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>mfw someday you'll browse /a/ and see the Miyazaki sticky
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>>284557141
Why should I feel bad for a lolicon
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His last good movie (The Wind Rises) was 12 years ago.
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I swear to fucking God anon
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Not a big loss for anime.
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>>284557141
I will spit on his grave.
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just remember that hes a miserable cunt in real life who walked out on the premiere of his own sons movie and is insufferable to work with. the gorgeous art is the work of dozens of people you will never know the names of and its been over a decade since ghibli released a movie with a good story. it wont be anything like toriyama's passing
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>>284557141
I'll be more sad if I see an Anno sticky, and I don't even particularly like Anno
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He's my favorite director and everything, but he hasn't made a good movie since 2001. He peaked in 92
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Why does anyone here hate Miyazaki? I swear years ago it was ironic shitposting to hate him on /a/.
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>>284557839
During a screening of the film, Gorō's father, Hayao Miyazaki, walked out for a smoke break, commenting, "You shouldn't make a picture based on your emotions".[46] When asked his thoughts, he said, "I was looking at my kid. He's not an adult yet. That is all."[47]

he didnt speak to his son during the development of the film and he refused to speak to him for some time after. he has since apologized but this goes beyond being a distant or even neglectful father and goes into straight up abuse territory. he knew that he is held in very high regard in animation and he knew that walking out and openly admitting his disdain would be a huge insult to his son and he did it anyways

hes also apparently abusive to coworkers and is overall just a miserable bastard. hes apologized for it but its baked into his legacy
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>>284557141
not if I die before him
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>>284557141
Who cares? I have no interest in celebrating his death.
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>>284557141
Eh. Call me when we get the m00t sticky when he inevitably dies from AIDS
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>>284557141
Bets on it hapoening next year?
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>>284558012
>caring more about the person than the things he created
I'm cancelling you.
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>>284558096
>m00t
Who?
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>>284557243
Miyazaki isn't just a lolicon. He's the lolicon.
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some of his movies are good but the man himself is a dick
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Honestly i don't understand the Miyazaki hate, like even if you hate his movies shit posting about theman dosen't make any sense.
Are you guys really that bored
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>>284558429
he's the creator of all those memes that you love so much
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>>284557839
Why would you like an actual boomer who hates everything anime stands for, and especially the dedicated fans of the medium?
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>>284557545
>>284558012
All great artists are assholes, they need to be otherwise everyone would walk all over you.
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>>284557243
Self-pity can feel good, anon.
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>>284558527
It's the opposite, anon. His movies are great but he would be much more likeable if he never opened his mouth on any subject. And no, I don't give a shit about his son.
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>>284558577
This
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>>284558577
I was a waiter for the guys from pendulum and some of their staff (back when they were performing as knife party) and they were great. you can make great art and not be a cunt
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>Hayao Miyazaki & Toshio Suzuki discussing Princess Mononoke as potential last Ghibli movie (1996).
>Note: Hayao Miyazaki talked about retiring as movie director in 1986, 1992, 1997, 2001, 2004, 2008 (+ 2013 famous press conference).
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>>284557839
Ironic shitposting from years ago becomes actual shitposting from new tourists
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>>284557141
No life goes forever unbroken.
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Last two digits are how many years he has left
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>>284557839
reminds me of myself
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>>284558012
Okay, why do you care? Do you know Goro personally?
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>>284558859
no but im not going to mourn a man who is abusive to his family and coworkers
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>>284558927
Weird virtue signalling but okay
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>>284557141
Or Nozawa...
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>>284558628
>His movies are great
He has made 1 good movie, 3 barely worth watching and tons of shit ones.
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>>284558859
yes
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>>284558927
You lost your way, twitteroid.
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one day, hiro stikcky.
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I'd be sadder for Tomino.
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>>284559049
THE Hiroshima Nagasaki? Imagine the hate.
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>>284557839
basically what >>284558787 says
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>>284557141
Good. That faggot is an enemy of everything I love about anime except literally loli.
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>>284557839
He is the embodiment of old man yells at cloud
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>>284559167
but we're the old man now
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>>284557141
that man will outlive 4chan
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>>284557545
>>284558012
He set him up as a film director, that cancels out his rude or "abusive" behaviour. Stop thinking so emotionally.
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I have never watched a Miyazaki movie
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>>284559262
he didnt do shit

https://afistfuloffilm.movie.blog/2020/11/10/studio-ghibli-15-tales-from-earthsea-2006/

