>good animation>good acting>interesting story>but it makes you go :(Does that mean it's bad?
Sex with Carl
>>285190348Story is not interesting as of yet. Death games have been done to death.
>>285192322Everyone's been saying this, but there is much more focus on characters than the death game part. People who are only interested in the death game part won't like it.
>>285192322Death games have been done to death, but I'm not aware of many that feature a protagonist who kills to win. And at least there's still intrigue as to what exactly the death games are.
>>285192488Like almost every death game shit out there, it's about character interactions. I'm giving this a few more episodes to see if they expand on the setting or something. The pilot was good as a standalone story, but I'm not interested in watching the same thing a few more times with a rotating disposable cast.
>>285190348I don't feel like it's too sad so far but there's some good moments in the first episode like Carl killing Kinko. I think the main gripe so far was how the games have been setup like the last one needing only 3 people.
>>285190348It's bad because the death game isn't clearable without mandatory deaths
>>285192926>the death game designed to entertain rich people by getting degenerate gamblers brutally killed isn't fair enough
>>285192488Yeah but the character moments were nothing special in my opinion. Not bad, but it’s hard to care about characters that die so soon after their introduction. So Yuuki will need to become an interesting character for this show to work.
>>285193288There's also a bit of intrigue like why blood turns into freaking cotton and body parts can be reattached so easily. I'm still not sure if future episodes will be good, they will also be normal length.
>>285193418I’ve yet to be intrigued by those curiosities, if I’m honest. But I liked the look of the show, and the soundtrack especially, so I’ll definitely keep watching. It takes a lot for me to drop a show, and this one is far from bad.
>>285192488>but there is much more focus on characters than the death game partBut aren't all the characters other than FeMC just a one-off thing?, I though there's a new cast for each game
I'm a genius!
Oh no!
>>285194225Imagine betting $100k on a girl who survived one death game only for her to be like "ooooh a key lemme just grab this" and die first.
Thanks to the subbers for telegraphing the shit out of this one.
>>285194462not a single thought in that head of hers, should've bet on the lesbians
Why did they cut their hairs? It's not like it weights a lot
>>285195263Kinko, tits, and the lesbian are all beginners who don't think things through. and MC is like an elementary school dropout, so none of them are smart enough to notice that, they were just chopping off whatever they could.
>>285190348>Does that mean it's bad?no, everything you said is good. what makes it bad is the godawful directing that has open contempt for both the story and the premise.
>>285195907Please don't tell me that you read the source material and now you're disappointed because the animated version isn't as good as your imagination.
>>285195979No, the problem i have with the adaptation is that its not good at all. Camera intentionally avoids any "gory" scenes like the amputations, and wastes an absurd amount of time on incredibly pointless directorial masturbation scenes like the intro with the cars.
>>285196039Perhaps I don't speak for everyone, but I'm quite content to not see what it looks like for a girl to be dismembered by saw blades.
>>285196092good news, you wouldn't have seen that either way. Even if they'd animated it properly you would've just seen her explode into white fluff.
>>285196121>you would've just seen her explode into white fluff.Cute
>>285196121Isn't that worse, though? Sounds like it would destroy the tone.
>>285196194considering the current tone is set to "slow and boring" destroying it would be a good thing. The juxtaposition of what're basically girl shaped stuffed animals brutal murdering each other would've been part of the appeal, instead they seem ashamed of the concept despite the fact they're still animating it.
>>285196234I didn't think it was boring at all. Maybe you did if you read the source material and already knew what would happen.
Was Madoka also this frustrating to try to watch through when it was airing and you were following 20 other series and it might not have even been your favorite of the season?
>>285196271If anything i think reading the source would only help enjoy this, because without it you'd have no fucking clue what happened in the saw room with how badly they botched the scene. So many anime viewers walked away with "why did Kinko lose a hand" "why didn't they just not put the cuffs on" "Why didn't Kinko pass they keys to Aoi since she was already free" etc.
>>285196272>opening sequence with banger kalafina track>kajiura OST>wide facesit was kino from frame one
This feels like the fake nun VN in the Bisque doll season 2.>everyone is having long pretentious theatrical conversations>no one behaves like an actual human person>elaborate costumes and backgrounds>cute girls getting killed
>>285196369Well I didn't read the source material and I understood it well enough. They tried not putting the cuffs on, but the levers didn't work until they did. Kinko losing a hand confused me, but I reasoned that she probably sawed her hand off so that she could reach the keys. I'm used to media that doesn't throw all the answers at you.
I'm still pissed off they're skipping over Candle Woods for now to go for Scrap Building.
>>285196039I went in blind but I realized I read part of the LN a while ago and didn't like it. I loved this episode, I really only had problem with the cars.
>>285196588I think saving Candle Woods for the end of the season would make sense, but i'm not sure how they can do that since doing Candle Woods after Golden Bath would be a mistake. Feel like that's what they're gonna do though.
>>285196470>t I reasoned that she probably sawed her hand offyou're right she did it to reach the keys, but she used the lever mechanism, not the saw. If she'd waited for the saw she wouldn't have time to actually use the key afterwards. >I'm used to media that doesn't throw all the answers at you.that's a cute response and all, but there's no reason to take pride in a show being needlessly obtuse, its just pretentious. The scene wasn't supposed to be confusing, the director just added that in.
>>285196840It's fine. Saws are in play, a girl is chained to a wall, and then she has no hand. It's not like there are many mysteries there. Sometimes things are better if they're left to your imagination.
Which costumes will be next arc?
