It wasn't THAT bad.
Not OG, not good. /thread gtfb to plebbit
DBZ dub also gets treated like this.
>Americans unironically listend to this and thought it's firehttps://files.catbox.moe/wwazw6.mp4
>>284794991kino
>>284794625You thought "old good new bad" only applied to the content of the show itself? Attempt to translate any classic dry and literally and you'll be told you removed the soul.
>>284794625>muh sexists!>>>/r/eddit
>>284795586It's valid tho. Mfs sidelined the mc to promote the male jobber.
>>284796501Why did CLAMP make him so cute?
>>284794991THE SECRETS OF THE CLOW.WERE ALL A MYSTERY.
>>284795413moto
>>2847966954 otaku females.They always know what they're doing.
>>284794991
>>284794625no one even watched this shit in the westit was all sailor moon
>>284794625The difference is intentThe new one is made by people who hate me and want to lecture their morality to meThe old one wasn't
>>284794625Cardcaptors bombed, actually. for precisely the listed reasons. as did Mew Mew Power and DoReMi, which all got the same treatment.
>>284794625Who the fuck watched CCS with the english dub?
>>284798637>>284798771Thousands of Americans are being nostalgic about this shithttps://x.com/BlazeBinges/status/2003299529316270120
>>284794625>It wasn't THAT badtouche opnu-localizers are better than old localizers
>>284794625I love Madison
>>284794625People have nostalgia for that dogshit “dub”?
>>284798986
>>284798869Old localizers may have done many things I dislike and delivered a final product I consider crappy, but their intent was good.Nu-localizers hate me and wish to lecture me and socially engineer my behavior for their political ends.Despite the fact that old anime was changed in many ways I didn't like and found silly, the intent of the people making the localizations was to deliver a final product the target audience would enjoy. The changes were often made with broadcasting regulations and social and parental sensibilities in mind, with the purpose of being enjoyed by as many people as possible.The new style of localized anime people like me complain about never had my enjoyment in mind. The lines and character design were changed only to advance political goals.
>>284798771>Mew Mew Power and DoReMi were still shit but they at least kept most of the episodes that were bought and didn't try to rearrange the show to sideline the MC.
>>284794625Yes, the Nelvana Cardcaptors dub was that bad. I watched it as a kid back when it first aired (blissfully unaware of the changes) and then watched a few episodes of it again as an adult (now aware of what happened) and I was disgusted that kid me ever enjoyed it. The music was cool and the voice acting was decent, but the show itself was butchered beyond recognition.What makes it even more frustrating is that CCS got a 2nd English dub later on that had the opposite problem. It was uncut and had no censorship, but the voice acting was absolutely horrible. Even as someone who generally defends dubs, I can't recommend either of the CCS dubs because they both suck so much ass.>>284798825Kids who grew up in the 90's and adults nostalgic about having watched it as a kid back then, both of which are likely blissfully unaware of all the bullshit. Anyone who's actually aware of what happened and still likes the Nelvana Cardcaptors dub is a fucking idiot.
>>284799034>Nu-localizers hate me and wish to lecture me and socially engineer my behavior for their political ends.This.
>>284799111As a kid I liked the concept but after a couple of episodes I completely dropped it. I wasn’t aware of the whole thing going on with the dub censorship and rearranging, but the more I saw I could tell it was a mess. I just couldn’t explain why. Glad I watched it subbed several years later. I ended up enjoying it
>>284794991Holy SOVLhttps://files.catbox.moe/82sy4u.mp4
>>284799034I hate nu localizers.
>>284798867nobody is nostalgic for Cardcaptors.
>dubfags
>>284799392>literally in a first few comments
>>284794991>https://files.catbox.moe/wwazw6.mp4kino
>>284799443That's obviously not a real body. No real body is nostalgic about this shit.
>>284799532Are you Spanish
>>284799392>>284798637I was.That was before I knew about Card Captor Sakura and fell in love with Sakura all over again.But as a young kid? You bet I watched every episode of Cardcaptors and made American Sakura mai waifu. How would I know any better? Her VA was even a 12 year old kid.
>>284799618Portuguese
>>284799320See you later Sakura! WAH
>>284799111>>284799291>but the show itself was butchered beyond recognition.You don't seem to get the problem: As a kid you never got to watch these shows in production order. You were a kid, your life wasn't in your control. You had a schedule that adults forced upon you, and you caught every episode only when they allowed you to. And if they wanted to use the TV, tough shit, you're not seeing that episode this week, or ever unless it re-airs in a re-run that's also going to be shown out of order. So it being out of order or it even missing important plot-critical episodes was never a thing you thought about as the target audience of this show. For all you know, you just missed an episode. I mean it sucks but how would you know that?
>>284794991This sounds like something that would play in the background of a fast food kid's meal commercial.
>>284799775only because that's what it was, Nelvana made those ads for companies, too. A bunch of toy companies would have their ads done by them.
>>284799775I think that's what they aimed for actually.
>>284799815You have no idea how much I wanted that book and that camcorder
>>284799815
>>284799775Why is she in the washing machine?
>>284799815>>284799843I like how even the toy companies realized Sakura is the main character. We knew she was the main character too but couldn't exactly place why as kids. >>284798637>>284799392>>284798771>Watching CCS as kids It was on the same channel as Pokemon of course we watched it. You're an absolute retard if you don't get why a show on the Pokemon and One Piece network wouldn't get some of their audience.
>>284794991>My oh my he's a demon samurai!
>>284799729my guy, I was a kid but I wanted to watch my shows and kept that shit on schedule. I’m sure my parents appreciated it because it kept me busy on weekend mornings so they could sleep in
>>284799726>>284799320Madison is SO CUTE
>>284799944>my guy, I was a kid but I wanted to watch my shows and kept that shit on scheduleYour parents didn't care. If they had something they wanted to do in the morning, you were doing it. Maybe your parents respected that schedule but most didn't, because they viewed your cartoons as just that: Visual entertainment to keep you quiet. They didn't even understand that what you were watching had a plot because in case you didn't notice: Almost no western cartoons had a plot, they were episodic.
>>284799906I hate that I know this reference
>>284799986This is some very bizarre projection. I’m sorry your parents were like that. It seems to have negatively affected you
>>284794887>There are """""people""""" who think that horrible techno crap fits the series at all.
>>284800033>This is some very bizarre projection.No, you're projecting an anecdote on everyone else, probably lying about it as well.>It seems to have negatively affected youLikewise, spoiled brat.
>>284799944did you tell them 'MOOOOM IM WATCHING MY CARTOONS' when she asked you to do chores?
