https://files.catbox.moe/g456ua.mp4>forget about living alongside demigods and great heroes, fighting demons and gods, forget it all and be a Japanese salary manWhat did Nasu mean by this?
It's the fucking Evangelion manga ending again. How many times do the japanese have to rehash the same shit ending before they're satisfied?
Its a japboomer thing at this point.
>>284819317HAVE A PLUS ULTRA DAY
>>284819317>"Stop wanking off to virtual barbies and go get a life."
>>284819317Are they actually closing FGO down or what?
>>284819568The Main story is done-zo. They planed to have a Valentine's event and a New Years servant, but past that there's kind of nothing in the pipeline that anyone knows about. Maybe they'll trickle out non-canon events and add replayability QOL features.
>>284819402>>284819317>>284819449It is a classic worldwide trope you retardEven Alive has to go back to the real world after her adventure in wonderland Only neets and the like would prefer to stay in their fantasy land forever
>>284820046Narnia handled this much better.
>>284820046Alice returns from the Wonderland... sure.But Narnians get isekai'd into Heaven.And Frodo gets to live an eternal life of elvish pussy in elvish Heaven.Atreides wins the freedom for Arrakis.Hercules becomes a god at Olympus.Saints go straight to Heaven.Et cetera.Very few stories actually end with the crisis averted and a return to absolute normalcy. Narnia even explicitly mocked the idea of lifelong kings and queens having to become British school-aged teens again.
I have a better ending in mind.
So, how long would we have to wait for someone to make an offline version of the game where all the Servants can be accessible?I avoided this game solely because of the gacha aspect and because it's a mobile game too.The only good thing about FGO is the Servants. Just why did it have to be gacha in the first place? The story ended so it's a sign it could happen soon-ish.
>>284819317At least they get Shielder by their side.
>>284819317It's a japboomer writing thing, they can't commit to or accept change.
>ShirouWent to the clock tower, went on to have many adventures. Eventually finds his way to Avalon. >ShikiMurder hobo adventures.>Hakuno King of the Moon gets to help out the world every now and then.>AokoStill up to Aoko shit. >RyougiRetires, becomes a mom but still gets up to some stuff every now and then.
>>284820046You have it backward. The reason for those boring endings is BECAUSE it's escapism, not in spite of it. So when a writer treats his work as nothing more than escapism, the only logical ending is to go back to the real world, because that's the only thing the viewers can do after finishing the story.But in a real story, where events happen to characters who aren't merely stand-ins for a viewer engaging in escapism, then the ending can be something that engages with the actual world and/or other characters surrounding the protagonists, because it's a story happening to characters in a fictional world, not events happening to the viewer's stand-in in a temporary escape.The reason Alice has to go back to the real world is because Alice was an actual little girl that Lewis Caroll was trying to entertain.
>>284819568If it keeps making money they'll probably keep releasing content for it, but the main plot is over
>>284820046>it's good because it's a classic!No.
Should I watch the Kara no Kyoukai movies or read the novels? I heard the 6th movie sucks for some reason, but that the others are pretty good.
>>284820046you know in alice in wonderland, it was just a dream and she wakes up at the end, right? there was, narratively, no adventure, no wonderland, and only the real world
>>284819402>How many times do the japanese have to rehash the same shit ending before they're satisfied?Until they can convince the masses that living as a salaryman is good, so never.
>>284820618And then there's Prismaverse. Unlikely to even get an ending at this rate.
>>284820046Alice went back to Wonderland you retard Only the East ever had this garbage trope of salaryman glorification, the West has always understood the appeal of venturing into a new world.
>>284819317Marche was right.
Speaking of FGO, was I meant to have played the game before watching the anime? I watched the anime after watching the other Fate anime series, but never the FGO games and I was confused to hell and back. It felt like so much information was missing for the viewer.
>>284819317It's a story where legendary heroes that you should be admiring are reduced to cheerleaders and cocksuckers, literally servants. It's always been pozzed to the core. The original "ultimate ending" was the main character never being able to have children.
>>284819317Don't forget it's 2019.Poor Guda has no idea of the anal reaming coming his way.
>>284819317I understand the core sentiment, that being mundane is not all that bad, especially in a clean, safe, technologically-advanced first world country like modern Japan. Raising viewers to want to be "normal" is a good message to teach society, even if not for the government controlling its population to generally raising one's kids. Is it boring? Sure, but it's a healthy message overall. Of course, in this scenario the MC also gets to be with a cute waifu who cares for him unconditionally, which is a luxury most Jap males don't have. They always leave that part out.
>>284819317>>284819402You know this is literally just the Hero's Journey but Japanese right? The hero can't be on an adventure forever. Eventually they need to return to the real world.
>>284819509All those doujins are canon now...
>>284821537Yes, FGO's anime adaptations are intended as extra content for people who play the game; this is why there is no anime for anything between the start and Camelot
>>284821741The hero never actually returns though. You've never read a single fantasy work, much less the stories that Campbell tried to compress.
>>284821783Where does Babylon fit into that chronology?
>>284820046The current generation has just forgotten how to dream. They can't do a captain Haddock or Lupin story these days because Japanese would be confused by any ending where Lupin doesn't give up crime in the end and become a normalfag salary man. They see larger than life characters as "why do these retards not settle down already? It's unrealistic".Every story has become evangelion
>tfw no white woman eggplant NTR-bait gf to go home to after wagecucking as a salaryman
>>284821537Yeah the anime objectively kinda fucking sucks without playing the game. By Babylonia guda should already feel like a seasoned master but the anime portrays him as still a weakling for some reason.The only time FGO anime feels a bit like the game is Solomon movie, mostly during the servant summoning fight. Camelot movie had a few fun moments but overall felt "too floaty". Doing the anime without doing the game is like watching FSN anime without doing the game, you'll experience "something" but you'll badly lack a real understanding of the story or the characters A couple of the manga are pretty good though
>>284821841Part 1 of FGO has a prologue (First Order anime) followed by 8 main chapters (singularities). Camelot is the 6th of those and Babylon is the 7th
>>284821812>The hero never actually returns thoughWhat did this retard mean by this? There are world-famous examples in this very thread.