>It’s no big secret that Gorō and his father didn’t have a great relationship growing up, and apparently his main exposure to his father was watching his films as a child, and by high school had thought that he wouldn’t achieve the same level as his father and pursued architecture. He retained a connection to his father’s company by working on the Ghibli Museum in Mitaka and later served as it’s director. But Gorō joined the animation team for Tales From Earthsea initially as a consultant but after seeing his work on the storyboards, director and former president of Studio Ghibli, Toshio Suzuki decided that Gorō should direct the film. Hayao disagreed with the decision citing Gorō’s lack of experience as a key factor, which is actually a very valid criticism, and this led to Hayao and his son not speaking during the film’s development.
his disagreement with his son being a director is what caused him to not speak to him. he literally got more of a boost from his coworker than his own father
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>>284559302
Yes he did, they chose him because they knew his father was a famous director. It doesn't matter that he tried to prevent it, he clearly didn't try hard enough by actually trying to conceal his identity. His son can only be thankful.
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>>284559262
None of those losers actually care about his behavior, they just collect those sorts of tidbits to try to degrade Miyazaki's prominence and legacy. A lot of tourists really hate him because his works don't fit their politicized agenda for otaku subculture so there's an ongoing project to write Ghibli films out of otaku history in the western pseudo-fandom of gamergate style tourists. That's why you have these losers who bring up this personal behavior thing despite being absolute worthless rats in their own lives who could never match any sort of minimum standard of goodness that they apply to others.
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>he set him up
>it doesnt matter that he tried to prevent it
I share a board with actual smoothbrain retards. it terrifies me that these invalids are able to vote, likely able to drive, and freely share their opinions for me to read
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>>284559302
ok he's based, so what?
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jrr Tolkien had similar sentiments as Miyazaki i never saw anyone shit on him for .
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>>284559411
Too bad he couldn't prevent it since Goro can't direct for shit
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February 3rd, 2028
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>>284559411
You have no counterargument. You're an emotional faggot whining that Miyazaki enacted a just punishment on his nepo son for making a bad film.
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>>284559391
But doesn't Miyazaki hate otaku culture?
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>>284559484
yes
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>>284559484
Miyazaki a self-hating otaku
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>>284559291
They're simultaneously not as good as everyone hypes them up to be, and worth watching every one as cozy kino
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>>284559490
Surely they'd like him then. a lot of ironic weebs hate genuine otaku culture for tolerating sexual perversion.
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>>284559434
ive seen criticism of tolkiens dislike of frank herberts storytelling but there is much less to go off on because he wasnt public with it and we only know about it because of a single sentence in a private letter that he sent to someone who mailed him a copy of Dune and even then its not exactly comparable to say disliking another authors work is the same as treating your family and fellow artists like shit while recieving (almost) all of the credit for what your studio accomplished
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>>284559484
Many of the people directly involved in the emergence of otaku subculture either tried to prevent it or have spoken against it. The literal king of otaku threw away his crown to shit on moe cancer. It doesn't matter what Miyazaki feels or says though because the inescapable reality is that his work is part of the bedrock for that subculture as legitimized by the hordes of fans and the generations of creators influenced by him. Entire concepts like the beautiful fighting girl would be different if not for Ghibli heroines.
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>>284559434
His works are too autism friendly, few people really care about ghibli films.
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wont be responding to it
its probably even a phone poster
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>>284557545
>the gorgeous art is the work of dozens of people you will never know the names of
I know a lot of their names and they all say the same thing:
>Miyazaki's films are great because the storyboards/layouts are great, and I love working off of Miya-san's direction
The people who think Miyazaki is a cunt just don't work with him after a film. Everyone else sticks around for literal decades.
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>>284559578
He could have just stopped making films. What ways did other authors try to prevent it?
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>>284557141
>mfw someday I will see a Masako Nozawa sticky
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>>284559642
>He could have just stopped making films
Pandora’s box was opened
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>>284559391
Not taking sides here but you can't say someone can't criticize a public figure by accusing them of being a degenerate subhuman themselves. That's a very dishonest way of arguing.
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>>284559642
I was thinking more about the discourse surrounding the use of "otaku" for self-identification, which some people like Otsuka Eiji argued against doing.