>>284800105>MOOOM I'M GOONIN' TO SAKURA >WHO IS SAKURA? SHE IS MY IMAGINARY WIFE MOOOOOM
>>284800105>>284800128What a chad. Acting like a doormat solves nothing.
CARD CAPTORS OF THE CLOWEXPECT THE UNEXPECTED NOW
>>284794625no
>>284800063sorry you had no tastes as a kideveryone knew the DBZ song by heart
>>284799952Threesome with Madison and Avalon.
>>284800211Avalon was a cool English name.
>>284800167>>284800033Yes yes, you were such a chad as a kid and told your parents what to do. Any other fantasies?
>>284799034Go outside
>>284800033Oh those terrible 90s parents who prioritized going out and learning skills and socializing over letting their kids watch all the cartoons they wanted.
>>284800211>threesomeThis would just be watching those two from the cuck chair. you don't get action unless you're syaorin's sisters.
>>284799108You're talking to a schizophrenic who targets every CCS thread in an attempt to destroy it because he's mindbroken over it being more loved than whatever crap show he likes
>>284800392>This would just be watching those two from the cuck chair.What can girls even do without a man?
>>284799952>>284800211>>284800248Honestly, if the only changes the CCS dub made were the westernized names, it would have been fine. That's like the least annoying thing about it. Futari Wa Precure got a dub that was mostly faithful to the original aside from some westernized names, and that dub was solid.
>>284800437Tomoyo has likely spent thousands on a love dungeon for Sakura that she'll never get to use
>>284800421But I amAnd it's partially because of the exact localizers I was complaining aboutKanjidamage anki deck really helps with reading kanji btw, couldn't recommend it more. Makes reading Japanese casually so much easier. Installing it was a complete game changer
>>284800524and they'd still need a man because they lack the thick, pulsing and warm dick I have.
>>284800283He's not wrong at all though
>>284799906>>284800011It had a crossover appearance on another show from the same kike producerSaid producer even had a scene in said second show where they sang all of his famous jingles because he got his start writing the themes to kids cartoons
>>284794991Jesus Christ
>>284799524Context?
>>284800200Not him, but do you mean:>duh-duh-duh-dunnn>dun-duh-duh-dunnuh>AAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHH!
>>284801021https://youtu.be/bqSmY7W4BE4?si=
>>284799904I didn't say kids didn't watch it, I said it was unpopular. I remember when it was airing, kids talked about it for maybe a week before they realised Sakura was the protagonist rather than Showron and they all nope'd the fuck out because "it's a girl show".
>>284800493A dub that never aired outside of Canada, for the record. same as the PPGZ dub. I watched both out of curiosity and enjoyed them
>>284801080>they all nope'd the fuck out because "it's a girl show".And you believed them?
>>284801080Americans are so different from the rest of the world, it’s honestly astounding.
>>284800861Dumb Kaiju being acknowledged by dumb Angel for a fraction of a second.
Welcome to the Shart Tour Shart Tour Shart Tour
>>284801080here comes the goalpost moving >>284798637>no one even watched this shit in the west>I remember when it was airing, kids talked about it for maybe a week before they realised Sakura was the protagonist rather than Showron and they all nope'd the fuck out because "it's a girl show".Exact opposite here. Kids are coomers and they thought Sakura was cute, and it shared a time block with Pokemon for a while. You know Pokemon, the same show with this girl?
>>284801185You would be right most of the time but Nelvana, who dubbed this show, is Canadian.
>>284801185last bastion of masculinity in the west? I agree.
>>284801248>4chan is one person
>>284801362Okay but you just did that by saying people didn't watch it when people obviously d id.
>>284801375The fact they even talked about this is based.Back when California still had based people living in it who cared about preserving culture. The whole thing would end with "AND THAT'S A GOOD THING" if it were written today.
>>284801530I said the series bombed.
>>284801350>last bastion of masculinity Americans are the gayest and most emasculated people in all existence, that's why most of their media demonizes cute girls, gender, and obsesses over the sexual characteristics of men. Only a nation like that can make Rugby seem obscenely gay.
>>284801572>goalpost moving again>>284801080>I said it was unpopularAny more cool lies you'd like to tell us?
>>284799034>made with broadcasting regulations and social and parental sensibilitiesHe thinks those are apolitical lmaoooooooo
I don't think about masculinity when I watch anime. That's gay.
>>284801688I think about being stepped on by Sakura, is that weird?
>>284801674The point is that they weren't trying to further political goals, but trying to adapt to a culture and sell a product. But I guess that went over your head.
>>284794991why thocouldn't they do it like the latinos and just translate the lyrics?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh59AvisoZ4
>>284794991To be fair, I was like, 11 at the time and used to Pokemon as my only reference for what anime even was. I thought the idea of summoning creaatures from cards was cool as hell. At the time my weird uncle had also given me a bunch of Magic The Gathering cards and I use to run around playing Card Captors with those cards with the only other kid I knew in my neighborhood that watched CCS.
>>284801771Broadcasting regulations are a form of pushing political goals. Who do you think put them there in the first place?
>>284801771Let me localize your post: I was too young and ignorant to notice what they were doing or on the rare occasions when I did it aligned with my personal politics so it was fine.
>>284801837Are we talking about localizers or broadcast regulators?I am trying to explain why people like me are upset by new localizers more than by old ones, and why I hold more disdain for the new localizations than the old ones.If a regulation forces a water bottle salesman to sell water bottles with a specific bottle cap instead of an older, cheaper model, would you, understanding that, hold contempt for the salesman?
>>284801621what does 'bomb' mean to you?
>>284801590meanwhile in reality Euros were giving government funded sex changes when sodomy was still a felony in multiple US states.
>>284801784Americans love to mutilate shits just like their peepee
>>284801784Latinos suck dick too because they didn't dub the other two opening and ending themes. And kero's voice in spic is horrible too.
>>284802084And by they didn't dub I mean they didn't air at all.
>>284801877I wasn't talking about the intent and consequences of broadcast regulators' actions, but about the intent and consequences of localizers' actions in different periods in time.The final product of an old localization doesn't upset me as much as the one of a new localizations because of the intent of the localizer. The old one made changes because they were trying to make the final product as popular as possible. The new one makes changes because they're trying to capitalize on the expected popularity of the title to further political goals via lecturing and social engineering.
