Do you like self-inserting into anime characters?
>>285243682That doesn't sound like healthy behavior
>>285243682Men do self insert as high value attractive males when they make giga chad memes and edits.
>>285243682I would self insert into Rishe
I self insert as a 2'11" lalafell with a tiny penis while all the big tall au'ra ladies think im so cute, they make love with me.
I do, yes. I do like self inserting into anime charactors.
>>285243682>Why do men not want to self-insert as attractive, high-value males?How about some direct testimony from /a/ itself?
Yes, I do self insert. Any issues?
>>285243682God Rishe is so beautiful...
Where is Peter Grill for the horny self insert?Where is the B-rank evil faced papa for the wholesome self insert?Where is the revenge comedian for edgy evil self insert?
>>285243682Yes I'm male and i like to self insert as the female, why?
>>285243682NoI don't want to do it and every romance with an MC written with the intent that I do is actually just not a good story, because there's no real connection
>>285243682there is bunch of reincarnated as a nobleslop though
>>285243682The reality is that men who look like right, self-insert as the female on the left. Society has failed men.
>>285244166He wears earrings, so of course they think he is a fag.
>>285243682I like imagining what I would do differently in the protagonist's position. Full on substituting them with yourself is very cringeworthy though and stories designed for it are all the worse.
>>285243682man is a realistic creature, he knows he's nothing special and nobody cares about him. while every woman lives in some fucking fantasy world where she's a queen and everybody owes her everything.
>>285244402Exactly so
>>285243682I self insert as UB
>>285243682because it's mostly a feminine thing.(Healthy) men typically identity with ideals and virtues, rather than appearance. Which is why you have the meme about all races calling Goku "literally me".
>>285243682Self-inserting and living vicariously through an existing character are two very different things. The only time self-inserting is really possible is when you're the POV, like in Douki-chan, most Xitter manga, and outright character x reader fanfiction.Neither Senpai nor Rishe are self-inserts, they're characters you're meant to live vicariously through. Author self-inserts are a different matter, but they're rarely protagonists (with some exceptions like post-haircut Kazuya) and you can usually spot them a mile away.
>>285243682I self insert as oraoraoraora best bro(el retardo)
>>285244402Yes, that's the reason why a lot of main characters in romcoms are made to be pathetic.
>>285244498But that's insanely frustrating and makes me stay away from the genre as a whole.
>>285243682Just a reminder that under no possible circumstance you can say "you self-insert", you CAN self-insert into every character in existence but that's up to each individual.
>>285244537https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorthandhttps://www.cdc.gov/autism/signs-symptoms/index.html
>>285244166>4 of those posts wereAnd yes, fuck that guy, I've seen way better chad characters than this faggot
>>285244166>>285244606>4 of those posts were mineI was so distracted laughing I made a grammatical error
>>285244523Sadly that's what attract the most readers, on top because of the main character's personality they can milk the manga as much as they want because that kind of fag doesn't make a move.
>>285244166And one last thing: he looks like the male equivalent of a bimbo
>>285243682At least compare two MCs in the same genre or similar setting.
This is the only self insert in existence... man I miss the old gantz forums.
>>285244166Fujo do same thing to beautiful female character
>>285243916>self inserting into BAN GUNHAMy patriot...
>>285244907I think the difference is, flamboyant pretty-boys are repulsive and offensive to men. Whereas women that hate beautiful women are just jealous.
>>285244966I'm a guy and I don't feel anything towards pretty boys like the one from that show, I dunno how other anons get such a visceral reaction to such a k-pop-like pretty boy.
>>285243682Would you insert yourself into rishe?
>>285243682Because guys want to just be guys, girls have problems with vanity and >>285244166 is what girls want guys to be
>>285245000Sorry anon, you have the gay.
>>285243682Women dream of self-improvement, men dream of the world debasing itself for them.
>>285243682Only did that during my teenage days with Dark Schneider. I tried hard to be like him in real life too
>>285245046Nah, I'm already married, I can't be gay or my wife is gonna kill herself.
>>285243682No. In fact, I get really bored when I see bland protagonists, devoid of personality, that you're supposed to be able to project onto.
>>285243682I only self-insert as a jobless/freelancing tired oji-san.
>>285245000In a sense, they're undermining masculinity, because they're designed with femininity in mind to trigger a specific reaction in women, thus defined by it.
>>285245105Well that's the kind of guys that are popular in Japan, so it must be culture shock.>masculinityDon't let them know that macho guys are something only gays like over there, a japanese girl into macho guys is 1 in a 1.000.000.
>>285245105I think they're just mad pretty boys get the cute girl instead of high testosterone balding men
>>285245172>Don't let them know that macho guys are something only gays like over there,Of course, and i think that's just the opposite side of the problem.Women just rarely design reasonable men in the middle, because they don't really want reasonable fantasy
>>285245000He looks totally lifeless and with no expression
>>285244166Guys have their own version of what an attractive, high-value male is. That sure as hell isn't it.
>>285245287Sinbad is one of themNo homo
>>285245281Not really
>>285245218You'd be wrong. Pretty boys are just obviously gay so they send danger signals to straight men.
>>285245275>Women just rarely design reasonable men in the middleJust like how men rarely design reasonable women, even the "average girl" is pretty as hell if it's something aimed at guys, you rarely see an ugly harem member in romcoms after all, and add to that how the prettiest girl in the school or the most popular one or the coldest bitch is one of the heroines.Both sides got unreasonable fantasies because they don't want someone "on their same level", they want someone better than them, even girl and boyfailures are super cute/hot.
