>gender bender anime>the MC sticks with his girlfriend Why is this so rare? I feel that in most cases they inexplicably start craving cock.
>Don't worry Akane, we can sleep together if we are both girls
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>>284764423Because it was written by a woman, not an agp pervert.
>>284764423Well Ranma can freely switch so its not like it matters that much, if its a guy that gets turned to a girl forever its more complicated
>>284764483>>284764519
>>284764635
>>284764423He can always stay with his girlfriend and crave her futacock
>>284764663Cute
>>284764423Not his gf, you retard
>>284765191That's right, his fiancee
>>284764423>inexplicably start craving cock.He became a woman, the hormones change his brain chemistry and sexual orientation
>>284765811>hormones change his brain chemistry and sexual orientationThis nonsense that troons use to justify their sodomy has nothing to do with reality. Hormones don't change orientation.
>>284766868Pretty sure it's been proven that too much estrogen makes youba fag
>>284764423It happens
>>284764423>Why is this so rare?Give me one example where this doesn't happen outside of porn
>>284766919No. If that were the case, we would have cured homosexuality long ago.
>>284767332Boku Girl
>>284764423Is the reboot worth watching or should i ignore it
>>284767352>research suggests prenatal hormone levels (like estrogen and testosterone) and genetic/epigenetic factors during fetal development play a role in shaping sexual orientation, influencing brain development before birthObviously a GB guy doesn't go through fetal development again, but since it's effectively a brand new female brain we can assume estrogens now determine the normal sexual orientation
>>284767482Do you want an adaption more faithful to the manga, albeit censored?
>>284764423>inexplicablyIf they turn into a female body that comes with having female hormones that dictate their craving for dicks.
>>284767482It is too censored, they mixed multiple chapters onto one episode, the worst offender being Happosai which had 6 manga chapters mashed onto one in the remake, they also changed last week's episode to be more emotional and less comedic than the manga, they not only censored the nudity, they changed the dialogue as well for example they changed "Do you call yourself a man", to "Do you call yourself my son", they removed the word China, they censored the red star hat, they removed the alcohol and so on they also added 2 anime original characters (a cameraman and a reporter) who explain all the fights and basically took the role of various one off girls from the manga and the 1989 anime
>>284767757Shampoo and Ukyo liked what they saw
>>284767757Original uncensored is ultimately better but Akane being taller in the remake version was hotter
>>284767952True, it's good that they're more consistent with the height difference
>>284764423That isekai blond shark teeth girl is the only anime where the MC wants a guy in the ENTIRE HISTORY of anime
>>284767757>>284767940Yuri is the purest form of love
>>284768316t. Satanist
>>284768316Yeh
Of course he'd want a dick, lesbian "sex" is the saddest thing ever
>>284764585/threadPlus it helps that Ranma has like no real guy friends either.
>>284768841Speaking from experience, sis?
>>284768841Just use strap ons?
>>284768469Those 2 were the best part of that show
>>284764423should have gone like this
because you are your body. when your physical form and your hormones change your desires and responses to stimuli change along with them>man, woman, appearance. those things don't really matteris complete and utter horseshit
>>284770063This is why female Ranma would inevitably end up with Kuno in a scenario in which she lost her male form or outside circumstances prevented her from changing back for a long enough time
>>284765811>"I don't think about that and neither should you" - Rumiko Takahshi
>>284769335>go with a girl to avoid dick>make her put a fake dick on and larp as a man anywaysSad. Truly sad.
>>284764585yeah it's not really like it matters
>>284770063Yes that's why men who love men and women who love women don't exist.
>>284764423What did anons think of this remake-original scene? I feel like Akane *would* monologue this...but only after they were married.
>>284775611They exist but would those men still love men and those women still love women if those men became women and those women became men?
>>284764423All this stuff does is make me wonder which romances in fiction would be capable of surviving if the male character was turned into a woman, whether from birth or from shenanigans.Manga seems to be the easiest since I struggle to think of which romances would fall apart if the dude was stuck as a woman for the rest of his life.
>>284775611This all boils down to whether you are born gay because that's what your body likes or you choose to be gay because it's all in the mind.