>>284819317>living alongside demigods and great heroes, fighting demons and godsAll of that pales compared to being able to paypig for his next gacha.
>>284821537>was I meant to have played [slop] [so slop that in 2 years a corpo could pull the plug and it'll be lost media >>284820467]How about "no"
>>284820264Dorothy also goes back to Oz a bunch
Nips are dumb ass salaryman slaves fated to be miserable under a fake honorStinkbomb warned about this
"Kimi no Na wa..."
>>284819402>>284822105HACKsu
Is it over? Are we finally free from FGO?
>>284821492>the West has always understood the appeal of venturing into a new worldThey've always understood the appeal of returning back to the old world. Zoomers are just too brain-rotted by isekai escapism to remember.
>>284822035World famous examples such as the ones that got directly called out for not following that formula?
>>284822146Prepare for another two years of seasonal event milking.
>>284822146Are the Fate/Strange Fake servants even in FGO? If not, they're probably gonna keep for crossover probably.
>>284820618>Went to the clock tower, went on to have many adventures. Eventually finds his way to Avalon.In HF True he does none of this, he becomes a doll and lives his life as a house husband with Sakura.
>>284822059>a bunch Understatement. She literally moves to Oz and goes on yuri adventures with the Princess of Oz. >>284822148>zoomersAh yes, those antedeluvian zoomers in the 19th and 20th century. Get the fuck over yourself and read some real literature.
>>284819317>save the world multiple times>be rewarded with a 9 to 5 office jobThe Japanese job market must be really grim.
>>284822265It is.Friend moved there a year or two ago, I've had to put up with him hating and despising the work grind every time we talk since. He only doesn't move back because he's stubborn about admitting he was wrong, and because he seems to be able to clean up with women by virtue of being tall, blue eyed, and blonde-ish hair.
Nasu worshipped anno so much that he ended his largest and most expensive story he'll ever make with a 1:1 recreation of the Eva remake ending
>>284821741>becomes Master of Two WorldsYup, true narrative is when you can isekai back and forth.
>>284822168You can start a new adventure after returning. That's why every diagram of the hero's journey is a closed circle. If you really want to nitpick, some more examples include the Odyssey, The Epic of Gilgamesh (very topical), Beowulf, and most of the foundational works of Western literature. It's Eastern literature that leans towards wish fulfillment with stuff like Journey to the West and practically every cultivation story where the MC cultivates themself to godhood, ascending to a higher plane instead of sharing the gifts they gained on their journey with the ordinary world.
>Save the world 10000000000000 times(literally)>Stop world ending calamities every week>Kill every Beast>Get every divine spirit to acknowledge you>Have every Grand servant serving under you>A rogue magus replicates the soul of the planet which he uses to create his own root, which he uses to delete the entire universe aside from earth>You manage to beat the recreation of the root itself to save the entire universe>As a reward for your years of hard work, you are bestowed the rank of Pride, you are now the same rank of magus as ZoukenDamn, what do you have to do in order to reach the rank of Grand in this universe?
>>284821905>captain haddock
>>284821741The hero craves to go back but he never actually goes back, anon. The journey leaves him changed, and the passage of time changes his home.
>>284822517>you are bestowed the rank of Prideyou can enjoy the sense of pride and accomplishment from saving the universe instead.
>>284822517Per El-Melloi Case Files and Apocrypha, being a Grand is as much or more about taking part in (and winning) internal Clock Tower political shit fights than it is about actual talent.For example, Touko had a Sealing Designstion on her, but in exchange for having it lifted, she had to take a Grand rank and participate in the Association, putting her talents to work for them.
>>284822497>OdysseyRetard, already discussed and dismissed.>>284822243>most of the foundational works of Western literature You have never read a single piece of actual Western literature like Princess of Mars, Chronicles of Narnia, Eternal Champion, and so on.
>>284821741But they return with a marked difference and improvement in their lives after going through so much. Not just being a fucking salaryman.
>>284822517It's the third highest rank ajd despite all his accomplishments Guda has barely any skill as a mage.
>>284822148The Odyssey is a story about a man returning from work while getting shat on by birds and chased by dogs on the way. He never travelled to a new world and all the mythical beings he met remain in the world along with many more.
>>284822235Avalon is the canon ending, gotten after 100% Realta Nua, HF True is just a stepping stone towards unlocking Avalon.
>>284820046Doesn't Alice goes back to wonderland in trough the looking glass?
>>284822235And that's why it's not the main timeline.
>>284822243Haven't read all the books since I was kid, my bad.
>>284822614Lmao your fetish for the 19th and 20th century doesn't dismiss anything. The significance of the hero's journey is that it describes core human values that have persisted across literal millenia. Stories have always been a tool for understanding our place in the world. Not for escaping to a delusion detached from reality. The return has survived the test of time because it links stories back to the world we live in. >>284822673>all the mythical beings he met remain in the world along with many moreThey don't though. Those mythical beings disappear. In Fate, the Odyssey is basically one of the last milestones between the Age of Gods and the Age of Man. Even in our world you don't see any cyclopses or sirens. Odysseus leaves behind those myths and returns to his kingdom.
>>284822868Nasu said if Zelretch shows up in a timeline, that's the "true" timeline.>Q: Are the three routes of "Fate/stay night" parallel worlds existing at the same time? I was curious since I was how it would look to Zelretch.>A: They're parallel... sort of. But if Zelretch was observing, it'd become true, and my feelings on the matter is that I'd rather two routes disappear if one was true.>If all of these became possible at the same time, the other routes would become meaningless.Last Episode even by Nasu's admission is just "A nice dream"
>>284822554Sorry Captain Hardcock.