>>284798637I watched it, I don't remember how but I found out back then about how the dub was censored and it pissed kid me off so bad that I started watching the subbed version on the internet instead, probably one of the first non-dubshart anime I watchedI don't see how anyone can say "the intent was good" when it clearly wasn't and was just trying to copy other Americanized shows for money, it was extremely disrespectful both to the source material and to the audience's ability to engage with things from different cultures they don't know about (yet, they would know about it if they were allowed to)
Hold hands with Sakura, roundhouse hug Sakura, kiss Sakura, lower lips.
Sakura is cute! CUUUTE!
>>284794991Yes, faggot.
I went through a phase where I ignored CCS because I thought it was for kids, then a phase where I jerked off to a bunch of dirty CCS hentai, and now I'm in a phase where CCS just makes me sad because it's like a snapshot into the childhood friendships I didn't get to have.
>>284802565me when i eat buldak ramen
>>284801590Why are you saying this as if Sweden a d Finland don't exist?
>>284801877When did I say I was happy with changes made in localizations? As far as I'm concerned anime is better enjoyed raw.
>>284802079>I wake up>I think of American foreskinswhat am I?
>>284801877Hey, you could do well as a Crunchyroll localizer because you completely distorted that anon's post to make your own unrelated strawman!
>>284802660Sweden aired CCS in Japanese with Swedish subs. Far more of a chad move than what the US did to it.
>>284796804WHEN THIS MIGHTY BOOK WAS OPENED,THE POWERS WERE SET FREE.
>>284794625Sucks to be a Cuckerican, programmed since childhood to be an npc. Break free
>>284794991Catch you catch me is a much better song.The melody is very good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoXBSbQXCnk
>>284800063The ssj3 transformation is so fucking powerful and infinitely improved because of the dub ost
>blatant anti-american flame bait thread stays up for 7 hours>say anything slightly negative about Eurotrash and you get an instant 3 day weekendhmm
>>284799443>bluemarkragebait account
>blatant anti-american flame bait threadwhat did he mean by this?
>>284794625People didn't know better back then. If we were okay with localized crap back then, and we're not okay with it now, doesn't that mean we're moving forward as a society?
>>284798637>sailor moonblack femoid baboon coreget the fuck outta here with that gayshit
>>284799034Every piece of work you've encountered that was initially created in another language underwent localization during its translation process.
>>284801080It probably would have done better had they been honest about it being a girl's show from the beginning. The only other similar show would have been Sailor Moon.
>>284803398technical "accurate" translations often cause many phrases and cultural references to be lost on the target audience, hence the field of localization exists
>>284794991I can't hear the Cardcaptors song without remembering that video of a group of black guys humping furniture to it.
>>284799034>Old localizers may have done many things I dislike and delivered a final product I consider crappy, but their intent was good.M8 their intent was to make money off of kids they thought were too stupid to understand concepts like other countries or foreign food or female main characters.
>>284803722You can't just say this and then not include a source.
>>284803599And I dislike some localizations more than others. What about it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akrdSDew2qMHon honhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhi3aAckc78Hoooooonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if8G5inK6YAHon Hon HONhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w72iK7lkyxEHonhonhonhonhonh
>>284794625I was under impression the Americanized version of CCS was disliked by most fans.
>>284801674They are, however, subhumans like you will latch onto to create narrative bullshit.Here is a good example, is that you falsely make things political when we talk about why Western animation died out. You fags will bring up Reagen solely to bash him and then try to act like Reagan killed Western animation. Not because of any logical reason, but simply because you are manipulating and generating a narrative. That is the only political bullshit that can be brought up. Of course anyone who knows the history will call you out and demand an explanation about why you cry about Reagen when if anything, the post He-man regulations where animation studios were banned from being able to make animated toy commercials wasn't a death blow to Western animation in many ways, instead of acting like its some good thing.
>>284803778I personally don't find that as irritating as people who hate me for being a straight white man and sees the show they're localizing as a tool to manipulate potential political pawns, with no preoccupation with making what they're releasing good or popular.
>>284794991I pity them
>>284803871It was, so OP is just bait. Its not even hated like the 4kids dubs, its been forgotten by most people because Shojo anime were never popular. Although a segment of kids who grew up in the era will feel a fondness and nostalgia for the show despite not really remembering a thing about it.Even funnier that these faggots >>284801590>>284802079whine about America but Cardcaptor was dubbed by a Canadian company.
>>284801829>I thought the idea of summoning creaatures from cards was cool as hell.Naw man, it’s still cool as hell, one of the most unique concepts too, especially since it predates Yu-Gi-Oh!.
If they aired Cardcaptor Sakura unedited in America in 2000 not only would no children have watched it but also there would be riots in the streets because of how gay and satanic it is.
>>284804092>The rest of the world enjoyed CCS fine>The Americans:
>>284804110In America children are used to watching shows made by and for Americans, it's different from the rest of the world where they are used to everything being foreign.
>>284800063When people talk good about the American DBZ soundtrack they are only talking about the cool songs during the dramatic scenes not the weird shit during the padding.
>>284804152Do you really think other countries don’t make their own media too? Fucking American arrogance.
>>284794625>>284794991i listened to the mandarinz dubbed by a middle aged woman in SEAland , anon. with subs.
>>284803960>Canadian company.its north americax
>>284804065The ribbons and tendrils of magic, Windy especially, are so lovingly animated in CCS. Such a great aesthetic.
>>284798637the horny lemonfic writers did in the late 90s nets and early 2000s.
>>284804204He's right though, for the longest time cartoons were 90% American, this changed only during the 70s.
>>284803603at the end of the day girls just don't watch cartoons. Disney Channel fell for that bait and made their entire lineup 'girl shows' and it killed all the momentum the channel had in the 90s. they fucked up so bad they had to start airing anime rather than their own productions just to try and convince people to come back. their only good cartoon for all of the 00s was Kim Possible, which itself was meant to mostly be a girl show that just so happened to pick up a male audience.
>>284804110>rest of the world are godless heathensindeed
>>284804277Hadn't thought about Sakura x Syaoran High School AU lemonfics on fanfiction.net in a hot minute, but thanks. I remember a lot of them were super edgy and usually invented some evil card or enemy sorcerers to pose as the antagonists. I ate that shit up, but I'm sure it would be unbearably cringe to read as an adult.
>>284804363I rest my case.
What's the consensus of pic related?
>>284804472Consensus is everyone is acting dumb asking bullshit retarded questions and the board is boring as shit full of ironic hurr durr fuck you, fuck all of you and fuck your dumbass bullshit question shithead.
>>284804392as do I.
