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What they eating anon?
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>>285295786
IT IS TIME
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I need her so bad
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>>285295951
UOOOOOOOOOOOOH MUSLIM WOMEN
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>>285295786
This LN is so ass. Has anybody even died yet?
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>>285295786
I just finished the Fate route of FS/N. Looking forward to reading more before I get the balls to start Strange Fake in a month or two with you guys!
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>>285296285
Hope you enjoyed it. It was a bit of a slog for me to get through, but I know some people blazed through it. Would say it was worth it though.
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>>285296355
It was very fun! The start and end and some fights were sloggy but I really enjoyed the poetic parts of the writing, the themes and the characters and the fun times!
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>>285296437
Was there anything you were unspoiled on?
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Will they fuck
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>>285295951
Wtf, she’s sex?
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>>285295786
Any novel bros know dog status? I like the dog. Not a woman or a canadian, I just had a dogbro as a kid and that helped me get through tough times.
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>>285296700
Dog does literally fucking NOTHING for the the entire story, much like Tine honestly. That does mean he's safe though.
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>>285296446
there was! I had no idea that gilgamesh was kotomine's servant, nor that kotomine was evil, for example! I also didn't know that saber would be unable to fulfill her initial wish with the grail!
fate is one of the most often spoiled series around here huh?
how about you, did you get spoiled on basically everything?
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>>285296745
Thank you
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>>285295951
Dear Allah...
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Servants like Dumas and Shakespeare are my favorites. I wish their more interesting conceptual powers had better results than the whole UNGA BUNGA meta.
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>>285295951
Sigma's a lucky lad.
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>>285295786
I can't wait for 2027.
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>>285296285
i hope you enjoy the other 2 routes
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>>285295951
Bismillah Ramadan starts tomorrow
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>>285295786
Ayaka a cute
Tine a minx
Hansa a best
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>>285297970
hey thanks! i'm sure i will. i think i've passive absorbed from various places on this site that they're better than the first. please don't hype me up though!
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I think the main premise of fate, holy grail wars and servants is pretty stale by now, but the story has brought in enough elements of the wider setting to capture my attention. It’s going to be fun seeing a Dead Apotle go toe to toe against an exorcist next episode.
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>>285295951
Built for straight(lesbian) sex corruption
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>>285295951
Body shape is haram
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>>285298711
My favorite part of Nasu nonsense is Mystic Eyes. I don't know how strong they are or can get compared to all the other autistic powers though. I just have an eye fetish.
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>>285296700
>Not a woman or a canadian
fucked up how you can't say you like dogs on the internet anymore without people thinking you're a woman or a canadian
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>>285299069
It’s kinda hard to group mystic eyes in terms of power because some of them are harmless tricks while others are complete bullshit capable to manipulating metaphysical concepts. They are really cool.
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>>285299353
I liked the bendy eyes from knk. Simple but cool.
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>>285298409
They are fun because they expand the setting, but the original route is my favorite. I think Unlimited Blade Works is kinda stupid, despite Rin being my favorite character.
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So does anyone at the Clock Tower other than Waver Velvet do literally anything ever
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>>285299694
Puppet guy was spying on the yanks does that count?
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>>285299694
Depends, is Touko part of the Cock Tower
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>>285299694
The more ambitious mages usually leave to conduct their own business. We just don’t see a lot of it because the setting is not explored very often nowadays.
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>>285299694
Marisbury, Daybit, Kirschtaria, Aoko are all from the Clock Tower
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>>285299694
Doing something mean risking getting ACKed and loosing your familly magic crest. You just stay at home being a boomer who refuse to use the internet, beat sociopathy into your kid and you will be happy.
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>>285299949
>Doing something mean risking getting ACKed and loosing your familly magic crest
Only if you’re a loser with no puppets
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When you think about it, hair reveals are basically pantyshots for muslims
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>>285299919
Most of them are FGO OCs
Gee thanks
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>>285299694
The Clock Tower is nothing special. One guy's classroom is enough to determine the entire balance of power.
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>>285300186
Waver’s class is nice but I absolutely despise the Rinwank
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>>285300186
Wasn't that retconned?
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>>285300506
Even if they retcon the level of mage rank among the el melon class they're still going to be a major faction barring someone finding da root or going full heartless and returning to the age of gods. The modern mage is the fittest in a modern world. Luddites are going to eat dirt.
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>>285300186
>ruins your story pacing gang
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Did they change the line thickness from episode 0/1?
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Having only read the Case File's manga, is Flat's backstory that apparently gets shown off in this, canon (or mostly canon) to the Case Files universe as well?
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>>285300788
Should be canon, though I haven't read the CF manga specifically. The main authors of SF and CF often exchange notes (which are promptly eaten by Nasu)
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>>285300775
Yes. 0 was an OVA with a different production scheme, after all.
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>>285300186
It's more that he's opened up a new modern faction that'll come to hold power as his teachings are proven right and that pedigree isn't the only important things
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>>285300186
>TO SAVE THE WORLD
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>>285295825
They better sell a cool combined figure with both of them and their attacks or something.
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>>285300788
Should be, specially since Flat is a FSF character first
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I need more Luvia wank
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SEX WITH ZEALOT CHAN
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>>285299763
>>285299807
>>285299840
>>285299919


It seems the answer I’m getting is “No”.

NOT SPAM jdjdjxndxnxnnxdjkenxx
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>>285295951
what's her sexuality
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Wait, so the 5th Holy Grail War takes place in 2004? The dismantling of the Grail is meant to be 10 years after that, right? And Tsukihime Remake takes place in 2014? Is it a coincidence or intentional? I know the universes are meant to be separate, but it seems like it lines up quite well if they wanted to make an FSF-esque crossover.
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>>285296437
you will have to play 7 fgo singularities if you want to understand this better lmao
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>>285301329

yes
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>>285301409
FSF takes place in Himuten world that matches up the old Tsukihime timeline. Which is why Ciel was in the 5th HGW in Himuten, but would be dead in the TsukiR timeline.
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>>285301108
god imagine the drilljobs
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>>285301409
Pure coincidence unless they eventually make it no longer be a coincidence. Maybe Akiha shows up on the Clock Tower one day but only after the far side routes are remade.
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>>285301647
I’m very annoyed that you aren’t kidding and that there’s a whole other spinoff timeline I’d literally never heard of
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Can't wait until Red Garden becomes about Kaiju Akiha fighting Kaiju Sacchin while Arach frames Kohaku for the bad things she did in the original
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>>285301774
Also Nrvnqsr will turn into Godzilla.
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>>285300057
Wouldn't it more similar to accidentally walking in on someone changing/naked?
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>>285295786
damn the priest guy used Ciel's weapons at the end. Kino
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>>285296700
This entire post reels of reddit
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>>285296700
Dog is fine but doesn't have much going on (I mean, he's a dog) but does have one good emotional moment with Enkidu that will probably not even happen in the anime due to it being narration
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>>285301643
FGO is connected to strange fake? doh...
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At least shirou doesn't hijack this spinoff
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>>285302426
yet
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>>285302400
FGO is like a shit fanfic that connects everything and anything in a shoddy way.
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>>285302400
Only to that fuck-ass Ishtar one and LB7 :)
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>>285296745
Ayaka pets him once
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>>285303671
>magic cia jobber
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>>285301946
and Shiki will fuck Noel
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>>285303671
Uh-oh
Do I need to check the news?
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>>285303971
If only
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>>285303671
>>285303967
>CIA glowie's servant is a muslim
do you think it was intentional
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finished reading volume 5, and today I'll start 6, things finally seem to be picking up steam
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>>285304239
a muslim suicide bomber no less
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I don’t think I’ve read the LN of an anime since Konosuba. Mildly tempted since I’ve already had a ton of stuff spoiled, but maybe I’ll wait for the season to be over.
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>>285296537
Maybe?The LN is still on-going
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>>285304306
flat and jack dies
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>>285296537
they did.
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>>285305118
I appreciate the spoiler anon, I'll resist the temptation to open it!
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Really hope they're compiling all the Tsubaki scenes instead of skipping them..
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>>285295786
sex with ALL fate women
yes even the formerly male ones
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>>285306025
Are you sure about that
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>>285306058
indubitably
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>>285306058
What's her noble phantasm? Obesity?
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>>285306102
unironically yes
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>>285306143
Alrighty then... I'll stick with Ayaka the schlong swallower.
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>>285300186
Its the only damn class with any knowledge of modern technology and how muggles go around with it, they will survive even the clocktower dies with the death of mystery.
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>>285299807
Touko depends of the timeline and when in that timeline the story is happening.
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>>285306199
I wonder if she's doing it on purpose
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>>285296285
Fate was my favorite route. Now quickly finish the 2 others route before you get spoiled. I suggest you don't search or lurk on threads for the time being.
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Imagine we go through an entire week of Fate threads.
This is already the 5th day straight since the new episode dropped.
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>>285306715
Notice the signs, one says Wood, and the other has a 6. The innuendo is off the scales.
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>>285300994
Nah, pedigree is still directly correlated with potential because it's not simply random talent, but the result of countless generations of pain and sacrifices. That's a painful lesson Waver had no choice but to accept, and why he's the only Kayneth apologist in the universe.

