Why are CF like this
Because they're women.
>>284517744The manga version speedran through all the drama for some reason, the web novel version had the MC's high school life turn to hell through months, it looked less ridiculous originally.
>>284517744>the woman inside whispered... cocks, millions of cocks, all the cocks, the cocks never stop
>>284517744Write the name of the series in the ITT. Your attention baiting kind of thread rarely works for small seires like these.
These stories are always so mind-numbingly retarded.
>>284518136The manga is named "How bitches have no accountability, 404: Not found"
>>284517744This series is so blatantly anti-NTR that I wonder if the author went through a nasty episode where he was cheated on or he just hates NTR in general.
>>284518167You should experience real life, it's not only mind-numbingly retarded it also usually starts affecting your actual mental and physical health.
>>284518172No, it is named Jinsei Gyakuten - Uwaki Sare Enzai wo Kiserareta Ore ga, Gakuen Ichi no Bishoujo ni Natsukareru.A web novel turned manga, write that on the ITT next time.
>>284518167Actually it is only partially retarded, the netorare and bullying are stupidly set but the author tries to show realistic consequences of cheating and making false accusations.
>>284518295Like the Prime Minister getting involved in a dunking on the involved parties for some reason?
>>284518209Well it's not written by a woman at least, they'd never admit to half the stuff written in the OP page
>>284518215This series isn't realistic, it's just another form of wish-fulfillment revenge fantasy. It's an idealized scenario where people who are mean get their comeuppance and spend all their time reflecting on how they shouldn't have been so mean. People who are jerks in real life still have lives and egos, even if they regret their actions they try to justify them or develop coping mechanisms, they don't go around constantly saying "Woe is me I shouldn't have been so rude to Anon in high school".
>>284518331Yes, it is a matter Prime Ministers are bound by the constitution to take part in.
Stop reading this trash anon. You are better than this
>>284518511No, I need my wish-fulfillment fantasy.
>>284518511No I need something to pass work hours
>>284518411>it's just another form of wish-fulfillment revenge fantasyEven for web novels, this genre is arguably the sloppiest of them all. Got to wonder if the writers are permaraped or something.
>>284518568Nothing is more of slop than Isekai revenge fantasy, high school drama revenge fantasies are still separated from the isekai taint.
>>284518568It's an easy trap for crappy writers because people like revenge stories, and revenge stories are a classic genre with a well-developed formula, but the actual dramatic stakes are fundamentally very base and petty. Adventure stories, war stories, romances, mysteries, etc, they all can pretty easily presented as something aspirational or at least nuanced, but revenge is pretty plainly about impotent anger and it takes skill to disguise that. So despite there being a formula, actually applying that formula requires a level of commitment to character depth that a lot of writers don't have the competence or editorial freedom to execute. The Count of Monte Cristo is a classic story because it spends hundreds of pages exploring the characters backgrounds, family trees, aspirations, interpersonal conflicts, etc, and so the central revenge plot has gravitas and significance despite the fact it's fundamentally a story about spite. Your average writer putting out twenty-page chapters of "How I Got Revenge On My Highschool Bullies and Got a Harem With the Weakest Skill in Isekai" does not have the same advantages.
>>284518568the trashiest stuff is like half the seinen slop on yanmaga but its worse because its for adults. its just as vapid as any wish fulfillment
Eiji's mom is the most unrealistic part of this whole thing.
>>284518511Why?I don't remember any manga about this topic in a non-isekai scenarioI really hate fuck-boys/ gyaruos assholes in doujinshi, is really nice watch them being fucked for once.
>>284519068Not really, mothers hating their son's girlfriends / wives for either doing something to hurt their sons or not caring for them like they do is very realistic. My mother wasn't fond of my brother's wife till the very end simply becuase she didn't think my sister-in-law was as good as her regarding taking care of my brother.
>>284519068his mom is like the least unrealistic thing about this shit anon, the very fabric of the universe turns against this girl, it's legit comical
>>284519410No because women chose stability over anything else, even if it means it hurting her son again. She'd want to mend and keep this relationship up
>read ntrslop>why is there ntr in my slop?
>>284519475Sounds like you don't any experience with mothers who put their sons above everything.
>>284519475Did you just let it slide that your mother would not tear down walls to chase against any girl that wronged you?Man, I gotta thank my mom again today.
>>284519538>>284519633my mom would never interfere like that since she wants me to be independent and an adult
Apparently, the bullying was only like 3 days? How fucking dramatic
>>284518215Realistic consequences? Didn’t this dumb plot involve the prime minister lmfao?
