How would a chad have handled this situation?
>>284735401
>>284735401By rushing over to her toilet, jacking off while smelling it to get in the mood then>>284735435
>>284735435>>284735814but that's not being considerate of ayanami's feelings...
>>284737163Not putting on the glasses first would make more sense, or taking them off when she appeared.
>>284735401Lead her to the bed, set her on her hands and knees, whip out my dick, and fuck her until her eyes roll to the back of her head
>nice tits they look like my moms
>>284739385lol
>>284735401"Pardon me, milady, I'll return once you've dressed."
>>284735401Turn 360 degrees and walk away.
>>284740776um...bro...
>>284740776
>>284735401They should have been together in the end...
>>284735401apologize, leave the room and give her time to get changed
>>284735401sigmund freud was right men want gfs like their moms
>>284735401go take a bath and walk out the same way with my rock hard dick out in the open
>>284735401I would tell her she is best girl, and that Asuka is a whore.I won't talk to anyone who doesn't acknowledge these two facts first.
>>284745565Ayanami is my favorite anime girl, but I want a 3 some with her and Asuka. The idea of their nipples touching while Shinji watches and goes uncontrollable and tries to assault them..
>>284735401Idk, Rei is kind of awkward and autistic as a person. Any advances from Chad would’ve probably resulted in him getting ignored or slapped.
>>2847456506 foot 4 chad can pin her down shes barely 5 feet tall and must weigh 80 something lbs
>>284739452>He sees her naked>she then sees him nakedkino...
>>284735401Declare her best girl.
>>284745687>shes barely 5 feet tallNot even that, actually
>>284735401had a similar situation happen when I was 15 and something licked in my brain and I just kind of acted like I was around one of my bros. Nothing happened, but I guess that made her comfortable around me and 2 weeks later we were fucking on a trampoline.
>>284746240That's good.Waifus over 5 feet don't exist to me.
>>284735435So why do retards act like it a bad thing if she likes it?
>>284735435I don't think that's what chads do.
>>284735401I want to fuck her armpit
>>284749995Lol...
>>284737163Ayanami is a godless homunculus animated by perverted science. She doesn't get to have feelings
>>284748695Have you ever read any TL manga?
>>284752055She does, chud.
>>284735401>"Not Mr. Livingstone, i presume?"
>>284745647Shinji would run away the moment they start touching each other.
>>284753286Rebuild Shinji would not run away
>>284753477Yeah, because ''Rebuild Shinji'' isn't the real Shinji. He's an Rebuild version of the original. With missing parts of the original and new ones added.
>>284755531He's the real Shinji
>>284756140Elaborate.
>>284756549Rebuild is in essence Kaoru giving Shinji a happy ending. Thus he is the real Shinji
>>284745565>>284745647Seriously, what makes so many people prfer Rei over Asuka? When I watched Eva I thought Asuka was the best character without even questioning it; her backstory and just everything about her is just so well made. She feels like the most humam character in the entire show.
>>284758957Someone post the "Asuka is an NPC" image.
>>284758957I prefer Misato.
>>284759026You mean this one? The one that has to pretend the traumatized girl with abandonment issues that has learnt that the only way she can make a place for herself is by standing out and doing whatever it takes so that others consider her useful and want to keep her around (therefore piloting the eva)? Rei has to autistically analyze things because that's the only way she can get a grasp on her own personhood. She follows other peoples orders not due to some trauma, but rather just because that's her default state. Even Shinji had a more human reason to go along with what others around him want. I don't even dislike her (she's a great character), but I just don't get why she's so popular when she's intentionally made to be this "unnatural" in her thinking.>>284759349Before I rewatched Eva and only had my vague memories from a decade ago to go by I thought I'd end up liking her a lot more than I did. I liked her attitude for much of the show, but found her issues even harder to relate with than Rei's. She's awesome as a character, but nothing beats the way Asuka's story can tug at my heart strings and just how likeable she is. How can one not root for her?
>>284759958*and want to keep her around is just an instinct driven NPC, rather than a flawed person whose messed up childhood made her think acting like this is reasonable.
>>284735401According to noted Evangelion scholar Mogudan, rape.