>>284821905If One Piece has a salaryman adjacent ending I'm going to laugh myself into a coma.
>>284819317>forget it all and be a Japanese salary manWhy every 2deep4me ending is like this?
>>284822011>had a few fun moments but overall felt "too floaty".Like the plot was floating from moment to moment?
>>284823010Because deepfag boomer writers hate their otaku NEET audience
>>284822929>Those mythical beings disappear. In Fate,>In Fate,Are you for real? We're talking about ancient stories and your refutation is what happens. IN FATE.??? A modern story by nasu?
>>284822929Your fetish for ancient shit that have zero bearing on Western literature doesn't address jack. Read some real books you retard, not eastshit by a jap boomer.
>>284820264Frodo dies there tho.
>>284823196Lucky bastard, have you seen Tolkien's descriptions of elvish sex life?
>>284823010Writers these days don't see stories as stories, they don't see happily ever after, they don't see "and the adventure continued", they don't see "And they continued forward building even greater than before"Writers today see stories as only escapism, and writers that see stories as only escapism see it as their duty to tell the readers "stop reading this crap and go outside, get out". It all started with Anno and every writer that idealizes Anno, Anno kinda hates Otaku and wants them to stop watching anime and live their lives, every writer that likes Anno ends up copying his ideals. Which results in "Escapism isn't healthy, you should work a menial job and shut the fuck up, you aren't a hero, being a salaryman is the real heroism buddy".It became sort of a self fulfilling thing that Anno's ideals gets aped by every japanese writer. When the story ends you're expected to shut the fuck up and get a bottom end job and stop "dreaming".
>>284821485If it ever does, you just know Kuro and Illya will return to her world. I just hope that they don’t part ways with Miyu.
>>284822943Hey pal, no need to dox me.
>>284823160I'm just adding some commentary since this is a FGO thread, but I guess it distracted you from the main point that Odysseus is leaving behind the mythical to permanently return to his ordinary life.
>>284823260But Anno is a richfag who has never once known genuine hardship and always got to be in the director's chair.
>>284823341He's like Karl MarxFreeloader all his life, but he has a lot of "ideas"
>>284823323But he's not. He, in fact, invokes the mythical as part of his defense in slaughtering every single suitor and they all had it coming. You're doing a great job of proving you have never actually read the Odyssey.
So what was the ending like?
>>284823376>disingenuous hair splitting that doesn't actually refute anything >proving you have never actually readLmao fuck off with this cringy fake gotcha moment
>>284823394Pretty meh.The final big bad is a copy of the root, basically using the fundamentals of projection but with the idea that you don't need to understand things. The root thing devlops its own personality using a warped methodology of its creator, who had a fucked up mentality already. It's basically girlfailture personified begging and begging us not to end it. The whole thing was written as a meta discussion of ending the game or not, but corporate shit is keeping the game going so the message is ultimately lost. Naus clearly wanted a Yoko Taro ending but decided not to.
>>284823260>being a salaryman is the real heroism buddyIt's funny to me that it's always a salaryman too. You'd think someone inclined towards heroism and who's willing to put himself in danger would be a good fit to become a firefighter for example, but I don't think I've ever seen that option in any story. Off to the office you go.
>>284823394>Kill the root>Timeline resets>Become a normalfagIts literally Eva Remake ending
>>284823376Every greek invokes the mythical at every possible opportunity. That's if they stop sacrificing oxen long enough to do anything
>>284819317I don't get it? So in the real world did Mash and Gudako recognize each other or is it one of those fate drew them together things where they feel something, but it's a coincidence?
>>284822942Zelretch shows up in Prisma Illya.Prisma Illya is therefore the true timeline.That would also be silly, which is why the actual answer is that Zelretch's observation effect does not happen when he shows up IN a timeline. Just entering a timeline doesn't do shit to observe it. You see it point blank in Strange Fake, he sits in his chair outside time with Kaleidoscope, and observes timelines that way in order to erase timelines where ORT wakes up early via not looking at them hard enough that they stop happening, and only looking at ones where ORT doesn't wake up.
>>284823593We don't know, but there's going to be more content in the game so we'll presumably get an answer unless all content going forwards is a what if viewed by an omniscient viewer like Zel or Olga.
>>284823477>but I don't think I've ever seen that option in any story. Off to the office you go.That's an allegory to the fact these writers never thought they had any option other than being yet another worthless office worker. I'd argue the "salaryman" archetype exists precisely to say that life is meaningless.
>>284819317some men were just born to be led
>>284821741>>284820046typically the protag learns something new about themselves and improves their situation somehow with that knowledge. japanese version is just them going back to being buck broken by some manager for shit pay
>>284821631>The original "ultimate ending" was the main character never being able to have children.What? What's the point of them never having children?
>>284823323It's circular reasoning and retarded to use Fate as your example when the comment was on how old stories differ/don't from fate and the comment was about the old story. And no, that's not how mythology works. I don't think so. You have many stories in mythology and Minos/Herakles/Ariadne don't disappear from one to the next. Your idea that Odysseus is the center-point of all Greek Mythology and the Cyclopses disappear when Odysseus lands the ship..you made it up from reading Fate because that's how it works *in Fate*.
>>284823260I want a remake of Get Backers with the real ending where everyone decides to live in the dream world.
>>284819317So that is it? FGO ends with a whimper after the MC fights planet destroying demons, gods, and aliens? Did he save the people he wanted at least? It seems a bunch of his not-servant pals are going to be ending up as deleted data.
