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In Western folklore and fantasy goblins are very intelligent and sneaky. Tricksters. Liars. They set traps, steal shit, tinker with stuff, and usually outsmart people instead of just brute forcing everything. Not good guys, but not inherently evil either. But in anime and manga, they are shown as irredeemable rapist trash species. That's not even Western goblin lore. That feels way closer to oni or hentai orc logic. Like JRPGs needed a weak humanoid enemy you could grind early game and goblins got stuck as the default punching bag. Then edgy fantasy doubled down and went “yeah make them rape elves so nobody feels bad killing them.” At this point anime goblins aren't goblins at all. They're just small green rape oni wearing a Western fantasy name. So is this just decades of lazy genre recycling or did Japan ever actually look at goblin folklore beyond ruining their reputation?
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ok
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Is this really worth your time and effort?
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>>284498356
HIGH TENSION JAPANESE GOBURIN
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Were tinker goblins even a thing before Warcraft II?
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Japanese fantasy has nothing really to do with western fantasy anymore. Consider it an offshoot of Dragon Quest and other JRPGs (which themselves were offshoots of wizardy and ultima)

I guess the LOTR movies and Harry Potter had an influence too.
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>>284498459
even in hp, goblins aren't show as evil bastards
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>>284498356
Tolkien basically invented hentai orcs. Elrond's wife, Galadriel's daughter was gang raped by orcs and female orcs existed only for breeding.
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>>284498553
They borrowed Louise from HP and thus all Isekai.

Goblins are just a low level monster. It's not that deep. They also aren't shown as all evil in FF14 either. But if you're lazy and want a low level, evil monster, goblins are it.
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>>284498356
Figured you complain about Japanese kobolds being nothing like western kobolds before complaining goblins.
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>>284498356
Isn't goblins just being orcs lite from Tolkien?
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>>284500228
yes
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>In Western folklore and fantasy goblins are very intelligent and sneaky. Tricksters. Liars. They set traps, steal shit, tinker with stuff, and usually outsmart people instead of just brute forcing everything
not just western, watch Grimgar

>Like JRPGs needed a weak humanoid enemy you could grind early game and goblins got stuck as the default punching bag.
D&D did that before JRPGs did, it comes directly out of the monster manual
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>>284498450
they aren't exactly the same thing but it makes me think of brownies
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>>284498450
Warcraft goblins are really just gremlins
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I am a greedy goblin, I want all anime girls for myself
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>>284498356
Not reading but as long we agree Goblins > Elves everything is alright.



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