The people who hated the ending were people who already hated the series.

>>284809633
Deku didn't even build the suit himself like Iron Man. Now he's just an average guy.

>>284810413
Yeah, just like how Spiderman is just a normal guy. That's the whole point. Anyone can be a hero. Deku got One For All mostly through pure luck. He was just in the right place at the right for All Might to notice him. Had it not been for that, it would've likely been Mirio who inherited it.

>>284810413
he's an average guy with tremendous courage and heroism and a significant wealth of experience fighting against villains

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>>284809633
dont you forget about me

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>>284810376
>>284809633

>>284810952
Nice

>>284809633
>pretending bonus chapter was always there
Kek

>>284811089
There is no damage control because none of those things were true to begin with

>>284809633
>fulfills his dream of being a famous hero,
No. He failed and became a teacher.
>literally even little kids knows about him
Deku didn't even get a statue
>fulfilling job as a teacher at the most well-known school in the country
>fulfilling
>still does heroics using his super-suit
A pity suit given to him by his bully. He didn't build it himself or anything. Deku has no volition of his own and this confirms it. If All Might didn't hand him a quirk he'd still be a sadsack watching heroes work and if Bakugou didn't give him a super suit he'd still be a sadsack teacher watching kids succeed where he failed.

>>284811089
The copium is real in this image

If the ending was fine why are there so many threads trying very hard to tell me its fine?

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>>284811089
The real reason the ending was fixed

>>284815572
>No. He failed and became a teacher.
>Deku didn't even get a statue
You weren't paying attention did you?

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>>284809633
I will always have a problem with the narrative pretending that Deku was particularly more heroic than literally everybody else and how him looking pathetic is somehow inspiring. It's frankly insulting especially when you think about the better characters around him. Beyond punching harder he didn't even try to cause any of the necessary changes in society. In the end he was just a delivery vessel for OfA which there were many other better options

All Might is still the goat and by the end even Urakaka has a better case since she's actually trying to fix things. Even as far as the teacher thing goes, which still is a complete asspull that he never even began to develop, teaching kids already good enough to get into UA is kinda silly considering his background. Imagine if he didn't randomly bump into bowlkid. I guess the main point is Deku is an insanely underwhelming character in the end

>Deku managed to save the world from the embodment of evil and his puppet, becoming the hero he always wanted to be.
>Series is CONSTANTLY telling you there is more to being a hero than hitting things, like helping others (Such as teaching kids).
>"Deku sucks because he gave up on his dream and should've been beating people up in a world where someone could randomly blow your head up by looking at you instead of being a teacher lol"
Also though forced, the suit does *kinda* make sense if you consider Bakugo was crying when he saw Deku lost OFA back in the hospital after the final fight, so it makes sense he would've wanted to show he wanted to make amends for how long he treated Deku like shit.

>>284810902
nigga what, spiderman was bitten by a radioactive spider, hes still extraordinary even without being gifted a hightech suit by ironman

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>>284809633
I don't give a fuck about Deku
Uraraka deserves way more credit for addressing the true villain of the series - bad parenting.

>>284816392
You do realize there's a major difference between teaching kids shit like math and reading and teaching the next generation of sociey's future defenders righ?
Hori should've just had Deku say at one point before Chap 430 that he would wanted to use his experience to help others if he ever lost OFA. Doesn't need to say he would become a teacher but close enough

love me some ochaco tits

>>284816653
Every pro hero except deku…

>>284816508
Imagine if Ochako was the MC

>>284815684
Because that's how opinions go.
>one guy says it's shit
>the other guys agree
>someone else says it's good and doesn't get the hate
>other people agree

>>284815684
Because you keep spamming threads seething about a headcanon ending that never happened out of an unusual degree of spite

>>284815684
If it was bad why are you trying so hard to tell me it was bad

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>>284817032
she is to me.

>>284817032
She's unironically more likable than Deku so I would have been fine with it.

>>284817216
What happened was a clusterfuck of fixup chapters trying to remedy a final serialized chapter that had Captain Useless looking depressed, being upbraded by Aizawa, and a Void Decade which had no character growth despite the mid-teens to mid-twenties age up.

>>284817216
>>284817295
Quit projecting. Ive seen the same "why does everyone not like the ending boo hoo?" thread for a week straight.

