Volume 39Itachi Pursuit MissionChapter 358: Chasing C2!!Previous chapter: >>284559569Start: https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/a.desu.meta/subject/Daily%20Naruto%20Chapter/filter/text/page/8/
LET'S GO KIBABROS
>>284580947Pop is dead!?!?
>>284580896>"THAT"Classic Kishi.
Those bombs would have KILLED Shitruto
>>284581005No way that's only 5 meters.
>>284580979Superflat is where it's at!
>>284580979My art is super flat?!
>>284581005>copiedEven Deidara doubts Kekashi is capable of teaching anything.
How is earth better at doing explosions than fire?
>>284581054>explodes>nothing happens uchihas man
>>284581079>>284581082He TANKED that!
>>284581079Best design Sasuke is here
>>284581098>Deidarafags will complain about unfairness while getting help from Tobi
Deidara dying here is one of the biggest mistakes kishimoto made and I don't mean just cause of the bs endingDeidara senpai rip
>>284581116How the FUCK did he heard that from this distance?
>>284581119Sasuke uses a Sharingan and Orochimaru's curse mark. It's fair to play dirty
>>284581079People will say the curse mark was useless to Sasuke when he'd die right here without it.
What was the point of forming Hebi when they have no role in this fight?
>>284581119Obito is sabotaging Deidarahis makes no senseIf obito was aiding, sauce would be deadgod I fucking hate obito, I wish it was just tobi
>>284581079>just move fast or tank themDeidaras explosions don't seem so impressive anymore...
>>284581170he needed comrades to kill when the Uchiha genes activate
>>284581153Both are either things he went out of his way to get it or was born with it, Deidara already modified his body for his hidden jutsu he doesn't get to claim underdog status.
>>284581148He didn't. He saw his muscles tensing since Deidara trained his eye.
>>284581183More like, he wasn't helping enough.
Deidara was ROBBED
>>284581193That's is more bullshit than hearing the sound of it.
>>284581192>Deidara already modified his body for his hidden jutsu he doesn't get to claim underdog status.Sasuke GOT GIFTED BOTH OF HIS POWERS. Deidara trained and worked to get the powers.how are these the same things?
>>284581230This IS Bullshit: The Fight after all.
Jobber?>>284581241>Deidara trained and worked to get the powers.All hidden jutsus come from their families retard, it's just as much of a gift.
>>284580947Deidara really is a great guy, gets along with his partners when they aren't giving him shit/trolling him. Bros I don't want him to go...
>>284581266Food came
>>284581177>I won! That's it for Shippuden!
>>284581258>Literally dabbing on Deidarakeks
>>284581290>Not "that's it for part 2"You had one job.
>>284581241>Deidara trained and worked to get the powers.Actual hardwork or Minato/Naruto hardwork?
>>284581163>>284581282So he lost the wing and it's bleeding but he doesn't feel anything?>umm actually IT WAS 4D CHESS to hop on the sword. Ignore that I lost a limb... I'm Saucekek the GeniusI'm not buying this fight.
>>284581282>>284581320This fight has plenty of inner dialogue where characters explain EXACTLY what just happened.
>>284581366What was his plan if he put his sword into the ground and hit landmines?
>>284581253That's every fight in part 2.
>>284581366I mean, it's an extra limb created by the curse mark, it'd be weird if damaging it was fatal.
>>284581005It bothers me how Sasuke does a long range lightning sword and Deidara's instinct is to call it a Kakashi move. It just looks like a generic Raiton move any Kumo guy should have, wtf are they doing in universe to where Deidara associates it more with some Konoha guy before them?Also did Kakashi even use Raikiri against Deidara, I only remember the Kamui spam.>>284581258smartsuke. this really isn't a bad fight until the ending.>>284581340brutality
>>284581320Only Susgenius could come up with the idea of JUMPING.
>Sasuke saved by his wings twice at this pointAPOLOGIZE!
>>284581347enough work to train your eyes for years to prevent Sharingan bullshit. We don't even see people from Konoha having that sort of thinking and discipline, not even the Jonin like Kakashi
>>284581366Anon, did you miss the part where Deidara treated losing both of his arms as minor inconveniences 3 arcs ago?
>>284581425i mean it is pretty smart, as far as Kishimoto goes. If this were HxH or something Deidara wouldn't assume the chidori spear capped at that range or that Sasuke had no means to get closer and wouldn't be just a few feet from the sweetspot. But that's not the writing we have.
>>284581450>YearsDeidara is one of the newest akatsukis, i doubt he had that much time to train.Eitherway, that doesn't answer my question.
This range talk is reminding me of Jojo.
>>284581463he had no idea Kakashi could send his arms to an alternate dimension from distance. It was so bullshit he treated it like a comedy
>>284581488>Deidara is one of the newest akatsukis, i doubt he had that much time to train.he seemed to be a couple years younger when Akatsuki recruited him. if that wasn't anime filler
Reminder that Naruto, Kakashi, and the others have no idea Deidara is alive.
>>284581340>BLAST(ED)
>>284581397I guess he just has intel that Kakashi taught Sasuke how to use lightning release so he just assumed.
>>284581584Then why say he "copied" from Kakashi?
sorry, deidarasasuke hard counters youif you just flew all the way up and bombed everything around you, you would've won though
See ya tomorrow, anons.
>>284581565I wanted to talk about this>Deidara is age 19 in Shippuden>therefore was 16-17 as a silhouette at the end of Part I>somewhere before this, had the recruitment skirmish with Itachi>was a terrorist bomber for hire who deserted Iwagakure even before this>has a hate boner for Orochimaru/was going to care of him, might just be picking up the slack for Sasori thereI can see why Naruto only ever got Databooks for characters/jutsu but never an official timeline. Itachi and Deidara lived their lives like speedruns.>>284581696ty
>>284581696Thanks for the chapter. I hope my hero Kiba makes an appearance soon
>>284581340>>284581677>>284581696Arigatou, OUR LEADER!
>>284581728Never lose faith, Kibabro...
>>284581340What's the deal with Kishimoto with Deidara's arms?
>>284581079Thank god the explosive tags Shikamaru used against Hidan weren't this type of explosion.