>>284517744>the woman insidelmao
This sadboi shit is getting old fast, we need to return to the victim flipping his lid and fucking everyone systematically in the ass.
>>284519697That is why your family will remain serfs in this world, until your bloodline is eventually extinguished. Families are meant to support each other.
>>284519975Cool it with the bigotry friend, family is just something randomly assigned to you at birth, practically strangers.
I always wonder when I see revenge manga if the writer actually had any chip on their shoulders they're channeling now or if they're just kind of imagining the worse scenarios possible without any kind of personal grudges
>>284519901that's up to his anti-NTR Batman bro
>>284517744>adults aren't completely useless amazing anyway I couldn't give a damn about the romance plot in this, the real appeal is watching the karmatoc retribution
>>284519758In the manga version yes, it lasted for months in tbe web novel.
>>284520055>some girls or guys sleights the author once in real life>impotently seethes until he writes a story where the entirety of existence conspires against his 'bullies'>posts it onlineIt's that simple
>>284517956FICTIONAL women.>>284518352Neither would a slasher or a lolicon writer.>>284519410>>284519538Don't bother, he's just a baiting retard.
>>284520396Well, it works. Low effort webnovels can pay the bills.
>>284517744I am like this
>>284519697Which is almost unnatural for a mother.Sounds like she just doesn't love you. Sad.
>>284517744>CF
>>284517744cheating slut humiliation ritual
>>284517744So why did she fall for chad in this one? What did he do to convince the loyal childhood friend, who fantasized about marrying her bf, to abandon him?
>>284526228he was everything the CF was not
>>284526228MC wouldn't even kiss her. So like the average Japanese woman, she puts in zero effort to get the ball rolling and decides to spite the poor bastard and sleep with someone else.
>>284526385If you know your CF since childhood and you're in a relationship for months and you don't even kiss her then you deserve to get cucked, you are an embarrassment to the male part of humanity.
>>284526494That's a silly way of looking at things. There are a lot of guys out there who have no idea how to make the first move, the normal reaction from the girl should be to ask him what's up and attempt to get him to open up, especially if it's a girl who's been in love with you for so long. Problem is, girls don't want to do any work whatsoever to get they guy moving and take his reticence as a personal attack because women are mentally ill and everything is personal to them. And like I said, this is especially bad in Japan, most women over there are total dead fish and won't help you through a goddamn thing, you fuck up slightly, they call you an herbivore and jump on another dick.
>>284519697"Independent and an adult?" Sounds like a coping mechanism for being unloved.Being abandoned by your mother doesn't make you independent, or an adult. It just means she doesn't care about you or your happiness.>>284519975Serfs at least have each other. The life of a medieval serf wasn't good by any means, but they knew love, honor, and familial support, unlike lonelyanon.
>>284526544>girls don't want to do any work whatsoever to get they guy movingAlmost like they're biologically passive.>because women are mentally ill If they're fatherless, that's a given.
>>284518081The manga is going straight for the revenge against chad and the CF.
>>284526786>Almost like they're biologically passiveAlmost like we're a species known for being far more than our biological instincts. Insisting on doing the same thing over and over again until all of a sudden you're in your 30s and undesirable to every man your standards allow you to date is genetic dead end behavior, anyway.
>>284526544No that's the realistic way to see things, everything you said is cope. Man up and kiss your CF loser, if you're gonna wait until marriage to kiss your girlfriend then no wonder she swapped you for someone else.
>manga and anime and 4chan>escape from reality to read blackpill shit that makes you feel awful or else like some nihilistic depressionlord. No fucking thanks I'll keep reading my sweet and wholesome romances about soulmates and shit. Why is Romanticism so good, bros?
>>284527432>No that's the realisticThe majority of people having concave skulls is indeed realistic, doesn't mean they're mentally sound.
>>284527084>Revenge Where? He doesn't do a damn thing to his torturer, it's all author showing his godly vengeance against his creation by turning every aspect of her life against her while keeping her ultra retarded.
Why do the Japanese have such a psychotic fetish for suffering?
>>284527558Those concave skull guys will also be the ones nailing your CF because you were too much of a loser to do it. That's also realistic and they don't need to be mentally sound to succeed where you failed.Stop looking for excuses and feeling sorry for yourself.