>>284818591
Because people whined about the ending for months after the manga ended, and now anime-onlies are catching up and realizing the whining made no sense.

>>284809633
because he is supposed to be a liability with that 'supersuit', he hasnt done any hero shit in 8 years since losing OfA. everyone else, even fucking Mineta are more of a hero than him, not because they have powers, but because they ACTUALLY WERE IN THE FIELD all that time.

if they wanted to sell us on the supersuit, Bakugo shouldnt have made it a secret, and Deku should have worked on it day one. Testing, learning how to use it, giving input, training. but he didnt do any of that, he CANNOT be a Top5 hero like that.

>>284819337
How isn't Deku a hero?

>>284819586
did you even read? he has been out of the game for OCHO PUTOS AÑOS. and yet we are supposed to believe he mastered that suit, a suit he knew nothing about in such a short time he became world's #4 top hero?

sure, he can be considered a hero because he did defeated/saved shiggy and all that, but HE. CANNOT. BE. A HERO. NOW!

>>284819337
Didn't he still have OfA for a while after losing it? And we don't know how long he had the suit for it could've been years. Deku could've gradually transitioned from OfA -> supersuit as he lost his powers

>>284819675
You do realize the fucking point of the series is that there's more to being a hero thanhitting things right? Even Deku's friends weren't going around beating people up in the epilogue. (Granted there's the robber in 431 but there will always be crime even when things are more peaceful)
I am kinda with you with the suit though but still.

>>284819946
you are correct, im not denying the themes and message of the series.

my problem is the time and how it correlates to Deku becoming a hero again. and it just cannot work. specially when again, whether if its them beating criminals, saving the environment, or even giving lectures in children's classrooms like Ochaco also does, everyone has been doing hero stuff far longer than Deku did. and i mean FAR longer.

>>284820021
Didn't he only become Rank 4 after a few months after getting the suit?

>manga ends
>everyone agrees the ending is shit
>anime ends
>suddenly ending defenders
Why is this so common?

>>284820021
the series never bothered to reconcile the difference between a "true hero" and a "pro hero" which makes Deku's situation confusing to go along with his general passiveness. It's trying to have it's cake and eat it too at the end so it feels shitty. The whole "anybody can be a hero" thing feels tone deaf when it's immediately followed by "here is this real hero stuff though"

>>284820047
He was in the 90s before the suit in the new ranking system Hawks developed since it includes civilians. He became 4th after the suit when he was able to do more proactive hero work.

>>284820159
A "pro hero" deals with stuff that regular people can't or are having trouble dealing with like villains and major disasters like landslides or not enough rescue workers and firefighters to save people from a major fire.

A "true hero" is someone who helps others because it's the right thing to do IE the old lady at the end of 429.

>>284820589
>He was in the 90s before the suit in the new ranking system Hawks developed since it includes civilians.
Sorry forgot that since I only read the manga. Was it added to the anime?

>>284820836
anime finished. It should be in one of the epilogue episodes from after the battle.

>>284820892
I forgot, Deku being mentioned in the 90s might be from chapter 431, or in the ultra age book or the fan book. I don't remember.

>>284809633
>latefags who weren't there when the actual ending came out now come in here going "erm, its fine actually?" after reading the updated ending
Mass Effect 3 syndrome

>>284816467
Peter is also very smart. To the point that he'd be a 2nd Reed Richards if he keeps it up.
He's both a science guy, got powers from a spider and he created his gadgets and suit by himself.
Not to mention he created his trademark web and web-shooters.

>>284810902
Spider-Man was never a normal guy.
Peter Parker was already gifted with great smarts before he got his powers.
He's all but normal even before getting his powers.
Throw out that current Marvel shit because Spider-Man is more than With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility.

>>284809633
>super-suit
This right here. Not only does Deku not have any quirk of his own, but what he does have could easily be stolen and duplicated by any evil or greedy organization, making him essentially useless in that scenario.

>>284821937
Worry about that for a sequel.
Even though it's going to be aliens.

>>284815288
that is real in your mind

If its not damage control, why is chapter 431 episode months after the show finale? It feels last minute. Its fucking weird.

