Why can't the anime industry make long runners anymore?
>>284786499It's the result of Japan being westernized and animators getting "human rights"
>>284786517>>284786538kys
They realized indentured servitude is wrong and decided animators shouldn't be as abused and exploited
>>284786499Why does Toei even bother making this shit instead of more Precure?
>>284786499Why the fuck did they put a fucking ai luffy there? Twitter and tiktok anime "fans" are retarded
>>284786499if it means less filler then i'll take it
>>284786499The animes always catch up to the manga it's a flawed design
>>284786538I don't think current animators have labor unions anon. The fault is probably in something else and less cartoonish.
>>284786517>>284786538I can't decide whether FPBP or SPBP
>>284786572Third-worlders love AI. Corporations love AI. Thus it's inevitable. Enjoy the new reality
>>284786499But isn't the gap between Egghead and Elbaph a good place for a filler arc?
>>284786618Ai is based and heterosexual, ghetto art is for furries and faggots
>>284786582Nobody is forcing you to watch filler
>>284786651good morning saar
>>284786606they may not have unions but you can't just lock animators inside the studio until the episode is done anymore
>Ai is based
>>284786499They never did, the animation wuality of long runners is shit.
>>284786797When right wingers say "based" they mean account based in india
>>284786499>can'tThey don't want to.
>>284786582>if it means less fillerThe whole story is basically 90% filler. Oda's initial plan was to finish in 5 years.
>>284786651Only talentless faggots who've never created anything in their life can support ai.
>>284786948Programmers love ai, so do real artists. It's just a tool. Talentless twitter faggots hate ai because their work is so mediocre a machine can easily replace them
>>284786651I always get this strong vibe that these kinds of posts are made from bots with how much of a non-sequitur they are
>>284787183"Real artists" lol. You're not a rea artist if all you're doing is writing prompts. Having a computer make your art is the most faggot thing imaginable.
>>284786499Cuckolds will keep paying the same amount anyways.It's always paypigs to blame.
>>2847864991. Oda is weak and can only do 2.5 chapters a month now. 2. Standards for shonen adaptions are higher which means doing the bare minimum isn't okay.
>>284787479>slop, made AI :/>slop, made by human :0Artists love ai because it exposes the talentless hacks as what they are. All the great original works will receive even more recognition because the human mediocre slop gets drowned out by AI
>>284786829Kys poojeet
demonslayer showed the Japanese that viewers want quality over quantity now.
>>284786582>fillerIsn't that literally 99% of the story?
>>284787675>Standards for shonen adaptions are higherlmao
>>284786624The straw hats are too infamous at this point to get up to meaningless filler antics and struggle against filler villains. The cover stories would be a good choice for canon material to adapt, but apparently the executives are afraid of toddlers switching to another channel if the straw hats aren't on screen often enough.
>>284787675>Standards for shonen adaptions are higherYou can literally get away with a bad production with spastic visuals and zoomies will say its "aura" and "peak". Look at how people turned their opinion of OPM S3 around with an average looking episode just because it had that.
You act as if 12 or 13 episodes hasn't been the norm for 20 years at this point. There's always been exceptions and there still are but unless you're a little kids' anime the chances of getting more than 12 episodes at a time is pretty slim. Most anime in the past was primetime too so you could argue it was the same back then. The OVAs that were more what we get for late night anime now tended to be 13 episodes or less as well, with many of them being half that or less.
only, toys anime and toddler anime do (bayblade pkmn, doraemon, precure etc.)
>>284786499>Why can't the anime industry make long runners anymore?you won't believe this but people realized all long-running shonen are becoming DBZ energy ball throwing with flying inter-dimensional beings Nika-Nika God Fruit users so they're not buying it anymore
>>284788420This is delusional. If anything shit is going more in that direction and shonenfags are slurping it up. The flashing lights bullshit in One Piece is added for the anime and not something in the manga. It's purely for the edification of braindead anime watchers.
good, one piece anime has been shit since time skip
>>284786499That sounds like a Toei problem
>>284786499Why do you want long runners to continue exactly? What exactly is the benefit to them? In the long run, all people end up doing is complaining about how extended they are or how long they are
>>284788442you are the delusional one. try telling someone to watch 1000 episodes of one piece when they already know he's the son god fruit luffy and they still don't know what the treasure is
>>284788512>>284788512>Why do you want long runners to continue exactly?Because the alternative is waiting 6 years for 12 episodes of shit
>>284788521None of that matters to the worst kinds of anime watchers as they just want to be involved in the big thing and don't actually care about the series besides hype moments. Younger people are always newly starting the series. And Wano always ends up being their favorite arc.
>>284788548Because as we all know, long-runners were known for their consistent animation quality through the entire run
>>284786499Because long runner has always been a dog shit format. If you're an actual fan of a series then you'd prefer it be split into seasons which (hopefully) would mean higher quality art and animation compared to long runners where the show looks like low budget trash 70% of the time and only looks decent for climactic fights. That's not even going into filler arcs either. The only reason you would like long runner is if you're an impatient retard that just wants to mindlessly consume without caring about quality.