The director did Gimai Seikatsu before this. I haven't seen it yet, but I’ve heard good things about its directing, so I'll check it out in between episodes.
>>285196369Different anon. I thought it was perfectly fine and easy to follow. They actually show Kinko’s stump when she’s unlocking her hand. And given the narration from Carl it’s obvious why there wouldn’t be enough time after they first fought for the keys and then someone had to unlock them one handed. Doing it this way was able to put the climax of the drama on the moment she grabs the keys.
I still have to set aside a special time to watch this so I don't have to explain to anyone that I'm watching a cartoon about suffering and dying little girls, but I don't even get any titillating gore for the trouble? Never mind any Gantz comparisons, fucking Dress-up Darling goes harder than this when the scene calls for it. Is this for girls? It has to be for edgy spooky girls who want to watch a high-stakes game anime but would find on-screen blood icky.
>>285196412I really liked the whole VN segment.
>>285197245Pretty clearly it seems set up as emotional suffering porn rather than gore porn. Fear and guilt. People are watching this, after all.
>>285196588>>285196798>>285197027Anime Only here. Don't they now jump to her as a newbie(I presume) and show the bunny girls and the girl with the Big Fluffy hair she's talking to in her head?
>>285197417What, on youtube? Even for educational purposes if you show real people dying they'll demonetize you even if you blur out everything and replace all the gunshots with duck noises. I'm sure somebody is going to report you to the police for some kind of homicide even if you have the technology to instantly turn blood into flowers or whatever. Are they going to build out a world where this kind of game is perfectly acceptable and sanctioned like Hunger Games? That's gay
>>285197549uhhh
>>285197708censors still fuck you in the ass in this deranged world we already live in
>>285197439No, they're skipping that entire game to do the one after that in the LN. That was her 9th in the LN, they're adapting her 10th instead.
>>285196092>I'm quite content to not see what it looks like for a girl to be dismembered by saw blades.Go back.
>>285198287I've seen a lot of brutal anime, from Elfen Lied to Made in Abyss, but I can still confidently say that I'm not fond of the imagery of a girl screaming in fear and pain as she's slowly hacked apart. If that makes me less of a weeb in your eyes, then maybe being a weeb is just a bad thing to you.
>>285197027>they're done with the big poofy dressesA shame.
I think instead of girls competing to see who dies, it should be girls having sex to see who can orgasm last. If you orgasm first you get taken to the room to please the sponsors.
I was pissed the MC killed Kinko instead of the pink bimbo or her butch, both of them deserve to die for conspiring and playing unfair.
>>285198408Carl probably couldn't take them 2 on 1.
>>285198408Not only would it be incredibly difficult to kill them while a few feet away and hopping on one leg, it would also be morally dubious to kill anyone but the absolute easiest target. If you inject your personal beliefs into it, it becomes easier to say that it's your decision. Maybe that's how someone experienced in death games would think.
>>285198408LN explanation is that she has a rule that if she has to kill, it will be the nearest person. Then some retarded spiel about adhering to rules.
>>285198408>>285198562Titcows are evil. Carl fucked it up.
>>285198408It was messed up how Carl killed Kinko but it was the smartest thing to do. Kinko is the most injured and fighting either Momono or Beniya is unpredictable. One of them could fly off the handle since they were kinda close
>>285198495>incredibly difficult to kill themI'd fight an army one-legged if it means giving Kinko a bright future
>>285198341It makes you a FAGGOT!
How yuri does this get
Death game shit always makes my eyes glaze.
>>285190348Damned atmospheric. Not sure it's good, but sure was immersive.
>>285192981Yes, turning Saw into Battle Royale is bad.
Has a death game ever been historically documented?
>>285198408The sex they must have had right afterward must've been incredible though
>>285200071
>>285200100I can see Yuki being a necrophiliac with an amputee kink
>>285192488>MY death game story actually focuses heavily on the characters, unlike everyone else' death game stories!
>>285190348Making you feel something is a good thing.
I could have saved Kinko
>>285196039Go back to your text, audio visual is the superior medium.
>>285196412>>285196840>pretentiousHe said the word, anons.
>3 best girls died>3 worst girls survivedIf every game ends up like that one I'm gonna be pissed
>>285196369>why didn't they just not put the cuffs on"Really? Lol
>>285192488kekaroo
>>285196092Why would you watch a death game show
>>285190348>good animationReally? With Deen?
>>285201838>Skip/censor everything that deserves the "good animation">Still shots everywhere>Make it overly artsyEven deen can work with that.
>>285190348>doesn't explain basic rules of the game, gets others killed in looney tunes like ways>waits minutes doing nothing to stop the saws before thinking that maybe the KEYS she has can UNLOCK the shackles and blames the others fighting for the keys 2 secondssasuga, how did she survive that game let alone 28 of them with 70% survival rate even?
>>285202090To be fair, the other characters doesn't think at all.
>>285202090I just skimmed the manga and the flashback shows she's actually a retard whose only at fightingI guess that explains her dumb actions
>>285202118I'm just blaming the writing which contradicts the premises it set up, no way such a retard could survive 28 times because of her "rules" if she botched this one so badlyThe keys one was exceptionally bad because it stressed how the conflict for the keys was the issue when it clearly wasn't kek>>285202177It absolutely explains her actions but it becomes even more egregious that she survived all these times despite of thatIt's entertaining so I will see where it goes but it's definitely dishonest
>>285196369>because without it you'd have no fucking clue what happened in the saw roomOh so now I understand why people didn't like it. They're used to everything being explained as if the viewers are retarded like in 95% of anime.
