Are you excited to watch 11 episodes of One Piece every 3.5 years?
>>284788572Gotouge mindbroke odaKimetsu no yaiba mindbroke one piece
What a mess of a franchise
Yes, they should have immediately done this after the timeskip.
>>284788572The pace will keep being shit since production already begun and they probably still didn't have a lot of chapters to cover from Elbaph
>>284788572>No guarantee of no filler episodes>Third season OPM shitshow recentlyThey are gonna fumble the bag so fucking hard with this one.
I haven't watched the One Piece anime since like 2010.
>>284788588FPBP/thread
kill toei
>SLOW PIECE xD
lolRemind me, what other long runners still remain? Conan?
It's actually way worse. We will be getting 26 episodes a year usually paced at one chapter per episode. Basically almost nothing has changed
>>284788572They said they'll release 26 episodes a year from now on. 2025 had 38 episodes including recap fillers so it really isn't that much of a loss.
>>284789462>one chapter per episodeWhy would they keep doing this after they finally started putting some budget in episodes? It's the single biggest complaint about the anime.
>>284789654Because they would eventually get too close to the manga considering how often Oda takes break weeks.
>>284789654They could do 3 an episode and it would still be slow as snails, just not glaciers.
>>284788572first they have to remake marineford, dressrosa, whole cake and wano
It has been 26 years already?
>>284788572If they correct the pace, yes.
>>284788572ITS any good? I saw Jimmy Beast just got into it and he's based so I wanna know if it's worth the watch or not, dae feel intimidated starting a 2000000 episode long series?
>>284790303It is filled with diddy blud ahh scenes
>>284790303I started reading and watching the series in the early 00s so it was much shorter at the time. And I didn't really use the internet much back then or know really how to find information so I didn't know exactly how long it was at the time anyway. If I hadn't started so early I doubt I would have gotten into it like I did. It does get kind of repetitive after a bit and for a while now even the manga's pacing has been pretty trash, much less the anime that sometimes doesn't even adapt a full chapter per episode.
>>284789654Because Oda makes about 35 chapters a year, and production starts months in advance, so when they started Elpaph there was probably still in the beginning in the manga
>>284788572I don’t know why this is such a surprise too people when the anime is so close to the manga
>>284790221>If they correct the pace, yes.My dear >>284789462
>>284789462It says 26 episodes maximum, not minimum.
>>284791151What, sometimes we will get 24 instead of 26? Its still one chapter per year
>>284791339one chapter per episode I meant, but it's still shit
Fuck yes, finally OP fans will disappear for periods of 3 years
>>284791339>>284791414I think one chapter per years is just a rule of thumb. There are 32-35 chapters per year, so they have a leeway. I imagine 2026 will really cover exactly 26 chapters, but then the third cour will be faster paced, covering 20 chapters due to being a flashback, and the alternative would be 1.5 cour without Luffy.
>>284788572Yes, fuck all you who watched this crap since the timeskip. This shit had the most insufferable pacing in any anime ever, literally adapting like one chapter tops, but most of the time like 10 pages max.Characters are literally staring at each other for 2 minutes straight, a punch being thrown by someone takes more than a minute because this garbage studio keeps showing the reaction of every damn character in 10 mile radius and then loops those reactions like 3 or 4 times.
>>284792373>26 chapters a yearLol that's like 6 minutes in universe.
>>284792465Don't forget the full length opening song and the 4 minutes of recap.
>>284788572Real reason is nobody cares anymore and they need to try and build hype. I watched 1 episode 26 years ago and dropped it.
Wait wasn't the plan to start anew with studio wiz and redo everything with actually decent pacing?
One Piece is impenetrable. No one should watch 1000+ episodes of a series that adapts one chapter per 20 minutes of animation. And Oda's art became a cramped slopfest that is genuinely unpleasant to look at, and hard to parse.
>>284792960The first ~600 chapters of One Piece are great though, so it's easy to start liking it early and then the amount of content doesn't feel so bad anymore. By the time you notice it's gotten bad (if you're marathoning it) you're already too far to stop
>>284792960Normalfags have no sense of quality and don't value their time.
>>284792906Both are the plan. But Wit Piece takes forever to come out, it's been announced 2 years ago and we still don't even have a release date.
>>284788572You can't call it "season 1" because it wasn't seasonal. "season" doesn't just mean "episodes of TV without a break"
>>284793137That will just be called One Piece future entries will be One Piece: Elbaph arc part 1/2/3
>>284788572>>284788588>>284788814>people complain when the show is neverending and adapting less than one chapter per episode>studio adjusts to fix that>people complain that it's no longer never endingPerformative contrarianism is so lame
>>284793848The thing is they will still adapt a chapter per episode.