>>284776019Even as someone who's fairly liberal and doesn't mind reading/viewing fan content of Ranma being genderfluid or deciding to live as a girl or whatever, I think it feels like obvious pandering to a modern-day progressive audience.It always feels like a shame to me when the remake tries to tone down/update stuff from the original that could be seen as offensive now, especially the stuff related to gender since it's kind of the point of the series, and also since the remake went out of its way to be like "this show is set in the '80s! it's a story about the past! all these events happened already 40 years ago!" (I think it would've been pretty interesting to just adapt the chapters without including/referencing a specific date, and let different people in the audience assume what they want about it. Could be pretty fun to have older people familiar with the original assuming it's set in the same time the manga chapters were released, and younger people watching for the first time assuming it's modern. Like the show's holding a mirror up to people's own assumptions kinda)I get some people get annoyed because at its core Ranma as a series is kind of ultimately reinforcing a het pairing/stereotypes (Ranma wants to be purely male even by the end, Akane seems to want to be more of a stereotypical woman as the series progresses) and Rumiko doesn't seem to have been going for "actually it's yuri" or whatever, but even the gender stereotypes in the original are still kind of presented from an angle of like "isn't it weird that things are like this?" though, like even though it's ultimately reinforcing stereotypes it still feels playful with/critical of them in an interesting way
>>284766919>Pretty sure it's been proven that too much estrogen makes youba fagThis has not been proven
>>284767892>the worst offender being Happosai which had 6 manga chapters mashed onto one in the remakeThat's a good thing. It means we get to see less of him.
>>284764423Rumiko did the gender bending gimmick because she wanted to explore Ryuunosuke's brain problems as a main character. Other writers do the gender bending gimmick because they have a fetish.>>284776293Modern gender opinions notwithstanding, the stories where it's a pain to get goods wouldn't work in a contemporary context thanks to the Internet. You kind of have to date it since it's naturally dated.
>>284777330>the stories where it's a pain to get goods wouldn't work in a contemporary context thanks to the InternetAre there that many of those? Serious question, I mean obviously there are plot points about obtaining Jusenkyo-related items but I think those being hard to get makes sense no matter when the story's set because they're from a mystical place that doesn't seem well known outside of obscure communities in the wilderness in China. There's probably other stuff I'm forgetting though
>>284764423Ranma wasn't a fettish anime. Most others are--and guys to want to be girls mostly are secretly gay
>>284776209It's easy, is the girl a latent bisexual?
>>284764423People are inmherently opposed to the wrongness of homosex?
>>284776293>reinforcing a het pairing/stereotypesAs opposed to what? Make everyone gay?
>>284776293Dunno about Akane but Ranma definitely got more accepting and comfortable with his female side during the series
>>284780185Yeah
>>284767671No filler, but censoring and skipping past stuff isn't more faithful. It cuts so many impactful, little moments.
>>284764423>the MC sticks with his girlfriendBecause Akane is a sweetheart and the most level headed girl from the cast.She understands the curse is a problem for Ranma so she makes it easier for him.She also helps him try to get rid of it.
>>284780830You clearly don't remember how much shit the old anime made up
>>284764423>inexplicablyFemale body means female brain and female emotions. It's not that hard to understand.
>>284764423Rumiko stated that she didn't want to explore themes of sexual awakening, unlike most manga with this idea.
>>284781988Nabiki would make him pay.Even Happosai knows not to cross Kasumi.
>>284776019In context, it isn't about sex. After all, she wasn't implying that Mousse wanted to fuck Shampoo as a duck. But it isn't OOC for me as a thought. She just enjoys being around Ranma in both forms and that is obviously true. Akane is less tsundere in her mind as a general rule too.
>>284784008It this was made today there would be much more yuribait
>>284780185I tried to explain what I meant by the part in parentheses, that ultimately both characters want to act as is stereotypical for their gender when some fans would want them to be more gender nonconforming or Akane to openly be with female Ranma or whatever.
>>284766939The Breast Expansion Arch should have been permanent
>>284764562>written by a bitter femcel with no kids
>>284764423It was a full on harem. Not the typical story where the MC's best friend slowly falls for her now and MC becomes more girly through the series.
>>284776293
>>284786887I know it's hard to miss but I specifically said I think they should've tried to adapt the manga lines/themes accurately and not changed lines even if people might find them "outdated" todayI talked about western fan reactions because I am someone in touch with the Ranma fandom outside of /a/, which is generally more into gender shit, but I didn't actually say EVERY CHARACTER SHOULD BE TRANS
>>284783576source?