>>285243682not ideally but I do tend to sympathize with the protagonist.
Fiction desu, not that deep. Anyways...
>>285245447>you rarely see an ugly harem member in romcoms after all,"plain childhood friend" is fairly popular.It's also not really common for guys to outright (publicly) entertain ugly &/ fat girls, which is why you barely see them outside of comedy characters
>>285245447Because ugly girls don't sell and ugly girls can get guys IRL and the whole point of anime is to embrace perfection.Because guess what? Real Life fucking sucks and it's fucking ugly out there.Also women have tons of other media for themselves, anime and manga are one of the last pieces of media to actually appeal to men>but shoujo and joseiA much smaller market than Shonen and Seinen
>>285245420That's wishful thinking, pretty boys are the least gay of men.
>>285245547>Grand BlueIsn't his first page showing him being a drunk asshole with the boys?
>>285245470Would you sympathize with an Indian protagonist
>>285245553That's not ugly, you utter retardHoly FUCK you are slow
>>285245682Manami is the ugliest girl of all time.
>>285245682Yeah, that's why i explicitly labeled her as "plain". And then explained why ugly girls don't make sense in a rom com
>>285245553Yeah but girls like Manami are still pretty cute, they just look plain because everyone else is super pretty.>>285245562Did you just mention shoujo and josei but not yaoi? You know, Otome road, that place filled with yaoi everywhere, hell, ask any japanese otaku and they will tell you how hard is to find yuri in comparison to yaoi, you got complete shelves of yaoi in random stores while yuri is a small portion. Women also got a tight leash on anime, from shows for little kids to shows for adults, beautiful men are there to get their cash.
>>285245661Is it a hot girl?>>285245682You have to draw them really ugly on purpose>>285245717I was referring more to demographics anonShonen, Seinen, Shoujo, and Josei are demographics bud
>>285245447Harems are about casting a wide net so that some reader somewhere will find a girl they like and root for her it has nothing to do with unreasonable fantasies because you are very likely to find half the cast unattractive simply because of different tastes.
>>285245735Makes sense indeed, while there are some men that read shoujo and josei, there is a far bigger number of women that read shonen and seinen.
>>285245740He's complaining about women not being fat or having acne scars or something>>285245766>there is a far bigger number of women that read shonen and seinen.Well to be fair, there's plenty that blur the line, and they're also just much bigger and more organized markets overallIf I'm not mistaken most shoujo and josei magazines are monthly right?Even Sailor Moon was monthly
>>285243682No, just watch the fucking show. Self insert fags are pathetic.
>>285245792Yeah, also it's no mistake to say that studios actually aim for the female gaze, they have been doing that since the 60s, but on the reiwa era it has been too shameless, there is a reason why some anons are concerned whatever jump in the future will truly be a magazine for young boys to enjoy and not just some fujobait central magazine filled with stories that middle schoolers won't like but their fujo onee-san will.
>>285245661Yes why wouldn't I? I like some bollywood films. Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto
Otaku girls love Ikemen, normal girls also like them but would settle down for a plain MC if he's fleshed out enough. I think with men the same thing happens but men are more down to fuck anything, from plain to hot and even ugly sometimes.
>>285245880What about the otaku girls who like femboys?
>>285245867We'll have to wait and see, thankfully the manga industry is hyper competitive and somebody will rise up to correct the issue>>285245880If you're going to do an ikemen, do it rightAlice from Iruma-Kun is probably the best kind of Ikemen character out there because he has an actual personality and character
>>285245890They're a minority within the fujoshi group.
>>285245980>>285245890>They don't know
>>285245920Ikemen are rare, but were way more common a decade or two ago. I agree about adding personality to Ikemen and not just leave them as permanently bedroom eyed totems, even back then that was an issue. Many times you could read manga that had a pretty boy being just pretty and doing nothing else. When they were the protagonist though, they had all the space required to shine.
>>285243682Self inserting is genuinely an utterly alien concept to me.I legitimately cannot wrap my head around the fact that some people unironically live vicariously through a fictional character.It sounds like something made up to me but its obviously very real.Its like when i remember that a huge chunk of the world's population cannot imagine an apple in their minds.The more i learn about the hoi polloi the more i question if perhaps i am defective...I have so many questions for people who self insert.If the character gets punched, do you guys feel the pain?if the character says they are hungry, does your stomach starts growling?Self inserting is such a bizarre concept to me.
I only self insert for jrpgs
>>285246118>/r/iamverysmart
>>285246118Eh. When I read Lord of the Rings, I identified with Frodo but I did not think I was Frodo... Likewise, when I read Fruits Basket, I identified with Tohru and was happy when she was happy and sad when she was sad. Isn't it natural to sympathize with the protagonist's story?
>>285246082Are you talking about men pretending to be women?>>285246118I don't think they feel the same sensorial information the MC is feeling, I think they just identify with the MC and go beyond that, they start living as the MC in their fantasy world in their minds, whenever they daydream.
I think you'd have to be very dull to successfully self-insert into a character in the first place.
>>285244166It's just yurifags seething about no yuri.A "prince" girl and no yuri? Unthinkable.
>>285245105>ugliness is masculine and beauty is feminine, any man women are actually attracted to is therefore feminine and subversive and badI'll never understand this mentality desu. Men like attractive women, women like attractive men. It's so simple and yet people of both sexes get so upset over it.Most pretty boys are masculine. A tall stature, sharp jaw, defined Adam's apple, inverted triangle frame, long eyelashes, long limbs, big hands, and so on are pretty universally associated with men. Something like picrel is a good example; you'd never be able to mistake the man for a woman and vice versa. The masculinity of anime men designed for women is just as exaggerated as the femininity of anime women designed for men. It's all the same.
