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>Even Speedwagon is afraid-ing
>Stop spoiling the manga I haven't read it yet-ing
>Diavolo doesn't make any sense-ing
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The SPIN can
>supercharge muscles
>kill people (slowly)
>relay info via steel ball vibrations
>make plants clear paths then the block paths
>follow you while floating in your cape to make a sail
>make champagne shoot like bullets
>turn steel balls into burrowing seeker missiles that still maintain enough rotation underground to trigger cactus shots (finally debunked only 9 volumes later!)
>put people in a peaceful state
>move an injury that would occur from one spot to another
>carve bullets out of rock and shoot them
>make the fingernails of a mummified arm spin
>put a steel ball inside a closed space
>make steel balls of peace move very slowly then remotely speed up to attack speed
>flatten limbs into almost 2d thinness
>destroy scan quality (2 pages limit?)
>not lose momentum even if stationary
>evaporate water
>make a water kamehameha but only for 1 second
>hallucinate rectangles everywhere
>make people look older
>make people look younger
>give a Neapolitan Butt and Boob Lift
>shave you
The SPIN cannot
>make your fingernails spin
>turn your fingernails into aimbot homing cannons
>brush your teeth
>grate cheese
>be used to eat spaghetti
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>>284626360
it's just like hamon
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>>284626285
Dammit, I must have missed the big thread that reached 600+ replies when the trailer hit! I wonder what all my JoJo friends on /a/ thought about the trailer!!

And most importantly, we now have confirmed BATCH RELEASE, 1st batch (episodes 1 to 8) on March 19th! Yay! Netflix!
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>>284626446
i thought they only confirmed the special first episode
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>>284626446
>we now have confirmed BATCH RELEASE, 1st batch (episodes 1 to 8)
No, we don't.
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>>284626446
Not confirmed, just distressingly likely
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>>284626416
Spin > Hamon > Stands
There, I said it
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>>284626446
We love batches!
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>>284626285
Should’ve been in black and white
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>>284626863
bait
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>>284626713
This, but exactly the reverse.
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>>284626416
>Bring hamon back to jojo
>Anons love it
>Even dare to say it's the best JoJo part ever
Why did you guys try to say narratively stands were the better choice?
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>>284626665
It seems possible that it's a batch release, but the question is why would it be? Part 6 flopped compared to every other anime part, and the batch release was a big part of the reason. Fans hate it, people have been complaining for years now. So why would they keep the batch release format? Netflix doesn't even necessarely batch everything they release anymore, there's tons of series with weekly releases there.
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>>284626976
I'd argue stands were better but should have ended sooner. Stone Ocean still using them was probably a bad move but I don't like Stone Ocean anyway so I can't be sure.
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>>284626713
>>284626976
>doesn't melt vampires and zombies into goo
>doesn't have cool lore
>doesn't heal its user or allies
>doesn't let you see the future
>doesn't let you hypnotize people
>doesn't let you walk on water
>doesn't make you a superhuman tank and martial arts master
>doesn't encourage you to improve yourself physically
>doesn't extend your life
>requires materials for you to work with, and if the balls are slightly warped or damaged, it seizes to function
>inconsistent as all hell
>ywn own a cool beetle scarf
Enough with this meme ability.
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>>284627448
>seizes to function
Cease. It ceases to function.
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>>284627448
>inconsistent as hell
That’s all abilities in jojo, lol
>you know remember that lore page in SBR about stands and hamon, all the rules Araki listed have already been contradicted throughout the series
>suddenly connects stone mask to stands for some reason
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>>284627497
fuck
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>>284627535
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I actually totally forgot about JoJo... part 6 after the first batch of 12 episodes. Shit man, I need to rewatch it from the start.
Why the fuck did netflix not do weekly releases? One of the nicest things about part 5 was discussing the part, the memes and as reddit as it sounds, the community being a thing.
Are they gonna do the same batch release with Part 7?
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>>284627525
But Stands break the rules in cool ways that make them unique to the user. Hamon is stagnant, and it breaks its own rules for plot convenience.
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>>284626285
I love well done CGI so much bros. It's insane. I hope Jojolion is directed by Yasufumi Soejima.
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I skipped some of 4, all of 5, and the first half of 6. I think it's about time I watched a Jojo all the way through again.
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>>284627801
Nigger, go read the fucking manga.
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>>284626285
Based
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>>284626285
They've done a very good job at not ruining the horses from what little they've shown. I have hope
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>>284627120
I hear you I just don’t trust any of these companies to learn shit.