The real X-factor is that traditional Clock Tower education is fucking GARBAGE. They'll teach you the minimum that the curriculum dictates and not a word more, because the actual goal for the teachers is to hang real knowledge like bait so they can get students crawling up to them, begging for a crumb of magecraft that they will graciously give... for a modest price.

Waver's big breakthrough was showing up in the middle of all this and going:
>What if I just... taught them things, for free?
And to everyone's shock he ended up with a little army of ride or die followers who support him and each other, also for free. This angers and confuses the magus.
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>>285300186
Who’s the woman below Yvette?
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>>285307730
No Waver is genuinely an amazing teacher. Here's an exerpt from the wiki:
>His true talent is realized as a lecturer due to being the best person at detecting the hidden talent of others and training it, described as the "unusual talent of could not put Magecraft to practice, but ingenious in the reinterpretation of theories and classification of systems." It can be said in comparison to running that he could never be an athlete because his leg strength is among the absolute worst, but his talents can shine as a coach because he can imagine the perfect running form. He doesn’t take many students, but all of his graduates have achieved no less than the rank of "Brand" (『色位』ブランド, ShikiiBurando?) and "Pride" (『典位』プライド, Ten'iPuraido?) within a decade, without exception.
He's basically the greatest armchair mage. The reason his spinoff is a detective series is because of how good he is at analyzing other people's magic.
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>>285307937
https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Mary_Lil_Fargo
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>>285300186
>Kills all tension in the story because everyone knows that class isn’t dying
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How far in are the LNs? How many servants are still alive by now? No names, just the number. I have no idea since I never read past the first volume thanks to snail-paced translations.
Pic not anime/LN related, I just really love that guy and his design.
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>>285295786
any porn of her yet
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>>285295786
this is my new wife
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>>285307989
This is so cringe it makes me want to vomit. It’s like some pathetic nerd’s wet dream.
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>>285308296
Narita can't kill off characters
Its his curse
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>>285307989
Wasn't trying to talk down his skills at teaching, just that the most disruptive thing about his class towards the established order is that he cultivated genuine gratitude in his students, where the rest of the association's factions have always worked through coercion.
It was a rather notable plot point throughout Case Files that Waver's mindset and his whole department better fit the Democratic or neutral factions, but he was trapped as a vassal of the Aristocratic faction, and there was the permanent threat that he'd get fucking obliterated if he dared to get too chummy with them. That's how mage politics normally work.
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>>285308139
Thanks mang
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>>285308334
It doesn't sound so cringe when you realise that the clocktower is basically a vilIain and main cast member printing factory. Practically everyone is there.
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>>285307989
Why does he get to have a niche that isn't just UNGA BUNGA but every time someone else tries they get their shit slapped by aura farming?
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>>285308334
Being a good teacher?
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>>285308296
>No names, just the number.
12.
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>>285308703
The hell- After 10 years or something we still have no more than two deaths?
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>>285308763
One death. There is no Fake Saber, so this war has 13 servants total.
I will acknowledge three of those still alive are in a state of "down and out". Unless Narita introduces some serious bullshit to restore them, they're very much removed from the stage.
And in the first place, three of the servants were noncombatants to begin with and obviously aren't going to be damn fools and get themselves killed.
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>>285305807
was this skipped?
might give you an idea
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>>285308827
And one was supposed to die in the latest volume but Narita decide to push it forwards
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>>285308922
Where'd you get this, anon.
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>>285308943
my unc works at crunchyroll
it's from the "TRUE" trailer
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>>285308578
Because he explains the entire process behind his opponent's convoluted magecraft by breaking it down to them. Which causes them to lose the will to fight.
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>>285302623
I want to fuck an old man now...
Was Rin actually right all this time?
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>>285309130
>Magus defeats enemy with FACTS and LOGIC on r/atheism
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>>285301774
>Arach frames Kohaku
Arach is there to give Kohaku an injection so we get a fight between Akiha and DA Kohaku.
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>>285310129
Best case scenario, Kohaku makes SHIKI kill Arach and cements herself as the final villain
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Didn’t realize the UBW anime had basically an extended epilogue compared to the VN
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>>285296537
I appreciate Saber for being so humble and cheerful yet still come as incredibly smug without wanting to be smug. That's a rare talent.
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>>285310238
It will be revealed Akiha was another candidate to revive Crimson Moon, finally getting pay off for that line in MBAA where Akiha said she has the same blood as Arc. It will link the near and far sides stories, since the far side being fully isolated from the near side never made much sense.
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Can't wait to see anime onlies react to the Massacre at Ayyaddieh
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>>285310459
>Akiha was Altrouge pretending to be a nip Oni-blooded family heiress for reasons.
Can't spell Kinoko without KINO!
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Are there any good vampires? I want to be a vampire. I like vampires. I don't like evil though.
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>>285308244
Narita doesn't have a good track record on killing characters to begin with.
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>>285310459
I’d bet that Hisui and Kohaku’s route will be mostly isolated, as they go hard on the family drama. Akiha’s route can branch out a bit. Satsuki’s route is weird in that theoretically it should act more like the near side. But if the theory about it being a SHIKI route as well is correct, that’s how it could better connect with the Tohno family.
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>>285310557
Sion
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>>285310552
I think I read somewhere that Altrouge does look similar to Akiha, and that this might be her, but I have no idea where either the image or statement come from.
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>>285309130
More like if El Melon 2 can explain it the mystery is decreased. Luvia was pretty mad at him at first because of this.
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>>285310557
dead apostle noel is cute
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>>285310608
There was some Rin vs Luvia at the Clock Tower and also a Shirou speaking with Waver clip.
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>>285310627
I don't think we ever got her official depiction or even description of her appearance.
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>>285310617
>>285310634
Thanks. I want one of them to make me a vampire too (not evil).
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>>285308332
As a twintail appreciator, I agree. I also liked this rando.
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>>285310816
It's romantic
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>>285310797
Chances are I may have read someone’s headcanon by accident then. Them linking that image made me somewhat convinced, and since there’s so many statements I’ve never heard whenever I look stuff up, it’s easy to not question things.
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>>285296537
If this was released 20 years ago they would've 100% fucked
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>>285310557
Ciel Roa
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>>285310919
Hm, I think this is the post I came across when looking things up. Kinda hard to verify ‘old BBS board posts’, even though I think there actually was one.
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>>285310936
Different from normal? I like night and moon more than day and sun. I like superpower and want to drink blood (not evil).
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>>285310953
Cute!
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The protector of Ayaka.
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>>285310627
The Akiha thing is really obscure. It's a statement that Takeuchi made where he recalls suggesting to Nasu that they give Altrouge the same face as Akiha.
We can probably assume she has black hair from her description the material book though.
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>>285310557
There are some very rare dead apostles who are able to focus and are not evil, but it depends on the world. In Tsukihime worlds, the impulse of the Idea Blood means they can't truly be good, only neutral. Even Zelretch in that world takes the stance of "I'm not humanity's enemy but I'm not humanity's ally either". In Fate worlds, vampires can be quirky over all else, Zepia is still a vampire but he's not malevolent in any way because he has no reason to fall into despair.
Van-Fem is another example of a neutral vampire, who is just interested in having good times and is basically an affable mafia boss. At the same time, he gave a thumbs up to a vampire whose stated goal was omnicide, on the opinion that planetary-scale murder-suicide is romantic as fuck.
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>>285310971
It's bullshit but I believe it.
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>>285311023
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>>285310557
Zelretch, Alcatraz, Sion, Melty Blood Satsuki.
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I have a question. Do all executors respect the Burial Agency like Hansa does, or is Hansa just a total weirdo? I'm curious.
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>>285311049
>he gave a thumbs up to a vampire whose stated goal was omnicide, on the opinion that planetary-scale murder-suicide is romantic as fuck.
You mean Ortenrosse or Roa? We don't know if their goals result in the destruction of humanity.
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>>285311141
Jester Karture's original goal in Strange Fake was "poke the spider as hard as possible" (activate ORT and kill every fucking thing).
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>>285311154
Repost
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>>285311176
How would everyone freak out if they discovered she's actually a female vampire?
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>>285311194
Judging from Zelretch's mutterings at the end of volume/episode 1: yes, yes it would have.
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>>285311219
Would it matter? It's just another bloodsucking monster, no matter if they're male or female.
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>>285311219
I don't think anybody in-story will actually care. Zealot might hate her even more, since she's so religious.
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>>285311049
He does get really mad if you're a hypocrite, however
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>>285311240
But a lot of people started hyping up Jester after the second episode came out.
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>>285311227
Yet at the same time, current Nasu is big into NTR with that Boggart shit. Prude while simultaneously into cuck scenarios.
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>>285295951
Coom aside, I think she's really cool. Assassins as a concept are very cool, and I like how she says "Zabaniya".
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Hansa or Prime Kirei Who would win?
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>>285311274
they don't know that fate is a setting where everyone is an embarassing jobber
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Jester is just the average "Is [SERVANT] for (you)?" poster in the FGO generals
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>>285311324
Kirei with command spells stomps due to spam, without them Hansa probably wins because cyborg body makes an executor build even more busted.
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You know, it's kinda weird how it took this long to add a Dead Apostle to a Holy Grail war. Like what would be cooler than seeing a vampire fight King Arthur or any other legendary hero?
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>>285311405
Its nasu's split of tsuki and fate worlds that caused that.
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>>285311324
Even with the bolstering of command spells, when confronted with a submachine gun, Kirei had to bat the bullets out of the air with his black keys. When confronted with an SMG AND a shotgun, Hansa plucked every bullet and buckshot out of the air just for kicks.
Hansa is a mountain man in addition to being a battle cyborg, I definitely put him at a higher combat tier.
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>>285311405
We had one in Apo though :^)
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>>285311426
Why does he call himself weak then?
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>>285311375
Jester is just rebranded Shuu Tsukiyama but gay in the other way.
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>>285311449
Compared to the Burial Agency
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>>285311449
He is exceedingly modest.
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>>285310627
I can't even find this on the wayback machine on the bamboo broom.
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how far into the light novel will this adapt? is there any chances they'll come back and adapt all of it?
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>>285311426
Didn't he actually catch a bullet when he was an untrained child? Dude is built different.
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>>285310627
That's not true read this
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>>285311795
>magical girl
My god i need her design, DA Noel was peak so i wonder how she will look
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>>285310627
An illustration by Takeuchi, suspected to be Altrouge.
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>>285311861
From what I’ve looked into, that was explicitly an original character

