stop liking evil men
>>285216956Femeine penis? Or big pp?
>>285216984neither
>>285216984soul penis
Will I like this if I like Narita's other works? Is it more for Fatefags or Naritafags, or both?
>>285217230Fatefags cause Naritafags get angry that he won't finish Baccano because of this
If I were a DA id just use my vampire powers to kill everyone myself night 1.
why are you spoiling it? I didn't know this was actually a man. Why are you like this? The anime barely aired
>>285216956Old man pussy. I want to fuck him while his servant form watches
>>285216956No prob, my heart already belongs to the braids.
Sex with holy women.
>>285217443>DAFate has dead apostle now?
>>285216956Stop liking evil women.
>>285218001They always existed in fate worlds
>>285217774i'd let him hit no homo
>>285218001The swift answer is "Strange Fake is an exception". Yes, it has everything.The specific and long answer is that DAs are in both but Fate doesn't have Ancestors, just lower power vampires. But Ancestors do exist in Strange Fake because, again, Strange Fake is an exception.
>>285218001Yes he is the tard assassin chicks master
god imagine fucking francesca while getting fucked by francois
Is this the same who given Dragon cock lover's friend the book that cause him to go crazy or was that someone else
>>285218591Yes, only the book didn't make him go crazy, he was just Like That after Jeanne died.
>>285216956He’s not making it easy bros…
>>285218933When will we see this scene in the anime?
>>285218965Should be fit in near the end of next episode.
>>285218933>He agrees to see her secret organs>She pull out her massive cockWhy doesn’t Orlando just fuck her already?
>>285218933Ograns terces?
>>285218001District Attorneys
>>285218933Rows of teeth like a shank
>>285218933Her seiyuu is killing it. I love Maaya Uchida.
>>285219426A lot of the voicework is excellent. Jester's playful monologue was delightful. And Hansa sounds downright seductive.And Tsubaki was unbelievably cute. She needs more scenes.
>>285219426>seiyuuywnbj
>>285219691How do you get triggered by a regular ass word
>>285217443Why doesn't he just do this again?
>>285216956>Come, I'll take you to a world of fantasy, wonders and old men in lil' girls bodies.
>>285217443If i were a DA,i would love to have a white woman that hunts me down and kills me 17 times.Purest form of love.
>>285217443he can't beat servants like gil enkidu richard and co
Being a DA would unironically make you a better assassin than a jobber assassin servant.
>>285219959Is this a trustworthy person?
huh arthur pendragon was a male all along?
So is Richard the strongest servant?
>>285220130Miles from it, why would you think so? He's a solid B classer who has a freak master.
>>285220024It's better to be a magus overall in Fate setting in my opinion. Especially since a bunch of magi like A Team are as strong as servants.
>>285217230You're probably gonna have time enjoying this if you don't have much exposure to Fate/stay night. Around 1/3 of Fake is dedicated to glazing F/sn.
>>285220130Lord Lorges aka the Saber of Saber is the strongest Saber now.
>>285220187>why would you think so?cause gil is helpless against him
>being stronger than JOBBERmesh Not a high bar.
>>285220205Not being a magus is actually more practical as far as Masters go. A general trend is that a lot of Heroic Spirits just prefer having total normies for Masters.
why has gil been summoned in so many grail wars and jobbed in all of them
That explosion at the opera house must have made international news, right?
>>285220248>is helpless against himJust like his master :)
Post a character chart like this one, except better
>>285220303>why has gil been summoned in so many grail warsAll scrubs think picking the top-tier character will give them an easy win.>and jobbed in all of themNarrative tension requires that overpowered characters never get to display their full power.
>>285220205A Team is literally selected and handpicked from a pool of 7 billion humans though.You can't really get better than that unless you're going for non-human.
>>285220323They made a Twitter account for Snowfield so you know how this sorta stuff is reported on in universe https://x.com/Snowfield_Daily/status/2008863690955657528?s=20People hear about a gas leak or animals getting sick, they aren't going to think about it much
>>285220303he won the 4th
>>285220348Gilgamesh explicitly never displays his full power. He will usually match his opponent. For instance, when he fought Shirou in the Fate route, he limited himself to using Merodach in response to Shirou's Caliburn. This is surprisingly consistent across nearly all of his appearances.
>>285220359bro kadoc was dogshit
>>285220281It is actually.Only strong characters job, and only the strongest character jobs the most.
Huwawa beating Gil like a rented mule when?
>>285220303>Won 4th war>Won CCC war>Won extra grail war(Gilgamesh ending)>Won Extella
>>285219970Sure he can if you get good enough
>>285220472Like how he matched Dark Sakura in HF?
Reminder it's canon mages control the media in TM to avoid any "mishaps"Richard getting on a Livestream in America was something they didn't even anticipate properly, but overall it was dismissed since most people will just see it as a guy in a suit of armor
Mages got only a year or two before they can't conceal it anymore since none of them can comprehend technology
>>285220359You don't need Rayshift potential as a regular master which should open the pool a bit
speaking of DA, i never dabbled with Tsukihime, but why does it seem like Arcueid is weak as fuck? or at least in the beginning. was she weakened somehow? And why is her own kind out to kill her. I would feel like if you are the originator, you'd have respect from your "kids"
>>285218933fuck him
>>285220806She can't ever go beyond 30% power since her sister stole 70% of her power and she has to use most of her power holding back her bloodlust
>>285220806>was she weakened somehow?yeah anon she was kind of fucking weakened
>>285220837ok but how couldn she prevent that from happening in the first place
>>285220806Her younger sister offscreened her before the events of Tsukihime and that nerfs her, then Shiki cuts her into 17 pieces so she has to reconstitute herself and the entirety of that story is basically her fighting while her body is recovering from >>285220837 . Plus her primary power ability is the planet provides her with the enemies power level +1 because it likes to conserve energy itself, so she's always more powerful than her opponent but not by astronomical means. Don't bring a nuke to a knife fight and all that.
>>285220837>White women spotted
>>285220705Modern magecraft is about to enter its golden age as everyone else will have no choice but to consult them on how to navigate this mysterious "internet".
>>285220829Is her sister hot?
>>285220876Perfect ambush. It was during the day, the guy who attacked her had no magical signature and was swinging a knife with no magical signature either, and by the time the blade hit her and she realized something was wrong, the next 16 slashes were inbound.
>>285220837Kinda hot to be honest desu
>>285220806Arcueid was killed by the MEoDP at the beginning of the game, which is THE single most powerful ability in the entire TM verse. You're not even supposed to come back from that, yet she did.Arcueid is stated to be the most powerful entity in the Tsukihime universe despite since even despite the fact her bloodlust limits her to only use 30% she is basically invincible. The 70% is overrated because Arcueid is always more powerful than the opponent she is fighting, now in Remake this accounts for opponent's number of weapons and even trump cards if she thinks she needs extra power. The reason why she can keep amping her power infinitely is because her Principle compresses energy and information on a planck scale, so she can keep increasing her mass and energy without downsides since energy past a certain point is meant to cause cosmic inflation or collapse into a black hole. She doesn't have that issue.
>>285220876Shiki rolled 5 natural 20s and she rolled 5 natural 1s.
>>285220910>what is killing intent
>>285220929Something Shiki had none of. He was full of LUST.She is not equipped to recognize lust.
>>285220929not a thing and shiki had more lust intent than killing intent anyway
>>285220876Imagine being Superman and some asshole with a knife jumps you. You're Superman so you don't dodge because a knife does nothing to you. Except you're in a Type-Moon story so in this specific case it does and you're already in a couple pieces by this realization.
>>285220946it is a thing but the only person so amateur as to use killing intent is Gilgamesh
>>285220876You can't "detect" a random kid having eyes of death. From her perspective it was just an average pickpocket with a fruit knife Arc is the brain of the planet Eyes of death are connected to the root so they're higher tier, they bypass everyone's defenses You don't even need a weapon to use the eyesShikis physical abilities are nothing special but he has an ability that's perfect for an assassin Old Nasu said that in card terms Shiki is the two of hearts, the weakest card. But if he can manage to touch someone he can disable their bullshit. Most people here think Shiki is a super powered fighter on par with servants, he's really not. But he had one ability of note Maybe two
>>285220921>Average tsukifag post >MEODP is The strongest in all of creation>Arc is THE STRONGEST TO EVER EXIST>Strongest strongest strongest strongest blah blah Arc can't even deal with ORTLB7 kinda proves that
>>285220963i don't think killig intent is ever identified as a thing in TM, at least FGO doesn't have a single instance of the phrase
>>285220966>Shikis physical abilities are nothing specialThis is false since Arc flat out states his assassination skills are just as rare as his eyes in Remake
>>285221001>Arc can't even deal with ORTSure you can. Especially when ORT gets hard-walled by immortality.>LB7 kinda proves thatIt doesn't. Dino Arc is not Arc bro.
>>285220966No wonder everyone wants to buy mystic eyes
>>285221004
>>285221001Even in kagetsu Tohya Arc with marble phantasm was weaker than the 2nd Nero who required an attack that could destroy the entire world to kill herWhen Neros last victim respawned as a "new Nero"
>>285221006i think anon means going by the big dogslike shiki is superhuman but he's still just like maybe a few times stronger than a normal human compared to DAAs being like hundreds or thousands of times
>>285221006Was gonna mention that. Shiki has assassin genes.
>>285221041not like that, but the kind where the person is like I could tell you're going to attack because of your killing itent kind of thing
>>285221036Arcueid's immortality isn't the kind that ORT can't deal with. It just has to keep killing her until the sun rises.
>>285220876Imagine a small ant walking on your floor,you pay no attention because it's a ant of course so it's whatever. Turns out this ant is unlike the others because it's bite can cause you to instantly explode you into gibs.
>>285221052Yeah, but you're forgetting skills past a certain point are on the same tier as Magic in TM. Case in point Tsubame Gaeshi is just 100% skill. Same for Soujuurou's punch which is also a load of bullshit.Shiki's assassination skills are also just as weird.
Every time I am reminded of Nasu going full Powerlevelfag in TsukiRe, I fear for Red Garden
>>285221072Then that is a thing too, it's why Presence Concealment sucks against servants and Sphere Boundary is absurd. Presence Concealment fails almost completely when the servant moves to attack (special exemption: Spooky Hassan goes down from EX concealment to A+ concealment because he is one with all shadows).