I do think they may do two seasons at least
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>>284626360
It's so fucking stupid that Jojolion just drops it altogether, only bringing it back because ThE BuBbLeS ArE SpinNinG for one of the worst finales in a Jojo manga.
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>>284626360
But can the Spin deflect the Space Ripper Stingy Eyes?
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>>284630022
No, Jojolion is stupid, not spin.
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>>284627448
>cant punch through frogs
>cant extend the range of your punch by about 4 inches
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>>284626360
>give a Neapolitan Butt and Boob Lift
when was this?
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>>284630147
So what? How often do you need to punch through Frenchmen? There aren't any French villains in JoJo.
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>>284627448
>can't even stuff a pigeon in someone's mouth without them knowing
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>>284630206
Isn't that when Gyro is with that chick in the flashback?
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>>284630206
Chapter 45.
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>>284630092
>Spin: 0
>Shot glass: 1
>>284630147
>Spin: 0
>Mustache men with cool hats: 1
>>284630401
>Spin: 0
>Italian rapist-pedophile-terrorist-arsonist-jaywalkers: 1
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>>284626285
Release the Phantom Blood movie
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>>284627329
Stands are Araki's winning formula. He would be retarded to drop it since even Part 6 had some good Stands.
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>>284632265
>even Part 6 had some good Stands
Part 6 had some of the coolest Stands in the series.
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>>284632361
tusk my beloved
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>>284632623
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTsbcZpH2VI
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>>284632361
They're definitely better than the stands in Part 5, though nothing can beat my love for Sticky Fingers
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>>284633271
Fair enough. Part 5 Stands are like Looney Tunes abilities, but most Part 6 Stands are full-on science lectures, and that's why I like them.
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>>284633323
>Part 6 Stands are full-on science lectures, and that's why I like them

