Chapter 7: "The truth finally comes out?! What the hell are you doing...?"
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>>284809014Is this the cuckhold smile, as opposed to the ntr smile?
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>>284809081>Is this the cuckhold smile, as opposed to the cuckhold smile?
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>>284809269End, see you next month.
>>284809120You know what I mean
I like that author is not dragging the mystery. Obviously they will have to have some heart to heart discussion in next chapter. I guess he will omit the black mail part, and just say he wanted to get into shape.Wife still a bitch, because the moment she relaxed, she figured "no need to change for my pushover husband".
>>284809383The husband still doesn't know that's his wife's cousin with her right? So on top of being busted, he's witnessing his wife having an affair in his eyes right now.
>>284809310I don't actively consume that garbage so no, I don't.
>>284809435Yeah, that's why I expect some serious discussion next chapter.
I wish this manga was more popular.
>>284809873When modern audiences are reminded of fitness and positive health, they become offended. It's sad.
>>284808933Too autistic
>>284808933LMAO, she doesn't even consider it a problem. Guess she really has zero experience.
>>284809286What's your next move?
>>284809081no that's the my mom is kinda homeless smile
>>284809269At least it is a woman pegging him.Seeing your husband being fucked in the ass by a man must would be overwhelming
>>284809383Problem is, this was too fast. Did it get axed?
>>284809269>>284809286I love that she's so excited, that she probably didn't even notice his wife and co-worker. And this goofy horny smaile.
>>284809286This will end in a threesome with the wife becoming friends with the co-worker.
>>284809873Blackmail rape is not a popular subject
>>284810821>Problem is, this was too fast. Did it get axed?Could be, i just caught up and the last 2 chapters have had a terrible turn towards the generic. She's literally no longer the same fmc from the first chapters, and all of the sudden a virgin top
>>284808933>>284808956This is a setup to the daughter and imouto knowing each other, isn't it?Because then the imouto can't just shrug it off.
>>284809055First the phone and now this.Why was she even afraid of the ex?
>>284812647The author/artist is a previous hentai creator, and the most recent 3 manga (see: not hentai) he's created became much more popular to a larger audience than his previous works, so he see's a lot more value "generalizing" his non-pornographic stories because it's getting him much more money and respect.The story is not "axed," but it also wasn't expected to reach as many chapters as it already has. He doesn't plan on making this a 9 Volume length story of 97 chapters that lasts 6 years. It will end shortly by his own volition, but may extend a bit longer because of its fiscal worth (to him and his publisher).
>>284809055I've seen this face somewhere>>284813007I gues, still not feeling comfortable how this ready to fuck stalker musclehead became a little girl
>>284812963Just to be clear about your context:>first the phone = broken by her sheer muscular strength>now this = the keyboard broken by her sheer muscular strengthboth of those actions are result of her (fictionally overpowered) pressure which she accidentally applied due to her surprise/shock about her romantic feelings towards this kind and respectful man.>Why was she even afraid of the ex?Her "fear" of her own previous boyfriend/trainee was NOT "physical endangerment" but her feeling threatened by his hyper-exaggerated clingy-ness and attention, because she does not share the same romantic feelings as he felt and valued her isolation & privacy more than she valued being his girlfriend.Conversely, with this new trainee/officeworker/senpai, she DOES have romantic feelings for him and is DESPERATE to maintain (or increase) her current realtionship with him and will do anything she can to dismiss her previous actions and hide her past from him. Her inexperience with "love" is resulting in these new feeling she's having taking considerably more effect on her life, which she doesn't know how to control (yet). We call this "naive."
>>284812932I sure hope so, would be even more hilarious.
