Chapter 1170 Spoilers
>>284752412I am stronger than Kaido.
>>284752466oh yeah? prove it
Now we ALL collectively laugh our asses off at the retards who kept spamming for a year+ that the legendary DF was Nika
post waifus
>>284752505ThisIt really is fucking hilarious how many retards believed Loki didn't eat any fruit. Same with the ones who thought the Elbaph legendary fruit was the Nika fruit KEK.
>>284752412>shattered to piecesGLASSrald
>>284752505>>284752552Nice samefagging
goodnight /opg/
>LOKI, LEND US SOME LEGENDARY DEVIL FRUIT ABI-ACK AIEEEEEEE
>destroyed into piecesDoes that mean Harald is still alive but his pieces are sealed somewhere?
>>284752412>another shapeshifter fruityawn
Predict his last words.
>Shanks really got KWABed by Harald>Before this chapter, there were many Shanks fans who believed he actually soloed Harald with Loki taking the blame for itTopkek, shanksjeets are so fucking hilarious
>shattering Harald to pieces wtf lol
>>284752592Gn and happy Christmas
>>284752630>AIEEEEEEE WHY WAS I SUCH A RETARDED BOOTLICKING RACE TRAITOR AAARGH
How did Loki got captured by Shanks who is much weaker than him then?
>>284752630>WE...>MUST... *coughs blood*>B-BE...>BETTER...MEN...!!!
>>284752630MARIEJOIS HAS A RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSEL-
>the only way to stop the holy knights is simply more conquers haki and kill / hit them over and overRetcon?
>>284752614>>284752644Its whatever Nidhogg can do. Harald said only Loki who ate the DF can defeat him, he must have known what the ability can do. Maybe it can bypass regen somehow
>attacking repeatedly until they can't fight anymore>Recovers immediately after??
Just Haki harder bro
>>284752412>it's another fucking zoan
>>284752412What's the point of Hajrudin?
>Loki defeat super Harald after eating the legendary devil fruityep yep...devilfruitchads, we won.hakifags LOST
>>284752717Elders have CoC themselves, they arent like HKs. Read slower
>>284752657Shanks got stronger
>the DF is so fucking powerful it straight up overpowers super CoCYeah this may be the strongest DF in the manga, not even Nikaffy does that
>>284752764>Shanks has CoC>Shamrock doesn't???
>>284752657Shanks cheated
WE JUST NEED MORE HAKI!
So why the fuck did Saint Saturn regenerate?
>>284752828Merry Christmas too
>he was rightLokis DF literally ignored Haralds super CoC and shattered him
So why the fuck was Whitebeard the World's Strongest Man if Loki is stronger than him?>inb4 "nobody knew about Loki"The narrator of the story himself literally gave him this title. Its not rumor-based.
>You are illite-ACK
>>284752855Because it's Haki vs Haki. Same reason Xebec didn't go down easily; his CoC was so high that Roger and Garp couldn't turn off his regeneration without going all out.
>>284752855Negated it with his own CoC I assume. All elders have CoC like Harald while the HKs havent shown to have it
>we need a devil fruit to use better haki Genius
>>284752902Because Loki isn't stronger than him.There, that simple.
>>284752915Nikafy has insane CoC
>Lokis DF(Nidhogg)>Yami Yami no mi>Nika Nika no mi>Ope Ope no miWhich is the most legendary?
>>284752902It's like Rock Paper Scissors Just because Rock can beat Scissors doesn't mean that Paper can beat Scissors even though Paper beats Rock.
>>284752965Yes, but Roger and Garp used up their entire haki storage to put Xebec down.
>>284752965But not Luffy. Goofys haki clearly wasnt stronger than the elders. The regen has fiarly simple explanation. Its CoC vs CoC. Loki defeating Harald though seems to imply his ability somehow got past Haralds CoC
The spoilers imply that Loki and Ragnir are equals
>>284752975Obviously the Nika fruit anon.
>>284752980God this is stupid
>>284752752But he didn't use his fruit though?
>>284753025It is, but that's what happened.
>>284752855Luffy wasn't using aCoC, I am not joking.
Holy FUARKING shit a squirrel is one of the strongest characters in One Piece
Imagining people saying Loki is Garling level because Harald regained consciousness before dying.I feel like The Empire of Dust Chinese man saying "It's all so tiresome."Garling found Rocks close to death.Loki was the one to leave Harald in that state.And before any motherfucker says he wouldn't have if he didn't have Ragnir.No one had beaten Ragnir before.
>not only did Harald die during Christmas but was “shattered to pieces”I told you Harald dies this Christmas
Maybe the key isn't that the fruit has some specific antiregen property but that it let's you dish out so much damage that the regeneration gets worn out.Think about it, when it comes to Domi reversi for example, Imu claims that in exchange for part of your life he'll give you an immortal body. But what if you suffer so much damage that the deal is too heavily tipped in your favor and that's a way of breaking it?
Loki soloes God Valley
Is that squirrel supposed to be a Ratatoskr reference?
>>284753049NIKA THAT'S NUTS!
>>284752412Nigga that's nuts
>running away from his life from Harald>Shanks and Gaban got literally no diffed by Harald>immediately eating the DF made Loki go from that to fighting and killing HaraldThis DF is unironically the most fucking wanked DF yet, even Nika looks ass in comparison, mainly because it took Luffy his entire life to awaken it and he still runs out of steam in 5 minutes. This DF is fucking retardedly broken whatever it is
>>284752888You need the strongest giant with ancient giant blood to eat it because it would probably consume a regular user.What I wonder if it's a giant fruit, or a normal sized devil fruit.Then it's meant to be eaten by a giant. In the sense that a human wouldn't be able to eat it?
Why the hell did Sommers not die then Oda? His spine was bisected
>>284752466nobody...
Can Ragnir by (himself) defeat Akainu?
Fraud Knights ain’t beating the allegations
>the DF is so hax it is defended by a hammer squirrel that is a top tier in itselfHoly kek. Elbaf is overpowered as shit
Loki cannot be a Straw Hat, dawg, he's like 5 times stronger than Luffy
>>284752975Isn't Loki a squirrel DF?
>>284753161nah, Luffy just hasn't been trying since he fought Kaido
>>284753127the spoiler says the Roger pirates fought the HKs,but it didn't say they killed any.They came back because they were still alive, I suppose.I don't think they changed a holy knight each time the Roger pirates beat one.They just beat them probably, but didn't kill any. Even though they could probably, just didn't want to.Same way Roger and Garp stopped Rocks, but didn't kill him.But maybe not because they wouldn't have killed the HKs, they just didn't care.