Weird because I think that's the worst part about them. It takes forever just to explain what the fuck is going on and then I start checking out. But my favorite part is Part 4 so make of that what you will.
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>>284633396
I absolutely love it. Araki just throws everything at the wall.
>a bunch of sentient plankton in a dead body
>sends a tiny spark into your amygdala that turns you feral
>defends itself with meteors falling to earth
>does Final Destination shit to you depending on where you stand, and it's user is piss-drinking Jim Jones
>controls bug cryptids that steal the heat from your body
>digs plane crashes out of the ground
>shrinks you at the perfect rate to make sure you never reach the user (who is a plant baby made out of Jonathan Joestar's toe with like 36 souls inside it btw)
>shifts everything away from itself in all directly, and you need a Mobius strip body to fight it, and it's also the toe baby
Even the stupid weather Stand is allowed to make poison dart frog rain. I'm not surprised Part 7 had to tone the Stands down, because part 6 pushed everything to its limits.
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>>284633700
>Pucci infodumping about psyoping weather patterns via refracted sunlight
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>>284633771
That point in the storytime was a fucking RIOT.
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>>284626285
Nice, another new season of Uma Musume right after Cinderella Gray ended.
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>>284626360
I missed this.
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>>284626360
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people might not remember but /a/ used to laugh at how weak tusk was when sbr was still coming out
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>>284630022
Wasn't Soft and Wet just spin in stand form? That was the ass pull at the end he used to beat Wonder of U
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>>284636641
It was layers of asspulls
>some of the bubbles are strings that SPIN
>some of the bubbles are INVISIBLE
>the invisible bubbles DON'T REAL
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>>284636641
That shit's never not going to annoy me.
I remember early on when Araki established that the bubbles were a solid thing that was split in half between Kira and Josefumi's Stands, just like Gappy's eyes, and I thought it was so cool
Not only does that not make sense if the bubbles are just a spinning string, but it also doesn't make sense for Josefumi to not be a Joestar but still have a Stand that directly relates to Spin.
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>>284628564
the visible netflix logos on the corners somehow make it extremely funny as an image
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>>284633700
>digs plane crashes out of the ground
Sasuga, this is not what Underworld does. It digs up history and moments in time in the area it digs them up. It just happens that the most use it gets is a plane crash.
>shifts everything away from itself in all directly, and you need a Mobius strip body to fight it,
C-Moon's power is complete control over gravity. Mobius strip is only needed if it decides to cause a gravity inversion, therefore such rotation is prevented, and it somehow acts as spin-force, which is total bullshit.
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>>284631999
his skull was behaving aggressively so the steel balls had to non lethally pacify it
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>>284634574
kek
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>>284630790
blame the muslims for that
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Anon, I can only say this once.
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>>284636877
>this is not what Underworld does
I know. It just sounded cool to describe it like that.
>C-Moon's power is complete control over gravity
>Mobius strip is only needed if it decides to cause a gravity inversion
That's entirely wrong. Its two powers are 1) it makes everything in a 2 mile radius repel it, and 2) it inverts whatever it touches. No one else can fight it, and Jolyne's counter to it was turning herself into something that can't be inverted.
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so it's inevitable that they will make the climax into a movie, with no schedule.
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>>284638994
we need that for the D4C fight
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>>284638994
Jojolion is NEVER getting animated. NEVER.
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>>284639278
Good.
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>>284626976
Stands allow for everyone and anyone to be a threat, so the plot has more tension. Weak scrawny cowardly people can be as dangerous as big buff brave people so you need to watch your back all the time. The mistake was making hamon completely unviable in favor of stands with part 3. They should coexist and Joseph should not have been nerfed
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>>284626285
Why is JJBA animation so limited bros? It feels too choppy and just a couple of notches above powerpoint. Compare it with other DavidPro shows like Fire Force and Undead Unluck, this shit feels so stiff. I love the manga, I've read them all but this shitty animation just feels bad. We also deserve the Demon Slayer, JJK, CSM, Fire Force and Undead Unluck treatment rather than whatever this "presentation" is...
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anyone has the timeline of jojo anime in production? is sbr rushed as stone ocean?
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The Part 7 anime is the last thing keeping me alive, I hate that they will only release the first two batches in 2026 and the third one in September 2027.
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>>284626863
this