>>284786887Literally what
>>284776293What I mean is that, especially for old anime, new concepts forced by American degenerates such as “genderfluid” are completely foreign to the mindset and should not be applied here.
>>284784059>Akane is less tsundere in her mind as a general rule too.She is? My issue is that I can't see her departing from the "everything weird about Ranma is annoying" tsun line.
>>284776293(yeah I know this is the setup for a joke, but that doesn't make it not true)
>>284764423Because the author is a self-inserter.>>284773404The last arc was about locking animals into female human form for the sole purpose of making babies.
>>284789337Last arc was the phoenix one. Moxibustion was quite a bit before that
>>284789337How are the chances that we'll get the Yoiko chapters animated? One of the funniest stories.
>>284789902Nothing "modern viewer unfriendly" in that arc at least, right?
>>284789902Now that they've started rearranging arc order it's kind of hard to tell for now what they're actually skipping.Anyone got that copypasta of which arcs they've skipped up to now?
>>284791072Not counting the Breaking Point, which we WOULD have had if Mappa 1/2 had stuck to the manga's chronology and which we're getting as the first arc of season 3, Mappa has skipped...>Martial Arts Tea Ceremony>Japanese Nanniichuan>Akane vs. Kodachi: Cookie Battle>Amazon Love PillsThey also cut out one of the one-chapter sub-stories that are technically part of the Happosai's Intro arc, the Bathhouse Battle story, which has Ranma being forced to chaperone Happosai at a public bath and chaos ensuing.
>>284791634>cutting 30% of Kodachi's screentimeUnforgivable if they don't come back to itAlso goddamn the new captcha is unbearable
>>284791634Ironically this list makes it look like they skip arcs dedicated more to romantic shenanigans than martial arts
>>284767892>>284768469
>>284764663So cozy
>>284788780She tends to be pretty clear in her thoughts unless she's mad as hell.
>>284786940>someone in touch with the Ranma fandom outside of /a/, which is generally more into gender shit,I don't understand how someone can be into gender shit and yet want it censored
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>>284764423>>the MC sticks with his girlfriendi think we watches a diferent version because in mine NOTHING EVER HAPPENED
>man, woman, appearance>those things don't really matter
>>284795154Me or the fans? Because I don't want Ranma to be censored personally, even though I get the wall of text I posted probably distorted my point a littleAs for the fans, it's that they want a current Ranma adaptation to match like, current woke gender theory talking points, or something. Like no one can be homophobic or imply that girls/boys do or should act a certain way (even fictional characters in a work explicitly set ~40 years ago); the politics of the show have to perfectly match the average woke millennial or zoomer (maybe even Gen Alpha at this point? IDK) who'd write trans lesbian Ranma + Akane fanfic on AO3.It's kinda like how current nu Ranma fans are now raging about the dub of the old show from 30 years ago having a white woman voicing Shampoo, while conveniently ignoring that the Japanese original still has a non-Chinese woman voicing her, so that portrayal isn't and has never been culturally accurate either. Like hyperfocusing on trying to be woke when the original work never really aimed for that in the first place
>>284795451The fans you mentioned, yeah.>white people aren't allowed to speak ChineseYeah, that's literally fucking racist. Wokefags are the worst. The current Netflix dub Shampoo VA speaks Chinese with a comically shit accent, but I guess they're okay with that since her VA seems to be of Asian descent and as long as nonwhites stay in their ghetto they're happy, I guess.
>>284795308>posting 3DPD
>>284795254Ranma was in love with Akane from the start so I guess you're right, nothing changed
>>284795194That's male Ranma's face on female Ranma's body
>>284795194
>>284795451>As for the fans, it's that they want a current Ranma adaptation to match like, current woke gender theory talking points, or something. Like no one can be homophobic or imply that girls/boys do or should act a certain way (even fictional characters in a work explicitly set ~40 years ago); the politics of the show have to perfectly match the average woke millennial or zoomer (maybe even Gen Alpha at this point? IDK) who'd write trans lesbian Ranma + Akane fanfic on AO3.Aside from the fact that normalfags can't even agree among themselves what the current gender talking points are, you'd think people who try so hard to conform to their own culture would realize you can't just flip the culture the characters live in without having to change the characters themselves. I mean, drop Ranma into a woke zoomer discord and he wouldn't act like he does in canon. I'm not sure how he'd act. Sudoku?