>>284581054Sasuke keeps dodging the blast AFTER it detonated and keeps coming out of the smoke. Does the shockwave not do anything to him?
>>284581721I wonder if Akatsuki considered getting this guy in the team
>>284581340What if Deidara just died here?
>>284582252He was a child when Oro got him, and considering his squad wasn't famous even as his lackies i doubt he was known.
>>284582284Nah, Zetsu was everywhere. He saw him and the others killing the Kazekage
So Deidara lost because he was hovering 7 meters off the ground instead of 10, 20, 50...what I'm saying is he had a lot of space to not be close to Sauce and just fire his bombs.
>>284582330That's filler and even then i doubt Zetsu told anyone.
>>284582352How could he expect him to JUMP?!
>>284581190He IS Ashura's reincarnation, after all. Only makes sense that he'd build a fodder squad after chasing everyone off so he can kill them
>>284581320Deidara is not very good at estimating distance if he thought this was a 5 metre reaching attack. That's at least 20 metres.
>>284582352He couldn't have predicted that Sasuke is immune to physical trauma and concussion. It was a fair fight all things considered. Razor thin I might add
>>284582252>>284582284>>284582330>>284582466He was religiously devoted to Orochimaru, who was already stronger than most people in the Akatsuki (really everyone but Pain/Itachi/maybe Kisame).Wasn't worth the effort. Plus if Zetsu was watching, he saw the kid was dying before even Oro did. He was Akatsuki level tho, given him and Chiyo are basically the only ones who make it through the length of the war, and she's kage level
>explode himnothing.>steps on a mine in the groundnothing.>EXPLODE ONE OF HIS WINGS OFFnothing.>HE'S BLEEDING FROM THE MISSING LIMBnothing.>JUMPS WITH PERFECT PRECISION AND HIS BALANCE ISN'T AFFECTED AT ALL from missing one of his giant wingswhat the fuck is this fightDeidara is robbed left and right
>>284582661>He was religiously devoted to Orochimaru, who was already stronger than most people in the Akatsuki
>>284581079>>284581282Gotta say, I like CM2 Sasuke much more in his Shippuden outfit compared to Part 1
>>284582709he beats Kuckuzu ez. He escapes from Sasori + Deidara, tanks a 4tail Naruto while unable to use jutsu (same level that nearly kills Jiraiya). Oro at full power is easily kage level
>QUICK IT'S GENIN REUNION LET'S CALL ALL GENINS>it's always the same 11 onesare they the only fucking genins or what? didnt naruto have like +20 background classmates or something? who all pased the genin test "transformation jutsu"??
>>284582709You posted 2 characters weaker than Orochimaru.
>>284583017How could they forget about their bro...>>284581836
>>284583017>that picso fake. Shino would murder Bort in 2 seconds
>>284583077That's not what this reunion is about.
>>284583017Yeah I really prefer the Bort genin promotion, where you have to demonstrate basic literacy + skills (test and walking up a wall/on water), then pass a more difficult bell test (which is exaggerated difficulty just to make them prove they can work as a team and keep going against odds)Makes a lot more sense than sending out 12yos who have demonstrated nothing more than a skill that's fundamentally useless in battle. I get they're supposed to do D rank while training, but atp they should just stay in the academy longer. I guess it's bc the village was more at risk at that time, and they just sacrificed children w no skills to fill in (t Hiruzen)
How come the mine detonation didn't explode his legs away? The next explosion took his whole wing off.
>>284582709Ya know, i don't get why scratching your village symbol is something only seen with the akatsuki, you'd think it'd be more common with other rogue nin like Zabuza but i guess not.
>>284583120He used it to shield him, Deidara literally said it.
Explosives tier list:Konoha bombs>Iwa bombs>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Suna bombs.
>>284583120Sasuke developed the next step after>just don't get hitFor him its>just get hit
>>284583017>>284583104i gotta say i like this ending, it got charm and sovlatlrast in boruto all these +20 background characters actually have presence, and they are mentioned oftenly, doing genins stuff. and they say boruto generation lacks shinobis as opposed to the past generation lol the irony
>>284583120maybe the wing one was a bigger explosion from the big clay bird
>>284583104The thing here is that Kishimoto wants to have his cake and eat it, genin are supposed to pick up their schitck either from their mentor or from anywhere but rarely if ever actually comes into play so it just becomes a needless limitation to showcase in the most forced way how "le cruel the ninja world is" while it doesn't want you to think how it even got that far.
>DeidaraSamui solos
>>284583263TRUE!
>>284583017>didnt naruto have like +20 background classmates or somethingAnd don't forget, after the timeskip Shikamaru said Naruto is the last "of their class" who hasn't passed the chunin test.
>>284583439Shika doesn't consider Sasuke a classmate anymore?
Hiashi won.
>>28458102830 feet looks like a good estimate for it
Tobi is such a cool guy he should have sex with me
>>284582143Shockwaves don't do anything in anime if you're strong enough
>>284583263Do you think Hidan could die from overstimulation if her and Yugito boobsandwiched his face?
>that jutsu...
>>284583195fuck im retardedhttps://youtu.be/9FM-JEhSgFwdont blame me i had to leave
>>284581272Say what you will about Deidara and Kisame, they were fucked in the head but remained loyal to Akatsuki to the end.
>>284583439in boruto naruto outright told team 5 (especially iwabee) that he wasnt technically even a chuunin (to teach him ranks arent that important, he became a hokage as a genin)
>>284581397I think Deidara knew fuck all about basic Raiton even if Bakuton release is a combination of Raiton and Doton. Probably he figured it's a Chidori derivate.
Sasuke would be deaf for the rest of the fight. But that should have been the least of his worrieshttps://youtu.be/GT9rrnmRxkY?si=KLPA80XZwUWOKmZQ
>>284583124Most missing nin don't want to advertise that shit
>>284581272>>284583703Kinda funny how every single Akatsuki team had better chemistry than the main characters.
>>284581033But I like building my houses in mountain biomes.
>>284582143Uchiha genes
>>284583703kisame is overrated cunt, worst akatsuki. sucking the edgy evil guy"s dick doesnt make him good. he remained a dirtbag to the endfor everything i read I thought he was gomna have redeption, have any sympathetic qualities - he has fucking none. actually god angry when he didnt die that first time. wished the annoying faggot to die already . congrats to samehada for dropping the cuntworst akatsuki
>>284583740I remember appreciating that filler at the end of the anime where Kakashi tells Naruto to take two years of classes and he'll become a jonin. Too bad that was ignored
>>284581391That's every fight in every medium EVER.