would be better than the faggy lipstick
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>>284627535
*pluck
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>>284641783
prude
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>>284632265
This. JoJo would fall apart without stands.
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>>284639862
Looks good to me dawg
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I wish Part 7 came out this year, 2026 is the worst year it could've come out.
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>>284642205
>2026 is the worst year it could've come out.
Why?
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>>284642251
Because it ends in a 6. It's part 7. If it released in 2025, it would've been a memorable year (a year that ends in 5), and 2+5 is 7. 2027 ends in a 7 at least, but the 7 still doesn't go well with the 202.
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>>284642286
But 2026 is the year of the horse
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>>284631999
is he ok?
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>>284642517
>he
they're nonbinary
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>>284627448
Star Finger is the only ability you need
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>>284642742
kek
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>>284642286
This is the kind of autism Araki has
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>>284642286
That's the kind of schizobabble I watch JoJo's for.
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>>284642517
>are they/them ok?
No.
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Why is the main theme so mid? yeesh
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>>284642205
>Year of the horse
>Release horse race part
What? It’s perfect tho
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Part 9 will feature an enemy stand whose effect depends on the target's gender and Dragona will use being genderfluid/enby against it to defeat it
Screencap this
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>johnny can do horse spin
>Gyro can’t
Bullshit, he’s already a talented horse driver
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>>284639862
Jojo is more style than animation, which is likely the direction they went for. Most Jojo showdown just boiled down to character standing face to face and quickly deal the finishing blow anyway, not much movement there
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>>284643260
But Gyro literally could, the fuck you think Ball Breaker was? He got fucked by the timing, which caused the spin motion to become imperfect
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>>284643220
The vocals really drag it down
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>Lucy look even more like a child in the anime
FUCK it’s gonna be so funny when she started turning into Britney Spear toward the end
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>>284634919
It is, it require so much setup, Johnny was one of the few who is even qualified to do it in the first place
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>that chapter where Gyro passes Diego by going full schizo with the horse autism
I have to be honest, I had no clue what was going on there
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>>284636641
>>284636839
I mean Spin is literally just an established motion in-universe, you can apply it everywhere if you know how, and it can just happen naturally. I can give you the string part tho, that is pure bs
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>>284628564
Ironically Sandman was such a cool concept for a part about patriotism. He betrayed his own ancestor knowledge and study the white men, but in the end he did it to take back his homeland, which is too, patriotic (even if he betrayed his people for it)
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>>284643220
It's not bad, but it sounds generic as a JoJo theme. Looks like Kanno is trying to recreate the success of il vento d'oro (he won't).
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>>284643349
Diego was mocking his lack of understanding about horses, this in turn make Gyro blood boil and he did the opposite, where he told his horse to just run however he want, Gyro will handle the rest
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>>284627448
Stand user are dumb as hell, Joseph used Hamon WITH his Stand, why don’t people just use both?
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>>284642286
Anon are you a Stand user?
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It's fucking hilarious how many people decided not to watch 2nd half of Stone Ocean just because of netflix's schedule. I wasn't one of those people, I did watch it and it pissed me off that others didn't watch it.

You watched 200 fucking episodes of Jojo and then then skipped the ending! LMAO
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>>284643594
People caring more about the release schedule instead of actual production is retarded. You see it with SBR, I don’t care if they release in batches as long as it looks good. Blaming Netflix for everything is also dumb when they only handle distribution
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>>284643594
most of /a/ aren't anime fans. they're fans of engaging with fandoms
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>>284643594
It's not like they missed much.
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>>284643594
I mean it just mean that they never actually want to watch it, so don’t bother with them
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>>284643594
>it pissed me off that others didn't watch it.
What kind of mental illness is that
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>>284643379
>Ironically Sandman
SOUNDman
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>>284626976
Hamon had already hit its limit by Part 2, and Stand also reached its limit by Part 4.
From Part 5 onward, the battles no longer even feel like fights, they come across more like some kind of athletic quiz competition.
Araki himself may have realized this by the latter half of Part 6, which is why he tried to pivot to a new power system centered on spin but unfortunately, it didn’t really work out.
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>>284643859
2 of the most creative and best stands Araki were in 5 and 6 with sticky fingers and stone free. He just needs to keep stands somewhat simple and not so vague like soft and wet. He’s terrible at writing complicated powers, sure they’re unique but he always writes himself into corner with them and has to resort to retcons and asspulls.
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>>284643594
Let’s be honest, JoJo fans didn’t really care, and those are the people who actually support the franchise. I’m just glad we’re getting a Part 7 adaptation and hopefully Parts 8 and 9 in the future as well. Whether they release it in batches, bring back JoJo Fridays, or split it into cours doesn’t matter to me. I’m simply happy that it’s getting an anime adaptation at all.
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>>284643594
Serves Netflix right. If they don't see the problem with batch releases after their viewership tanked, then they'll never learn.
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>>284644275
>he always writes himself into corner with them and has to resort to retcons and asspulls.
that's part of the whole fun of jojo
even as far back as part 2, the villains with more complex powersets are like these riddles or gordian knots that by their own reckoning can't be solved (beaten), and you watch eagerly with baited breath to see how the protagonist can cheat their way out of this one
it only gets frustrating if you keep approaching it through the lens of an ultimate death battle debate or wikipedia editor trying to pin down hard rules for what someone can or can't do. It's great fun when you see it as more like an umineko debate where the key to victory is weaseling and appealing to technicalities and "well you can't prove the theme of my powers prevents me from using them this way" type shit
like star finger and shrinking stands make perfect sense when viewed through the lens that all stands are, on a fundamental level, telekinesis, like the vectors in elfen lied. after all Araki came up with the idea by ponder how one esper would perceive the telekinesis of another esper. and then those applications just never came up again because there's no satisfying "you didn't know/think I could do that" moment if they use the same 'arguments' more than once
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Is the 47 minutes episode covering the ENTIRE first stage?
First stage is almost 380 pages from beginning (Sandman and his tribe) to end (Gyro winning and being disqualified).
Jojo has always covered, like, 80 pages per episode, part 1 and 2 covering 100 pages. Now, this special episode could cover 200 pages, maybe even 250 if they wanna pace it VEEERY fast. Let's say Sandman story will be moved to the Silent Way arc, there would be still almost 110 pages to cover. If it'the entire first stage, they're gonna butcher it like hell.
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>>284644564
Just cut down the fights no one cares about like boom family
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>>284644564
>Mrs. Robinson memoryholed
A fitting fate for such a stupid jobber.
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>>284644603
That was in 2nd stage.
In first stage we have:
Sandman
Pocoloco
Gyro's duel
Gyro e Johnny meeting
Johnny backstory
Johnny struggling to get on horse again
Stephen describing the race
The first chunk of the race where Gyro defeats Urmd Avdol
The part in the forest with Pocoloco
The bridge part with Diego
Pocoloco awakening his stand
The last chunk with the finish line
Gyro disqualified

