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What's your opinion on a possible new season for Black Lagoon? Also Hiroe, you bum, make Revy and Rock fuck already!
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Delinquent girls deserve to be happy.
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>>285091326
It the anime was coming back this year it would have already been greenlit a couple of years ago. The author is baiting.
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This is the actual tweet, he's saying "Buy the fucking merch so there's incentive to fund another season".
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>>285091326
>Also Hiroe, you bum, make Revy and Rock fuck already!
Rock's already taken by the new chinese girl, sorry
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>tarantino larper wants more money
He can go fuck himself.
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>>285091691
Ah, okay.
The answer is no. Blacked Lagoon is done. There's nothing else to do with it. I remember wanting a sequel to FLCL and look at what we ended up getting. Fuck that.
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>>285091326
>>285091691

Hiroe tanked the series consisted popularity stream with his depression hiatus issues. He doesn't get to tell anyone to buy shit to gauge popularity now, hoping to attract investors for a new season.
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>>285091982
Kill yourself schizo.
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>>285091691
Eh, no thanks, champ.

How about not taking so many hiatuses to the point the series fell off completely out of the public eye? Not everyone has die-hard cultists like Togashi does, where hiatuses don't make a dent in their fame.
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>>285091691
>I saw some overseas fans jumping the gun and saying things like 'There might be a Black Lagoon anime,' but my response is the same as always:
>If there are strong sales across the board, the people who provide the funding for anime production will feel motivated to put up the money. So, please keep buying the merchandise and the manga.
>That’s the situation. Thank you for your support.
So, he thinks an anime season is possible, but thinks everything depends on the fans buying the merch. Does he realize that the average isekai, regardless of its quality, has ton of volumes than keeps the average fan engaged right? And that building interest starts with the author himself not sabotaging his own work? There's just so much volumes you can buy when there's a very limited number of them.
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>>285091691
lol
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next arc is my favorite part of the manga, im part of the minorite but i found the arcs post Roberta better than the anime arcs
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>>285092483
Fucking bitch trying to steal the man from our girl.
Slut.
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>>285092544
blame hiroe for not making them fuck yet
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he should draw some more porn instead
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>>285091326
>Go to check out black Lagoon
>See that it's about fighting Nazis.
Absolutely dropped, I thought Japs were better than this.
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>>285092669
I'm getting tired of her letting everyone steal her stealth boyfriend. This would not be acceptable in any other manga!
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>>285092901
>fighting nazis
those idiots were larper nazis, hiroe was making fun of the right wing followers
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>>285092483
the chinese lady
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>>285091326
>>285092669
>>285093001
Jesus, do you read this manga ? It's not because there are not show fucking that nothing is happening.
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>>285092901
>>285093186
go back to /pol/ retard
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>>285093299
>nooooo you cant discuss politics in my political manga
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can we at least get translations for the eda spinoff?
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>>285091326
I'll gladly sacrifice Hiroe and black lagoon for a prequel of jormungand with loli koko
Or better yet, get Hiroe and Takahashi together already and make a fusion of black lagoon and Jormungand, call it something stupid like Jormungand Black, if nothing else it will be fun
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>>285092732
Didn't he and the guy from Hellsing literally started making porn before making serious manga?
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>>285094516
yeah, especially with hirano it's kind of funny because he just reused his porn characters for the hellsing series
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>>285093469
>That gap between her legs
>That curvature
Goddamm...
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>>285093631
>Eda having bigger boobs than revy
This post was brought to you by Glowie: shinning in the dark.
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Black Lagoon will be the next Berserk.
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>>285093345
>saar my chinese comic book is political saar because its based in thailand and has crime saar
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>>285093631
Reminds me how that brown chick and their tech guy have just been fucking and fucking. Good for them.
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>>285096002
Thanks for your concesion
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>>285093631
>All skin colors and ages represented
Based?
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it wouldn't happen because of depression question manga anime edition
too bad because i want more shen
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>>285097154
>depression question manga
?
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>>285097190
meant to say depression quest
fucking autocorrect!! sike that was my own autopilot typing
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>>285097266
who has depression, hiroe?
i wonder how he doesn't mind continuing his other projects tho...
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>>285091691
how about finish the fucking manga?
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>>285095942
while i love BL, it will never be in the same league as Berserk.
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>>285097625
it would if it wasn't so fucking short.
Berserk is like 3 or 5 times longer
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Fuck off back to facebook and kys OP
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>285098688
seethe
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>>285091326
Hiroe drew the best femdom doujin of all time, you know.
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>>285091326
My opinion is I'm on episode 21 and you better keep this thread alive until I'm done.
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>>285091691
>>285091326
How would Black Lagoon work in current year? Stuff about Chinese Intrigue and US decline?
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>>285098972
name of this one? the girl reminds me of le majeur, without the tattoos and the eye patch
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>>285091341
I just want them to have a hardcore sex scene with leg locking, choking, and simultaneous cumming, is that really too much?
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>>285091691
What a fucking loser. People like this are why I spitefully use AI and support it. if you don't have the dignity to provide for your fanbase, don't bother being a creator and then cry wolf when people stop caring about your shit.
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>>285091326
>if the author stops making Revy a psycho bully ass bitchy hypocrite, I'll watch the new shit

Also stop making Rock a gary stu
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>>285099451
You still have to watch roberta's OVAs though
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Let’s GOOOOOOOOOn
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>>285091691
*sigh*
so where is the manga physical editions sold anyway? amazon? buying there will count to make the second season a reality?
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>>285091691
That’s not what he said
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>>285091326
JUST DO IT
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Le Majeur is Black Lagoon's poochie.
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>>285091326
I'd want a grand finale: that corrupt city gets firebombed and the Black Lagoon squad gets executed.
Order should conquer chaos.
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>>285101778
Shenhua, Lotton, and Sawyer should escape so they can go on wacky globe-trotting adventures together.
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>>285101778
bootlicker
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>>285100879
The twins should have lived
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Total Vysotniki victory
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Hiroe's twatter is pretty fucking awful. Like not western culture warrior awful but he's got some brainrot.
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>>285091954
it's working well enough for Fujimoto
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>>285103923
I probably going to regret asking, but what kind of brainrot is there? Hopefully he's just a gacha addict
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>>285104033
I don't want to go into it I just mean take what the OP is saying with a grain of 'this dude's kind of retarded on twitter' salt.
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>Dialogue is great
>Feng is great and her chemistry with Rock is fantastic
>the execution of the arc is good
>the comedy is good
>the climax is amazing
>Revy in dominatrix suit