>>284813114>how this ready to fuck stalker musclehead became a little girlShe's able to "fuck" any male, sure, but being "ready-to-fall-in-love" is NOT something she's emotionally prepared for. She seems very introverted and has never really been exposed to "emotional dependancy" before these many months spent with her kind, caring, respectful senpai who trusts her every day for self-improvement. She's discovering that sort of respect is a WONDERFUL feeling and she might be falling in love for the first time and has NO IDEA how to behave, now. It may even be corrupting her established relationship with him, since her previous actions as a "ready-to-fuck stalker" meant blackmailing him and never fucking him... but she wants her new actions as a "emotionally loving and dependant kouhai" to lead to romantic progress, so she Google-searching how to change her behavior to succeed. Continuing to blackmail and threaten no longer seems to be the romantically successful option to get her senpai to fall-in-love with her.The manga has a story we're viewing, and it seems the characters' growths are starting to have more than a physical impact on BOTH of their lives (not just "general improvement of health, family, and work" for the male).When discussing manga and topics and basically any interest, it's always a good thing to reconsider what you value about that topic and how you define those parameters.What does this manga mean to you? What has happened in it? Why do you like it?When you make that clear for yourself, and others, discussing it not only becomes easier, but also more fun, too!
I can forgive the cute daughter for acting like a lil shit in the beginning. And Wife is justified for being suspicious, but why hasn’t she put out yet? MC is looking to be jacked as fuark and has a razor jawline, with cardio gains. He would certainly last much longer in her sugarwalls. >>284809152Wife should at least get into SS and build her ass, the office wheyfu is mogging her hard. She should’ve also admitted the other dude was her cousin.
>>284811200Threesome will only happen if the wife gets her own training arc to get jacked.
You guys dont really think there's gonna be any real cheating in this manga, right? It will always turn out to be some misunderstanding.
One last for Ayase, may she find love w salary man, and screw his stupid wife.
>>284814724Poor fmc then, imagine having your character development and still not fucking the old man
>>284816792After the Rain did that, and was great.
>>284817414I hated it, if that smoking convenience store manga does that too...
Disappointed with the lack of MAIDEN IN LOVE panels this chapter.
>>284818247Nah, I'm pretty sure that one gonna end with them together.
>>284813007>The author/artist is a previous hentai creatorCan't find anything, in any booru, pixiv or sad panda, did he go with another pen name?
Wonder if there's gonna be any crossovers with this workout maniac from his other manga.
>>284808908No matter how cute she is i will never support a homewrecker
>>284809232she's a pegger alright
>>284820072That's part of this story's conundrum: is she better, or worse, than his wife? And does she deserve a change in her conditions for reward from "be muscular" to "love me?"Before the story begins, he is a lazy good-for-nothing who is>not healthy>disrespected by everyone (especially his wife and daughter)>self-hatingBut when she (trainer kouhai) takes interest and literally forces him to improve his health, for months and months, he>becomes fit>attractive>respected by everyone (even his wife and daughter... if only a little bit)and basically every facet of his life, ranging from health to focus to finances to work to family to emotions all improve. They improve noticeably and even shockingly well.A man who simply lived his life by his own choices, which didn't include good diet or exercise, became a fool who no one respected and was living a (commonly) dull life... and he hated himself for making his own choices which led to a "loveless" outcome. His wife, daughter, and workplace don't support him. He's unhappy.But when someone else (a young female trainer kouhai) invests her own time and interests in making him strong and healthy, under the single condition that "he does what she commands or else she'll socially blackmail him," he agrees and becomes an ideal man. His kouhai, though aggressive, supports him. He's happy.And now we are reaching the ultimatum of the story; who deserves the reward?Thanks to his kouhai, the man is beloved and he's happy. Without his kouhai, this outcome would NOT happen and he would have remained unloved and unhappy. He appreciates his kouhai... but he's not romantically interested in her. Conversely, she WASN'T romantically interested in him... but now she is.Her previous desire/reward was for him to "become beautiful, how I define it (muscular)." When he reaches that outcome, she wins.Now, her desire/reward has changed... now, she wants him to "love me, romantically."Can it be justified?
>>284820690Well his wife is a bitch who told him he's too old (41) to have a sex drive.