>>284517744>>284518215>>284526385>>284526494>>284526544The premise of this series is not "unrealistic" BUT the written is so bad it becomes "unrealistic", and I Genuinely don't understand why so many anons take these super "unrealistic" series and use them to drama dump on /a/ while claiming the series are super realistic and represent real life.
>>284529124>I Genuinely don't understand why so many anons take these super "unrealistic" series and use them to drama dump on /a/ while claiming the series are super realistic and represent real life.For (you)s, general hate for women and the fact that this shit is emotional crack cocaine
>>284527550>>escape from reality to read blackpill shit that makes you feel awful or else like some nihilistic depressionlordI don't understand your type, the blackpill is not a real thing, the only blackpill in real life is dead.
>>284527574The funny thing is the author actually responds to peoples questions and comments on their twitter account so when people ask questions about the CF the author talks ambiguously but makes it sound like they'll give her somewhat a decent ending than a few weeks later pops out a chapter letting you know she is suffering 24/7
>>284518658I'd argue circle never ending circular romcons are worse than any isekai.
>>284529172>this shit is emotional crack cocaineWhy!? The written is so bad you cannot take it seriously
>3D ragebait and debate in a 2D board
>>284529212>Why!? The written is so bad you cannot take it seriouslyThat's NTR as a genre in general. It's entirely based off of producing incredibly strong, incredibly negative emotions from the readers. For you and me it's off putting but unfortunately for a lot of people it tickles a portion of their brain really fucking well
>>284529246>3D ragebaitThis should be an instant ban>debate in a 2D board??? We literally do this for everything, even slice of life series
>>284518081Yeah it was basically all resolved by Chapter 2 nothing afterwards truly feels earned. That other osananajimi series had the same issue.
>>284529309NTR can have good written that you can take seriously, you can find stuff like that in Shoujo and Josei works. But if the NTR has a bunch of nonsensical stuff and characters that don't even act close to a human.>producing incredibly strong, incredibly negative emotions from the readers.How???>for a lot of people it tickles a portion of their brain really fucking wellAgain, how??? if the written was good it would be logical to have that reaction but 99% of the cases this stuff is hilarious because it makes 0 sense.
>>284529387Anon how hard is it to understand>Crack cocaine is a cheap form of cocaine often consumed in ways that hit the brain faster than typical cocaine consumption. It's also known for being dirty and used by the underclassStop being dense and put two and two together. Hell I even explained it>producing incredibly strong, incredibly negative emotions from the readers. For you and me it's off putting but unfortunately for a lot of people it tickles a portion of their brain really fucking wellAre you just merely pretending to be retarded or something the metaphor isn't hard to understand
>>284517744the fuck?
>>284529444>Crack cocaine is a cheap form of cocaine often consumed in ways that hit the brain faster than typical cocaine consumption. It's also known for being dirty and used by the underclass It is low-effort and low-quality, which makes it more addictive to people of lower intelligence because it is easier for them to understand it?
>>284529474>the fuck?Yeah, that gave me a chuckle
>>284518209>anon is flummoxed that normal people don't like his cucked fetish
>>284518411>ll their time reflecting on how they shouldn't have been so mean.Not quite. Lately The childhood friend considers herself the victim and thinks the new girl he's hooking up with is a "homewrecker" the bitch has taken zero accountability for what she did. But the soccer chad she fucked is a hilariously OTT evil stereotype who does evil shit for the sake of being evil. It's slop but it's entertaining slop so far.
>>284529949>but it's entertaining slop so far.is not. Entertaining "slop" is not called slop
>>284519068Mom's don't need much of a reason to hate their son's GFs, and she has plenty of reason. Fuck, if she even knew half of what she did (framing him for abuse almost driving him to suicide etc) she'd have gone full Nanking on her.
>>284519792The Prime Minister has spoken about public bullying cases in my shithole country so it's not that unrealistic. It's especially realistic these days where fucking everything is used as ammo for the culture war. Look at all the shit Trump/Biden et al have commented on.
>>284526228He was too much of a pussy to fuck her so she sought physical satisfaction elsewhere. Literally the plot of your bog standard NTR doujin lmao.
>>284518209Cheating is a common thing
>>284517744Would you prefer if they were like this?
>>284530071>>284530072Again >>284529124
>>284517744This manga is really unfair with Miyuki like yeah sure she was wrong for cheating but she was the target of a big complot, meanwhile the new girl never has been targeted the way she was but the MC has already moved onto her without much trouble, it's like If your old car broker down after driving it on mountain pass and then you get a new one and assume that it's better despite never having driven it offroad.