This arc should have been the best in the series if you remove the aspect of the release schedule which was horrible and the NTR bait, also Hiroe stopped writing depressing things and wrote a hopeful and more cheerful arc as therapy for himself. I hate roberta saga just for that stupid and retarded ending
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>>285101778
Isn't that like 98% what's probably going to happen? Eventually something is gonna set Balalaika off too hard and it'll bee too much of a mess to leave be, Right now my only question is if Eda ever actually genuinely cared about anyone there and perhaps warns Revy and/or Rock before the order happens, right now I think it could go either way
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>>285101778
CIA wont allow it, ranapour its just a scapegoat for USA to keep on check the criminals in one place.
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>>285104186
The only NTR bait in that arc is on Revy's side tho? Also what's wrong with Roberta's ending
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>>285101778
What a stupid and unsatisfying ending that'd be, good thing you're not writing this
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>>285104261
suddenly suddenly an army officer lets his entire platoon die without reprisals, Hiroe was too depresed to write something compelling
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>>285104050
Ok I read it out of curiosity and is honestly kind of harmless. At least I'm glad he has enough energy to shitpost and hasn't slide completely into apathy. Apathy is worse than anything else.
On the other hand, I'm disappointed he spends so much time in that shithole when he could use it to develop his own ideas and complete his magnus opus. As an artist I will use this as fuel to give me a punch in the face anytime I put any sort of brainrot above my art, instead direct my energy to make it better for those who enjoy it. I still hope he regains his wits and internal fire and gives BL a satisfying ending.
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>>285104313
Army officers make peace with the enemy all the time while hundreds and thousands of their soldiers die like dogs.
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>>285104378
That's a poor excuse, considering Carson's attitude throughout the arc with his platoon. He underwent a complete personality shift and let Roberta massacre his men for no reason. He took pity on a child he'd only known for a few hours and allowed himself to be metaphorically killed, while also letting his men, whom he'd known for years, die. So make no sense.

The only logical explanation is that Hiroe was so affected and intoxicated by the nihilism of the arc that he simply couldn't write anything compelling
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>>285104440
>That's a poor excuse
Is not an excuse, is literally what happen in all wars. Do you think they set themselves to kill or avenge every single dead soldier? He doesn't necessarily "let" Roberta kill them all, she just did, and at the end of the day they're soldiers. Dying in battle is not murder, they're performing their duty. Previous to that he admitted to a lot of them just straight up murdering people and political opponents, which are innocent people. So is a straight and fair battle. The arc is amazing and is lauded as the high point of the series for a reason. Nobody wants to read doomer garbo.
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>>285091326
Did that anon who've claimed he knows an IRL Revy, and was in underground construction business, ever post again?
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>>285104186
>romantic /ss/ ending
>stupid and retarded
Absolutely plebeian.
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Didn't one of the recent chapters imply that Blood Trail's ending has been retconned to be the OVA's now?
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>>285104784
Roberta is wheelchair-bound but I think she still has all her limbs.
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>>285104523
>He doesn't necessarily "let" Roberta kill them all
nop, yes he did. he let his men die; his entire platoon was being massacred, and he let them die.
>Dying in battle is not murder, they're performing their duty

Their duty is to be cannon fodder left to die because their general surrendered and preferred to follow the plan of a child he met a few hours ago rather than help his personal platoon.

>Previous to that he admitted to a lot of them just straight up murdering people and political opponents, which are innocent people.

"I'll protect the innocent ant try to fight a war that doesnt dishonor my country"
"You've always avoided sacrificing anything besides your objectives and direct enemies, even when you and your men were up against long odds"

Carson prefers to be on the right side of his moral compass, but there is nothing moral about letting your men die when they haven't committed a war crime except killing obviously people, they're no worse than Roberta, and yet I still leave them to their fate.

>the arc is amazing
nah, its decent at best with awfull pacing, 3 horrible characters with a lot of spotlight and shit conclusion, The only redeeming feature is rock development
>high point
The sales of the arc were very poor and it was another reason why Hiroe fell into depression, its not a good arc
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>>285104819
When the fuck Garcia and Roberta finally breed like rabbits. Hiroe is such a pussy and a loser to not finish the whole manga.
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>>285104922
They die because Roberta kills them. I don't know if I'm forgetting and the official had an ACME button to stop the killings but I doubt it. The rest if your opinion so suit yourself with your schizo nonsense.
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>>285104819
wasn't she wheelchair bound from the beginning of the manga? the only added shit by the OVA was the missing limbs
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>>285105181
His platoon had multiple opportunities to shoot her in the jungle and waited for orders from Carson. Carson simply didn't tell them how to proceed, and therefore they died. There's also the aspect that he killed his best friend and joined with the child simply because he felt the urge.

>The rest if your opinion so suit yourself with your schizo nonsense.
thanks for proving absolute nothing that contradicts my complains, again, awfull writting
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>>285105233
As far as I remember they do, in fact, shoot her and that's why she is badly wounded by the end. But like I said, suit self with your schizo shit and headcanon.
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>>285091326
>S1 bretty gud
>S2 ehhh ok
>Roberta's bloodtrail
>This kills the crab.
Really, I watched S2 and felt kinda disappointed, then watched Roberta's OMFG after that atrocity, I have no interest left in that series.
>also
For what I remember, and correct me if Im wrong, but revy was a bitch. balalaika was more interesting
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>>285105288
The manga version she fought them and she escaped unharmed because they didn't even have time to shoot because Roberta was faster and they were waiting for Carson instructions. Roberta's bullets and wounds were caused by only one man in the entire platoon because he was the only one who no longer waited for Carson's orders. Roberta in the manga ended up practically without serious injuries
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>>285105346
>For what I remember, and correct me if Im wrong, but revy was a bitch. balalaika was more interesting
If by more interesting you mean fucking certifiable, sure
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>>285100670
>30 minutes per episode
>want to sleep
fug
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>>285105708
is worth it trust me
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They did Revy dirty in the OVAs, decided to make things grittier for some reason.
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>>285093631
Who is that landwhale Q? I dont remember her fron the anime...
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>>285091982
the FLCL sequels are better thoughever
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>>285106327
>the FLCL sequels are better thoughever
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>>285091326
honesty this wasn't that good and the OVA made me regret wasting my time on the series
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>>285091326
I mean, not really a rush. This whole "assassins wanna kill Dutch" arc isn't that thrilling.

