The ending was good and I'm tired of pretending it wasnt
>>284613297Why did/do EH shippers on this website pretend like they are not female,historia self-inserters?
>>284613322There are no women on 4chan unless proven otherwise.
>>284613322Actually they're mostly mexicans who self insert as Eren for whatever reason imagining they're with a cute blonde white girl
No it wasn't. It wasn't even okay. It was an awful ending, and if someone irl tells me they liked it I think less of them as a person.
Was Eren traveling back in time to make Grisha fuck his mom an asspull
The quality of the ending was in keeping with everything else happening after the time skip.
The memes made from that ending were truly peak
>the avengers managed to stop Eren and save the world>except they get nuked years later because Eren was rightWhat was the message? I really can't tell what the author intended to convey with this mess.
>>284613811Okay, I'll bite. What was so awful about the ending?
>>284614101There is no end to history, the end can never justify the means because things never end, Eren was just an edgy retard who cucked himself out of tight NBR imouto pussy
people only dislike the ending because they were duped by eren's badass persona post-timeskip so hard that they think it was a retcon for him to not be a badasswhen he was never like that, in the whole series, and they just don't get his character. he's a weak moron who cries throughout everything before the timeskip
>>284614167>a whole final arc full of plot holes>characters arcs getting destroyed and ruined retroactively (all that built up for reiner to just sniff a letter and wrestel a worm, you cannot read Eren’s previous growth without thinking they were fake all along etc..)> a whole final battle with an army of shifter an no one is permanently injured beside an already crippled levi>infinite gas and blades>mikasa never developed as a character even until her final days>how the fuck mikasa traveled back to Paradis after the rumbling?!>zeke’s arc was so amfisted and his final confrontation was armin, a character he never met or thematically interacted with before>everything involving Historia>Armin got flanderized hard to the point he was overwanked but also completely useless during the whole arc beside turning into a nuke and giving a speech at the end>annie exists only to be armin’s trophy wife , she even got a very very asspulled “she has to choose if fight or not “ arc>Falco’s flying titan is still a massive asspullI could continue for long long time, but i will just post this to go more in details with what was wrong with the final archttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1cFl4Z5oA736vSYEljnYElhW-xFA0gA_T/view?usp=drivesdk
>>284614231>Duuuuude people disliked it because they are all angry incell chuds>not for the thousands of asspulls, bad written moments, characters ruined, retcon of characters arcs and development>if you disliked the ending you did just because self inserting XDCDXDXDXDXD
>>284613297>>284614231Can you refute this? >>284614307
>>284613297It’s insane how much better it would be without the final chapter, then Eren would die a man pursuing his ideal to the last breath
>>284614428Or die because the alternative was killing most of his friends. Have Ymir re-create the previous titan shifters but have Eren try his best to hold them back until Mikasa and co. got the better of him. You could even have the last chapter the conversation between Armin and Eren but differently. Have Eren lament that he couldn't be the a true devil and kill everyone in his way, that he couldn't kill his friends. And mention nothing of his mom (wtf yams).You can literally have the same outcome but with a better narrative (look I get that it's just a few sentences, but my point is you can have the 80%, you can have Eren breaking down and crying, you can even have the bombing, you can have everything but the story could be altered to have a way stronger legacy).
>>284613297Is it just me or does production value drastically change the value of something? I was a long time reader who enjoyed the ending when it came out in the manga. I was on every major site. It felt like 40-50% major ending hate, 30% neutral, 20% saying it was good.After the anime more people started saying it’s good. It seems like the same thing happened with MHA, Bleach final arc, and will probably happen with the JJK ending too.>anime-onlies are more casual and easier to pleaseMaybe, but it has to be something else, right?
>>284615001>does production value drastically change the value of something?Yes, you don't have to preface "is it just me". Production quality of anything changes the value of something short of brand loyalty where customers eat whatever shit their overlord throws at them.Take KnY for instance, would it be as known if not for the animation, soundtrack and voice acting?Or, for both effects take OPM, would it have been as known if not for the adaptation of season 1? What do you think happened when people saw season 2? What do you think happened when people saw season 3?There are people who value the media with their brain turned off and others with their brain turned on. And there are people who appreciate / dislike how the story was adapted to another medium.Even if I think that the world and character building in KnY is subpar with my brain turned on, the quality of the animation holds it up with my brain turned off.For a total whiplash, a good trilogy that you can enjoy with either brain is PotC.
>>284613348The fujo threads prove otherwise. There's even one up right now.
It's an objectively shit ending but I'll forever love it because it shat on erencucks who turned into some of the most insufferable larpers in history.