>>284584078>for everything i read I thought he was gomna have redeption, have any sympathetic qualities - he has fucking nonebecause yes, I read his "lee ebin loyal xd" thing, thought he suffered something or that he was forced to do something, etc. turns out he fucking betrayed his own peers, his own friends because he fucking wanted to. nobody told him to betray them. he gave no fuck about his friendshe had no tragedy. everything he did he did it on his own
>>284581366Pain has never stopped anyone in Naruto.
Reminder that this is one of the best fights in the anime
>>284584078>>284584172Stop having a melty, Suigetsu.
reminder that hinawari zettai ryouiki
>>284581026Deidara... His plot armor is too strong.
What was Deidara’s major miscalculation up to this point?
>>284581098Man I really do like Tobi and Deidara's relationship. They also have some pretty funny moments in the anime together, like when they're capturing the 3 tails (can't remember if it's also in the manga) eating dango, Tobi hiding behind trees acting like a schoolgirl, and Tobi falling asleep while Deidara is talking to him.
>>284581163This is classic Sasuke move btw
>>284584317Thinking Sasuke couldn't jump.
>>284581163>>284584332But how and when did he set that up amidst all the explosions?
>>284581116I love that dragon nigga.
>>284583017>are they the only fucking genins or what?The Rookie Nine (and Team Gai) are the only ones that matter
>>284581340I can't believe Deidara is fucking dead.
>>284584332I thought a classic Sasuke move was karate chopping Sakura to knock her out, attempting to chidori Sakura when her back is turned, and putting Sakura in a genjutsu where he actually does run her through?
>>284584317Not flying at a higher altitude.
>>284581340It would have been really funny if Deidara just died here, that’s how he goes.
Favourite NUNS2 character(s)? Mine is Kiba, Hinata, or Minato
>>284584425btw who are the dozens of generic looking adult shinobis? chuunins? jounins?? I never understood what they were(actually they wore shikamaru vest... so I think that answers my question...)but what is jounin??WHAT IS A SANNIN!? I know, san is japanese three, thus level 3. so what, is there another exam to select sannin?everything is so confusing
>>284584317Not being Obi Wan.
>>284584561Maybe re-read/watch and pay attention this time?
>>284584561Most adult ninjas you see are Chuunin-Jounin.Jounins are considered the most elite top class ninja; made to lead and teach the next generation and also be the first to mobilize when shit is getting dire.Sannin is just a title Hanzo gave to Jiraiya, Orochimaru, and Tsunade for surviving against him. It's not an official rank
>>284581079>chad markBased. Kishi was a retard for getting rid of it.
>>284584561>btw who are the dozens of generic looking adult shinobis?Chunnin and jounins. There's no uniform difference between the two and as far as I'm aware there's no actual visual tell that alerts if someone is one or the other. >but what is jounin??The rank above chunnin and seemingly the only role in which you're actually expected to lead your own genin squad despite chunnins explicitly being the "leadership role in early Naruto. If someone is a jounin they should by all rules be a real motherfucker and chunnins are basically bitches. >WHAT IS A SANNIN!? A title Hanzo gave to Oro, Jiraiya, and Tsunade for not dying against him in the war.
>>284584655>Jogo’s cumSorry. It lost all aura…
>>284581153>uses a SharinganThat's his own power>and Orochimaru's curse mark. Power from someone else just like Deidara's mouth hands.
>>284581320>>284581282>HE JUST DID A THING THAT HE JUST DIDThis is a GPT level of monologue. How did anyone read this with a straight face, and then thought "Yeah, this is good".
>>284581347>Actual hardwork or Minato/Naruto hardwork?same thing
>>284581177>>284581258>>284581320Why did the dragon Deidara shot at Sasuke disappear?
>>284584591>>284584633oh, so I confused chuunin and jounin, since they sound similar and I dont know what "jou" means. so kakashi, kurenai etc are jounin? the shinobi who lead??BUTaren't those chuunins? here this anon mentions it too >>284584660...but looking it that way, yeah it makes a little more sense... jounin are tough motherfuckers, they are the big artillery. they are our main characters (kakashi and co)...What are iruka, hibiki, anko, etc..? as I said, I've been confusing chuunin and jounin all the time, so my perception is fucked up by now...by giving it a second tough, I take it chuunin is just being an official competent shinobi. like finishing high school, being +18 etc. it doesn't make you a big motherfucker, it just opens you doors. I take it this is what chuunins are
>>284581258>>284581282I never got what Sasuke's chidori isn't black anymore when using curse mark lvl 2 like it was in the valley of the end. Did they ever explain it?
>>284584680>It lost all auraNope.
>>284584830summarygenins is finishing elementary school/going through secondary schoolchuunin is finishing our high school or becoming +18. you know, becoming adults (in a shinobi way)jounin are tough motherfuckers, they are experienced, special shinobis. they are our doctors, and the like- etc whatever i got bored of this
>>284584561Genin are rank-and-file ninja, they either work independently or take orders from higher ranks. Chunin are supposed to be small time team leaders for lower level missions, and take orders from Jonin. Jonin are elites who lead multiple teams and only answer to the Kage.think of Genin as army privates, Chunin as NCOs, and Jonin as COs.
>>284581054Asumabros, our explosive was so pathetic compared to Godara..
>>284581098Looks too much like Ino in that first panel
>>284584965Chadsuma doesn't cheat by using clay and a stolen forbidden jutsu.
>>284581153Deidara is so much better than Suckske here, and in the end it comes down to bullshit nature hardcounter
>>284585018>O my chakra knife
>>284584965Yes but Deidara is about to die a virgin
Ok.Surely Naruto vs Pain is gonna fucking rock.Right?