>>284753140why?
>>284753175Is reading fucking illgeal where you live or what?
>>284753157>ElbafAnon, Elbaf is 99.9999999% fodder. Loki and Harald were/are their only threats. Ragnir isn't even gonna do anything unless someone tries to go for the fruit, it doesn't give a shit about Elbaf, it hit the tree and set it on fure
>>284753185The squirrel shoving Loki is a feat in itself
>>284753225??
>>284753183Weird thing is, why didn't Gaban kill Sommers in Elbaf?If he said long time no see, and Sommers was scared,then probably the Roger pirates saw them as no threat and allowed them to escape or something?Or left after leaving them knocked out?
>>284753209If Loki isn't a squirrel how is he going to fit on the Sunny? He's too big.
>>284752902Because Oda makes shit up as he goes. He obviously didn't intend Loki to be stronger than WB or Kaido when Loki was first mentioned in WCI.
>they were defeated everytime>for 15 years
>>284753217The squirrel is a Klabauterman from the ships that the Galley-la giants built.
>>284753157It better be its the most hyped island in the series.
>>284753304Incorrect. Oda has respected Whitebeard's strength a lot and as the series progressed. He was still the strongest man in the world during his lifetime just as Big Mom was the strongest woman.
>>284753311The Holy Ginyu Force.No, The Holy Gendarmery Force.
>>284753311Truely the greatest villain jobber squad in OP, Holy Roppo
>>284753287>>284753209
>>284753311So Dragon is a CoClet if he's afraid of those guys, right?
So luffy low diffed Kizaru without using Acoc? yikes!
>>284753311Yet still a bigger threat than the Admirals.. Damn. How shit is the Marines and World Government if these are their strongest powers?
>>284753333This would do numbers in reddit
>shanks got btfo by haraldkek lmao
>>284753287We don't know his DF ability.
>>284753397They are probably a nightmare in a war look at what Killingham can do
>the squirrel hammer would mid diff any admiral
Scotch:>Clarification, At the end of the chapter, Harald gains his mind back and gives Loki the chance to kill him. >*my interpretation is Harald gives loki the chance by not coating his body with CoC or even counterattack.
So that confirms Shitrock was gonna get fucked if Loki was fully unchained
Shanks is like 0-4 in actual fights
Leakers seem conflicted. Loki didnt defeat Harald fully, it seems like he just damaged Harald enough for him to regain consciousness back.https://x.com/WorstGenHQ/status/2004200930204623178
>>284753406Are you retarded? When the fuck were they ever stated to be stronger or scarier than Admirals?
>>284753406>How shit is the Marines and World Government if these are their strongest powers?They lose to Lobsters and Imu throwing a temper tantrum respectively. This only makes the pirates look stronger since they've been shitting on both factions for years, despite the propaganda. It also will make the strongest members of Luffy's crew retroactively stronger, if Oda really have Sanji and Zoro learn how to effectively defeat the Holy Knights before we leave Elbaf.
>>284753467>>284753501>no diffs Shanks and Gaban>lets himself be killed by LokiSAY IT WITH ME, TOP FUCKING 1
>>284753082Most definitely
>>284752412>the HKs tried to abduct Shanks several timesDamn I figured Garling must have tried to make contact at least once but I didn't expect that.
>>284753360Holy Roppo has been the go to name
>>284753534So he jobbed to Rayleigh or Roger most likely kek
I don't get why people are making fun of the HKs. Why is being weaker than Roger and his wings such a bad thing? Most characters can't stand up to those guys. Majority of HKs were never stated to be top-tiers at all so this seems very silly.
>>284753311So they literally got lucky that Rocks was tired.
>>284753525>if Oda really have Sanji and Zoro learn how to effectively defeat the Holy Knights before we leave Elbaf.Basically confirming Vivi rejoining soon then, since the HKs will have become a nonfactor to the Strawhats and they'll be able to protect her from Imu
This is the only way Loki is joining
>>284753591why ?
>>284753594If it's a wolf or a dragon he's going to need a small alternative form
>>284753591>This is the only way Loki is joiningIf Loki is really that fucking strong with such a busted DF, then the ship for him joining has officially sailed.
>>284753561>Be called the KNIGHTS OF GOD>Lose to anyone below GODAnon...
>>284753606no he doesn't. The sunny is gonna get upgraded. He can easily fit.
>Ancient giant Blood>Conqueror's haki>Mythic Ragnarok Serpent fruit>Legendary warhammer that eaten a Mythic Squirrel fruit >Overpowered the previous strongest recorded giant (Harald) despite all the empowerment and regeneration from Imu (the same regeneration that allowed Imu to no-sold a combined attack of all the Legends of the old era aside Shiki)>Shanks STILL defeated this LokiSo how exactly is Oda's self insert so powerfull? Bearing Loli should put you above Roger/Rocks and on par with the Imu/Jones/Joyboy trio
>>284753611I feel like this arc might nerf him. If he's going to join, he's going to need a dream. His dream may be to recover his strength.
>>284753612>Lose to anyone below GODNow that's just dumb. Why would every HK be a top-tier? They were never portrayed nor stated to be that way.
>>284753617>The sunny is gonna get upgradedLol
>>284753529He’d lose to DR rocks
>>284753627Shanks defeating him is probably another lie
>>284753627>defeatedShanks used trickery to cowardly capture Loki and imprison hin for crimes he didn't commit
>>284753627>>Shanks STILL defeated this LokiWe don't know how their fight went anon.>So how exactly is Oda's self insert so powerfull?He isn't Oda's self insert. Buggy is.>above Roger/Rocks and on par with the Imu/Jones/Joyboy trioNope
>>284753665It clearly is, Loki took the blame for the King to protect his legacy. Not necessarily the same for Shanks, but Loki just absorbs every wrong doing
>>284752630I AM THE BEST SHABBO GOY OF THE (((DRAGONS)))
>>284752657Shanks has a stock of Conqueror's haki knots stolen across the years from Roger, Imu, the Eldars, Gaban and Harald (he dosent actually have CH by himself. Hes a fraud)
>>284752717>attacking repeatedly until they can't fight>recovers after they stopped attacking when he could still fightcurious
>>284752412This feels like meme spoilersDefeating the HK is just using conquerors haki?Silhouette just to hide another mythical zoan?This is fake right?