Roberta's Blood Trail is probably gonna be the peak of the whole series.
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>>285105020
He's got another girl available too.
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>>285091326
Oh boy, more feminist, girlboss dogshit with a beta male protagonist.
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>>285106892
You didn't read the manga or watch the show.
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>>285106464
>honesty this wasn't that good and the OVA made me regret wasting my time on the series
Unfortunately I second this. I can't remember at which OVA episode I dropped BL, but I distinctly remember the feeling of it being just too far removed from reality. I can accept battle-maids in silly settings like Overlord, but I didn't like it here.
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>>285105385
He actually retconned her into a wheelchair now in the cartel arc.
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>>285107980
Pathetic. This is as bad as punished John Wick escapades. Should've kept her a proper dangerous woman beast.
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>>285093001
Revy was wetting herself over this guy for cutting bullets, think of how she warmed up to rock just from him pushing her gun out of his face and chewing her out. Plus you just know she fucked other guys. No way living where she did it was only the rape and lesbian shit that happened.
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>>285108265
>Posting a guy that got killed
Kill yourself.
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>>285108958
What I responded to included a girl that got killed so what are you on about?
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>>285091326
>Otaku Culture
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>>285109182
I guess only otaku and hardcore fans know black lagoon at this point. Is one of these shows that only a select few still remember instead of chasing trends.
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>>285091326
At this rate of 2 chapters per year, Rei is going to fucking Miura himself before the cartel arc concludes.
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>>285109961
He's a talented artist.
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Wife
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Post anime arcs are better than the anime arcs
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>>285110311
Nah, nothing will beat the absolute kino of
>Yakuza Bratva war
>Vampire twins
>Roberta’s blood trail
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>>285110357
Roberta saga is trash, the japan arc is better in the manga, the twins is fine
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>>285109961
Based.
Fuck dirty sharty memes.
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>>285091326
>I hope they finish it and isn't toned down for stupid gaijins....
IMO
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>>285110805
>Stockings
Based.
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How did Roberta get AIDS
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>>285110849
Man, that's fucking gay.
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>>285110928
Why?
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>>285110389
do you think her milk glows in the dark haha...
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>>285111599
SHE glows in the dark.
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>>285111014
Maybe he meant the text.
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>>285112370
Didn't notice. Thanks.
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>>285091326
Didn't the source go to shit long ago? Who cares anymore?
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>>285103899
>>285110471
Gosh she's pretty.
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>>285106327
They're interesting, but not better. I give them more credit than most people would, but also acknowledge that the newer they are, the less they carry the spirit of the original.
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>>285092483
the horrendous hiatuses made me initially feel negative about that arc, but once I could read it fully from start to finish it became one of my favorites
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>>285113400
Lucky bastard.
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>>285098972
hey, she looks like the french chick
>>285099616
thats what i thought too
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>>285113919
I bet she's in a wheelchair because she got pregnant
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>retconned Roberta into the wheelchair which was originally just OVA fanfiction
You guys realize this means Revy getting raped is now most likely 100% canon in the manga too.
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>>285114066
I doubt Hiroe keeps tracks of small details at this point. It's been 20 years, and he only works on this whenever he stops slacking around. How much would you forget about a work you only visit once or two times a year? Dunno.
>285114105
Kys.
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>>285101778
>firebombing and executions = order
yeah sure little buddy
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>>285114105
Just go and asking on twitter
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>Enter black lagoon reddit
>Search garcia out of curiosity
>Find people crying about "muh age gap" like morons
Why I did this to myself? Not to talk about how stupid it is to watch a series about people getting tortured, mutilation and gore and you start crying about le age gap of fictional characters. Fucking losers. I hope that Hiroe at least comes back to their relationship eventually and spits all the fucking normalfags with a full-blown sex scene.
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>>285114225
I'm honestly surprised that Hiroe didn't manage to reach an ending by now with rock banging revy every day when Takahashi pretty much wrapped it up Jormungand in 70 chapters with a /ss/ ending kek.
It's not like the story is complex either, it's just Hiroe doesn't want it to end because he knows nothing he will make next will be as successful as Black Lagoon was.
>>285114371
why you do this to yourself anon..desu it's hard to find a place that still talks about Black lagoon so I get you anon
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>>285106464
I think BL sucks for a handful of reasons, but the killer is that it's a crime thriller without any teeth. A running constant across any even half-decent crime thriller (Breaking Bad, The Wire, Bebop, etc.) is that it's a dirty dirty business where people get fucking killed. Major or otherwise notable characters dying is a given in these stories because it's generally understood that these people are engaged in a brutal, fringe-class way of life and put their lives on the line every day to get by; a crime drama without a real bodycount is like a comedy that isn't funny, it doesn't fucking work. I've seen comedies that understand this.

It's been over twenty years since Black Lagoon came out and literally none of the major cast has bitten it, not even secondaries like Sawyer and Shenhua. The only characters that ever die are whatever designated jobbers Hiroe writes in from arc to arc, and you'll always see them coming from frame fucking one. Did anyone think Hansel and Gretel were going to stick around? This is a story so gutless that an arc explicitly revolving around one of its strongest characters going postal ends with no one of note dying (not even Roberta) so we could get a fucking "kicked in the nuts" gag.