>Kuzuki x Medea>Souujuurou x Alice>Pepe x Beryl(?)Where's Hansa's Witch?
>>285221122I've grimly accepted Satsuki's route is going to be powerlevel slop. Depletion Garden is going to be used in arguments from people who have never read the vn.
>>285221085Arcueid doesn't lose her immortality under the sun. She merely has a time of death but so does Ciel with Roa's paradox and Ciel herself is more immortal than Camazotz who has a biological immortality.Not to mention she hits waaaay harder than Camazotz due to her Principle compressing mass and energy. So ORT would not have a fun time.
>>285220376>>285220323I wonder if 4Chan exist inworld because /x/ and maybe /pol/ would run wild once someone took photo or video of anything in the HGW
>>285220633>>285220660>>285220705>>285220891How do Magecraft work again?
>>285221179>Ciel herself is more immortal than CamazotzDoubtful. Camazotz is like the most immmortal immortal who has ever immortaled in TM.
>>285221157At least we'll get to see Chaos again
>>285221217Not really. Camazotz himself stated he survives by obtaining heat from the Earth. Take it another way and he can't survive without heat, he'll probably die in space like Karz in JoJo.Ixquic also stated his immortality was acquired through body-modification, rather than some conceptual hax.
>>285221157Satsuki route always seemed like it was going to be action packed/powerlevel-related from the rough ideas presented in Plus-Disc though. Nrvnqsr Chaos was going to fill Misaki Town with his beasts.
>>285216984little coochie
>>285221157Depletion Garden will probably get replaced. We don't really live in an era where Reality Marbles are hot shit anymore. Now it's all about Idea Bloods and Principles.
>>285221214Something about hypnotising yourself into believing the impossible, then using up energy from your magical circuits to trick the planet into granting you a wish.
>>285221344Indeed. Funniest thing is Roa still has his Overload RM while also having a Principle as a separate thing.
>>285220837
>>285221179Using more mass and energy on ORT is a terrible idea. Hitting ORT harder than Camazotz is a terrible idea.Camazotz had to strike it precisely in a way that allowed the Malla to neutralize it. Vaporizing ORT's heart just means it regenerates its heart and keeps fighting.>Arcueid doesn't lose her immortality under the sun. She merely has a time of deathIf you have the concept of death within you you are not immortal.
>>285221214Human souls have the capacity to produce magical energy or manipulate ambient energy to create phenomena.A crucial aspect of what lets you perform shit that defies logic is something called "mystery", meaning that you need to hold a belief that something paranormal CAN happen, rather than believing it's impossible, then trick yourself and the world into letting it happen. For this, the best tool you can use is your own religion, mythology and folklore, because not only is it easier for you the caster to swallow and execute, but the collective belief of humanity in such myths gives it stability and makes it easier to perform (this is why people invoke known gods and fairys instead of their own OCs.)The issue with mystery is that it NEEDS to remain, well, mysterious, or your little reality hack sops working. This is why the advancement of science weakens magecraft, and why mages fight tooth and nail to keep themselves hidden, because the more people know about magic, the more mundane it becomes, and magic itself loses potency until it dies.At least that's how I understand it.
Satsuki's route should be Near Side. She's Shiki's classmate.
>>285221347>>285221470So /x/fags would be very powerrful
>>285221214To add to this, originally magecraft was tied to gods and only those with a connection to the gods could use it. Solomon made it so that normal people could use it. But magecraft relies on mystery, so the more people know about something, the less effective magic becomes.
>>285221448>Using more mass and energy on ORT is a terrible idea. Hitting ORT harder than Camazotz is a terrible idea.Neither of those are terrible ideas. The only way to deal with ORT has been always stated to destroy it through sheer blunt force. Since you can't defeat it through gimmicks.>Camazotz had to strike it precisely in a way that allowed the Malla to neutralize it. Vaporizing ORT's heart just means it regenerates its heart and keeps fighting.Yeah, but ORT goes into hibernation if it takes too much damage overall, which is the entire reason it was inactive for millions of years after crash landing on Earth in the past in LB7. So you can just keep hitting it harder and it will go down eventually.>If you have the concept of death within you you are not immortal.Not the case. Ciel is fully immortal and can never die to any kind of physical damage yet she still has a concept of death. Arc's concept of death during daytime is mostly tied to her bloodlust anyway, since that's stated to be the sole flaw in True Ancestors. It's not something anyone can capitalize in actual combat, since True Ancestors don't have any structural imperfection.
>>285221292All the humans on earth sacrificed themselves to him to become immortal, which is how he became a beast As a beast of sorrow he killed humanity, and as a beast he got revenge for them against ORTRegenerating from everything ORT used until he finally managed to gouge out it's chest and rip out its heart
>>285221492Yes, tulpa shit is a valid method.Unironically by the way. There's a subset of magecraft users, the Atlas alchemists, who have as their basic ability the creation of "thought partitions". You know how you can split your PC into pieces to run different OS? Think the same but for your own brain, which lets them go through multiple thoughts and tasks at the same time. Funny thing is, it gets really demented because they usually give each partition a different personality which they can then converse with. Most alchemists use as extra points of view for their own work, but some see people they're interested in and create an approximation of what they think they are like, which they then add to themselves to create a literal imaginary friend in their head.
>>285221628So that is why so many Mages are batshit insane
>>285221441the forbidden one
>>285221595>which is how he became a beastNasu stated Camazotz became a Beast after ORT went into hibernation. He wasn't a Beast when he fought ORT.Nasu also stated Camazotz regenerated from his arm holding the spear. We don't know if he took more damage than that.The guy's regeneration is still not conceptual in nature like Ciel's though.
>>285220837Nothing some good ol' duct tape can't fix
>>285221675To be fair, the above example is limited to a group of egyptian recluses. For the majority of mages out there, the reason is much more straightforward: their parents beat sociopathy into them. Why? Because THEIR parents beat sociopathy into them, all so they could dedicate their life and children purely to magic research.
>>285220376Is this actually official or someone's LARP? I can't find any links to this.
>>285221590>Neither of those are terrible ideas. The only way to deal with ORT has been always stated to destroy it through sheer blunt force. Since you can't defeat it through gimmicks.The only thing with that much force is fully unshackled unlimited Excalibur. Arcueid regards Excalibur as her sibling and rival, so don't assume she can equal or surpass it with ease. It's made specifically to kill aliens, she isn't.Also ORT recognizes such threats and deflects them, whereas it just tanks things that aren't significant.>Yeah, but ORT goes into hibernationBit of a complication there. It's unclear why it sometimes deactivates and decides not to regenerate, but we know absolutely that it activates in regards to hostility. Attacking it with intent of shutting it off is a no-go.>Not the case. Ciel is fully immortal and can never die to any kind of physical damage yet she still has a concept of death. Just means she can die to various kinds of executed concepts. Camazotz, in comparison, just ignores such concepts because Oblivion overwrites anyone trying to do something to him, he just forgets whatever you did.ORT isn't just a physical attacker, though its repertoire of concepts are only what it's harvested and decoded. Which is at least one Dead Apostle Ancestor so not insignificant.>Arc's concept of death during daytime is mostly tied to her bloodlust anywayYou mean the bloodlust that gets stronger the more she takes relevant damage? Eventually ORT mangling her is going to make her fall into demon lord status, whereupon the world revokes her immortality entirely.
>>285221755Is there any sane ones or do that just come with the job
>>285221817If you were sane, you probably wouldn't become a mage. And if you were sane and a mage, you'd probably be a shitty one.It takes years of generational succession to be a decent mage, unless you're born some kind of magical freak, and even then that probably just makes you some weird unique magical freak rather than a decent mage.
>>285221717That was the moment I fell in love with Arc.
>>285221817There are. It's kind of a common theme in TM stories that mages live a contradictory existence because they can't always eradicate their human side or their empathy, so here and there you see mages struggling with morality, failing to live up to the standard of heartlessness expected of them, experiencing love and friendship and what not. Rin is your gold standard of the orthodox magus that still lets morality make the final decision.
>>285221817There are sane magi but no sane alchemists (those egyptian weirdos). Every alchemist is insane; every member of Atlas has a hobby of predicting the end of the world, then dedicating their life to averting that end of the world.The chief of Atlas in particular gets a new apocalyptic portent every day and he's charmingly loopy.
>>285221817Waver and his students have the most morality.
>>285221590You can't actually kill ORT through brute force, that's kinda the point of LB7>Rip it's heart out>It evolved to not need a heart>Kill it>It evolved beyond death>Destroy every inch of its body>It evolved beyond the need for a body>Fully destroy it>It resummons itself instantly ORT is a machine that infinitely evolves beyond anything that impedes itIt's a fully deathless being It will evolve beyond anything, and that was a massively gimped ORT
>>285219791Normalfags are just that stupid.
>>285221867>>285221887>>285221899>>285221905How haven't this thing died countless times over from members killing each other and/or themselves
>>285221905That's a case of one moral mage finding himself in a spot where he gets to instill ethics into young impressionable teens. Magic teaching is meant yo be a scam by design, but the fag didn't get the hint and thought he had to teach properly.
>>285221905Waver is his own brand of insanity.
>>2852219671. Faculty of law2. Mages tend to have multiple kids just in case. They can only pass the magic to one, but it's smart to have spares ready if the first gets assassinated or whatever.
>>285221867So basically if you were a magical freak, you would probably have a sealing designation applied to you and you'd end up as a brain in a jar.And the first of their generation mages like Guda tend to be low tier shitters. First, they don't have a crest via inheritance so you are guaranteed to be shit. Second no training. Third, just poor potential because without eugenic breeding you don't have circuits.
Panties under Pantyhose.