>>284764663Married!
>>284767952This. Yuri size difference is underrated. I never IMAGINEd the bathroom scenes (not even the Ryoga hair pulling one) until the first panel here >>284768020
>>284789902Hopefully they stop hating RanRyo by then
>>284776293100% agree with those last two paragraphs, nice.But at the same time, I guess if this censorship cancer has to spread to Japan, I'd rather have it happen to Ranma 1/2 than some other series where it would really butcher the plot. Don't get me wrong, the setting-appropriate gender roles *are* necessary for some plot elements in the same way that, say, the series being set in Japan is necessary so we can have dojos and kendo. But at the same time Rumiko clearly wasn't really trying to make a point or exploration of gender roles, so it's tangential in that way, and it seems like she plays fast and loose with gender attitudes as the plot demands. Like early on when Akane is trying to keep the engagement a secret she brings up people potentially thinking she's a pervert for being engaged to a genderbender, but once the plot moves past the secret-engagement bit that all poofs away and no one at Furinkan gives a shit about Akane being engaged to a half-girl.
>>284789902Not great. It's a 1 episode story that doesn't really contribute anything major, and Mappa only has a small number of episode slots per season. They're pushing to get as deep into the manga as they can as quickly as they can, they're more than likely to ditch as many 3 or fewer chapter stories as they can get away with.
>>284798147My waifu
>>284800953If getting through the manga requires sacrificing soul, is it worth it?Well, can always hopium for OVAs.
>>284800953Counterpoint: animating the Yoiko arc would mean they'd have a reason to make Yoiko merch.
>>284781988Kasumi? The strongest.
>>284658425Male Ranma's falsetto in this scene was surprisingly cute in the remake, did the og anime do the same?
>>284789902I actually think they'll adapt Yoiko purely as a means of kinda flexing on the '89 anime. While the anime adapted most manga stories up to the point it ended in some form or another (yeah obviously people can call it out for not always adapting them completely accurately, but the attempts at adaptation are still obvious), Yoiko was one of the few exclusions and one that people pointed to a lot in criticizing the older anime. Even before the new anime existed, Yoiko was kind of used as a symbol of the '89 anime being imperfect, in that she represents an arc being skipped for no apparent reason.Having Yoiko around in like advertisements/maybe even merch would kind of be a means of being like "see? OUR adaptation covers everything" (even though that might not be accurate if they never return to the arcs they already skipped)
>>284802530>that people pointed to a lot in criticizing the older animejapanese people or westoids?
>>284802570Both probably? I never looked up Japanese comments on Yoiko specifically because it isn't one of the arcs I personally care much about, but I can't imagine people weren't wondering why it didn't get adapted since it's pretty popular to draw Ranma as Yoiko. The fact that it's one of maybe 2 arcs that didn't get adapted at all makes it stand out more.On the western side, I remember /a/ talking about it a few times in the year or so before the remake was announced, like people who like the original anime arguing with manga purists who were like "yeah but what about Yoiko"
>>284802633>maybe 2 arcs that didn't get adapted at allAnd if this isn't already clear I mean at the time. Like by the time the anime ended, this was a rare manga arc within the range of chapters the anime's run covered that had been skipped over completely.
>>284796111>Ranma was in love with Akane from the startBiggest lie ITT
>>284781050>She also helps him try to get rid of it.She holds the cure hostage to extort Ranma into wedding her at the end, a scheme ruined by Happosai. She's as petty as every other bitch in this series.
>>284780396He never stops looking for a way to get rid of the curse. Try reading the series before posting headcanons.
>>284802516What's a falsetto
So, is X still trying to make the Blasian Shampoo meme a thing?
because Rumiko Takahashi wrote what is essentially a Shoujo / Otome manga, but because she, like herself said, is such a huge fan of men mangas and struggles with writing romance ( possibly due to loneliness and internalized misogyny), she wanted to appeal to men and not women.Look at examples like Princess Army, at least in Shoujos the romance is better written.
>>284764423>new anime feels good retard fillerreminder in the original she is as homophobic as it gets.