>>284823838Story literally ends with him almost saving Olga but she's too heavy.>Olga Marie: Woah!? I’m awake!? I have hands!? What is this!? What are you doing, Fujimaru! You’re going to fall off the Storm Border! Hurry back, this is very bad for you no matter how you look at it! Space is collapsing! If you fall into this hole, you’ll instantly be, no, something terrible will happen to you!>Fujimaru Ritsuka: Thanks for your choice of words! It’s alright, I have a lifeline! But, uhh, how do I say this… You’re really heavy!>Olga Marie: Of course I am, who do you think I am right now! My Saint Graph is on par with CHALDEAS’ even though it’s collapsing! It’s a Beast Saint Graph, a Beast! Same as the President of Earth! I hate to say that though! Are you planning to lift the entire earth or what!?>Fujimaru Ritsuka: Yea, I’ll lift it…!>Olga Marie: Are you an idiot!? Didn’t your shoulder just dislocate!? Let go of me now! Being shown flesh tearing apart right in front of me is the worst way to wake up!>Fujimaru Ritsuka: Yea, but I’ll definitely lift you up…!>Olga Marie: Look up, up! Mashu is desperately pulling the rope! It’s getting loose, it’s coming off the latch! Just let me go already! Are you planning to fall with me!? Just forget about me! The Animuspheres were the root cause after all! Nothing good will come from saving me! It’s my own fault, don’t you get it!?>Fujimaru Ritsuka: —-I don’t wanna. I’ll never let go.>Olga Marie: Screw your “never”, don’t decide all by yourself! Can’t you even do simple math!? Let go and one person falls! Don’t let go and two people fall! You struggled so far to come this far, didn’t you!? Go back to everyone! I’m fine, I’ve long given up, I have nothing else I want to do! It’s better for me to perish here! Do I have to say this is just troublesome for you to understand!?>Fujimaru Ritsuka: Even then…even then…
>>284823896Then she goes over your top ten fuck ups throughout the story>Olga Marie: Hah. That’s right. It was always pointless to argue with you. Hmph. You’re giving me that “how do you know” look. Since this is a good chance, I’ll tell you. Well— I’ve been watching you all along as the “Alien Priestess”! I was grading whether you were worthy of being a Master! This is a good opportunity for me to make a special announcement for you! The Fujimaru Top 10 Fails!>Fujimaru Ritsuka: —?>—What was that?>Olga Marie: At number 10! We have the Heiankyo Imperial Holy Grail War. You didn’t realize the true identity of the steel monster, right? You should’ve been acquainted with Babbage in London. If you had noticed that it was Babbage, you could’ve had an easier time offing Douman. Is your perception on par with a Berserker’s? At number 9, we have the Russian Lostbelt. This is the serious part here. You gave up at Ivan the Terrible’s words and just stood there. That was horrible. Patxi was ran down even more than you were. He was relying on you more than you thought. When you looked like you were about to lose like that, he unconsciously ran and shielded you. It was brutal, but don’t forget that. Both your weakness and his decision. At 8th place…right, right, the Chinese Lostbelt. The Tiger Tank mass production incident! It’s not a direct fail, but because the Shadow Border was captured, an outrageous event was etched into Human History. Remember this every time a tiger tank appears from now on. “That’s my work”!>Fujimaru Ritsuka: —-Ummm.
>>284823426Who are you quoting retard?
>>284823920>Olga Marie: At number 7 was the Ooku Labyrinth. Imagine falling into an obvious trap. It turned out fine because Beast III was a pushover, but it was certainly a crisis that could’ve destroyed Chaldea. Number 6 was Mochizuki Chiyome in Atlantis! You were freaked out, weren’t you! At number 5…Well, it was your slip up in Mictlan. You literally told U that the “Alien God” was an enemy right in her face. I understand you were being considerate by staying silent, but that was a huge shock for me. Reflect on it.>Fujimaru Ritsuka: Umm---->You might be right but---->Olga Marie: At number 4, we have Traum! What was all that “great emperor” stuff about!? Aren’t you wearing that Mystic Code anymore! It suited you so well that I couldn’t even evaluate it, what a waste! Finally, at number 3, we’re at the Top 3. Do you remember your failure in the British Lostbelt? You saw a dozen Holy Grails in Dracae River where your “desires” runs along, and jumped in. I even almost screamed at you. “What are you doing, you disgrace to Chaldea”.>Fujimaru Ritsuka: You’ve been storing my fails…>And ranked them…?>Olga Marie: Hmph. Feel honored. You gave some good entertainment.>Fujimaru Ritsuka: Ah geez, what is this ranking, Director! Stop it, stop it, I don’t wanna hear anymore!>Olga Marie: Your journey was full of that. I was always watching you be nervous. But this is the number 1 failure. Saving me right now.
>>284823708The Odyssey isn't the centerpoint of Greek Mythology. It's just the example that was honed in on because I guess the Epic of Gilgamesh and Beowulf were harder to refute. Examining purely Odysseus in isolation, it's a story that follows the Hero's Journey. He goes from outwitting gods in the Trojan War to escaping from monsters on his journey to just being an ordinary king again. The tie-in of the Odyssey representing the fading of the Age of Gods is just a cute metaphor that parallels Odysseus leaving behind the mythical to return to his ordinary life in the actual epic. It's not an actual argument but meta-commentary by Nasu since Greek literature ends up generally moving away from the Gods being so directly involved in things after Homer. >>284823932Your gay dads
>>284821905>or Lupin story these days because Japanese would be confused by any ending where Lupin doesn't give up crime in the end and become a normalfag salary man.Is that the ending they expect for Lupin the Third? He just gives up being a thief and retires to a normal life? His grandfather would be ashamed.
>>284824116That's the point; modern Japanese writers can't comprehend anything except the Salaryman ending. They think the point of all fiction is giving up your "power" and becoming a cog in the machine already.