>>284581005don't diss chidori spear, it has a good fight record.
i want to say, by watching boruto, a month has passed, i'm at episode 130i'm STILL feeling touched and nostalgic, emotional, to watch naruto fulfilling his dream, to watch everybody I grew up becoming adultsI grew up with og naruto and the ps2 games. I refused to watch shitppuden all these yearsnow, this year, after finally giving it a try and by watching all naruto, I FINALLY understood all the growth and development they all went through. and I conclused:Naruto truly has to be the most beautiful anime. it truly was a rideand it still is the travelling to the past episode >>284583017 reminded me of this. and, previous to that episode, they talked about jiraiya, and damm he was a wholesome hero, someone to truly praise and admire. I felt emotional all the timekakashi too, whenver he appears onscreen, he does nothing but spread aura. he does nothing but remind me what a fucking good anime naruto isI'm emotional all the timethey tell boruto "you really are similar to your father" and that dialogue alone does things to me. I automatically picture kid naruto in my mind, and I remember the joyful times with my ps2, the ultimate ninja 2 and 3 games I loved so much. I also remember what shippuden meant to me back then, it was like dragon ball af, it was "that one new sequel" but that we were never able to watch it. Everything I had was ultimate ninja 5
>>284581340Deidara having a bit of an aiiee moment here
>>284584991
>>284585121Strong enough to decapitate an S-rank ninja.
>>284581320That's a really high jump man, a true Shōnen Jump™
>>284585089>Deidara against Gaara>has to cheat to win by holding the village hostage>Deidara against Nart and Kakashi>has to run away like a little bitch>Deidara against Sauce>has to have Tobi help him and has to commit suicide to win, and he STILL losesDeidara was faggot.
>>284580896>"that jutsu"
>>284585613>Normal man vs 2 jinchuriki/2 reincarnated sons of god/3kage level shinobiLiterally unkillable, no one can kill this guy
>>284580896"!"
>>284580973The naruto universe has guided missiles?
>>284581079Such good design.
>>284584800Lol, lmao
>>284585819>>"normal man"
>>284581054>>284581026>>284581005>>284580973>>284580947If Deidara mixed some rocks into his clay he'd be 1000% more lethal. It would be trivial to just lace his clay with gravel as he makes it (he has to know Earth jutsu) and make every bomb into a frag grenade instead of just HE.
>>284581098Deidara should've really kept his mouth shut here
Guys I don't think Diedara is built for akatsuki... he got styled on by naruto, kakashi, and sasuke. shame that we doesn't survive to fight sakura.
>>284584830Everyone else explained it so I'll just name who's who.>JoninKakashi, Kurenai, Asuma, Gai, Neji (part 2)>ChuninShikamaru, and the rest of the Rookie Nine (minus Naruto because he didn't take the exam and Sasuke because he's a rogue ninja)>Tokubetsu Jonin (a rank for people who are highly specialized in a certain field so they're above Chuunin, but not quite as specialized as a Jonin)Anko(they never say what she's good at, tracking?), Hibiki (torture and interrogation), Ebisu (teaching).
>>284581119Tobi is half-helping, half-sabotaging Deidara. Sometimes he's useful, sometimes he's actively distracting Deidara. He doesn't really care who wins here.
>>284585819>reincarnated sons of godOnly power they got because of that was when Hagoromo gave them power ups.
Deidara would have squad wiped both team Gai and Kekashi if it wasn't for the Tobi assist
>>284585568>sakura pretending her tits are are big as Star'sCHEST PADDER OFF THE PORT BOW
>>284586009I cannot refute this..
>>284585908Concession accepted.
>>284584317Saying that his bombs detonate automatically. The fight was basically over when Sasuke figured out he could disarm his bombs
>>284586009
>>284584841The colored manga isn't really overseen by Kishimoto that deeply. They probably just forgot that they did that once.
>>284585957Deidara would've killed Naruto if he didn't lose both his arms
>>284584317Not instantly dropping C4 Garuda the moment he saw Sasuke
Yondaimebros, we aren't gonna lose Deidara too, right? Our organization can't be losing members like this every arc.
>>284586118>>284586159>Deidara would've killed Naru-
>>284586118Shartruto don't look so great here hitting a guy with zero arms
>>284581258Amazing how something as simple as this comes across as far more intelligent than anything Shikamaru did in the last arc
>>284586190>Armless and out of chakra
>>284586218Interesting how he is out of chakra using far less explosives than he used to take down Gaara.
>>284586158>The colored manga isn't really overseen by Kishimoto that deeply.It wasn't black when using CM2 in part 2 in the original manga either >>284581626
>>284581385Then he could land in that spot since it just got cleared. Works either way.
Deidara employed such a powerful jutsu with zero arms that it put Kakashi in bed for weeks
>>284584991I remember some dumb theory that he was related to Naruto.
>>284586363>cope
How is Deidara getting speed blitzed by Sasuke when he has been able to dodge Gaara’s attacks along with dodging Team Guy and others to escape. Sauce’s speedwank is embarrassing, and has been since the chunin exams when he is “fast” out of nowhere.
>>284581347Minato worked very hard to be born with super speed and a 199 IQ and sensor powers and huge chakra reserves
>>284586470Gaara's attacks are slow. His defense only seems fast to genin level ninja. The only reason he is kazekage is because the bar is low.
>>284583586Hidan is gay
>>284586470Sasuke being fast has been standard. He was already keeping up with Haku back in the first arc. He has never not been extremely fast. He was mogged by Rock Lee once, and people seem to have overwritten his entire character because of that.
>>284584172>turns out he fucking betrayed his own peers, his own friends because he fucking wanted to. nobody told him to betray them. he gave no fuck about his friends>he had no tragedy. everything he did he did it on his ownBased.
>>284586470Sasuke has been faster than Gaara since Part 1. And for Team Guy, he's just faster than them now (at least when Lee and Guy aren't using the gates).
>>284586565>His defense only seems fast to genin level ninjaThe Jounin seemed to be impressed by it during the exams.
>>284584991Why didn't Ino just beat the shit out of Sakura instead of using mind transfer?
>>284586657At what point did Ino ever give you an impression of being competent?
>>284586601It was a pretty hard mog, probably the main thing I take umbrage to is how quickly he was matching Lee’s speed when he was slower than Lee with weights. Good point about Haku though. >>284586657She pretty much outdid Sakura in their whole fight and got screwed out a win by meme schizophrenia.