>>284735401>deliver package>leave>go back to interacting with normal girls/women, probably crack some jokes about it>bonus: a sympathetic chad move would be inviting her to go with you when you leave so she can interact with normal people too>>284758957rei is a blank slate, and if you're a brainlet she just seems submissive and quirky>>284759958claiming rei's behavior is 'not due to some trauma' is a hot take. the rei we get to know, the one who dies, is as traumatized as asuka is, just in a completely opposite direction.the two best girls get compared all the time because they're (unintentionally?) trauma-foils. rei is driven by a complete lack of human connection (and a need to find/make her own meaning/history), and asuka is driven by an overabundance of human connection (and a need to elevate or isolate herself from this overbearing inheritance of emotional history).all the characters in eva are interesting and humanized, but asuka/rei and shinji/misato are (again, unintentionally?) paired foils. misato is the closest to a chad we get in the show, but she's just as inept as incel shinji at solving problems a well balanced, healthy human being could solve without breaking a sweat. "what matters to you""what are you going to do about it"end of eva might be a momentous culmination of avant garde animation and storytelling, but the original eva anime provided a far better and more fitting ending. in the same way some people hate on the fma ending with ed losing his alchemy but gaining a better understand of life (and a really fucking nice life too, with a sweet girl and an awesome house and a chill brother), those same people seem to hate on the eva anime ending where shinji doesn't succeed through some le epic fight (that he always hated), but rather through answering simple questions and breaking a cycle that traps the other central characters (except maybe the rei who dies; i think her sacrifice gave her a sense of supreme meaning).
>>284760803>claiming rei's behavior is 'not due to some trauma' is a hot takeYes, that was very poorly worded. I actually agree that all main characters in the show are very human, but Rei is kind of a "blank-slate" in that this part of her is what she is meant to develop out of. Her choosing Shinji over Ikari is when she fully becomes "human" for me. Her behaviour comes from a lack of connection, like you said, but this is also most of what we see of her in the series and most Reifags I see seem to love this Rei so much, which is what I mean by her this being her default (yes, I know that's not what I wrote, but still). No Asukafag likes Asuka so they can continue to see her suffer, but the way a lot of people that like Rei act it seems like they do like her exactly because of her submissive state during the vast majority of the series. If Rei had grown out of her issues very fast and chosen neither Shinji, nor Ikari a ton of her fans wouldn't like her. I don't think anyone that likes Asuka would have a problem with her learning to grow out of her trauma as fast as possible, if that makes any sense.
>>284761292Sorry, saying "she becomes fully human" is also giving off the wrong impression. I mean, that's when she becomes a fully independent human being. If she had chosen to go her own way immediately and not fallen in love with Shinji I wouldn't have liked her any less, but such a character wouldn't be as popular with most Reifags, I believe.That's why I don't get why she's so popular. I could empathize with a lotof whatshe's goi g through, but she's not the typeof character that anyo e should think of as a "waifu", even morse so than anyo eelse in the series. A Rei that has grown out of her issues would be an entirely different character (as seen in that school world we see at the end of the show). A ton of Asuka's behavioral patterns could remain even if she ever overcome her issues.
>>284761618*That's why I don't get why she's so popular. I could empathize with a lot of what she's going through, but she's not the type of character that anyone should think of as a "waifu", even morse so than anyone else in the series.
>>284758957Anno's lame insistence that screaming a bunch and being obnoxious makes her "strong"
>>284762255>Anno's lame insistence that screaming a bunch and being obnoxious makes her "strong"She isn't strong though. That's the point. It's all an act because she's desperate not to show that she cares about the opnions of others and be vulnerable by potentially being rejected. She also wants to be paid attention to and not seem like a doll. The only one thinking her behaviour makes her strong is Asuka herself.
rei should have tried to breastfeed shinji at least once
>>284763888Wasted digits
>>284765800cope about it
>>284759958>waifus
>>284768578i have 7 waifus
>>284758957Rei is just better. I could identify with her existentialist issues more than Asuka being a loser.I mean Rei is God, Asuka is detritus. I choose Rei.
>>284759958Point of that image is to show Rei is more present and conscious of her choices. Its not being autistic, its not being a base animal.People who like Asuka over Rei are fucked in the head.
>>284761618Rei was always human. People who talk about Rei as if that was ever her issue are brainlets and their fathers should have pulled out.
>>284771080>I mean Rei is God>Asuka is detritusRei is more of a servant than God itself. She was created as a tool and a servant. She's a slave to who she is. Her meaning.I think the symbology of Rei and Asuka in Shinji's life is a clear ''Angel/devil on your shoulder'' metaphor. You can tell by the impact that is left of Shinji after each interaction with the girls and how the girls interact with him. I mean white=angelic red=devilish blue=calm red=chaotic symbology is clearly here.
>>284735401oh hey
>>284762255Did you notice how in her very first combat encounter in unit 02, she brought shinji into the entry plug with her?That's not because she was showing off, it's because she was scared.
>>284735401By giving her privacy.
>>284773559>That's not because she was showing off, it's because she was scared.First of all Asuka had no saying in the matter because she was just the pilot and the big decisions were done by the adults. Second, Shinji was also a pilot and the safest place for him was the EVA Unit 02 because they didn't bring Unit 01 with them for him to pilot.
>>284735401Killed her for being a nephilim abomination
>>284771080Do you really need to identify with her to care about her at all? I found her struggles to be tragic enough without needing to identify with everything she has gone through. Also calling her a loser is a strange way to put it. She didn't live her entire life being used as a tool by a complete scumbag, just to have a clone take her place and continue her issues for her.