>>284793871There's hope they improve the pacing with jokes and extended action.
Read the manga.
>>284789462That's why I think something like the WIT remake is necessary. Even with the new schedule, the pacing is still fucked and slow as molasses at best. I understand the need for the original adaption to cover the current events to keep the merch train rolling, but it's kinda sad to see all that animation effort go into something that's so inherently fucked on a pacing level (As opposed to the Toei sound designers, who got the memo and are phoning it in for years now.)
The humble and ever patient true one piece fan already knows the true ending anyway.
>>284788572I pretty much only read the manga, so...Oh, and any of the filler that has Carrot
>>284788572This sounds like Toei is announcing that they're closing their doors. You don't change a 26 year way of doing things unless something has gone very wrong.
>>284792344The manga's still ongoing, though.
>>284789462>We will be getting 26 episodes a year usually paced at one chapter per episodeTop kek
>>284794023oda-chan-sensei dying of black lung out of nowhere a-la-toriyama?
It’s clear they’re planning to make canon movies after infinity castle. Switching to seasonal helps with that.
>>284788572No series should run for this long, regardless of the money they make
A friend’s friend told me that his favorite anime is wan Piss and that he watches 2/3 of the episode, skipping the intro music and recap. I can’t imagine doing this willingly every time. Nardo filler and Dragonball Z filler couldn’t pad out their story as much as this bullshit.
>>284788572>Oda and Shonen Jump stretching the fuck out of their franchise cuz the new blood can't write for fucking shitThis alongside bringing back both Bleach, Reborn and supposedly Dragon Ball is just downright pathetic. I'd expect this from capeshit, not manga.
>>284788572>>284794213>Hitman Reborn anime sequel announced last week >Kochikame remake also announced last week >New Dragon Ball anime to be announced next month Shonen Jump is getting desperate
Does anyone else find it insane that One Piece of all things is a series with insanely few anime original filler arcs? That they chose to do the "let's just adapt the canon material ridiculously slowly" approach? You're telling me Toei and Oda couldn't work out a deal where the studio asked him, "hey, at the end of this arc, leave things open for us to go to a few anime original islands." One Piece feels like it's a perfect fucking fit for filler like that.
>>284793848It hasn't ended tho, so by that logic it is neverending slop
>>284794075or it's an answer to market trends. if seasonal anime is currently more profitable than long-running series, then it only makes sense. specially considering how in recent times the One Piece anime has been praised for it's animation quality, Toei should double-down and focus on quality over quantity even moreplus, you should that Oda has been taking more and more breaks, forcing the anime's pacing to become slower and slower
>>284794213I mean One Piece is far from the only manga that's clocking in at over 1,000 chapters. Toei's just doing a terrible job of adapting it.
>>284794260Oda deserved it for shilling his 2 pedo friends and their series (Kenshin & Toriko), he was the one to tell Shonen Jump to push Toriko as the next big thing since Oda was sure his friend's manga was going to become the next multimedia franchise to rival Dragon Ball and One Piece in popularity, then Toriko was cancelled and ended with an anime original ending despite having 4 crossovers with One Piece and 2 with Dragon Ball shilling it >>284794284Yeah
>>284794075I'm sure the only reason they were still doing "1 episode a week forever" was because of their old contract and the dinosaurs in charge only just finally realized that the shitty format of the anime was doing more harm than good at some point during Wano, that's when they began to crank up the budget. But even that probably wasn't enough.
How DOES One Piece pad out a single chapter to a 20m runtime? Are there just a lot of shots between dialogue or what?
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>>284794490Extended panning shots, extra crowd reaction shots, padding out fights that only lasted a couple panels in the manga, etc
>>284794490https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0RnadaSHto
>>284794490> Roger's speech>1:30 minute opening>previous episode recap >2 eye catches>flashbacks, needless panning shots>1:30 ending>next episode previewThe filler in One Piece is worse than Naruto's. At least there you could tell it was some bullshit you could skip, in One Piece they just bloat the actual canon content by inserting a ton of needless shit into it, so you can't skip it.
>>284789266Based
>>284789314Doraemon too, but the series airing now began in 2005 and it is basically just censored remakes of the older series on loop with slight changes to the plot every now and then Doraemon had a show in 1973 which is now lost media and the second more well known one aired from 1979 to 2004 when it ended
>>284794630And they've been doing this for over 15 years, btw. People say it only "got bad" after the time skip. No. The "Roger's speech" shit started around Enies Lobby. One Piece's pacing has been horrible for over 800 episodes.
>>284789314Sazae-san and Anpanman are both still going iirc
>>284794284Keroro is also getting a remake, but that has nothing to do with Shonen Jump, making lots of remakes just seem to be a safe bet for most companies
>>284792960I find it genuinely insane when I see normalfags say One Piece's artstyle starts out terrible then gets better later on. East Blue looks the best by a country mile.