>>285196369Any idea where to find the raw LN?
>>285202386>conveniently ignores the post right above his
Infinitely worse than MGRP in all aspects
>>285197027This gets me hyped.
>>285197027Does Airi cut her hair or it grows longer?
>>285190348The story is dogshit.This should just have been a surreal maid atmospheric SoL. Hell have overexaggerated death scenes too if you want but make it just wacky symbolism for when a maid accidently drops a vase.
>>285204068>The story should have been completely different because the characters wore maid outfits onceA new level of brainlet
What will be will be >>>>>>> It is what it is
>>285205345Shikata ga nai
>>285197027Just watch the next episode preview https://youtu.be/dBsZdhIT5fA
>>285192533>protagonist who kills to winBut that's usually the main plot of these kind of stories. The shades of gray, the ambivalence.The only novelty I see here is that everyone are cute, young girls.
>>285194462I mean her dead was totally random. She could have grabbed the key while sitting, or from another angle. Whoever was behind could have died. Sure she died by her own fault but that was just luck not encoded into the game itself. An asspull from the author.
The last game only said 3 people but didn't say anything abiut it opening only once. Taking a girl back to the last room would have been, at the very least, a better first attempt rather than killing her on the spot. Do it after trying the simple solution first.Do all games have such a borish puzzle anyway? "N amount of people can move on, kill the rest"? I would fire the designer.Also, they should have tried removing all their clothes on the elevator to reduce weight. Just saying.
>>285207242>Also, they should have tried removing all their clothes on the elevator to reduce weight. Just saying.we can't have nudity in such a christian anime
>>285190348>Does that mean it's bad?It's yurislop
Pink Tits made itSo I say the correct choices were made
>>285190348>good animation
>>285207550gotta love how the framed pictures have more detail than the characters that we're watching the show for. only art students with their silly "media literacy" posts think this is great.
>>285207495Red dyke shouldn't have survived over blue cutie.
>>285207637Media literacy is not related to what the backgrounds look like, are you retarded? You are complaining about two different things acting like they're the same
>>285207973it's related to the kind of people that like that kind of scene at all. only they throw that term around, no normal anon says story related stuff that way.
>>285207967blue deserved to die the most
>>285207637At first I also dismissed the tone of the show but then I realised that it's meant to be a pov of the yuki girl. She doesn't care about the specific girls but takes great heed at the surroundings, that's why the contrast is so stark
>>285208213i applaud you for making up the best excuse for the director's pretentious masturbation. he gets off and is saving production cost while you think it's deep.
>>285207967yeah but pink had fat cow tits and thighsnot to mention the short cut dress that showed them off
>>285207550>>285207637They are like puppets on a string, or characters on a stage for an opera/theater-performance. And WE are the audience.
>>285208544sasuga
so for the LN readersthere's an actual plot reason why the players blood turns into cotton?
>>285208544Puppets faces don't disappear in some scenes.
>>285208732It was said in anime.
>>285208383the whole approach to emotions, death and the game itself is detachment and routine. even if it wasn't intentional it's fitting
>>285193418It was explained in the manga in the first chapter, I'm assuming they kept it out of the premiere so it doesn't break up the atmosphere with infodump.When they're knocked out and dressed up they're also fed a cocktail of chemicals. there's something in their blood that reacts to air that expands into that cotton shit and acts to stop the bleeding, and even their bodies won't decompose when they die. How it's removed and if there's long lasting effects if you go through multiple games like MC? I don't know I just read the first chapter to compare it to the anime.
>>285208827whatever you say bro
>>285208383He could do that or take opm way, I prefer at least some effort to no effort.
>>285207550Looks good.
>>285209029well, one is a disaster because of bad planning and not enough time (allegedly) while the other is intended to be this way.imagine if Passione and any of their past directors would've made this.
>>285190348>ctrl+f>no one mentioned shaft or monogatariIs it just me that was instantly reminded of that style when I watched it?
>>285209375shaft is kino this isn't.
>>285209375I thought more of Kyoto Animation because it reminded me of Bayoretto.
>>285198562Yeah, her rule from the novels. >Yuki hadn’t targeted Kinko because she was easy to kill. Nor was it because Kinko had mentioned wanting to die or because Yuki had harbored a special hatred for her. Yuki had chosen her because she was physically the closest. Whenever it became necessary to kill someone during a game, Yuki always chose the person who was nearest to her at the time. That was what she had decided. She’d established this rule to reduce, by however amount, her hesitation at taking another’s life. Rules granted her strength. And in this case, they’d given her the courage to kill with her own hands someone she had saved, someone to whom she had offered words of encouragement.
>>285196369>>285196840I really don't want to be mean but none of these were hard to understand or infer at all, I don't know if it's attention spans, new generation or whatever, but just pay attention and enjoy the show, it's really not that deepI agree with this anon >>285202386 honestly it would've been way more annoying if they had to slow everything down and tell us what the characters were thinking all the damn time, but maybe that's why a lot of them do it, otherwise you'll have confused retards criticizing the show
>>285208901>additional "gotcha" subversion moment at the very end to "justify" that 50% died>even if nothing says that the deaths MUST be 30% because it does not invalidate nor sway the definition AVERAGE this shit is not only dishonest but extremely dumb
>>285209375With some stuff with regards to the atmosphere perhaps, but Shaft's style used in stuff like Monogatari didn't lead to consistently boring use of the character art like it did here.