It's no wonder Hiroe barely writes this shit anymore; in his infinite wisdom, he decided the Lagoon crew should actually get a new member after twenty fucking years. We are fathoms beyond the point where BL might have done anything even slightly compelling as far as the narrative goes; just off the top of my head, Revy and Rock should have fucked ten years ago, we have enough vague bullshit "will they won't they" romance bait couples as it is. What you end up having is a manga that doesn't develop its setting, doesn't develop its characters, doesn't develop its romance and doesn't develop its update schedule. It's a fucking pinup calendar with set dressing, Hiroe should stick to porn and be done with it.
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>>285114662
>it's a crime thriller without any teeth
that's the thing, it's not a crime thriller, at least in the western understanding. It's heavily based on Chinese crime film, which is somewhat distinct in style and tone. Brother Mark literally is a character in Black Lagoon too.
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>>285114662
>Hiroe should stick to porn and be done with it.
I fully believe Hiroe wants that too, the comedy pages like le majeur doing dominatrix stuff with revy and Garcia banging Roberta is where Hiroe's heart is really at.
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>>285114662
You simple got the wrong idea of black lagoon, BL is basically a John woo movie not a crime thriller
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>>285091326
Is the author still making porn?
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>>285114598
I wouldn't mind if Hiroe keeps realising new arcs that are auto conclusive just as he has done in the past with the Vampire Twins, there are plenty of characters who haven't got their own "Roberta's Trail" arc. He has plenty of possibilities, and if you want an example of some dude who makes a mature story to last look at Baki. I love stories that are long when they cater to my taste. The real question here is that Hiroe hates money and can't force himself to work, despite knowing that Black Lagoon is his best and most appreciated work.
>>285114662
>(Breaking Bad, The Wire, Bebop, etc.)
You got this series wrong x2. Black Lagoon is a product of the early 2000s zeitgeist, is a series that is at the same time serious but with campy and lighthearted moments. Is similar to Hellsing, Death Note and Highlander. It has nothing to do with the kind of slow, pretentious and boring slop from the TV-centric shows you just mentioned. And thanks God for that.
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>>285091326
he should just sell it to NETFLIX

also then, new season might have Revy replaced with transgender character and Hiroe turning gay
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>>285114371
>Go to reddit
>Intentionally keyword search one of the things more widely accepted as controversial by the general audience
>Get upset that people don't like it when a very young character is used in an age gap romance
You fucking nonce.
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Drop dead gorgeous head shot
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>>285115266
>Hellsing and Death Note

Plenty of significant people bite the bullet in Hellsing and Death Note because Hirano and Aoba aren't hacks and understand the very basic premise of your story having more tension when recurring/major characters die. Hiroe would never write a character like Naomi Misora or Rip Van Winkle in a hundred years, he doesn't have the stomach for it, they'd stick around for the rest of the story and do fuck-all. They also understand the value of a story fucking ending, which Hiroe never really seemed to grasp.
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>>285115857
I have a hard time taking hypocrites and pearl clutchers seriously.
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>>285116108
>Hirano and Aoba aren't hacks
Hellsing has a good ending, but incomplete.
Death Note's ending is pretty much controversial and everyone agrees is kind of shit.
>never write a character like Naomi Misora or Rip Van Winkle
Did you actually watch Hellsing? Rip Van Winkle doesn't "properly die" he just lives inside Seras Victoria by the end. Naomi is hardly a major character in Death Note.
>he doesn't have the stomach for it
Counterpoint: Characters dying don't make a story better. Is usually made by amateur authors to impress the zoomer audience before running the series to the ground. See: Shingeki no Kyojin. Even Death Note suffers after L's death.
>a story fucking ending
Hirano is lazy, even lazier than Hiroe. He still hasn't completed Drifters or Hellsing: The Dawn after all these years. I prefer having hope for a future good ending in Black Lagoon than to have a rushed ending that sucks and I lament years after the fact.
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>>285113400
The lack of fanart and doujinshi's makes me very big sad.
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>>285116272
>YOU RETARDED PORN ADDICTED COOME-ACK!
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>>285092901
Nazi episode was unironically the best one
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>>285116744
I wish Hiroe would go back to her being Lotton and Sawyer's mom.
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>>285092901
>modern day nazi larpers
>not pathetic losers
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>>285116448
Just imagine how violent, strong and caring for her kids Roberta would be.
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>>285116335
>t-the ending is "incomplete" for hellsing and death note's isn't good!!

That these stories bothered to wrap themselves up at all automatically pushes them above BL limping along for 20 years.

>rip doesn't die she's just one of alucard's souls now, also naomi wasn't that important

Rip having a cameo near the end doesn't change the fact that her function in the story as an autonomous person has long-since passed by then. None of Alucard's familiars are "alive" because they have no agency or way to affect the plot. They're about as alive as his guns are.

Naomi isn't around for much of the story, but she's a very big deal while she is. Light makes it a point that he'd be fucked if he hadn't killed her right there.

>characters dying don't inherently make a story better

Sure, there are lots of stories where that's true, but BL is not one of them. Hiroe wants to have his cake and eat it too, he wants Roanapur to be a FUCKED UP and VIOLENT place while also making sure none of his many Lovable Scrimblos ever face the music for it. "People" don't really die in BL when all the victims are nameless mooks with fuck-ugly faces and forgettable bad guys with no shelf life. Life-and-death scenarios stop being exciting or tense to watch when you know exactly who lives and who dies at the start of every fight scene. You want an "amateur author" mistake? Holding on to every little thing and person you write like they're sacred is Hackshit 101.

>L dying was bad

L dying halfway through is a great plot beat in and of itself. Ohba's follow-through being mediocre doesn't change this.

>Hirano is even lazier than Hiroe

Hirano made 89 chapters over eleven years, Hiroe made 116 over twenty-three. Go next.

>i'd rather fantasize about the magical good ending that'll definitely happen in another twenty years than want it done at a reasonable pace

Send me a postcard, I heard Mt. Delulu's nice this time of year.
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>>285091326
I wish, rock became such a cool character in the manga. I'd love to see his moments adapted.
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>>285091982
>wanting a sequel to FLCL
That's your first mistake there bub.