>>284820690Socially, on my terms, the best possible outcome is1. All his gym-training is revealed to wife, daughter, and workplace. Kouhai is the reason he's become a better man.2. He tells kouhai "no," he won't engage with her romantically.3. Immediately after he openly thanks her for how much she's helped him.4. His wife immediately thanks her for how much she's improved him.5. His daughter idolizes her about how to invest in hobbies and act, professionally, thanking her for knocking her Dad back into shape.6. Everyone she's helped, even if only by proxy through his training, openly thanks her for all her investments and efforts.7. Everyone promises they will continue to support her and begin/continue training alongside her; since following her diet and exercise plans clearly shows how much better their lives will be, in both health and community, if they meet her standards and improve themselves.8. Everyone recognizes, empathizes, or even sympathizes that his legal and moral responsibility to maintain his marriage without infidelity can be a hard thing (for both him and her), but they promise to be her friend and give her their support to meet an equal (or better!) partner.9. They remain friends who support each other towards a stronger future and remain thankful to each other for respecting each other's trust.In reality... he'd probably cheat a few times, or for a short time, until his wife finds out.Then, they'd either divorce (blaming him) or wife would have to accept his affair was justified given her own dismissive support and that koihai's immense support, admitting her own faults and forgiving him. A morally "non-ideal" family (by Christian values), but unremarkable for its events.We'll see.
>>284821176And that's where argument and discussion take place between readers; what are the parameters of marriage?Does any woman give her husband all the sex he wants, regardless of his negative actions? Or is the marriage proving its worth when her unwillingness to sexually please him motivates him to improve? After all, the outcome of her "bitchiness" has led to ENORMOUS improvement! It's only AFTER he's improved that she recognizes her assumptions were wrong, and she's frightened by it.Will she begin to improve as his wife now?Should she ALWAYS have been perfect?Are we blame shifting the potential for negative "affair" actions to the other person? Are either recognizing their own faults and taking responsibility?Is the kouhai ONLY an improvement?Is the kouhai ONLY a threat?Is she both?Is the kouhai actually SATAN, who is nearly omniscient and is manipulating everyone around her for purely sinful joys?Is the kouhai very naive and childish who is only considering one thing?Is the right response to OPENLY MURDER her?To deny her and ignore her for all the future?To deny her but continue the current relationship, hoping her interests wane?To deny her but openly support her with encouragement to find another romantic partner who meets her standards?To relent, and romantically give her what she wants, all the time, forever?There's a lot to consider for what seems like a fairly short, simple story!
>>284809286Lost hard. Ayase's faces are beautiful.
>>284809204LEWD.
>>284821454>Does any woman give her husband all the sex he wantsShe didn't say "I'm not in the mood" she said "you're too old to be horny". Which taken at face value means she thinks he (and she, assuming they're about the same age) should be celibate forever regardless of health or attitude. More probably she's just generally rude and dismissive. Either way she played no part in motivating MC to improve himself; he's motivated only by blackmail and the mistaken impression that he can repel his blackmailer by losing weight. All his wife did was make him feel worse about himself.
>>284824453"Misfortune" can often times be the #1 largest motivator for a human to act in their lives. Whether it's a mythological story about Greek gods, folklore from colonial American towns, or just your own memories reminiscing how seeing your aunt drown to death after she rescued you from falling in a river because you didn't know how to swim... experiencing a bad event can frequently be so strikingly poignant to change your own behavior, nothing could even come close in some cases.You're right; she's bitchy.But, then again, maybe he deserved it? They had 20 years of marriage, and he's failing her expectations.Maybe her expectations were to high?Maybe she's being unfair?Maybe he deserved his fate because of his laziness?Maybe his laziness is derived from her lack of support?Did they make the right choice to marry?Did circumstances change?But you can't dismiss that she is his wife, he is unhappy with her behavior, and he does take blame for it. All those characteristic DOES help convince him to relent to this crazy kouhai's training plan; it's not JUST "blackmail." If his wife was loving and supportive and "spoiling" him with everything he wanted, no-matter-what... he might dismiss his kouhai's threats of lying blackmail since his loving wife would instantly forgive him!Is she justified?Was this her best action to take?A "perfect life" is hard to define given so many different people and so many actions available. Wife's "bitchiness" is, indeed, a motivator for husband to improve... it's ALSO one of her own most significant faults that could cost her a safe marriage and a stable life! It certainly unfortunate for him, but it could be even more of a misfortune for her...