Psycho killer.
>>285209375This is shaft at home but the artsy stuff doesn't look as good
>>285210042Zeta...
>>285210042psycho sex with Carl
>>285210042Qu'est-ce que c'est?
>>285210594fa-fa-fa-fa fa-fa-fa-fa-fa
I dont think it will happen but if they continue doing 40min episodes at this quality this will go in my top 5 anime of all time.
>>285210714It's 11 episodes, they used 12th episode budget for 40 minute 1st episode.
I liked the first episode but the appeal of death games is the characters/circumstances behind it. If every game plays out like the first then I don't see how it's any different from the viewer being one of the sick oji-sans making them do it in the first place.
>>285210920>I don't see how it's any different from the viewer being one of the sick oji-sans making them do it in the first place.anon-kun...
mangaonly here, why Carl?
>>285211474Because her name isn't Yuki >>285141731
>>285211525kekbut her game name IS Yuki, isn't it?is there a raw somewhere i could check?
>>285210920Sick ojisan here, I wish I had the money to preorder their cotton stuffed bodies.
>>285211558Person was annoyed at Yuuki vs Yuki, its Yuki in stuff like the LN translations.
>>285211558It's Yuuki. Thank the Japs for deciding on a romanization that makes no difference between ゆき and ゆうき
>>285210920>>285211595What happens to their bodies after? Cause I want dibs on this one
>>285211599>>285211616got it, i just checked cause i thought it would be 雪 or something, but it's actually 友樹, which is "friend" and "tree", but written in some alternative character i thinksad, cause "snow" is cuter imo
>>285211648Why do you think cute ones get more money? It's because they are all bidding on their stuffed bodies. If the girl dies, the body goes to the highest bidder, if she survives, she gets the money.
>>285211694also her surname 反町 means "anti-" and "town" which is kinda funny
>>285211525I started reading the LN and her name is 幽鬼
Why was only Kinka cut in half?
>>285211878well in the manga she still has a leg...
>>285211999I like how peaceful the anime did it.
>>285211616In the first place why are their names all written in katakana when they're not foreigners?
>>285212224where do you see katakana ?
>>285212291Every character has their name in kanji then written in katakana instead of hiragana.https://shiboyugi-anime.com/chara/sb/
>>285209437I know it isn't, but can you elaborate why Shaft's was?
>>285211764Raws? Where'd you find them?
>>285212376Yes in japanese they're on annas archive
>>285212336i guess it's a stylistic choice or something, like when you look at >>285211999, every furigana is written in hiragana, instead of yuuki's name. when you look at the page you posted, they could've written something like 選手の名前 but they chose to write "player's name" in kana for some reason. some rule of cool maybe?it's like when some onomatopeia are written in hiragana and some are done in katakana to add roughness or convey a different emotionbut maybe it means something here, i dunno, i'm not good with japanese
>>285212357it never felt boring or out of place. they walked that fine line perfectly.
>>285206943The author in the novels described there being a visible trap string.
Are there beheadings in this?
>>285214374Main problem of this shitty adaptation, is that you have to look into book or manga to find out wtf happened.
>Stop the game, I'll adopt KinkoWhy didn't any of the ojiisans watching step up?
>>285215955They want cute girls BUTCHERED.
>>285214560I have mixed feelings on the style, but yeah it does feel like important details are being sidelined in favor of a slower pace to build the atmosphere the anime team was looking for.
>>285215955thanks to the treatment her body doesn't rot and she's mostly intact...one of them definitely bought her as an onahole
I still can't over how casually they're like "oh yeah your blood is cotton now"That's so fundamentally future tech that it should be a radically different society they live in, but it's just used so cute girls don't show blood on TV death games
>>285217499prbly a rich people only treatment, so they would vaguely know it exists. they also likely got informed about what they're doing to their bodies to take part in those games.capitalism has apparently reached a stage where death games are fine, so that tech wouldn't really change society radically.
>>285202090Anime made it weird. They had to put shackles on themselves on their own. Which gave them plenty of time to explore and check shit including finding out keyholes on shackles.In manga shackles came down after they pulled the lever. Right after that saws started making noise. So it actually made her look super composed in carefully checking surroundings and shackles rather than panicking about the active saws.
well honestly it has some real holes but if they manage to keep it up and minimize shock value death aspect, then this can be good. trying to make us care about Kinko was right move considering how anticlimactic her death is. yeah i somehow managed to get attached to her anyway so it worked on me.
>>285208732Yep, they're pumped full of chemicals that makes their blood turn into cotton when it hits air, and also makes their corpses not rot. it's actually joked in one of the novels that MC gets squeamish when she sees stuffing pop out of an old mattress because it makes her think of dead bodies. >>285208765not really, the anime just said "preservation treatment" and didn't explain it because it was more important to quietly pause for 45 seconds than explain things.
Really enjoyed this first episode, I decided to check the manga to see if the art was also this good and jesus christ the atmosphere is completely different, a lot more sloppy in my opinion and closer to what I would expect from a death game series (derogative), I guess the only advantage is that they mad everything a lot less confusing, there's a lot more explaining and stuff, but the tension was also non-existent and a lot more goofy
>>285209756>I really don't want to be mean but none of these were hard to understand or infer at all, I don't know if it's attention spans, new generation or whatever, but just pay attention and enjoy the show, it's really not that deepI mean, i read the source material so its not like i was confused by what happened, but even i could tell they did a bad job with the scene. you guys are way too eager to apologize for shoddy directing because you think its "deep".