>>284530170She went out of her away to ruin his life after already cheating
>>284518209>anti-NTRYou mean, normal?
>>284530170She lied her way through and facilitated all the reputation assassination that came his way. That is being complicit, she didn't just cheat.
>teacher visits Miyuki>she tells him she is no longer suicidal>ask teacher for advice on what to do>"LOL no figure it out yourself"Like what is the point
>>284530357Suffering, this series is very obviously about making those who wronged Eiji pay for wronging him.
>>284529513You see for me, the absurdity and the stupidity makes me even more pissed off, my mind immediately goes towards the logistics and what will happen after the sex quiets down. And that makes me angrier.
>>284530569>what will happen after the sex quiets downThat doesn't make sense. First, this type of series almost always uses porn logic or magical sex logic (basically the same). In fact, the series was poorly written even before the sex happened. Actually you are getting angry at things that don't exist in these series.
>>284530569>he logistics and what will happen after the sex quiets downChad throws her away and calls her a loose woman
I like feeling angry.
>>284518331>Prime MinisterThe late Shinzo Abe would never approve of NTR. For the sake of upholding the birthrate, it has to be opposed with extreme prejudice.
>>284519475Eiji's mom was in the process of securing a new, younger GF for her son. The old, defective, model was obsolete.
>>284531786>For the sake of upholding the birthrateThat's not really a strong point against NTR since plenty of pornographic scenarios end up with the stolen girl pregnant, a symbol of permanent defeat for the guy who got screwed over.The upfront point against NTR is simply being against degeneration, hedonism leads to moral decay and broken relationships lead to mental health problems, especially if affairs occur within a family with children and relatives being tightly related to that turmoil.
>>284525560Kek.
>>284530809>>284531534No I'm not just talking about this series. I'm talking about most NTR in general. You abandon your beloved for a low class dude who is only good at sex, ok l, you fuck all night, then what? What about next day? What happens when you get bored of sex. I understand that porn logic means that it never gets boring, but my rational mins cannot dissociate. >Actually you are getting angry at things that don't exist in these series.I'm well aware, and that just pisses me off even more. I understand that I'm being dumb here, but the stupidity makes me mad anyways.That's why I understand normal cheating where someone in a moment of weakness cheats, it's awful but I get it. But stuff where someone abandons everything for some dick is so weird to me, you're gonna get bored soon you know. Even the chaddest of man will have his dick need some rest after a few rounds, what then?
>>284526228The MC was taking the relationship slow, so the chad dived in and told her than if he really loved her, he would have fucked her already. That's all it took to convince the slut.
Reminder that when the MC and main heroine kiss later its revealed to be the MC's first kiss
>>284527574>godly vengeanceThat's called "the consequences of their own actions". The girl threw her future husband under the bus to chase a bad boy who regularly jumps from girl to girl, and now her future is ruined.
>>284529474It means that she had a woman moment and is now regretting it.
>>284530170The new girl would reject NTR-chadman on the spot because of her mysterious past trauma.
>>284529474What did the man in her say
>>284530389There is a point where it's enough, and author should move on to other thing, just to keep the story from being stale
>>284532571>There is a point where it's enoughI don't think so, if there is entertainment to be found in this ridiculous karmic fantasy, then it should go on.
wow the translation is bad. this is exactly what that post a while ago said about non jap discussion on something being skewed due to incorrect translationswell, the gist is the same and this manga isn't worth going up in arms about but damn
>>284532571Author already said the "main story" is finished now every MC chapter is just lovey-dovey time while you get the occasional here is "evil" character wallowing in misery
>>284532038It's because the woman truly believes the dude she's fucking will see her as wife material and value her more than the guy she cucked, rather than being another notch on his belt who will shortly be discarded because she's shown she's a "sleeper" and not a "keeper". tl;dr it's delusion
>>284526327>>284532044Can we take a second to appreciate how fucking awful her "friends" were as well? Is this just a case of women sabotaging the happiness of another woman? >Oh, you're having intimacy problems with the childhood friend BF you're in love with and have wanted to marry for 10 years? Why not spend some alone time with this infamous womanizer who has a reputation of stealing guys GFs?
>>284533494Girl friends do like to play match makers.
>>284533332People want drama in a story like this. The MC and the love interest aren't interesting enough to sustain the series just with their romance. It's the same issue with that other series, which is why the author decided to make the ex-GF into a public toilet installation for old men. And like it or not it fucking saved the manga.