>>284809633
No one will be speaking about this series in 10 years

>>284809633
it was good

Really wish All Might had one last appearance in his muscle form in the final battle. Nothing prolonged, maybe literally a single scene of him beefing up to save Deku or something, to show "the ember fades but never completely vanishes" sort of thing. Would've been a great swan song

Eww I don’t date quirkless boys…

>>284809633
fulfills his dream of being a famous hero, literally even little kids knows about him
Coasting off of peaking in highschool
>fulfilling job as a teacher at the most well-known school in the country
Which is barely even focused on since even Hori knows how lame being a teacher is
>still does heroics using his super-suit
More free shit given to him so he doesn't actually have to work to attain his goals.

>wahhh I can’t be a hero
All night hands him the most powerful quirk
>wahh I can’t be hero I lost my quirk
All night gives him super power suit

Why does anyone like this weak docile crybaby with no sense of urgency? It’ll be different if he worked behind the scenes to help build the suit through his past experience but nope just waits for another handout

>"Captain America lost an entire leg defeating Ultron and is now teaching kids instead of beating people up?"
>"What a faggot!"
>"And now Iron Man and the Avengers have chipped in to get him a high-tech replacement leg?"
>"That faggot did nothing to earn it so he sucks!"

Ironically, Deku and everyone DID manage to do something most superheroes never have: usher in a new era of peace after Deku 100% destroyed the embodiment of pure evil (Though his real body and mind got turned into a fetus awhile ago).
There isn't even a civil war or someone randomly becoming a facist cunt.

>>284825580
That never happened

>>284825832
Exactly

>>284826082
It did happen to decuck tho

Sooooo that quirk singularity?

>>284826472
they'll figure it out in the future, probably

>>284826410
But if it happened to Cap nobody would give a fuck.

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>>284825580
don't you ever compare that fag Deku to Cap

>>284826857
If it happened to Cap It'd go one of two ways
>A) be content with everything and just be phased out to let a new generation take over after a long career of saving the planet instead of just one year as an inexperienced rookie
or
>B) He'd chip in for that high-tech replacement leg from the get go and get back to saving lives instead of spending 8 years on the sidelines

>>284809633
because theyre unfulfilled

>>284827139
Shut the fuck up

>>284826949
I disagree.
Cap, even crippled, would still be a veteran soldier with decades of experience fighting everything from regular dudes in funny uniforms to aliens, a seasoned tactician capable of coordinating and supervising superpowered individuals, and a genuinely charismatic leader who's not afraid to tell someone to fuck off if he thinks they're being retarded, no matter how powerful said someone is.
Even if Ultron rewrote reality so that Cap can only ever have a wooden peg leg, Cap would most likely stay with SHIELD and coordinate/train Avengers teams, plan against Hydra, AIM or whoever is trying to take over the world on that particular Monday. Hell, it wouldn't be impossible for him to just become full time director of SHIELD.

>>284827839
We're more or less saying the same things here, although "phased out" was the wrong word for me to use. Adopting a mentorship role, maybe? Dunno.
Either way there's no scenario where he'd be out for eight years like Deku was; he'd still be heavily involved with superheroes whether it's in a commanding role or having dealt with losing a limb and getting back into action after some time to recovery.

>>284827963
>Either way there's no scenario where he'd be out for eight years like Deku was
Yeah, it really boils down to EIGHT FUCKING YEARS problem. Which by itself is just one last symptom of Hori's main problem - complete lack of sense of scale and pacing. I honestly believe that basically every criticism that people throw against MHA can be perfectly explained by that. The manga has, without exaggeration, a completely bipolar approach to it's narrative. I could go on a rant and elaborate, but even if we focused on Deku's ending, all complaints about it basically disappear if you don't put a timeskip before giving him the suit, or at least give Deku The Teacher some spotlight before throwing in the suit.

>>284815846
Bodycount?

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>>284810919
courage is fighting villains at a disadvantage.
coward Deku runs and hides like a pussy if he isn't handed for free a Quirk or a Suit that's better than all the villain's quirks and all the other hero's quirk.
He's not brave. Men are brave.

>>284829573
>if he isn't handed for free a Quirk
How about seven of them at once, AND he can use them better than the original owners (but not really)
Deku storyline is completely schizophrenic, he's both overpowered to all fuck but at the same time has weird limits that end up not mattering in the slightest anyway (oh he can't go 100% cuz it will break him, but uuuh he can fight at that level anyway because seven quirks).