>>285246218Look at Mr. Interesting here posting in 4chin.
>>285243682It's called vicarious entertainment.
>>285243682Yes, but not as self-inserts.also women
>>285244166>hetslopthat's a yuricuck underman from r/traaaaaaans, nothing to do with /a/
>>285244166Guy is normal>REEE SELF INSERT!!!Guy is handsome>HE'S A FAG!!! FUJO BAIT!!! HETSLOP!!!Kill all yuritards.
>>285243682Hey is this the weak pathetic fragile basement loser faggot thread?>>285244166>>285244392This is actually what a good deal of young Shibuya-style males look like these days. Or at least it's a fictional idealization of such, but it's not uncommon. Male earrings have more loaded connotation in the west, and unsurprisingly the fragile basement types are also incapable of really comprehending that they're watching media that wasn't made for /their/ cultural sensitivities. The hypocrisy never ends.
>>285247137"basement types" make up a small portion of this userbase anon you're more likely to find guys that visit the gym regularly, have a college degree and don't live with their parents than anything else
>>285247240Wait shit, you're Innit. Fuck. Forget I replied to you.
>>285247137Hot take: Japan's idea of chad and East Asia's idea in general looks fucking gay.
>>285247240>make up a small portion of this userbase anon >you're more likely to find guys that visit the gym regularlyThat was true in my day. It seems a lot less likely today. Regardless, it's irrelevant, because I wasn't talking about *the majority* of this site, I'm talking about the overly vocal minority of actual fragile basement losers, who are the ones who are always making the site a cesspool for anyone else, thinking their utterly moronic, inept, pure resentment-fueled rage at everything that exists matters for shit. The ones who can't tolerate a male character that isn't a boring slug they can "self insert" into because their self esteem is so terminally in the toilet they can't even begin to imagine not being a loser. They actually feel like they're getting "cucked" (and that's the word they'll use to utterly insane degrees regardless of how retarded it is) when they see a female anime character with a handsome male who isn't a schlubby quiet autist.>>285247257>you're InnitI have no idea what the fuck that means.
>>285243792Gigachad edits are more like anti-self-inserts. They are created ironically, with the gigachad obliviously and easily possessing all the high-value traits the viewer doesn't have.
>>285243682Dissociation. If a guy's too much of a gigachad, the average otaku will dissociate from him because they can't live up to the image that gigachad brings, like a muscular physique, pretty face, and charismatic personality. That's why most male isekai protagonists must be a average nerdy outcasts. It's easier to self-insert as when you're basically already one, and it's so that whenever they are rewarded with beautiful women, power and admiration for doing the bare minimum of being nice, you can imagine yourself in that position, as if you would do the same thing if you were magically isekai'd into a fantasy world.
>>285243682>>285244166There's loads of self inserts for guys that are attractive and not losers within their stories.
>>285245047>Women dream of self-improvementNo? Those stories don't have the FemMC going from zero to hero. Usually they're already in high standing in some way. The idea of being a worthless bum suddenly climbing to the top of the foodchain is a male fantasy.
Men don't ask for much.There. This mind-crushing phenomenon has been explained.
>>285244166I don't do self insertion but male characters with an ambiguous look are an obvious turn off for me. Maybe it's because of cultural differences that I can't appreciate it but that's just my personal view.
>>285247137>Male earrings have more loaded connotation in the westHuh, never came across that. I live in the U.S. and tons of dudes wear earrings. Not even in a flamboyant way either, they're conventionally masculine guys.
>>285247945All throughout the 90s and 2000s in the US, an earring in the right ear was a homosexual signal. For whatever reason, a single left earring was an acceptable heterosexual fashion. A pair of earrings was practically unheard of except on actual crossdressers/drag queens and maybe the occasional glam rock weirdo.
>>285245000Because Kpop style pretty boys look too metrosexual. They wear cosmetics that would be considered feminine. In contrast the western idea of a pretty boy still lean to masculine look yet they're beautiful.
>>285247980I remember Carlin made a joke about this, about how they stopped being risque as fashion. That was in '96.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PVThNfwJXY
The otaku-kun MC should be 190 cm MINIMUM
>>285248133And the bulge of his 30 cm penis should be visible at all times.
>>285248178I just said 190 cm minimum and I mean minimum
>>285246744I'm baffled. What about this warranted deletion?
>>285243682It is just a japanese style of self insertion that is very specific to male targeted romance. If the guy looked very attractive by japanese standards then it would not be male targeted romance anymore since women would also be interested in it. And come to think of it male targeted romance is far less prevalent in western media and is often not a primary theme.
>>285248594Male targeted romance used to be much rarer in Japan too.
>>285244166I remember this thread, I thought it was BL shit too lmao, imagine watching 2 guys making out. fucking fag behavior
I like to self insert as the MC of gag animeIt makes me feel funny and lighthearted
>>285248735Hang yourself
>>285243682I self-insert into every anime I watch. The ones that really hit me are usually depressing anime, and I feel the same as the MC when watching them.I wish I could be Isekai'd.
>>285248750no man ur just a faggot>b-but its a girlit presents itself as a man so ur ultra gay.come out of the closet already lol
>>285248754do you self-insert as the villainess too?
>>285248762Now make an excuse for why traps and femboys aren't gayGo ahead, I'm waiting
>>285245880There are some naunces in the MC's character design and how he's portrayed that can change him from a plain MC to one that girls thirst after.
