Do people hate this character due to the author purposely making him different from the traditional shounen protagonist?
Yes. It's the same reason people hate Eren and Denji too
>Denji>anywhere near Cuckren and Cucku
>>284674794I dislike Eren because he kept just not having a personality beyond his one thing, until he suddenly did and it was all tied up in the contradictory mess of an ending and his new characterization was more for the plot (which wasn't a good plot anymore) than as a character I dislike Denji because he doesn't learn from his mistakes and it grows frustrating to read
>>284674729He is the average shonen mc with op superpowers, loser to superhero, power of friendship and ugly clothes. People hate him because he is a loser without development, 0 motivation, whiny kid, badly written mc and a cuck
>Series is CONSTANTLY trying to tell you that there is more to a hero than recognition and hitting things.>The full page spread of the old lady holding the kid who would've been Shiggy 2.0 because Hori likely thought people still wouldn't get the message of the series unless shoved into your face as well as how society is actually changing for the better given how people finally realized to actually do things instead of standing around waiting for traditional heroes to do things.>Burgers still don't get the message afterwards.Ironic that their behavior and mentality is strikingly similar to Bakugo at the start of the series......
>>284674729>different from the traditional shounen protagonisthe's the poster boy of shounen protags which is the problem because it doesn't fit the meta-narrative of BNHA
>>284675170>People hate him because he is a loser without development, >0 motivationThe whole fucking point of his arc and the series in general was learning what makes a true hero is helping people even if it's something westerners look down upon like teaching at the superhero equivalent to Harvard.>cuckMan, you didn't read the story, did you?
>>284675241>says he is jealous of his hero friends>sucks as a teacher>immediately jumps into the hero profession again once he gets handed a powersuitbut nooo, being a teacher is just as fulfilling!>>284674729"different" what a nice, not at all dishonest, way to summarize the reasons why people dislike him.
>>284674729He’s only different in the fact that he’s lazy, entitled and a crybaby bitch to top it off. Just a very unlikable MC in recent shonen history
>>284675320>>says he is jealous of his hero friends>>sucks as a teacherHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You didn't read the story either, did you?>immediately jumps into the hero profession again once he gets handed a powersuitwhiles still remaining a teacher. And do you think he would tell his friends to eat shit after all their hard work?
Man, none of you guys understood the character at all
deku barely developed 400 chapters later
Nobody cares
>>284674729he's the perfect representation of the average zoomer
>>284675467Remember at the start when as a little kid he learned he didn't have a quirk and proceeded to cry? But when he lost OFA he proudly chose to teach at UA so he can use his experience to help others even without it?I know the series doesn't end with him being a demigod while Ochaco is sucking his dick but pay attention.
>>284675300>The whole fucking point of his arc and the series in general was learning what makes a true hero is helping people even if it's something westerners look down upon like teaching at the superhero equivalent to Harvard.Thats a pretty shallow point that doesn't even get any attention for most of the series.How does Deku's emo phase contribute to this? How do arcs with undeveloped secondary characters contribute to this? In the end, Deku spends 8 YEARS doing nothing, depending on his friends to do anything. This guy learned NOTHING, always relying on the help of others and gifted powers, Deku is practically your average self-insert protagonist. In the epilogue, he tries a little, but he's still a lazy bum who won't exercise or use his hero connections. He's a poorly written and underdeveloped character; he needs gifted powers to act like a hero, and he never learns anything. Reducing the entire series to "heroes are those who help others" is too lazy and basic, although the series doesn't really try to do much more than that.>cuckJust the usual joke. Anyways reducing the entire Ochako plot point to a Toga's arc attempt is the main reason people say that
>>284675900>How does Deku's emo phase contribute to this?You know when a story has that one part where everything has gone to shit and the hero becomes a mopey piece of shit until motivated? That's what that arc was.>How do arcs with undeveloped secondary characters contribute to this?Pretty much everyone got their chance to shine with even a supporting character like Jiro managing to lay a significant blow to AFO's eyeless Freddy Krueger-y stage. Hell the first two classmates who come to Deku's aid in the final arc are the ones who did literally nothing up until then (Sero and the sugar guy).>he's still a lazy bum who won't exercise or use his hero connections. He's a poorly written and underdeveloped character; he needs gifted powers to act like a hero, and he never learns anything.-Soldier gets his leg blown off when killing a major terrorist leader.-Proceeds to become a drill instructor at the military academy he was trained at so he can use his experience and knowledge in a productive way.-Years later his friends have all chipped in to make him an artificial leg so he can do stuff with them.Not that hard
>>284675241>"this is the story of how i became the greatest hero">doesnt become the greatest heroIts that simple. It's a dogshit ending for a dogshit series that had infinite potential. Making 10 threads in the catalog about this forgotten shit wont change that.