>>285211616>Thank the Japs for deciding on a romanization that makes no difference between ゆき and ゆうきI won't. we have every ability to reject their bad romanization, but people let them get away with it instead of saying "no that's dumb".
>>285217499>but it's just used so cute girls don't show blood on TV death gamesfun fact, the death games are still illegal black market. they made a super fantasy treatment to censor blood in black market snuff films.
>>285215955her getting picked up that easily would definitely convince me. so fragile.
>>285218452Preservation treatment is quite enough explanation, it's just faster than your natural blood coagulation.
>>285217499I assumed they were inside a video game.Building a bunch of trap filled escape rooms and then maintaining them would be costly as fuck in reality.
>>285218491I much prefer the atmosphere of the anime and leaving a lot of things vague, but Kinko's missing hand is something I agree they fumbled, they barely touched on the fact that pushing the lever made the shackles tighten and the way they ended the game didn't made it clear why kinko would felt so guilty about aoi, in fact at first I thought it was the other girl who was apologizing for prioritizing the cowtits
>>285218704they save money by only paying the survivors like $20k a game.
>>285218704Perfect for billionaires with way too much money
>>285218332>yeah i somehow managed to get attached to her anyway so it worked on me.I might be weak but I literally had to pause and take a break to calm down after the saw room scene. I was feeling the unease build up from the moment black hair died.
>>285214374Just adding a white line shining a little would have done wonders.
>>285218486The atmosphere of the anime does a fair bit of good, though the main flaw is that the decision to sanitize elements was made independent of the overall atmosphere of the anime.
>All girl cast.Garbage.
>>285219397its not actually. The death games are all girls because nobody wants to see boys get murdered, but there's at least one male character who is moderately important later on. He helps MC with her fingering, if you catch my drift.
>>285219456my instinct is to disagree with you but then again I have not actually seen a sexually gratifying video of a male twink getting murdered
>>285218486I also went to check the manga after watching the episode, and boy did i enjoyed it a lot more. The art is really cute and the vibe is a lot more goofy, which suits what is basically cute girls dying and killing each other. Like you cannot expect me to take seriously the character of Carl when her goal is to autistically win 99 games. The direction feels pretentious because doesnt fit the setting. Like bro, no matter the explanation, this is still a series with bunch of cute girls running around in towels and swimsuits. They should have leaned towards a more cutesy style, than this artsy one. Hopefully they will deliver in the fanservice aspect in the next arcs, but i doubt it.
>>285212449Basically, everyone uses kanji.I think the organizers have a unified image for these as code names.However, Japanese kanji have multiple readings, which can be confusing even for native speakers.Essentially, I believe katakana is used intentionally because it represents the pronunciation.Hiragana has a gentle image and conveys the original name's feel, so I suspect it's intentionally labeled as “the code name's reading.”You're not wrong to perceive it as cold and calculating.Personally, I think using <<>> gives off a cool yet tacky vibe.People who like this sort of thing are sometimes called “chuni-byo,” you know.
>>285219640Really? It was the opposite for me. I enjoyed the anime more though the manga was clearer when it came to explaining things. The one thing that was worse than the manga was the first death. The anime:>eating scene, talk about why the food was safe>Did the long search>Then they went back and she beelined to the plate because muh blind spotThe manga:>started with the search>go back to first room. they did the whole talk about why the food was safe while eating>then while everyone was eating she thought about the blindspot and lifted up the plateThe flow was a lot more natural in the manga.I do wonder what it's like in the novel, but I really enjoy the atmosphere of the anime. The car shit was unnecessarily artsy but it was 2 minutes tops in a premiere episode meant to capture your attention so whatever.
>>285219640The direction is like that because Deen finally got a director who can work under their resources limitations while still making something look unique and appealing.
>>285219640Wow, you're really like the ojisans watching the girls. This story truly is deep.
>>285219711Personally, I also get the impression that the <<>> symbols are frequently used in works that are “Gothic, Decadent, and Yuri.”<<Maybe they're common in battle manga too?>>This is because the Japanese “「」 ()" symbols are commonly seen and therefore ordinary.
>>285220364Yeah, I see <<>> in battle webnovels that have chuuni magic/combat systems
>>285220364Using「」makes you much cooler than using <<>>.
What was going on in Kinko's head before Yuki caned her? She looks so content it's making me jealous.
>>285220673>fuck, she's hot from down here
>>285220673>The last thing to go through Kinko's head... aside from that cane... was thinking "man Yuki could've at least bought me a drink before she FUCKED me".
>>285219992Is just that the anime, in order to to set up a more serious atmosphere, missed a lot of character interaction and carl's inner monologues, which is the series strongest point imo. For example, this first episode made Carl look like the typical inexpressive and one note character, while in the manga she is more expressive and is more fun to follow. Maybe in the books she is different and thats what the anime is showing tho.>>285220116just because im old, fat and ugly and want to peropero carl's thighs in a maid outfit doesnt mean the story is that serious.
Does the LN ever mention if there actually was a way to pass the last one without murdering somehow? I know it's a death game for entertainment but having the first trap be a simple trip wire and then the next rooms possible to pass if they cooperated from the beginning only to end in a straight forward "3 people must be dead to clear" seems a bit boring. It's pretty much setup to be murderhoboing is the best and easiest choice, because if everyone but MC died in the water room she could've just exited unimpeded. Surely there's other games where x amount of players are needed to complete a puzzle to discourage that right?
I personally loved the atmosphere/immersiveness of the episode. In my opinion, it was this episode's strongest element; alongside Kinko obviously.I also liked Carl.