>>284775703>She didn't live her entire life being used as a tool by a complete scumbag,But she was a tool. And when she broke she was discarded by NERV. Just because she saw herself more than her actual worth to NERV, didn't change their approach to her.
>>284772321>shit interpretationRei ia Lilith, progenitor of man, end of man. No interpretation needed.Created as Jesus was created. >>284772391
>>284775963>Created as Jesus was created.But that's what makes her more like an Angel than God. Being created means that there is a higher power than the created.
>>284775703Asuka was literally a tool her entire life.Rei was created by accident. A sudden ace for Gendo once they understood what they had begat. Rei goes off script, Asuka does not. Asuka is indeed a loser with a big L. Rei is out of Asukas league.
>>284776053>Rei was created by accident.I highly doubt it.
>>284776039Dumbass. Rei existed before as Lilith. Rei is a human incarnation of Lilith, as close to God and divine you get in Eva for man.This is why Gendo needs Rei but not vice versa. He has caught a divine spark in a bottle but he will lose the second he lets it out.
>>284776083She was. Rei is the result of trying to bring Yui back from EVA01.They could not get her body back. So they made a replicant and tried to get Yuis soul out. But Yui refused that.Also the chamber of guf was empty. But there was Lilith.... whose soul was inside the giant in terminal dogma.But the only soul that they could get was Liliths, and so Lilith becomes incarnate as Rei.An absurd but powerful situation for Gendo and Fuyutsuki, the one hope they suddenly had.
>>284776123>Rei existed before as LilithDid she? ''Rei'' was created by splicing Yui's remains with a piece of Lilith. She's half-Yui half-Lilith. A half- Angel half-human.>as close to God and divine you get in Eva for manLilith is female. If ''God'' in EVA goes by Traditional/Biblical interpretation and isn't Adam, but rather The Creator of Adam and Lilith then Lilith is below God.
>>284774487Nah, you're misremembering .nobody ordered them to do that. She was technically not supposed to get in her unit 02 at all, they snuck off and she forced shinji to come with her. Then when she's at the controls she's constantly unsure and angrily asking him for input.
>>284775912>>284776053Rei is a doll that learns to make her own decisions while Asuka is a traumatized kid that thinks she's making her own decisions while actually being used by the adults around her. Calling Asuka the tool here for being unable to just overcome her own personal trauma at 14 is retarded.
>>284768578sex with a bratty waifu
>>284762560NGE has layers not even Anno had control over.His "strong" Asuka is a weak doll that is known for her collapse and failure more than her wins. Her strength a lie everyone sees through.His "weak" yamato nadeshiko actually has hands and clapped Gendo, and turned out to be the strongest mentally and spiritually.
>>284776261You didnt get EVA.You jump to a conclusion for Rei, without basis.Asuka was groomed into being a pilot her whole life almost, her entire personality being built on it. She is unable to grow her own. Her trauma is factually the unavoidable result of NERV/GEHIRN adopting her into the EVA peogram.Rei wasnt made to be a pilot, and Rei is actually able to see herself as separate of the role she is given, in fact she expresses that she is limited by it. She is conscious about her situation from the start and has defined herself individually and personally, unlike Asuka who has fully internalized her puppet role as an EVA firing control system.
>>284776332>His "weak" yamato nadeshiko actually has hands and clapped Gendo, and turned out to be the strongest mentally and spiritually.This was the best part about her entire arc, but so many Reifags got attached to her because of her demure and obedient personality for much of the show and having her be revealed to have feelings for Shinji so early on in the show made it worse by letting a lot of people imagine her as their perfect gf (cares about nothing besides partner, is so socially inept she could never betray you because she's an even bigger autist than most of her fans, is completely obedient, etc.). The Rei that Reifags paint is only the end result of a lot of growth and struggle; that isn't how she is for the vast majority of the show and many (not necessarily you) of her fans got attached to her before that ever happened.Say what you will about Asuka, but she didn't need to change to be a character that people could appreciate. A messed up Asuka is still a great character, even if you hope she learns to overcome her issues. A Rei without any growth is hardly a complete person.
>>284776506>A Rei without any growth is hardly a complete person.Because she was specifically neglected by Anno in order to push Asuka.
>>284776230Yes she did. The highest tier of individual existence in EVA is the soul, which csn move out and into physical bodies. The basis of instrumentality and the animation of EVAs.Rei is simply the name given to Lilith as a human. Its why Rei longs to return to her actual body, which she does in the end.As far as divine hierarchy goes, EVA takes inspiration from kike mythos, it does not mirror it. There is no God in EVA, but there are many Gods in Lilith and Adam and perhaps more.Thats why I qualified it with Rei/Lilith being rhe closest thing to a God mankind has. Mankind was made, ended and reborn through Rei/Lilith.