>>284786499Anyone that has watched the One Piece anime after Enies Lobby knows that this should've been done a long time ago, the 1 to 1 pace has been the anime biggest problem for almost 2 decades
>>284788598So you would rather wait years for the same shit as oppose to weekly?
>>284788548You're using One Punch Man S3 as some negative against split seasons, meanwhile if OPM was a long runner it would have looked S3 for the entire show instead of just one season.
>>284788609>wait for more seasons>they never come
>>284788667Better to never come rather then consume lower quality. Same with seasonal format if it's mismanaged, I would rather not have season 3 of OPM at all with the quality we got
Because nobody watches tv anymore, look jp tv ratings, all get low numbers now only hobby anime like pokemon have it because they sell merchandise, videogames and shit and its not based on manga
>>284788799The issue is that you see it as a dichotomy. There is no law saying new content is going to be low quality. And the fact that everyone here is acting like a 50 episode anime is going to be low quality for most of it is delusional and shows you guys likely haven't bothered watching much. It's justification for not getting more of what you like, just because you assume it's going to suck. It's mostly shonenshit that gets treated this way anyway. Try watching something actually good and you probably wouldn't get studios half assing shit.
>>284788637The point is that story would progress faster instead of being half a chapter of content surrounded by filler
>>284788598NTA, but yes? DBZ, Yu Yu Hakusho, HxH, Bleach all have consistent quality. One Punch Man season 3 on the other hand is atrocious.
>>284788176this is objectively true, everyone expects everything to look like Demon Slayer or JJK now, if you have Sakadays animation (which was still good) everyone makes fun of you, unlike back in the day where you could have 10 episodes in a row that looked like dog water and no one would have cared, "sakuga" was only expected in big moments>>284788339every is still making fun of OPM S3, idk what youre talking about
>>284788837And what do they watch if not tv? Netflix?
>>284786499>why don't they stretch single panels into half an episode
>>284792832>non sequitur
>>284786499Declining birth rates means less exploitable labor.
Studios would rather take in multiple projects than stretch out one project every week because it's an better use of resources, its that simple.
>>284786538That's an excuse some old Japanese guys in the industry have actually made.But they aren't right. The real problem is the logistics of outsourcing to 5000 different independent contractors and studios.Anime is so outsourced (here I mean both Japanese and Foreign animators that aren't in the studio ever these days) that what they originally started outsourcing for in the first place, to save time by having more hands doing the work, is ironically the bottleneck slowing things down. Because everyone who does contract work in anime is now spoken for at least a year in advance. So everyone making an anime has to line up the labor 1 year from when they're planning the show. So if you want to do a year long show you have to find:Japanese freelancersForeign freelancersJapanese subcontract studiosForeign subcontract studiosThat are all available for you to use for one year. That doesn't happen. Everyone's spoken for at least for 1 season out of the year. You can't line these ducks up in a row. So what do Production Committees do? They can wait 2 years for everyone to be ready to work for them at the same time, or they can make shorter anime to try to fit every party's schedule. Anime is overwhelmingly choosing to do the latter. That's why things are the way they are now.
>>284786499Longer runners existed for tv ratings, but nowadays most studios are betting on streaming or international distribution rather than just tv ratings.Note One Piece's Japanese tv ratings fell a lot in the last decade, which is why they're dropping the format now (meanwhile Detective Conan remained mostly stable in comparison so it continues with weekly filler cases).
>>284788290>but apparently the executives are afraid of toddlers switching to another channel if the straw hats aren't on screen often enough.Don't the many long flashback arcs without any Strawhats in sight prove that's an unfounded fear?
if you want a lower-quality adaptation that has more mass produced content why not just watch the toei anime?
>>284789288>DBZInfamously had a ratio of one good looking episode to every 10-15 bad looking ones. Go rewatch Trunks vs Freeza and then go to the next episode where the same kill shot is recreated but Trunks looks like he has several dislocated bones.>Yu Yu HakushoUnique circumstances, but was also a slideshow a good chunk of the time.>HxHThe 1999 anime just looked fucking bad, so I hope you don't mean that one.And the 2011 anime was a slideshow that also looked bad for the majority of its run, and then became a slideshow that looked alright until the last 20 episodes where it started to have consistently good animation.>BleachI don't even know what you're getting at here, Bleach barely had animation.
>>284787881Sometimes something just isn't true, but it's do far from reality there's nothing to reflect it back. In theses cases calling for pity evidence is required. Do you have anything at all to back that up?
>>284794249Bleach anime was hard carried by its OST and occasionally, style. Animation wise it was on par with naruto's when it came to only the serious fights or moments only getting good animation and being a slide show outside that.