>>284794625This was made by a tranny localizer that wants to have their balls sucked again like back when they raped ghost stories
>>284798867is that supposed to be a lot? that's like 0.003% of the population
>>284804472a wolf in sheep’s clothing
>>284794625>People are nostalgic for the CCS dubThe show got canned and never had a completed run in the USA so you either had to wait for the DVDs by Pioneer or all these people are cannucks in which case your opinions don't matter >>284799443Nigga just a few days ago these retards were saying how they were nostalic for the fucking old Escaflowne dub which aired like 10 episodes on FoxKids at 11:30 am before getting cannned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8BGINS86ok&pp=ygUWZXNjYWZsb3duZSBkdWIgb3BlbmluZw%3D%3DThis is all performative bullshit for engagement they're also doing it by spamming that Kodocha dub which also failed.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0_Zao7gAsw
>>284799034>Old localizers may have done many things I dislike and delivered a final product I consider crappy, but their intent was good.retard lol
>>284804972
>>284799034>it's for the kidsthis is no justification for censorship
>>284804472D-Did she actually ended up bagging the teacher...?
>>284799524Tatsumaki Senpukyaku
>>284794625I just liked it more as a kid, the dream sequences were cooler, the romance was better, watching it an adult there's no mystery anymore
>dub threadseriously guys?
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>>284804092This/
>>284794625How about we just kill all dubfags and localizers and these problems won't exist anymore
>>284803866Hon hon hon titty croissant blue da ba dee at least it's still better than the German Naruto opening
>>284802053Sit down lil nigga the lgbtqa++ movement was born in the us of a frfr no cap and so did the transgender movement, blm, modern feminism, and this retarded, niggerish way of speaking SHEESH
>>284798637i watched it on tv but i didn't like it.Doremi is superior.
>>284799034>broadcasting regulations and social and parental sensibilities in mindThe new localizers to this exact same thing. You just hate the new social and parental sensibilities and assume they exist to harm you personally.
>>284801375>three separate series were spliced to make a single showDo Americans really?
>>284794625>watching anime with dubs
>>284803641>>284803398Contrary to what the contrarian retards here say, localization is necessary.If a character makes an off-hand remark that references a Buddhist concept that nobody outside of Japan knows and the target audience is kids, then it's perfectly fine to change the dialogue to something the target audience will know. However if the series revolves around Buddhist concepts then the phrase should not be removed. It's up to the audience to decipher and integrate what it means.Localization is not inherently good or bad.
>>284804335Yeah, because American networks though American children were retards that could not handle non-American things.
>>284805394Yes, multiple times.Dont be hatin'.
>>284799034or, what about, redacting and/or censoring a work is bad, in any era
>>284799034>hate women>hate black people>hate POC>hate LGBTQ+>only accept straight, white and japanese in media>"why people hate me? why nu-localizers hate me?"lollmao
>>284799034>Old localizers may have done many things I dislike and delivered a final product I consider crappy, but their intent was good.>Nu-localizers hate me and wish to lecture me and socially engineer my behavior for their political ends.Old localizations were worse because they were changed to socially engineer the behavior of children for political ends AND changed even more to fit American TV standards for children.That's why dubs like DBZ basically have zero silence to them, the traditional belief was that any silence at all would cause people to change the channel.You're probably just a poser faggot who doesn't watch any anime at all anyways.
>>284801266Canadians dubbed plenty of shows that were popular in America.The first 60 or so episodes of DBZ that aired for two years and got the series big enough for "Z Day" to be a thing were dubbed by Canadians.
Why do localizer fags have to cope so much about not watching subs? Does your reading level not exceed 5th grade or something? Do you seriously give a shit about a series commercial viability instead of how good it is? Do you even know where that mindset is leading anime and any other entertainment industry right now?
>>284803903Hmm, I wonder why a localization of Card Captor Sakura that's notable for censoring all the gay shit that was in the original is deemed more acceptable to you. I'm sure there's no reason at all.
are you telling me dragonball WASN'T about a pair of shirtless guys grunting nonstop for 24 minutes while they powered up (tune in next week when you'll listen to them grunting for another 24 minutes while powering up)?
How many men did this girl turn into lolicons?
>>284795793I want to eviscerate every last zoomer with my bare hands.
>dubI mean, it was fine when we were kids but as adults there's no excuse to not (re)watch it on Japanese. Other than nostalgia, lf course.
>>284807197Not enough.
>>284794625They did the same thing to Escaflowne. Which is fucked, because girls would have loved that show as is.
>>284807197a few years ago when I watched this show I was 29 and it changed me forever...
>>284798721Instead of lecturing, they wrote something new so you couldn't enjoy the source. This is why we need fansubbers still.
>>284794625It's THAT bad.
>>284806298Also CardCaptors in particular first aired on Kids WB (same channel as Pokemon, hint hint) before any Canadian station, it was pretty clearly made for that audience first and foremost and trying to ride the Pokemania wave. That version was also the one which only had 39 episodes as >>284794625 complains about
>>284807197I was only in kindergarten and she gave me a weird mind boner.
>>284807361I agree
>>284806976Did the writers do it because they hate all gay people or did they do it because they thought parents would turn off the TV and tell other parents to not let their kids watch the show if there was gay shit?
>>284806014I don't have any problem with Venom in Guilty Gear. Why do you think that is?
>>284805372The difference is intent in that the new localizers hate me, and that is discernable not only by their behavior outside of their job, but by the changes they make in the anime.One doesn't change a line about trying to fit in with human society into a line about how evil the patriarchy is with the intent to fit into regulations. They did it to lecture people and to attempt to get feminist gender warfare into the viewers' minds.
>>284807197Sakura has no power over me because I was already one before watching CCS
>>284805351it originated with Frankfurt school socialists in 1920s Germany. Feminism originated in England. Negrophilia as a term was coined to refer to the French. this is all a European illness that you exported to America and are now blaming America for because you're terminally online and are more in-tune with American culture than your own.
>>284806155How did old localizations attempt to socially engineer children's behavior? Where was the intent to impact the political sphere in the show noticeable?As to the sheer mass of changes in older localizations, making them arguably worse than newer ones, that is a fair opinion to have. It did desecrate the Japanese original so it could pretend to be an American cartoon that never shuts up instead of being what it was.I just personally am more irritated by the intent of the people behind the newer one to an extent where I dislike them more than the old ones.
>>284805943I think some censorship and redaction more irritating than others because of the intent of the censor, but I agree that it all sucks. I'm not as irritated by Yu-Gi-Oh cards being censored in Korean, Chinese and western releases as I am by manga pages being vandalized by gigantic black boxes everywhere that are there because the censor thought that the sexualization of women is objectifying and men who enjoy it are rapist pigs. One is trying to fit into a perceived (even if retarded) moral standard, the other is trying to dictate it to the viewers and actively condemn those that wanted it uncensored.