>>284776543Rei being neglected is a myth. Reis growth, importance and depth is undeniable in NGE.She is in more episodes than Asuka, and having less lines is just Rei being in character.
>>284776418>unlike Asuka who has fully internalized her puppet role as an EVA firing control system.She doesn't realize that or think of herself that way. You act as if Asuka is some sort of inhumanly fucked up person when there are plenty of people like her that, due to trauma, learnt to get their entire self-worth from the one thing they got praise for as a kid. Shinji was going down the same path and yet you'd say both of them are more the puppet than the girl that lacked so much basic human socialization people that hardly knew her could gell she was in love with Shinji before herself. Rei isn't just a puppet, but the way she lacked so much basic socialization and had to autistically grow through introspection is extremely unusual and acting as if she's actually the normal one, unlike meat-doll Asuka that is apprently just a puppet for suffering from ordinary childhood trauma (in comparison to the mess that is Rei) is crazy. There is more to being a person other than going through the introspective growth Rei has. By your logic Shinji is just as much of a puppet considering how he was about to go down the same path had it not been for others making him understand he could choose differently (and he was much older than Asuka was back when she went down that path).
>>284776506This is pure cope and bullshit. Asuka is worse than Rei and was drastically less popular in the shows original run. Asuka didnt change because she was canonically unable to, Rei changes because she is above most others, she IS the ubermensch.If you change this about either, you nonlonger have Rei or Asuka, you have the very archetypes you project and summarily condemn. What a strawman or strawgirl.
>>284763888Freud would have something to say about this
>>284776574>There is no God in EVAFalse. >but there are many Gods in Lilith and Adam and perhaps more.>GodsIt's ''gods'' dumbass. God is is the one above all. And gods are lesser dieties.>Thats why I qualified it with Rei/Lilith being rhe closest thing to a God mankind hasThat doesn't make any sense. They clearly pointed out that ''God'' is the one who is sending the Angels against humanity. Which points towards Adam who is trying to take back Earth from the children of Lilith.
>>284774550She has divinity in her. There is no need for that. Rei is good.
>>284745687>>284746350Enjoy siring manlets, dumb cuck
>>284776706Asuka is a puppet because she was raised to be a puppet and was unable to find an identity for herself. She existed or broke depensing on fulfulling the role hwr puppet masrers had for her. Rei or Shinji does not have this problem. The problem is that Asukastans defensively glaze Asuka to cover her failures, like Asuka boasts to cover hers.Its the most toxic thing in EVA discourse because it inevitably leads to Asula waifufags dragging everything else down to make Asucka seem better.She isnt satan but she is an abject failure.Rei is a divine savior.Shinji falters but still helps others and carrries on, seeing rheblight in the end.Misato needs to be kept away from young boys but she still fought for the truth and personally saved both Asuka and Shinji various times.
>>284776808Provide citations that dont come from spinoffs. Ill wait.Besides, its all off point. God, Gods, the God, Rei is divine and Gods Messengers is purely part of NERV propaganda to cocer that they, not the Angels or Adam is the source of conflict.
>>284776709>Asuka didnt change because she was canonically unable to, Yeah, as expected from any normal girl her age in the same situation. A normal human cannot out-think themselves out of their own, life-long, mental shackles. I never wanted her to within the course of the show in the first place.>Rei changes because she is above most others, she IS the ubermensch.I agree that, in that way, she is superhuman. But that only adds to her inhumaness for me. Few normal humans could learn to cut themselves off from Gendo in that situation without someone in their lives directly intervening by taking her out of that environment and having her go through life-long therapy. By the way I like her growth within the show and am the last person that would prefer for her not to be that kind of "ubermensch" that could grow like that.Why do you act like I believe Rei is a bad character the way she is in the first place? I complained about most Reifags, never about her in general. I do think Asuka is a character most (including myself) can empathize more with. But none of the Eva protagonist are badly eritten imo. She's just harder to relate with.
>>284776917>Provide citations that dont come from spinoffs.I never once cited anything from spinoffs in our conversation.Were talking about pure NGE and EoE lore.>Gods Messengers is purely part of NERV propaganda to cocer that they, not the Angels or Adam is the source of conflict.Wait, what? So they want humanity to think that they are the source of conflict and not the Angels? How does that make sense?
>>284776851>she is an abject failureImagine blaming the 14 year old girl for not just out-thinking her trauma away. Why do you need her to be like Rei? Rei is fine as is, but if Asuka had just overcome her her issues the way Rei does it'd have ruined the character. What do I need to cover her from? Shinji was literally going down the same path; the show goes out of its way to contrast the two at the end and clearly illustrate where he will end up if he makes being an eva pilot his everything.
>>284776965What do you have against Reifags? Their opinions don't change Rei's character unless you think that they represent Rei Ayanami. They're fans.