https://web.archive.org/web/20210410200101/https://manga.tokyo/goods-news/type-moons-takeuchi-illustrates-book-on-japans-maid-boom/
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>>285311841
The magical girl two-stage transformation thing means she has her original form, her first transformation, and then one more transformation.
I imagine the first will be her loli form, then one that looks like Arc. Dunno about the third though.
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>>285311861
>altrouge brunestud
that's obviously a blonde haired loli with hair drills
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>>285312062
An original maid who happens to be a vampire.
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Every original character Takeuchi draws is Altrouge until proven otherwise.
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>>285312184
>FGO was the sixth most profitable gacha game 2025
>lower production costs than all the 3D gacha
>still no tsukihime anime
>DA are literally appearing in Fate anime with no context for anime viewers
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I can never tell if Nasuverse is grim or serious.
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Look, I get that it being taken out was because it probably doesn't have and Idea Blood, but it still annoys me that Nasu took out Primate Murder of the DAA List cause it feels like it's prioritizing the FGO Beast version despite being created as Tsukihime background info
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>>285312279
They should just add the DAA stuff to the FGO beast version. Halloween event.
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>>285312279
We never even saw him in his Beast IV form, what's to prioritize?
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>>285312394
FGO is in the beast hunting arc.
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>>285312257
they should know vampires exist if they watched Zero
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>>285311000
Being a Dead Apostle is an almost guarantee to turn psycho. The reason you suck blood is because your body is constantly degenerating, the older you get, the worst it become. Also you eventually need to become more powerfull or your body and soul won't hold on, but as you get more powerfull, staying stable become harder.

Your instincts are all over the place and you will probably become a freak if you live long enough. Also other vampires probably see you as either a rival or a bitch.
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>>285311135
Hansa's a weirdo. Can't speak for the Remake, but before that the BA members are seen as freaks. Usefull, but freaks.

Hansa is just a good boy.
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>>285311449
He read Kengan, he's humble-buffing.
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>>285312279
Honestly I'm a little mad at Roa being taken out of the real list too. I kinda liked him being the stinky weirdo of the group (not that it was unified in any way to begin with) they just have to deal with.
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>>285312597
He has "arrived"
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What episode is True Assassin going to appear?
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>>285312102
Given that Arcueid's title is "Golden Princess" and Altrogue is "Eclipse Princess of Black Blood" (often shortened to just "BLACK"), the general consensus is that she probably has dark hair.
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>>285312417
They are the cause of Kiritsugu's PTSD.
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>>285312677
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>>285312716
Holy hell, the lily version is so cute.
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>>285312279
Primate Murder is so cute a little fluffy dog
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>>285312716
sex
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>>285312474
Oh that's no good I just want to party and seduce goth girls for all eternity
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>>285312257
>DA are literally appearing in Fate anime with no context for anime viewers
What context do you need beyond 'vampires are a thing in a world with magic and monsters' and 'church special forces are there to fight them'? People have watched/ read Hellsing.
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>>285312866
Because now we're getting people that want to be DAs so they can pick up goth girls.
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>>285312895
So nothing new.
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>>285312829
Fate has a lot of methods of immortality, but most of them cost your humanity one way or another. Either by compromising your morals, jeopardizing your sanity, or outright making you inhuman (one of the first immortals was likened to a plant, he would last forever, but he had no more desire to move and just meditated in his hall day and night).
To be immortal while remaining human is a thing of Magic.
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>>285312716
>kid gil
>mario
>beo
>this
why is nasu obsessed with blond children?
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>>285312716
She cute
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>Church Good
For real? Isn't that rare for Japanese media?
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>>285313047
Well they're a bit zealous but the things they fight against are genuine abominations.
But yeah, that's the joke. You expect the church to be evil, but the church is actually pretty nice. It's just Kotomine that's evil.
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>>285312994
>nasu
* Takeuchi
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>>285313047
I mean they aren't exactly nice people. They did torture a teenage girl to see if they could kill her because she kept reviving.

But they are protecting humanity from all kind of nasty shit that lurk in the dark.
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>>285313085
She was basically a vampire, or the product of a vampire. A heretical creature born from a vampire.
Of course they're not going to trust that she's "A normal girl"
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>>285310953
>>285311078
Is there a reason why Ciel looks older than what her real age would say when she got taken over by Roa?
I always thought it was because the possession would accelerate her body,kinda like how his 18th reincarnation looks younger than when Roa fully takes over in the OG sprites.
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>>285313047
It’s the mages that are mostly evil people while the Church are the heroes. They aren’t always soft when it comes down to their methods, but they still fight for humanity while mages fight for their own self-interests.
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>>285311219
Well for one,that would result in more porn
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>>285313188
In the remake, it was stated that Ciel is a late bloomer and her body freezes to be always at her peak.
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>>285311219
Gender swapping happens so often in fate that even the in universe people seem not to care.
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>>285312994
He’s hardly unique in anime.
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Dorothea Coyet = Jester?
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>>285296160
The CIA get a confirmed kill, as one would expect.
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>>285310878
They are not the same character. This one is a police officer, that one is a nun.
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>>285313611
Unknown and rather unlikely. Unless there was a huge differentiation between worlds in Fate, Dorothea the vampire is probably not Dorothea Coyett. If she were, she likely would've been written by Narita instead of Sakurai, and it doesn't line up with the vampire Dorothea having been banished from the magus association while still a human.
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>>285314051
I wonder if we'll get a background story for Jester next volume. Every Master has gotten one minus him right?
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>>285313822
Wasn't it just a puppet body? Guy just hopped into a walking broom. He's fine.
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>>285314118
Last chance for it unless Narita gives up and announces "just kidding, volume 11". We're probably getting everything, Jester ended the last chapter pinned and down to his last combat-ready body. It's about time for Dorothea to leave all her shells behind and stop being a joke.
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>>285314118
>>285314193
I'm taking bets on whether or not Jester will be revealed as a dindu nothing
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>>285312606
That's a buddhist, though
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>>285314193
I hope he does. Otherwise he'll make DAs look bad when we've been seeing what even weakened DAs in Fate worlds can do in Sanda's books and it's crazy how capable they are. Literally god-tier.
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>>285295951
Hijabi saber doko? Altria should wear hijab for England is britistan now. Sadiq Khan as Saber too!!
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>>285314303
DA never should have been this wanked, never. It just makes Tsukihime look dumber in comparison.