>>284804110America just happens to be a moralistic society, not in that their moral, but that they're obsessed with being perceived as moral. That kind of society can't help but desecrate almost all that comes from outside for one intent or the other. Some Americans may like it that way, like this >>284804363 guy, but many people within and outside the place are annoyed by such behavior.
>>284805943It is bad in general, but the simple reason that old censorship / localizer misappropriation was better is simply because the political ends they were serving were better and less sinister.They can still fuck themselves for defacing the original work, but the point still stands.>>284806014no one needs to be lectured on hatred by people who hate everything white or japanese.You're a hippocrite and either an idiot or a liar. Or Both.
>>284808679TrueAlso this nation of schizophrenics combining excessive prudery and extreme degeneration. And it's not even about divisions, it's just that the same people combine these two traits.
Imagine taking a stroll at night and accidentally stumbling upon this.
>>284808437>How did old localizations attempt to socially engineer children's behavior? Where was the intent to impact the political sphere in the show noticeable?Look at how a work like Dragon Ball was changed.Goku becoming a Christlike figure in a similar vein to Superman is a big one, but a lot of shows were altered to imbue more Christian/conservative messaging, excised a lot of the more really violent or 'dangerous' ideas, you couldn't talk about Hell or Heaven despite the Christian slant a lot of characters received, that kind of thing.>making them arguably worse than newer ones, that is a fair opinion to have.It's not arguable. At all. It just was worse.
>>284806014good bait or tranny
>>284808771rape
>>284808771I would certainly wonder why the fuck I keep seeing a girl at night wearing always different elaborate costumes.
Old localization annoys me more because they made those changes knowing it was more difficult to get information about/acquire the original show, so they knew that most people either had to put up with their fanfic or have nothing at all, unlike shitty subs now where everyone has access to the original show and can easily call out shitty subs/make better ones and spread them around
>>284799034They hated him because he spoke the truth.
>>284808787Considering parent were already trying to pass journalistic articles calling DBZ satanic with the show censored and bastardized in the manner you showed, how do you think they'd react if they released it uncut, with all the blood and none of the moralistic soeeches in that period in time? Would that movement to take down this "satanic" show maybe have grown even more?Did the localizers making this set out to make as many children christian as possible because they hate east asian religions and philosophies like Taoism and Buddhism and wish to make them all christian, or did they make these changes so that vigilant christian parents would be less likely to turn off the TV and go on a crusade against the anime?Also opinions aren't objective. Observable reasons to have opinions are. The judgements of value that led you to conclude the old localizations were worse due to how much was changed and how much of the original story was buried and how it disrespected the viewers and the creator are valid, and I can understand why you find that the most irritating, but I, despite also being upset by all of these changes, am not as mad at all of that as I am at the few changes in newer localizations because of the difference in intent. Old localizers set out to adapt to a culture and sell a product. They didn't have malicious intent in the sense of actively despising the target audience and trying to change their mind. New localizers set out to localize an anime with hate for the patriarchal structures of society and the intent is to dismantle the patriarchy and make as many feminists as possible. One is trying to adapt to and the other is trying to subvert, and I'm personally more irritated by the attempt at subversion even if the sheer number of changes is lower. There is no benefit of the doubt or comprehension of their situation to be found. They just hate me.
>>284809256>Old localizers set out to adapt to a culture and sell a product. They didn't have malicious intent in the sense of actively despising the target audience and trying to change their mind. New localizers set out to localize an anime with hate for the patriarchal structures of society and the intent is to dismantle the patriarchy and make as many feminists as possibleAbsolutely this, you can sense the author's intentions
>>284794625There's a version where Shaoran is the main character? Uh based?
>>284799034I wouldn't say their intent was "good", if their intent was good they wouldn't have butchered it in the first place. Modern lolcowlizers occasionally making some shitsubs which nobody likes doesn't mean old localizers are your best friend who really cared about the original show or anything.
>>284809256>Old localizers set out to adapt to a culture and sell a productOld localizers set out to erase the original culture because they viewed it as inferior and new localizers do the same exact thing but with a different zeitgeist.Eat your hamburger, Apollo.
>>284809860>Did the localizers making this set out to make as many children christian as possible because they hate east asian religions and philosophies like Taoism and Buddhism and wish to make them all christian, or did they make these changes so that vigilant christian parents would be less likely to turn off the TV and go on a crusade against the anime?Which do you think is more likely? One one incur more wrath than the other? Why?
>>284809670He's cringe.
>>284795586they were baby boomers, everyone has the right to hate them for everything
>>284809886Both are true.
>>284809834I actually agree. Calling them good was giving them too much benefit of the doubt. It's not like the product they released was good.
>>284810043Did the changes actively talk shit of Buddhism and Taoism and actively spread christian dogma or did they remove foreign philosophies they thought could offend militant parents? When does Goku tell me how the Buddhist world view is satanic and that the religion is a death cult, and/or tell me how Christ is the Lord and how he hinges on him to defeat his enemies?And in relation to new localizations, which even has an opportunity to receive a benefit of the doubt? Which one could be explained even if only partially by external pressures from parents and broadcasters and which observably comes entirely from a desire to subvert le evil societal norms and move potential political pawns?
This thread convinces me that it's good I'm not American. Why do these schizophrenics prudishly censor everything while also spreading degenerate leftist ideas?
>>284809964You take that back!
>>284810279>Did the changes actively talk shit of Buddhism and TaoismThe removal of those elements alone is equivalent to talking shit about it and deeming it incompatible and/or inferior with american ideals.America is an aggressively imperialist culture which is why it has the most blatant censorship of foreign products, whether it is outright change or simple removal doesn't matter because the underlying purpose is the same, to protect the perceived american values and identity.Saying that a bad localization/censorship is not actively offensive because it doesn't explicitly say "fuck that buddha shit YEEHAW" is a feeble apology for the most morbid forms of cultural imperialism, removal, changes and/or substitution of any part of the original source material are equally bad and stem from the same cultural issue.Whether those changes add elements of certain sociocultural currents you personally disagree with doesn't fundamentally change the nature of the practice, that's your own nation's internal sociocultural issues that are mirrored as a byproduct of the confrontation with foreign cultures and ideas.Eat your hamburgers, Apollo.