>>284559702
Of course I can, because criticism from degenerate pieces of shit doesn't really matter and it's always important to remember that most of the people doing this sort of criticism are dumb assholes who treat others a thousand times worse than Miyazaki ever has, let alone that they are also tourists who don't know the first thing about animation too.
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>>284559746
Why are you on an anonymous imageboard if you want to judge the contents of people's posts by their personalities, which you don't even know?
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>>284559763
Often the content of a post is enough to let you know that the poster is a tourist piece of shit with an empty head and no particular morals
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>>284557141
Why the fuck people on /a/ would care about Dark Souls?
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>>284559829
Is that when someone says something you disagree with?
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>>284559858
It's when someone regurgitates an opinion from the twitter-reddit-/v/ echo chamber of tourists
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>>284557141
Cherish him OP.
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>>284559897
And how would you know if that's true, assuming you don't go to /v/ or those websites?
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>>284559913
Because suddenly a bunch of tourists start posting that nonsense here lol
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One day we will see a Go Nagai sticky
And we will all sing together in mourning
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>>284559675
That's illegal.
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>>284557141
>mfw someday you'll browse /a/ and see the moot sticky
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>>284557839

He's a Commie and Communism is bad

You may commence your seething now.

Still love Castle in the Sky though
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>>284561929
I don't think Miyazaki ever claimed to be a commie. Anyway, you probably seethe a lot about muh jews, because you actually hate capitalism (they're a symbol for capitalism going wrong), so you're a closet commie.
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>>284557839
Why should we like someone who hates otakus
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>>284557839
I hate him because of this quote
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>>284561974
He's very open about his leftist politics.
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>>284561974
>Anyway, you probably seethe a lot about muh jews

I love Jews though, especially ones with big tits!

>so you're a closet commie.

'ate commies
'ate Nazis
'luv me democracy
'luv me free market
'luv me States' Rights

Simple as
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>>284562095
Americans think anything that isn't letting rich people whatever they please is leftism.
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>>284562212
Would you stop seething that somebody called a self admitted communist a communist already?
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>>284558573
>everything anime stands for
Nu-otaku revisionism
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>>284557141
You understand that if Miyazaki met you there is a 99% chance that he would hate you and wished you were dead, right?
You are worshiping a man who would despise you if he knew you existed.
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>>284557141
Which miyazaki?
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>>284561685
he was born in 1988 and is a millionaire
i sincerely doubt anyone currently browsing /a/ will outlive him
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>>284559391
Truke
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>>284559484
He almost always has a point honestly. What's wrong? Can't handle some criticism?
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>>284562678
Goro.
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>>284563026