>>284819317Same ending as EVA, I like it :)
>>284823593They walked past each other like nothing happened. Just 2 strangers being friendly and kind to each other.
>>284823593Gudako was about to ask her out but just then her gyaruoh boyfriend suddenly appeared and put his arm around her to grope a titty while grinning at Gudako.source:It was revealed to me in an ntr doujin.
>>284824498kek
>>284824044>He goes from outwitting gods in the Trojan War to escaping from monsters on his journey to just being an ordinary king again.Being king isn't ordinary.
>>284824044The gods were often present in mortals' affairs in Odysseus' time. The fact that the story about him returning home ends when he returns home instead of being some slice of life showing him peeking at the nymphs bathing, doesn't mean that he or others weren't dealing with mythological beings both then and far after these events.
>>284819568>literal money printer cash cowNah.Nasu might leave for a bit though.
itt: /a/ falling for Nasu's fakeout.Real story releases on the 31st.
>>284824044You don't understand how the supposed hero's journey works because Odysseyus' starting point was on the battlefield, not home. Not to be surprised from a retard who doesn't understand the quote function because he was raped too much as a kid.
>>284819317I've never even downloaded FGO but I was under the impression it was going to be a 3-part story? Part 1 was the singularities, part 2 was lostbelts and then part 3 will be whatever.
>>284824736You thought wrong.
>>284819317Make a crossover image with My Hero Academia for the collage.
>>284824736Part 3 is Servantverse.See: Saber Wars, Saber Wars 2
>>284824736Yes >>284824620There's a lot of loose ends and your base unit whose progress is story locked (Mashu) isn't fully upgraded (again)
>>284824847>NY servant is final form MashuI'd laff
>>284824873Strange Fake collab
>>284819317Sooo are FGOkeks still begging for that LB6 anime? Seemed like it was mainly castoria waifufags, and castoria isn't really their wife anymore based on the ending.
>>284824915I was about to say that they wouldn't waste another NY slot on servants nobody gives a fuck about like last year's fagland but seeing how absolutely no good servants have released since forever I can kinda see it.
>>284824723What I don't understand is why you keep trying to insert yourself into the conversation like a child begging for attention. Gay dads was your cue to fuck off.
>>284819568>are they going to close down the printing money machinegee anon i dunno
>jap writers when the ending to their epic quest is "nothing mattered, you peaked in highschool, go to work" for the billionth time
>>284823920>If you had noticed that it was Babbage, you could’ve had an easier time offing DoumanThis one wasn't our fault though, Babbage was the one who decided he suddenly grew a pair and wanted to throw hands.>>284823943Wait, what was second place then
If this were a chinese gacha nasu would've gotten death and bomb threats right now
>>284819402Its just a cheap easy ending to pull that the author can call 'deep and meaningful' to avoid the fact they couldn't come up with anything interesting.
Why do nips love salaryman ending
>>284822105Where is Mashu going with that luggage?
>>284825187they love corporate culture
>>284825024Look at you, completely buckbroken after a simple no u. I'm the one who started the conversation, retard kun. You're the pseud who butted in with a total ignorance of the West and got completely blown the fuck out. Hilarious, by the way, beautiful how much you got owned by everyone in the thread.
>>284819317Do FGOfags have enough self awareness to admit this is the ending they deserve for sacrificing the IP on the altar of gacha?
>>284825187he isu justo rike me for rearu for rearu
>>284820787Underrated post. Though in the case of Evangelion, it's more than Anno is married and happy now, so his view of modern Japan is a lot more positive than it was in the mid-90s.
>>284820618>>Shirou>Went to the clock tower, went on to have many adventures. Eventually finds his way to AvalonBased and canon
>>284825232Lol I'm sorry you couldn't take a hint when I only gave serious replies to the other posters. There's discussion-worthy disagreement and then there's rage baiters fishing for (You)s with provocative, dishonest "arguments". I'll stop enabling you with any more of my attention.
>>284825187Slavery mentality instilled into their DNA. Remember that unlike the chinks who have mere nostalgia for emperors, the japs actively worship their emperor as a god. You think whinnie the pooh memes were bad? Try cracking jokes about Hisahito meeting an American marine and watch the explosion.
>>284825327I'm sorry you're incapable of answering my posts and have a melty when your disingenuous conduct is called out. Funny how you kept dodging my points because you couldn't handle them.
>>284820046I mean, in reality you can't return to a simpler past. And if you're meant to see this kind of ending as metaphorical, it's also a pretty weak conclusion where the journey is adding nothing to you as a person.I actually really liked Higurashi Mei baiting an ending like this and rejecting it.>World turns out to be distorted by twisted "tragedy fragments" inserted into it.>Fragments are removed, world would be reboot to its "true" form, where no tragedy happened to the cast after Rika's loops in 1983, all memories of the story erased.>The entire main cast rejects that and absorb the tragedy fragments upon themselves so they didn't just forget everything they've learned during the stories' events. Everything they went through makes them who they are now and they don't want to lose it.
What I wanna know is, what happens to Kadoc?
>Naruto sets aside magic ninja bullshit and buys the ramen shop. He's been chasing Sasuke for decades because he'd make a great project and marketing manager.>Char Aznable's last words to Amuro from the surface of Axis: "Lalah deserved to work in the mailroom! She could have been an intern to me!">Homura jumps again and again across time and space to watch her friends suffer until she can find the timeline where Kyubey makes the girls slightly proficient in C++.>Rurouni Kenshin – the tale of a lone samurai duelling with his bloody past as well as his desire to master the abacus.>literally adult Son GohanHoly shit, this thread.
>>284824116I think that anon is going more for "Lupin III couldn't be created today". But, no, none of the recent series or movies have even hinted at Lupin retiring.
>>284825395>Lalah deserved to work in the mailroom! She could have been an intern to me!
