ignore her excuses.
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It’s funny how the higher Tanya got promoted, the more she have to do paperwork, aka her old job that she hate so fucking much in her previous life
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>>284507500
That's just the Japanese believing the only way to show someone is working is showing them pushing paper.
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>>284507500
>she hate so fucking much in her previous life
Source?
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>>284507274
I am aware none of them are illogical, just repeated so much that it's unbeareable to my suspension of disbelief.
It's one thing to say "we are short of everything in my specific area" every now and then, but 10 volumes of not only Tanya, but the chief logistics expert of the Army explciitly saying "The whole empire is short of everything" 60 times per book starts to get on your nerves.
And I know the Germans took a long time to collapse in the Soviet front, but, again, being fed how terrible this 3-front-war is while there is a feeling of "things only happen where Tanya is" is not helping.
And the final thing is that nothing has consequences. They manage to sink the not!titanic to cripple the not!lendlease aid to the not!soviets, then the entire arc is scrapped and they are explicitly said to be getting even more aid.
They sink the entire bong mediterranean navy, something that would have them groveling at the peace table, and nothing comes of it, all the contrary, the supply lines to not!italy are the safest place to be despite there supposedly being not a single warship defending them since the not!USNavy isn't war-ready yet and they also sunk the not!italian fleet for the lulz.
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>>284507747
Anime will fix it by making it a divine intervention
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Quartet Tanya >>> real Tanya
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>You got to marry Tanya
>She's not attracted to males
>She only did it as a social obligation and to make her resume look good
>She expects you to die early because of your unhealthy lifestyle
Your reaction?
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>>284507274
>Hurtgen Forest Battle
A defensive action, note the following German counter-offensive was a failure and ultimately led to the Germans being unable to hold back the Allies or Soviets effectively again.
>still winning battles in 1945
They were winning at the tactical level but those victories didn't translate into anything strategic unlike the battles in Tanya which either shift things towards the favour of the Empire or maintain a stalemate to the advantage of the Empire.
>>284507747
>Royal Navy Med Fleet sunk and no consequences
This is one of the things I really hated, other than letting the Afrika Corps escape there was no major outcome of this, this is when the Royal Navy was still loved and seen as great and would have been a massive blow to the morale of the entire British Empire. For comparison the sinking of the HMS Hood wasn't reported for nearly a day after it happened, and was a symbol of British naval power sunk causing some despair and shock that it could even happen, and that's just one ship. Have an entire fleet sunk with an aircraft carrier lost and you're looking at something more akin to the Amercian reaction to Pearl Harbour but without the shock and anger of it being a surprise attack.
>"The whole empire is short of everything" 60 times per book starts to get on your nerves
That and anytime Tanya is off the frontline she notices how almost all men of fighting age are missing because they've been conscripted, and that even if the Empire wins the war or doesn't lose its lost so many men they'll stop existing as people because their fertility rates will never recover.
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>>284507809
What about Shorts Tanya?
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>>284507809
Isekai Quartet should've finished with the movie
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>>284508769
I hate Quartet because it made me want watch the absolute shit Re:Zero is.
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>>284497960
Making war just to raise faith.
Is fucking disgusting in my antropocentric view, but it should be morally right in a theocentric position.
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>>284497960
I wish there was more anime with unhinged and entertaining protagonists
I'm so fucking tired of generic japanese teenagers who are afraid of killing
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>>284509236
Tanya also would be afraid of killing in a non-war setting. It's all context-dependent
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>>284509371
>afraid
nah. she wouldn't kill because her love for the free market saying that killing bad unless she gets paid for it, not out of fear.
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>>284509371
Tanya is only afraid of doing more work and getting killed. She doesn't care how many people she might kill if it keeps her safe.
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>>284507217
That depends on the size and curvature of your nose.
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>>284507822
Damn brat
>Isn't attracted t males
Not after I get done with er, I'm fat and ugly as hell.
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>>284507839
The Empire is still very much being ground into the dirt and at this point can really only effectively prosecute campaigns on one front at a time, which is why it was so important to to blitz Ildoa like that. Zettour needed the south out of commission for a bit so he could take all his remaining forces and throw them eastward.
He's called a con-man for a reason. He needs the world to think that they're still fighting a dangerous enemy while he sets the stage for his nation's defeat and the reason no one has any shells or supplies until the next big offensive is because there's a very limited supply so no one gets any of it until he's ready to use it on a stage the world is watching.
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>>284509927
Yeah yeah whatever you say Zettour just admit you have a contact called Mr. X gifting you shells when you need them and freezing the fronts noone gives a shit you don't have to pretend anymore the big bad rudersdorf is dead and you are supreme everything.



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