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>>285113423
Only retards with shit taste think the sequels were good.
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>lust provoking expression
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I want to impregnate Balalaika, if she dominates me into it.
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>>285119746
It wouldn't be possible any other way (without dying)
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>>285114662
its action movie slice of life you fucking retarded Amifag
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>>285119746
Based
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>>285110357
I remember being hyped af for the Yakuza arc only to watch them all get bodied by Belalaika's guys in an episode, so I quit this show.
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>>285120764
And thats based, this is an IP from a Jap.

Black lagoon is one of the few mainstream work that shits over that yakuza really well
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>>285120956
They didn't need to win, I wanted a good fight.
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>>285106978
No hes right this is what this show is.
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>>285121315
>rotten yakuza
>actual good fight agaisnt russian mafia
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>>285117887
>wrap themselves up at all automatically pushes them above BL
Nah. SnK ended like shit and is laughing stock across the whole Internet, including their fans. A shit rushed ending is worse than no ending, since it tarnishes the whole manga and the fanbase.
>Rip having a cameo near the end doesn't change
Isn't this just cope? He's mentioned to be relevant and be the protector of the nu-Hellsing mansion. That's more than a cameo. Alucard's familiar can't even speak or have any personality. He also helps Seras Victoria win more than one fight so yeah, the guy is a big deal even after his "death".
>he wants Roanapur to be a FUCKED UP and VIOLENT
It IS violent. The protagonists are under constant threat of violence in shoot outs, bombings, general brawling and gang war through the story. They just don't die at the first sigh of conflict which would extremely lame as it was already established. Nobody wants to read a shit story with cannon fodder. What's really interesting is to see how the protagonists manage to get out of a REALLY fucked up situation using their wits and smarts. If I already know that every character appearing in an arc is going to die to generate "le drama" I'm going to check out and not get invested in them.
Also, you're asking for deaths in a manga with only 13 volumes, a handful of characters that are extremely charismatic. Kill them and you would kill the complete appeal of the story, which in many cases are underdeveloped. Real memorable, and successful stories rarely start kill their cast.
>Ohba's follow-through being mediocre doesn't change this.
Is the logical conclusion to killing important characters. Every character doesn't exist on a vacuum, they exist through their role in the story, and when you kill them you leave a void that now needs to be filled. So asking for killings and then complaining about the story going to shit is the definition of loving causes but hating consequences.
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>>285116335
>Even Death Note suffers after L's death.
t. anime only
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>>285117887
>Hirano made 89 chapters over eleven years, Hiroe made 116 over twenty-three.
Hiroe has more manga made, though.
>Re: Creators
>Manga of the Dead
>341 Sentoudan
>Gunparade March
>Black Lagoon
Hiroe is depressed lazy. Hirano is a lazy fuck.
>Send me a postcard, I heard Mt. Delulu's nice this time of year.
Cope and seethe my friend. The ending is going to be amazing and I keep my hopes up for a second BL revival. Maybe one day Hirano will complete The Dawn and you will stop being bitter.
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>>285121920
>Eda, Bala, Revy and Feng all want a piece of the salaryman
whats his secret?
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>>285114371
There's nothing wrong with complaints about fiction, but on this particular topic?
They're inferiors, Anon-kun. No sense of romance whatsoever.
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>>285122262
>Eda
Just trolling Revy.
Foe the others, Rock is a weak man yet not 100% spineless and is veryvlevel-headed. That's like catnip to dominatrix types.
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>>285114662
Watch John Woo and Ringo Lam movies.
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>>285123370
Roanapur corrupts him tho. Rock has badness in him.
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>>285122262
He has a few things going for him that makes the bad girls go crazy:
>Despite being in a shit situation retains some of his innocence
>But is cunning enough to formulate a plan or a situation to get away with his ideas
>Retains his cool in bad moments thanks to years of soul crushing work as salary man
>Doesn't try to take advantage of the girls
>He's not pussy or overtly violent, but is not a pushover that doesn't let other women walk over him (refusal to use Revy's approved hawaian shirt)
He's not a pushover but also is not a "smartass criminal" trying to get away with disgusting shit just because power or money, instead he is often moved by idealism. Which is a rare quality in a world where most people are backstabbing scum, finally these women are surrounded by soldiers like Balalaika or guys who are afraid of them like Revy, while Rock isn't afraid of saying "no" but at the same time extending his hand to help them.
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Anyone have a clip of THIS GUN IS ATWOSHUS I can't find it
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Revy is literally made to get railed by Dutch's superior BBC
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>>285121760
>muh SnK again + a shit rushed ending is better than no ending

The thing about a shitty rushed ending that's good for both parties is that that's it. It's over. You walk out and it was bad, oh well, better luck next time. You move on to something else, the creator hopefully does too, the end.

>the protector of the nu-Hellsing mansion and helps Sera

Are you fucking talking about Pip? I said RIP. Rip Van Winkle, the sniper girl Alucard kills.

>Roanapur actually IS violent and the main cast is constantly in danger but what's interesting is how they make

It's been 116 chapters and the Lagoon Crew's biggest setback was Dutch losing the dock. They are very much not in danger of anything by this point. That's fine to an extent - nobody's really expecting Revy or Rock to get fucked up - but the thing about your characters being under "constant threat" of eating shit is that they have to eat shit at some point or you're just taking the piss

And how they "manage" to get out of a situation? Are you fucking serious? This is a story that starts with a ship flying into a helicopter, if you're reading this to see something witty and smart you're completely lost.

>nobody wants to read a shit story with cannon fodder

Black Lagoon is, by design, a story built on the back of cannon fodder. There would be no room for any of Hiroe's many invincible murder-gods to do anything "cool" if it wasn't for the ugly fucks, the Mr. Chins and random cartel bosses and nameless Americans that form the corpse piles at the end. You can tell the bad guys in BL fucking suck because pic related is the only mildly cool one, by virtue of being able to fight Roberta to a standstill, and you wouldn't even know what his name was if it weren't for the filename.

>you're asking for deaths in a manga with only 116 chapters, if anyone of note died it kills the story!!