>>285221812>Arcueid regards Excalibur as her sibling and rivalExcalibur is basically created as a cope for the planet lacking an Ultimate One, who is meant to fill the role of protecting and managing the planet. Being a sibling merely references the fact Excalibur was created using fairies as compotents, not tha they're equal in power. And yes, Arcueid can surpass Excalibur for the simple fact she has the best energy manipulation in the entire verse, being the only character shown able to compress limitless energy on a planck scale.>Also ORT recognizes such threats and deflects themORT uses gravity manipulation to deflect them, but we don't know if ORT would use that same method to counter regular blows carrying that same amount of force.ORT couldn't regenerate because it took too much damage. Which is why dinos hearts were fed to it for a long time in order to heal it.>Just means she can die to various kinds of executed conceptsNope. Remake explicitly states Ciel won't die even if her soul is erased out of existence, let alone only her physical body. There is no evidence Camazotz lacks the concept of death, perhaps his Beast form does, but definitely not his human form and he only became a Beast after ORT went into hibernation. Camazotz immortality is biological in nature due to body modification. He has nothing on Ciel's immortality which is existence restoration even after her soul is erased.>ORT isn't just a physical attacker, though its repertoire of concepts are only what it's harvested and decodedI can agree with this. However, ORT doesn't have much to do unless you use gimmicky abilities against it.>You mean the bloodlust that gets stronger the more she takes relevant damage?Not how it works. In an actual battle she can heal the damage as long as she wasn't damaged by something like the MEoDP prior. The world also doesn't revoke her immortality, especially when she is the world soul itself and highest authority. Don't make stuff up.
what is this look she's giving him?
>>285221918>You can't actually kill ORT through brute force,I agree, but you can put it out of commission for at least a long time.And no, ORT doesn't evolve against physical destruction. Specially when physical destruction has always been stated to be the only way to truly kill it. Kukulca directly stated Chaldea would have defeated ORT if it's heart was destroyed with the only reason it kept regenerating was because it's heart was still alive.
>>285221967Magus who carry magical crests are not able to commit suicide because of the Grand Order curse that Goetia has laid down.
What if Arcueid wraps duct tape all over ORT's body until it can move no more
>>285221812>>285222113Let's just agree to disagree and say they fight to a draw and neither can kill the other. Not much point in this back and forth really.
>>285221812>Oblivion overwrites anyone trying to do something to him, he just forgets whatever you did.>Camazotz will forget that he has nut inside you
>>285222135>I wonder how long Excalibur is...
>>285222113>And yes, Arcueid can surpass Excalibur for the simple fact she has the best energy manipulation in the entire verse, being the only character shown able to compress limitless energy on a planck scale.I'm tired of this so I'm just going to say that's not actual evidence. The fineness of her manipulation does not speak to the absolute output of her manipulation, Excalibur is tailor made to destroy external threats, including Ultimate Ones if need be. Arcueid is not made for that, she is made in imitation of Brunestud. It'd be illogical for Brunestud, an extraterrestrial, to automatically be superior to Excalibur, a weapon made to destroy extraterrestrials.If anything I'd believe Excalibur would be calibrated to destroy Brunestud too. It's a brute force final solution. Arcueid is a thousand times more elegant.
>>285222155Nah, it regenerated because crystal valley(xibalba version), it turned the entire world into itself, so long as even a single tree remained it could never die fully. As long as any part of it remains it will return and evolve. It wasn't the heart that was the issue, it was everythingYes it's entire body was destroyed by Excalibur and it instantly summoned itself back beyond death. And it instantly did it again after you killed ORT xibalba Kukulan had to burn up the entire world to remove the trees
>>285217627Prelati is a historical figure and you already know their name. They're a genderflip in this case via alchemical body hopping. Prelati is the occultist who gave Bluebeard his demon book.
>>285222039panties are not supposed to be worn under pantyhose, pantyhose is literally a panties replacement, it's in the name
How close is the LN to being finished?
>>285221313Noel will make things more complicated since she hates vampires and she’s Satsuki and Shiki’s teacher. I think Satsuki route will get expanded largely compared to whatever Nasu originally planned.
>>285222293Not even saying you're wrong, but Maken Ki would disagree.
ZABANIYA
>>285222343Maken Ki was trash
>>285222382Let's get you to the retirement home, grandpa.
Does FSF stem off one of the game routes and the FZ 4th HGW or is it a completely isolated separate thing because fuck I dunno multiversal Zeltrech bullshit.
>>285222243The entire reason Excalibur can destroy extraterrestrials is because it channels the energy of the Inner Sea which is part of Arcueid, hell it's explicitly her Reality Marble.Katatsuki Kouhon states an Ultimate One is meant to hold a celestial body's worth of energy inside themselves. Excalibur uses a formula that accelerates energy and turns it into light, which Arc shows to be able to do too.Bear in mind that Arc herself is a rarer existence than Excalibur since Excalibur can be made at any time by the planet just from the six fairies doing their job. Arc on the other hand required the help of Brunestud creating the True Ancestors and even despite all that Arc's birth was basically a miracle.
>>285222322On the last book i think because it will be the size of two if i recall
>>285222435We have a big white dino Arc though so it can't be that rare.
I wonder how much they would pay someone who can keep up with the lore of Fate at Type Moon if they start giving them jobs
>>285222270>It wasn't the heart that was the issue, it was everythingThis wasn't stated though. Kukulcan said it was it's heart not the trees it created
Will these chucklefucks actually do anything of worth outside the first Jester fight.Or are they just here to aura farm and be porn bait.
how come FSF jack looks different than Apoc jack? which one is the real jack? or can "anyone" be jack the ripper since the world was never made aware of jack's real identity?
explain imaginary numbers magic right now
>>285222489>or can "anyone" be jack the ripper since the world was never made aware of jack's real identity?Shortest non-autistic answer is this one.Loli Jack is just one of the candidates for the legend.
>>285222486Hansa is taking part in the final battle but they do pretty much nothing for 9 volumes.
>>285222489jacke the ripper is like hassans and robin hoodsmany candidateswe'll get to see the design of another prime jack potentially, an older gentleman, as long as the anime doesn't skip it
>>285222520>but they do pretty much nothingClassic Fateverse Church.
>>285222489Fsf jack is the london legend jack while apoc jack is the culmination of unborn babies of prostitutes that jack killed
>>285222474AnonThis shit is nothing compared to Index, Gundam, KR or Warhammer
>>285222293>panties are not supposed to be worn under pants, pants are literally a panties replacement, it's in the nameThis is what you sound like.
>>285222509>>285222489>>285222538>>285222549Even shorter answer is this one.There is not true Jack because he or she or it wasn't unmasked meaning it will fit the class it get summoned into
>>285222462Dino Arc is stated to be Meta Earth and not the real thing.
>>285222554Isn't Warhammer the thing that keep retconning itself every other book
>>285222489read this https://youtu.be/3ssA8NUADyo?si=e0mhCtbFdWMaD79-&t=247Its easier to look this up than find the Apoc novel section that explains it. But loli jack isn't the actual Jack the ripper. There are many theories of who jack is, since there is no absolute answer, all theories are "valid" and summonable.
>>285222538So far there is still only a single Robin Hood though.
>>285222549Unborn children of prostitutes that became a vengeful curse that targeted them as a potential origin of he Jack the Ripper legend.
>>285222474Doctor Who hires canon advisers and it started in 1963. For the record, stories with the FGO style intervention plots I have noticed tend to last 20ish years.
is Hassan x Jester yuri?
>>285222549>>285222589Is that one real or something they made up
>>285221967A "normal" mage family has a grand magical goal to achieve, and getting in fights is a good way to get yourself killed/hinder your research.
>>285222610loli jack is an abortion ghost, and she's not the original jack the ripper. Both of those are true.She's just a random ghost that got assimilated into his legend, but not the real thing.
>>285222544Aren't they only there to oversee the war? They don't participate in anyway whatsoever. Kotomine is only in it because he's also a master.
FSF and FZ/FSN had Gil in his Archer form which was supposed to be a copy of him when his douchebaggery was at its peak. But FSF Gil is still a pretty swell dude.What the fuck was wrong with FZ Gil.
>>285222462Ixquic is Archetype: Earth but not an Ultimate One. Archetypes and Ultimate Ones are not the same, Arcueid is just a peculiar thing who is both an Archetype and almost an Ultimate One. (She doesn't get to be Type-Earth because Altrouge is sharing Earth's celestial egg at the moment.)
>>285222432Separate route. Supposedly closer to some weird UBW/HF fusion? Someone in the threads say the Greater Fuyuki Grail has already been destroyed in the FSF timeline.
>>285222474>I wonder how much they would pay someone who can keep up with the lore of Fate at Type Moon if they start giving them jobsThey already have jobs, they're the Case Files and Strange Fake authors.
>>285222652There's no UBW aspect at all? Waver's classroom happens in every timeline. There's also no Shirou in this at all.Its HF + Himuro timeline
>>285222644FZ Gil was okay with the war since he treated it more like an entertainment to pass the time.But after living in the modern world for 10 years, being close to the gigasadist that is Kirei, and the loser that is Shinji, of course he would want to flood the world to reset it just like why the gods back then did it.
>>285222588We have two. Green Man and Loxley.
>>285222675>. There's also no Shirou in this at all.He exists though. Dumas wanted to recruit him, but cop man said no because Shirou's projections are weaker than the original, so he thought he'd be useless.
>>285222675There's vague rumors of someone having a magecraft that can reproduce NPs, probably reference to Shirou, which I feel like doesn't really match up to what people would have learned from HF, plus Shirou shouldn't be able to use anything like that for a while after HF since he has to go under rehab for his new body IIRC.
>>285220660How do you even 'bring back the great holy grail system'?Like sure, you could probably summon a Servant then go to Clock Tower, but don't you need to actually bring back the grail?
We have male(female)female(male)clay(gae)
>>285222489Whenever Berserker tries to become a child, he becomes lolijack
>>285222644FSF has Enkidu which put him in a really good mood.
>>285222690>>285222690FSF Gil is actually a tad protective with Tine.FZ/FSN Gil was okay with Kirei using orphan children as mana tank slaves in a basement.He does the whole muh innocent children spiel in FSF. But is apparently okay with said innocent children being used like fuel through none of their own fault.
>>285222647Katatsuki Kouhon states a real planet's brain/Archetype is in charge of planetary managemet. But Dino Arc isn't. Granted this is probably because Kukulcan took those roles, but in either case she is not a planetary admistrator like Arc is in Tsuki, hence it being a Lost Belt.Also Ultimate Ones are copies of their planet so Arc doesn't have to share her egg with Altrouge, they don't have the same soul.Similar to Olga being a copy of Earth but hollow as an Earth Silhouette. But actually the real deal.