>>284776965Normal humans can and do get themselves out of depressive or oppressive ruts.Its just that Rei does what Asucan't.I dont buy your BS. The whole bit about "oh no le rei fags like Rei because she is a good girl and liking good things is bad" has always been ridiculous. The same people who moan about people liking Rei being for demure and weak are the same that curse Rei's strength and embrace retarded moe spinoffs Rei.These literal eva NIGGERS want Rei to be a dumb waifu, and construct their argument atop this shit fantasy and project it onto the people who liked Rei. It is little more than a method to cope with Rei being more adored by the audience.Funny thing, its exactly what Asuka does.
>>284777033I'm pretty sure he isn't blaming her. Stating that she's a failure is making an observation of the character's state.
>>284777033She is not realShe is a cartoonAdmit Shinji and Rei are better and move on.
>>284777107The show admits it. Those who don't live in denial.
>>284777033I blame the literal psychos at SEELE for doing this to Asuka.Its just a statement of fact that Asuka is more of a puppet than anyone she accused of being one.Also Im tired of this overcharitable nonsense. Its like when Asuka does good, its her doing alone, but when she fails, it is never her fault. Fucking disgusting simp behavior.
>>284777178Her fans mimic her awful personality. For them it's like a medal to show off because Asuka's awful personality is a virtue to them.
>>284777046There are a ton of Reifags that project their own perfect waifu onto her. There exist no bad main character in eva. It's all a matter of personal preference. I do prefer Asuka to her though, in part because of how human she feels.>>284777081>Normal humans can and do get themselves out of depressive or oppressive ruts.You're delusional if you think any normal 14 year old could deal with that amount of trauma this easily. Therapy would become completely unecessary at that point. Why not just calmly think your issues away? Lol>same that curse Rei's strength and embrace retarded moe spinoffs Rei.I have already said that her growth is the best part about her. Why do you think that I hate that part of her? I just couldn't get as emotionally worked up about her as I did by Asuka's story.
>>284777266>Asuka's awful personality is a virtue to them.Why are you this bothered by a 14 year old girl's defense mechanism? Hell, even if she was just like this, there are plenty of actual girls that age that are like this. Most girls grow out of it eventually though. It's exactly because of how common this behaviour is that so many people wouldn't realize just how fucked she is.
Liking Asuka is Jewish. Similarly disliking Rei is also Jewish.Jews problematize the adoration of beauty, the ideal, because they cannot live up to those standards and feel threatened by it. Instead they fetishize the abject and the sick, the entartete kunst.While I believe there is value in both, the rejection of beauty is a real problem.Such people would kill their savior, or destrou beauty where it exists.
>>284777327Not him but it has bled into the fandom, and now is part of eva discourse through toxic asuka fans.
>>284777394>toxic asuka fansI'm too new to know this, but what does that even mean? People who like her childish show-off attitude and her inability to express her feelings normally?
>>284777271Those Reifags you speak of are but your own projection. In truth you embody the same thing but for Asuka yourself.Its the Asucuck defense mechanism for dealing with how people prefer Rei (objecively a stronger heroine) than the weaker female foil in Asuka. Instead of accepting the obvious truth, you make the audience the problem, rather than Asuka herself.
>>284777327>defense mechanismAgainst what? None of the children was ever outright trying to harm her in the show. She was doing most of the damage against others herself.
>>284777271Why so little faith in humanity? You refuse to believe in strenght and demand that everybody fails like Asuka.Its enough to let Rei have her victory and for Asuka have her failure. Dont hate on Rei because she is beautiful.
I believe in the good of man, and I believe in the salvation offered by and through Rei.>>284777466Truth.
>>284777466>Against what?Rejection and fear of not standing out and thus being potentially abandoned. Everything she does is a desperate attempt to gain worth in the eyes of those around her so they don't think of her as useless. She has learnt to believe that the best and almost only way to really do this is by becoming an amazing eva pilot, so when she loses that she thinks her life becomes completely meaningless and she's about to be discarded. She hates the adults around her for paying more attention to Rei and Shinji and when she becomes a hinderence that is outdone by them she feels like they're taking away her value. She hates herself more than anyone else and is projecting that constant frustration at being outdone by them, not being paid attention to and knowing how pathetic she is for feeling all of this but not knowing how not to feel like she becomes literal trash the moment she's unable to pilot the eva outward by throwing tantrums. She especially hates how the doll-like Rei and Shinji are the ones that are doing this.
>>284777454It means Asuka fans who push an idealized Asuka and drag everyone else down to the point of sabotaging entire communities.Asukashippers are the worst.
>>284777658Of course, Asuka herself being a doll, which she projects onto Rei.Rei is a strong independent girl in thw trappings of a doll, Asuka is a doll pretending to be human.Its an overused saying but Asuka is a literal NPC.