>>284586674
>>284582565Despite what the visible damage suggests, this fight came down to a razor thin margin.
>>284586657Because she wasn't strong enough for that. That's why she used mind transfer in the first place you sakura hating schizo.
>>284582565>It was a fair fight all things considered2v1 wasn't fair.
>>284586202How did Narutofags ever recover from this entire arc? It was a humiliation ritual
>humiliation ritualGo back
>>284586812She immobilized her with her hair. That was a perfect W right there.
>>284586202
>>284585568>Raven Hinata
>>284586858Immobilizing someone doesn't win the fight.
>>284587287It apparently gets you a promotion to chunin. See Shikamaru
>>284585568Hinata is the jobber, as expected...
>>284586158>The colored manga isn't really overseen by Kishimoto that deeplyIt's not overseen by him at all, it's fan-made. That's why B/W will always be superior, too bad it's censored to hell by Viz
>>284586646You mean when they easily stopped it and ended his fight?
>>284581079>O MY CURSE MARK PREVENTING ME FROM JOBBING 2 MINUTES IN
>>284587359It's not fan made. You are thinking of the colored version that came out back in the day like color kage. This is an official release but it's definitely not overseen by Kishi.
>>284587404Only Guy stepped in, and he didn't blitz his defense.
>>284587531Oh yeah I was mixing it up with when they stopped Neji. Funny how they treated Neji as a bigger threat kek
Why don't I mind Naruto having infinite fox chakra but Sasuke relying on his curse mark rubs me the wrong the way?
>>284587558Politically he was. Lee is a literallywho, if Neji tardraged too hard and killed Hinata that would be a giant clusterfuck. Just the opposite, it wouldn't be that scary if Hinata was beating Neji to death, but it would be bad if Rock Lee shattered Gaara's skull.
>>284587605Protagonist bias. The same reason people cry about Sasuke wank, but love Naruto mastering legendary techniques in a week and getting jerked off by the entire side cast.
>>284587605I think the curse marks were never really shown to have enough of a draw back while Naruto's overuse of 9 tails at this point in the story is has risks. It seemed like a similar tradeoff when the curse mark made you insane or loyal or enslaved you to Orochimaru but at this point it's just a chakra amp with no noticeable downsides. Perfected sage mode and later perfect 9 tails mode feel similarly bullshit at times to me.
>>284587612I just interpreted it as Neji really being that strong that all the jonin went to restrain him at once. But your interpretation of it makes sense too. Politics. They were putting that filthy branch member in his place like Hiruzen would want.
>>284587605Maybe you're racist?
>>284587718Uchi*a aren't a race but a disease.
>>284587605Because the curse mark is some gay hickey from the snake man. Sauce was a jobber in part 1 and didn’t really suffer from it while Naruto was antagonized by the village from the 9 Tails. Naruto got his skills stunted by the 9 Tails in the beginning.
>>284587605Maybe you just don't like Sasuke and/or it's also the fact that Naruto's control of the Fox was mediocre for like 80% of the story, it's not like he can just whip out a chakra cloak whenever.
>>284587312Shikamaru really mindbroke you huh
>>284587605>but Sasuke relying on his curse mark rubs me the wrong the way?Sounds like you're an uchihaphobe.
>>284582565Deidara…he truly is unfathomable
Shouldn’t Obito be going blind from using his Mangekyo Sharingan this much?
>>284585983>Distracting DeidaraThis is cope.
>>284588211He's barely a human at this point. He's basically a golem.
>>284588211Hashirama cells. Stop asking questions.
>>284588211He's zetsu powered.
>>284587312The idea was that Shikamaru could've forced Temari to give up, by controlling her entire body.Ino merely glued Sakura's feet to the floot.
>>284588211It would have been better if Obito actually died and Zetsu just took over his body.
>>284587667>I think the curse marks were never really shown to have enough of a drawDid you forget the fact that Sasuke is such a chakra let he can't even use CM2 for as long as Kidomaru.Also, lmao at you thinking Kurama seems more fair when it literally regrew Naruto's LUNG.
>>284587850>Naruto got his skills stunted by the 9 Tails in the beginning.Everything that Kurama made worse for Naruto is insignificant compared to the upsides.
>>284588275Oh of course! HASHIRAMA CELLS!!! Duh-doy!
>>284588307It would have been based if Temari knew a mouth activated wind jutsu and she blew it in face when they walked close to eachother
Do you enjoy your Saucewank as a suitable replacement for Shikawank?
>>284588431Sasuke is a main character and actually interesting, so yes.
OH MY GOD WHY DO I HAVE TO DO THE CAPTCHA 3 TIMES IN A ROW????
>>284588497Are you on phone? I hear phone captcha has more steps
>>284588530Other way around for me, PC is having more than the phone.
>>284585172...
>>284581098>let me just explain my entire plan and lose the advantage of surpriseGege really did it well by tying CT explanation to being a binding vow
>>284588431Yes. Not because I like Sasuke, but because Shikamaru being Kishi's self-insert made all the in-universe glazing over the most basic shit disgusting to stomach.
>>284588368Sasuke being a chakra-let has never been relevant except when he was limited to using Chidori in part 1. It never mattered outside of that. As we'll see in this fight.
>>284588431It doesn’t really last that long. It’s pretty much all downhill after this point.
I am so fucking tired of Deidara's "hmm" every other goddamn line. Sasori should've been the one to stick around because this artfag fucking blows.
>>284589108Gege just copied Togashi in that case. It works but I dont think you need to do it. It's just an accepted cliche that people explain their powers.
>>284587605I think I prefer Sasuke's curse mark over tailed Naruto in part 2. Sasuke uses his curse mark strategically and to help prevent him being overwhelmed. He uses it to break Orochimaru's ritual, to defend against Deidara's explosive, and even break out of tsukuyomi. It's Sasuke wank, but this is what he sold two years of his life for along with cutting ties with Konoha. Meanwhile Naruto does jack all in two years just so he can rely on fox chakra and sell himself to it when his feelings hurt for half of part 2.
>>284581282Obesesuke
>>284589163>Sasuke being a chakralet never matteredExcept against Gaara...and Itachi...and Naruto...and every other time he needed to refill his reserves through Karin, Zetsu or Naruto himself.
