Films became art within 10 years of its inception. Music has been present as a form of human expression and communication since the earliest periods of human existence, effectively making it an "art form" since its inception. Anime still aren't considered art by anyone that isn't an anime fan for close to 100 years now since its inception back in 1917.For it to be considered art, it needs to be made by a VERY limited group of people, where all members have a clear vision in mind and in-sync, and it must NOT be made for the intention of making money. The vast majority of anime do not fulfill this criteria.The only anime that have transcended into art are Hayao Miyazaki, Osamu Tezuka and Satoshi Kon. But those are exceptions, not the rule.Prominent producers like Taro Maki has criticized the industry's overreliance on safe, proven formulas (adaptations of successful manga and light novels) to avoid financial risk, which stifles creative growth and experimentation with original ideas. Even Anno and Oshii have both conceded that anime are more like an art museum because they encompass forms of art (drawings, paintings, music) to sell to the public, museums are not an artform in itself.
>>284813757So what?
>>284813757Sure. I don't like art anyway
>>284813757>it must NOT be made for the intention of making moneyso reinaissance paintings aren't artfilm isn't artgreek statues aren't art
>>284813757>Kon westoidslop>no mention of Takahata3/10 made me reply, at least you didn't mention Oshiit
>e-celeb photo>le art caption
>>284813757>For it to be considered art, it needs to be made by a VERY limited group of people, where all members have a clear vision in mind and in-sync, and it must NOT be made for the intention of making money. The vast majority of anime do not fulfill this criteria.The vast majority of film, music and published literature does not fulfill this criteria either. By the time something gets published its been passed through so many producers and editors its usually not much more than a product.>Anime still aren't considered art by anyone thatSome products can still have art-like quality, and sometimes that's enough to elicit a meaningful feeling. I don't need a critic to tell me what is good and bad, or how to feel about what I watch, read or listen to, or what can "technically" be considered art. Stop being such a pretentious faggot.
>>284813757>The only anime that have transcended into art are Hayao MiyazakiNothing screams art like hiring live-action actors and celebrities as voice actors to market your anime.
>>284813757>Anime will NEVER be artGood.
>>284813757Most "art" enjoyers are inscure midiwits that need to feel different>For it to be considered art, it needs to be made by a VERY limited group of people, where all members have a clear vision in mind and in-sync, and it must NOT be made for the intention of making money. The vast majority of anime do not fulfill this criteria.I was thinking of writing something but I just realized it's low quality bait
>>284813757Yes, it sucks. I'm almost giving up with anime.
>>284813757[Good News]Hopefully pretentious fart sniffers accept this and fuck off.
>>284813757Why are dumb bait threads like this allowed?
>>284814566because they generate more conversation than meaningful threads
>>284814076>e-celeb photobased
>>284813757>Films became art within 10 years of its inception.Someone hasn't watched anything from the 1910s. If you think the vast majority of those movies are more artistic than the average anime you're retarded. Though my definition of art isn't identical to my definition of good like yours seems to be, where something has to nebulously be "art" for you to enjoy it. But at the same time you somehow think normalfag shit like Miyazaki movies are art.
>>284813757>Anime will NEVER be artGood. It's something better.
>>284813757what makes you want to post this shit to support "designer handbag" tier elitism
>>284813945>>284814149>>284814400Do you see anime anywhere in this list?And before anyone says "anime are consisted of drawings/paintings and music and literary!", that makes anime closer to a museum, not an art.
>>284813757Pretty sure once Miyazaki dies he reincarnates bag in time as Colonel Sanders
>>284816261Who cares? Should we feel ashamed? You want us to stop enjoying anime or something?
>>284816261>drawingOH NO
>>284813757bro tried to sneak in kon
>>284813757Cinema is not even art on the first place.
>>284816261>"Anime isn't art, it's a museum!"Lmao, why should anyone take pseudo seriously?
>>284813757I'm just here to express my extreme disdain towards anyone making these kinds of retarded arguments
Films are infinitely inferior than anime. Get any random shounen or slice of life and they're better than any movie
Anime is already art because i consider it art.>B-but i don't agreeYour opinion is irrelevant to me because i don't experience you
I don't care what anime is and I don't watch it to prove something to myself or others. Jerking off isn't sex but you'll still do it.