>>284767482I've been really enjoying it so far. The remake is way more accurate to the manga than the original was which is mostly good, but imo it's also less cozy. The music is a definite downgrade too. It's not a replacement for watching the original but probably a great way to get someone new into the series. I'm mostly just happy to see more Ranma though desu.There is some censorship unfortunately, so if you were just watching for the nipples then you're gonna be disappointed. Also a couple funny bits got cut which sucks but it was honestly nothing major.
>>284795154>I don't understand how someone can be into gender shit and yet want it censoredyeah seriously, trve gender shit fans can appreciate a product of it's time
>>284768107season 2 when?
>>284804409Please don't spoil me anon. I haven't read the manga.I am happy to see there is more development than on the OG anime though.
>>284775104I know basic biology is not a popular thing around those parts, but stimulating the clitoris and vagina's nerves to reach orgasm and "craving a man" are two different things, anon.What do you say of girls that get off with vibrators? Do they crave aliens that can tremble at high speeds? Because I've never seen a man do that.
>>284780830>It cuts so many impactful, little momentsSuch as what?Did they skip any particularly important one?
>>284783576The hair is a downgrade.Also, who says she's going to grow much more after 16?
>>284805344No she isn't. When she thinks Ranma is about to kiss her in female form her only objection is "People are watching!"
>>284791072>>284791634You can check here. It's updated.https://ranma.fandom.com/wiki/Story_Arcs
>>284802174>Well, can always hopium for OVAs.Do OVAs exist in modern series?
>>284806749In anime logic kids keep growing gradually until they're adults, and sometimes even after that. Her older sisters are taller so she'll probably at least reach them.
>>284805954See, you don't get based scenes like this if the MC has nothing to cope with. is it canon?
>>284775104>go with a girl to avoid dick>go to the emergency room with carrots, cucumbers, shovel handles, broomsticks, and beer bottles stuck up the ass >because using a fake silicone dick was too faggyStraightfags are sadder
>>284764562basically
>>284777330Speaking of Ryuunosuke and since there hasn't been a UY thread in a while, I found out the Urusei Yatsura remake changed pic related (Nagisa flashing his flat tits to Ryuunosuke) into Ryuunosuke forcibly lifting Nagisa's shirt up.What's the logic there? Isn't the "censorship" making it more rapey?
>>284764562>God I would be such a slut if I were a womanThis is how you sound like. You can just suck dick as a man btw.
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>>284767482
>>284808487Can you read? Anon clearly said women are the ones who DON'T write about craving cock.
>>284809768No, he fucking didn't. Can (you) read? Why would horny men think about getting railed? Or women think of lesbian sex?
>>284808534Cute
>>284810195Have a basic comprehension lesson:>Q: Why is this so rare? I feel that in most cases they inexplicably start craving cock.These second sentence says that in "MOST cases" the genderbender mc starts craving cock. Thus, the first sentence referring to "THIS" "RARE" case means that that Ranma 1/2 is a RARE exception where the mc DIDN'T start craving cock. The questioner is asking why Ranma 1/2 is the exception.>A: Because it was written by a woman, not an agp pervert.The answerer is saying "the MC (Ranma) didn't start craving cock because this manga was written by a woman (Takahashi)".
>>284810721You are retarded and can't fucking interpret what people say. AGP means attraction to feminine self, a common argument against transgender lesbians. I rest my case.
>>284810884YOU either couldn't read what OP said or lied about it. That's all the """"interpretation"""" I'm doing.
>>284808943Maybe I'm blind, but what's the big difference?
>>284813089The clips are both kind of overly long, but I think the biggest differences are>OG anime has more movement in the "action" part around the 10-second mark or so, when Ranma's holding Akane>remake seems to have done a lot of closeups of characters' faces while OG played around with shots/angles a bit more
>>284813276I said "10 second mark" but looking back what I actually meant was "first 10 seconds"
>I used to be trolled but I found out a way to stop it. I do all kinds of stupid and gay shit. they cant troll you if you dress up as a girl and kiss them. I dont like doing it but it works
>>284806860>classic Mousse was the same height as Ranma and Ryoga>Remake Mousse absolutely towers over Ranma>Shampoo still prefers Ranma's manlet assTall bros...