>>285243682I have never even feel a character is relatable in any way, they're either interesting or not
i like that isekai anime for women is always they transform into a villainess and they can just be a rich asshole to everyone
>>285248767If the show is female-lead with a suffering MC, I usually think I could save her if I was in that world.
>>285248803Do you even the billions of saint novels out there?
>>285248868I only read saintess mango where they get raped sorry
>>285245287>Unironically using the term "high-value male"
>>285244166men have extremely well defined meaning of "chad" and it includes not taking it up the ass as the basic one. that one looks like he does.
>>285248923yeah lmao imagine thinking a fag using ear rings or being 'well kept' is chad in any way lol.The ideal male is a grizzly unkept BEAR, when he enters rooms he fills them with HIS STENCH, his pheromones. He doesnt care about looks because looks are for faggots, violence is the way to solve this.This is the ideal male I strive to be, not some faggy looking retard/
>>285245682Regardless of whether Manami is ugly, she's still a manipulative, entitled bitch. She plays the part of the perfect domestic future-houswife because she believes she's owed a relationship with Kyosuke due to being his childhood friend, and all of her kindness and commitment is just a thin veneer obfuscating the fucking snake in the grass waiting to gobble up what she believes she rightfully deserves. There's a reason she's the only haremette who didn't get a what-if ending. It's because she was actually the villain of the story the entire time. Fuck that cunt.
>>285243682Do you like vehicling into anime vehicles? The fuck you mean vehicleing? Literally anything action relating to a vehicle? Driving is vehicleing? Repair is vehicleing? Talking about vehicles is vehicleing? "Personally, I like vehicling into a Mazda GTX. Really makes you feel like you're in the 90s." You didn't say anything! You're just sticking -ing on a random noun and collectively pretending that this is an actual action you can take like walking or swinging and that you totally know what you mean by it and totally understand what someone else means when they say it.
>>285248948retard
>>285243682I love harem anime and I have never ever self inserted
>>285248960That's because you're not a sad faggot. Good job, anon.
>>285248938This doesn't work as sarcasm because there are faggots who unironically think thisIn fact they're ITT right now
>>285248762>>285248770Still waiting you little bitchmade punk
>>285248993are you stupid? if it looks like a man im not attracted because im not gay, simple as, why are you bringing other kind of degen faggots in? fucking retard.
>>285243682Can I get a female self-insert who's mean, bitchy, abusive and a non-virgin?
>>285249006And if it looks like a woman but has a dick?
>>285249015>non-virgindropped
>>285244210Vaginal sex with Rishe for the purpose of procreation x7
>>285249029>virgins on /a/ fuming when a fictional character isn't as pathetic as them You love to see it.
>>285248938Yummy. Prime bara fuckmeat
>>285243682It’s not a matter of whether I like it or not, it’s like asking if I like to get hard over anime girls. It’s a natural mechanism and you need to be a chronically bored pseudointellectual midwit to overthink it. Seriously, if you’re one of the people here who call others "self inserters" and take pride in your rejection of the natural mechanism of empathy, you need more testosterone.And you’re also a fucking newfag. https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/%22self%20inserter%22/order/asc/
>>285243682One thing I notice about romance anime for men is that the male characters are either going to be>losers (eg senpai-kun)>clueless, asexual faggots (eg shirou)>LITERALLY ME sigma cringelords (eg 8man)Why can't there ever be a male-targeted romance with a normal or ambitious male lead? Why can't you just take a male character from an action/adventure series and put him into a romance? Is that really such a strange concept?
>>285248938Indeed, using earrings is not chad in anyway. Not like a faggot like you would understand.
>>285245287I would use the term "dashing"
>>285244166>man with ear ringsThey’re right. Anime is dead
>>285248938>self projecting this hardNo idea of chad is optimal in every aspect
>>285248915You should follow your advice.>>285249050>Faggot who likes fornicating whores calling ayone pathetic.Kekarooo!
>>285244166Those are yuri trannies, they’re on your side lol
>>285249189>fornicating And you wonder why you'll never get a shred of pussy. Poor little incel.
>>285249129Action man would get the girl right away and also wouldn't put up with shit so no drama afterwards. No story to tell there.
>>285249129>Shirou >asexualHe plows girls left and right. That's not even headcanon, that's just the story of Fate.
>>285249050>>285249241If you're not Innit then you're awfully similar to him and just as obnoxious
>>285249041I wish we had a rishe thread
>>285249271I don't know who the fuck that is. I just like laughing at loser incels who think their warped, pathetic world view is worth more than the cum stains they leave in their crusty old socks. The irony of wastoid degenerates expecting to be graced with women of only the utmost purity is hilarious to me.
>>285243682hes just like moi! a lolicon onichan of injustice!
>>285249129The series called Tune In to the Midnight Heart. But that MC isn't normal, the appeal is that he avoids the things you mentioned and is outwardly attractive.
>>285243682How do you self insert?
>>285249241>>285249335Here's the thing: you're not a woman, and you're not even politically progressive. You're an average frustrated, vaguely centrist male. So the question is, why are you bending over backwards to argue against sexual purity and abstinence? The answer is obvious to everyone but you: you can never, ever get a female virgin, but your petty brain refuses to accept that you missed out. So it warped reality in your mind to make you think that that grapes are sour.Female virginity IS better by every metric known to man. This isn't folklore or "inceldom" or whatever else you want to call it. Study after study shows that the number of sexual partners a woman has over 1 is inversely proportional to her lifetime happiness.
>>285249377If you're big enough you just tuck your dick between your legs and use your fingers to push the tip in and out of your asshole.