>>284753746>when he could still fightBut he couldn't.
>>284753657>Lolanon you forgot the fact that lilith and franky are on elbaph as well as that there is a whole pile of Adam wood around. The sunny is ofc gonna get much bigger after this arc, Franky will convert it into the anti-pluton.
>>284752412>Logia count: 13>Mythical Zoan count: 19, likely moreEvery day this becomes funnier and funnier.
>>284753311>Hyped as the new Golden Saints/Akatushi/Espada of anime >They are actually the new Team RocketKWAB
>>284753790Nigga, we're not getting a new ship. You're stupid as fuck.
GODki stock holders, how are you all feeling on this fine Christmas day?
>>284753848Cucked and betrayed
>Yamato has CoC>Ulti probably has it too>if Ulti has it that means its a chance that Page1 also has it>Page1 could probably kick Shamrock's ass
>>284753627>Bearing Loli>*Beating Loki
>>284753838>>Hyped as the new Golden Saints/Akatushi/Espada of animeYour source for this?
>>284753311>dragon was seriously afraid of the jobsquad that can be beaten by just using more coc
>>284753838*Akatsuki, my bad
>>284753847>Nigga, we're not getting a new ship. You're stupid as fuck.why do you believe that?Blackbeard is heavily foreshadowed to break the walls of Wano and acquire Pluton. how do you expect the Strawhats to counter that?simple, by building the anti-pluton. Franky already has the blueprints memorized in his mind and now he has all the materials.>new shipits still the Sunny, its just getting an upgrade.
>Sommers probably got his ass beat so many times by the Roger Pirates that it gave him PTSDKWAB
>>284753923he was the only one in the RA with CoC, he can't be everywhere to fight the HKs. which is why Ginny was taken.
>>284753838>>284753982Still Hogan, altought the Holy Roppos are really trying everything they can to defeated him for the KWABOTY 2025
>>284753965By using another ancient weapon, Poseidon or claiming Uranus. Also, nothing implies Franky memorized it. Headcanon>its still the Sunny, its just getting an upgradeDo you know anything about basic shipbuilding? What makes a ship a ship is the hulll. You can't upgrade or fix a hull. Making a bigger hull means making a new ship. This was literally the point of Water 7 with Going Merry.
I guess only Bonney is joining at the end of the arc now.
>>284752412>ANOTHER zoanYawn
>>284754047Why the fuck are you surprised it was a zoan?
>>284754016Still Tony
Logias are weak ass
THE HOLY KNIGHTS ARE BLASTING OFF AGAIN
>>284752466We know Loki...
>>284753838I've never seen anyone ever say that about them except for (You)
>>284754109>*Awakened Logias are the STRONGEST TYPE OF DEVIL FRUITSFixed
>>284752630>CHANGE the world, my final message. Goodbye *lego breaking sound*
Shanks posed as uta on a den den mushi and entrapped loki
>MYTH piece>COC piecefucking yawn
>>284752595What's the point of CoC just being better CoA on all ends?
>>284753848Bullish as all hell
>>284754198How hard was she ovulating there?
>>284752412LOKI>>>>EMPOWERED HARALD>>>>XEBEC.It's so over the powerscalers won.
>>284754198>my type is a mountain-sized aryan chudlord
>>284752902Because Loki is the world's strongest GIANT.
>>284754241that ain't true
>>284754263i'd say tesoro's one is the best fitting one
>>284754263he would have either eaten one decades ago without the right amount of care put into it and gotten some random useless bshe would have other fruit users around him use their power and make it look like his own nowadays
>Garling>failing constantly for over a decade>promoted>Saturn>failed once (1) >demoted and killed
>>284754144Gonna exit this with Fraudling, Gunko and Sommers faces kek
>>284753838I will lose my shit if its revealed that they were fake holy knights and the "true" Espada no Dios is revealed.
>>284754321Gorosei Garling is stronger than Shanks and Mihawk albeit.
>>284754321figarrats have generational plot armor
>>284754162Dragon has an awakened logia and he is a weak ass
>>284752412Damn, he got shattered to pieces? That's a brutal death
>>284754321Saturn didnt follow Imu's order to destroy the Iron Giant 200 years ago and instead kept it hidden to study it. It was pretty much a betrayal, and betrayers gets to eat the bullet
>>284754321Imu thought he was handsome.
Disinformation alert. Harald wasnt defeated, he just regains himself and lets Loki kill him
>>284754333>exit*edit
>>284754321>let the scientist keep emeth around 200 years ago>failed to keep god valley in pristine order>fucked up with eggheadhe deserved it
>>284753627Probably attacked the ship Loki was on while out at sea
>>284754383FUCK YOU WORSTGEN
Will the Monkey be revealed as another legendary D clan, or will it be revealed to be a fake name like Rocks?>Inbefore Joyboy D Luffy
>>284752630>ELBAF WAS PROMISED...>3000, I MEAN 800...>YEARS AGO...>to the gods people......
>>284754383KEEEEEEEEK, LOKI FAGS? Fell for leaker bait again award
>>284754442No, it won't.
>>284754383Lokibros?
>>284754383>>284754460>KEEEEEEEEK, LOKI FAGS? Fell for leaker bait again awardlmao deserved
>>284754383>btfos Gaban and Shanks>fight Loki with Ragnir + legendary DF>only gets defeated because he gives himself upHoly fuck. How strong is Harald?
>>284754460>>284754484this is good for loki4strawhat bagholders
>>284754383but Loki had to cause that by fighting him most likely, or he would've done that before.And it had to be Loki after getting Ragnir and the fruit.
Carrot will join the Strawhat crew alongside Loki by the end of the Elbaph arc.
>>284754203you're still stuck on this loser?
>>284754510>Holy fuck. How strong is Harald?Strong enough that Rocks knew they could take over the world if they worked together.
>>284752630IMU WAS IN THE EPSTE-
>>284754442Joyboy is a nickname like how Luffy is called Mugiwara, his real name is Monkey D. Merry
>>284754547as if releasing them would unr*pe somebody
>>284754578Nope
>>284754526Yes. Loki weakened him, not defeated though. Still way better performance than Shanks and Gaban
So there's a chapter next week, break again (with spoilers coming out though), then what, Oda break?