>>284777497I can understand why someone could value Rei and her ability to grow through self-reflection, but I base who I like not just on that but also on how much I can empathize with their character and in that respect Asuka is simply so much more human and tragic. I can absolutely see a human exactly like her exist somewhere, but not really with Rei. She feels more like an ideal or a concept, rather than a flesh and blood human. Her self-liberation from her life as nothing but a tool of Gendo is great to watch, but it doesn't get to me on the same base emotional level as seeing Asuka struggle does.
>>284777762So you find common ground with being a loser. Thats OK.
>>284777762>She feels more like an ideal or a concept, rather than a flesh and blood human.That's the whole point. She's a tube baby/blue rose.>but it doesn't get to me on the same base emotional level as seeing Asuka struggle does.That's because you are an individual human being with your own worldview.
>>284777762>misinterpret eva>become asukafags>deliberately make up inane drivel (hurrr show feels like a concept) to defend waifu misinterpretationMany such cases.Sad!
>>284777717>which she projects onto Rei.How is Asuka supposed to know how Rei is growing with time? She only sees her perfectly executing every command she's given, being willing to give up her own life at the behest of Gendo and embody everything she thinks a doll would be.>Its an overused saying but Asuka is a literal NPC.She's only a NPC if everyone that that can't free themselves from their own mental trauma through introspection and their own will is, which is retarded and a standard you wouldn't apply to a normal 14 year old.
>>284777887How often does a regular human being that grew up the way Rei has learn to free herself from all of that without any outside intervention, just through quiet contemplation? It's absurd and you know it. I don't think there's nothing human about Rei, but overall she feels much harder to relate to.
>>284777898Asuka simping detected.Shinji and Rei did what Asuka could not. Suck it and cry yourself to sleep knowing that Asuka is inferior.
>>284777971>My waifu Asuka didnt make it so no one else can even though others did in the show
>>284777971No one gives a shit what you relate to. If you relate to being a failure like Asuka and not a success like Asuka go being it up with your shrink.His advice? Be like Rei.
>>284777977I agree that both grew in a way she hasn't in the show (though she does decide to at least face reality at the end of EoE). I don't need to, nor have I ever argued for her being superior in terms of growth. I like her despite her flaws. Or rather, her flaws make her all the more human to me. If I only cared about that I'd be a Reifag instead.
>>284752323God I loved this series, boy turning into a girl then falling in love with his rival/bully is so hot, and the rival doesn't even know that it's him! He just found a new girl he falls in love with without knowing that she was a guy he knows.
>>284776851>but she is an abject failureYeah, hence why she gets suicidal and then completely loses the ability to pilot until eoe. That's integral to her character. She underperforms and then fails. She's explicitly nothing like the bold, confident attitude she puts out - that's just an emotional wall to keep others from seeing how scared and lonely she is.In other words, she's a real human being and a real hero
>>284778421>In other words, she's a real human being and a real heroWhat? Putting up a facade of being a heroine is the opposite of being a heroine. Because by your own words you pointed out that it's all lies. It's made up to hide how pathetic she really is.
>>284778496Because despite being discarded by her awful parents and then used as a disposable tool by the evil ass shadow government for her entire life she ultimately fought until the bitter end She was dealt an awful hand and got fucked over by everyone and everything in the world.
>>284778421She is a cartoonShe isnt a hero eitherCan I interest you in Shikinami though? Its Asuka if she was more like Rei. Wildly popular!
>>284778573So was Rei but Rei showed them
>>284778496Not him, but Shinji also needed outside help to deal with his issues. Blaming Asuka when she never even got the sort of care and attention Shinji got is kind of unfair. Her entire life she basically lacked even what Misato was trying to give Shinji.
>>284778573>Because despite being discarded by her awful parents and then used as a disposable tool by the evil ass shadow government for her entire life she ultimately fought until the bitter endA tool that fought till the bitter end.>She was dealt an awful hand and got fucked over by everyone and everything in the world.I still don't see how that's supposed to make her into a heroine.
>>284778614She did, but she slso had multiple chances at life in general. Had Asuka been fighting the 16th Angel Gendo would never have sent out Shinji, never mind Rei.
>>284778615>she never even got the sort of care and attention Shinji got is kind of unfairYeah, she just pushed everyone away that did try to help her. Rei pointed out how egotistical she was even after Shinji was absorbed by the void Angel that was caused by Asuka and she still blamed Shinji.
>>284778617I find it heroic , regardless of ultimate victory, that she went down swinging. Considering that these objectively evil SEELE people and gendo used her for all she was worth and then threw her away. She did that Immediately out of a coma, even. It's better than shinji just sitting around in a despondent state until Rei sets things up for him.Asuka also contributed to protecting everyone in tokyo-3 and the rest of Earth many times by fighting angels.
>>284778737she gets a contribution award Hooray
>>284778737>She did that Immediately out of a coma, even....by getting a powerup from her dead mom>Asuka also contributed to protecting everyone in tokyo-3 and the rest of Earth many times by fighting angels.Most of the time losing. While Shinji and Rei actually kill the Angels.