>>284826905
Honestly, comparing Deku to Steve Rogers is just a massive fucking insult to Steve. Steve never really wanted to be a super soldier or hero, he just wanted to serve his country during WW2, and couldn't because he had a shitty body.

>>284809633
"This is the story of how I became the world's greatest hero."

>>284809633
You mean Bakugo and All Might fulfilled Deku's dream.
What did Deku do to fulfil his dream.
Work his way up from nothing as a Gen Ed/Police Cadet/Apprentice? Change society so people stopped valuing the best superpowers as what counts as heroism? Or nothing at all and only be a hero when he's given the best quirk or the best suit?
If you guessed C you'd be correct.

I think I have never dropped a manga that I liked so much because the MC never grew up from being a little bitch and remained a little bitch the entire series.
Even when he became extremely OP with all the extra quirks, he became a fucking edgelord for a brief moment and went back to acting like a bitch.
Deku is my biggest disappointment in recent manga and I wished that Mirio had become the protagonist.

>>284831849
Same anon, so much the same.

>>284831849
a bitch because he sheds tears? he doesnt do anything bitchy in the series

>>284831827
funny because B is actually what happened

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>>284809633
>why did people hate the ending again?
because Hori cucked out the best ship

>>284809633
Deku was always lame. He seems to be exclusively liked by retards who think it's profound to be a shy loser who cries a lot.

If Deku DID end up a passive bitch at then end then he would've done nothing against Shiggy for One but stand around with his finger in his ass while everyone else does the work and then actually proceed to work at McDonalds crying every day after losing OFA.

>>284832159
The Pro Hero system is still in place and Deku gives up being a hero because he doesn’t have a better quirk than everyone anymore. It isn’t.

>>284832810
The one and only reason he stepped up to Shiggy is he still has the embers, and the embers were able to onepunch Shiggy.
That’s 0 heroism from Deku, 100 just OFA doing all the work for him.
He’s not a hero, the quirk that All Might stockpiled is.

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>>284832147
Giving up being a hero because you don’t have stronger superpowers than all your enemies makes you a bitch.
If everyone in the world gave up the second they faced adversity, we’d never have evolved.

>>284832859
So OFA-less Deku should've just ran up and kicked Shiggy in the balls?

>>284832943
If he were a man, yes.
He's nothing without handouts. Not a hero, not a man.

>>284832834
>>284832886
So he's not a hero whatsoever because he isn't hitting things?

>>284832943
Knuckleduster would have. Deku would cower and put his finger up his ass.

>>284832959
Is he helping the quirkless and their rights to heroism? Or helping the injured as an EMT? Or keeping villains imprisoned as a police officer?
Nah he's just being a nepoteacher at a school where he's unqualified to teach and they don't allow the quirkless to come in. Some "hero" he turned out to be.

>>284832943
Unironically yes. Would've showed he's more than the things All Might built. Then he'd go out someone worthy of respecting.

>>284832952
>>284832965
>"Noooooo he should've just ran up and punched someone stuffed with a fuckload of quirks and had just caused countless destruction as well as nearly killing his friend!"

>>284833045
>countless destruction
your indian grammar aside, what do Shiggy's crimes have to do with the fact Deku is a nepobaby who is a cowardly pussy without a quirk or a suit?

>>284832988
>Is he helping the quirkless and their rights to heroism?
So he should've become a politician?

>>284833086
It means absolutely nobody could do shit against him without OFA. Even if others used their quirks they would only be able to *slightly* tire him down.

>>284833105
or an activist. His friends are doing that, Octopus man is helping people like Spinner before they become villains, and Ochako people like Toga.

>>284833128
You're a writer and it's your story, write around it and make Deku someone worthy of respect instead of a pussy holding a better man's quirk.

>>284833146
Thing is quirkless aren't discriminated or can become anarchistic psychopaths if their childhood is shit.

>>284833156
So all giant robot series suck because the MC doesn't beat up their giant enemy on-foot?