I could understand DAA, but definitely not DA. You make every DA into ORT tier, meanwhile DAA get killed by a kid with a pocket knife.
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All of theses comments about hoping Jester starts breaking shit once she stops sandbagging will age like milk when Dorothea ends up jobbing lmao
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>>285314411
I understand why Nasu did it though. The DAA in Remake are meant to be calamities that humanity has no hope of ever standing up against. Case in point in Remake we're directly told the Church (which are DAs natural enemies) needs 200 years of prep-time to fight a single Ancestor and they've only succeeded twice. Their successes? Limbs and Meltting, aka Merem and El-Nahat. Merem willingly joined the Church and Nahat being a victim of his own ability.
The buff was neccesary to instil the sense of absolute despair and fear that the world of Tsukihime is a scary place to live in. Especially when you're not getting hard-carried by magical ghosts from the past.
I think it works well with the theme of Tsukihime
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>>285314620
Nah, Tsukihime they were always killing DAA like a joke, I think Tsukihime 2 has Shiki casually killing some DAA forest at the start of the story. Nero got styled on badly by a kid with slightly super human movements, he wasn't even moving mach speed. Roa was always a bad joke, anyone that tells you otherwise never actually played Tsukihime. He got mindfucked and beaten by a highschooler without an actual battle. There's a DAA that's literally just Dante that they haven't shown in like 20 years now. Vlov went down pretty easily even

All the wank towards DA's claiming they're 1000x above heroic spirits, they're immortal, invincible, they're all 100x stronger than every divine spirit, just feels like cope. Its like in order to uplift the top of the pyramid they're trying hard to lift up the bottom of the pyramid, but instead you just have the bottom of the pyramid above the top of the pyramid now, with the story basically wanking random ass DA more than DAA.
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>>285314775
>>285314775
>Nah, Tsukihime they were always killing DAA like a joke
Yes, you're talking about the OG continuity. In the OG continuity we have multiple accounts of DAAs getting killed in the past to the point there were only 10 DAAs active as Arc stated in at the end of the Ciel route. Meanwhile there are more than 20 DAAs fully active in Remake.

The lore you're talking about quite literally doesn't matter now since it all got changed for the Remake. With Sanda's works of course aligning with the TsukiR lore.
Nasu has a different perspective now when writing for Tsukihime than for writing for Fate, in that only monsters can defeat monsters, which says a lot for Ciel being the only one that actually has three DAA kills under her belt. Nobody else has pulled the same thing off.
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>>285314775
>Vlov went down pretty easily even
Definitely not. The dude required the combined efforts of Ciel and Shiki with Arc also helping to good degree. That's the most stacked team you can possibly have against you.
Also Shiki has quite literally the most broken ability in the TM world. So him being able to kill DAAs means nothing, it's not an anti-feat against DAAs.
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>>285314012
read the post again
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Imagine being so cringe your own DAA disowns you.
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>>285312674
End of next episode or start of 4.
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>>285313047
The Abrahamic god is canon to Fate, so it would be weirder if they were completely evil.
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>>285315095
DAAs are all hyperautists so it's really not uncommon
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>>285315357
Nice. How strong is God in it?
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>>285315467
God I can't wait for these two to commit some war crimes.
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>>285315768
everything is a jobber in the nasuverse so if god is in everything and connected to the cosmic root then he's a jobber too
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>>285312257
You will have another garbage FGO anime and you will enjoy it
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>>285315768
He's a weird fellow. He's not the strongest, but he appears to be the most omniscient of any character. He checkmated Goetia 3000 years ahead of time, and that checkmate further checkmated Marisbury three years down the road, collectively saving the entire universe by sending a single vision to Solomon.
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>>285315879
>he's not the strongest
He created Solomon who is above and beyond everyone else we've seen to date. Nasu compared him to every japanese god and buddhas combined at minimum. Its just that divine spirits do not meddle with humanity after the age of gods typically.
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>>285315879
I love God so much brothers
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>>285315838
They're never adapting EOS gachaslop ever again
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>>285315838
I'll take Tsukihime first then another FGO please.
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>>285315928
And so do all the best (sexiest) of them.
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>>285315928
What is Frieren even doing there
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>>285315927
And even Solomon can't do shit to the likes of Sefar or ORT. He's strong in human terms, sure, but he's not a cosmic entity. Even the Beasts are beyond God from what we've seen, in their fully ascended states.
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..mongrels.
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>>285315978
>he can't do anything to them
LB0 Kinda proves he can, since even 1/72 of Goetia who is less than 1% of Solomon was able to absorb and redirect seven supernova level attacks at once before converting the energy into a new Ars Nova. He was able to recreate the legend of all heroic spirits within the testament universe which was enough to destroy a copy of the root.
If you think he's weaker than a beast then you didn't understand the wank at all; with Goetia when Goetia was at his peak saying living Solomon was still much stronger than himself.
And even then that's someone god gave power to, not his actual power.
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>>285315973
on one hand she's literally on a journey to find the gates of heaven and see if the afterlife and divinity are real
on the other hand the heaven she's looking for is that of a pagan goddess-worshiping religion
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>>285315978
>beasts
Kill em with kindness.
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>>285315935
Boy you’re in for a disappointment
>>285315944
Maybe after Red Garden in 2029
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Started watching this, Jack the ripper isn't the perfect loli... I feel betrayed, dropped
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>>285315973
BFFs with Executors when it comes to slaying abominations.
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So far 100% of the fanart is of francesca
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>>285316065
Okay, you really need to understand that "absorb and redirect" is not at all the same as having that power for yourself. It's classic Nasu compatibility. Flauros is not stronger than seven supernovae.
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>>285315978
Primate Murder is just fluffy dog
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>>285316103
The twitter algorithm is just garbage now, I am not getting all the fanart like I used to. From FSF I am only getting fanart of the boy characters. As well as a whole lot of unrelated art who no one cares about.
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can someone explain to me who "daybit" is and why apparently he can obliterate heroic spirits?
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>>285316187
He's a scary alien from outer space.
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>>285316312
...what
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>>285316187
>Be American
>Father studies the semetic people
>Find cool ancient artifact in the dessert left behind by aliens
>Alien artifact activates
>Turns you and your father into a stain on the floor
>Aliens manifest, see that they killed some people, and for some reason reconstruct the son from nothing
>he still has all his memories, but when he looks on the floor he sees where he was still standing, the shadow is still there
>Head of clocktower sees the stain, says that the father and boy are still alive as living shadows on the floor, forever, beyond the end of the universe
>The daybit that exists now is basically a clone created by aliens, but these aren't normal aliens, they're aliens that exist far beyond the boundary of the universe, advanced aliens
>Daybit goes about his life pretending to be human but as he goes about his life, he notices there are differences in what he used to be
>He can now only remember five minutes a day
>Also he has perfect awareness of the entire universe, also he can connect his brain to the alien dark star outside of the universe
>If he's ever in danger he can summon some alien angels from beyond the universe to kill his enemies
>his full powers are never fully explained, everything about him is seemingly inhuman
>Everyone seeks advice from him because despite his oddity, his universal awareness gives him some strange wisdom towards things normal people don't have
>Mentally like ten years old since he only remembers five minutes a day(maybe)
>He's basically something trying to act human, living what he believes to be a moral human life, even though he's as far from it as you can get by now

Basically the plot of Inuyashiki
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>>285316170
artists started abandoning twitter when the muskrat made it even easier to use grok to alter other people's images. why post anything you put effort into on twitter when all that'll happen is people will use a bot to turn it into kiddie porn with an american flag in the background and it'll be your name as an artist that gets associated with it
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>>285316187
Daybit (Daybit Sem Void) is a magus from FGO. In the gacha, there are 48 mage candidates who are selected for, amongst other things, their aptitude as a master as well as one other aptitude specific to the setting of the game (Rayshifting). Daybit belongs to team A, which is a selection of master magus candidates who are handpicked for their ability both as master, but also rayshifting (you can think of it like time travelling). A few Team A magus members are strong enough that they can rival servants.

Daybit is somewhat involved with aliens and has strange memory issues.

About servant power level, it's limited by the mana that a master has access to as well as the quality of the servant container. Naturally, you will never hit the hypotheticals that are described in this thread in an ordinary grail war.