I wanted a funny thread, not pseud Asuka vs Rei waifuwars...
>>284778792Holy based
>>284778828Chad would have handled it by putting a ring on it and denouncin Asuka and the Talmud
>>284778772When you're one of the few people actively preventing Humanity's extinction, yes, a participation award is still heroic Shinji is still heroic despite throwing tantrums and having PTSD attacks and disobeying orders constantlyRei is the most heroic since she gives her life twice for shinji without hesitation
>>284778904It's like Shinji and Rei are made for each other.
>>284778255That's a bit gay, anon.
SIRP manga Rei, best Rei.
>>284735401>Jesus christ yuo're beautiful. You're so beautiful. Can I hug you? Just for a second. One quick hug. Yeah. That's nice right? Haha. You're so soft. Have you ever been told you're beautiful? I bet you'd be really good at kissing. Have you ever been kissed? What? Haha! Wow your waist is so thin I can almost fit my hands around it.
>>284735401Probably leave her alone after realizing she's weird and unfuckable. A Chad would fuck Asuka because she's actuslly open to the idea of fucking. A Beta would probably try to force themselves on Rei and mayne score because she's basically a limp noodle who just takes it. Betas are notorious rapists so thats were the real danger is.
>>284782338You gave her the ick 3 words in.
>>284782608It's too late because there's nowhere for her to go. Those words aren't to "convince" her that she's about to be entered. They're just to keep her mind busy while it happens.
Is Evangelion fun to watch? It's not just Anno telling his audience that they suck?I've already know all the spoilers thanks to these threads over the years but I'm thinking of giving it a shot at last.
>>284782529Betacuck detected
>>284782779Evangelion literally changed the way anime told stories. If you aren't interested in that or don't understand what the term "watershed moment" means you might be annoyed that it's not giving you the same type of low-effort, easily digestible slop you were likely raised on.
>>284782832This is exactly why I shy away from anime similar to Evangelion. All these "You need a high IQ to enjoy this anime" comments and whatnot.I watched the original Mobile Suit Gundam and Legend of the Galactic Heroes out of interested curiosity, not because they're "deep".
>>284783078You don't understand it at all.>"You need a high IQ to enjoy this anime"Inaccurate preconceived bias. Overly simplistic strawman predicated on resentment.There's nothing more profoundly ignorant than avoiding something because of inaccurate unanalyzed opinions received secondhand from its worst participants.
>>284782779>It's not just Anno telling his audience that they suck?He doesn't, he only hates himself. That's just misinformation from westerner retards trying to justify why they like an anime full of 14-year-old girls showing their breasts and panties.
is rape a chad move?
>>284783957Yes
>>284783957chads can't rape
>>284782779I watched it as a teen and didn't get it at all, simply thinking it made no sense and stops giving a fuck about the story midway through for some philosophical therapy session at the end that doesn't feel like a proper ending to anything at all. For years I thought evafags were all obnoxious pseuds or just the artistic type and I was just unable to ever get it. I watched it again years later after forgetting most of it and it's probably the best thing I've ever seen. When anons simply say you're unable to get it they're not telling you that the reason for that has basically nothing to do with you being to retarded and is just about you relating to the feelings and state of mind expressed in it. If you've ever been severely depressed you might just be able to connect with it on such a profound level that it's difficult to put into words. Nothing else really matters, neither the plot nor any obscure references and themes. It's just about you seeing yourself in it. Everything else is a freebie. I recommend you ignore every single person here and just give it a watch, trying to pay attention more to the characters, their feelings and what they go through, rather than the plot or mysteries.
>>284735435*Reipe
>>284783141nta but this entire sentence reads like highfalutin fart-sniffer garbage
>>284782779The idea of it being Anno telling the audience they suck is a giant misconception. It doesn't even make sense as Anno was a full on otaku when he was making Eva so it's not a takedown of that culture as much as it is a mirror to the audience's emotions in generalAnyway, Eva is good. I can't exactly say it's 'fun' outside of its action sequences because it's not exactly a happy show all things considered, but it is good.
>>284784475yes
He would promptly leave and go find Asuka.
>>284782779>It's not just Anno telling his audience that they suck?It's quite the opposite in fact.
>>284787412I'd do the same.
REICISM against Asuka
>>284788419That sounds like Rei trying to rape Asuka
>>284787412>>284788383And do what?
>>284753286You mean the same Shinji who gooned to Asuka’s sleepy tits?