>>284809633
cause he wasnt the number one strongest shonen battle guy and didnt pump the main girl full of toddlers

>>284833202
I assumed they are, by UA's dumbass Hero entrance exam and the fact Gen Ed kids like Shinso are excluded and the fact baby Deku was bullied for not having a quirk

manga-only fag here, are any of the movies worth watching?

>>284833353
no.

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>>284819337
>even fucking Mineta are more of a hero than him
>so in the low end of hero society in the end he might be mall cop or a mini store security guy with a disability

Yeah deku ended up way better.

>>284821802
>Peter is also very smart.
>not really hes smart in science but is a retard in time management and social cues. If he was that smart, he'd be scouted by the top science heroes since the daybreak became a superhero.

>>284821846
>Peter Parker was already gifted with great smarts before he got his powers.

But he uses his powers in a shirt sighted way, nothing but a glorified beat cop. Deku at least has the intelligence to teach similar children about hero development.

>>284826905
>Posts Steven being a hypocrite that wouldn't have the ability to fight without being a steroid pumped weapon for the united states

>>284833362
Deku gave up on heroism, Mineta's still in the leaderboards even if it's not the Top Ten.
Way more of a hero, even though you seethe at him for fucking Momo kek

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>>284809633
This, it always bothers me that Deku felt so feminime even for dorky shounen MC, kinda makes me wish MHA was bishoujo from the start

>>284833128
there's countless ways you could've written around that, as the author.
>give AFO a weakness and have Deku study and exploit it
>make Deku lose his quirk before the Final War, but use the growth he's had to lead a last charge nonetheless, equipped with weapons and Support Gear like Knuckleduster does
>have Deku coordinate a strategy between all the heroes to beat him, using his supposed expertise on their quirks to win (maybe Stain shows up and doesn't die immediately, or Neito copies AFO and steals it, or Aizawa's erasure actually does something)
>have Deku's transferral switch off the All for One quirk temporarily, so now Deku and Shiggy have to fight without any quirks
As the writer you can write anything. Even have Deku just challenge him to switch off his quirk and fight like a man, and write Shiggy accepting. Instead OFA just does everything as usual and onepunches him with the embers, because Deku is not cool or a hero once it's goes away.

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>>284832754
Indeed

>>284833419
Dude. He's content with being a street hero and still he ends up in situations that are above street hero levels.
And he did teach people about being a super hero. Thing is Marvel doesn't capitalize on this aspect.

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>>284833389
Not my fault Marvel has shit writing.

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>>284833450
>Way more of a hero, even though you seethe at him for fucking Momo kek
>Momo is so beyond Mineta in every single aspect of his league, she would send invitations to a party for the top 20 and pics of her blowing Todoroki, while Mineta only sits in his low rent apartment like a pathetic voyer crying he can't get any, after working full time the local mini mall hero.

Deku is also invited because hes at least a person who is well respected and famous before he retired

>>284833707
that sure is a lot of you being a self-inserter stinking up your mom's basement, when in canon Momo and Shoto never even interacted in the epilogue.

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>>284833611
>Dude. He's content with being a street hero and still he ends up in situations that are above street hero levels.
>Dude. Hes constantly bitching and moaning about hero hero life and his normal life while being beat up, cucked, mocked and looked over by heroes, women and mostly his own self depreciation in never doing more for others and himself. Literally current spiderman is torment porn.

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>>284833776
>tdlr
> hates its canon

Cope

>>284833925
Not my fault Marvel is hellbent on making him miserable.

>>284833202
quirkless are being discriminated, we have seen that in chapter1. Plus "weak appearing quirks" are being discouraged to become heroes by, once again, bullies.
By pure chance Deku happened to meet one of those cases, and what did he do as this super famous teacher OP made him out to be? Made the kid freak out with his autism, where the kid has learned nothing

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>>284833776
They had one whole panel of interaction

>>284834128
they certainly do stand next to eachother while she donates

>>284834087
maybe he should tell the kid his own motivational lifestory of how he became a Hero despite not having a quirk.
oh wait...

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>>284834128
>>284834156
Better and more than Mineta Momo brainrot

>>284833776
Nice projection.

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>>284834128
Hori has always nodded to Todoroki and Momo being a potential thing, hes just too balless to do it since he doesnt care for Todoroki outside of his family and more so how Deku gets all the character focusm