All of this in 47 minutes...
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>>284644564
Sandman's opening perfectly sets up the story's setting/steel balls/the race, and repurposing it as a flashback would be a really shitty decision, even if they rewrite it to make it work better.
>>284644603
>>284644727
Both happen after the first stage.
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>>284644922

They already confirmed to move Sandman's part, so...
Problem is, they still would have to adapt 360 pages in just 47 minutes...
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>>284644603
>>284644727
Mr Robinson and Boom Boom Family was 2nd stage dude. First stage was entirely about horse race
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Will normalfags be confused as to why there’s a new jojo universe?
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>>284643594
I've already seen the ending in the manga
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>>284639862
>still trusting DP

They are the incompetent clowns who managed to turn one of the most iconic cover arts not just in JoJo, but in shonen manga as a whole, into this tasteless garbage
Fine, I can accept that it won’t surpass the manga.
But being worse than PS3 game graphics and even shitty mobile gacha SSR card art is straight-up insanity
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>>284644974
The director talked about restructuring the early chapters. It’s not exactly confirmed that the intro will be cut or moved out of the first episode, though I wouldn’t be surprised if it happens.
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never forget
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>>284645502
Back when I didn’t know much about JoJo, my entire knowledge of the series was basically limited to Jotaro, DIO, and this one cover art featuring them. Because of that, I mistakenly thought the two of them, despite being enemies, had some kind of yaoi-coded, mutually affectionate relationship.
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>>284645929
Part 4 got exposed hardest by the story time
>Josuke is barely an MC during the first half
>the discovery of the serial killer is by Rohan and fucking Koichi
>heart of gold theme is BS
>non Kira chapters are a mixed bag
>Reimi’s goodbye is so unearned and forced considering she didn’t even interact with the main protagonist let alone the entire cast minus Koichi and Rohan
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>>284646129
part 4 lost and part 6 won
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>>284646129
I still think JoJo should have ended with Part 4.
I don’t hate Parts 5, 6, or 7, but even now I can’t shake the sense of discomfort about them being part of the JoJo series. From a main-story perspective, they feel fundamentally superfluous.
You could probably say something similar about Part 4 as well, but at least that one works naturally if you view it as an epilogue to Part 3, and its ending felt appropriate as a conclusion to the series.
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>>284646129
BtD still lived up to the hype and is one of JoJo’s peaks. It’s just funny that Josuke wasn’t present at all for it.
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>>284646558
No offense but I disagree with just about everything you are saying.
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>>284634574
This 'post' is 'underrated'
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>>284646669
Agreed
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What was your favorite and least favorite part of the storytime? I thought Farnsworth was funny at first but then people just kept spamming it as a buzzword, there was also too much part shitflinging. Part 5 fags were too uppity.
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>>284639862
Horses are really hard and expensive to animate. I remember an interview with a David Production staff where he basically said that unless they got infinite money, they could never do Part 6 justice. It's a combination of Part 6 being extraordinarily long, like multiple 50 episode anime unless massive cuts are made, as well as having a intense focus on horses.