>>284824930You could even compare "a wife's bitchiness" as being so small and common to "getting a hole in your sock" because you've worn it for 8 years. That hole in your sock (misfortune) finally motivates you to buy a new pair of socks. And, if you're smart enough, you research what's available and at what price and discover a brand of sock that is both 5x more expensive than any pair of socks you've ever owned... but also so high quality and remarkable it's mind-shattering just what you've been missing out on that it INSTANTLY becomes worth the $18 you spent, you'll purchase 4 more, and you'll give 10 more as presents to your Mom, Dad and basically everyone you care about, saying, "you'll never believe me until you wear these, they're so amazing!"All because the misfortune of a hole led you to change your brand.All because the misfortune of a bitch led you to change your desire to go to the gym for an hour instead of coming home.Maybe your changes, and improvements (if you share them), will lead her to want to change, too!Maybe not...Back to directly relating to the story, her bitchiness isn't exactly life-threatening, just merely disappointing. And, before his statuesque composure, he kind of deserved it. Then again, now that he's a nearly righteous man, she's feeling a lot of guilt for her own failures to support him. Actions have outcomes, and people should take responsibilities for them, good and bad.
>>284809269Is it still NTR if the husband getting pegged by another woman?
>>284819630Wasn't there another oneshot that our girl Ayase appeared?
>>284821217why the fuck are you judging a Japanese manga by Christian valuescan you fucking insufferable shits ever give it a rest? fuck Jesus and fuck you, faggot
>>284809190Cute homewrecker
>>284809286Ayase isn't even registering what's happening, lol.
>>284809114Why are they angry at him, when it's them fucking at public gym?
>>284809072>Is leaving work on time trending right now?Jesus Christ, Japan.
>>284826727She definitly looks similar, but I don't think its her.
>>284809014Is it normal for Japan to have intercoms in their rooms?
Hope it will become popular, the longer it goes.
>>284829600Are you sure it's not her?
>>284829328Fight or flight kicked in and it’s hard to run away when you’re in the middle of having random public sex
>>284827363Heh. Hahaha. Lol.Literally THOUSANDS of text discussing a Japanese comic in English on what is clearly a morally framed fitness story about personal values... and the second I mentioned "Christian" is when an Anonymous ignores everything and simply becomes offended and screams and makes his own moral tyraid insults.No "come to the thread, discuss its theme,"no "come to the thread, discuss its events,"no "come to the thread, discuss personal experiences by comparison,"no "come to the thread, talk to other people and listen to what they think,"just>Crtl+F "christian">Result 1/1>AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I mentioned it (THAT WORD) knowing this would happen, really, but also with the hopes that perhaps it would initiate other religious/cultural/familial values about why this scenario is "moral" to anyone reading the story. Maybe they're more familiar with Hinduism? Buddhism? Japanese Shintoism? Maybe this written for a 10-year-old audience? 20-year-old? 40-year-old? Unfortunately, it just became a Twitter "trigger" hate-speech. Oh well. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year.I'm giving you a (You) because I find your post ambiguously humorous. And now hidden.
>>284829767When I lived in Japan, the "intercom" was actually just inter-connecting outside the front door to either just inside the front door or the Master bedroom. And yes, nearly ALL houses and apartments had that intercom. That was my experience before the year 2000, though.Anyway, yes. Japanese homes commonly have intercoms.Both houses I lived in in Alabama and Nebraska had intercoms in them, too, connecting about 3 different rooms on all 3 floors (total of 9 intercoms)... but they were big houses.
>>284833981Interesting. Thx.