Is Nightingale the most effective servant against Pale Rider?
>>285222501answer me
Who's going to tell Zealot that the Hassan go from 0-18?
>>285222743>Granted this is probably because Kukulcan took those rolesThe Malla, rather. The Malla is the will of the world, Earth appears to be straight overruled in Lostbelt 7. Probably because it's still a hell of fire and death on the surface.>Also Ultimate Ones are copies of their planet so Arc doesn't have to share her egg with Altrouge, they don't have the same soul.If that were the case she'd be Type-Earth, but Nasu explicitly said she's not because of Altrouge. The Earth is a supercolossal life form, it can be in several bodies.
>>285222800>Zealot herself is actually a ZabaniyaKINO
>>285222770Maybe Assclap since he's known as the god of medicine and potentially has a NP meant to revive people.>>285222775It just works.
>>285222770Asclepius is the only doctor who has cured death, but I don't think even he can actually push Pale Rider away. Nurses and doctors are enemies of death, but always succumb to him in the end. You instead need people who overcome underworlds and apocalypses. The single strongest against him would probably be Voyager who eludes the end of the world entirely, Pale Blue Dot would likely collapse Doomsday Come like a bubble. The end of one world is nothing but a fragment of a pixel.
>>285222825Katatsuki Kouhon directly states the goal of the planet's brain being born was realized with Arc's birth, not Altrouge who was born earlier.We don't know what the deal with Altrouge is, perhaps she is aligned with the Moon with stakes over Earth. She is explicitly not earth's brain though, which is a requirement for the Ultimate One title since they are interlinked
>>285222939The earth has several more organs to be, like Woodwose being its lungs and Kiara trying to become its pussy.
>>285221470I now realise that Nasu stole almost everything from World of Darkness.
>>285222955pretty much
>>285222949>and Kiara trying to become its pussy.... there's someone out there with a dick big enough to fuck a planet?
>>285222955It's a very superficial resemblance, mages and Mages are very unalike. The Human Order is antithetical to Consensus and Paradox is radically unlike Mystery.
Who is the technocracy of the nasuverse?
>>285222949Sure but the Archetype is explicitly the soul which is equated to the brain. Also Kiara invented that shit.
>>285216956>it's another Fate where my hero Heracles gets done dirtyHis worldwide fame must have made Type-Moon authors mad at some pointThis is getting so tiresome
>>285222610Since Jack the Ripper's identity was never found out, their form changes in accordance with the class they are summoned into.As an Assassin, they represent the collective consciousness of those who were never given the chance to be born.Since Assassin Jack was killed before she was born, her wish to the Grail is to return to her mother's womb.She is naive, but perhaps because she was summoned as Jack the Ripper, she is astonishingly intuitive.After being summoned as an Assassin, she calls herself "Jack the Ripper," but even she doesn't know if she's the real killer.She remembers killing several women, but is uncertain if they are Jack's victims.As a child who was never loved, she strongly seeks love.She desires a mother's love from her Master, be they male or female.You're free to respond to her wishes, but don't be surprised if she crawls into your belly.tl;dr a vengeful curse of aborted/stillborn children that wants to do unbirth.
One of the fun parts of this war is that certain servants are so abnormal that they very well may just be the schizophrenic delusions of the master, since no one else can perceive the servant
>>285223113
redline chads im losing faith for the new chapter
>>285218001Always did. Fate and Tsukihime originally took place in the same continuity before a bunch of retcons happened.
>>285223214You mean before Nasu bullied Narita and Sanda
>>285220837would
>>285223252all those retarded fanfics of shirou turning into a half dead apostle ancestor needed to be erased
>>285223272Dead apostles still exist in fate worlds, they just never progress beyond rank 6 or 7. All the ancestors still exist in fate worlds, they just aren't called DAA in fate worlds. Nero Chaos still exists, he just isn't given a super fancy title.
>>285221470Wait that doesn't make sense. If magecraft is dependent on you convincing yourself/the world that something is possible, then everyone thinking "Yeah it's possible to throw fireballs" should strengthen, not weaken magic.
I wish I was part of a holy grail war
>>285223296as an Organization 27 the DAA doesn't exist, they exist individually but not as mystery niggas.
Some Zabaniyas are so stupid.>Cyber Fantasy: Turns the target's head into a bomb and detonates it.A method so obvious and unique may as well be a calling card stating exactly who did it.>Dead Heartbeat Melody: Creates an extremely unusual and clean hole through the victim's heartThis is even worse.>Febrile Inspiration: Turns the user's skin as hard as diamondNot bad but also what the fuck kind of shitty Assassin are you that your main power is all about making yourself bulletproof?
>>285223324It never existed as an organization to begin with, the church just created that designation to label them.
she also has a zabaniya that makes me bustshe doesn't need to cast it, it's a passive
>>285223345It's now just a designation for whoever has an Idea Blood.
>>285223296>Nero Chaos still exists, he just isn't given a super fancy title.Nah in Fate worlds he just chills at Baldanders in the age of gods, if he can't make a new world then becoming a vampire is gay as fuck.
>>285223360He was always part of wandering sea before becoming a vampire
>>285223374Yeah but presumably an Idea Blood is a juicy enough justification to leave.
>>285223400>have access to unlimited magic, your own world/dimension that's entirely cut off from the world, age of the gods magic, an entire world no one knows about containing infinite "something", even the end of the world cannot touch you inside of your world, where you can infinitely research whatever you want without physical limitsor >Turn yourself into a freak that can't ever go out in the sun and must constantly kill people to live "but its cool because I can be part alligator"No that's dumb
When Hansa spergs out about the Burial Agency next episode, I wonder if they'll change a bit of stuff to reflect the new Tsukihime lore.
>>285223446if they were truly based we'd get silhouettes of Burial Agency members including an obvious Ciel with star bow
>>285223446>>285223473Did nu-kihime actually change anything about the church? I get that they changed the roster of the DAA but I think how the church worked was untouched.
>>285221179You realize that level 1 ORT created an entire fanfiction world where it became a hero of justice, just to be able to respawn as a Grand Foreigner JUST TO KEEP FIGHTING.Bitch wasn't even level 2, let alone 90.It has been stated that no one can fight ORT until humanity EVOLVES TO over the next 100 years.Bitch is a 'TYPE' for a damn reason.
>whoever said there was only 5 magics>whoever said there were only 7 classes>whoever said the Hassans went from 1-18>whoever said the DAA were numbered 1-27>whoever said there were only 13 knights in the Round TableNasu....
>>285223488Kubo keeps winning
>>285223487>Still gets lost in the Clouds in Notes.
>>285223485All I get from discussions now is that every DAA is now multiversal tier reality warper with no limits on their powers, and every church member is now goetia tier minimum. Then when you say that all sounds like retarded nonsense now, people just start saying "idea bloods" or some shit.
>>285223516Nah, that's the real Type-Mercury.
>>285223525It's some usual overhyping. Goetia is planetary class, he'd flick vampires and burial agents away with ease. Ars Almadel Salomonis is one of the few abilities that can totally kill Arcueid.Idea Bloods are super moves, but they're not on any greater echelon than an EX rank noble phantasm or divine Authority, or a fully realized Holy Grail.
Is Kiara still a Burial Agent in Fate/strange Fake? Her situation changes pretty drastically depending on whether it's Fate or Tsukihime, isn't it? In Fate/Grand Order's timeline, she was a therapist on the Seraphix facility.
>>285223591Kiara is wherever the fuck turns Nasu on the most. In Extra worlds, she should be 7 years old as of 2009.
>separates fate from tsukihime because servants are too flashy compared to tsukihime>proceeds to raise power levels for the tsukihime remakeWhat was the point of it all?
>>285223516ORT isn't TYPE Mercury anymoreORT is a planet eater that comes from the OORT cloud from the long distant part of the universe. It crash lands on planets, advances the life forms on the planet, and then devours the planet once it becomes ripe. Its a monster that even planets can't deal with.People will claim its a retcon, but even ORT's original materials casts a lot of doubt on whether it was really TYPE Mercury
Bratty old man
>>285223618>People will claim its a retconIt's a japanese bait and switch that we didn't understand."Suisei no Kumo" = Spider of Mercury but homophonous with "Suisei no Kumo" = Cloud of Comets
>>285223554That's if you try and evaluate this. But really, Nasu will just display favouritism to characters he likes. For example, Goetia's role and powers have essentially been gifted to Lev wholesale.
>>285223720It's not just thought. The original profile in Character Material said "The Ultimate One of Mercury(?)". Fan translations completely omitted the "(?)".
>>285220205>like A TeamOnly three Team A members are capable of killing Servants and only one of them is actually human.
It’s funny and also sad when I think I know Tsukihime lore decently, then people start dropping half a dozen names I don’t recognize and point out a facet of some ability I didn’t know existed.
>>285223784>Team A is filled with extraordinary monsters and geniuses>Also KadocSomeone remind me why Kadoc was there?
>>285223816They sensed his protagonist-energy levels were high
>>285223854How come they couldn't sense the actual protagonist?
>>285223861Too blank-slate-maxxed to even be detected
>This chick shows up and slaps your archnemesis on the assHow do you respond?
>>285222236Ask Kojirou he knows
>>285223737Lev has always been Goetia. Flauros was basically the spokesman for the whole collective. He speaks the same way Goetia does. It's why he was the last pillar to cease activity and the first one we met. The rest are just his pals.
>>285223784While they may not kill servants on their own, Akuta is still a genuine elemental and if she drinks blood she fights as well as one (albeit she is incompetent and no noble phantasm). And Ophelia can damn even servants and gods with her outrageously overpowered mystic eye. They're still freaks and vampires would be wary of them. Akuta especially because she's inhuman and a dead apostle's anti-humanity trait means nothing to her so no advantages or freebies.
>>285221812>>285221590>The only way to deal with ORT has been always stated to destroy it through sheer blunt force. Since you can't defeat it through gimmicks.No, that's Sefar, which slaps your shit harder the more you try conceptual gimmicks on it. ORT you don't even get gimmicks because it evolves them away.
