What killed anime originals? It's not even that there are fewer and fewer shows each season, it's that they're objectively worse than 10 years ago. Either 2010s were an anomaly or something has happened to the industry during last 5 or so years.2013 was only 13 years ago...
yeah, it was me. sorry, I won't do it again
Anime got popular.
God, shut the fuck up shounenteen. You make these threads every day.
>they're objectivelyAccording to your gay taste?
I just think boomers were much better at making art than the following generations. This may have been because most of them were so fucking retarded, the good ones were also very tasteful. We may see a similar thing with zoomers.
>>285163784what originals were so much better 10 years ago?all originals were pretty mediocre, beside some movies and even rarely OVAs, but those were mostly uplifted by visuals not the story
>>285164116Boomers are still the ones making anime.I will fucking kill you.
>>285164173You can't keep making great art. The great boomer artists mostly said their piece, the issue is the following generations haven't produced artists of the same caliber.
>>285164161All of them, most of them are still posted about this day, Madoka even has a yearly rewatch. The question is, what anime originals can you name from past 5 years? Probably none
>>285163784Too many godawful and fumbled endings. Originals are great because nobody knows what's happening next. Problem is that most of the time there's fucking nothing happening next and we don't figure that out until the credits roll on the last episode.
>>285163784The writing
>>285164201Sonny Boy and Apocalypse Hotel are good. The issue is the industry dove deep into CGDCT and iyashikei ocean, so you don't get shows like Madoka anymore.
>>285164201>uhhh all of them!Great answer, bot. You ignored the 500 that aren't posted about to this day.
>>285164256Gems are always surrounded by crap but now there are no gems, only less shit
>>285164201I can think of at least 5 I enjoyed in that time frame. You're just a retard
>>285163784You were younger. Now you're older and psyop'd yourself into thinking you had to be overly critical and angry about everything.
>>285164690Evangelion was a anime original, it has nothing to do with age
>>285164811And evangelion sucks, and is right up there with dragonball z for overrated shit normalfags who don't like anime like. Is that really your argument for this tired, overused "old good new bad" thread?
>And evangelion sucks
>>285163784If your director is so good, what's stopping him from making it into the WN/LN/manga/webcomic industry and writing an original plot there? mm?
>>285165653The way LNs and manga are structured, they're designed to sell as long as possible, to churn as many volumes as possible. People might be unaware but Haruhi is still being published so if you make a anime about a LN it will never have a definitive ending, it's just an advertisement and not a self contained story
>>285163843Dang it, anon, I thought we had talked about this. The only one allowed to destroy anime is Kyoani.
Lmao at the Leftoid Zoomers and Gen Alpha thinking 2020 Anime is better than 2000s and 2010s.
Japan making good originals has always been extremely rare.They have terrible terrible scriptwriter.
>>285166124>WN/webcomic (ONE)You can make any of those without that or even an editor.
>>285164811Evangelion is ass. Pretentious westoid faggotry that ran out of budget before it ended
>>285166313I grew up with 00's and 10's anime. I love 00's anime but it's objectively worse. Anime back then was drawn out with loads of still frames, there wasn't nearly as much of movement on screen. The colors were a lot flatter too and the cgi was abhorrent. Then you had all the filler episodes, deviating from the source altogether, retarded color palletes, etc.
>>285166473At least it had a ending. 99% of stories in anime don't fucking have one anymore!
Great, another retard who doesn't even look into whats airing making grand claims.