It may be easier now with AI to have it animate horses and thus loosen the workload a bit, but have you asked Sora to animate a horse? It doesn't know what the fuck to do to make it not look choppy and strange, either.
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>>284646788
The horses looked fine in AoT
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>>284646788
>horses are hard to animate which is why all the scenes without horses in the trailer look even worse
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>>284646864
SBR has way more horses
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>>284646788
>part 6
*7, fuck.
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>>284644922
>>284644996
Eh, I still want Mrs. Robinson to get cut entirely. Fuck that nigga.
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>>284646703
The part in the Paper Moon King fight where Yasuho got repeatedly molested by every single person she ran into. I was crying laughing. Truly, everyone in Morioh has a Golden Heart.
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>>284646788
It's also their insistence to not split rollout into weekly cours and to hire more people to work on the damn thing. I wouldn't mind weekly 13 episode cours with 3 month breaks between them while they hire more people to work on the show itself.
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>>284646896
They focused on the horses
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>>284647210
Okay but they would need 50-100 episodes of horses, and they are still not cheap or easy to animate.

AoT has a way bigger budget than Jojo, as well.
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>>284646558
In terms of plot alone, Part 6 is actually my favorite, but to be honest, I wish I had seen it as Araki's brand new series rather than as JoJo.
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Fire is difficult to animate which is why Fire Force S1 was a total shitshow with schizophrenic editing and no background art. It's never DavidPro's fault please believe please you have to believe me.
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>>284646703
I missed 1-3, 90% of DiU, the last few volumes of SBR, and all of Jojolion, but:
>Killer Queen hating everything about being Kira's Stand
>keeping track of all the jobbers words
>Abbacchio being monstrously racist to Giorno
>reaction to the Seven Page MUDA
>people trying to understand the absolute clusterfuck that was Part 5's ending
>Planet Waves where everyone realized Jolyne stole 90% of all Joestar KAKUGO
>the entire third act of Stone Ocean being an insane clusterfuck
>the last volume getting five threads
>that one anon keeping count of all the SBR emojis
>that anon who kept making edits of shit people said
>relentless cunnyposting about Lucy
These were the best of times.
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>>284629976
I mean if Dungeon Meshi managed to get a weekly schedule then surely Studio David can ask the same.
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>>284647063
This is, in fact, how they should do it as well. I feel part 6 neutered itself by releasing all at once when they could have phased the release. It would have generated publicity, created anime-onlys discussion all across the internet, and gave reviewers and influencers time to discuss and digest each individual episode.

Netflix doesn't seem to realize that most of their shows that they dump as massive 10-20 episode seasons end up being tremendous failures that never get full traction because binge watching isn't something that you can do with an episodic series with a story. It's great for something like The Office, terrible for something like Jojo. Part 6 and how little traction it gained should have been this wake-up call but Netflix is ran by retards.
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>>284647322
You are mad
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>>284647322
>Fire is difficult to animate
Fire can be done with CG. You can't CG a horse and make it look good lest you get the Berserk anime. Please take your medicine.
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>>284646788
Interviews like this usually feel like they’re exaggerating how hard things were for the animation studio, so I don’t really find them very trustworthy.
I recently read imterview claiming that the Kimetsu no Yaiba movie required insane amounts of computer rendering just to recreate the Infinity Castle visuals, and that it would have taken over five years to make under normal circumstances, but honestly, I’m pretty skeptical about how much of that is actually true.
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Wheelchairs are difficult to animate so we had to remove the background entirely and make it look like a low budget anime from 2013.
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Oh I get it, he's schizophrenic and is going to start hallucinating that wheels and chairs are as easy to animate as an animal with two opposing joints and four legs that don't move in tandem so each limb has to be animated individually.