>>285249241If you found my post funny why did you report it, hmmm?
>>285249404I didn't. But I laughed my ass off when I saw it got removed.
>>285249424Sure thing, Sanjeet. Your brain is capable of fooling you, but unfortunately it's not capable of fooling anyone else.
Women are sex objects, of course people prefer first hand property
>>285244392>>285249139>>285249142Guys wearing earrings has been normal in East Asia for a while. Do you not know anything?
>>285249532I don’t like it even on women. Why would you drill through your own body just for an accessory?But it’s even worse on men because it’s also fucking gay
>>285249129>clueless, asexual faggots (eg shirou)At least try to pretend to know what you're talking about.
>>285246539Pretty boys are not femboys. The former are loved by women, the latter are hated by women.>>285245420>>285245621In my experience pretty boys tend to be fuckboy manwhores.
>>285249199What the fuck do you mean? What side is that? The truth of the matter is, yurifags and self-inserters/haremfags are essentially the same at the core.
I insert as a side character if I like the setting.
>>285244166I think men have the right to dislike characters who look like rampant faggots created for the sole purpose of appealing to women. That's why I never really liked Gojo from JJK.
>>285249750If that upsets you then you aint a man lil bro
>>285249782It doesn't upset me, I just don't see any appeal in those types of characters.
>>285249662The term "self inserter" was invented by yuricucks
>guy still coping about "USED GOODS R NORMAL, UR AN INCEL"lmao. why would I want slut in my wish fullfillment fiction, retard? stop bringing your westoid rotten world views in my anime, normalization of sluts is only a thing in the west
>>285249647>>285249269No he isn't, you stupid fucking faggots. Shirou is the prototypical clueless everyman haremlead the girls all fight over, while he acts dense and oblivious. The fact that he technically ends up together in various routes doesn't magically negate that. Also, everything Nasu's ever written is complete shit, and Fate fans' opinions aren't worth anything.
>>285249841dude shirou literally fucks all the heroines before the end a repeadetly... dont tell me ur an animeonly tertiary? lLMAO
>ctrl f "incel">4 matchesReddit thread
>>285249686Kind of similar, I selfinsert in everything I watch as a fat guy living close to the main cast and imagine the girls always coming to my house.
>>285244280(You) are ghey
>>285248915ropeplay is really hot
>>285248943this isn't the incest thread
>>285249199I posted a lot of those and I'm not a yurifag.I loved the idea of a romance with a prince girl but then they make the male lead some fucking lifeless bimbo
>>285251209Why the fuck would you make repeat posts in a thread complaining about one singular thing
>>285243682That's for losers. I want to aspire to be the chad, not pretend to be him.
>>285243682I self insert only if MC has massive titts and a huge dick
>>285251348Uh...sure bro. Whatever you "say", hah.
>>285243682Only japs do this though
>>285251414>he doesn't larp as a japFake ass weeb
>>285243682I'm neither brown, retarded nor transexual, so no, i don't
>>285249199>troons don't self-insertare you brain damaged?
>>285243682I self insert when the guy acts right and looks like he lifts and eats something other than a lunchable.
>>285251327Beats me, I was just discussing throughout the thread and I guess I got singled out
>>285251460But the people who seethe at self-inserting are all three of those. Just look at ACK.
>>285243682I used to, it was fun seemingly discovering things alongside the mcs within my series's read. I don't know why, but I eventually stopped, with me finding more interest in watching and understanding my read fictions with me acting as an outside observer.
>>285251477They do (as women exclusively of course) but will never admit to it because they were all anti self insert schizos in the pastOr they admit to it but say only self inserting as men is bad (those are at least more honest about their ideology than the others)
>>285244166>earrings in BOTH earsyeah he's gay
>>285247240>"basement types" make up a small portion of this userbase anonYou may be right, but this place is rife with uncultured third-worlders. >>285247390Or perhaps it's your perception that isn't the norm. There are more East Asians than Americans by a large margin.
OP is a massive faggot.Post actual male self-inserts.
>>285251793have you considered that the biggest self-inserters in the planet are SEAfags, which stand perfectly in the center of the Venn diagram representing those three things?
>>285246218you people take the term "self-insert" too seriously. its just the character equivalent of imagining an apple in your head. its not about hypnotizing yourself into thinking your someone else, just about empathizing with the main character to a point where you're happy to see them succeed and frustrated to watch them fail.
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>>285252730This. Most people love to root for a character they like or are presented with. Sometimes if anything bad happens to that character their reaction might be volatile to it and others accuse them of self inserting.
>garbage bait threads have transcended Twitter screenshots to 4chan phonefag screenshots
>>285252381Well normally I take Japan's side on some thingsThis aint one of them.>>285252790Best Dad, hope he gets another season
Actual female self-inserts tend to be girls who are not particularly attractive but still get the guy anyway, much like the average male MC. So the real question is why do Japanese men self-insert as characters who are effectively women?
>>285253297>Actual female self-inserts tend to be girls who are not particularly attractive but still get the guy anywayyou forgot that they're always the kind of "not particularly attractive" that becomes "the most beautiful woman in the world" once they actually dress up.
>>285249802Proof?
>>285253297Rishe is hot and cute though
>>285244490Too smart for this thread
>>285253297I would not call them unattractive because women dislike that idea in their fantasies. What I would call them is blandly attractive. Sure they look beautiful but most of the time they lack the sexual appeal we are used to seeing in conventional anime.
>>285243682>imgBecause most men who watch anime or consume animanga-adjacent content (especially applicable to chinese gacha games) are losers. Next question
>>285243682I do, it's the japanese low-test faggots that can only self-insert as an average looking loser.