>>284752630Ain't no party like Imu party
>>284754594>Nopethis was always a journey of destiny.
>>284752630>PHARAOH!! LET MY PEOPLE GO!!!
>>284754653he won't be a Monkey D blud
Carrot will join the Strawhat by the end of the Elbaph arc after getting Ragnir's fruit when it dies fighting Imu.
The Gorosei are Imu's actual goon squad, the Holy Knights are just Celestials larping as warriors.
>>284754670He will.
shanksister status?
Carrot will join the BMPs as Perosperos’ war bride and shortly thereafter all her fans (singular) will an hero.
>>284754670his silhouette was literally Luffy, Monkey D. Merry soon.
>>284754731>Shanks defeated Loki who had CoC and 2 mythical ZoansEating good today.
Cant wait for the raws to see Harald fucking wipe the floor with that little ginger rat
>>284754731joyboy haki trust the plan
>>284754729>>284754754roger wasn't a monkey do, so why should joyboy be a monkey d?also why the fuck would imu keep the monkey ds around if he fucking hated the davys so much and wanted them dead?
Loki will join the revolutionaries
>>284752412>one taps powered up haroldWho the FUCK can compete with Loki? Holy shit, and its beyond obvious he got a Mythical Zoan, because thats the meta now. So his physical strength must be insane.
>>284752855Jew bonus
>>284754785I doubt Dragon has a Loki-sized table for him.
>>284752466*The Kaido
So what's Loli DF?
>>284754793>oda saving awakened Logias for lastwho's going to be the first to get one? Dragon? Davy Jones in flashback?
Loki fraud status?
>>284754851Even then, he was strong enough to somehow knock Imu's power out of him for the time being. Thats something we haven't seen before. Don't know if it was brute strength, haki, or both that did it. I'm thinking both considering how Loki was hitting Harald earlier and he was still brainwashed, where as now with the new devil fruit and hammer, he knocked the Imu outta him.
>His hands turn into clawsSo, mythical zoan. That was expected. But I did not expect Ragnir to turn into a cute squirrel
>>284754776Because Roger was never Joyboy or Nika. Monkey is a fake name like Rocks.
Remember when ginger blud thought he was stronger than Harald? KEKAROOOOOO
>>284754865wolf wolf model Alpha
>>284752902loki is a giant, whitebeard is a man
>>284754865We still don't know
>>284754866How would you even awaken a logia honestly?Paramcia's seem to be affecting their enviroment or whatever they touch, while awakened zoans practically make you a powerhouse with insane regen. So surely a logia wouldn't be the same.
Leave Harald to me
>>284752412I wonder why Garling wants Shanks back?Is it because of the Child of fate thing
I have a hard time scaling>Rocks/Harald/Roger/Garp/WBOr are they all equal in their primes?
>>284754822He probably can fly if he really is a dragon, just have all the trannies and Dragon ride him.
>>28475381419 in a world populated by billions of people. I'd say that's pretty rare
>>284754910blud roger's inherited joyboy's will just like rocks' inherited davy's, and yet roger wasn't a monkey d.
>>284754905>But I did not expect Ragnir to turn into a cute squirrelWe shoulda seen it coming considering Ratatoskr is a real thing in norse mythology. It had to appear somewhere.
>>284752412Damn, Loki has conqueror's haki. Didn't see that coming.
>>284754974The issue is he's not saying "it's very rare in this world", he's saying it's rare by comparison to Logias even though from what we've seen it isn't.I think Oda just ran out of ideas for Logias honestly. At most we've got Dragon and that's it.
>>284754955imu ordered it
>>284754898>I'm thinking both considering how Loki was hitting Harald earlier and he was still brainwashed, where as now with the new devil fruit and hammer, he knocked the Imu outta him.>Thing that didn't happenedHarald regained controlled thanks to the devil fruit's and Ragnir's power. Loki is just a DF that needed daddy to let him kill him.
I AM THE STRONGEST AND MOST HOMOSEXUAL
>>284754974Kizaru is just dumb. If devil fruits are born of people's dreams, it's more likely a kid would want to be a dragon than to be fucking mud or whatever Caribou was
>>284755042>from what we've seenany sane reader understands that we've seen less than 1% of the world
>>284754955>I wonder why Garling wants Shanks back?Still his son.
baby loki
>>284755042>I think Oda just [cope]Enough already. No one gives a shit about Logia except Admiralfags and who the fuck is checking for those irrelevant shitters? Those with real mastery over their fruits don't need the extra fluff. Crocodile, Enel, Kizaru, Kuzan, Sakazuki and somewhat Aramaki are all skilled with their Logia. The difference is literally comparing Gods to mere elements. Of course the former shits on the latter, the same way Logia shits on standard fruits.
>Harald is the stronge-ACKKENTER
>>284755114Rocks...
>>284755162DF merchant Gary Stu
>>284755114Imu...except you're not technically homosexual but your obsession with Lili is very faggy you incel fucker.
>>284755198but enough about DESTINEDffy
>>284755176imagine the sex
If Loki is a DF merchant, what does that make Luffy? He would get obliterated by Zoro without his fruit.
>>284752855Same reason Imu, Xebec and Harald regenerate. They're conquerors. The Holy knights are not. Even the spoilers explain this. It's haki vs haki + immortality.
>>284754016Still Tony Khan
also baby loki
>>284753311They keep going against top tiers. Against the revolutionary army and the lower tier strawhats they will be fearsome.
>>284755249Jobling has no CoC while Shanks does?
>>284752803shamrock is a coward
>>284755225>size difference
>>284755302No he does have it. He just didn't have it during God Valley.Shanks inherited his joyboy level CoC from him anon.
>>284755237He would have become deck cleaner along with Koby
>>284754186To make sure that only a chosen few and not plebs like sanji or jinbe have access to it
How strong would a child between Loki and Shirahoshi be with their combined genes?
Streets are saying that ragnir mf negdiff Lanji.
>>284755273>tore the village that poisoned Ida apart with his bare handsone of the most based characters, or the most based character?
>>284755114DYKEmu...
>>284753838That was never a possibility, we're already in the endgame. It's as if the Akatsuki had to go against Hashirama or EoS Naruto, they would get their asses kicked, too. >>284755302He might have but Xebec's coc was bigger.