>>284676401>doesnt become the greatest heroI dunno, stopping a world-ending threat and in-turn sacrificing your meal ticket to power and fame, as well as encouraging society to actually get off their asses and help instead of waiting for someone else, sure themes "greatest hero" material to me.......
>>284676198>You know when a story has that one part where everything has gone to shit and the hero becomes a mopey piece of shit until motivated? That's what that arc was.I understand, but it's lazy and a cheap way to add drama. Deku didn't develop in that arc, it felt like a forced transition. It did help Bakugo slightly, though, even though we already know he doesn't progress much>Pretty much everyone got their chance to shine with even a supporting character like Jiro managing to lay a significant blow to AFO's eyeless Freddy Krueger-y stage. Hell the first two classmates who come to Deku's aid in the final arc are the ones who did literally nothing up until then (Sero and the sugar guy).My point boils down to the fact that there are too many characters. It's something that sells, but from a story perspective, it forces many to be left behind. For example, the arc where Gang Orca is introduced, or everything surrounding class B. Typical long-running shounen problem.>-Soldier gets his leg blown off when killing a major terrorist leader.>-Proceeds to become a drill instructor at the military academy he was trained at so he can use his experience and knowledge in a productive way.>-Years later his friends have all chipped in to make him an artificial leg so he can do stuff with them.>Not that hardWhat surprises me is that it took 8 years. Almost the entire story happens in about one year, and then for 8 years apparently nothing happens. Deku received gifted powers, and as a character, he's never really fully developed because he never really thinks much more deeply about himself. I think it's undeniable that he's a simple character, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it doesn't always work in his favor. The example you mentioned is classic and simple, and I think that's the general problem with bnha: it's something big, but it boils down to being quite basic.
>nothing canon from this shit series is satisfying or good>only fanart/fanfiction mattersMostly what the fandom revolves around
>>284676469>stopping a world-ending threat and in-turn sacrificing your meal ticket to power and fameAll-Might and Bakugo did the same>as well as encouraging society to actually get off their asses and help instead of waiting for someone elseThis never happens, just wishful thinking believing Deku had anything to do with that
>>284676594>All-Might and Bakugo did the sameBut Deku did the killing blow on AFO's soul that was controlling the quirk-stuffed, super-powered anthichrist>>284676594>This never happens, just wishful thinking believing Deku had anything to do with thatThen who else was the cause of it? Granted it was mostly a team effort but Deku did finish the job himself (Unless you count OFA and it's former users slowly dying with Deku destroying AFO's soul as it's final usage).
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>>284674729>Do people hate this characterthe reaction comes from dragonball fags who are old and retarded. Deku is a high test chad.>>284674794>Yes. It's the same reason people hate Erentiny little detail that is not mentioned enough: that panel is bait. a lot of tourists were memed into believing it was eren post rumbling but it's before.
>>284674729Deku just doesn't feel special outside of his given powers. If someone else ran towards that sludge monster that day, he would've been a nobody.
>>284674729No we hate the character due to the author making him BAD
>>284675241>Sacrificed everything This was retarded the last time you posted it, it's retarded now. Being a hero is a sacrifice. Not being a hero and living a normal life is, well a normal, life. A complete and absolute misunderstanding of the super hero genre.
There goes my hero
>>284679622we know, jiro
>>284678595Filoni does not understand Star Wars at all. The damage he's done is on par with the sequel shits.
>>284675241I feel like something may have been lost in translation here but if Hori wanted to really show that there is more to being a hero than hitting things Deku should have just served as a strategist without any powers the entire series. Him not being able to be a hero without a power that lets him hit things or a suit that lets him hit things strongly contradicts that.
>>284679579>Being a hero is a sacrifice.Yet the series is constantly telling you there is more to being a hero than doing something that could cause you to get killed.Hell Peter Parker was just a random teenager who randomly got bit by a random radioactive spider while at least Deku chose to be a hero and learned what a hero actually is.
>>284679881This isn't Dispatch. Actually likeable Captain Marvel wasn't going to randomly ask him if he can help with the capeshit equivalent to community service.
>>284674794I love Denji and Eren but Deku is genuinely so pathetic as a protagonist that the general public themselves are more interested in any other character than the protagonist. Most people that do like Deku are either self inserters, fujos or have notoriously shit taste.