>>285250436NTA, but may you please tell me where this "incest thread" is located?
>>285253502>becomes "the most beautiful woman in the world" once they actually dress upTrue. Never happens with male self-inserts.
>>285249129>Why can't there ever be a male-targeted romance with a normal or ambitious male lead? Rejoice.
>>285243682>Do you like self-inserting into anime characters?Yes i like to self insert as the kind hearted but ultra muscular character
>>285251830Bi*
>>285249129>Why can't there ever be a male-targeted romance with a normal or ambitious male lead?been a while but isn't that Kaze no Stigma.
>>285243682Rishe my wife...
>>285244629Yeah this is what made me stop reading a few manga. Chick is throwing herself at the main character, and he just keeps getting red in the face and sperging out. I'm not reading that bullshit.
>>285255864>/a/ suddenly likes Rishe
>>285256209>suddenly
>>285244166>every self-insert male lead is an annoying ikemen/bishounen only a female could like and no male would want to be.Damn, it was that easy to troll /a/?
>>285243682I see no point in self-inserting in animation. Why would i self insert into a character i have no control over what they do or say? It's like self-inserting into Iron Man. What I do understand i self inserting in videogame MCs that are blank slates, like Fire Emblem MCs
>>285256331How did she get trough 8 lifetimes and not once was she impregnated?Or did that happen in the one we know nothing about
>>285256479probably why she's time looping. god saw that fertile body unbred and said "fuck that" and kept sending her back in time until she found a man.
>>285244166why is the second forward slash wrong?
I can be the only one who self inserts into a setting or plotline (a series effectively), but as a 'character' of my own making, when wanting to daydream. I never self insert as an existing person/character even when the MC i made to be a self insert vehicle.
>>285256621*I can'tFixed
>>285256621Ok you're a yume
>>285243682>>285243716>>285243792There are plenty of plain females in Shojo niggas. There are also plenty of flashy males in espe
>>285249189>!
>>285256721>plain females in Shojo niggasevery one i've seen its always the Sawako "she's plan or off putting, but super cute once her friends dress her up".
>>285256779That's true in reality too. Getting fit, makeup, and clothes can make any girl pretty
>>285256959Kek
>>285244490this. i dont actually self insert i just enjoy it vicariously or relate to characters
>>285243682Can we talk about why /a/ always seems to want to self insert as the Females so badly?
>>285243682>Almost evey Yuusha/Isekai anime>Normally looking but super high value boy
Self inserters are often younger teenagers and kids, which is why its more prominent in shows targeted to a younger audience. Once you mature and age, you start self-inserting less.
>>285246118Do you have aphantasia or hyperphantasia? Maybe your definition is just wrong.To me, self-inserting just means that I'm thinking from the MC's lens, thinking about what I would do in his situation, and when the girls interact with him, I imagine myself in the situation and them interacting with me.Maybe you could frame it as, subject characters and object characters. For a love interest character, I think about her and have an opinion about her, she's an object of my thinking. Whereas for a self-insert MC I don't think about him, I think for him, trying to and hoping his thinking aligns with mine so I can be on the same page in the simulation when he interacts with the object characters.As long as the self-insert MC's actions fall within acceptable range of what I can imagine myself doing and thinking, I can self-insert. If he has some weird personality quirks that are very much not like me, then he becomes not self-insert, but his own character whose story I'm just watching.
>>285257156>As long as the self-insert MC's actions fall within acceptable range of what I can imagine myself doing and thinking, I can self-insert. If he has some weird personality quirks that are very much not like me, then he becomes not self-insert, but his own character whose story I'm just watching.pretty good summary, and this last part is ironically why harem MCs often fail as self inserts. like To Love Ru's MC was insufferable because of his obsession with the literal worst girl in the show
>>285244166Is there a better example than the show that’s yaoi but “one of them is totally a girl, I swear”?
>>285244745When he had sex I couldn't self insert anymore.
>Women want to be perfect queens loved by everyone and showered in money and fame>Guys just want some women to show any interest in them at all and have a cute relationship
>>285257495>Guys just want to look at the general direction of a woman and have a harem of girls worshiping him because of this
>>285253534https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/%22self%20inserter%22/order/asc/
>>285257568Is a harem 2-3 girls showing any interest at all? Most of the time, like the OP, the male lead has no real interest in anyone besides the main girl. Even in your older meme harems from the 00's this happened a lot with stuff like Girls Bravo
>>285252543The "biggest self inserters" are everyone because it’s a natural thing.The people overthinking it and trying to single it out as a weird thing are pseudointellectual redditors that fill all your boxes.
>>285257733You also notice that if you push the guy complaining enough they always start saying that men being happy is a bad thing.
>>285258048Because they’re feminist cucks who hate "self inserters" (normal people) because they understand anime girls are for them (which is objectively true, design-wise), not for each other. They hate everything that gets in the way of their fanships.In that way they truly are all ACKs.
>>285257668I'm not sure what you see there. You realize self-insertion is older than 4chan?
>>285258211It being singled out and used as a negative isn't. It's something tumblr made up in the early 2010s as a way to indirectly shit on straight white men.
>>285258459That's a funny thing to say since "Mary Sue" came from a 1973 story mocking female self-insert fics.
>>285258691It came from gilliangan:s island
>>285256331Great choice by the anime to give her ample breasts
>>285243682I can't self insert into most anime protagonists they're all pathetic and gay and not in the good wayI am dying for things that aren't like that
>>285244166nigga looks like a genshin impact character
>>285244166
>>285244166exactly why i dropped this slop, should have been a 5' 3" twink getting spooned by a tomboy oneesan, not fujoslop
>>285244166Everyone is mad about this character because deep down they know 2D > 3D so they can't measure up.