>>285163784>What killed anime originals?like all creative pursuits - capitalism and pursuit of profit.you might have to watch [C] to understand
>>285166882But there isn't any airing right now
>>285164256Not him but Sora no Woto and Strike Witches and Girls und Panzer all came out around the same time, Gargantia for its flaws was fun and pretty, Shirobako is close to its 10th, there were a lot of anime being made seemingly for the straight-to-DVD/BD market that would be mobile game tie-ins now
>>285167166Hell, even Gainax is dead now
>>285166582No you don't. On the contrary, animation hasn't improved at all. The total amount of good has largely remained the same while the amount of bad has only grown subdivided into more throwaway seasonals, but the quality of layouts has absolutely declined. The post-processing that makes modern colors less "flat" (than specifically early 00s, as late 00s and 10s outgrew that problem) also makes them much more dull and homogenous because there's zero consideration for the light sources in the genga and or color palette in base tones, only copying what's on the design doc. The CGI was so poor because it was so nonexistent.Getting back on topic, a big distinction between old originals and new originals is that old ones were more often than not 2 cours, often got renewals after, and were even sometimes a full 4 cours. Now, sponsors simply aren't willing to take the financial risk on originals more than 1 cour. Why is it more anime is produced than ever but all the extra throughput is directed to narou-kei slop? Much like filler, those lengths are a sign of abundance, not decadence. Likewise, some of the best anime were produced thanks to directorial fiat, such as the GitS movie and SAC, Karekano, and Excel Saga. Imagine unironically defending moving manga.
>>285167099That it isn't true though.
>>285167241That studio has been fukken dead for a decade now.
>>285164201>>285164256I recently watched Kurumi and Kaleido Star and was taken aback simply by how rich with character they are compared to modern offerings. There's a hidden treasure trove in decades past; just because people don't talk about them doesn't mean they don't deserve the credit.>>285166882Okay, so let's look at what originals are airing right now then>Hoppe-chan>GelPiyo>SI-VISNow this is a good selection!Retard
>>285167488>implying you've watched a single episode of those kill yourself
>b-but the anime ogs are 1 season I prefer 2 >LNs are bad for having too many vols. btw All this cope and goalposting from director wankers is just sad. Godly adaptations of existing sources like Frieren and Demon Slayer is the future.
>>285167588And you have? It would be great if I could find the first two subbed anywhere on the internet. SI-VIS meanwhile is dogshit yes.
>retarded niggers are posting bullshit agian
>>285167099Anime is over. It's done. That's it.
>>285167675>things no one saidAnd for every Frieren or Demon Slayer you'll get 20 Biscuit Hammers and 3D Kanojos.
Oh look, it's this thread again
>>285167730>>285167981
>>285163784the way anime is produced now doesn't allow for many anime originals
>>285166582There is CGI from 20 years ago that looks equivalent or even better than what comes out nowadays. The only difference is the absolute worst and most primitive CGI no longer exists, but the baseline has changed very little.
>>285167441Even when it was near-dead it gave us Houkago no Pleiades, which was another great original from around ten years ago. This year we just got Turkey and another PA Works fever dream.
>>285165653Imagine wanting to make an original anime movie, but they're only funding adaptations, so you get an entire ongoing manga published just so you can then adapt it into a movie.What a ridiculous idea.
>>285169420PA Works did both AOTY and WAOTY contenders last year
>>285163784Nagi no Asukara was the last good anime original
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>>285167166>Sora no WotoI miss that anime. That at Sola. Also Angel Beats even if it imploded at the end
New Nanoha is airing later this year. Are you going to watch that or are you going to make up some excuse for why it'll be bad or doesn't count?
>>285163843DAAAAAAAAAAAAIZ
>>285164173Boomers still had some genuine lived experiences. Fiction wasn't their main interface with the world so art wasn't as incestuous and derivative.
>daily dumb reasons to not watch anime thread #237
>>285163784Onmyo Kaiten was pretty good and aired last year.
Just imagine the most show of the season being an original, it's not going to happen anymore.
>>285172888That never happened
If Kill la Kill, Madoka, Death Parade, and Odd Taxi all aired last year, current /a/ would call all of them garbage.
>>285163784that bitch did
>>285163784Was Blood+ a manga or an anime first? Man what a weird show
>>285163784More like why can't they find or hire good writers for a long-running series? For example, Urobuchi made a decent enough foundation out of Psycho-Pass but as with all things he writes, he's better at writing one-offs instead of the long-running cashcow series that Production IG wanted for it, so we're basically stuck with mediocre writing for subsequent seasons.
>>285163784Quality of art depends on the state culture and civilization is in. Basically everything has been noticeably worse in the latter half of 10s and now in 20s. Jewllywood movies and TV, gaymes, and yes even anime and manga too. It will be blatant in hindsight but most "fans" living through it lack the self-awareness to see it.