>>284806698>Do they crave aliens that can tremble at high speeds?Why are you denying the existence of heterosexual female Kinnikuman fans?
>Has good friend who's a girl>Likes another popular girl in class>Gets genderbent>Girl who wouldn't give him the time of day before is now into him>Girl who was into him and his friend before now conflicted.Go give Kashimashi a shot OP. On the plus side, if you don't really like it it's only 3 DISCS so it's not very long.
>>284813276Oh I see it now, OG is more creative with shots and angles for sure. The remake really isn't that shabby though, and the richer background detail helps fill it out visually.
>>284813882Not him, but I didn't like it because it felt like the most bland and boring of SoL romances despite the genderbend which should have been interesting.
>>284815094It's a somewhat bare-bones, I can admit that. It's still got a special place in my heart though, being one of the first shows I watched that REALLY felt shojou-esque.
>>284764423Was this line actually in the original manga or was it a mandate add-on by Wokeflix?
>>284815661>Was this line actually in the original manga No, whole scene is remake-original. Storytime for comparison >>284658283 >or was it a mandate add-on by Wokeflix?Doubt it. Does Netflix have any creative control?
>>284764562>Rumiko >not an AGP pervertThe entire series is an exercise in force-feminizing Ranma and his girl form is also the one that gets the most fanservice and whores herself out the most.I wouldn’t be surprised if Rumiko “herself” is really just an AGP tranny posing as a cis woman and that’s why “she” never married.
>>284816408Genuine question, do you ever stop being a pissy faggot about genderbent stuff?
>>284816647What about that comment implies anon is pissed? Stop projecting.
>>284815661It's Mappa original. Like Ranma not being pissed at Ryoga insulting his "girly" behavior in their first duel. Although in this case, it may be an attempt to preemptively soften the blow for how the series canonically ends with Ranma failing to get cured or married.
>>284816993>Ranma not being pissed at Ryoga insulting his "girly" behavior in their first duel.Ryoga telling Ranma to stop being such a girl when Ranma got pissed at having his shirt torn stayed, only the dub censored it.Ryoga's "okama" to Ranma in the ice rink duel got cut, though.
>>284817122They actually redubbed that line back to something closer to the original Japanese, apparently after fans were obviously complaining about it. I don't think there's a comprehensive list of what other lines, if any, got redubbed too.
>>284817421Huh. Small victories I guess>>284816408Why would anyone not like forced feminization, regardless of gender or sexuality? You get the best of both worlds.
>>284816647A series that was actually normal about gender-bending wouldn’t have most of its fanservice centered on the tranny. Tranny fanservice and the force-feminization of an extremely masculine man like Ranma originally was is peak AGP mentality.
>>284818196>A series that was actually normal about gender-bendingLike a series where genderbending is just part of the worldbuilding and everyone switches genders and no one gives a fuck? I think Simoun might fit the bill but it wouldn't make a good sitcom.
>>284764423This line is extremely OOC for Akane, she’s a conservative TERF who wants to conversion therapy Tsubasa out of being a lesbian and thinks Ranma’s a freak and a pervert for having a tranny curse…
>>284819726Do newzoomers actually believe this
>>284818734>Like a series where genderbending is just part of the worldbuilding and everyone switches genders and no one gives a fuck?No a series that doesn’t fetishize the fuck out of it’s gender-bending main character and make them fapbait like Ranma does.
>>284819853Akane literally calls Ranma a pervert just because he can transform into a girl.
>>284764423>Censored wokeslop version of RanmaWhy is /a/ still giving this pozzed remake the time of day?
Are the Ranma fillers worth watching? Most of them follow the same formula of ‘Happosai causes a conflict, and Ranma and friends solve it in one episode.’
>>284823058a couple of them are fun and/or interesting
>>284813882mid
>>284808534
>>284824340Ranma pleases old men for money
>>284807311yes
>>284824340There's no heterosexual explanation for this
>>284820179I doubt any other genderbender can be as alpha as hot as Ranma, so that's all of them then.
>>284821181And? People like us got called perverts all day for liking yuri or yaoi, and that was by kids who were pro gay marriage.
>>284767757Ranma is officially yuri now.
>>284825458>that look downToo relatable Except Akane doesn't seem to have any shame about it for some reason
>>284824836it's called being an iron-willed martial arts master, you wouldn't get it...