When you summon a servant, you basically summon a copy from the Throne of Heroes into a container. In a holy grail war, that container is prepared by the grail. Of course, the basic way to think of it is, when you damage the container enough, the servant will 'die' and the spirit will return to the Throne of Heroes with records of what they have done. So it's actually very difficult for a servant to TRULY die. For that to happen, they will have to be wiped from the Throne.
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>>285316417
Honestly its easier to just tell people to read Inuyashiki at this point

Its the same basic story
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>>285316417
nasu should've been struck by a car, had a brain aneurysm, suffered a hear attack, or gone out like miura before he ever shat out this nonsensical turd
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>>285316467
Learn to make a coherent sentence
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>>285316187
Daybit is a terminal for "the Dark Star", an alien world older than the universe and outside humanity's vision. He was made this because when his dad showed him a seemingly harmless OOPArt in the Clock Tower it decided to fire at that exact moment. His connection with the Dark Star allows him to summon servant-class extradimensional entities, with the more enemies he faces, the more Dark Star forces he can conjure to match them like a mirror. Each one seems to be about as strong as any servant.
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>>285316447
A man coping with the fact that he's dead and replaced with a clone of himself. And the clone isn't human, its something inhuman.
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>>285316483
What is so hard to follow about the various ways Nasu could've died before he ever wrote Daybit?
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>>285316527
What's her point?
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>Nasu writes sci-fi like magic and fantasy like sci-fi
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>>285316532
offering her hymen to Gilgamesh
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>>285316532
Well,she...uh...
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>>285316543
oh my god
you're right
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>>285316417
It's kinda like PROTOTYPE's story too,except with a living virus instead of ayylmaos
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>>285316543
Nasu's great love is sci-fi but he is so shit at it that everything gets worse the more he tries to leverage his urban fantasy reputation into sci-fi. Like if he had his way FSN would be seen as a sideshow compared to the Holy Grail of Greatness that is Fate/Extra, but in the real world people are like 'fuck Extra, Extella, Link, and that shitty anime. Just go back to Shirou' and Nasu never does and instead vomits all his sci fi aspirations into FGO instead.
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>>285312517
>>285314295
Tsukihime Kiara is Burial agency executor
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>>285299553
Wow! I'm surprised because Rin is my favorite character too. Well i'll keep realistic expctations going in!
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>>285306753
Thanks anon!
I'm surprised though, that's 2 anons whose fav route is the first one now.
>>285302675
haha...
>>285302686
I see... :)
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>>285316868
this isn't fucking sci-fi though
perceiving something outside space-time would be the equivalent of seeing a color no one else ever has
if a person was forced to connect with such a thing, they wouldn't understand fucking shit
at best depending on how it worked, they'd go about not ever knowing
at worst, they'd be batshit fucking insane or immediately die from whatever kind of sensory fuckery that would do to burst the neurons of your brain into bits
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>>285302675
FGO is more like Nasu digging out all his old drafts and ideas, including ones that he couldn't make a story out of back in the days.
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>>285295951
My trad tard wife
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>>285308334
>teaching BAD
Get a load of this loser
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>>285311331
>embarassing jobber
That's basically Gojo
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>>285317028
Maybe if you were still human
Probably not if you were some alien clone thing
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>>285307989
>smart people are wizards (lol)
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>>285317238
then you'd be some bizarre incomprehensible monster
imagine something outside of space-time
you fucking can't
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>>285317028
>>285317319
Most people who write hard scifi have a degree in things like physics, for a reason. For example, Alistair Reynolds has a PHD in astrophysics. That's why the writing in Revelation Space is so realistic. Stephen Baxter has degrees in Physics and Mathematics. He wrote Xeelee. Etc
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>>285306199
Are hotdogs that really big in Amarica? I have to always buy two to get full because of how small they are over here
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genre fiction's most inscrutable retard: the genre definition fag
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>>285317357
you don't even need a degree
a contemporary understanding of these concepts is more than enough to write this off from premise alone
>outside of space-time
so it doesn't fucking exist or can't be comprehended
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>>285317389
kind of missing the point here
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I want to go Judge Holden on Tine's ass
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>>285317451
You want to put her in a device that will slowly lower her into a pit of acid while a trio of incompetent easily distracted goons stands guard?
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>>285317357
>Xeelee
Even this is pretty absurd. Their biology manipulating space-time is fantasy, however many technical terms are used to describe their existence.
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>>285317451
You want to take her scalp? I mean, i know she doesn't do much in the story but that seems a bit harsh
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>>285317481
That's Judge Doom
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>>285317488
I thought Judge Doom was the grim reaper in 2000 AD
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>>285317485
It's more about how he describes the tiny people interacting with the neutron star and how the engines, tree society etc work. The typical thing is that these authors excel at describing the absolute minute details of how the science works, but all their characters are just vehicles.
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>>285317486
He means he wants to throw her over a very high wall and drag her into the desert.
>>285317488
No, it’s Judge Reinhold.
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>>285317505
That's Judge Desu, desu.
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>>285317384
She's a small Asian lady, so anything she holds will appear larger