>>285222155Only ORT can kill ORT.ORT tells you this herself in FGO.
>>285224269Well, sorta. It's more like if you hit ORT with a gimmick, it goes "neat, let me try" and fires that gimmick right back at you 100x stronger
>>285223959Is Artoria's the same as Richy's???
>>285224227>she is incompetentShe is just distracted by robot horse cocks.
>>285224339No. Hers is bigger. And her technique is superior to his. They even call her the "Grand Saber" around these parts...
>>285224339Richard's imitation can never reach the power, length, or girth of the true Excalibur.
>>285224386If he were to handle the true Excalibur it might.
>>285224386But what about the (climax) finisher?
>>285222972For Kiara, the planet is just a dildo
>>285224399No. His profile states that even if he had the true Excalibur, he could never compare to the true King.
>>285224438So Seiba's Excalibur has a girth unmatched by anything short of Ea?
>>285224479Nah, there's hundreds of weapons of the same or similar rank these daysYamato Takeru has a higher rank sword than saber because he's Japanese, Japan wank wins again
Some of these lady-cops are super cute and I really hope they aren't all about to die.
>>285224548>american police in a anime>not dying horrifically
>>285224386So he's Shirou?
>>285224548You can see the dude who lost his arm has a cool noble phantasm prosthetic in the opening so presumably they all live to fight more.
>No Heracles until E5 at the earliestFUCK
>>285224579B-but these ones are so cute! Look at this one, look at the blonde with the spear!Also, does anyone have a webm of this scene?
>>285224902>being excited for the one man who is an even bigger jobber than gil.
>>285224916him losing the rest of he lives to a copy of Excalibur will always be my favorite jobbing.
>>285224915The added bit of them checking their pockets was cute. The pacing is pretty quick, but I feel like they’ve been handling the humor well so far
>>285218001It's had them for two decades
Name one Servant who isn't a jobber.
>>285225097MY GOAT!!!
>>285225097Achilles
>>285225097Definitely Achilles
Actually yeah it's AchillesTake away all his shit and he still gets the job done. He is the anti Heracles/Karna who have OP powers and job with them
>>285225097The only servant who doesn't job is... a man?
>>285225097Easy.
>>285225117>Never won a Holy Grail WarPsh.
>>285225157Wasn't her whole arc in Apocrypha coping over jobbing to Mordred?
>>285225174...I just typed "her" without even thinking about it. What a terrifying man.
>>285225135Achilles jobbed to Antares Snipe
>>285218933I want to fuck an old man...
>>285225174Won the grail war in the end.also they never seriously fought mord those were gags astolfo would have won if it was serious.
>>285225117Holy FUAK Achilles Hercbros how do we cope???…..
>>285225188When?
>>285223698Want to cum all over her soles...
This mentally deficient eggplant has the most extreme win/loss ratio in the entire franchise.
>>285225117>Take everything from Achilles that makes him OP and send him to fight an army made up of his teacher and a shitloud of super soldiers>He still gets the job doneHe's so fucking cool
Knights of Charlemagne>Knights of the jobber table
>>285225245It's just too bad he's so bland as a character. Flat as a sheet.
>>285225247Canonically it's the other way around
>>285225256How is he flat? He's one of the servants who is able to show a full range of emotion
>>285225308He's just sort of a boring shonen protagonist.
>>285225117This goes to illustrate how shit of a NP God Hand is from a narrative standpoint. Because Battle Continuation hasn't counted for SHIT in a single of Herc's appearances. Dude should be functionally immortal apart from like 7-8 servants who could feasibly fight him.
>>285225256Who do you think isn't a flat character?
>>285225332Morgan.
>>285225328It doesn't help that Nasu just keeps on nerfing it and every writer likes to use Herk as a punching bag to show how strong their character is.
>>285225256Consequence of being in Apocrypha sadly.
>>285225256>>285225312His fight with Atalanta is the most poignant moment in Apocrypha, if not the only one. Achilles leads with emotion over experience and intellect, and more often than not, it ends in tragedy. Flat and bland is definitely not how I’d describe him, especially compared to relatively shallow works like the bulk of Fate. If you’re comparing him to main characters, he’s the type whose actions are sowed to suffer real consequences, and die at the end. Achilles’ real issue is utilization. Higashide clearly has no idea what to do with him 80% of the time.
>>285225328The issue is precisely the narrative. The only narrative purpose a Noble Phantasm like God Hand has is to be taken down. It's a NP that has no merit for a protagonist, meaning its user can only ever play the role of an antagonist.
>>285225369>Achilles’ real issue is utilization. Higashide clearly has no idea what to do with him 80% of the time.He doesn't get a lot of screen time but when he does it's always great. Penths Interlude for example is where he gets little screen time but uses it pretty well.
>>285225347>>285225375Doesn't help that he's only ever summoned in his worst class and thus has no personality to play off of. He may be a great filter that prevents a ton of servants from being considered high tier, but he's still a berserker with half of his shit sealed.
>>285225369I'd prefer if we got the version of Achilles who tied Hektor's corpse to his chariot and dragged it around for days out of sheer petty spite.
>>285225390This would not make him a better character. It would make him an angrier one. I get it though >>285225386Yep. But he's never going to hit the main stage until he gets a major supporting role. Achilles often feels like someone Higashide has to write around, rather than actually write. Which is why his NPs often disappeared randomly
>>285225117>Divine Construct ArmorSINCE FUCKING WHEN
>>285225414It would make him a more interesting and entertaining character. Achilles is sort of basic in personality. He doesn't have nearly enough charisma to be an entertaining good guy, so all he ever does is say and do the most basic hero things.
>>285225390That would be Berserker Achilles who we sadly never get to see. Also Chiron calls him out for being an asshole for doing that in the Apocrypha manga and I don't quit remember where that was but someone jokingly asks Achilles to not desecrate their corpse if they were to die.
Redpill me.>Is the source material gonna be frequently updated unlike 3rei and other works?>Are they gonna fully adapt all of the existing and complete arcs?
>>285225448>Frequently updatedAbout a LN volume per year>Are they fully going to adaptYes, the LN ends with volume 10, which is the next one to be released. Cour 1 adapts vol 1-5, so Cour 2 will adapt 6-10
>>285225428Seems shallow to me? Achilles dragged Hektor's corpse around because he was rightfully pissed off at his situation. That is not something you would see constantly or even typically. It was purely in the moment and would make no sense out of context. Ironically, that would make him an actually flat character. By the way, Achilles IS petty. Particularly towards Hektor and Apollo, he's spiteful as fuck, even as recently as the Halooween event in FGO. He will refuse Apollo on principle because he hates him.>He doesn't have nearly enough charisma to be an entertaining good guy, so all he ever does is say and do the most basic hero things.Charisma is a bit of a buzzword and isn't created in a vaccuum. It's something most of FGO lacks in reality. Charisma is something you get when the story positions you in an important place. Achilles has never had that. Seems like you're ignoring that Achilles isn't just your extroverted jock. As someone said earlier, he displays a full range of emotions in Apocrypha alone. He cares more about being your archetypal hero than any other heroic spirit shown so far, but like actual heroes he's flawed, and that leads to regrets. Regrets that are both shown on-paper and crystallized in the form of not being able to use his NPs on certain people. Achilles is highly emotional, but there is almost nobody around to bring out that side of him except those two moments in Apocrypha. That leads me back to what I said before; it's a matter of positioning. When the story gives him minimal focus, he has nobody to play off. Nearly every good character in Type Moon is so because they had a good dynamic with another character to work with that was given the spotlight. Achilles lacks this.
>>285225524>Hektor's corpse around because he was rightfully pissed off at his situation.That's not the Achilles we see in Fate. All we ever see is a generic goodie-two-shoes.
Which servant in this war has the highest luck stat?
>>285225541>That's not the Achilles we see in Fate...No shit. Did you see someone drag him into a stupid war and murder his family? No? So why would you expect him to act like this? Much less all the time?>All we ever see is a generic goodie-two-shoes.Only that's false even in his debut novels. He's never been written in such a manner. Just admit you want an edgelord and stop the pretenses already.
>>285225425It's the armour his mummy had Hephaistos made for him. He only gets it when he's in Greece.
>>285225919You can tell it was written by Higashide because it has a pointlessly convoluted requirement to be used
>>285225548It goes Gil (A) = Ishtar (A) = Dumas (A) > Alcides (B) = Prelati (B) > Death (C) = Richard (C) = Hippolyta (D) > No Name Assasin (D) = Thia (D) = Huwawa (D) > Hassan (E)Everyone else either has no defined stat (Watcher) or they can change their parameters however they wish (Enkidu).
>>285220221Is just watching the anime good enough?
>>285226095Higashide has this issue where he likes making really broken-ass Servants, but then realizes that he's making them TOO broken so he adds a bunch of stupid requirements.He also tends to forget that "sure kill" or "absolute" are pretty much meaningless phrases in this series. He keeps doing shit like saying "If so and so conditions are filled, they will ABSOLUTELY do the thing." For instance, take Jack's Maria the Ripper. If it's A) a foggy night and B) the target's a woman, then she will DEFINITELY kill them, no questions asked, without realizing how problematic this sort of nonsense is. So later on when Jack actually manages to get these conditions going, she still ends up getting shanked by Raikou.
>>285226207Thats not really worse compared to what nasu does like Gae Bolg missing just because.
>>285220633>>285220660>character acts like a fucking retard>"ackshyually he's a genius and a potential man"I hate this shit. Show don't tell, either have him do something cool/smart on screen or fuck off.
>>285226246Flat consistently does things that normal magi would have trouble with easy as breathing. He's an idiot savant; you're just a run of the mill idiot.
>>285226360My mom says I'm smart and handsome and so does your mom btw
>>285225713Loli-Jack can be so fucking cool sometimes
Look at this smexy nerd, of course Saber was seduced by such semen demon.
>>285222955They both stole from Chaos Magic and Crowley, so they end up overlapping.