>>284758957Bitch made faggots with no confidence in themselves can only fantasize about having a chance with emotionless doormats instead
>>284758957I don't particularly care about any of the Eva girls but I find Asuka obnoxious, her whole thing with Kanji is annoying and dealing with her for more than 2 minutes has to be exhausting. Also, I like the 'doll develops emotions' trope. That being said, Asaka makes more sense for someone like Shinji than Rei. People who have been fighting for decades over which mentally ill woman is the best are completely retarded in my opinion.
oh shit, im sorry
>>284790774Wut
you know you kind of look like my mom
>>284789454>her whole thing with Kanji is annoying and dealing with her for more than 2 minutes has to be exhaustingDo you really not feel bad for her after finding out about her past? Like, I get that her personality can be pretty grating and the archetype is not everyone's thing, it isn't mine, but I can't imagine not being pained by all of these otherwise annoying scenes once you know the reason for why she behaves the way she does. It's like blaming Rei for having a basically nonexistent personality even after finding out about her circumstances.
>>284788703Cry into her shoulder that nobody loves me while she gives me 'that look'.
>>284791760No. Her past is less fucked up than the rest. Even Hikari has it worse.Asuka is weak and she is disgusting.
>>284791760From a writing perspective, sure. I like her as a character or her role in the series. I don't find her story moving, and I don't feel much empathy for her tho.
>>284790774Kek
>>284758957I don't like loud bitches.Also I like her design more.
>>284758957I mean the problem with Rei is Anno kinda sidelined her for 15 chapters, even he admits to this and says it was sort of a mistake to have such a quick character arc and pay-off by episode 6 because he didn't know what else to do.By the end of the show Rei isn't even a human character in the same sense Shinji, Asuka, Misato, even Ritsuko and Gendo, are. The psychology explored is not human psychology but more like "thematic" ""philosophy"" that doesn't correlate to things a real life human could experience the way other characters' issues do.
Maya did everything right
>>284792148>I don't find her story moving, and I don't feel much empathy for her tho.least heartless reifag
>>284735401A true chad wouldnt have broken into her home like Shinji did in the first place.
>>284735401exactly how shinji did
>>284794288>least heartless reifagThe way she treated everyone around her, that's understandable. Asuka didn't have ''cowering in fear'' trauma, but ''I live in hell so I'll make everyone else's life hell'' approach to her own situation. It may seem that she's trying to connect with others through this, but some of her actions outright contradict themselves it comes down to ''a sinking ship trying to bring everyone with her so she's not lonely sinking'' which is outright diabolical.
>>284795336fuck me, that's hotfuck her, shinji
it's been thirty fucking years and you fags are still at it
>>284745294
>>284795429And you're still crying about it.
>>284795287>I live in hell so I'll make everyone else's life hellShe only really started lashing out towards the end when she was slowly losing the one thing that gave her life any value and then she only lashed out against things related to that. Her growing resentment towards not just Rei, Shinji and Misato, but also towards herself is hardly that extreme of a reaction. It's not just about her not being the center of attention or something like that; it's her feeling like her life's purpose is slowly being taken from her and there's nothing she can do to stop it. Not everyone is Rei and can just decide to rationally deal with all of their mental issues, especially at that age. I can't see how anyone that stopped thinking of her as just a character to be judged by how entertaining or relatable she is and tried to imagine her as an actual person could ever think of her as that bad. If there existed a kid like Asuka would you really hold their behaviour that much against them?
>>284796194>If there existed a kid like Asuka would you really hold their behaviour that much against them?For the sake of my own psychological well being, yes. Living with a person like Asuka is like being stuck in a padded cell with an insane person. You slowly go mad too. She's messed up, but like a dog with rabies she spreads that illness. Best thing is isolation so she doesn't harm those around her.
>>284793393Most autistic and retarded take iTT
>>284796194People dont like brats dude. Only mentally ill pederasts do.Face is, Asuka is shit, Rei is bae.
>>284796381>Best thing is isolation so she doesn't harm those around her.Thankfully no one here is ever having kids.
>>284796440I don't want to fuck her (she has the best design though). I just feel for her, if that makes any sense. And wanting to fuck a character that looks the exact same age, but is an obedient doll for most of the story is defintiely worse.
>>284776836Only a problem if you aren't confident in your own height genes
>>284796468What are you on about?
>>284796544Asuka is the doll fyi.
>>284797087No
>>284798701She is
>>284799425Not
pelo pelo
>>284795336Get in the homunculus, Shinji.
ummm...they're 14 tho...
>>284803040
>>284795336It's a reason to want to visit more often.
>>284803040In better times before humanity went COMPLETELY FUCKING INSANE that used to be considered “adult.”
>>284795336If Gendo gave me this in exchange I'd pilot as many robots as he wanted
>>284735401>>284795336God this scene was one of my youngest boners. The fact that Rei reacts so differently to Shinji compared to the average romcom slapstick skit just added to the sexual tension when I first watched it as a young lad.
>>284804880imagine if he wasn't a pussy
>>284805050I highly doubt Rei would let him just use her. She only takes orders from Gendo.
>>284805090what would be the harm of not letting him use her?
the lack of bondage rape porn featuring rei is highly disturbing
>>284805173>what would be the harm of not letting him use her?I don't know, you tell me. I'm against the concept of raping Rei.