>>284674729I found the execution of AfO unsatisfying. I found the utilization of the cast unsatisfying especially in the epilogue. I found several of Deku’s character arcs unsatisfying. I think the ending would have been better if Deku leaned all the way into just teaching or all the way into being an active hero. Better yet, it should have shown him still being a hero without powers or a suit by taking out a street thug that was harassing one of his students. That would have actually capitalized on the initial premise. Also for fucks sake pair off the characters in the end. I don’t even care how. Make crack ships if you want. It’s free catharsis.
>>284680162>a suit by taking out a street thug that was harassing one of his students.The whole point of 430 and the "final" episode was showing that there's more to being a hero than beating people up like helping them in different ways (Notice the closing quote is Deku saying something along the lines of "we will continue to hold out our arms for those who need help"?).Granted 431 shows them stopping a robber but that's too show that even if things are peaceful at the moment, violent assholes will always be around and heroes are needed to stop them when others are too weak (Not to mention when you have a superhero society without crime, it usually causes a civil war or facism).
MHA is the japanese understanding of western heroism so that's why it's so dogshit. Tiger and Bunny is better in spades and even did the abusive famous father better.
>>284674729Different>Doesn't show sexual interest>Has no opinion on stuff>Has no malice>Acts according to the plot, and the plot doesn't move because of him>Doesn't know how to use his power in interesting ways. Acts within the plot>Doesn't show any sense of style. The style comes from what the author thinks is cool, not from what the character's background or behavior would bring to it.>acts very “logical” like most shonen characters>cries on cueDefinitely like no other shonen character.
>>284674729Is it just me or i found this character in particular felt uncannily feminime?, like you can add eyelashes to him and the series would progress just as fine
>>284680423continueAnd there's a lot more. Shonen characters are barely human; they're archetypes and, like, watered-down versions of those archetypes. I think learning the language helps you pick up some of the social references. But it's not enough to turn a bland character into a real character.
why make him become a teacher when he doesn't even have 3 full years of hero work under his belt? if hori wanted an ending where Deku helped people without his powers, then he should have had deku traveling the country with Uraraka doing that quirk counselor thing.
>>284676401He killed the two of the strongest villains in history in one punch and you’re still being delusional about this?
>>284680486Killing is unheroic.
I just think it's funny how Deku essentially peaked in his first year of highschool. The timeline was very bad for MHA and I think 1A should've at least had a field trip at deternat or something before MVA.
>>284679704Jiro and Kaminari are in a loving relationship and only lied about not dating in the last chapter, trust me
>>284680511This is why Torino said killing is another form of saving and that’s exactly what Deku did
>>284674729>Could be a story about hard work and determination paying off>Is given the strongest superpower in chapter 1Wasted potential
There hasn’t been a single shonen mc I liked in years. Actually I don’t like a single shonen mc.
>>284674729I find it hilariously ironic that Deku in the final chapter was what Deku was supposed to be at the start of a story, a genius kid with no super powers who decided to fuck the rules, and built his own supersuit. Except, instead of him saving up and getting it himself it was handed to him.Even worse is that Horikoshi created a world where him having a supersuit could have justified.
>>284674729>become fire punch
>>284678595Quoting the guy who was involved in nu-Star Wars defeats your argument anon.
It's literally just a less faggier version of Tsuna.
>>284674729deku-chan is Bakugo's cumslut
Loser crybaby who needs everything literally handed to him .Same with that bitch shiggy
>>284680317>Tiger and Bunny is better in spades and even did the abusive famous father better.Agreed.
>>284681813>>284680684They're all either loser crybabies (Deku) or literal retards with huge appetites (Goku).
>>284682092Now you understand why everyone prefers the rivals, even the authors.
>>284675696Well done, sweetheart. Spoken like a true limpdick Decvck stan. And you wonder why everyone prefers the bully
>>284680582He put down a broken kid and a lonely, rabid coot.
>>284680317There's Japanese superhero shows out there that also had better takes on being a hero. I genuinely doubt Hori has actually read a superhero comic if his understanding of western superheroes is this shallow and shit.
Ironically, Deku DID get the better end of the deal than Simon IE All his friends and his mentor are still alive, got a productive job instead of being a hermit, gets to do more stuff with his still alive friends and was even congratulated by said still-alive mentor.
>>284684812Western superheroes aren't shallow and shit?You do realize most Marvel superheroes are cunts now right?
Reminder that officially Deku ended up making pizza at minimum wage.