What's she laughing at?
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>>284559391
That's a lot of word salad, it might work if people don't notice that is a red flag for a manipulative faggot.
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>>284559023
Hope he sees this bro
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>>284557141
not if I die first
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The manga version of Nausicaa basically tells you to your face that Miyazaki would genocide you if he could.
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He'll outlive this... oh nevermind.
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>>284557839
miyazaki films are anime for people that don't like anime
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>>284557839
I have a love hate relationship with his work.
I love (jerking off to) Kiki and Nausicaa.
I hate um...I hate the girls I cant jerk off to mainly the ones that are to old.
Hopes this helps.
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>>284565797
The most tourist take of all
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>>284557141
so?
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>>284565797
The most factual take of all
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>>284565797
Watch more anime
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>>284558096
Don't talk about the Godfather like that.
Just for that, a curse has been put on your bloodline. YOU are going to be the one that gets AIDS. Gay martian space AIDS after they abduct you and fuck your tight ass.
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>>284557141
don't talk like that you'll make me horny
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>>284557141
I will celebrate
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Ninbros...
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>>284558859
No, but when I see a guy I don't know get kicked in the nuts I can put myself in their shoes and empathize with them.
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>>284557141
Don't think he's as well liked as Toriyama. His death probably won't be as big as Tori's here.
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>>284559927
>go on anonymous image board
>judge anons based on the person beyond the anonymous post
Genuine retard alert. Seek mental counseling immediately if you’re so seriously mindbroken that you need to create literal strawmen behind ANONYMOUS posts and then get mad at the strawmen you created.
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>>284568546
Who?
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>>284568654
Posts aren't anonymous when you act like a retard from a tourist echo chamber, just another drone post that should be ridiculed
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I feel a genuine dissatisfaction with life, the past year has been the most miserable of my entire life. Don't make friends anons, they just fuck you over in the long run.
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>>284569667
Maybe don't be a gay shotafag retard and you'll have an easier time making friends, degenero
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>>284557284
I genuinely think Boy and Heron is in his top three.
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Even if Ghibli movies are nothing like the otaku anime that are my main interest i still enjoy watching them very much.
Probably going to watch one on Christmas.
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People pretend to hate on Miyazaki to be contrarian, but deep down every single anon will be immensely sad about it
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>>284557141
>Someday we will see a Norio Wakamoto sticky
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>>284569627
you have zero self-awareness
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>>284569627
>complaining about tourists and drones while phoneposting
self-hate isn't healthy
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>>284570486
Perhaps even sooner than we think.
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>>284557141
Ghibli movies are shit
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>>284558012
Emotional neglect is the worst king of torture for a child.
It pains me to watch bad people being successful on a surface level while good people suffer in life.

It was once my dream to help people in this situation.
Until I found a monster worse than psychopaths who destroyed my belief in unconditional love.
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>>284569667
Cool blog, faggot
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>>284558012
Yeah. The man is extremely talented but he is the BIGGEST cunt and that should never be forgotten.
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>>284557141
S
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>>284558680
>Anecdotal evidence
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I'm really surprised Miyazaki didn't make any sort of statement about OpenAI copying his studio's style. It's a pity, as it would make great foil for some serious shitposting.
In absence of his commentary, and in a desperate need to say anything, journos dredged up his reaction to the CGI zombie animations from I think 2016, which has pretty much nothing to do with what's happening currently.
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>>284571831
He had his beard (and remaining life force) stolen by Anno, he's basically just a dessicated chink puppet now.
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>>284571862
>it's true
Damn, he looks super old now.
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>>284557839
Miyazaki is a motherfucker.
Great and terrible.