>>284585935>just mix some rocks in with perfect artDisgusting
>>284585935>just add impurities to your art bro
>>284589504>AIIIIIIIEEEEE SAVE ME NARUTO!!!
>>284586754such a cutie
>>284587663because Naruto has had the capacity to do that from day 1 because of Kurama. the Uchiha went from "just another clan" to walking destroyer gods in the span of about three arcs purely to try and drag Sasuke up to Naruto's level. in fact, Sasuke got boosted so fast that Naruto had to be given sage just to catch back up.
>>284586079>O MY 5 HOURS PF READING A SCROLL AND MASTERING A HIGH LEVEL FORBIDEN JUTSU>O MY REFUGEE GIRLFRIEND WHO GIVES ME LITTLE TIPS THAT ALLOWED ME TO SURPASS HER ENTIRE CLAN IN THEIR SPECIALTY
>>284589610Sasuke isn't nearly a god in this arc.
>>284588467>and actually interestinglol
>>284589662Compared to Shikamaru? Absolutely.
>>284589626Something being hard or not isn't measured by time spent, Leefag.
>>284589718Yes it is.
>>284589626Uzumakis are jobbers. Minato was just built different.
>>284589610>do nothing for three years >how could Sasuke be so much stronger than me??? It MUST be snake roids.>QUICK KISHI>WRITE ME INTO SOME HALF ASSED TRAINING ARCS
>>284589718>Freeza is a hard worker
>>284589732No it isn't retard
>>284589752>/dbs/spic
>>284589759You fags are so obsessed with Kekkei genkai giving advantages that you think Minato doing 10 push ups a day and becoming kage is more earned than Sasuke literally selling his soul to get where he is.What? Are you also going to tell me that everyone bellow Minato were just too lazy?
Hinatachads our next chapter is soon r-right?
>>284589775You mean Kishimoto? Kishimoto is a DBfag.
>>284589788Yes.
Small
>>284589823Get off the computer, Kushina.
>>284589823You complained about Leefags but you're unironically using the same argument they use to justify your headcanon.
>>284589636I meant after he loses the curse mark. Itachi breaking out Susanoo from nowhere and then Sasuke learning it not long after took him/the Uchiha and the sharingan in general from being maybe a bit stronger than the Byakugan to Kage+ tier immediately.
>>284589788>Kekkei genkai out of nowhereKek, you really are a leefag.
>>284589788We didn't see his training arc. We know he was a born genius, but so was Kakashi and that only took him half as far. Jiraiya abandoned him young to go hang out in Rain with Nagato and crew because Rinnegan>>>Seals and came back to a Minato that had already reverse engineered and mastered the Hiraishin.
>>284589867>out of nowhereReread the reply chain and the chapter that was posted.
>>284589871Brother, you could say that about EVERY character.
Going by that logic Sakura is a hard worker.
>>284589921Sure, but this discussion is about whether Minato is 'justified' in being as strong as he is in a world where people complain about Sasuke's power growth. As in, can he be likable and not an annoying gary stu. The issue being that we don't know what Minato's backstory was like other than snippets. He was powerful as a child, Jiraiya trained him for a few years before leaving for Rain, he figured out the Hiraishin, he invented the Rasengan after escaping a Bijuu Bomb, he learned sealing from Kushina. Now, this could either mean that he did all of that effortlessly, or he did it through tons of grinding. >>284589942She is. She worked hard for years under Tsunade to learn her stuff.
>>284589908Still out of nowhere leefag. Minato and Naruto don't have kekkei genkai.
>>284589942I think she made the biggest improvement out of all of Team 7.
>>284581366>Children display superhuman feats since the first chapter>This would logically facilitate superhuman endurance, stamina, among other attributes>Characters display high pain tolerances repeatedly.>Strong characters especially>Sasuke, a strong character, displays high pain tolerance>i'M nOt BuYinG ThiS FighTI've dipped in and out of the daily chapter threads, but this storytime has been largely negative, on such a basic, nit-picky level, especially compared to the previous one a few years back.
>>284589942She is yes. Just because you didn't spend hours a day doing an autistic training regimen doesn't mean you didn't work hard.
>>284589942she is probably the best example of Hard Work > talent in the entire series. when she fights Kaguya, she is legit Kage tier despite being from a non-clan and having no real talent at the start of the series besides marginally better than average chakra control. She outclasses every single one of her peers save for Naruto and Sasuke, including her rival Ino who unlike her comes from a prestigious clan.
>>284589992Huge chakra pool (4x Kakashi's) is an Uzumaki kekkei genkai. Naruto just didn't get the other 3 bloodline limit abilities that Karin has.
>>284590061Sakura's chakra control is her talent.
>>284590075>Huge chakra poolBecause of the seal causing some of Kurama's chakra to leak into Naruto's increasing it over time.
>>284582661>who was already stronger than most people in the Akatsuki>already stronger>stronger2025, and Kimimaro wank is still this high? Zetsu, I could buy. Maybe Hidan, sure. But most? C'mon.
>>284590077hers is only marginally better than normal. basically negligible compared to what she accomplishes later in the series. She also canonically has a below-average chakra pool.
>>284589610The fuck do you mean just another clan. From the get go Uchiha were established as THE clan
>>284590101His mother was chosen among the Uzumaki clan to become a jinchuriki because of her exceptionally vast chakra. He has peak chakra reserves via genetics (inherited trait) AKA kekkei genkai.
>>284590165they were the only clan when the series started. it wasn't until the chunin exams that any other named clans were introduced, and the Hyuuga were explicitly stated to be more prestigious than the Uchiha. the infamy of the Uchiha came from Sasuke being the last living one, and for being Itachi's little brother.
>>284582661>but Pain/Itachi/maybe KisameOro would job to Deidara and Sasori too. And for Kisame it's not a maybe, he would 100% job to him.
>>284590174>He has peak chakra reserves via geneticsNope.
>>284590232>posts nothing related
>>284590186>hyuugaNo they fucking weren't you dumb retard. Uchiha clan was considered the creme de la creme of the shinobi world, the clan of geniuses and elite shinobi. That's why everybody had such high expectations of Sasuke. The only things mentioned about the hyuga in relation to Uchiha were the theory of sharingan being originated from byakugan and the fact that certain perceptive aspects of byakugan are better than those even of sharingan. Hyuga started being considered as the strongest clan in the leaf only after the Uchiha genoicide
>>284590291wrong, retard. Hyuga were more prestigious than Uchiha, Sasuke's hype was because he specifically was a prodigy.