>>284533292what was mistranslated?
>>284532522kek
>>284518215>3DPDYeah, no thanks bud
>>284532571the audience for this slop are petty and are only here for over the top and shallow suffering. you stop doing that and they don't care
>>284532442Girls with trauma are the firsts to fall
>>284517744Shes right, why risk everything over sonething that doesn't even matter anymore
My favorite part is when NTRman always kicks the betraying harlot to the curb out of boredom after MC has moved on.Sure he might sometimes get comeuppance but the real focus is on making sure the cheating woman suffers.NTRmen are more like a natural disaster occuring in the story, it's the woman creating the performative act of cheating that dictates the betrayal.
>>284526327Why do these meddling facilitators never get shit happening to them?
>>284534330Your cynical, pragmatic take doesn't work in this scenario because things do matter a lot since she will lose everything exactly because she needlessly screwed her childhood friend and lover for a rush of passion.This isn't a case of dumb teens cheating and being able to move on, the drama is increased tenfold due enabling the suffering and reputation assassination of an innocent party.
>>284517744CF? cheating female?
>>284534610Child Friend, but yeah Cheating Female as well.
>>284534641sankyu
>>284518209Could be the guy had a crush on a girl but she didn't reciprocate his feelings and went on to date other people, and this is his cope.
>>284529124No the CF behaved like the average woman, that part is realistic drama. Everything else after that is the most retarded drama ever conceived where somehow the MC qgetting cucked leads to CF and her mom becoming homeless, the guy who cucked and his dad(who is the mayor or something) going to jail because the prime Minister of Japan of ll things got involved, and other such dumb shit.Imagine if you kicked a pebble in the air and it somehow caused a Meteor to struc the earth, it's sounds impossible and retarded and that's exactly what it is, but that's what happened in the story.
>>284534729Are you coping by imagining what scenario the author could be coping about?
>>284529124The CF behaved like the average woman, that part is realistic drama. Everything else after that is the most retarded drama ever conceived where somehow the MC qgetting cucked leads to CF and her mom becoming homeless, the guy who cucked and his dad(who is the mayor or something) going to jail because the prime Minister of Japan of ll things got involved, and other such dumb shit.Imagine if you kicked a pebble in the air and it somehow caused a Meteor to struc the earth, it's sounds impossible and retarded and that's exactly what it is, but that's what happened in the story.
>>284532038>>284533401>>284534560You're getting upset over things that don't exist in these series,or in 99% of hentai-logic plots. In this trope, the woman cheats because the author wants a pornographic scenario not from any realistic motivation. >It's because the woman truly believes the dude she's fucking will see her as wife material and value her more than the guy she cuckedThe idea that she believes it will make her seem like 'wife material' is pure fanfiction. You're trying to apply logic to scenarios the author is incapable of writing coherently with Logic.
>>284517744>CFYou are mentally a woman you tell me.
>>284535045>the guy who cucked and his dad(who is the mayor or something) going to jail because the prime Minister of Japan of ll things got involved.Why this thread keep bringing the Prime Minister part up as if he got involved solely because some kid in his country got cucked? NTRman's father was corrupt just like his kid being a weasel, every now and then corrupt politicians take the fall, not all of them are untouchable.
>>284535045>>284535070Are you a bot?
>>284533494Women do that shit literally all the time though
>>284529474Inside a CF there are two voices, the voice of virgin trad woman and the voice of a whore. Nine out a ten times the whore ends up winning.
>>284535045>the CF behaved like the average womanYou are doing the thing. The written is not good enough for you to take it this seriously,even that part is full of hentai logic.
>>284535051The whole thing is totally insane to me so I can only try to rationalize it.
>>284535144No it's just this new captcha system and my shiternet acting up.
>>284535151>Women do that shit literally all the time thoughI will post it again: The premise of this series is not "unrealistic" BUT the written is so bad it becomes "unrealistic"
>>284535174So this is just porn without the good stuff
>>284517744I just had to read what has been translated just so i could join in to say that this is mind numbingly bad like all other NTR revenge dog shit
>>284535174>even that part is full of hentai logic.What part of a teen girl cheating on her boyfriend, who she thinks is steering their relationship in a boring way, hentai logic? This happen can happen in high school.The leaps of logic is her actually being so easily goaded into destroying her childhood friend's reputation, as if her sudden urge to have a "better" man automatically made her as evil as women who plan to kill their husbands in order to be with their new man.