Any food you buy that's larger than normal will often be a novelty item of sorts. Yes footlong hotdogs are somewhat common.
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>>285317566
remember when you could get a footlong club sandwich from subway for five dollars
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>>285317583
I live in a state with sales tax, so no not really.
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>>285317583
Uhh, that would be $17,95 plus tip in 2026, sir.
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>>285317665
True story: I once got some Subway with a credit card, and when the card reader gave the option for a tip, the employee told me not to tip because it all goes to the owners and employees get none of it.
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>americans tip fast food staff before wearing their shoes to bed
Do they really
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>>285317733
yeah that's the case in a lot of places. we seriously need better labor laws by any means necessary
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>>285317733
I think it's just policy and that they have no control over the software? Same at my subway, they always tell me to hit 'no tip' (but not really since I'm a regular there, but every time they hire a new employee, they'll tell me to hit no tip)
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>>285317583
Yes. We're all like 30 years old here right? Our fandom is so old in general
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>>285301329
She's a religious fanatic. Probably celibate.
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>>285317971
there's people on /a/ right now whose only exposure to the five dollah footlong jingle is that one haruhi clip in AMV Hell
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>>285318202
Why does Hansa get a bun harem, when Kirei didn’t
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Shouldn't Reines already be Lord by now?
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>>285318297
Kirei had the chance to raise an entire schoolhouse of orphans into loyal church boys and girls and he decided mana batteries for Gilgamesh was a better alternative
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>>285318316
Nah. One way or another Waver still has the seat by 2014 (grail deconstruction turmoil)
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>>285318316
She should, but she prefers letting Waver have the el melloi title and handling all the clock tower office politics.
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>>285318326
>grail deconstruction turmoil
This whole affair is prime retcon material. A relatively major event tied to a ton of important characters that is only ever briefly touched upon.
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>>285314012
I know, I was just saying I also like her too.
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>>285318326
How would you show the Grail dismantlement in Fuyuki without canonizing what girl Shirou ended up with? Seems like it would be really hard to do in a satisfying way.
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>>285318487
The Grail dismantlement feels like something Nasu thought up after F/SN got popular and launched a franchise.
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>>285318738
By making a multiple route VN? Or following the meme 4th route that already exists?
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>>285317357
>we invent a computer that can answer any question
>by sending the answer to the past
>therefore it costs zero energy since the moment we ask the question we will receive the answer at the same time
This is just straight up magic anon
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>>285318791
I mean, you could do the 4th route from El-Melloi if you only showed Rin and neither Shirou or other Fukuki characters appeared and talked to Rin and a whole bunch of other stuff.
> By making a multiple route VN?
Not gonna happen :(
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>>285318823
man
let me tell you about the piss and shit humans
and the cannibal breedee humans
and the underage gangbangs
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>>285318316
You really think she WANTS it? When she can just dump all the responsibilities and stress on Waver? Same reason the real Spiritual Evocation lord also has some other guy doing the job. Moreover, she simply can't allow it. The instant Waver is freed from the name of El-Melloi he stops being part of her family and becomes just a debtor, and he will immediately try to distance himself from her to work on his debt and his magecraft in peace. She will move heaven and earth to stop that from happening.
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>>285317319
Skill issue
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>>285312394
we do see it in FGO babylonia during the explanation about beasts, they have a design for it already.
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>>285318316
She likes waver too much to have her brother go free.
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>>285295786
Finally got around to watching episode 2. Even after reading (some of) the manga, it was fucking weird. Are the cops just useless if both Wednesday and vampire guy dabbed on them?
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>>285318316
Do Reines look older in adventures?
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>>285319483
Not really. Might have gained an inch in height, perhaps? She was not blessed.
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>grail war in America
>not a fucking single master actually summons an American servant
They all deserve to lose and die
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>>285319518
Who would be a cool American Servant? No Presidents, that's baby mode.
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>>285319482
The zogbots just got too cocky
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>>285319518
American Heroic Spirits should be the weakest bunch unless you want to count the native americans from Age of God
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>>285316532
To grow as a person with her own beliefs
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>>285319532
Benedict Arnold assassin, Robert E. Lee rider, Muhammad Ali barbarian.
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>>285319532
there's paul bunyan (girl) iirc
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Why would you waste resource on American heroes when there are worldwide famous ancient heroes to summon?
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>>285319532
Joseph Smith (lmao)
Crazy Horse
William Tecumseh Sherman
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>>285319532
Ted Kaczynski
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>>285319532
I think Voyager is already the coolest America can get.
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>>285319550
They kinda implied that the natives saw Gilgamesh as an ancient god/ancestor spirit of the land.
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>>285319518
Look, like 4 people in this entire war summoned with a catalyst. And two of those catalysts were Gilgamesh and Heracles. Are you going to just give up your Heracles relic to summon George Washington, even in america? Fuck no. That would be stupid.
Also Haruri tried to summon Thomas Edison. She failed because her catalyst was unspecific.
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>>285319532
Lee Harvey Oswald
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>>285319550
Fame boost + territory advantage should make up for young age. At least technically. In reality, Servants are as strong as the writer decides at any given moment.
>>285319586
Canadian
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>>285319532
Tesla and Edison should fit the powerlevel of fsf
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>>285319760 (me)
Wait there was a fifth. I forgot Prelati used Prelati to summon Prelati.
But all of Fake Lancer, Fake Rider, Fake Assassin, Fake Berserker, True Assassin, and Watcher were definitely freeform summoned, while Fake Caster and True Rider had their summoning unspecified.
Flat supposedly used a toy for his relic but canonically it was a nature-based matchup and the toy did nothing.
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>>285319796
Fame boost can only take you so far. Fame boosts typically only fill in gaps, but the less gaps there are, the less there is to fill. For instance, when summoned in Japan, Cu Chulainn is probably gonna be missing Noble Phantasms and abilities that he should come with, even when limited to just the Lancer class. On the other hand, someone like Billy the Kid is more likely to have pretty much everything. The more modern you are, the more likely that the summoner is going to be able to provide everything on their own.
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>>285319847
I wish I had enough ego to opt to summon myself like that.
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>>285319847
Orlando probably used a Catalyst, given hiw he needed him for his plans and I think it was said that the fight between two women acted as the Catalyst for Hippolyta
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>>285316071
>2029
Don't do this to me Nasu... I'm still waiting for the PC release...
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>>285320110
There was also a chance Gilles would be summoned
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>>285320110
Imagine if Shirou had done it. Fucking disaster.
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>>285313182
Oh yeah not saying they didn't have reason to do it. Just that despite doing mostly good they can still have some morally dubious methods. Much better than everyone else honestly.
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>>285316532
Making Gilgamesh be the one on lolli-protection duty this time.
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>>285316945
I miss that moment in the original when Ciel tell you she called for help and imply the fucking Pope is coming.
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>>285320133
>RAM price drops just in time for Extra remake
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>>285316945
I don't really get Burial Agency powerscaling. Like apparently they're all impossibly strong monsters, but surely as far as "holy demon-killers" go, they're mostly inferior to genuine saints like Georgios and Jeanne, right? Like no matter how obscenely powerful Ciel might be, Martha was literally blessed by Jesus Christ himself. There's no way Ciel could ever be better at exorcising demons and fucking up ungodly horrors one of Christ's besties.
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>>285320521
Anon, have you ever seen the dragon George killed? It was pretty pathetic
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>>285320607
I'm sure Fate wanked it up to a Fafnir-class threat. Look at Tarasque. OG Tarasque was roughly the size of a dog.
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>>285320521
Who’s to say those people weren’t part of the burial agency of their times? Specially if they were associated with the church.
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>>285320635
Everyone except Jeanne predates the Burial Agency. Jeanne definitely wasn't a member given she was busy with the war.
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>>285320315
Is he unironically gay?
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>>285320627
I'm gonna blame that one on DnD
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>>285320696
I think she’s still 15 there, so it makes sense.
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Iskandar unironically wanted Waver to fuck Taiga
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>>285320521
Ciel is outright stated to have one of the highest if not the highest mana generation cacacity among TM works. And her profile in FGO reflects this.
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/pol/ probably went crazy when Spooky killed all those politicians
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>>285320854
So she's better than Jesus. Welp, you heard it here, folks. Ciel would beat up Jesus. She hates him that much.
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>>285320696
Doesn't he wants to have his asshole rammed by Iskandar's conqueror monster cock?
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>>285320879
Jesus wasn't an executor hunting down vampires.
And just because you've been blessed by him doesn't mean you have the same powers as him.
For the record Ciel is stated to have been blessed by the birth of an Angel.
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>>285320938
Wait, no, I got it wrong. Ciel herself is likened to an Angel:
>Gift_Clarion: –
>The extremely rare talent to ■■■■■■. A department within the Church described it as being ‘blessed with the birth of an angel’. Conversely, a certain mage dismissed it as nothing more than an innate defect.

And for the record what the Church considers Angels differs from those of the Mages Association. They're the real deal not like that phony Jeanne Metatron.
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>>285320696
The one anime special made him look rather gay, but in general it's more of a meme/fanon thing, and no small part of people wanting him to be. Dude's dedicated to a king who was a known boyfucker, so it's impossible to escape the allegations just from that. There's also that he's single at his age and keeps rejecting jailbait, which many will immediately attribute to veing a raging homo.

In reality, it probably has to do with the fact that he's unbelievably busy, spent the last decade thinking he was gonna go die in a war that most of his female acquaintances are underage, and that 90% of adult female mages are fucking vipers so it ain't woth it.

If you consider it canon, that side story where he meets Taiga is the one time he's shown to be bashful about the topic. Could be nothing, or it could be the one hint that the true purpose of Nasu creating him earlier than Zero was for him to save Taiga from becoming a cat lady during the Dismantling war, and there's a secret mandate to forbid any relationship as a result. The thing is, we'll never get confirmation either way, so all schizo theories are valid.
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>>285321067
If only Waver could have been there to save Taiga from becoming a single hag...
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>>285320938
Jesus has a different type of power
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>>285321067
Thanks. So it feels like the typical situation of an originally straight character getting pushed into gayness by fujo type fans to the point it's halfway canon. I don't like that kind of thing.
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>>285320879
Ciel is so FUARKING stronk,I hope she doesn't break the universe by accident...
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>>285321100
Why did she bow like a Japanese when she's Native American?
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>>285321100
Oh GOD that Tine
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>>285319586
She'd be too strange a fake.
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>>285321166
Dunno if I could call him strictly straight rather than someone who wasn't meant to have a romance as part of his character in the first place. But Fate has shipping in its DNA from the start, so it was inevitable it would come to this.