>"HEY, ACHILLES, COME WATCH ME FEED YOUR BOYFRIEND COUSIN'S CORPSE TO THE DOGS">"NOOOOOO, ACHILLES, PLEASE DON'T DESECRATE MY CORPSE, TREAT IT WITH RESPECT PLEASE!"Hektor was a bitch
>>285226466She failed to kill a paraplegic girl who had fallen out of her wheelchair
>>285216956Why do men make best girls again? Is it the content of their character?
>>285226591what a fucking succubus
>>285223427He was trying to reach the Root inside himself by amalgamating animals.
>>285226466>loli>coolPick one and only one
>>285226612That's why I said sometimes
SOON
>>285223487>You realize that level 1 ORT created an entire fanfiction worldYes, precisely because it's heart hadn't been destroyed along with it's heart like Kukulcan herself stated. It could only do that because of that.>It has been stated that no one can fight ORT until humanity EVOLVES TO over the next 100 years.That was Brishizan talking about ORT within the context of Fate humanity, which means nothing to other worlds.
>>285224269Not according to Character Material.>By the way, you can't kill this thing with the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception. Possessing no concept of death, there is no other way but to destroy ORT physically.ORT doesn't adapt to physical damage that has no gimmicks which is the entire reason the Servants were able to damage 70% of ORT's shell in LB7 because the Rayprooof was used on it.>>285224283Within the context of LB7 this is true. Not really an absolute statement though. The entire point is that monsters can only be defeated by monsters:>Nasu: Monsters are monsters because humans can't beat them. That thought begs the question: "What about Camazotz, who defeated ORT once?", but well, he's just a tremendous guy (laughs).
Do you think Saber will unleash his inner fursona in the final battle against whatever - there are plenty of strong servants still around, or it's just something that they created only for FGO?
>>285225347>and every writer likes to use Herk as a punching bag to show how strong their character is.Does it mean that Gil is the only fair match up for him?
>>285223618>It crash lands on planets, advances the life forms on the planet, and then devours the planet once it becomes ripe. Its a monster that even planets can't deal with.Zero evidence of this and enitrely made up. Planet eater refers to ORT's scale (which also applies to a few other bosses in FGO which are also called by a similar moniker), it doesn't regularly eat planets which is the entire reason Daybit or Izcali were required to give ORT a directive so it would destroy Earth and CHALDEAS.
>>285223554>Ars Almadel Salomonis is one of the few abilities that can totally kill ArcueidHe can't do shit to Arcueid with that. AAS can generate a supernova explosion which was something Arcueid was regularly spamming since MBACC given that was literally her Last Arc. Except in her case it's small and heavy since she compresses it to the size of her palm making it far stronger than an actual supernova.
>>285226920FGO only
>All this Tsukihime PowerlevelfaggingI can't wait until Red Garden becomes about stopping Arach from using Akiha Vermillion to destroy the world or something!Also, she framed Kohaku who did nothing wrong
*cough-cough*Do you still remember me?
>>285226994No.
>>285226994Who
And the redrawing of the ending with other franchises begins
>>285226994Yeah, sorry Meteo only wrote your LN to get you in FGO
>>285222903>The single strongest against him would probably be VoyagerGood, more fuel for my Tsubaki x Voyager crackship
>>285226980Can't wait for Akiha wank to happen because "muh plunder solos all fiction", forgetting the part where she got crushed by a mere wall falling on her
>>285226591She looks a little chubby
>>285227065B-B-BUT TRUE DEMONS DUDE!!!!
>>285227037Durarara would be really, really fucking popular if it came out in current day, huh?
>>285226994Yeah, my JC wife.
When will Achilles's boyfriend show up in fate?
>>285226994I've read first novel and it was just awful. It's just so far away from everything that I liked in the series. Honestly there are too many spinoffs like that, I would rather wish for another thing like F/SF or maybe even F/A then another Extella or whatever.
>>285227037Why do JP artists love doing this so much
>>285216956NO!
>>285216956MAKE ME!
>>285226825i wonder how will they fit in weiba's AVENGERS o this one
>>285227073Glorious nippon oni blood folded one thousand times, please understand
>>285227353Probably crowding the fuck out of him like a class photo.
>>285216956This makes my pp very confused
>>285227065I'm okay with specifically Akiha wank because she's my favorite and I like Plunder as a concept, even though it's pretty ridiculously broken if you don't actively nerf it.
>>285227037To be honest the ED is extremely similar to Sugar song to Bitter Step and that ED was also spammed with a million variants
>>285224915
>>285227650Fucking slut
>>285227650I eat hot dogs plain
>>285227744Fairies can't help it
>>285227902I tried drawing something vaguely similar to this a while back, I now have a lot more respect for this sort of angle. Manages to get two different lighting angles without screwing up.
>>285227941Those angles all basically require drawing over 3D models and you either making the models or downloading them.
>>285227713Lmao, subtle kino scene
>>285226994I remember Erice
>>285228000Which programs are good for downloading 3D models for references?
>>285228073I love how her default outfit in the game is extremely lewd.
>>285219426whoashe got range
>>285228000Suppose that makes sense, maybe I should give it a try again.
>>285223126death to glowies
>>285222800Zealot is just a faithfull but naive (and kinda dumb) teenager who tried to fill boots bigger than her (very Artoria like now that I think about it). Even King Hassan would probably be more embarassed than mad at her, it's like seeing a puppy trying to sound impressive.
>This is probably Tadahisa's biggest speaking roleI hope he kills it
>>285228193She's a lewd girl.
>>285228340Cute grumpy nerd
>>285228340Why does she have a kind of similar start to Shirou?
>>285223446It's funny seeing Hansa sperg out like a fanboy because the Burial Agency is supposedly not really popular with the rest of the Church, being a bunch of freak.But Hansa seems like a very open minded guy so I guess it fit.
>>285222570no, warhammer fans are just too autistic to comprehend unreliable narration
>>285228371But she doesn't, no? She's literally travelled to USA to participate in HGW because of hypnosis. The rest are just very superficial similarities, like that they both were saved by sabers.
>>285222740why should he care about the random kids? tine is respectful at least
>>285225270roland solos the round table unless he fights artoria or proto merlin
>>285223331You do realize that when the historical Hashashin killed they always made sure that everyone knew it was them, right? They're not secretive like that. >Not bad but also what the fuck kind of shitty Assassin are you that your main power is all about making yourself bulletproof?just ram them
>>285219426She was the voice of Zero ?Ffffuuuuuuck .... Didn't know thatI love her even more.
>>285228499That's pure delusion and I say this as a Round Table hater
>>285223331100 faces and first are the only worthwhile hassans
>Two shows in the same season where Enoki works with one of the Uchida twins
>Kuzuki and Medea>Souujuurou and AliceWhere's Hansa's Witch? Is Beryl Pepe's?
>>285222740Well Gil did a bath in the grail at the end of F/Z, he's too strongwilled to be controled or go insane over it, but it probably still did a number on his mood and mindset. F/SN Gil is also weirdly horny compared to how he is portrayed latter, but Nasu is pretty open that it's because he changed his mind on how the character should be, so first itteration weirdness.
>>285222740Gil mellows out when he has girl masters. See Fate/Extra and FSF. It's the perk of being the yume king.
>>285228543True Assassin got a pretty good toolkit. He's just a even bigger autist than zealot in his own way
>>285228532The Intoners were basically a who's who for voice actresses.Zero by Maaya UchidaOne by Rie TanakaTwo by Chiwa SaitoThree by Mamiko NotoFour by Ayana TaketatsuFive by Shizuka Ito
>>285228669>Most likely not even a Hashashin>Seeked KH to get killed by him
>>285228666How I wish to see a story where Rin is his master.
>>285228780Fate Zero except Rin is chosen as a Master instead of Tokiomi
How do you get mordred to like you as a servant
>>285228499Profile literally says "one of the best servants to summon in any war">Invincible skin >Top tier abilities >Arondight tier sword >French version of Lancelot except with super powers >Hulk like strength His only weakness is women
>>285228837Be the father figure she never had.
>>285228837Anal.
>>285228837Says in her FGO profile >It is simple how to deal with Mordred. Do not bad-mouth King Arthur. Do not praise King Arthur. Do not treat Mordred like a woman. Also, do not bluntly treat Mordred like a man. Do not behave in a stiff manner. Do not be infatuated with other Servants. Listen to what Mordred has to say. Simple, right?
>>285228882>French version of LancelotThat's Lancelot
>>285228920Roland is more french
>>285228913>Do not treat Mordred like a woman. Also, do not bluntly treat Mordred like a man.what did she mean by this
>>285228933She doesn't want to be treated like some stupid woman, she sees it as an insult like she can't be king, women can't be kings, she wants to be a king like father which is why she can't be a woman, but that also doesn't mean she sees herself as a man. Treating her like a man is also insulting. You can't do either
bruh how is the fate / type moon lore even real, what an absolute clusterfuck. dead apostles? planetaty spirits becoming embodied? earth callling out for help against humans in the future leading to vampires in the past?wtf am i reading
>>285228988so what do you do? You never use pronouns caus if you sleep up once you're dead?
>>285228759Absolutly Halal (?). But also you can't explain it other than being on the spectrum.
>>285229022Just do what Shishigo did>Nasu: "Mordred is a girl, definitely. A man with that sort of outward appearance is... well, I guess a certain kind of person would consider it a prize, anyway. (laughs)">Higashide: Saber was originally going to be male like the legend, but it was thought that having two male characters look feminine, the other being Astolfo (Rider), was too much.--------->Also, she is being supplied with plenty of prana, but she is the type to proactively eat food in order to enjoy the present age without caring about the necessity. Her food preferences lean somewhat towards junk food, and she loves carbonated drinks.>Perhaps due to being summoned with a vague catalyst like a splinter of the Round Table, she has miraculously good compatibility with her Master Shishigou. Though it was not mentioned in the story, she liked Shishigou from the start based on his clothing due to her overflowing rebellious spirit.
>>285228801I think Tokiomi soured his mood by keeping him hidden instead of fighting.
Good episode
What are the chances of we're getting Jester and Nameless Hassan mindbreak/corruption doujins?Or is anything not gacha or chuuba pretty much non-existent in comiket these days.