>>285244745So you want to have a flat girlfriend?
>>285245287>bondslopfuck off>>285247137>>285259068>>285247400>>285252381>gay zoomer performative maleslol, give me urashima keitaro or give me death>>285249129why can't you stop existing you stupid hole
>>285249129It's because of feminism. Men wanting to conquer women is le problematic now. It's only ever allowed in porn.
>>285249377most people self insert when they can relate to the character's goal and experiences, either literally or emotionally.
>>285249377>>285259286You can only ever selfinsert into a good character, if you are selfinserting that means the character is really good.
>>285249750>the right to dislike characters who look like rampant faggots created for the sole purpose of appealing to womenDo you realize that if we change two words, you sound just like your average Twitter crybaby?>the right to dislike characters who look like rampant Whores created for the sole purpose of appealing to men
>>285259272Please seek help. No one is stopping you from being a yume.
>>285259805Name one show
>>285260033I don't self insert but Futakoi Alternative.
>>285244166gay homobait characteronly young asian girls(presumably the target) and fags like men who look and act like that
>>285247710Not anymore. Zoomers and 3rdworlders take them INCREDIBLY seriously and will sperg out on anyone who implies that their gigachad self insert is anything less than perfect in all possible ways.
>>285251460You just know that brown hands posted this
>>285259710>UHMMM YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT BAD THINGS!!! IF YOU CHANGE A FEW WORDS IT'S EXACTLY LIKE HOLES COMPLAINING ABOUT GOOD THINGS!!!kys
>>285243682I like to self-insert my pp into female anime characters if you catch my drift
>>285243682only once
>>285260486>still butthurt more than 12 hours laterI think you should see a doctor.
>>285243682I can't self-insert into Rishe, she is too hardcore, I won't be able to knock down arrows with sword and snipe with bow.
>>285243682I used to hate people who self-inserted, thinking that they were stupid and their life lacked meaning. Then I realised it doesn't affect me at all, people can enjoy whatever they like and pretend whatever they want as long as it doesn't affect me personally. Long after that, while writing, I noticed that writing from the POV of a character is basically self-inserting, then I remembered how I threw a fit at people living their fantasies from another's perspective.
No, its stupid as fuck.
>>285243682I love self-inserting into shoujo heroines and feeling like a princess
>>285252790Gauron!
>>285247710>Gigachad edits are more like anti-self-inserts. They are created ironically, with the gigachad obliviously and easily possessing all the high-value traits the viewer doesn't have.
>>285261825I write too and what gets me about self-inserting isn't people choosing to do it or not but people who expect you to bend over and spread for them to insert their fantasies into your writing. Getting indignant and asking why character X doesn't have trait Y and I can't self insert into that you know? Usually it's any kind of flaw or failing point, even ones meant to be outgrown or overcome.
>>285243792I self insert as to who I am(on the inside)
>>285261926Love blossoms on the Afghan battlefield!
>>285243811tpbp.
>>285257156I'm not that anon.The thing is, I don't do things like that at all. I watch and read these stories, even harems, from a normal lens and I analyse things like character arcs and story themes. So when someone says it has no substance despite all its emotional moments I get annoyed.
>>285261252>>UHMMM YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT [THING I DON'T LIKE]!!! IF YOU CHANGE A FEW WORDS IT'S EXACTLY LIKE [NOT ME] COMPLAINING ABOUT [THING I DO LIKE THAT'S FUNCTIONALLY IDENTICAL]!!!Retard
>>285262147I think that's due to lack of self awareness, can't think of any other motive of why people can't understand nothing is tailored to them. It's funny though, because once they understand this, their lives IRL will actually improve.
>>285243682sometimes I get too immersed and think an anime girl is me, wat do
>>285262565if you believe all my beliefs are simply my opinions then what is the point in talking to me?
>>285262629Some of it is literal autism but other times it's just incredibly blunt, even self-aware, egocentrism. Calmly asserting that what they want is best, why shouldn't I use every argument possible to get more of what I want, gotta look out for number one, etc.
>>285244166So basically, most men have some form of repressed homosexuality/bisexuality, and being reminded of this elicits the normal homosexual disgust response. This is why pretty boys are often described as gay even if categorically straight; the homosexuality is in the viewer.
>>285257270How about an actual show with an actual premise like that like Goukon ni Ittara, dumbassAll 3 in pic related are girls that work at a host club but they always "incidentally" appear in public in their work clothes (crossdressing as guys)
>>285262942Sounds stupid
>>285262864Yes. It's more like the psychological response many people feel when standing on a high ledge, where they feel the sudden urge to jump off even if they're not suicidal.
>>285262864No, those pretty boys in question always, without fail, exhibit homosexual traits and are then called out on it.Wearing earrings, for example, is not straight. Only women and faggots have them.The homosexuality is, as always, in you.
>>285244166My sides, Yuritroons infested this board. And why watch a show you won't like? Both leads were in the promotional pic
>>285263030Delulu
>>285245105Fat murrican incels think their standard of masculinity is valid worldwide
>>285245420That guy in the show is going to fuck and impregnate the beauty tomboy lead, already more masculine than most MCs this season
>>285263030>Wearing earrings, for example, is not straight. Only women and faggots have them.Vegito.
>>285263267Did I stutter?