>>284809256>because they hate east asian religions and philosophies like Taoism and Buddhism and wish to make them all christianNTA but Yes, unironically. It was not just common for people to shit on Japanese shit, it was normative and widespread through the mid 2000s. You even saw this in nerd culture like vid relatedhttps://streamable.com/0fameqWestern localization made a lot of entirely cultural changes to the content because the target demographic was white christian boys. Even nowadays localizers largely target a white audience (not a multi-cultural audience) so they purposely get rid of certain cultural things that Asian Americans and Japanese Americans would have no problem understanding (because they're not the target audience).Compare this with the localization of anime in Latin America (where puritan religious values and superstitions are even more highly regarded) and you'll see that they for the most part just stuck to direct translations, even leaving in honorifics and stuff at times.
>>284810279>>284810436>anime and mangaREEE NOT GOOD MUST BE CENSORED NO FUN ALLOWED>collages full of old communist ideological diversants and their young woke successorsLittle reaction, one man who took this problem seriously, several decades too late, was recently shot deadIt's a shame that American conservatives are so incompetent.
>>284810515>>284810527But why change anything at all? We should respect other cultures and not meddle with their creations.At most, we should not show them on children's television, and that's it.
>>284810660That's largely what they did in Latin America and they allowed it in TV because people understand that it's fiction. The level of changes in English localization is abnormal, not just the violence censorship, but everything. I don't know why English localizers try to pass it off as common sense.
>>284794991The only time an English opening was arguably better than the Japanese opening was the 1995 Canadian Dragon Ball opening.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lnDtZ32WgwThen they replaced it with this abomination during reruns.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er1kOz5w9iE
>>284810614This is the same situation as with prohibition. NO FUN ALLOWED, and the result was that they bred criminal organizations that became a huge problem. Just 'murrica things
>>284810717>The only time an English opening was arguably better than the Japanese openinghttps://youtu.be/8qLl145FqQg
>>284794625>2000kys
>>284794625if you're not dbz or yugioh, you do NOT have a pass. simple.
>>284810660>But why change anything at all?Because of a variety of reasons.The biggest one is the simple incompatibility between sociocultural norms or customs between cultures, it might be religion or simple everyday life customs, sometimes it can also be something a bit deeper like certain themes or topics but those hardly get censored nowadays because the material that does get localized in the first place has usually passed the check at a localization level for those themes to be deemed safe, otherwise the product simply doesn't get localized to begin with and the problem is removed entirely.Another extremely common problem is dealing with the lack of intercultural knowledge on common life topics or elements, e.g. Brock's (Takeshi btw) Jelly Filled Donuts™ are a thing because Onigiri are intrinsically japanese and not common outside of Japan's area, back in the days of the 70's-90's this was somewhat understandable as the internet wasn't really a thing, nowadays while not being as common it shows its true colour as a cultural practice because the localization process arbitrarily decided at a cultural level that kids are too stupid to make a simple google search on their phones about Onigiri/whatever or worse, there's specific cultural interests of various natures about limiting children's exposure to foreign cultures as much as possible.Some other problems come from intrinsic linguistic or cultural issues, mostly figures of speech or specific cultural references that are too obscure for the everyday man to get, but these are probably the rarest case of localization issues because again, if such material even gets past the localization process it usually has an audience that can get those things to begin with so change/censorship is not needed as the product has a specific niche.
>>284802660We invented racism thoughbeit
>>284805394Yes, see the Digimon movie
>>284808679imo you don't make it sound good at all, sound like the rest of the world is disgustingly immoral but at least america attempts to at least put up a pretense and set a good example even if it's actual actions fall shortThe rest of the world revels in and endorses immorality
>>284810515>The removal of those elements alone is equivalent to talking shit about itTrying to avoid backlash and actively causing it are equivalent now?I don't think america censors because it is imperialist, but because it is moralistic and prone to purity spirals. Spain is extremely imperialistic, no one would dare to say otherwise, and yet they tend to respect anime way more, with many uncut dubs in contrast with the American abominations. Yu-Gi-Oh Zexal in Spain, for one, is completely uncut, even describing every card activated in the same tone as the Japanese original and trying to respect it.Also I'm not American. Apparently that's relevant now.
>>284810830That's okay for being a 4Kids opening, but it's in no way better than Oversoul.
>>284803009Was this in the 90s? I recall we did air a localized fennoswedish 90s moomin anime, but that had some mild censorship too (one or two episodes cut and some knives removed i think)Otherwise it was probably even closer to the source material than the Japanese release.
>>284811261It aired on Barnkanalen in the mid-00s or so.
>>284801829I thought this jump was so cool back in the day. Sakura is so much more impressive without magic!
>>284811282Shame I somehow missed it then somehow. Did watch sone Yugioh and Beyblade tho
>>284811261Scandinavia was based in the past, conservative but without excessive prudishness
>>284810904>me, an 8 year old child, unwinding in the evening with cartoons, with my jp-en dictionary on my left and my phone with Google pulled up on the right, ready to quickly look up what okneegeeree is as soon as this nonsensical term comes upCome on man, what's next, tv shows for children should be written using 12 grade SAT vocabulary language?>what do you mean? of course it should, they can just look it up hurrNo one has any issue with stuff from different cultures by the way, stupid strawman, parents plop their kids down in front of the tv to learn Spanish shit from Dora and nihao kai lan (I don't remember what the name of that show is), and before those, the Karate Kid was one of the biggest zeitgeist of the 80s. How do these fit in with the nonsensical persecution complex that Americans are super scared of the existence of foreign cultures for their kids? It doesn't. The thing is there's a time and a place, I'm watching pokemon for the same reason a Japanese kid is, not to learn about foreign foods but to be entertained by pokemon. The intent of the scene in the show is to display the character eating a familiar food. If that intent is lost on your audience because you want them to just be confused, think the characters are aliens, or grab a dictionary, then you did a poor job of translating that scene for your audience.
>>284811320Agreed.
>>284796695>Why did CLAMP make the love interest for their protagonist (and therefore a vicarious love interest for their little girl audience) so cute?
>>284811372>No one has any issue with stuff from different cultures by the wayThey do, which is why they're changed to begin with.Also reread my post slowly this time.>parents plop their kids down in front of the tv to learn Spanish shit from DoraBut somehow that doesn't apply to Pokemon's japanese shit which the show is literally full of, curious!It's almost as if there's tons of sociocultural subtexts including the simple fact that spanish/latino culture is inherently less alien than japanese culture due to America's large latino demographic...
>>284811337Yeah, I barely watched it either since the channel was mostly toddlerslop and I was in my edgy teen phase where shoujo was too girly for me, but I remember watching a couple of episodes ironically and laughing at episode titles like "Sakura and The Dangerous Piano" and the loan/slang spellings of words in the songs being left untranslated, leading to phrases like "the U2 Monday". We also had FMA03 and Naruto (although it only aired the first 52 episodes of it on repeat) on ZTV back in like 07-08.