>>284752412Kino chapter
>>284755198>legendary fruit>legendary weapon that also ate a legendary fruit>cursed eyes, cursed fate, coc>ancient giant>knows rocks, gaban, shanks and knows rocks' goalyou're not wrong
>>284755397stop listening to the street-homies in whole cake island, they talk nonsense
>>284753311Many Holy Knights were certainly killed.They were replaced by younger ones like Shamrock and Killingham.
>>284755405>if the Akatsuki had to go against Hashirama or EoS Naruto>"they would get their asses kicked"kek are you for real?
>>284755418jehj
>>284755395Shirahoshi's genes are shit. Her family has no feats, controlling sea kings takes nothing physical so Loki better hope the kids take entirely after him
>>284752592How many lap pillow had luffy get in the manga?
>>284752412Loki and Rocks are my GOAT
>>284753311>There was a time when people tought Garling was hot shit
>>284755505basedlook at this retarded ass garlingfag LMAO
Roger is not good. He is a child abductor.He won't give Garling his son back.
>>284755523
>>284755553Based
>>284752412>Harald let's Loki kill himThat's really lame it this true. It's actually worse than Kaido vs Yamato, since Yamato had the delusion Kaido wasn't holding back. Loki just got gifted an OP fruit and reputation for killing his father. He's slated to not join at all nowl. If there's no size-changing shenanigans to that BS fruit it's over.
Slavery is based
>>284755617Harald literallt fucking one taooed Gaban and Shanks, what makes you think anyone apart from Imu itself is able to solo him? This makes sense storytelling wise
>>284755717...said nobody.
>>284755717Garp...
>>284752657Let's say there's one man with a power level of 10, another man with a power level of 11Now the guy with a power level 10 befriended 20 dudes all with a power level of 9Easy win
>>284755751I just realized Loki doesn't have any friends besides the beasts in the underworld. He probably built a shit raft and sailed alone.
bros is this real?
>>284755741Outdated meme, retard. GODrp is confirmed to be a good guy who hates the celestial dragons.
>>284755617why would you need to change size if you can fly?Nosferatu Zodd style.
>>284755727>Powerlevel shitteryI don't care how you cope powerlevelnig. This shit IS lame. If Loki was able to put him down with his new power without Harald giving up it wouldn't be so shitty.
Oda is the greatest mangaka of all time
>>284755828I've heard on some theory video that's Imu's DF
>>284755832>outdated memeyou say that like that matters in the slightest in this retarded pl/a/ce
>>284755864imu doesn't have one
I don’t like fishmen
>>284755553>Roger was originally going to drop Shanks off at an orphanage until the Holy Roppo tried taking him, then it was a game
>Holy Knights don't have Coc.Wasn't there a theory that Celestial Dragons with potential are born with coc Haki like Doflamingo?
>>284755916Garling already has a son, maybe he shouldn't be selfish
>>284755871It does matter, actually. Remember all the Drogon memes? That shit practically disappeared once Oda portrayed him very well in God Valley. He is actually respected now.
>>284755844>why would you need to change size if you can fly?So you want Loki to be a non-character who doesn't interact with the crew, since he's too big and has to fly all the time between islands?
it would be real funny if buggy was a HK child as well and roger took him just to double fuck with the HKs when they came after shanks
>introduce a new group of antagonists in the final saga of the series>they're all incompetent jobbers who can't get a single win and have to leech off of their one actual good team member, shamrockwhy did oda do it
>>284755969>buggy was a HK child as wellwho was his mommy?
Loki = LokiRagnir = RatatoskHarojin = thorHarold = OdinFenrir = random wolf Loki befriended as a child DF has to be something that fits the legendOnly thing people have guessed so far is Surtr
>>284756009Some random slave
>>284755946>Loki to be a non-characterHe's already a noncharacter since he's being discussed related to joinfaggotry
>>284755946If it means flying above or beside the sunny,and if it means having him around until the end, then yeah.If you've had a loved one die, like a pet or a relative that wasn't utter trash,something being there always feels so reassuring.
No wonder the WG wanted to eradicate Roger's bloodline.Roger had a CD child and didn't want to return it to his father.
>>284755993nigga what the fuck did you expect from them in the first place? did you really think each of them was stronger than an admiral or some shit?they are meant to be opponents for the weaker strawhats/grand fleet
>>284755849It has to make sense though
>>284752412>Sending Holy jobbers against fucking Roger
>>284756041They would have taken him back if they wanted him
The STRONGEST
Shanks' mother must have a special lineage.Why does Garling want Shanks? He has Shamrock. He can father new children.
>>284755993>tobiroppa of the world government jobs to the pirate kingit's over...
>>284756127>a special lineageWhy are shanksjeets so desperate for this shit? They already have fucking Garling who is a gorosei and one of the contenders for the one piece.
Ulti is stronger than anyone in the Tobiroppo and the Holyroppo
>>284756120And? Nothing Dragon says was retconned.
>>284752412Haki was a big fucking mistake.
THE GREAT MU WISHES YOU ALL A MERRY CHRISTMAS
>>284756231>Ulti is stronger than anyone in the Tobiroppoultianon...she is weaker than Who's Who and X-Drake...
That squirrel hammer would mid diff Aramaki btw
>>284756310Too late Oda, you had your chance to fight against editor-san.
>>284756336you mean the other way around
Imu will summon Shamrock to Elbaf to fight Loki.Imu's highest priority would be to kill Nika.
>>284756397Is this your new retarded schizo theory?
>>284756397he was already there and recalled to mary geoise, he isn't coming back this arc unless we shift focus to that location
>>284752412>the way to defeat immortals is to coat your attacks with conqueror's hakiDoesn't this just make the whole thing a repeat of what Luffy had to do to get past Kaido's durability? Seems unnecessary to even introduce these new types of tanky characters if they behave the same as the previous one. Hack-y is way too overused in the post-timeskip to begin with.
>>284756435Its not the same as Kaido. You need to use ACoC in a certain way based on Gaban's comments. He told Luffy and Zoro to be mindful of how they use it.
>>284754383Harald > Shanks > squirrel merchant
FIRST WAS ROCKS THEN HARALD. NOW WE KILL JARALD AND NIKAAAAA
BRING ME IMU
So what was the fruit? Nidhogg
>>284756547>Harald > ShanksThats an understatement. Gaban + Shanks + all the giant soldiers got btfo'd
>>284752412lame
>>284755751That would require power levels to scale linearly, which of course they don't.
>>284752698So how will Sanji beat them?