He makes great art, but the guy is a workaholic slave driver that is willing to kill himself to finish a project and works his staff just as hard for it.
There's also an element of propaganda to it all. The reality of anime is that there are no auteurs. Making a good anime is too hard and requires too many geniuses in different areas working together for any auteur to actually rule the project. Ghibli as a studio has long practiced decentralized production where department heads and individual animators have a lot of freedom to do their jobs and make choices. This is just a necessity. You couldn't micromanage everything and get a film out on any rational schedule.
But, a major part of Ghibli's branding has been that it is Miyazaki's home and domain. That he is the auteur genius running the show and its films are a reflection of his imagination and brilliance. The reality that every Ghibli film has at least a half dozen people equally important as he was to the project on the staff is not pushed because it doesn't have the same utility at selling tickets. People are inherently skeptical of 'committee projects', even if all their favorite films and shows share multiple major creative leads.
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>>284559943
Didn't even realize that dude was still alive.
The entire 70s must just be a blur of work to him.
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>>284572354
None of them are "equally important" as Miyazaki. There's a reason even the most talented animators get buckbroken by his criticism when working under him.
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>>284572354
Every anecdote of Miyazaki I've heard from former animators working under his thumb and fellow directors is the opposite of what you've said. Yoshinori Kanada is perhaps the most idiosyncratic animator of all time, but you wouldn't discover that by watching a Ghibli movie where are all his quirks are ironed out for consistency.
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>>284572721
Yeah, he's their boss and Ghibli has enough money to swing the bigger dick.
>>284572855
You can absolutely tell when the key animator for a cut changes in Ghibli films.
They're not very consistent as a studio throughout their films. That isn't a bad thing.
They're just good at matching colors and roughly staying on model. Everything else is allowed to float.
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>>284573182
Look man everyone knows Suzuki is brilliant in marketing. That doesn't mean there isn't truth in Miyazaki's role being central and far above the rest of the staff. His control has naturally decreased over time due to his age, and indeed the absolute best animators have always been given an edge in freedom even in Ghibli, but beyond that everything points to an incredibly high degree of control and a primacy of his own creative sensibilities, especially when it comes storyboards and animation direction. Not to mention the theme and expression of the whole film. All far greater than those of an average commercial film. You can easily see his own sensibility tying his body of work together.
In the end, the thing is Suzuki is smart and understood Miyazaki's passion and talent before most people, and that's what led to creating an empire around him.
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>>284557141
Miyazaki will perish but Tomino will still continue...
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>>284558573
Why do the so called "gatekeepers of anime" have such a narrow and conformist view of what anime should be? You are the kind of consumerist fuck who unironically watches and praises all of the isekai, haremshit and moeshit that's been plaguing the medium for so long, yet believes themselves to be knowledgeable and "based" just because they shit on some of the mainstream stuff and make fun of retarded westoids. Guess what, you also have shit taste and should an hero right now.
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>>284557545
yea this nigga knows whats up good post
>>284558577
yah maybe all ur faves but not mine rofl
pseud ass nigga lol
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>>284557839
He's a shity person
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>>284558577
>THEY MUST BE ASSHOLES
Go back to /r/eddit
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>>284559391
Fucking retarded babble. Get your head out of your senpai's ass and get a reality check. He's a fuck up person.
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>>284575364
>Why do the so called "gatekeepers of anime" have such a narrow and conformist view of what anime should be?
Because they're tourists trying to redefine fandom based on a western reactionary political agenda. They have to pretend to be legitimate fans with deep knowledge of anime despite everything they say being so laughably wrong that otaku media itself contradicts what they try to claim about anime.

>>284576537
As if you aren't a worthless parasite who acts worse than Miyazaki ever has lol
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>>284562210
Kek it's a good thing you retards lost the elections.
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>>284576603
>REEEEE NOT MY DISCOUNT WALT DISNEY.
The worthless parasite is the autistic child sucking the dick and simping for a retarded old shitter that would treat like shit if he met you. Seethe harder or get better bait.
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>>284576710
No I have zero doubts that the worthless parasite is you, that's why you're doing this contrarian tantrum over a revered figure in actual otaku fandom. Tourists are the only ones who dislike Miyazaki or make the silly claim that his work hasn't defined anime for generations and inspired all of the otaku creators you could ever cite as favorites.
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what I really wont be able to bear is Susumu Hirasawa dying
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>>284575364
>dumbass newfag tourist who is part of the people who do dumb shit like fucking up subs
>narrow
The hypocrisy is insane,holy shit. You retards are the reason nips don't want their manga or games translated.
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>>284576840
>The hypocrisy is insane
You're talking about yourself here
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what the fuck is up with the captcha, it's so inconvenient and gay as fuck
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>>284558012
you are a fucking faggot LMAO
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>>284558012
>>284576983
solved to captcha just to tell you that :>
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>>284576965
this
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>>284557839
Zoomers and tourists.
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>>284557545
>just remember that hes a miserable cunt in real life who walked out on the premiere of his own sons movie and is insufferable to work with
Why the fuck should I give a shit about his children or his personal life? I'm not going to work for him so why should I care about what a bunch of no name assistants had to say about their boss? I care that whatever had his name included was something I enjoyed and that's enough
>the gorgeous art is the work of dozens of people you will never know the names of
Those dozens of people still need someone with a vision, direction and willingness to shoulder the responsibility if everything goes wrong, and none of them were Miyazaki, retard.
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>>284577787
Fuck not again...
Anyway, for a site that has the highest concentration of people complaining about people getting cancelled for things that have nothing to do with their job, they sure are hating him very personally.
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But he already died in 2008
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>>284577252
Those are the ones praising his shit like he is a perfect genius. Boy and Heron is just a bad movie, but nufags think is amazing and deep. Ponyo is a mess, but nufags think is symbolic and unique. Zoomers love Howls Castle, a movie with a mediocre storytelling, symbolism and characters BUT good animation.