>>284811363>Removal, change AND even simply leaving the product as is are ALL sources of potential backlashI'm not talking about what people could be potentially offended by, but whether or not it was the intent of the localizer to offend or not. I'm comparing my disdain towards different types of localizers, observing the probable intent behind their actions as the main factor irking me, not expressing my disdain for the American or Chinese censorship complex.But I guess you could call this desire to prioritize messages they expect will better resonate with American children, parents and community leaders imperialism. It personally doesn't irritate me as much as the purposefully controversial political subversion of new localizations.
>>284811597I think the only place I actually caught anime somewhat regularly was TV5 back in the day (around like 04 or 05) and maybe some on Cartoon Network (pokémon and the usual) that had a Swedish channel. I did have some Sailor Moon and technically Moomin (though most people consider it a cartoon just cause the source material is fennoswedish) on VHS too.
i don't watch anything dubbed in non-original languages at allI have no opinion whatsover on this shit
>>284811850You're the real genius. You don't even play the game. True enlightenment.
>>284811890I don't know about that, I just don't watch dubs whatsoever so I cant join the convo as I have no opinion
>>284811518What's your aim here? I know you didn't stop reading there so what did you think was gonna, I was just gonna forget that gave you not only one but two east Asian examples, with one covering bases by giving a Japanese one that came before pokemon, and I would just go "oh wow you're right"? This is what I mean by an utterly nosensical persecution complex. Even weirder, you're not Japanese so i can't even imagine how this manifests, a persecution complex for another culture. Do you just want to consider yourself special for consuming Japanese media so you make up some reality where you and only you are tolerant and enlightened enough to hear a Japanese word without recoiling (even though everyone around you is driving Hondas and Toyotas, to their kid's karate class in the evening before they head out to eat sushi at the karaoke for the night)? You're delusional.
>>284811932You're not missing anything
>>284811776>It personally doesn't irritate me as much as the purposefully controversial political subversion of new localizations.I mean, that's largely a personal problem that depends on your personal values so I won't really comment on it, I'm not really hot on the American "left" either as far as I'm concerned but not being american myself I could give less of a shit because it's just two wings of the same bird.If you ask me, all changes fueled by sociocultural interests are bad regardless of the orientation, whether it is something that personally offends my ideology or not doesn't bother me in particular, at worst it makes me a little more irritated just like your case.Thing is these things are also deeply tied by the specific zeitgeist we live in and are not just tied to foreign stuff, most of the time in fact we have issues with the stuff we make for ourselves because "times change" and we look back at old stuff through a different lens and find some things offensive, or things that were previously thought of as offensive become acceptable.See how long running IPs often reinvent themselves to appeal to the changing zeitgeist, e.g what happened to stuff like He-Man
>>284812019>all changes fueled by sociocultural interests are bad regardless of the orientation, whether it is something that personally offends my ideology or not doesn't bother me in particularI can agree with that. The localization of pokemon Gold/Silver , as an example, is complete garbage compared to the Japanese original. It's the main reason why I play it raw. Monks are actual monks instead of angry cross armed skin heads.>most of the time in fact we have issues with the stuff we make for ourselves because "times change" and we look back at old stuff through a different lens and find some things offensive, or things that were previously thought of as offensive become acceptable.That is true. Old stuff I used to find egregious, such as movies like Sharknado or games like ET or Shadow the Hedgehog are fine and enjoyable by my standards today.
>>284802565HOEEEE???
>>284811016sexy
>>284805191This episode was really cute, but the outfit is one of my least favorite.
This is quite possibly the first time I've seen anyone claim that there's actual "nostalgia" for the hack Cardcaptors dub. Even at the time, the consensus seemed to be it was horrible, especially how they tried to edit it to elevate Syaoran to being an equal to Sakura (and failing miserably despite their best efforts).
>>284794625>localizers also remove all the woke agenda LGBT propaganda while keeping in the loli fanservice90’s anime dubs were so fucking based, millennials don’t know how good they had it…
>>284794625is this the one where they try to make Shaoran the main character? I can believe that there are fans of Cardcaptors since I am from the Robotech era. Robotech fans are some of the craziest of the anime fandom.
>>284794991This is unironically what 90% of anime intros sound like you just can't understand the lyrics lol
>>284811492>CCS>for little girlsYou’re thinking of toyetic Toei slop like Sailor Moon or Precure, CCS was for teen girls and the fujo otaku audience.>>284798637>no one ever watched this in the west, it was all sailor moonAnd still CCS manages to mog the ever lasting shit out of Toddler Moon! Go back to your Toeislop containment zone that is /pc/ manchild-kun.
>>284808787That wasn't just a dub thing, Toei did it too. Goku brings a bird back to life in the Cooler movie for some reason.
>>284815771Not really
>>284816735There's also that Aitsu wa Son-Goku song with extremely cheesy lyrics about how Goku fights for love and cries about the existence of evil at night.
>>284794991>>284799320thanks for proving ENG dub superiority
>>284794625I was also like 7 years old
>>284799034>Nu-localizers hate me and wish to lecture me and socially engineer my behavior for their political ends.> The lines and character design were changed only to advance political goalsWhat do you call old localizers only ever censoring anything gay like pic related no matter how chaste it was while leaving all the straight stuff intact no matter how sexualized it was then?
>>284820034Because the "straight stuff" is normal while everything else isn't?
>>284794625There are no "cut episodes" in the original dub. Why do you retards still not understand? they skipped ahead to episode 8 for Cartoon Network and Kids WB, and later dropped it due to poor ratings, but even then, they re-cut a later episode to include a full episode 1 flashback. The show was dubbed and aired completely on dvd and in Canada.
>>284810717>Then they replaced it with this abomination during reruns.wrong, retard. They are two different dubs, dipshit. The first dub was another ocean-funi colab that never made it past 13 episodes, while the 2000s complete dub was by Ocean's budget studio. The second theme is a localization of the French opening.
I'm going to HOEEEE
>>284820446The initial broadcast was different than all reruns and home media.
>>284810515>MUH CULTURAL IMPERIALISM AND MORAL RELATIVISM!!1Your navel-gazing commie university antics have no power here, some things just ARE objectively wrong and barbaric and deserve to be censored, such as anything involving incest or pedo diddy epstein shit that Japan in particular seems so eager to peddle in anime.
>>284821600Pretty nice bait, I must admit
>>284821700And if I do actually think anything incestuous or pedophilic should be censored at least?
Did they censor Terada and Rika's relationship too?