>>284756639he was boosted by the mark
>>284756435Haki beats all, even Kaido said it.
>>284756704Why not?>>284756690Why do you find this to be lame?
>>284756714He will use the power of love
>>284756016Loki gains claws, we just gotta wait to see his silhouette to confirm if its a wolf or dragon zoan
>>284756484>can't beat this villain>have to learn how to Haki in a special way>in action, it looks the same as always>can't beat this other villain>have to learn how to Haki in a different special wayBoy do I wonder how it's gonna look when Luffy starts using it.
>>284756397Imu can simply use DR on Loki lol
>>284755864>the black shit is CoC energyMindblown
>>284756814its a silhouette
>>284753161So is Zoro but he's still a member
>>284756760This isn't real. Nobody uses the power of love as a superpower.
All you trash talking shit about the Holy Knights are just seething slaves. Barely even human beings. We are NOT jobbers. We're very strong actually.
>>284756814>>284756828it's actually melanin Imu gathered from the lunariansImu is Yakub
>>284756828Silhouettes cant ignore light
This is young Shamrock.Shamrock poisoned Roger. He impersonated Shanks.
>muh hakiwhen was the last time one piece was good? how many years ago?
HAKI CONQUERORS ALL
>>284756906this is one piece
>>284756955Marineford
We need more haki anon
We need less haki anon
>>284752412Wow. First time I'm not sucking Oda's dick. I knew it would be MORE HAKI but it's still disappointing and dumb.
>>284756953If Roger had fucked Gloriosa, he wouldn't have got New World aids.
>>284754739Quit projecting, Random_Kurozumi.There's at least three of us.
Haki…
Haki haters were always rightRemember that>B-b-b-but muh logia intangibility!Self inflicted wound. Oda's bandaid was always worse than the actual problem. He could have asspulled anything else.
>>284754865The UOH UOH no mi
>>284756955One piece was never good
Haki harder
The haki explanation makes no sense as Newgate has CoC yet Maffey didnt die
>>284757111how many kids would they have then?
>hakiless bludmirals seethingMany such cases
I'm really not feeling Elbaf as an arc so far, it's still better than Wano mind you but I guess I had bigger expectations after EggheadRocks was cool and all but other than that eh
>>284757184Newgate didn't haki hard enoughPlease learn to comprehend reading
>>284757108This effectively means they are just Logia 2: The Sequel.Logia: invincible to non-haki attacks except for type weaknessesImu pact: invincible to regular haki attacks, and you need conqueror's instead.My question is this: why wasn't Luffy already hitting the Gorosei with conqueror's haki on Egghead? He already knew how to coat conqueror's haki because of fighting Kaido. Unless the Gorosei are further different and their regen is better than the God's Knights.
>>284756496sex with lilith
>>284756955Haki itself is fine because there had to be some way of getting past logia hax. It's all the advanced stages and whatever that are the problem, especially CoC.Come to think of it, this whole immortality thing is like Oda writing himself into the same corner he originally did with logias and then writing himself out of it the same way. Kizaru could also just shrug off any and all damage the good guys dealt to him. That is until Rayleigh showed up to reveal that there is some sort of a weakness to the ability that he knew of due to his experience. The scene with Sommers and Gaban was basically the same thing with regards to Imu-rtality.
Oda you fucktard how does CoC negate the regen? How you fucking hack???!!!
Haki killed One Piece
>>284757263>Haki itself is fine because there had to be some way of getting past logia haxThe obvious asspull for this was always for logias to not be able to instinctively dodge everything and having some sort of limit to their form altering based on their stamina or something.But no, Oda had to create an asspull of a system that has never resulted in anything good ever and only turned One Piece more generic and boring.
As the flashback ends, we sit here and wonder. What have we actually gained from seeing this dogshit
>>284757263The Abyss regen could have a finite number of regens before needing a cooldown, its an easy to balance regeneration
Haki haters are just loser low tier sebum fruit losers and mad that Roger conquered the grand line without one. Stay mad
man, you anons really hate haki this much? what would you rather prefer then?
>>284756955Thriller Bark.
Why didnt Emmets CoC wave kill Saturn when he reverted to his base which is weaker than Jobflamingo?
>>284757307haki was created to counter imu and the demonsit propagated naturally throughout the world over time since its a trait of humanity
>>284756120How many people in his army have conqueror's haki evenThey're fucked, it's safe to assume Dragon has it but it's not confirmed, the rest can't do shit.
So why didn't ruffy use coc against the elders?
>>284757363Seastone weapons>B-b-b-but Kizaru is as fast as light! How could anyone possibly keep up with him?It's a shonen manga, nigga. They're just that cool.
>>284757363Adventures
Did bluds really think CoC wasn't the solution when Gaban literally said it was earlier? Did you all just think Gaban was lying for some reason?
>>284756955last week
>>284757384Saturns haki is so strong that Luffy cant do shit to him. The GODrosei won
>>284757433lollmao even
>>284757410Remember when oda introduced the light holding gloves in egghead but no one used them against kizaru
Haki you rike?
>>284757410>It's a shonen manga, niggaSame applies with haki. Stop crying little bitches.
Are retards truly surprised that the answer to immortality was CoC? Kek. What the fuck did you expect then? Why complain only now?
>>284757486Haki is boring, though, is the thingThe pre-timeskip power system was a million times better and Oda found a bad solution to a non-problem (that was self-inflicted)
>haki seething >looks inside>admiralfag
>>284757392Haki is a force of nature that predates ningen
My haki is greater than yours
>>284757500>Why complain only now?People have been shitting on haki ever since Rayleigh properly introduced it, newfaggot. Just because you fags hide your head in the sand doesn't mean it didn't happen.>>284757542What makes you think Admirals won't have muh haki? If Oda wants them to be a threat, they'll have it. If he doesn't, they won't. Whether the admirals matter or not is completely irrelevant to haki as a power system.
Ragnir vs Akainu, who wins?
>>284757576Necause Shitmirals are jobbers and wpuld job to Lokis hammer
So if I just jizz CoC on Maffey she wont regen from the hole I just fucked into her torso?
>>284757612Akainu is stronger than Loki and Kaido so obviously he will win.
>>284757615Right, but then they'd be jobbers even if haki didn't exist, is my point. Oda deciding they're jobbers or not is irrelevant to haki as a concept.
why didn't joyboy just wrap christmas presents with haki knots and have santa give them to the celestial dragons?