>>285195907>>285196039this 100%. Direction is so goddamn slow and leeches any excitment out of something that's naturally very exciting>20s shot of cars>10s shot of MC waking up and picking up the phone>meanwhile the whole house being set on fire is mentioned in a 2s flashbackNo idea why they tried to go artsy with a fucking DEATH GAME. This is the opposite of artsy, dath games are titillating slop which is why everyone loves it so much. People injuries turned into fucking cotton candy, this is the most farcical death game in existence and the director is trying to make a SHAFT production.I've read almost every death game manga in existence and this was such a huge disappointment
>>285207967thisshe's the ugliest of the bunch
>>285207967She probably had the least bid anyway, Pink, on the other hand...
>>285220617Shut up Kumagawa
>>285221620The LN makes it clear that there wasn't a way to clear the third game without someone dying. The entire purpose of the scene was to show that Carl would kill someone like Kinko without a second thought the moment it became necessary, and I'm guessing the author didn't want to get wrap up any more in solving it and just wanted to make the point explicitly clear.
>>285219992The anime version works better for the anime imo. We get very little time with Yuki in this format so its important they use every bit of time to expand on her character. If she had even the slightest bit of urgency warning red she might have lived. If she had moved a little faster blue wouldn't have gotten fluffed. She's good at self preservation but she is a pretty incompetent leader even though she uses this leadership role as a coping method. The inner dialogue at the end of the episode hits better this way. Also, the VA did a great job now that I think about it.
>>285223617「I decline」
if Carl eats shrimp she'll vomit through her ears
>>285220075I didn't know it was a Deen show, it doesn't feel cheap at all. I tried watching Ooku by Deen, that show is so fucking flat and boring.
For the next stage of the death game, Carl must have sex with every anon in this thread... or else she will DIE
Why not put the highest bidding ojisan in the death game?
>>285224501Would their hymen regenerate if it got torn in a game?
>>285198562Putting down to a simple rule instead of trying to make a moral decision lets her make that snap decision faster, and also helps to emotionally detach herself from what she has to do.
>>285221620In the manga it's specified that since any number of girls could be killed at any point in the game, the puzzles can be modified to accommodate any number of players. For example with the buzzsaw game there's six sections even though there's only five girls at that point.
>>285223742She also should've noticed that pink and red were getting real chummy and predicted that they might play favorites if push came to shove.
>>285198562>she has a rule that if she has to kill, it will be the nearest person. Then some retarded spiel about adhering to rules.Sounds to me like she's a coward who can only kill by surprise
>>285226154She's a hypocritical nihilist with no purpose in life that cope about her decisions being logical to not deal with the consequences
>>285226154i mean, her goal is to win a 70% survival game 99 times in a row. she's probably not bothered if you think her tactics are "cowardly" she's in it for the marathon, not the sprint.
It's too overblown for my tastes. The keys being boobie trapped is fine. The bond villain tier rotating saw flooding handcuff infighting room is too much. I would rather rewatch MSIK in preparation for Restart.
>>285210648Far betterRUN RUN RUN RUN AWAAAAY
>>285219320>so much foamWelcome back Foamstars
I can already tell the show will be fun to discuss if it'll involve people's wicked rationale for their actions like Carl's. The fact that there's already so many people debating whether it's cope or not and if it is, does it actually work well is already nice to see
Oh god. This is horrible. What has this fake shaft animator fucking done to the source material.
>>285230449I really hope he was just caught unawares by the doublel lelngth episode.
>>285230762>doublel lelngthit's time to stop drinking
>>285230941It was fully intentional. I hate this double/triple length first and/or final episode meme.
>>285231057oh i see, cleverhow about a double length episode of sex games with Carl?https://litter.catbox.moe/c52vzt.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/a6nqiq.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/y23qyg.jpg
>>285221841The slowness of it builds the tension. Works for some doesn't for other but it's obviously about creating the atmosphere of uncertainty. No matter how careful and how slow you go, expecting death behind every corner has to be terrifying. Then it gets into your head that maybe traps can be made so the slow approach ends up being deadly instead.
Remind me to enable autocrop in mpv so I can watch next episode in ultrawide, since this show clearly doesn't veer outside the black border ever
>>285231869>removing the kinobarsdeath game yourself
>>285231925Peasant bars are for people that don't have an ultrawide monitor and a dark room
>>285225584She did notice tho
>>285225584She gave out instructions, they didn't followThe only way everybody was gonna live with that key check is if they passed it around in a circle in an orderly fashionPlease understand
you now remember that pinky went to take a dump or piss
>>285232399She only said she was going to place the keys in the middle and that they could be used to unlock the locks. She didn't tell them to calm down and do it one at a time until they had already panicked and started fighting over the key. She also should've expected that they would all panic given they're all complete beginners.
>>285232429How do you even go take a piss when your body has been dehydrated and replaced with fluff
>>285232429Where's the toilet cam
>>285232429There could've been a trap there...
>>285232449Sounds like a skill issue
>>285232502i assume saliva works otherwise the macarons would be hard to eat, so other fluids might too
>>285232502>and replaced with fluffIts not replaced with fluff, it turns in to fluff when it makes contact with the air
>>285232667>starts to pee>it turns into fluff and blocks further peeingpain
>>285232537sudden spiky dildo!
>>285232667That's somehow even more retarded
>>285232692hotbut also utter nonsense
>>285232667Given the audience of the death game I wouldn't be surprised if they somehow made an exception for urine. That said the toilet scene isn't in the manga or the LN.