>>285228933lmao you lose no matter what
>>285228837vigorous anal
>>285229379Only Genshin and Blue Archive doujins
>>285228837The pleasure of being cummed inside (anally)
>>285229263Describes all the episodes so far really
On a scale of 1 to 10 how awful is this for a Fate newfag (only watched Zero and UBW)
>>285229568For now? 4-5. Most weird things get explained pretty quickly.
Who's the better hero creator servant between Hans and Dumas?
>>285229379Only gay doujins, F/SF cast for some reason is mostly gay.
>>285219426It's Uchida? Fucking hell, since I've first heard her years ago I was convinced it was Aoi Yuki.
My HERO Heracles’ 1-minute screentime in 3 episodes…and no, Alcides will NEVER be my hero
I hope that in this scene from the next episode of Fate/Strange Fake, we get silhouettes of the Burial Agency members, including Ciel but if not, oh well.
>>285222486Hansa’s highlight is definitely the fight with Jester. After that, they don’t really do much.
>>285229694He's going to steal the show, then we'll have Heracles as the #1 most requested in the next Famitsu poll, and then nothing will happen because scheduling and production times in TM are some of the most horrendous to ever exist
>>285229924It's not a fight, but I enjoyed how he smugly helped mindbreak Jester as they snitched to her vampire boss.
>>285223252>>285223272>>285218001Read it
>>285230027Can Goetia burn Unlimited Blade Work?
>>285229999Hey, what do you mean by saying the fight between Hansa and Jester was the best battle scene in episode 4 shown at the advance screening
>>285230027Wasn't the Heroic spirits' job when they were alive also to kill off vampires?
>>285230078Don't you mean Episode 3? Episode 4 should be Gil vs Alcides vs Hippolyta, no?
>>285230083Not really a "job", but they did their best when they could. Richard and Saladin teamed up to defeat one at least.
>>285230123Dick wasn't a Heroic Spirit at the time.
>>285230154Nobody's a "heroic spirit when they're alive".
>>285230168Ah I've misread the post you were replying to.
>>285223485>Did nu-kihime actually change anything about the church?Yes, Kiara’s now officially part of the Church.
>>285229837I'm thinking they might skip it entirely. They did skip the scene where Nrvnqsr and Merem are mentioned or are shown in the manga.
>>285230303>>285230303I caught the early screening, and it wasn’t skipped Hansa’s hair sticks up as he roars, shakingeverything around him. It’s just as intense in the anime too.
>>285229837Anything from the manga isn't skipped. They even said they relied on Morii's work to get some details in. It's once we get past vol. 4 (?) where there's no manga that we'll get new things, or cut things.
>>285230154>>285230168There's this weird impression around that servants are so beyond anything humanly possible that only the most absurd freaks could even hope to even make them sweat, but the fact is that most of these heroic spirits were actually able to do all this bullshit in life, and many of them were alive waaay after the age of the gods ended, so they were not too different from modern day practitioners.
>>285230228As expected of the most wholesome woman in Type-Moon
>>285230411Is the manga done, in hiatus, or untranslated?
>>285230411They already skipped a lot of scenes and dialogue in episodes 1 and 2 to adjust the pacing.
>>285230411>nothing is skippedYour Palebro summoning? Birds?
>>285230411>Anything from the manga isn't skippedShut your nigger mouth
>>285230454Hasn't been updated for years. It's always been weirdly paced because they release a volume at a time, but hasn't come out in a long while. Could be that they backlogged it until the first season is done, or maybe the guy is just busy.
>>285230503>>285230516I agree. Dumas’ long flashback scenes were skipped, Nero Chaos’ cameo was cut, and several of the Police Chief’s monologues were also skipped.
>>285230485>>285230516I think anon means it's not skipped completely, just moved around.
>>285225117>meanwhile Herc jobbed to a single Artemis shotHerckeks...
Will we ever get a traditional 7 Masters + 7 Servants battle royale no bullshit or retarded rules?
>>285230565Birds almost definitely got moved since they're too important, but I don't think they'll go back to Palebro getting summoned.
>>285225389What's his supposed best class again? Archer?
>>285230579>actually tanked 2 (TWO) anti-planet NP's and single handedly ensured the Godbreaker Alliance makes it to OlympusHERGODS winning as per usual, even when he's relegated to his absolute worst class
>>285230503>>285230516Tsubakiposter I think it's time to let go...
>>285230565Nope, even more scenes and dialogue got skipped
>>285230565Motherfucker we didn't even get an explanation for Tine's subtlety ring (but they DID include her bumping into a lady and getting ignored).We are skipping a LOT. Quit your doubting.
>>285230641It was Archer two decades ago, lately he got an insane amount of wank for his Saber class so it's probably that nowadays
>>285230650Never.
>>285230584Fate/Zero is that.The fact that it didn't subvert the rules is one of the reasons why it's so newfag friendly.
>>285225245Not only that, his teacher was aslo on Zeus steroids AND even after Achilles finally fucking died he used his death as a catalyst to summon fucking Hektor
>>285230559I'm fairly confident next episode will start with the Dumas flashback as it reveals his name and serves as an introduction to DA mechanics, but someone who saw the early screening can correct me on that.
>>285230677This also explains why she was so surprised by Hombre Cervantes talking to her.
I don’t get why people say Fake Gilgamesh is the strongest. He gets blindsided by Ishtar, gets an early exit in vol. 5, and doesn’t appear again until vol. 9. His treatment is way worse than in Heaven’s Feel, isn’t it?
>>285230650She is my favorite Master, I would sooner die.
>>285230485I wouldn't mind if they would skip useless references and give more time to the characters. I remember that during fight in the police station Caster asked Orlando to summon him, but he refused because if Jester kills Caster then all their team is gone and they can't afford that, but Orlando is expendable, if he'll die someone else can take his place. Or maybe I misremember things and this part wasn't here.
>>285230752>people say Fake Gilgamesh is the strongestthings that never happened
>>285225328>Dude should be functionally immortal apart from like 7-8 servants who could feasibly fight himuh bro, that's literally herkyou either need to be overwhelmingly stronger like gil, bullshit hax like lip or someone, or a team working together like getting him to touch the Arc
why these retards keep skip everything as if they were adapt everu volume lol
>>285230752I haven't seen anyone say he's the strongest. In fact, he was exposed pretty hard by Nine Lives being pure skill countering most of GoB
>>285229102Looks like an after sex picture
>>285230677They're gonna skip A LOT if they're really shoving five volumes into 12 episodes, it's probably gonna be rushed as hell.
>>285230752Strongest to weakestNaked Gil = Mythological Code GilCCC Gil who is beyond classStrange fake Gil who has abandoned hubris = FGO Gil who is fine just chilling aroundZero Gil who doesn't really give too many fucksFSN gil who has given into his humanity
>>285230370Oh God no. Servant posters in particular are going to be insufferable about the Burial Agency being hyped up.
>>285230677why is tine in a wedding dress btw
Wait.Novelchad please tell me Waver Class Masters did fight against the upgraded Police Officers right?
>>285227037>>285227332Iconic EDs tend to be parodied for eons, often long enough that some people don't even know the original, pic being very related. If there's any yuri or hints of it in an anime, you're guaranteed to see a Kannazuki no Miko/agony parody pop up.
>>285230877>Cielfags>Remake-only Cielfags>powerscaling tardsI don't know what's worse
>>285230914No. That was never even a thing even vaguely hinted at.
>>285230908Can you imagine getting wedded to a little girl?
>>285230914Nope. Clan Calatin was last seen facing down against Bazdilot (thunder god mode).
>>285230949no?
They skipped this
>>285230949Gil just keeps winning
>>285230979Fuck off.
>>285230877
>>285230949I can imagine my primordial mom brainwashing me into thinking that she's always been my highschool sweetheart.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-06i5FQ_XZg
>>285230929Bro, every single Ciel is just insanely positive.
>>285231035this better be ntr
>>285231035I hope this is vanilla
>>285225270Given how they uber wank Gilgamesh for being the origin point of all heroes, there's no way the knights of Charlemagne wouldn't get massive buffs against the round table since Chrétien de Troyes used them as a template for the Arthurian myths.
People who saw the early screening are saying the fight between Hansa and the DA is the best battle. How good is the quality exactly? Can someone who saw it first give the details?
>>285231181Would it really work that way if Arthurian myths were actually things that happened in Fate?
>>285231236i think it's supposed to be similar to the CM from way back
>>285231078ciel only deserves amputation mind break content
>>285230752Zero is probably Gil's best showing
>>285231181The wank only applies to Servants the author likes. For example, Caladbolg is the prototype for many holy weapons including Excalibur yet one of them is a "generic" A+ Anti-Army NP then other is the last Phantasm that is used by humanity to defeat entities from another planet.
>>285231313Ciel x Noel fits the best. If you play Remake, you’ll see just how complicated and tangled their relationship is.
>>285231334No Babylonia FGO
>>285231350Caladbolg being Excalibur's prototype was only ever a possibility, and as of Extella, it's denied. Excalibur was designed with inspiration from Teardrop Photon Ray, the main cannon of Mars, an extraterrestrial battleship, after that turned out to be the only weapon of note that had any effect on Sefar.
Why does Gilgamesh have what seems like a spaceship. I don't remember that from FSN, though I remember it was in FZ
>>285231408He jobbed to overwork
>>285231459He killed Tiamat
>>285231429think you're mixing some stuff up there
>>285231394Futa Arc x Ciel
>>285231475After dying to her, and he only did the last hit after everyone weakened her it's not like he soloed her.
>>285231450It's Vimana, a chariot from indian myth
>>285231450It's an indian magic spaceship that he has in GoB.
>>285231450Its a Vimana, an ancient Indian spaceship that can move at the speed of thought. I imagine he needed way more orphan blood to summon, but why would he? there was nothing in FSN worthy of it
>>285231450Pretty sure FSN Gilgamesh was running on power saving mode so couldn't really afford to use his most mana hungry toys.
>>285231512Yuck
>>285231502Nah, Earth was watching the battle of the gods and Sefar, and saw everybody completely get bodied except Mars who held her back for a few minutes. Sefar was impressed enough to take the sword, which had no qualities except destructive power, then Earth said "welp, destructive power it is. A-Ray squad, get on it."