>>284825337slave mentality is bred into most normies regardless of race, that's just how it is (whites kneeling before israelis like golems, middle eastern and african cultures revolving around sucking up to tribe elders with no sense of foresight or future planning, asians altogether bowing before any form of authority etc). the truth you're going for is simply that the japanese are no different from others and are just as susceptible, that's all
>>284819317All I need of Fate is more Astolfo being gay. Everything else can go into the trash for all I care.
>>284819317The best ending, in my opinion, is when the characters go on another adventure with the person they love.
>>284819317She has no money and needs (You) to help her!
>>284825421How do I get the route where I'm allowed to go my own way without being a slave or a master?
>>284819317I'm actually in a fuckking rage right now. Years spent playing this game for this. I'm going to fucking break something,
Good riddance, I thought it would never end.
>>284824938LB6 is probably their best material, so if they are going to animate anything else from FGO it might as well be LB6 . Personally I've seen more support from fans of the fae round table than Castoria, but that might just be me.
>>284825474Unfortunately Astolfo is straight.
>>284819317>AIEEEEE SALARYMAN ENDINGBrainlet take.
>10 years for this shitOH NYO NYO NO NYO NYO
>>284825530Homeless schizo or become a planeswalker. It's like 95% the same skill set.
>>284825570Why do so many animations nowadays look like they are 90% interpolation? It legit looks bizarre.
>>284825620Because they're 90% still frames and interpolation.
>>284825620ai *assisted*
>>284819317>forget it all and be a Japanese salary manSince it's Gudako, she should be my Japanese submissive rape-slut sex slave girl.
>>284820046>>284821741/a/ is full of people who hate their own lives. That's why every time a hero goes back to living a normal life they get called a cuck. For these MCs who fought to save the world, not needing to risk their life and be special anymore is the best reward they could ask for.
>>284825187never trust japanese twitter
It's specifically a thing with Anno's generation. The generation before his still does what ever the fuck they want.
>>284825620>Why do so many animations nowadays look like they are 90% interpolation?What do you mean by "interpolation"?
>>284825636she was never canon.
>>284825540I'll take your word for it. I have noticed less Castoria posting in recent years and even heard later events actually demoted her on the "for (you)" chart, but I don't know specifics to confirm or deny.
why are zoomies so obsessed with getting huge rewards for their efforts? back in my day heroes were content to just go back to their daily lives and that's what made them real
>>284825592>or become a planeswalkerHow do you become that?
>>284819317.>Nasu>Pillrs of japanese writing Fucking terasu mc writes better ending at this point
>>284825679Taking two images and using math to generate an approximation of the frame in-between them instead of drawing it by hand.
>>284825639There was no reward, this is a "it was all a dream" storywipe timetravel memory reset ending
>>284825639Nobody wants a story that says>OK, you had a fun fantasy adventure using magic and fighting demons.>Now it's time to grow up and face the real world.That's literal cancer. Take your work of fiction seriously, or don't bother with it at all.
How many death threats tomorrow?
>>284825712>>284825735So hasn't Nasu always been shit at endings? What makes this one so much worse?
>>284825745the endings don't completely retcon the events that took place in the story or have them never have happened to begin with
>>284825712
>>284825362Eh, that's still a weak ending. If you want actual consequences then you can't have that bittersweet ending of escaping to a nice clean timeline where you keep all your memories of suffering. Now you have to deal with a personality that very much does not fit this timeline and how that makes things better or worse
>>284825774basednow if only he could draw dicks
>>284825568>Year of our lord 2025>Still trying to defend Rebuild
>>284825745Gacha paypigs spent 10 years of their time and money on this shit unlike standalone doujin game
>>284825705Still trying to figure it out, myself...but hey! If I get to a new world of magic and dragons and adventure, we can always set aside our cheat skills and go work at fucking Walmart!
>>284825639>>284825702The problem is that the "world" anime heroes get to go back into is usually an idealized near-utopia that they will be able the thrive in and find happiness and love, meanwhile the actual world we live in is still shit even if you are a productive member of society unless you managed to marry your dream girl, which in my experience most guys haven't.Maybe if things were still like they were before where you could afford a home in a nice neighborhood with your stay at home wife and kids, a dog, 2 cars, and a boat on a single middle class income then these endings wouldn't feel so hollow.
>>284825568>Shinji wearing a collar like a faggot cuckboy
And then... frodo woke up in the shire all those years ago and nothing ever happened, the end.
>>284825807that is basically how it would bebut he'd run into a normal gandalf or something and they'd stare at each other awkwardly
How should have FGO ended? I would have been fine with Guda sacrificing himself in the finale.
>>284825807KINO KINO KINO I KNEEL TOLKEIN
>fgo diesHoly shit this is actually huge. Is cygames really the only big names left for the japanese gacha industry?
>>284825745See>>284820618Never been this bad.
They actually did the meme
>>284825824Yepchinks and gooks have taken over the industry wholesale
FGO's not gonna end since it's Type Moon's cash cowThey will resume story soon enough through whatever bullshit
>>284819317Every gacha player's dream is being cucked.they imagine the self-insert (female) jerking off in the corner while their waifu is making out with another waifuThey don't want to be the hero, they want to be a background character that doesn't matter, like they can be killed and it wouldn't matter, hell probably the world will become better if they hanged themselves
>>284825815>You save the world>Save Olga>"And so chaldea department of human salvation protected the future for humans, for many generations going forward">No reset>Cut to ten years in the future>Story is suddenly shown from the perspective of a new recruit>Olga in directors seat, still clearly has horns but no one asks about it anymore>Olga complains what a pain it is dealing with other magus assosiations who come knocking occasionally>Mashu by her side as her secretary>Gordolf as the acting chief who has his own office>You don't see guda around>You go around and see all the various old characters>in the end you go to the Nurse's office, and you run into guda eating cake, dressed in a doctor's coat just like Roman, mimicking how you first met Roman sneaking food in his office>The story continues again, from a new generation in the end
>>284825824Japan didn't improve shit in 10 fucking years. This was the natural outcome.