cool cool, let's hear it for cars, trains, and airplanes next.
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You see, cars, trains and planes all have a lot more horsepower than a single horse, so the difficulty of animating one car, for example, is equal to animating multiple horses at once.
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>>284644275
>Stone Free
>aka watered down Sticky Fingers
>creative
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>>284626360
Reminder that isn't the Spin (the technique) that does this stuff, but merely the act of things spinning. Araki seems to think that spinning is some mystical property that can perform miracles. All the Spin itself does is make things spin in accordance with the Golden Ratio.
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Honestly, I like the Stands from Part 3 the most.
Because the rules weren’t fully nailed down yet, they felt almost like magic, but that actually gave them a more organic sense of realism.
From around the latter half of Part 4 onward, Stand abilities became far too rigid and rule-bound, overly systematic, so much so that they started to feel less like superpowers wielded by living humans and more like programmed machines.
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>>284647528
It could be exaggerated, but he's 100% spot on that a Horse is not an animal you want to dedicate a long-standing series to animate.

Someone used AoT as an example earlier, that was like four episodes. Some of them not exactly being very high-quality episodes.
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>>284647887
Gold experience works like magic
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>>284647887
That's a big part of why I did not like Jojolion. Most of the stands were long range automatic stands, so they where rigid, rule-bound, and systematic as a rule (except for WoU and Paisley Park which can do anything lmao)
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>>284645502
It always bothered me that Dio's hand in the original art is yellow
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>>284647887
Part 3 felt the most grounded. Araki couldn't just make a stand that was "IT CONTROLS THE CONCEPT OF PURSUIT TO MANIPULATE CALAMITY" because he had to make it fit into the Tarot theme as well as make it where Jotaro's relatively simple stand could defeat it.
Having a baseline and limitation resulted in having to be more creative with them instead of simply writing that one stand could do Aaaaaaaanything and it had one very specific weakness the readers couldn't have known about because it's equally alien logic. Early stands and stand fights felt like two people trying to solve a mystery instead of Araki quoting encyclopedias verbatim as scientific reasons for why a leaf can create a leaf hivemind and use magic
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>>284647887
psychic powers are literally magic regardless of what pretentious scifi fans from the 60's said about 'psionics being plausible'
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>>284647980
>>284648076
I like that we both jumped straight to Jojolion stands as examples of unfun superpowered bullshit, lmao
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>>284647997
I think Araki couldn't decide back then if he wanted Dio to have gloves or not
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for me, it was pixel art anon
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Also on that note can we all agree Nut King Call fucking sucks as a stand and it's awful powers get copied for a different character
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>>284648163
Okay that interlacing is SOVL
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>>284648163
Is it racist if I don't like jojolands because the Jojo/jobro aren't white?
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>>284648163
the storytime's heroest hero
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>>284648110
Psychic powers are magic, but even magic has rules and limitations in fiction. Stands started as something that had unique properties to the person that was using them to just being whatever the fact Araki was able to find by opening a random English dictionary and throwing a dart at a word.