You haven't read much at all if you think 116 chapters isn't enough time to introduce, develop and kill notable characters.
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>>285124533
>the "logical conclusion" to L dying is bad writing because he served a specific function in the story that you need to now fill and Part 2 of DN being a downgrade is just the natural consequence of L's death

All of this is basically just saying you have a poor imagination. Can you really not imagine a good version of a story framed around Light living in a post-L world? I would argue that what made P2 so clunky was immediately replacing L with Diet L, and that the basic premise of "Moriarty wins halfway through the story and has to deal with the fallout" makes for great material.

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>>285114893
>>285123410
I don't get what this running theme is that Black Lagoon's complete lack of meaningful stakes, consequences or tension is completely vindicated by the fact it's "based off" John Woo movies. You know what's nice about shit like Face/Off and The Killer? They're MOVIES. They've got open-and-shut stories where important characters are born, live and die over the course of two hours. There isn't a single BL arc that can stack up to even Mission Impossible 2. This is like saying a shitty camcorder vid of a kid smashing his action figures together is actually good because it's like Marvel.


>>285121867
>The ending is going to be amazing and it's gonna come back, bla bla Hirano

Re: delusional
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>>285125040
>his action figures together is actually good because it's like Marvel.
I don't think this is a good example, anon. Marvel is... ehhhh.......
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>>285125902
If this happens I would make my personal mission to make black lagoon threads through the whole year.
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>>285126029
i think black lagoon ends with rock and revy ruling roanapur just like how chang and balalaika are. so maybe... if hiroe stops fucking shitposting on twitter so much we'd get it sooner
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>>285126195
I see that a lot of people are posting to him their purchase of the manga. Especially from the west. Maybe the absolute madmen gets some motivation after seeing he hasn't been forgotten and decides to grace us with this happy ending.
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>>285114893
>>285123410
John Woo is overrated slop. He ripped off Fernando Di Leo but without the suspense and the downbeat inspired italian neorealism shit. It's the same problem as tarantino slop. Americans and numale asians don't get how it's like growing up in mussolini's italy.
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>>285127201
How is Di Leo's gun fu?
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>>285093001
I'd fuck Eda.
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>>285127201
>growing up in mussolini's italy.
You mean boomer Italian films that whine about how they were sad and gay? Real riveting stuff.
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>>285091691
well he's at least replying all the fans who are showing their merch
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>>285112370
>>285112370
You know, she's a better "Superhero gone bad" than alot of american takes on the matter
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>>285130560
I don't think an ex-commie terrorist counts as a superhero by any means. She committed all her violence as Roberta the maid entirely for revenge against those who harmed her masters.
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>>285130658
She reeks of "Frank Miller 80's/Sin City character" from a mile, with much more drugs in her system
And I would not dismiss the idea that Hiroe knew Ennis's Punisher MAX
And let's not start with Balalaika being a sexy, more subdued Two-Face
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>>285122010
Majeur, of course
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>>285130963
>Balalaika being a sexy, more subdued Two-Face
Other than the burn scars, she's not much like him at all. If anything she's more like Fisk/Kingpin.
As for Punisher influence, given the time of publication, it was more likely that Ennis' more comedic Marvel Knights run was a factor, as MAX wasn't published until 2004, and that's assuming that particular run of the comic was translated to Japanese at the time.
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>>285131642
With Hiroe beign the westaboo he was, I can see him importing the issues just to watch the panels
Still, not having a spin-off about Roberta training Fabiola or her break-out with the Farc is a bit disappointing, have to say
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>>285126195
rocky will definitely sit in the chair
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>>285105702
What kind of gun is that?
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His tweet is getting a lot of traction in social media let's FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO.
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>>285116335
>Rip Van Winkle doesn't "properly die" he just lives inside Seras Victoria by the end.
Nayrt, but Rip Van Winkle is the vampire chick with glasses that gets killed by Alucard on the ship in vol 5. Pip is the French merc guy that merges with Seras.
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>>285099616
I'm happy she's finally out of the closet for good
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>>285135812
Revy was always a sub LARPing as a Dom.
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>>285124533
Nobody moves out from shit endings. This completely ignores how all works of fiction or art works: when they're good, they get perpetuated in posterity even if their following is niche their legacy lives on. If they're mid they tend to be forgotten but if they're outright terrible they get perpetuated as an example of what not to do and a negative feedback loop of toxicity around the work. If you want, we can go over manga/anime that had terrible endings and how the fanbase was affected by it and none of them being positive examples.
>Are you fucking talking about Pip?
You seem to be correct here. In this case I don't even know why you mentioned this girl because she is a literal jobber. I have the feeling you only think a character is important based on vibes and you liking her design and not on the actual significance they have in the plot.
>It's been 116 chapters and the Lagoon Crew's biggest setback was Dutch losing the dock.
That's a lot when you consider they're criminals who don't have much besides their own lives. Is like a bum losing his tent, for him is a big deal even if for you is just a tent.
>"constant threat" of eating shit
They have eaten shit a few times. Besides the Dock Rock got fucked up by 1) being unable to save the Vampire Twinks and 2) being unable to save the Yakuza girl. This led to his development in the Roberta Arc.
>witty and smart
The show is witty. Is just not realistic (at least not for your standards, for me it has the perfect balance).
> "cool" if it wasn't for the ugly fucks,
You keep repeating this, but the Vampire Twins and the Yakuza bro were legit characters and I was sad when they got killed. This is just headcanon bro.
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>>285125040
>All of this is basically just saying you have a poor imagination.
If I wanted to make my own story I would just do it or engage in fanfiction. However on the time being I prefer the author to take care of the story and don't disappoint me constantly by taking rash, dumb decisions to appear "deep" or "dark".
>>285134632
Thanks. I genuinely forgot that nazi girl. Honestly thought the muscle girl was more memorable.
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>>285126029
SOON.
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>>285091326
Wired Wild Red Card would be enough for a season, so I think it could be worth it.

>>285091691
I did, now what?

>>285091982
Black Lagoon has manga past what's been animated, you fucking troglodyte.