>>284825815>How should have FGO ended?the mc wakes up at his desk in high school history class and it was all just a dream
>>284825691That's her in the video
The hero of the story
>>284819317Who even gives a shit? FGO was horrendous on literally every level, both story and gameplay. Genuinely one of the worst things I have ever experienced. I read the first 8 parts and just gave up. I stuck it out that long because people kept telling me it gets good at Camelot and Babylon but they were both horrendous.
>>284825862Nasu has said he's done with it and he gives fuck all about making more money, Aniplex are mainly the ones directing it now. Obviously they aren't going to let it die, but I don't see how they can just resume it after Nasu's ending unless they introduce a new self insert.
>>284825930>Whostopped reading
>>284825620Because the people who knew how to do it better are all gone now.
>>284825922Sorry, not canon.
>>284825944This. Fuck owls, man
So it's them going to a regular ass world without magecraft and shit, or just a regular Nasu world with all the clock tower and whatnot?
>>284825930>dropping before lb6
>>284825815become a heroic spirit yourself and have cool Fate adventures for the rest of eternityor>>284825899
>>284825862>Tower fucks around and causes a problem>Someone with knowledge of the prior timeline for mysterious reasons finds MC>downloads old memories and servants into MC so he can face the upcoming threat90% sure it would be something like this.
>>284825952Source?
>>284825959You're just a normal dude.
>>284825959normal Nasu world except Mashu is alive instead of dead in a basement because Nasu forgot her backstory
What would have been the most based ending for FGO in your opinion?
>>284825959>FGO world glitches out>Universe reset>New timeline is closer to Case Files timeline.>Everything is the same except Marisberry died before he could accomplish any of his plan. He still did certain things like give birth to Olga, but supposedly he died in the grail war in 2005.Read Case Files, Olga appears in itYou'll understand a lot about what happened to her in the new world.
>>284825995>>284825815>>284825899
>>284825995just put all the lostbelts on the bleached earth.
>>284825988Every anime adaptation, except for memetrash.
>>284825549>Astolfo is straight>source: my assHe's canonically bisexual as explicitly stated throughout official media.He was extremely gay with Sieg in Apocrypha.And in the games I always play as the male protagonist so he's gay with me.
>>284825995Do not accept the erasure ending and instead use this as an opportunity to create a new history where you are the eternal ruler of the world
>>284825735Japs love these type of endings though aren't they?
>>284826026Pansexual* by the apocrypha extra material book
>>284826036What does that even mean? Want to fuck bread?
>>284819527Hypocritical as they build their entire business off this. Hell if people had that mindset Nasu would've never gotten popular and would be a wagie themselves
>>284825800It's been established from LB1 that the normal world is worth fighting for. Real life isn't as good as the idealized real life in fiction? Well real life is far worse than the fantasy reward people wanted, which is flat out impossible to obtain in real life rather than merely difficult.Keep in mind Fujimaru is explicitly meant to be an average Japanese, not a basement dweller who hates his life.
I reject this shitty garbage ending, nasu a a hack always and forever. I declare ankoman fgo as canon
>>284826042No he doesn't care about sex or gender identity or anything else at all, just wether he likes the person or not
>>284826064So bisexual as there's only 2 genders, alright.
>>284825931Nasu said he was done with Fate after Extra, he'll come back
Who was final boss?
>>284826080Technically I guess? The distinction is important because he wouldn't by default be opposed to trannies or anything for example, is allIt's important to be accurate
>>284826091(You)
>>284825993>normal Nasu worldWhat constitutes normal?
>>284826080He said he was done with FGO, not Fate in general.
>>284826091literally a flying ball that is the copy of the root because powercreep
You can save the world and then go do something interesting in peace time. Or work towards making it better in a different way.
Nasu cited Danganronpa V3 and Undertale as his inspirations for the ending in like 2018, what were you expecting?
>>284826132No you can't, you got your memory wiped and nothing ever happened
What was Servantverse anyway? That shit wasnt part of the Lostbelt was it? If so we still have a cosmic goddess and some on MC´s ass.
>>284819317Out of all the wish trash wish fulfillment isekai stories out there, Overlord is the one I hope the most that it gets this treatment when it ends (if it ever does), just because Ainz is an asshole and deserves to go back to his shitty world and become a salaryman more than anyone else.
>>284826167This, he should've been impregnated Albedo and Shalltear but noooooo
FGO is the reason why this franchise genuinely became stagnate. It's also the reason why Nasu became lazy, but who could blame him? The dude is more than set for life from that game. So glad that the story is finally done and over with. The only thing that was interesting in this game were the Servants. Will Nasu actually write something that's interesting again?I actually just want to enjoy the Servants and nothing else.
>>284826132>You can save the world and then go do something interesting in peace time.Acclimating to peace time is actual major obstacle that is often times more stressful than the actual conflict itself.
>>284826194>Will Nasu actually write something that's interesting again?Haha
>>284826194>Will Nasu actually write something that's interesting again?he turned the root into a screaming tsundere lmaohis entire universe is trash and not worth exploring now
>>284826194Nasu hasn't been able to write anything compelling since HA. He's completely and thoroughly washed.
>>284826194I liked Tsukihime Remake but it's been years and still no sign of part 2.
>>284819317I'm so angry. 10 years of cope and hope and teased possibilities just to fail to save her AGAIN in the end. For her to fucking die AGAIN. I'm so FUCKING angry. I don't care about the reset, I care about this.