It's not a coincidence that Part 6 has some boring stands that change the definitions of words while Part 7 has some of the best stands in the series. Part 7 had to use the Body to create stands and influence stand users. It created a framework in which the magic bullshit had to operate inside of, even if the Spin is even more ridiculous as a concept than if they could all just cast Magic. Then Part 8 comes along and I don't know anyone that likes Part 8s stands.
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>>284647704
Bruno would've JOBBED to C-MOON.
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>>284647887
ZA WARUDO was too good.
>The visuals when the ability activates are stylish as hell.
>The power itself is simple and instantly understandable.
>Yet it’s completely, hopelessly overpowered.
>And it actually became a worldwide meme.
A power like this will probably never be created again in fiction.
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>>284648287
>p3 half jap
>p4 half jap
>p5 half jap
>p6 mystery meat minimum 25% jap
>p8 67% jap
>p9 5% jap + tan
Racism is a serious lifestyle choice not just a gimmick
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How do you guys feel about Part 7's ending? It's been a long time since I read it, but I remember it being a very unsatisfying conclusion.
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What is the whole first stage thing is about because is the anime weekly
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>>284648325
Bruno would have considered C-MOON mid because he was clever enough to see its limitations and work around it. People forget that part of the reason Part 5 kicks ass isn't just because the stands are cool, but because the people using the stands are all competent goofballs who are the best at exploiting what their stands can do. All of the assassins are the best at using their stands, all of Squadra was the best at using their stands minus Giorno but only because he just started using it for combat.
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>>284648431
First netflix show?
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>>284645502
part 3 got a fairly high production value adaptation but only for the shittiest most villian of the week arcs then we got slop for dio's world and i'll be perpetually mad over it
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>>284648471
No and what is the first stage thing about
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>>284648400
All of those look no different from white characters like Joseph or Dio
Dragona is female sandman
I'm just making observations on the art style
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>>284642286
this anon is the only person who actually understands the franchise
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>>284648307
>part 7 has some of the best stands in the series
This only applies to d4c and Tusk. SBR had poor man’s KQ and poor man’s stone free/doggystyle
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>>284648307
>even magic has rules and limitations in fiction
not really. unless you're excluding the vast majority of fiction ever made, the only 'rules' are 'more impressive feats of magic require more magic' and 'magic can't be used to skip the rest of the story'
even amongst the most famous examples in the english canon, there's nothing. What are the rules of propsero's magic in The Tempest? What are the rules of merlin's magic in the King Arthur Cycle? What are the rules of Aslan's magic in Narnia? What are the rules of Gandalf's magic in Lord of the Rings? What are the rules of magic in Varny the Vampire?
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>>284648410
I like the lead-up to it and the storytelling. The switched perspective where the Jojo is actually the superpowered monster with the god-like abilities, and the story is being told through the antagonist who has one superpower that isn't anywhere near as good, but he has to leverage it through his cunning to defeat him, is not just a great subversion of the usual final battle, but it also goes to showcase just how strong Johnny has become throughout the course of the story.

The scene where Tusk is rapidly approaching Dio through the grates of the bridge while his horse rears up is going to be one of my most anticipated scenes of this new show. Same with the building being bisected with the cut ending just before Dio's head.
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>>284648600
>>284648410
Oh but the ENDING itself does feel like a cop-out, but it's also kind of the only ending he could do if he wanted to make Part 8. But then he makes Part 8 and undoes Part 7s ending which makes me wonder what the fucking point was.
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>>284648289
>me
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>>284648076
no part 3 stands were really forgettable for the most part, the good ones were the ones that did pull some stupid bullshit like time stopping or eating itself to travel into an unknown dimension, nobody is spending time out of their day thinking about yellow temperance
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>>284643330
based david productions
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>>284648287
well its judging something based on racial features so yeah i'd say so
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>>284648431
The first stage is the first segment of the race spanning from chapter 5 to chapter 12.
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>>284648566
Half of these rely on magic chanting rules/having arcane knowledge rules. Sure, you can do it, but it requires knowledge that no ordinary mortal could acquire.

Meanwhile Stone human that has magic doctor following him that controls calamity would be a pretty terrible antagonist in any english canon, but also a boring one if his only motivation is he wanted to make lots of money.
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>>284648756
>his only motivation is he wanted to make lots of money
jews....
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>>284645502
They emphasized his lip too much
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Are they actually animating the horses? This is getting my hopes up
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>>284648775
STONE jews
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>>284648811
They're CG most of the time, but with shaders imitating 2D.
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>>284648873
Gross if true.
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>>284648811
see >>284626285



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