>>284821823>Did they censor Terada and Rika's relationship too?Yes, thankfully. Even the anime already toned it down and censored it some compared to the manga by making it more one-sided on Rika’s part rather than mutual.
>>284821864>thankfully
>>284821913Not all of us are abnormal weebs who want to see pedo shit blud.
>>284821792Then you need a major reality check and seriously consider your current priorities because you're posting in a place where the vast majority of the userbase loves either one or both of those things and has done so since the inception of this website.In other words, you need to go back.
>>284821969/a/ has fallen
>>284801099The FwPC dub aired in the UK as well, but yeah there were a bunch of dubs at the time that were made in North America but never aired there like the Fox Kids/Jetix dub of Shin-chan.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq70KPF76Vg
>>284799034Based king keep speaking the truth and make retards mad
>>284799034How about, Localizers were NEVER good at intentions?
>>284803722The fug?
>>284802472>>284802565Calm down Tomoyo.
cute how turdies still pretend like they didn't censor imported shows to hell and back. the French cut entire arcs out of DBZ for excessive violence, the British refused to air fucking Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles because it glorified the use of weapons. you just know 99% of the posters in this thread are zoomers who were introduced to anime through the internet, and therefore only know about (American) internet anime culture. imagine being so spiritually lost you don't even know your own domestic pop cultural history.
I just watched the first episode for the first time. The animation is cute and the colors are really nice. Maybe it's just my lolicon instincts kicking in but I did notice how there were tons of low-angle shots focused on Sakura's legs and skirt, and how her school uniform exposes her legs almost up to her butt. The little bit after the episode with Kero-chan looking at her uniform in detail felt way hornier than anything I'd expect from a kid's show.
>>284824217Those are first world countries
>>284824432She wears pretty lewd costumes in a first few episodes too but you're not going to see any panties in this show. It's all nuanced.
>>284811396We needed more natural Sakura athleticism. The Jump card was too early. Also the smell of those spats could knock out an entire stadium.
>>284824560whew
>>284801248This is edited right?
>>284794991Actual SOVL
I only barely remember watching Cardcaptors on Kids WB when I was 6. It’s funny thinking back to a memory from that long ago. It’s weird to remember there was a time when I could watch Sakura and have no sexual thoughts.
>>284824949She still gave me a weird, sticky feeling. Even though I couldn't possibly get it up at that age.
>>284794887Most old and really shitty TV dubs do, since they have massive groups of people that got into the franchise through the butchered version and find the real show to be "different and weird". CCS, DBZ, YGO, you name it.
>>284825206>find the real show to be "different and weirdNo on e feels this way btw
>>284816735>>284819259And Toriyama eventually spoke out about how much he disliked that shit. Part of the reason Goku was the way he was in Super was to hammer in to fans that Toei Goku was not what the character was actually like.
>>284826175wasnt because Toriyama started to pander to the american DBZ fanbase because they were the ones who kept the IP alive in the US during the 2000s because of the games?Also Kai only was made beause of 2 reasons, they fucked themselves with the Pokemon Porygon histerya they still to this day believe it was real (it wasnt) and could not air OG DBZ with the flashy lights, so EVERY SINGLE SCENE that had light effects got poorly traced on photoshopped.And also Kai was just filler slot.
>>284825817People shit on Granny Goku and Kikuchi's music all the time.
>>284826744Toriyama doesn't know shit about burger deebeezee, and the American rewritten Goku is even MORE removed from the actual Goku than Toei Goku is >>284808787
>>284827011>people
>>284823573JS lap pillow>>284824560The lack of pantsu in this show is the one thing I’d change. I’m not asking for ecchi, just stuff like the early Pierrot magical girl shows.
Why can't they show JS girls in swimsuits or bare-legged leotards anymore?
>>284827240Lolicons are a dying breed.
>>284827774We lolicons will never die out!!!
i never watched CCS when i was a little kid but had i, i can't imagine sakura not being my first fictional crush.
>>284807197people call me a lolicon or a adobe file but i actually like middle skool grills? yuri yurus did it to me.>inb5 yurifag rage.
>That strange feeling when you’re watching anime, but it also feels like you’re watching a western cartoon.https://files.catbox.moe/a3jw56.mp4
>>284821378I had just looked it up. Nothing I said was incorrect. Nelvana is a Canadian company; the "major" edits, such as "making Li-kun the protagonist", were exclusive to the American market, specifically for Kids WB. CN and them did not finish the show, but all of the episodes were dubbed. That's not the same as, say, a 4Kids dub, which outright has missing episodes.
>>284821378I had just looked it up. Nothing I said was incorrect. Nelvana is a Canadian company; the "major" edits, such as "making Li-kun the protagonist" by skipping ahead, were exclusive to the American market, specifically for Kids WB. CN and them did not finish the show, but all of the episodes were dubbed. That's not the same as, say, a 4Kids dub, which outright has missing episodes.
>>284794625>people have nostalgia for a thing they've seen a billion years agoThis image is dumb as fuck. There are plenty of anime people watched in the past that they probably never rewatched in Japanese so they remain ignorant of any changes. If you were trying to point out hypocrisy in people's thinking you did a bad job.>t. Cardcaptors watcher who stopped feeling nostalgia for it after watching the real Cardcaptor Sakura for the first time
>>284808337>muh FrankfurtDestroyed after WWII, re-created by Dr Money in American universities. Current troon ideology and literature doesn't come from Frankfurt School, it comes directly from Money's work.The concepts of gender and sexuality being social constructs that are used in all of medicine and social sciences today comes from Money as well.>feminismBuveaur was the precursor to modern feminism, but modern feminism was gestated entirely in American academia and denounces Beauvoir as a bigot.>niggers in FranceCurrent black worship and the insistence on retarded shit like reparations all come from America.Other shit like intersectionality and critical race theory (the basis for the entirety of the modern woke movement) are theories created entirely in American academia and sold to the world through American propaganda (Californian movies and TV series, American social media.)I won't even mention rap and hip-hop and the negrification of music thanks to America.>le terminally onlineAnother phenomenon created by American social media.
>>284798869Both are wrong, what the fuck is that twitterfag trying to prove?
You wish you were even half as comfy as she is.
>>284796501sex with this little chinese boy
>>284830764why is kero so big
>>284794991I never even watched the dub, why does this feel nostalgic?
>>284832100Perspective.
>>284798869These both say the same thing just worded differently. Am I missing something?
>>284794991>https://files.catbox.moe/wwazw6.mp4SOVL
Kissing all over her body
>>284826175Super Goku is literally just Toei Goku though