>>285092483
I enjoyed it.
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>>285092901
If you actually read/watched that part, you'd see that it's actually somewhat sympathetic towards the Wehrmacht and Kriegsmarine guys back in 1945.
The series also has some casual racism, if you enjoy that.

>>285093372
If you want it to happen, you kind of need to make it happen.
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>>285094516
Not particularly unusual. Even the author of Yotsubato and Azumanga did a few before he got famous.

>>285099477
It wouldn't, it's meant for the 90s as a setting.

>>285104523
Fundamentally correct post in all ways.
Reading it as it was released at the time was torturous due to hiatuses and editorial meddling, but reading the actual finished volumes is another experience entirely, and it's very enjoyable.
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>>285138699
Is there a romantic scene with more aura than this one in all of anime? Like besides actual kisses and fucking.
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>>285139107
Kriegsmarine was notoriously much more hostile towards the Nazis than the rest of the german army and was not purged because they were not so easily replaceble. That's the reason why they could made Das Boot back in the day
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>>285104341
The nip reads worse in connotation than the translation implies.
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>>285139241
You must be a real old timer if you managed to read Roberta's arc while it was being published. You have my street credit for what is worth, anon.
>editorial meddling
What happened?
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>>285139943
What is worse? All in all is nothing you wouldn't expect from the author of something like black lagoon. My only grip is the brainrot. On the bright side he has been warming up to the overseas fanbase in that tweet.
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>>285140009
>what happened

A bunch of shit, read the Vol 12 interview to have a glimpse
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>>285097625
Yeah.
BL is way better.
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Black Lagoon is just about sexy girls with guns.
Fucking autists I swear.
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>>285140452
Well let's dump it so we can all read it together.
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>>285141888
I feel like the 90s is the perfect time for BL to take place.
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>>285141912
In other words, Hiroe was dooming and glooming since the beginning despite having a diamond in rough.
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>>285141941
Rock x Revy kiss is canonically sexual. Based!
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>>285141961
>The scars are definitely my fetish
Kek.
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>>285141990
I feel bad for the twins and the yakuza girl
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>>285105808
done. My opinion is now I DON'T FUCKING GET IT
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH ROCK
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>>285142026
Of course Urobuchi had to introduce some disgusting shit to the story with 0 payoff.
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>>285141941
God bless Hiroe; man is utterly baseed
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>>285142049
So apparently the Roberta's Blood Trail was hard to do but editor helped. Can't really understand what they mean when they readers were split.
>>285142036
Got tired of being bamboozled. Also you probably want to know if you really completed the OVA's that Roberta missing limbs and the rape are not canonical to the manga.
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>>285142026
>>285141990
>actually knows a lot about the Soviet Union compared to the layman
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>>285142130
saying "opinions were split" is a nice way of saying people hated it
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>>285142130
So he has to ham it up and play 5D chess that doesn't get properly explained? What is his character supposed to be now even?
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>>285142130
Oh so that what they mean. Fabiola's story got cut, but apparently Hiroe was too exhausted after that arc and couldn't think how to continue.
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>>285142211
Depression kicks in. Bad rumours ensue. Anons, remember to be nice to Hiroe please.
>>285142186
I doubt it. According to both himself and his editor just after Roberta's arc Black Lagoon got big enough that Hiroe wanted to take his family to Hawaii. He arc also got animated as standalone OVAs. But I would be interested to see japanese opinion back at the time.
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>>285142211
My friend in Christ, you ended writing something more akin to TLOU2 while attempting to write Maidernator 2, you really needed some help
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>>285142318
Damn, sounds like he was in a really bad place back then. I guess we don't give enough credit to those who just put out manga weekly or consistently.
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>>285142408
People give him too much shit for the hiatus, I am 100 percent sympathetic
I liked the most recent arc personally, it was fucking awesome
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>>285142408
Apparently he has something cool in mind for the ending. This is a reminder to make use good use of your young years anons. I will make sure to buy what material I can this year.
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>>285142495
I jobbed to the file uploader.
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>>285142534
Ok, that's all. These are just notes. He, the editor and the assisant seem to be one of these rare breeds who still take inspiration from outside the medium to make their art. Make sure to give him some love if you can in Xitter.
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>>285142534
>now all you say is that you want to have a sauna
he is literally me
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>>285142463
yeah considering that he's so active online he probably saw (or still sees) all the shit throwed at him. is not always a good idea to be an asshole
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>>285142585
thanks dumpanon
I really should pick up a legit copy of his works
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>>285142534
Why is the interview titled "Loser's Horizon"? He considers himself a loser?
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>>285142670
Wonder if he looks at all the porn people make of Black Lagoon? Like he's certainly seen some, but I wonder if he keeps up with it?
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>>285142718
i think he keeps an eye on the online community for certain including fan arts, that's how he cough wind of everyone getting excited about a second season in the first place
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>>285142688
Dug a little and apparently is a pun by his own editor on Hiroe's name
>Hello foreigners! This column is just a chat between the original author of "Black Lagoon", Rei Hiroe, and his editor, who have no much content. It is sometimes published in the "Monthly Sunday GX" published by Shogakukan. Mr. Hiroe is very delicate and immediately spits out a weak sound of paranoia to the editor in charge. Because the way he spits out his weak voice is unusual, the editor in charge named Mr. Hiroe "Hetare Bancho". That's why I named this column "Hetare Horizon".
Also
>Even so, it is read in quite a few countries. During this time, I received an email from a Pole. Then France, Germany, Canada, England... On the other hand, they don't come from the United States very often. The rest comes from Malaysia and Asia in general.
>If you go a little downtown in Brazil, I think there are places that do the same thing without reading "Black Lagoon"... (Laughter).
GIGAKEK
https://sundaygx.com/blacklagoon/loser/
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>>285114662
>Did anyone think Hansel and Gretel were going to stick around?
I thought Gretel (Hansel) would get away at least.
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>>285142670
he seems to be a bit too online, retweeting ICE stuff
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>>285144045
>retweeting ICE stuff
wtf I didn't know he was chuddie.
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>>285144045
sadly, that's just the nature of modern social media. it wants you doomscrooling forever to keep your engagement. and none of us are inmune to it.
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>>285091691
Give me pregnant Roberta and I might consider it.
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oh boy, black lagoon in modern fucking flat shot low background detail choppy framerate outsourced slop style