>>284757612Ragnir mid-high diff
>>284757629Why would you have sex with her in the first place? You must not be attracted to CD women, anon.
>>284757654They would just make them pass out for a day, wouldnt do much
>>284757363Total Logia dominationNature should ruleHackda shouldn't get a pass because he's too dumb to make up inventive ways for Goofy's ugly twink ass to winThe admirals should be the end all be allHaki and zoan spam this late in the storu is shitLoki has been ruined thanks to this shit and that boring fag Imu regen spam
>>284757722>The admirals should be the end all be allI'm so happy admiralfags don't write this story.
>Holy Knights are going to be victims of Jinbe, Brooke and FrankyHilarious, what a group of frauds
>>284757654why didn't joyboy simply show imu his CoC-infused rubber dick?
are we getting raws this week?
>>284757764>CoC-infused cock
>>284757750Not even. They'll be barto, cavendish, etc victims. The non monster trio SHs have approximately one fight left in the series and it's the BB 1v1s
>>284757698but imagine Imu's reaction when they all open their christmas gift at around the same time, he got pretty fucked by the one in eggheadeven if he doesn't die it would be a funny prank
>>284757750Why does that make them frauds exactly? How strong did you even expect them to be?
Serious Harald would solo Marineford
>>284757263>>284757318>>284757348Are complicated weaknesses even very One Piece? Imagine if their regen was a bodily time reverse kind of thing and the way to counter it was to make it even stronger so their body can't change at all and they become paralyzed. It wouldn't feel very BIG PUNCH ONE PIECE STYLE. It would seem like Jojo or HxH. I think it's dumb but when I imagine Gaban explaining some complicated shit to do with observation killing them so they couldn't see their own past state it sounds even more retarded.I still think it would have been cool if the solution was coating your weapons with salt. It would've been kind of vampirish.
>>284757750>hakiletsno
>>284757805There will be no more 1v1 fights in One Piece, the days of Enies Lobby and Alabasta are over
>>284757788Yeah they said
>>284752552>>284752505Here for a hearty Christmas laugh with you fellas.>It's the Nika fruit!>Loki didn't eat any DF, it's just a LARP
>>284757805You're forgetting the fact that Ussop will face against Killingham and Robin/Jimbe will fight Sommers.
>>284757750Oh! So that's why Oda introduced the Revolutionary Army's sub-commanders. It's the fight these weak shitters.
>>284757870Lack of 1v1 has to be my biggest criticism of post timeskip. An absolute blunder.
We're gonna have to make peace with the idea that One Piece despite having devil fruits has a shit combat system and we should enjoy it for the wacky stuff, whimsical charming fantasy aesthetics, and schizo lore and just think of the fights like guy punches guy the end.
>>284757918>despite having devil fruitsdevil fruits are the reason why the fights are so shit in One Piece. Haki was a response to devil fruits being too powerful, then haki became too powerful, so now we have Abyss contracts but those are too powerful, so now haki is more powerful to beat that...it's all one big arms race and it was started by devil fruits
So what happens if Logia user and a HK fight each other with both of them not knowing Haki?
>>284757894>Oh! So that's why Oda introduced the Revolutionary Army's sub-commanders.i guess that tracks since the commanders were fighting the admirals.
I like Haki
>>284757870There's going to be at least one more. If Oda made time in Wano, he'll make time to give everyone one last fight in the final saga.
>>284752412Meh. I can already tell this is a shit chapter and Loki is a big disappointment.
>>284758041wdym Loki was badass as fuck in this chapter, how was he disappointing ?
Haki
>>284752505>>284752552Why does this fanbase get so attached to their own headcanons? I swear the "legendary DF is Nika and Shanks stole it" theory schizo been spamming that for almost 2 years every week
>>284757877it never made sense for it to be the nika fruit, the WG said the fruit itself was evading them, they rebranded it as the gomu gomu fruit, etc. If it was the legendary fruit in elbaph, even when they were isolated and had warrior culture, you would think the WG, marines, god's knights etc would've went all out for itplus loki believes nika is the one who will destroy the world but nika is a religious figure, doesn't necessarily mean he knows there's a nika fruit, he thought rocks was nika and was going to destroy the world, now he says he's the sun god and says he's going to destroy the world
>>284757918oda could easily do more and better fights but he's not a battle autist personally so he doesn't care enoughi am here for the schizo lore though so it's fine
>>284758073He's yet another dragon. Oda already did this shit with momonosuke and kaido. Get some new ideas please.
>>284758073Doomkeky has nothing else anon
>>284758133Seriously? That's your complaint with it? I expected something more meaningful lol.
>>284758016Luffy, zoro and sanji will but the rest of the crew won't have their own fights. They will just be 2v50 on fodder or do something like Wano where its 3v1 just keeping someone busy
>>284752630>FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA, P-
>>284758166The blackbeard fights have been set up for 15+ years now. They'll happen.
>>284758153It's okay, I don't expect odadrones to be sensible either.
What's the coolest Akuma no Mi?
Real and true?
>Oh gosh, this trunk with this insanely powerful devil fruit is locked! How is Loki gonna open it?>Simple! He'll use his ha-key!
>>284758191>falling for the 15 year set up meme
>>284757951>devil fruits are the reason why the fights are so shit in One Piece. Haki was a response to devil fruits being too powerfulIt's a response to logias being unbalanced. Devil fruits are fine. The problem with logias is intangibility is shit either way since it means you either give them a hyper-specific weakness and then everyone needs to know the weakness for that specific logia, or you give them a hyper-general weakness like haki or seastone. Seastone would've been better than haki, but even then you have the issue that Oda gave no early indication that people like Shanks were going around with seastone weapons. It would seem gay if Shanks and Whitebeard could only beat Logias by knowing their weakness, carrying it around, or using seastone, so if they lose their weapon they get owned. It would mess up how Yonkos are supposed to be treated. That would limit the universe and make Logias too powerful. The problem stems from intangibility. If it was just that Logias had to keep their face tangible to think, that would make them powerful but limited.It's not quite as bad as Dragonball yet, but the haki escalation is getting ridiculous. It would have been fine to give the Abyss contracts a hyper-specific weakness at this point to steer things back on cause because the Gorosei and HKs are a special class outside of the fake stalemate of the Yonko vs the Navy, but Oda probably couldn't think of a good one where every character could theoretically access it.