>>284824736We will get a part 3 in some way or another simply because there are too many open plot points still open, plus stuff like Space ishtar bond CE that is essentially get coming from servantverse to kidnap guda for adventures, even more as they imply during their part in the final battle that all parts of space ishtas still want that.
I still remember when /a/ used to call unsung hero endings kino (resurrection doesn't exist)
>three years of Ordeal Calls to get past the PLOT WALL turned out to be actual filler that didn't even make it into the credits or ended up relevant to the story at all (besides the Mashu upgrade that could've been done without any of this)>the Fuyuki final chapter accomplished literally nothing besides rehashing Kirei>the big reveals about the plot do nothing but cross out checkboxes to handwave all the open questions that have been around for a decade, turning Marisbury into a dumb autist that due to [generic mage autism] pulled off like ten final villains worth of world-ending schemes (figuring out the soul of the earth, creating chaldeas, creating a parallel timeline that fucks over PHH just to win a Grail War for MONEY, set up all the shit needed for chaldea including a perfect servant summoning system, all the Mashu/Olga experiments, creating the crypters each equipped with world-ending suicide bombs, creating 7 fake singularities to cover up that 7 of the crypters are just there to kill themselves) without ANYONE noticing, not even the supposed geniuses working right with him>the final battle is nothing but an exact rehash of the part 1 finale where you defeat a bunch of huge phallic objects using the help of EVERYONE, please clap>meanwhile the big villain is an AI which doesn't really do anything but act smug and then later cry at you for not giving up despite it itself being some over the top copy of the fucking rootPeople complain about the reset ending but it's nothing compared to the shit that led up to it
>>284826315anon, this isn't unsung herothis is you were never a hero and it never happened
>>284826072Its more like "bisexual but care more about the personality than how the person looks"
>>284825995Chaldea become sometime like the Counter force, not the same but similar enough.
>>284826315Who cares about randoes? In that case the ones who matter knew of his sacrifice not straight up deleted from memory
>>284823477Now that you mention it is pretty funny. You'd think they would use the idea of "stop reading manga and watching anime and so on, live your life" to enjoy you to pursue your dreams in a constructive way or get a job that helps people.But nope, it's always a 9-5 where you're stuck in a cubicle or hunched over a desk
>>284821741The hero never returns. Like they say in The Lord of the Rings, even when he's back home, nothing is the same to him because what he lived makes him see things different. In folk tales the hero returns and becomes a rich guy, a king or whatever useful for his people, it says so in your png. Otherwise he never returns, disappears and his name is passed in legend, joining the gods.To be honest, becoming a salary man after all that shit is an insult to life. It's literally saying "Nothing you cared about matters, be a slave like everyone else".
>>284826036>>284826026>>284826072goddammiti know it's degenerate but femboys do something to me like that catboy slut from taimanin>>284826327lol, noBisexuality is just sexual deviance. Pansexuality is sexual deviance with delusions added on.
Wait so Nasu Sonic 06’d FGO? That’s actually hilarious if true.
>>284826319>three years of Ordeal Calls to get past the PLOT WALL turned out to be actual filler that didn't even make it into the credits or ended up relevant to the story at all (besides the Mashu upgrade that could've been done without any of this)This shit plus the foreigner OC never really being done leading to foreigners being hard locked from taking part in the final battles is so fucking weird, i would call it filler/dropped plot point but the lovecraftian servants not being allowed to fight makes me thing we still gonna get something from that.
>>284823477>>284826357Is there really anything implying that the protagonist ends up as a salaryman? I thought it was all just people memeing on the reset ending.
>>284826315the difference of course being that Lelouche was fun and interesting to watch struggle and grow as a character, not a boring self insert
>>284826327So same thing because sexuality doesn't only imply physical attraction but also emotional, intellectual, etc etc.
>>284826372>i know it's degenerate but femboys do something to mewhy do you care if its degenerate? if it feels good and isnt hurting anyone, who the fuck cares
>Ohhh dear player, you have to become a salary man and accept reality>me? Oh, I made millions from getting underage kids addicted to gambling and use my fortune to have my friends make video games that never actually release.
>>284826388Because I want to be a family man one day, and it hurts my moral fiber.
>>284826381its unclear really, the cutscene is mostly a "boy meets girl" thing, but it feels incomplete.
>>284826381For the FGO ending? No, Guda/Gudako was just an ordinary teenager going through town. I was speaking in a general sense
>>284826381>Is there really anything implying that the protagonist ends up as a salaryman?Vinci lists like 5 things the protag could become after the timeline resets and one of them is salary man
>>284826398lots of people with degenerate fetishes have kids, one thing wont lock you frm the other, you just need to know how to separate reality from fiction for the more taboo ones.
>>284826396>those same kids are now grown and being told to get a fucking jobno refunds by the way, piggies
>>284826315No dumbo, this is if lelouch woke up in his classroom and went "huh what a weird dream..." at the end
>>284819317Anything with Gudakek being humiliated is nice, but realistically they're gonna keep milking FGO either way, there's no winning at this point. And I don't see Nasu making VN kino again besides maybe Red Garden in 10 years.FGO has ruined TM to a point where even if they did everything right from tomorrow onward idk if they could recover.
>>284826396>and use my fortune to have my friends make video games that never actually releaseI remember back when Dark Souls 3 came out and I thought that a Fate themed Dark Souls clone would have been great, leveling stats and skills to create your own hero. What happened Nasu?
>>284826424well duh, anoni just know if i consume far more risque pornography i'll slip down the route of many a coomer
>>284826459>What happened Nasu?focused on remaking a psp game for 6 years because he is mad people didn't like it enough the first time
>>284826468meh, you just lack willpower.
Fgog fags aren’t taking this well are they?
>>284826415What were the other 4 Vinci?
>>284826476>i want to fap to femboys>you don't want to fap to femboys>i am the one with more willpower
>>284826315Retard