>>284788588lolI wouldn't be surprised if the Oda wants to compete with gotouge.but the OP anime has been really fucking bad for a long ass time. for 5 good episodes there are 20 that are unwatchable garbage
>>284789314Pokemon
>>284794512Based
>>284794817Keroro's an odd one since they announced a movie that's tied to the old show old show at the same time as a reboot
>>284794850Eh. Different cast and region, wholly separate from Ash slop.
>>284794864Different voice cast and staff as well, they probably want to use the movie as a finale to the 2004 show, just so they can move ahead with the remake
>>284794903Ash's last series also had every region, Horizons is just more of the same
>>284795023Keroro's VA was bitching on twitter that they didn't told her about the remake or the fact that she was being recasted and that apparently it was the producers' idea which is kinda funny
One Pee
>>284794382I think Toei is just retarded. I mean they refused to adapt any of the cover stories outside the first couple. They could have used those to base filler arcs on and stretched them out with original content. But they didn't even use them to make a couple episodes here and there.
>>284794382They used to do it more but for some hard to understand reason they decided to stop doing any filler. IIRC the filler arcs got like no ratings so they decided to stop and just rape the canon content instead.One Piece anime is in a good place nowadays now. Episodes are actually better than the manga multiple times per arc and it's basically the definitive version of the story at this point. Shit that's like 1 small panel in the manga gets developed into real scenes for the anime, stuff like that.
>>284794382Early in the series the anime had various original arcs, like the one with the loli and the dragons, after a while they stopped because I guess Toei thought they could just stretch one chapter's runtime forever
>>284788572>watching shonenslop
>>284795222Wan Piss
>>284788572So are Conan the only non-family/kids anime that's long running in that format now? (Yes it's a kid show but I mean like kodomomuke shows)
>>284794382there are easily 3 years worth of episodes by adapting the cover arcs. toei is simply that retarded
>>284795545Almost every Conan episode plays out the same, plus plenty of episodes are anime original, so it is easier to write for
>>284788572Aren't they remaking it from the beginning at the same time? TWO One Pieces? Two Pieces?
>>284795596Only two? They've got the live action one happening as well.
>>284788572Good
>>284794382That's just how Toei always been. Dragon Ball and Z was very much like current One Piece anime. You don't notice now because its finished and you can binge the shit anytime you want and also like most kids, too dumb to notice. You can skip the long opening and ending credits and the long recaps and when you cut all that out you're left with about 15 minutes of the show. And you know the original was full of padded filler so its even less than that. Many of Toei's anime was like this. They prefer to pad out their series instead of making low budget fillers all the time and I'll be perfectly honest, it worked well for some shows like Dragon Ball/Z because there wasn't much going on in the manga compared to say One Piece where every panel is loaded with character and side character's actions or dialog or something being foreshadowed. Later Dragon Ball was mostly just 2 guys fighting so they had a lot to work with.The long power ups, the long stare down, etc. This would add tons of build up and suspense to the series because Kai showed just how bad it was when you removed all that build up. Everything being so fast paced to where things just happen with no impact. Truly a soulless experience. Not saying padded filler is always good but a right balance definitely is necessary.
>>284796393>>284796393One Piece's big problem is that it's just so long that it reaches beyond a reasonable limit for shit. If you count Dragon Ball + Z, that's about 440 episodes. One Piece is 1150. That's almost three times as long. And it's just going to keep going, even though now it's seasonal. One Piece genuinely might go up to 1500 episodes.
>>284793920It's over for the wit remake, too many red flags>Keeping the aged voice actors>Very slow development >Selling out to appeal to westerners(or a wider audience)
>>284793920>>284796794I just hate that WIT as a studio is going to be held up indefinitely for something THAT ALREADY HAS A FUCKING SHOW
>>284796952There's no way they do anything past East Blue. Which itself is pointless since LA's adaptation of East Blue was shockingly acceptable.
>>284788926>I haven't watched the One Piece anime since like 2010.I started watching it weekly about 7months ago. I didn't like how slow the manga was going so I went with the anime. It's fine to watch in the background when you're doing more important things and it has so much filler that it's perfect for it.One Piece hasn't been good since... White Beard in 2011. Yeah, that feels about right. It's been up and down in quality a lot since the time skip. A lot and I mean A LOT of shit broken up by good moments.
>>284796771I wonder if the series is only supported by Millennials, because the number of episodes in One Piece makes the series basically impossible to get into.
>>284793871They adapted more than one chapter in the latest episodes, so it's not a rule they follow or anything.