>>285233046>That said the toilet scene isn't in the manga or the LNso it is the director's fetish because it sure didn't add any character growth.
>>285233106It showed the deepening bond between Beniya and Momono, foreshadowing Beniya playing favorites with her later. In the manga and ln there actually isn't that much shown of the two of them becoming close.
>>285233144i would be rich if i had a coin for every time that someone defended the director's bad decision with "no, it's actually deep"
isn't Carl filthy rich now? she isn't doing it to put food on the table. I can assume that he would have enough money for whole life after 10 games.
>>285233201It's not a bad decision though, its a classic show don't tell.
>>285233294they did cling to each other for the whole time before that and tall red maid comforted her plenty. it was already obvious and not needed. there can be too much showing so much so that it's on the nose, especially if it's just to insert some fetish.
>>285233347Yeah but that could just be because pink was obviously scared so she was comforting her. That she trusted red to escort her to the bathroom separately showed a specific bond of trust developing between them apart from everyone else. Also if it really was a fetish thing it would've shown Momono actually sitting down on the toilet.
>>285233404>it would've shown Momono actually sitting down on the toilet.he should've actually done that, need more fanservice.
>>285195263In the LN they specifically mention that hair doesn't weight much so cutting it wouldn't help a lot, but they still wind up cutting some off to squeak under the weight limit. Honestly not cutting it in the anime was to just keep the character designs consistent.
Yuki pervs out over pink's thighs a lotin the LN
>>285233106>director's fetishYou're unironically porn brained
>>285233718you got me
>>285190348Those are not the reasons why it's bad. The story is absolute garbage.
>>285233783Isn't this story a kino-no-tabi-like, except it's about death games?
>>285190348>interesting storyI get wanting to watch for Yuuki, I myself am a sucker for white/grey haired girls even if the gore is on the weak side.But why does anyone think the story is interesting so far?
neko.
>>285234523the sex
behold Chibi Carl
>>285232429>>285232667>>285232692>>285232923It could be reacting with the blood cells or perhaps platelets rather than just fluid in general.
>>285221841I much prefer the anime’s tone over exciting dismemberment action.
First episode was very sad and depressing. I read the first few manga chapters and its just as bad. I can deal with gore and slaughter if its men or 3dpd, but not cute anime girls
>>285194225>>285194442I think I earned a layer lower in hell for how hard I laughed at this
>>285236537You're a weak man that doesn't deserve cuteness.
>>285236940I know ;_;
>death gamelook inside>battle royale
>>285233847The part at the end when we realize Kinko is about to get brutalized, I thought that was pretty good.
>>285237494>One girl murdered to death >Battle royaleI don't think you watched the same anime
>>285237719Candle Woods is definitely Battle Royale.
>>285190348>0 gore with a plot reason why there can never be any>garbage traps (only 3 people can leave XDD)>characters change every week and the only one you stay with is as boring as they come I'll respect the 3 episode rule but I'm not that invested right now
>>285237867>Candle Woods is definitely Battle Royale.Hardly, unless your definition is so loose its meaningless. And what'd be the problem anyway, a Battle Royale is a death game
The limbs being reattached I can buy but how the fuck did they stick their hair back on?
>>285238494don't think about it too hard, the setting makes 0 sensejust enjoy the murder games
>>285194442Her death was actually just awful, there's no blood and you don't see the spike until later so you don't even know what happend but you also don't know about the cotton thing yet so she just collapses to the ground for no reason from the viewer POV.
>>285238666It does a good job of putting you in the shoes of the other girls.
>>285238330Its honestly more unsettling with there being no gore. The elevator was great until that 3-person limit shit though.
>>285239291I'm not totally against the cotton shit but they didn't even show us the aftermath of the blue girl getting sawed or cotton coming out of the first girls head. It feels stupid to write censorship into the story and then censor it even harder.
>>285238666We're getting a lot of mileage out of >>285202386 today.
>>285239358That's more of a Japanese TV problem than a story problem
>>285239358It seems to have restrictions for whatever reason, thus a show about sexy outfits and gore is going to have problems with actually showing sexy outfits and gore.
>>285241166Even with the originals they had to compromise by making the gore all fluffy, but you can't even show that correctly. The real problem is the fetishized cosplay outfits. They need to show the girls in their full glory and I fear they'll be toned down for the anime.
>>285235562What happened to her in vol 7?
>>285242282she prbly became infinitely stronger by cutting her hair for good
>>285228466>>285203348Are you basing this off the manga/LN or are you just Ranyi posting? MGRP and this are nothing alike besides girls dying. If anything Manosaba seems like a more plausible influence with Yuki.
>>285231392the cum should also be cotton.
>>285243794It should've been the opposite. Everything should have exploded into cum instead of cotton
>multiple scenes to emotionally manipulate you into liking the blonde girl and make redhead and titcow look bad>mc betrays and kills her>this just to set up the premise of her being autistic about following her rulesdishonest storytelling
>>285247092This would be a more reasonable take if Yuuki didn't do it in chapter 1.
>>285247092Kinko can emotionally manipulate me as much as she wants
>>285247369he meant the author, retard
>>285247408Did I stutter?
>>285247092Biggest hint that she's going to die : She's voiced by famous seiyuu while MC and the rest of the cast are newbie.
>>285247092more emotionally honest than having carl have all that spiel about how she only helps people if it helps her and you shouldn't trust her because she may be secretly evil but not having her put down the invalid without a second thought the moment it becomes more of a burden to keep her alive
>>285247092What the hell is dishonest storytelling? That's just storytelling.