>>285263030Homosexuality means same-sex attraction. A behavior is said to be homosexual if it is romantic or sexual and happening between individuals of the same sex. There is no such thing as homosexual traits; perhaps you are looking for the word "effeminate."
>>285263348Imitating the opposite sex in an attempt to gain attention of the same sex is what I call homosexual behavior. Displaying such traits can and should be called homosexual.
>>285263522Is long hair a trait of the opposite sex
>>285263522But isn't this whole discussion about how the male characters that women like are pretty boys? Pretty boys seek attention from the opposite sex and are largely successful in doing so.
>>285243682I can only self insert as a good protagonist
>>285263677>It's gay for men to seek to be attractive to women. t. /a/
>>285263030>>285263522>pretty boys are homosexual because... their objectively masculine appearance that's designed specifically to attract women gets my attentionDo you have something to share, anon?
>>285264049>>285263677I don't know what women you people know but every woman I've been with and known would find the kpop boy style to be very gay, most women I know find men with a scruffy look attractive not some boyband guy.
>>285244166To be fair those earrings are huge, gaudy, and absolutely making a statement.
>>285264408Okay. What statement?
>>285264097The pretty boy archtype is much more popular with teenage girls and younger women right now because so many of them grew up with anime and k-pop compared to older generations of women.
>>285247400This post is more unhinged than the subject it's critiquing.
>>285264438>>285264438I'm 23, I'm referring to younger women outside. You are referring to terminally online women. Also my 45 year old aunts were into boyband pretty boys 20 years ago, a subsect of women has always found them appealing but they aren't the norm. My 17 yr old sister cracks jokes with me when I'm home about this one girl in her highschool that's sorta a weirdo, she's a major kpop fan and her group is a bunch of similar socially inept women. Reminds me of when I was in highschool.
>>285257495>>Guys just want some women to show any interest in them at all and have a cute relationshipguys also want other men humiliated and killed
>>285264614True. The moral here is that humans are a failed race and should be purged.
>>285264097It depends on the location. In the US, it roughly correlates with age where younger women are into pretty boys and older women are into the scruffy look since the men's appearances there tend to change pretty significantly between their 20s and 30s, but in East Asia the beauty standard for men is bishounen across the board.Men like the Beatles, Bowie, Depp, and Dicaprio were massive phenomena in the west for a reason though, women have always been into that type. In Japan specifically that Swedish actor kid was so influential in the 70s and 80s that he and characters inspired by him are still referenced in manga today. Someone else explained upthread, but pretty boys are still masculine, they're just a different kind of masculine than what (western) men look up to.
>>285264826I agree for the most part but one thing I wonder is why the west and east have different masculine traits that are sought after, as in where did they begin in the modern day? Where did the east get it's pretty boy look from while the west you often see that more rugged look. I don't know if this is true but I have heard that beards in Asia are not really common.
>>285265076Beards were seen as a sign or barbarism during the Edo period, Japanese before that usually rocked beards.
>>285244166>yuri xisters seethinglove it, they should go back to r/transbians though
>>285264826>that Swedish actor kidhad a masculine face with a clearly defined masculine jaw.You really can't compare him to the (literally) mass produced plastic surgery pretty boys of worst Korea. Those barely resemble humans at this point.
>>285243682Why is it always pink hair?
>>285243682I only self-insert into my real life.I want the things I see characters having.
>>285265076As for why the west likes more rugged men, I think it's related to the Renaissance and greek sculptures, they set the ideal beautiful body and this idea has persisted through time. With the Japanese I think they don't have a problem regarding males taking female roles or having female traits. For example, women were barred from participating in theatre, so men did their roles.
Self-inserting is pathetic.How about you insert values you learn from good MCs and incorporate them into your real lifestyle?
>>285249129because normies are actually desired for working and contribute to real culture.anime turns people into losers so it is better to just target losers
>>285243682I only did it once and it was in hadaka shitsuji. Could never do it anywhere else.
>>285265251I already did but I can't say I needed to steal my friends back from snake pedos much in 15 years
>>285262864It's armchair psychology but to play along, that was the reaction to the new gen angels for PSG2. Nothing at all indicates they're gay, but they're good looking zoomers so 4chan declares them twinks
>>285266184Dude, the new gen angels are flamboyant as hell. That's gay as fuck.
>>285243682I've only ever seen 4chan complain about the characters like right. Sure, they might still read the shitty romcom regardless but they just whine about the guy all the way through. The only males who go "wow he's a nice guy" are normalfags.So if none of the basement dweller types like loser MCs, why is the self-insert argument constantly brought up? The obvious reason those kinds of MCs exist is to facilitate glacially paced shit, since actual human beings would get shit done, talk to the girl, etc.
>>285266265Effeminate. The word you're looking for is effeminate.
>>285262273>yfw Rishe could literally kill you
>>285266314The word I'm looking for is gay you prancing lala homo man.
>>285244166They're right, he does look like a fag, he even put an earring on both ears just so you know he looks like a fag in every country.
>>285268208Does he look like a fag in Japan?
>>285243682less insert myself into, more compare and relate with if there's enough key points that embody me. think of how people get assigned spirit animals but in this case its fictional characters. playfully pretending as being them is fine in moderation at most, but genuinely deluding yourself into thinking you are literally a character is too far into unhealthy territory.
>>285264438>>285264568The pretty boys in the west still look more masculine. They are not ambiguousand they don't have excessive skincare routines. Only femcel type women actually find K pop boy band style pretty boys attractive. They are on the opposite end of the spectrum from normie women. I am sure that in Asia there are types of men that average women would find attractive.
>>285259109If she was really the male self insert she would have banged the ninja girl.