>>285163784Lack of Butcher. Half the good originals were him.
>>285167675Frieren is fucking ass though
>>285172955Or megalo box
>>285164201eh LycoReco is pretty recent
what season had the most originals? Anyone know? I'm guessing some season in the mid 00'sRather, I want to know which season had the highest percent of originals actually.
>>285174418Most in absolute or relative terms?
>>285174728Both
>>285174737That's little bit harder then, honestly I tried to look for it but the tool I used to use deprecated
>>285175085I can't find any site anymore that lists originals, I swear anilist or anichart used to let you filter and just see the originals for a season but I cant do it anymore.
>>285174728Relative will probably be mid 70's when the first mecha boom happened.
>anime was so much better when I was a kid!I guess so
>>285175102Anidb lets you filter out originals.
>>285163784OK UNC
>>285163784Here's a list of anime original series from 2020-2025 (with at least 6 full-length episodes). Sequels or spinoffs within existing franchises (e.g. SSSS.Dynazenon) are excluded, regardless of whether those franchises are anime original.TL;DR: Reports of the death of original anime have been greatly exaggerated.>2020: 14Great PretenderAkudama DriveBNAID: InvadedDeca-DenceKamisama ni Natta HiAppare-RanmanListenersTaisou Zamurainumber24GibiateSenyoku no SigrdrifaSkate Leading StarsMaesetsu>2021: 16Wonder Egg PrioritySK8Vivy: Fluorite Eye's SongOdd TaxiSonny BoyKaizoku OujoShiroi Suna no AquatopeRe-MainBakutenYasukeVisual PrisonBack ArrowKyoukai SenkiFairy RanmaruGyakuten Sekai no Denchi ShoujoShikizakura>2022: 16Lycoris RecoilAkiba Meido SensouShinobi no IttokiRenai FlopsDo It YourselfRyman's ClubBirdie Wing: Golf Girls' StoryTokyo 24-kuChikyuugai Shounen ShoujoHealer GirlBucchigire!Yurei DecoGunjou no FanfareExtreme HeartsExceptionChimimoTo be continued...
>>285176199>2023: 13Buddy DaddiesMahou Shoujo Magical DestroyersRevengerOvertakeOoyukiumi no KainaAyakaArs no KyojuuBokura no Ameiro ProtocolKamierabi GOD.appThe Marginal ServiceOpus ColorsKawagoe Boys SingMake My Day>2024: 16Ninja KamuiGirls Band CryYoru no Kurage wa OyogenaiMetallic RougeBucchigiri?!Shuumatsu Train Doko e Iku?NegaPosi AnglerMayonaka PunchMecha-udeNa-Nare Hana-NareYuuki Bakuhatsu Bang Bravern (spiritual successors qualify, I guess)Pon no MichiAstro NoteHighspeed EtoileMeiji Gekken: 1874Gekkan Mousou Kagaku>2025: 15LazarusZenshuuApocalypse HotelTowa no YuugureMoonriseHibi wa Sugiredo Meshi UmashiMomentary LilySorairo UtilityOnmyo Kaiten Re:verseTurkeyBullet/BulletMaebashi WitchesPrincession OrchestraNecronomico no Cosmic Horror ShowSI-VIS: The Sound of Heroes
But is it substantially less than we were getting a decade+ ago because it sure does feel like a lot less
>>285176199>>285176213The ones that I like>ID Invaded>Vivy>Odd Taxi>Lycoris>Akiba Maid>DIY>Ryman's Club>Birdie Wing>Yorukura>Girls band Cry>PON NO MICHI>Hibimeshi>Sorairo Utility>SI-VIS
>>285176199>TL;DR: Reports of the death of original anime have been greatly exaggerated.By your criteria there's 0 this season and 0 the next. Not looking good chief.
>fewerWatch more anime
>anime is shit now because I'm a depressed cunt>btw i don't even look into whats airing
>>285174307Anons called that one garbage when it was airing.
I love anime originals so much, they frequently save the season for me.
I'm the only one who watched this one.
>>285163784Me