I dont like him since he is an asshole and casuals praise his movies as something out of this world. "He made animation being recognized as a mature medium", people really think this. Takahata was a better director an person (rip)
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>>284577812
Well yeah, every reactionary who complains about cancel culture is a hypocrite who just wants a state of affairs where everyone except neonazis are cancelled for any fake outrage while they get to declare their hatred and bigotry from the rooftops
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>>284557545
His son butchered Earthsea. He was too kind to him by merely walking out.
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>>284557839
>stop having different opinions! wait... I know! the unified and collective mind of old /a/ says this! hehe you feel like a newfag now, eh?
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>>284577970
It's not an opinion though, it's just being a stupid contrarian for no other reason than to be a stupid contrarian. Miyazaki is universally praised from the mainstream right down to the interviews given by otaku creators on their inspirations. His mastery of the medium is undisputed and his influence over multiple generations in undeniable. The only type of people who dislike Miyazaki and try to diminish his reputation are tourists with an agenda.
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>>284577970
Yes, I know the general vibe of 4chan years ago.
Come up with some greentext to feel like a winner, ZoomerGTP.
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>>284578080
>you can't hate miyazaki because everyone loves him! you feel stupid now, eh?
*sigh*
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>>284578297
You can't hate him because he's the GOAT. If you hate him you just out yourself as a contrarian tourist whose "opinions" on anime don't matter at all because you're an uneducated freak.
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>>284577872
Kek what a pathetic faggot.
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>>284577823
I read a japanese blog post who complained that Japan was full of pedos, and how they had two Miyazakis.
Fucking moralfags.
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>>284577823
I wasn't on /a/ back then, did this Miyazaki get a sticky?
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>>284578080
Tourists are the main people praising him. He is not a master of the medium, he made movies like ponyo or the latest one. His movies are mainly praised thanks to the animation, something he doesnt do. This might explain why so many people hate him: he's someone whose animated films are famous for their animation, and thanks to that, hes gotten used to creating these "I won't tell you so you can imagine it" scripts that casual viewers disguise as profound when it's just bad/lazy writing. Influence doesnt make someone/something good; dragon ball is very influential. Another reason to hate him: he is not a good person.

Personally i dont hate him, but i dislike when he use the (image) in his movies, especially since he was the one who wrote the Nausicaa manga
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Miyazaki is a furryfag.
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>>284578326
You can cry all you want, but its the truth: Miyazaki isnt a genius, just a bad father
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I've only watched mononoke and chihiro
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>>284578490
>bad/lazy writing
Oh it's you lol
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>>284578490
>>284578530
Utter plebs. People who know their shit all understand and praise Miyazaki's skill and depth as an artist, if anything just for better reasons than casual viewers. Instead you're no less tourist if not more so than those casuals, because they don't really claim to be otaku/gatekeepers in the same way that you retards do. You're the shitstain of this culture, dragging it down with your resentment and idiotic otaku identity agendas that fall flat at minimal serious engagement with this medium, like that other anon said.
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>>284578858
The charade these tourists are engaged in doesn't just fall apart with the slightest scrutiny of the medium itself, every creator and commentator for the past 40 years contradicts them in interviews, magazine articles, academic papers, and published books. That's part of the reason they're trying to erase this past and the real origins of otaku subculture to be supplanted with their western tourist delusions.
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>>284578466
>2008
You seriously expect anyone to remember? Just search the archive with date ranges.
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>>284561984
He's a massive otaku, as much as he likes to LARP otherwise.
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>>284578858
And what did Miyazaki do to become such a cultural pillar of the medium, sir? It's the nufags who talk about him as a genius because of their artistic ignorance. When they see creative designs with excellent animation, they think they've found a gem; something totally spectacular and different! If you really liked art, you could see and understand that. It's not about being a tourist or pretending to be an anime fan; that's nonsense for people who are online 24/7. The reality is this: the nufags think he's a genius because they're surprised by his mediocrity disguised as excellence; regardless of his occasional artistic merit, like the Nausicaa manga that the other anon mentioned. Not seeing and avoiding seeing this, whether out of nostalgia or because of the mistake of confusing influence with quality, is much more harmful than doing "gatekeeping" for a public medium full of accessible marketing and with rapid global growth
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>>284579840
>um akshually Miyazaki is mediocre
Okay tourist
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>>284579104
I don't care about his influence on culture; I have been watching his films and projects since he started. I know him perfectly well. But I'm fed up with people, no matter how important they were, being considered geniuses forever. I mean, that eliminates any kind of conversation within any medium. Miyazaki is generally not a good writer, and the quality of his projects has noticeably declined for some time now (boy an heron is trash). The fact that he's important or has been able to polish the medium indirectly or directly doesn't make him a pillar or genius. As has already been said several times in this thread, influence doesn't equal quality.