sign me up for more stupid unfulfilling garbage trying to scratch an itch that doesn't need to be scratched
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>>285145483
isn't the license in charge of madhouse? just give it to the same guys and we could have something decent
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>>285145483
>isn't the license in charge of madhouse?
What do you mean? Madhouse holds the license, or the licensors are in charge of Madhouse studio?
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So are the unadapted arcs worth reading?
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>>285146905
They're good but they aren't very long. Anons seem to like the Feng arc best than the last one.
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>>285146233
It was Madhouse who made the original Black Lagoon anime, if they made a second season the most natural part would be giving it to them again. Of course you can always end like with One Punch Man season 3, but Black Lagoon is just at Madhouse's alley of experimental, but atractive stuff. Is basically a "westaboo" series. And I think there must be at least one or two experimented directors interested in such a bet.
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>>285146905
rock meet his female soulmate twin, the arc is great
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>>285091326
Black Lagoon, but give it the Stargaze treatment
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>>285148437
>>285148844
then picked up
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>>285139478
the entire relationship is unique, let alone the scene. i don't know why the cigarette kiss is the most we've seen of the two together (aside from the constant implications they slept together)
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>>285148948
good reading!
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Feng is very cute!
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>>285149566
I wonder what kind of seiyuu she would get if another season was made. the original ones were all top tier.
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>>285144110
Haven't the guy tweeted to Musk to gut himself around one year ago?
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I dont remember a single thing about his anime other than the revy being raped scene that used to be posted every single thread
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Wake me up when best girl gets a second season.
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>>285148844
>Revy scolding nerds at the internet cafè with a Mr.Hands reference

That shit needs to be animated
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>>285146905
They're pretty good for the most part
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Why are authors in Japan allowed to just not finish their fucking stories after 20 years
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Rock is exclusively built for Sawyer
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>>285092000
>He doesn't get to tell anyone to buy shit
why the fuck would you think like that. hes not.
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>>285139011
>Black Lagoon has manga past what's been animated, you fucking troglodyte.
So does K-on, and no one in their right mind wants that shit adapted past what we got.
You fucking retard.
You utter brainlet.
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>>285153137
>Brings up a completely different manga
>Acts like the quality of one is indicative of the quality of another
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>>285153137
Your mom clearly drank while carrying you. Black Lagoon has good content left to adapt, the question is if the industry will adapt it well, which it might or might not.

>>285146905
Yes. Wired Red Wild Card is solid.

>>285152938
No, she's built for me.
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>>285144110
Hiroe is some kind of socialist. Not the modern western kind bawling about objectification, muh representation, silence is violence, etc, but he's somewhere on the left.

>>285150983
Yeah, but that's not exactly a strongly partisan trait in itself, to be fair, and I think Hiroe's reaction came from him raising prices for Twitter premium or something like that. For every one thing Musk has done which I think is legitimate good, there's 5 which make me think of him as a cringe faggot, and 5 which make think like he deserves to have his feet run over by a bus.
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>>285091326

Honestly i´m already kind of fine with Rock and Revy "cigarette kiss" and leaving up things open so, if we are just going to revive the show to make it worse and leave it on a cliffhanger for another decade i don´t really need that... heck, i probably don´t even need a different ending at this point either.
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>>285150983
Based. Musk is a fucking moron.
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>>285148986
>>285153840
I wouldn’t be mad if the cigarette kiss was the end because it’s a perfect scene and their chemistry is insane, but at the same time I want the same thing as the guy who said they should have been fucking 10 years ago.
>>285152791
It only happens for successful series. The publisher will accept the artist stepping down from work without canceling the series, usually for health reasons because they destroyed their body for the career. They go home and collect disability or rely on family and royalties. The publisher gets to fill the regular slot with a new series, and when the artist makes new chapters they know they can schedule them to market the magazine so there is no downside. Less successful manga artists and juniors on a regular schedule get shitcanned for missing deadlines like anyone else.
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>>285152791
Because they work harder than most artists in the world even if they take years of vacations later down the line.
>>285154214
Is a 2-way road. While you can get away with more shit when you're bigger you also have more pressure on your neck and more expectations down the line. At one point not only your editor, but the whole magazine can start relaying on you, just like at Oda for example. To certain you often carry smaller authors on your shoulder.
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>>285153990
She’s so perfect
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you people are dogs
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Btw, more Sawyer volumes are coming, I've already got two ready.
(I got bodied by a heatwave in summer, and then life sidelined me for a bit, so I kept putting it off for a while).
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>>285154999
Who wouldn't be a dog for women like these?
Be it wanting them to dominate you, or you wanting to dominate, maybe even break them, these girls invoke strong lust.
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>>285155046
scanlated? pls post i am starving. cant believe people only translated 5 volumes
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>>285156090
Soon-ish.
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>>285155791
This is the best version of this meme I’ve seen so far
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Tessa
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>>285156431
Thanks, it was very low effort and unimaginative.
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>>285153455
>stretch to aspect
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>>285091326
What's there left to animate? The OVAs covered all remaining content and it's not like the manga is still ongoing.
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>>285157877
Nigga theres 2 finished arcs and one on going
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>>285091691
Nigga draw the manga
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>>285157877
It didn't stop at Blood Trail, you mongoloid.
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>>285158106
>>285158372
Could've fooled me then. Maybe if he wants people to care then he should release more than 1 chapter a year.
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>>285093631
>not a single unnatractive woman in the list
how does he do it
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There's not enough material for another season. They guy takes like 5 years to do one volume of manga. Plus all the stories after what's already been animated fucking suck.
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>>285159589
> Plus all the stories after what's already been animated fucking suck.
no one said ever, next arc is great
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>>285152791
>in Japan
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>>285159617
>no one said ever
I did. I said in the post you're fucking quoting.
I'll say it again. All the stories after what's already been animated fucking suck.
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>>285159849
the arcs are good, youre just a retard



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