In practice though, regardless of where he swings, Waver is a serious mage, which means he will 100% end up marrying a lady to continue the lineage. When he has time.
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>>285321166
>>285320696
>Sensha Otoko
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>>285320696
>The moment he saw the silhouette of the big frame slowly rising from the summoning circle, behind the white smoke, Waver was so exalted he almost came in his pants.
Yerp but it doesn't really matter since the gacha has a habit of making characters for (You).
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>>285321435
>since the gacha has a habit of making characters for (You)
What does that means?
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>>285321166
FGO is famous for its brand of 'Master Love' where the characters all want to fuck (You). All the chinese gachas copied this to mean that no character will interact with any other character of the opposite gender as they are for (You) only. Fate still has some established shipping couples they push like that one but it's also sucking up the protagonist a lot as you can give your servants chocolates and the valentines scenes and events often have romantic undertones
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>>285321503
FGO is where the Master Love aka ML term came from.
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>>285321369
Considering his original station, Reines would probably make the best pairing, if he has interest in furthering his bloodline the 'magelike' way, even if his kid wouldn't inherit Reines crest, as she claims. If he was acting purely as a mage, he has 0 reason to refuse her. Then again, they could easily give him some secret admirer who's an even better fit.
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>>285321507
>>285321528
Except for all the Servants in love with someone else of course.
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>>285321503
FGO is the ultimate self-insert expetience, in line with every Gacha. Servants love and admire (you) above all else and if they're from a previous entry where they had a love interest... well we'll make their memories haxy but have them still make clear that (you) are da best.
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>>285321603
The most autistic thing that can happen is that they make it clear that they are a different copy.
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>>285319518
Tesla is literally the only strong fighter they could have and he's not even theirs to begin with
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>>285316532
POETRY because now Gil is defending a loli and Herc is trying to kill it.
...And it goes nowhere because Gil is not allowed to fail.
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>>285319532
Curtis LeMay lol
Or William T. Sherman
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>>285301107
Oh I actually had no idea, cool. I saw this when you posted it and forgot to respond
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>>285321625
FGO is an extremely shipper heavy game where servants are paired together much like genshin impact.
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>>285322433
stop lying
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Who took it between Gilles and Prelati?
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>>285323697
Wouldn't fucking Trimmau make you end up like Qin Shi Huan?
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>>285323825
Maybe she'd just store the semen to be used later?
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>>285323954
fuck off
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>Charlemagne vs Richard
>Emiya vs Gil
>Liz vs Enkidu
>Medusa vs Hippo
>Gilles vs Dumas
>Lubu vs Jack
>Li Shuwen vs Zealot
Is Extra/Extella the only servant cast that can match Strange Fake cast?
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>>285324108
FSN
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>>285318738
He doesn't end up with Saber in any route, Rin and Sakura can share him I guess, since he is abroad saving people he closer to UBW and Rin. In the end of the UBW anime he literally meets Waver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GmSZCh0M-g and i guess that's the canon they will use forever
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>>285318738
It's not like he has to end up with Saber, Rin or Sakura since Redman obviously didn't end up with any girls.
Besides, time wasting on women is time not spending on saving people.
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>>285324195
Last Episode
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>>285320859
>killed a promising presidential candidate (in 2008)
did spooky kill hillary?
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>>285320395
>>285321809
That doesn't even mean anything because Gil barely gives a single fuck about Tine while protecting Illya was everything to Herc. As a revenge match (which it isn't, since Alc doesn't remember the fifth war) it has no oomph.
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>>285324108
>Charlemagne wins
>Gil wins
>Enkidu wins
>Hippo wins
>Dumas wins
>Jack wins
>Zealot wins
''match''
lol
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>>285324160
Assuming they have a similar mana source as in SF
>Richard
Beaten by Herc and Cu/Artoria/Medusa would be advantageous against him. Medea stands a chance but having Nimue on his side gives Richard a nasty surprise or two.
>Gil
Artoria with Avalon? Himself? He doesn't really have a counter in the 5th.
>Enkidu
Gil? Realistically no one else there is putting up a real fight. Emiya tactics won't work against Enkidu like they work against Gil.
>Pale Rider
Is anyone capable of attacking it? Medea could pull some bullshit maybe? Gil could break the reality marble. You have to hunt down its Master somehow.
>Zealot
Yeah she's getting no-diffed by everyone including Cursed Arm. She's an idiot who would try to fight head on.
>Jack
Herc and Gil for sure, rest I'm less certain about. UBW would counter From Hell pretty strongly and probably skewer his weakened form(s) but 200 A+ rank demons attacking any of the other servants could be very lethal.
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>>285325046
>Alcides
He could get Excalibeamed and it's possible Gil would win but he does have a free revival. Maybe Medea could cook up some real bullshit due to knowing him. Everyone else including Herc are super duper screwed. Even if Cu could get into position to Gae Bolg him he'll just revive and shove his bow up his ass.

>Sigma
???
>Charlie Chaplin
King of Comedy no-diffs the entire war by turning it into a farce.

>Hippo
She'd get Herc'd, most obviously. Gil also heavily counters her. With her reinforced stats by cheat-master-team she could put up a fight with the rest of the cast for sure but Medusa might petrify her. She's a very straightforward but strong servant.

>Spooky
Instinct might counter him but you need to stay right next to your Master to keep them safe. No one in the war has a solution to lol shadowman claiming their master's life. He can't really fight but doesn't have to either.

>Prelati
Zouken'd, but he just isn't that good of a caster. Good at disrupting others but the illusions aren't going to win anything. Would work well in a team though.

>Huwawa
With only Haruri she isn't doing much. Herc and Gil mulch her for sure but she'd make a great Fuyuki temple guardian. That just isn't going to win anything.
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It always bothered me that Herc doesn't have EX STR and END. And that he has a high LCK stat. His lack of LCK got him killed, it should be E.
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>>285324338
>New ending written 8 years after original release
I mean, it's true that it exists, I won't deny that, but it's hard to see it as part of the intended narrative. It's clearly more of a profit commercial decision, and in no small part due to Takeuchi breathing down Nasu's neck.
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>>285325146
Nasu said that he thought a lot to find a way to make it fit with the themes
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>>285325452
Yeah, he thought a lot about it with dollar signs in his eyes.
All it means is that he had enough integrity to not half-ass his retcon..
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>>285295786
As someone who got disullusioned with Fate following the FGO prevalence, I'm liking this a lot so far, it's feeling like an emsemble war even if Ayaka and Saber are the main characters (or at least they look like they're gonna be the main characters, could be wrong on that, I'm an anime-only). I hope it doesn't go the same way as Apocrypha who promised a faction war only for one side to lose horribly early and then have a main character hogging the spotlight. At least I trust the author on this since he made Durarara, and the emsemble cast there was well done imo.
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>>285323954
The glasses stay on.
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>>285325649
People would have probably accepted Sieg more easily if they hadn't basically killed off one of the two teams in the literal beginning
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>>285325586
It's a canon ending to the Fate route either way
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>>285323697
Why hasn't Reines replaced Waver as Lord El-Melloi yet? Isn't she already of age?
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>>285325649
This isn't really a faction war, however.
The character writing on the other hand is a lot better here than Apocrypha at the very least
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>>285325842

>>285318316
>>285319415
tl;dr the lord seat is her chain on Waver's neck.
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>>285325755
I agree with that. He and Jeanne (who was supposed to be the protagonist in the middle of the two sides) could have been the MCs, but at least don't drop the 7 vs 7 Masters plot that was the main attractive of the show. It felt like Apocrypha should have been longer than 5 volumes and was rushed as a result.
>>285325850
Perhaps faction war is not the correct term, but it does features a larger cast than your usual grail war and seems like it's gonna be a true emsemble at one point.
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>>285321100
I can see why conquistadores risked their lives crossing the Pacific to reach America.
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God, Reines is so fucking hot.
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>>285320696
He's hinted to be gay. Reines asked if he was a virgin and he doesn't answer. Apparently it's implied in the Zero novels that he mana transferred with Alexander.
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What was that laughter that appeared when Wednesday used Cursed Arm's Zabaniya during episode 2?
Does that ever get explained?
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I'm rooting for the glowie
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>>285300994
Waver recanted his position about pedigree after the 4th Holy Grail War. He himself acknowledges he was stupid and naive when he wrote that paper, and his own career as a mage is going nowhere because he has no lineage of his own. The only thing Waver is good for is analyzing other mages and their research to give them advice on where to focus. The only reason he's able to do that in his position is thanks to being given the Lord El Melloi title, which he didn't earn in the first place.
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>>285326819
Holy deformed anatomy
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>>285300186
that classroom has the next generation of like 100 different powerful bloodlines learning in it, of course it's a powerful subfaction within the Clock Tower. They'd still all get bodied by Lord Lorelei in a heartbeat regardless, but their real strength is the fact that Waver has united them with a common cause, even if they normally would never spend more than a few seconds in the same room with each other because mages aren't supposed to make friends.
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>>285327173
it's the Addams Family's laugh track
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>>285325146
>New ending written 8 years after original release
Only 3 years actually
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>>285327371
so what happens in "The Beginning of After Time"
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>>285304306
>>285305118
>>285305629
finished reading this one and finally looked at that spoiler, and man that felt so lame after reading it, I don't mind that the character died, it just felt like a contrived way to do it, and equally contrived that apparently they had a seal team of snipers but couldn't shoot 2 people at the same time for reasons, and it's not like they couldn't just shoot ayaka too and had a magic barrier that was protecting her block it or something, I don't know it just felt lame like the plot needed him gone rather than something more naturally woven into the plot if that makes sense

also, on the other side of the coin it's kind of annoying that we're like what, 6 books in and we had like 2 deaths? sort of? cause gilgamesh may have some bullshit tied to him considering his body is still there, and all the fights up to that point that were stopped for "reasons" that felt like the plot just demanded it, like francesca popping up out of nowhere and somehow getting everyone to chill out, TWICE might I add, well 3 times if we count the cerberus stuff in this book

anyways... onto book 7 I guess, almost up to date now
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>>285327381
The classroom is mostly full of the discarded spares of first class magus bloodlines or the children of mediocre bloodlines without much history. Waver just turned them all into first class mages by giving them perfect guidance based on his analysis of their strengths.
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>>285327717
I'm hoping the final volume has Richard start doing war crimes to thin the herd.
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Is Flat really dead forever? Since he's a major character in the other series I thought Narita would have to bring him back.
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>>285327872
Flat is his character so he can do whatever he wants with him
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>>285327872
Thia's probably gonna bullshit him back to life
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>>285325649
It's Apocrypha but good. Purely because the cool servants that are summoned are actually allowed to fight all out, instead of subverting you by randomly dying through bullshit ways.
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>>285328205
Dumas would say this
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>>285328205
IS THAT MOTHERFUCKING JOHN WYNGARD? A MODERN DAY MAN ACKNOWLEDGED BY HERACLES AS COMPETENT?
USA
USA
USA
USA
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>>285321625
>>285322433
Which one is telling truth?
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>>285328228
JOHN FATE HIMSELF AMERICA FUCK YEAH
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>>285328241
80% of FGO women are for (You) but purityfags will declare them to be shipbait if they've ever looked at another man in their past or whatever.
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>>285327561
Hollow Ataraxia/CCC/KT
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>>285328241
Most girls are objectively for someone else with a few pity girls being for the protagonist every few years. And even the girls that get shipped with the protag like castoria end up getting shipped with muramasa or other characters in the end. The trick they play is that girls who are for you, the writer can change their mind a few years later, like with BB. It's happened like six or seven times over the years.
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>>285328270
Then there is oddity like Andromeda, who's entire reason for being here is because she want her hubby to feel better.