>>284590275Literally says he inherited nothing.
>surpasses the Sharingan
>>284590417>Oldest and greatest bloodlineAfter both senju and Uchiha stopped being a thing, retard.Reread the story, you dumb speed reader. Every time anybody talks about Sasuke they mention that he is from Uchiha clan. Even Zabuza was hyped about that shit
>>284589942She is. She has no special bloodline or from an important clan with secret techniques passed down through generations as her birthright.
>>284590430>in terms of ability of insightWhy are you retards so bad at reading? And even then byakugan give you an ability to see deeper further and wider and that's it. Sharingan's ability to perceive motion is far superior
>>284590467>Senjudidn't exist at the time and are therefore irrelevant for the discussion. >Uchihastill existed, you're projecting your headcanon. word for word, the story states the Hyuuga were older and more prestigious than the Uchiha, the Uchiha were an offshoot of the Hyuuga, and the Byakugan was superior to the Sharingan. black and white, no other interpretation except in the mind of an Uchiha fanboy.
>>284590430>surpasses the sharingan>dies to a sharingan userkek
>>284590497this is a retcon that wasn't stated until Shippuden and you know it. which is exactly what I was talking about. at the time of their introduction, the Hyuuga were explicitly considered higher level than the Uchiha.
>>284590422He's talking about aptitude and innate genius as qualities Naruto did not inherit. He has immense chakra despite almost flunking out of the ninja academy obviously because he makes 1,000 shadow clones. If he had 'nothing' he'd make 1 shadow clone like war arc Kiba.
>>284590467>senjuWhat even happened to this clan? They just seemed to stop existing for no reason.
>>284590510Uchiha literally stopped being a thing. There are only two fucking people left in the whole clan. One is a fledgling and another is a fucking missing nín. It's not a clan no longer. Senju were very much a thing at this point as both 1st and 2nd hojage were introduced in the same arc as a part of senju clan. The Uchiha being offshoot is literally presented as hearsay that's what 'they say' means. And the superiority of byakugan is only relevant in its spatial perception. It's crazy how the dumb retards of you caliber ignore all of the context and framing make up some retarded headcanons and ardently cling to them
>>284590530>He's talking about aptitude and innate genius as qualities Naruto did not inherit.Pure cope. Naruto's normal chakra being so large was literally said to because of Kurama. Fukasaku (top panel) says it, and Naruto even admits this later too.
>>284590517yes, that's what I said. Shippuden turned the Uchiha from a Hyuuga competitor into walking gods. try and keep up. >>284590589>making a Watsonian argument in the middle of a Doylist discussionlow IQ detected>>284590610>in terms of abilitythe irony is palpable in your post
>>284590524How is it a retcon you dumb retard. Read the fucking page you posted with your eyes open>>284590430
>>284590568Suddenly, their final generation were all females so they were integrated into every other fucking clan in the village, with no male heir to pass down the family name.>sourceHashirama revealed it to me in a dream.
>>284581340Deidarafags complain about Sasuke, yet say nothing about how he magically survives this with just his cloack gone btw
>>284590634What doyalist discussion you dumb retard. The very arc that introduced Hyuga also has nobody giving a single fuck about any of the members of the clan participating in the tournament. Everybody literally came to watch Sasuke because he is Uchiha. Hyuga in themselves are a retcon from that point of view because they didn't exist prior to that and Uchiha were recognized as the most elite clan in the village.>the irony is palpableIt is indeed palpable that the ability of perception of byakugan fag is so bad he can't even fucking see that the page he posted doesn't mean what he think it means
>>284590163>hers is only marginally better than normalPure revisionism. Tsunade's ridiculous levels of strength come from her exceptional chakra control, which is why Sakura could learn it, same for byakugou seal. It's why Shizune could never master either despite being with Tsunade for years.
The Hyuga clan is supposed to be prestigious, but the anime and The Last showed random kids picking on the heiress of the clan and suffering no consequences from that.
>>284590773the discussion over how the Hyuga were introduced as the top clan, and then retcons made the Uchiha one of the founding clans and gods on earth. >they were there to see the Uchihathe last* Uchiha.
>>284590779and where does the manga state either of those things?
>>284590806because they got retconned to be a punk clan who can't do shit, and weren't even there for the founding of the village. Kaguya being given the byakugan was almost an inside joke to how bitchmade Kishi made the Hyuuga in shippuden.
>>284590832Read the fucking page I posted faggot. Your shitty retconned clan is nothing. It was established prior that Uchaha are the most elite clan of the village. The fact that we then are told that Hyuga is the most prestigious clan can only mean two things: a retcon if you are a doylist faggot, or that they became the most prestigious clan only recently, now that everybody else of relevance are long time gone
>>284589108Why would it be a surprise when Sasuke already saw what his plan was in the last page, and panel before Deidara Sasuke explains it in his head. Deidara was just bragging about how super cool his plan was
>>284587605Sauce got into snake hackery when he realized that Naruto's Rasengan carried some serious punch.
>>284590875
>he's fast
>>284590875I’m pretty sure they explain that multiple times in the series, when Kakashi sees her strength during the second bell test he starts glazing her for her crazy chakra control. The thing he said about Shizune isn’t really speculation either considering what other explanation for why she never uses it nor other characters not doing it than it’s just hard to do? From Kishimoto pov this is the natural evolution for Sakura since in the land of waves she climbed the tree right away and that training was about chakra control
>>284590901>Your shitty retconned clan is nothingNeji would've won.
>>284590901
>>284589504>Except against GaaraPart 1. Didn't matter after this>and ItachiHe still accomplished his goal and it didn't matter>and NarutoBeat him at VotE. Beat him at the Bridge. End of the series fight, he didn't lose because his chakra reserves, Naruto was just better>and every other time he needed to refill his reserves through Karin, Zetsu or Naruto himself5 Kage Summit is because he was doing multiple battles one after another, and by the time he faces Danzo, his chakra reserves don't matter. It's a superficial drawback that never actually affects him.