My point is simply that he's not a genius and that most of his films are mediocre in several aspects; that's not going to change just because he transformed otaku culture 20 years ago. Howls Castle is garbage in terms of script, only held together by the undeniably incredible animation, but that's not enough to consider him a genius artist.
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>>284580009
>not a good writer
You don't understand writing, you're a contrarian 12 year old
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>>284578792
His writing is often simply mediocre. Ponyo is a convoluted movie with bad writing, denying it wont change anything.
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>>284580066
>Ponyo is a convoluted movie with bad writing
Ponyo is a perfectly written children's film lol
It's actually why I don't really care for Ponyo despite the masterclass in visuals and storytelling
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>tourist tourist ad populum
mods wtf how are those not extremely low quality posts
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>>284580045
>muh metaphore muh create your own movie with this drawings
You're the ignorant one who is surprised to see something "different." Literally cavemen discovering fire for the first time
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>>284580141
Go back to /pol/, maybe your janitors care about that sort of thing there since that debate bro garbage is in the sticky
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>>284580170
>Go back to /pol/
trying way too hard
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>>284580138
>very poor storytelling
>power of love resolves everything
>not a single developed character
It's a mediocre movie. Just because it's for kids is no excuse for bad writing.Disney has done a lot of damage
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>>284580249
Complaining about the power of love is another one of those obvious tourist opinions lol
Cinema sins has done a lot of damage to 12 year olds like you
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>>284558532
I've never heard anyone call Christian Weston Chandler "m00t"
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>>284580324
You're saying it's a well-written movie. The "power of love" and "you have to respect ponyo even though she's different" are something you'd read in a kindergarten book. If you defend it or think it is okay, you're simply not very intelligent
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>>284580324
>lol
>cinema sins (supposedly a yt channel, so I understand you're not capable of forming your opinion without someone telling you.)
>call the others tourists
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>>284558012
I don't get why he hated his Tales from Earthsea so much when he later claimed he liked Earwig and the Witch, which is genuinely one of the worst movies I've ever watched.
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>>284557141
I don't get how Tenshi became an /a/ icon despite never being in a single anime, LN, or manga.
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>>284580571
But she is in the official Touhou manga.
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>>284580443
>something you'd read in a kindergarten book
Almost like it's a movie for kindergartners, thus making it's themes and messages well written because they match the intended audience.

>>284580500
Given his works, I imagine Miyazaki worships Le Guin as a literal goddess and was physically pained seeing a subpar adaption of sacred myth
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>>284557545
Goro shouldn't have been given the opportunity to direct a feature because he had fuck all background in anything animation related. I don't understand why the people at Ghibli allowed it, it makes sense Miyazaki was pissed since it's the most prestigious studio in Japan and everyone there had to earn their position.
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>>284557243
you dont care about me anon?
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>>284580627
>subpar
I haven't read the book, but I thought it was okay.
Meanwhile Earwig and the Witch is an atrocious movie, even without considering the artstyle.



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