Perseus is STILL not in the game btw.
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>>285325046
>>Zealot
>Yeah she's getting no-diffed by everyone including Cursed Arm. She's an idiot who would try to fight head on.
Invincible plot armor though
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>>285321625
>>285322433
>>285328241
>>285328270
>>285328670
This isn't mass reply spam or anything, just a reminder that Mash was supposed to be for (You) but she got the most dedicated cuckplot where she marries a furry. The cope over it was insane, like HURRDURR NOBODY CARES ABOUT MASH or GOOD NOW THEY CAN FOCUS ON THE BETTER GIRLS it was so pathetic.
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>>285316417
He is also cool as fuck.
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>>285320315
>>285323697
the funny part is that with how reines is, she may have maybe gone with it if he said yes.
For all her sadism reines actually likes waver.
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>>285329028
lmao
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>>285328729
Man I hate FGO so much.
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>>285328995
>online driving school
What
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>>285328729
Only the most sensitive cowards were bothered by the "cuckplot".
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>>285329194
you know if you google those three words you'll see one for your local state
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>>285329204
>>285329226
How do you even learn how to drive online. I know what those words mean they just don't make any sense. You play Grand Theft Auto with a wheel peripheral?
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>>285329249
It's not wizardry, it's a wheel and some pedals. Videos, instructions, and in the modern day, a VR headset to see things from the driver's seat is more than enough.
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>>285329316
That's not the same at all.
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>>285329464
Again: it's not witchcraft. It's good enough, and once you have all the fundamentals and dos and don'ts, the actual mechanism of getting behind a wheel and maneuvering a steel beast can be learned through 30 minutes in a parking lot.
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>>285328729
>NOBODY CARES ABOUT MASH
That is a fact.
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>>285329488
I wish I knew how to drive
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>>285329485
What about the freeway?
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>>285328729
Mashu is sexy.
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>>285329574
What about the damn freeway. You know the left lane is for passing. The actual truth of the road depends on the driving behavior of your region, of course, but it's a road anon.
Driving is simple. Thousands of niggers do it every day.
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>>285328670
Perseus is a lucky bastard; got a cute gyaru tomboy wife who gave him like 9 kids, saved his mother and step-dad, got his happy ending and all.
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>>285329607
Freeways are scary
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/fgog/ got really mad at Takenoko for giving Suzuka a love interest while she wasn't for (you)
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>>285329754
/fgoalter/ loves Kriemhild even though she is for Siegfried.
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>>285329631
Is he still a shinjiface?
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>>285329803
/fgog/ did too
Spent years collectively coming up with a fanfic version of her
Pretty close to the actual thing
I know because I was one of them
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>>285329846
Kinda?
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>>285329846
He's a servant in Fate/Prototype
Master is a cancer patient about to die, master uses all his command seals to incarnate Perseus so Perseus can live in place of the master
Then the master dies in the hospital
Perseus then decides to just start killing people to get the grail, so he can bring his master back to life
Low tier stats but he has like six NPs
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>>285330169
Strength: D+
Endurance: E+
Agility: B+
Magic: B+
Luck: A+
Noble Phantasm: A B C D E

Comment from Takeuchi Takashi: When compared, a lot of spoilers appear. His design is quite rare, which I really like. When he’s wearing his school uniform, he’s an interestingly two-sided character.

Explanation: A Servant who lost his Master. Often dresses up as a student. Is in the same year as Ayaka. Has gentle looks, and at first glance is a trendy, nice looking man. Although he has sociable manners, is easily moved, and is a gentle hearted young man, he has the flaw that, once motivated to do something, he will not stop until he gives it his all and then some more. In this sense, he is also an anomaly.
Once he decided to stain his hands with wrongdoing, he became capable of killing innocents with a gentle manner and smile. His true name is that of a hero from Greek mythology, Perseus. Among the Servants, only he obtained an ending that wasn’t a “bad end”. Although he possesses numerous Noble Phantasms, he is restricted to only being able to use one at a time. The flying winged sandals, the mantle which changes its wearer’s appearance (in the myth it is a helmet), the mirror shield bestowed by Athena (radar, sonar), the serpent-hunting sickle Harpe (kills immortals), the bag that held the demon’s severed head, Kibisis (Mirrored bounded field), and finally the same pegasus’ bridle as in Fate/stay night (Bellerophon).
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Still gets me that they wanted Andromeda to be a "girl power" servant
Gave her basically all A tier stats far stronger than Perseus
And her backstory is "She hated that she was saved by Perseus and she wished she beat up the whale and saved herself back in the day without needing help" despite being the origin of the damsel in distress saved by the knight story
Her NP also summons and controls the whale that was going to eat her, despite that making no sense because her legend was never about riding it or controlling it
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>>285330201
wtf why is he a shitter
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>>285330285
Write her off as a singularity servant like Edison. Something that happens in a nonsense occurrence, but that nonsense is also where we landed and observed.
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>>285330463
Because Perseus is a shit league hero bolstered only because FIVE gods took pity on him.
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>>285330463
Back then, it was the price of having a lot of NPs. Fate/Prototype was supposed to be the original Fate story before it massively got rewritten into FSN. A lot of shit got changed in the final product. Stats were way more balanced in the original version, no one was ever walking around with all A rank stats.

Even Gilgamesh had like C tier stats back then
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>>285316417
>Inuyashiki
Just got reading this cause of this, pretty decent. Kinda felt like I'd read it before, probably just cause of who the artist is.
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>>285330506
Shit, stats actually made more sense back then.
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>>285330285
Anon, Medusa can summon and control Pegasus just cause was born from her
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>>285330508
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>>285316508
Might've been because of these too.
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>>285330506
>Fate/Prototype was supposed to be the original Fate story before it massively got rewritten into FSN
Let's also be clear that "the prototype Fate/Stay Night" and what is now known as "Fate/Prototype" are distinctly different entities, with the latter being well rewritten for a post-F/SN world.
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>>285330525
>just cause was born from her
Fate goes with the legend that Pegasus was a gift to Medusa from Poseidon.
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>>285330463
He’s a servant from the old days where they actually tried to balance servants nowadays they give modern servants busted stats with good skills and noble phantasm.
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>>285330584
No it doesn't. Pegasus was literally born from her. The reason she needs to stab herself in order to summon Pegasus was because it was literally born from her blood.
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>>285330506
I miss casual Gilgamesh having the spiky hair too, I don't like hair down Gil much.
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>>285330584
Fine, Iskander with IH, then
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>>285330557
They were the same, but eventually it got rewritten into a slightly different story. Prototype is entirely based on the prototype of FSN, and a lot of the original concepts from FSN that got axed during development. Ayaka was meant to be the main character, Arthur was meant to be male, everything you see in prototype is what FSN was meant to be at one point, and when you read Prototype notes you suddenly realize that the story originally made a lot more sense before the rewrites. Seven masters, seven orders of angels, Beast of Babylon being in the grail instead of Angra, Arthur vs a devil figure (instead of angra), everything just makes way more sense with the original lore. A lot of plotpoints in FSN make more sense when you see what they were "meant" to be originally.

Now here's the important part that people miss; Prototype as a story has never actually been written. It just exists as a loose concept and a loose series of notes by Nasu so far.
Sakurai was allowed to write a prequel to Prototype called "Prototype Red and Blue" which would eventually lead into Prototype, but the actual story of Prototype has not been fully told yet.
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>>285330655
They changed some things around. The original Rider in Nasu's initial draft was Theseus. He was replaced by Medusa in Fate/stay night. Then when they made the Fate/Prototype segment for Carnival Phantasm, he was once again replaced, this time by Perseus.



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