>>284758250>Xebec D. Fraud>relied on Abyss boosts to win against Roger and Garp>Harald is no betterlol
>Loki's haki + raw power was enough to knock the Imu outta Harold for a bitTherefore using fightfag logic, after the flashback, if Luffy punches Gunko and she doesn't come back to her senses temporarily, that means Loki > Luffy.
>>284758293I'd love to hear a list of things you think Oda set up and then never resolved.
>>284758250>whitebeard above Garplmfao dogshit list, when will the Whitebeard glazers learn he's washed up?
So Shanks and Gabans haki is shit compared to Haralds and thats why they got whooped? Is that what spoilers are saying?
>>284758344Imu isn't directly controlling Harald, speedreader
>>284758364Retard.Whitebeard is the WSM. He is stronger than any male character ever and yes that includes Loki.
>>284758344Imu never took control of Harald the same way he did of Gunko, Haralds personality just transformed due to his deep mark
>>284757908>>284757870>>284758016>>284758166>the rest of the crew won't have their own fightsThe thing with that, is that Oda has to come up with a jobber for each crew member to fight with.So maybe it's for the better. Even though, someone like Usopp wouldn't need to exist,if it wasn't for those fights against jobbers.Usopp is like: "yeah I suck, but I still won." That's why I don't like him having observation haki, because time later future sight was introduced and he doesn't have it.
>>284758372Hang yourself zoro faggot
>>284758385Imu was in his fucking brain telling him to submit and Imus power changed his personality. Yes he was, Kizaru.
>>284758409>*Garp, but Loki too and Shanks, Mihawk, Imu, Akainu
Sex between Xebec and Harald
Gengis Khan would be top 1 in One Piece, he had big coc
If I wrote One Piece it would have weird shit like it turns out that the Abyss works by Imu controlling your soul and he can control it on a microscopic level to undo damage, so the only things which can counter it are Gecko Moria's fruit, Big Mom's, Blackbeard's, Brook's soul powers, and Luffy's Gear 5 (because the beat of the liberation drums can move your soul). No one would read it though, because BIG PUNCH is actually more appealing even if we lie to ourselves.
What exactly is the problem with the new movie, it's just a silly non-canon adventure...
>>284758437Total non-sequitur.
>>284758433What? Thats literally what the spoilers said?
>>284758448Xebec isn't homosexual, fuck you.
>>284758409folded to Akainufolded to Blackbeardfolded to lung cancer
*furiously taps sign*
>>284758460No shit no one would read it, I gave up halfway through your post it was just THAT shit
>>284758497Hes homosexual for Harald though
>>284758462>new movie?
How the fuck can you "coat" your punches with willpower (haki)? This shit makes zero sense.
>>284758462what new movie?
>>284758535You gotta admit that it's pretty weird that Gecko Moria controlling people's shadows can control their bodies, and how close this is to souls never has any significance in the story ever again.
>>284758589>he has no willpower
>>284758562No he isn't Xebec is a straight man fuck you. He had hot chicks in his crew and he impregnated a hot chick too.
>>284758462I have no issues with it since I haven't even watched the last 2 or 3. I'm really just curious about what kind of super strong villains they're going to keep asspulling out of nowhere. Maybe former holy knights that somehow managed to defect like Shanks or perhaps people from Joyboy's era?
>>284758614Nah, he was gay as fuck.
>>284757184coc isn't an instawin you dumbass
>>284758431oda farts and 20 unique and colorful jobbers fly out, that's not the issue
>>284758614He was clearly at least bisexual for Harald
Big Mom wasn't kidding. Her and Loki together would have been unstoppable, even more powerful than her and Kaido together.
>>284758672Which Charlotte daughter could produce the best the child if they got impregnated by Loki?
>>284758689Lola.
>>284758614Fucking women doesnt mean you dont like men
>>284758600>>284758586Exactly. It's been announced for a year now.
>>284758705no fuck you xebec is straight just like his son teach
SAY THE LINE, RAGNIR!
>>284758689Smoothie is the only one that could take him
>>284758735Young Harald is pure sex though
>>284758737>SAY THE LINE, RAGNIR!"Loki is a DF Merchant!"
>>284758719It's clear that the next movie HAS to be a big deal with all the most recent success from other franchises like Chainsaw Man. I won't be surprised if it's going to be the first canon movie since Strong World in 2010.
>>284758737>I can mid diff any admiral...
>>284758689>The Charlotte daughters watching their sister go into the bedroom to produce children with a giant
>>284757263>the good guys
>>284757972Depending on the logia, they win. Hard to do anything as a HK if you're continuously on fire or frozen or burning/melting/crushed
>>284758810Or it could be another Stampede.
>>284758911They don't win, this shit won't affect them at all>>284757972If anything the Regen merchants win against the logia merchants because it's implied they get a boost in their halo through Imu, so they probably get haki even if they don't have it already. If not, it's a draw
>>284758911>>284758999Very powerful admiral level logia could more easily ring out the HK and put them in the sea than the reverse.
>>284759130The sea doesn't affect a fruitless HK like Garling anon, it does affect a logia user though. Same with seastone.Thanks for reminding me that, so HKs actually do have a win condition against logia users, while the opposite doesn't apply.
>>284758250Garp 100% above WB
>>284758810>since Strong WorldThat movie isn't canon anon...
>>284758250Any list that doesn't have Garp and Roger on the same # or tier is trash
>>284758689Smoothie her strongest daughter
>>284758737That's nuts
>>284752412>Loki gets a big-ass blunt weapon with lightning>Loki gets a Zoan fruitIf this turns out to be Nidhogg (a dragon) instead of something like Fenrir, Loki really is just a better, more interesting Kaido.
>>284760704There's nothing interesting about Loki. Rocks, Harald and even the shit was Imu were the only points of interest for this furryshit. Kaido wasn't even a damn character, so being better than a meme is laughable.
>>284756955unc haki saved one piece. before it was goofy and shit but now it's straight up aura farming and rizz
>Loki must eat the DF to beat immortal HaraldOkay, don't like it but okay.>Gaban tells us that's all bullshit and haki is all that mattersThen what was the point of the DF???
>>284753534Didn't the HK tried to take both on Garling's back? Garling might not know of these attacks
>>284761134Spee D Reader...
>>284761217Speed is relative. This manga is so fucking glacial that it's impossible NOT to speed read it.