>>285247092Its more like by creating an arbitrary rule like that she can act quickly and detach herself from what she does. Practically everything she's been doing has been her trying to detach herself.>don't grieve people in the game because if you can't grieve everyone equally, you'll feel guilty which will weaken you mentally>its better to be altruistic not out of any sense of camaraderie, but because it can help you in future games>if you have to kill someone, instead of agonizing over who it's okay to kill just go for the closest personAnd hey, at least Kinko's death was quick and probably relatively painless.
Sorry you guys don't like it. This anime was made literally only for me, I watched the episode twice.
>>285247092Did people actually feel emotional about kinko (or even aoi for that matter)? She just came across as a retard to me so I really didn't care when she died.
The problem is a good death game needs at least one (1) of the following things to be entertaining >A long running cast of thought out characters that people feel sad/happy for when they are killed>Well thought out traps that the audience can imagine/guess how they'd solve if they were in that situation>Gory kills Unfortunately this show swaps out any of these for 2 minutes of cars and long pauses
I don't care, I wanna see Hakushi
>>285249558Not really Aoi, but it was kinda amusing how methodical Carl acted when the other two died. Just walking over and grabbing the leftover spike and of course what happened at the end.
>>285242282>>285242980FUCK YOU NISIO, YOU CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>>285249558I wasn't tearing up or anything. But there was a nice sense of melancholy in the moment as soon as she dropped her and I knew what was coming.
>>285249607>2 minutes of carsI REALLY like that opening. Presumably it's depicting a suicide overpass.
>>285249743It'll be Carl's 99th game. Death Race.
> All the cute girls will die horribly until the MC with plot armor or the girl she falls in love with survives at the end .Who the heck supposed to watch this? Only a psychopath would enjoy series like this.
>>285249783Guess this show will be infamous for cars and Carl
>Can't show any gore whatsoever>Whole game coming up where the gory kills are plot relevantWhy didn't they just get a different time slot or something
>>285192488just like squid games
>>285249325i still don't get how Carl did it. crushing windpipe isn't painless and quick at all. severing arterie wouldn't be quick either and she wouldn't bleed out. did she nail her forehead?
>>285192488But the characters were shit, maybe they get better but the pilot should have some of the best on offer if it's going to pull people in>Nervous big tits girl with pink hair trope that's been a thing since the 2000s >Short hair onee san>Twintail tsundere that actually has a rough homelife another trope from the 2000s >Girl that gets insta killed so has 0 personality>blue shy girl whos only character trait is being meek >Emotionless autistic MC with white hair once again another trope
>>285250035The anime fucked up so badly that people keep referring to Momono by her tit size instead of her perfect creamy thighs
>>285250035Another reason why skipping Candle Woods for now is a mistake.
Carl meets a bunny girlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgkHvF_CKro
>>285208544>>285208644i hate this bitch so much
>>285250262I read ahead and that didn't really impress me much either >Murder loli>Murder hobo>Master who is supposedly so smart and driven but just gives up on the games in a lame twist >bunch of noobs who start ticking one of the other team for totally not fetish reasons >Cringe 'I will inherit my master's will'If the bunny suits don't make your dick hard is there even anything positive about that story
>>285250371Ca as in Cacodemon, rl as in incorporeal
>>285209375You missed the very first thread retardbro
>>285209375It's like a monkey trying to emulate shaft without understanding shaft
>>285250035It's not a complicated show, yet you still had half of the character tropes wrong
>>285247647But she wasn't evil, all she wants is to complete the game and she did promise to keep as many girls alive as possible, the game just said one more person needed to die to complete it and she went with it
>>285251919a lesser story would have her say all that but still go out of her way to save yellow because she is le good person
There were four judges for the light novel award.Two of them gave the highest score, while the other two gave the lowest.https://mfbunkoj.jp/rookie/award/result/18/
>>285252411Personally, I think the first two judges gave the author a fairly positive evaluation. The author of NGNL didn’t say it outright, but mentioned that “as long as a work makes someone happy, that’s enough.” The author of Henta-Ouji also spoke favorably, expressing that they hoped the author would continue working in this style.The other two judges, on the other hand, were more critical, commenting that the overall level of completion for this award was pretty low.
>>285249558Aoi not so much but Kinko's death kinda pissed me off along making me sad. started liking her, thought she was surviving and she got offed in split second.
>>285249993In the anime it looks like she pierced her skull with her cane. In the LN she uses it to break her neck, while in the manga she stabs her throat with the katana she used in the amputation game. It's also mentioned a lot in the LN how tiny and fragile Kinko's body is, and with that plus her being dehydrated from the sauna it took very little force to break her body.
>>285252242She never said she was a good person.
>>285253444But that's the thing, MCs are so often idealized heroes or literal self-inserts that it's rare for the amoral pragmatist character to actually follow through on their threats to act in their own self-interest in defiance of the greater good. More often than not heinous acts taken by main characters are reflections of the authors own condemnable views of what is right and just
>>285243557Yeah MSIK arc 1 is kinda not (if you ignore how 1 girl is guaranteed to die every week) but arcs 2, 3 and 4 all effectively are.
>>285249853>Only a psychopath would enjoy series like this.That's me!
>>285253772Not really, there are many times when the protagonist heinous acts doesn't reflect the author's moral compass.
>>285249853It's like saying only slashers enjoy playing dynasty warrior musou games.