>>284794474Cute Lala spotted
>>284795545conan can write entire arcs of filler and no one will bet an eye since the formula works too well and has been figured out
>>284788572Egghead has been filler central anyway. This needed to happen a decade ago, the FI remake was just testing ground, then it moved to a late night slot.Conan next?
>>284794284Plus the world trigger remake and Psyren getting an anime.Their "new" mega hits are ending or have ended their anime like KnY, JJK, and MHA.Below them are manga like Chainsaw man, Sakamoto, Mashle, elusive samurai, Undead Unluck and Blue Box which all have a few years left for anime seasons.As far as their current line up they have Kagurabachi, Ichi, Shinobi undercover and Nue to fill the battle shonen hole. I also wouldn't be surprised if Ruri, Hima-ten or Hertz get anime if they stick around long enough.
It should have ended a fucking decade ago. Why does he keep milking it?
>>284794213>>284798533Agreed
>>284789654>they finally started putting some budget in episodes?The budget has never changed. Only difference has better directors at helm recently.
>>284796393>you can binge the shit anytime you want Back when I was 10-13 in 99-2003, I could tolerate it, especially since Funimation dumped around 30-70 episodes in a row on Toonami for 1-3 months each weekday and outside of a few subtitle 3 episode VHS tapes from an import store (which were individually expensive), i didn't have much knowledge of what to expect outside of knowing what fusion and SS3 were.But around late 2000's, I can't do that. The filler is horrendous. It's one thing to tolerate it the first time (same goes for One Piece), but god damn depending who's the episode director, it can be flat out fucking terrible. Worst were the "totally not a rerun" where it was just flashbacks of the prior few episodes. Even Kai's Buu saga still had filler because it was impossible to remove all of it for how interwoven it was throughout that saga.>The long power ups, the long stare down, etc. This would add tons of build up and suspense to the series because Kai showed just how bad it was when you removed all that build up.I fully disagree with this. It actually took away from it and many of the fights that had urgency no longer did (5 minutes turns into several hours). It also just raised questions in the cafeteria of "so why didn't Ginyu just attack Goku while he's powering up?" because that type of filler gave the impression that it takes a long time to go to full power when it was relatively instantaneous in the manga. Another example is Goku's transformation to SS3 on Earth (2 pages in manga), but it wasn't the first time he did it since he already achieved that transformation in Otherworld. Yet on Earth, the transformation is practically an entire episode long as if Goku is struggling to do it. Anyways all this gave wrong assumption of the world and the moniker "drag-on ball" was being used frequently by naysayers who didn't care for the show and never read the manga.
>>284788572Why are people so infatuated with this cartoonish, political and suffering porn show?
>>284800647please don't use Sakura to post /v/-tier bait
>>284800647It's funny to hear people calling One Piece "suffering porn" after its reputation in the early 00s.
>>284792491Has anyone ever just did a "One Piece: Recaps Only" compilation just to measure the sheer bloat?
>>284800892One Pace claims to reduce the anime's runtime by over 170 hours, around 40% of the total runtime
>>284801123I mean like how many recaps can you switch and glue together within an arc to come up with a vaguely cohesive summary/narrative. So that's like 170 hours worth of recap material to make into Stitch Piece.
>>284788572It should be 2 episodes per year instead
Yes, ideally they shoul redo the entire anime. Its pacing is horrendous. Its not like Oda drops a lot of lore in every chapter anyway. Every episode should at least cover 2-3 manga chapters.
>>284793920I miss the aeroplane noises and shit from the old animethat was sovl
I watch one piece maybe twice a year. Just a bunch of episodes at once since nothing happens in one episode. I binged past a few gear 5 episodes and haven't watched since
>>284794817>>284795023>>284795117I'm honestly looking forward (at least a little bit) for that remake, the 2004 anime was so heavily censored and toned down that it was almost unwatchable Imo (the OST was good tho), I don't think the remake could be as bad unless they purposefully tried as hard as humanly possible to make it worse
>>2847889262017 for me, I don't even watch clips to see how they adapted certain chapters, just webms that people post here. I remember WCI having five minute recaps.
>>284788572I watch 0 One Piece episodes every year.
>>284788572I don't care. I'll be reading the manga and thats it. thx for your attention.
>>284788572I’m only watching the Wit remake and live action
people complain about this and people would also complain if they kept doing a new episode every week with fillers. no matter what they do, people will complain. people fucking love to complain.
A great start and a good example for other tourist magnets.
>>284795545Conan isn't REALLY running in that format. It airs weekly, but mixes new episodes in with reruns, giving us roughly 3 cours worth of episodes a year.
>>284794849He has the remake, also kny is going to end before OP does
>>284788572This should've happened 15 years ago.