This fight was so good in the anime. Well 123. 124 is horrid. 123 isn't talked about enough. Although I wish it ended at Sasuke "dying" to Deidara's molecular breathing air bombs from his giant Deidara instead of the next ep starting with it. It was weird for a Norio Matsumoto episode to have so much yapping. Should have cut all this retarded dialogue of sauce and karasu-lite inner monologuing about what the other just inner monologued about in favor of getting it to end where I wanted it. The hand to hand clay puppets part is so good. I feel like anime is just going to be dead when Norio Matsumoto quits or dies. He's like the only good animator even now. Anime is shit. Anyway let's laugh at bleach for never having a second second of norio matsumoto>naruto - tons of eps>yyh - tons of eps>db/z - Mostly DB, goku vs cell>kenshin - saito fight, trust and betrayal >even worked on momoshiki fight and isshiki fight in BORUTO BLEACHKEKS??
>>284590897Kaguya was an attempt to tie-in Kakashi saying how the sharingan might've been derived from the byakugan all the way back in Part I.
>>284591153>strongest taijutsu style>strongest geninWhat does it have to do with anything you dumb fag?Everything else is either a retcon or a very sensible in narrative interpretation I offer - their the most prestigious position is the consequence of the Uchiha and Senju ceasing to exist
>>284591153Also>byakugan surapsses sharingan completelyWhy did you decide not to include the part when it mentiones the exact aspect of the power where the byakugan has an appear hand? At this point you're merely baiting. Well consider me no longer caught
>>284590901the page that was made before the Land of Waves? all that proves is Kishimoto hadn't thought up the Hyuuga yet. protip: the Hyuuga being stronger than the Uchiha was also a retcon.>>284591212I know. my point was it was such an unnecessary callback considering how much stronger the Sharingan had been made in the interim. by the time of the fight against Kaguya, what does the Byakugan have that the Sharingan doesn't blow out of the water? >it can see Chakraand then Sasuke amaterasu's her. her best move, extradimensional movement, isn't related to her Byakugan and is also something as ordinary as Obito can do with his regular Mangekyo. it's even a plot point that his Kamui lets him do the same shit as the ninja creator goddess.
>>284591029>Sakura wank
>>284590075Minato isn't uzumaki. He's basically just outlandishly gifted and somehow became 1 of 2 total characters to ever learn potentially the most OP jutsu that one can learn (FTG). why others don't bother learning it is anyone's guess, since it's seemingly dependent on little more than sensory abilities.Even Boruto, who is a ninja god from ninja god family, mixed with ninja alien god, isn't able to learn it (just reverse engineer something like it).It's anyone's guess why nobody else utilizes transportation ninjutsu, since basically the most powerful moves in the series (Obito's kamui, Sasuke's rinnegan power, 2nd/4th Hokage's FTG, all summoning jutsu) are transportation
>>284590121practice reading amigo. Orochimaru, not Kimi, is the one referenced there. Kimi is prob close to Akatsuki level, but that's debatable since he's 3/4 dead by that point. Point is he's devoted to Oro, who is upper half Akatsuki level, and so he's not worth trying to recruit, given it won't be without casualties for Akatsuki (outside of Pain nobody beats Kimi + Oro + Kabuto, and even he doesn't if each is close to their best)
>>284591358It never directly states that Hyuga were stronger than Uchiha you dumb fucking retard. It is only ever stated that byakugan is stronger than sharingan when it comes to insight. Given what is shown in the story we know that sharingan does not give its user a nearly 360 degrees view, viewing distance of several kilometers and ability to see through things with precision high enough to perceive things of an incredibly small size. When it comes to these aspects byakugan is indeed superior. But byakugan cannot perceive the motion even remotely as well as sharingan does and it gives no genjutsu boost. The remark about the hyuga being the most prestigious again can be chalked up to the fact that neither the Uchiha nor the senju are any longer in the picture, so it's not like ita even a retcon. However if it was indeed a retcon why the fuck are you complaining about it being corrected back by the author?
>>284590188He did fight both and didn't die lmao. And that was with edo so bad that it doesn't even let him keep the summoned on his side. Oro is better than either of them individually without question. Kisame I can see going either way, Oro has a much wider range of powers and is much more durable, Kisame has much higher straightforward power
>>284591614The 4th was teaching some scrubs the result was it took 4 of them together with no external pressure to pull it off to teleport 2 people
sasjeet, please calm down
>>284581340Thank you for the dump.
BTW isn't rotation a type of skill anybody can learn in theory?
>>284580947The Superflat art movement involves painting, not sculpture.
>>284584317Not nuking Sasuke with one of his most powerful bombs before he knew what they did
>>284581026>Hmmm?Deilinkara
>>284581116with all the focus on the missiles being made out of the dragon's tail, I figured as a kid there was going to be a big twist that Deidara would run out of material at a crucial moment and that's what would allow sasuke to win. Though I guess that would have been a little too cliche after all.
>>284591689Forgot that. It makes it all the more inexcusable others didn't learn it. If Minato's guard could do it together, there's no reason Kakashi, a genius who was known for copying and also was taught by Minato, couldn't do it. Same w Sasuke, and even more so for actual sensory types like Karin (at least she has the excuse of knowing nobody connected to it). 2nd/4th are actually described as sensory types (who just happened to excel at everything else), but the fact that Naruto/Sasuke/Kakashi couldn't figure it out is pretty silly. It's an OP technique w no drawbacks, there's no reason they shouldn't try to teach it to everyone w even minimal sensory skills
>>284591842given Sasuke learns to shoot chidori chakra from his points, yes. That was an asspull and it's prob for the better he never really does it again, since the singular fighting advantage of byakugan is essentially that you know where every point is and can thus use them or attack themWhen people can identify their enemy's, or use their own, chakra points w normal eyes, it basically relegates the byakugan to a very effective scout. always thought it was weird how hyped up, then entirely sidelined after Neji loses to Naruto, and then elevated to Otsutsuki level the byakugan is. As if Kishi couldn't decide if it's the best or the worst (which at least explains the tenseigan, since it's finally a byakugan that can compete w sharingan, except it can't ever exist now that a requisite half of Hamura's chakra is gone for good)