>>284615540>all posters are automatically assumed to be male>in order to be recognized as female one must post their tits>posting their tits results in a ban>therefore removing the female from the pool of posters, making all posters male againsimple
>>284613297It was just quite the safe ending for the whole family to enjoy.
>>284614101>we won the fight for american independence!>but 300 years later there was a big war, so it was all fucking pointless!god you're such a doomer faggot, to you no victory is ever worth it if something bad will happen in the future, even if it's long after you are deadjust kill yourself now, because guess what? this is going to keep happening, bad things will eventually happen at some point in the future, so why keep on living if any one of them erases everything in the past for you?
>>284617646>safe ending>"I genocided 90% of humanity for a temporary peace">fun for the kids!why are people on 4chan so retarded now?
why did eren say "I'm gonna kill every last one of them" in his inner monologue shortly after starting the rumbling, when in reality he had been planning to only kill about 70% from the very beginning?
>>284615626Dude just start your router again and delete your browser information
>>284617736Because Isayama was just winging it month by month and it all fell apart when he had to actually write a coherent conclusion instead of just making up another bullshit mystery box.
>>284613297Coming to terms with people who devoted their lives to hating the ending of an anime or manga is apart of enjoy said anime or manga. Attack on Titan was awesome. I don't think the ending was perfect but it had a great ending regardless of what anyone will ever say.
The whole butthurt with this series only exists in the west because people thought it would reaffirm their childish fantasy that killing groups of people they dislike would make the world a better place, it wouldn't, because you would still be living on it.
>>284617736same reason why the annie pie scene exists
>>284613297Most people agree with you.
So at the end the Germans where the good guys?
>>284617868“Most people” *burning 3000kcals/second holding in laughter*
>>284617736>when in reality he had been planning to only kill about 70% from the very beginning?He wasn't, he left it up to the avengers to stop him or let him kill everyone
>>284617953No he didn't. He always intended to let them kill him, as shown shortly before his death, in the flashback scene where he talks to armin and explains what's gonna happen.
>>284617868Reminder
>>284617953he told them "I'm gonna let you kill me so you can negotiate for peace" and then erased their memories and did the whole villain spiel so they'd go through with it. read, nigga
>>284615001The more you think about it, the more Avengers is to blame. >starts as a kingdom defending against titans, zombie movie arc >suddenly political arc>superhero arc??The genre completely changes. In the beginning, everyone's struggling to survive. That is how zombie plots go. Now imagine it's a zombie/titan plot and everyone suddenly puts on a cape costume and say, "yup, I'm Falconman. Defender of Justice". It doesn't work. You have to set this up from the beginning. This isn't mha.That's what happens. People from the political drama all decide they're Survey League: New Avengers - Defenders of Justice. What. the. fuck??My regret is being impatient and reading this slop of a manga instead of waiting for the anime to animate the fights. It's not like the bare plot is good. hopefully at least it looks cool then. That may have been worthy it. cuz damn the art is ugly.
>>284613297It was bad
>>284618012I really think half the seethe with the manga was people upset that their big predictions didn't come true
ANNIE!!Pii is good too I guess!
Zeke's plan to make the Eldians infertile would have led to Eldians being used as sex slaves.
>>284614323the ENTIRE MANGA was asspull after asspull and thats whats fun about it. I dont get how you can complain about the writing after the "everyones memories got wiped" and the time-travel bullshit.
>>284625316That's part of the ending
>>284613297yeah no it started smelling badly after we found out that they were holed up in the walls and had their memories wiped by the king himself. it set the bad precedent. now it fucking started stinking with time travel bullshit. all those fucking corny lines basically murdered the story. funnily enough cringe lines aren't even the worst. eren killing his own mother and 10 years at least was the most pathetic shit I have ever seen. at least let the fucker die with dignity. also characters being completely wasted was a huge no no. hange got killed for shock value, Armin got monged, Connie and Jean were placeholders at that point. Levi should have died when he got blown up. Annie got away with everything and Reiner was a big nothingburger. Historia got absolutely sidelined and had her whole plotline abandoned. another funny one? that asshat shadis letting himself have shit kicked in as a sign of helping his students and then blowing them up some time after. the only salvageable characters were Zeke and that little shit gabi, also falco.
Wouldn't the remaining 20% of the world want to destroy Paradis immediately if their hatred was proven correct by the Rumbling?
>>284613297damn, this specific bait will probably work forever. Like perpetual motion machine. For that reason, while we appreciate your success, we do not grant you the rank of master, OP. Not while you're playing on easy mode.
>>284613322Nah, it's like most shonen fandoms, shipping is 50/50, females just make more fan content about it>>284614231Yeah people tend to prefer character development over character regression