>>285231475Anime only filler. The Manga showed it was actually Ritsuka and Mash kek
Out of more than 12 Servants, the only ones eliminated are True Assassin Ishtar and Archer Gilgamesh. No Masters got eliminated, and I’m wondering how they managed to handle all of them in just volume 1 are we really going to see ORT show up or something?
>>285231631The manga isn't canon, it was him in the game too.
>>285231580Nah, his IA means he never needed the orphans at all. He just took their energy because he was an asshole. His stats were weaker because Kotomine was a shitter master than Tokiomi.
>>285231662New canon sorry Gilkek you have to steal feats from someone else
>>285231631The fuck is that? Does Tiamat take on some kind of weird new final form? What does the front look like?
>>285230877Isn't Ciel their strongest member?
>>285231656Jack, Pale Rider, and Huwawa aren't "dead" but they're all out of the running.Prelati, Dumas, and Watcher are all noncombatants to begin with.Alcides is doomed, Hippolyta's job will be done once he's down, Zealot is definitely going to end up killing herself, leaving Gilgamesh, Enkidu, Richard, and Sigma for the final, final, extra-final battles. I can guess how it'll go down from there.
>>285231745Second weakest, actually. And the weakest is a noncombatant who's only around for his legendary prayer skills, so weakest of the actual fighters.
>>285231656It's Narita, probably no one would die at all except really bad guys.
>>285231745There are seven members in the Burial Agency, including Ciel, and among them, the ones predicted to be stronger than Ciel are probably Director Narbarek, Andrei, and Kiara. But most of the BA members are probably stronger than Ciel, except for Mr. Dawn.
>>285231656>are we really going to see ORT show up or something?No? That was gone in the first chapter. We should see some kind of final big bad grail beast or something for Sigma to Lancer.
>>285231656I haven't read the LN but I have to wonder what the fuck even happens in it if no one died in 8 volumes with such a massive cast.
>>285231771>Zealot is definitely going to end up killing herselfshe needs to be impregnated by Sigma first
>>285231631Fun fact Ritsuka used the same Erosion dagger from Case Files.
>>285231771Richard is gonna do war crimes to take out the other major players then Dumas will use Masquerade on Orlando to turn the guy into a hero.
>>285231852A lot of things actually. Narita is just incapable of making his cast smaller, so people who should be dead by now(and often actually fucking died) just come back for more.
>>285231789Not in the Remake. Remake Ciel is stated to be a special exception among the Burial Agency. She is also stated to be the strongest vampire hunter.
>>285231723Turas Realta also gave Gilles a powered up version of his Zero monster in Orleans
>>285231631Why is Tiamat a Toriko boss now?
>>285231825Ciel claims Andrei as possibly stronger than her. And that still remains to be seen, because so far Ciel is the only one who soloed three Ancestors. She is the only BA member with that under her belt.
>>285231953Nasu, I beg you, please keep your power level boner in check for Red Garden and keep it small scale
>>285231953In Remake, Ciel actually says that Andrei is stronger than her. Kiara’s the strongest in any universe, so that’s no surprise. She can’t be stronger than the Director, so she’s likely weaker than her, but I’m not sure how she stacks up against Agaleon or Noi.
>>285231953Special doesn't mean stronger, only unique.
>>285231953Isn't Van Helsing the best vampire hunter?
>>285231988In the original, Narbarek and Loreli soloed DAAs as well, but seems Nasu shifted that into Ciel. Though most of Ciel's thing is her relying on tanking shit with her immortality, so if you take that away and just take her powerlevel as a massive buster canon with good durability, it would make more sense that the others could be stronger powerlevel-wise.
>>285232004>Nasu, I beg you, please keep your power level boner in check for Red Garden and keep it small scaleBro there is Satsuki route/ DAA Dr Arach in the Red GardenThe scale of Red Garden will probably be bigger than Blue Glass Moon.
>>285232016>Kiara’s the strongest in any universeI see Kiara as only relative to the DAA on average. Something already foreshadowed in MBAACC where Ciel states the cessation of all life on the planet must have been the work of either a 27-DAA class vampire or a True Demon.>She can’t be stronger than the DirectorI don't think the director is a combatant in Remake. And the only possible reason I can see Narbareck being stronger is if she has El-Nahat as a weapon. As stated by Arcueid Ciel is the peak if human potential, there is no human stronger than her in raw specs.
>>285232004Can't wait for the "Kohaku did nothing wrong" reveal.
>>285232090At least Kohaku will still be fucked up and not get whitewashed with Arach taking over his negative traits, right?R-right?
>>285232090What? The scale will obviously be less. Satsuki should be like the same level as slutty loli nun or a bit higher. Nasu would have to go way over the top to make her anything major.
>>285232127Her and her sister route will got cut this time
>>285232016>Kiara’s the strongest in any universeNo? She's only strong as a Beast and even the she is never considered to be the gold standard unlike Goetia
>>285232064I don't think so given how much Nasu has been hyping Ciel. He even had Ciel saving the galaxy in the Servantverse because as he stated "if Ciel were to show up in the Servantverse she ought to be able to save the galaxy at least a couple of times". Also Ciel is definitely not hard-carried by her immortality, that's not only a bonus. She is a monster all around, yes, even pure skills. She literally reached the level of a sword saint, being able to sever souls through sheer skills in only 6 years of training.
>>285232064The DAA El-Nahat you’re talking about has already been dealt with in Remake. Narbarek will probably be using it as a weapon, just like in the Original.
>>285232138>True Demon possessed Akiha
>>285232143Heaven's Hole was stronger than Beast III/R.
>>285232143She's the only Beast which successfully breaks two Fate mc though.
>>285232138Sacchin is already a freak of nature and you're forgetting Akiha
>>285232168Nasu definitely ranked her up massively compared to the original where facetanking was kind of her main powerset, but she still dies a lot.
>>285232138Satsuki had DAA potential in the OG verse iirc, her route might go insane
>>285232138The early script for the Satsuki route, which was scrapped 25 years ago, had Ciel and Arcueid as enemies, with the story featuring a battle against their full-power True Roa. If Dr. Arach, presumably from the DAA, also gets involved, it would obviously become the biggest-scale route in Tsukihime. Nasu even said that the Satsuki route was originally intended to be a battle-focused story, similar to UBW, so it’s not really surprising.
>>285231631The manga makes Enuma Elish equivalent to a Nammu Duranki beam powered by seven grails so if anything it's an upscale
>>285232182>>285232247Satsuki is someone with insane potential at being a dead apostle, not that she's insanely strong to start. At best, Nasu might have Arach do something to her and get her up to Vlov level (minus the idea blood).Inversion Impulse will likely get a buff, but I doubt it will be that much. Oni still need to be weak enough to have been hunted by the Nanaya. I don't think Kouma is suddenly going to be breaking mountains in half or shit.
>>285232265Also had Roa and Chaos working together, right?
>>285232315I don’t understand why people can’t let go of hope for Nero Chaos.He got skipped not only in Tsukihime Remake but even in the Strange Fake anime, so stop holding onto false hope.
>>285232348Because Nasu updated him with FGO and the Wandering Sea Fate version. Wandering Sea magi are now all monsters within themselves, so add that to his DAA version and the DAA glowup and he'll be pretty insane.
>>285232348Isn’t he theorized to be one of the new characters in Remake? Even though he was shown being killed?
>>285232348He's iconic and they're shafting him for what? Showing off faggy Vlov? His powerlevel not being high enough? Nasu wanting to write him in FGO as a human?
>>285232381I can't wait for Nrvnqsr to open it's coat and summon Albion, Curruin and Tiamat
>>285232381>Because Nasu updated him with FGO and the Wandering Sea Fate version.He got a single appearance anon, even Sion got COSMOS DENIED after everything she had done for Chaldea.Let it go.
>>285232388There is no question Nrvnqsr was in Remake.There are are at least 5 clear hints of it.
>>285232446Because that's just a teaser of him, anon. The wandering sea is outside of time, so it's unaffected by anything that Goetia or Marisbury did.
>>285232498The point wasn’t whether he was in it at all, but that was he shown being killed, and that he’s taking the form of a different character.
>>285232559>shown being killed????
>>285232446Fabro wasn't part of Lost Belt 0 but he still showed up there to greet Sion. Funnily enough Fabro told Sion there are no wandering sea gates outside the Lost Belts (referring to Lost Belt 0).
>>285232208>successfullyShe lost both times.
>>285232592Well she won once but what happens in digital space doesn't count.
>>285232570Vlov killing the dog
>>285232763
>>285232793>One of his beast's dying means Nrvnqsr is dead
>>285232886>things that were never saidVampires don't die when they're killed anon.
>>285232901Then why would it matter that he was shown being killed?
>>285231656Wait, Jack didn't die?
>>285232956Didn't get an explicit death scene.
>>285232886Pretty sure Arcueid also implies he died, I think it varies between translations though.
>>285232956Volume 9 revealed Thia still has a command spell. Jack must still be around accordingly; the command spells get reclaimed by the Grail if your servant is killed.
>>285232956Jack kind of runs off and hasn't shown up since. Given the whole merging with flat thing, the most likely answer to Flat returning to life is FlatJack merging with Thia or something. Though I kind of hope Flat remains dead. Narita should bring some consequence to the story.
>>285233015>the command spells get reclaimed by the Grail if your servant is killed.That doesn't sound right, isn't it an important part of these wars that masters can make new contracts? That's why they must fear being killed even after losing their servants and must seek church protection. Losing the command spells would make all that null and void.
>>285233130Didn’t Kotomine lose his Command Spells in FZ, only to get more straight from the Grail again?
>>285233130>>285233157I think it's not 100% consistent but command spells are supposed to poof with the servant and you get them back if you make a new contract. That's what happens when Shirou loses saber in HF
>>285233157No, he took the command spells from his dead dad. The supervisor always inherits all the unused spells from previous wars.
>>285233234I thought it was>Assassin died>Kotomine loses his CS>Gilgamesh presses him>Kotomine regains his CS>Kotomine kills Tokiomi>Kotomine takes CS from father's dead body
>>285233279Checking again, seems I was wrong. Could've sworn some CSs showed up on his hand before he took them from Risei.
>>285233350Or wait, I am right? I know it's the wiki, I just don't want to scour the episodes.
