explain yourself, /a/.
>>285382780Wait a secondIs eva about toxic male relationships and the harmful expectations of patriarchal culture?
>>285382780I'm not involved in this double standard, I just think Shinji needs an actual father
Rei doesn't whine and cry about getting in the robot so that humanity isn't exterminated.
>>285382780Men and women are different
>>285382853>>285382888/thread
>>285382888Yeah but this isn't one of the differences
>>285382780Legalize polygamy. Marry Rei and Shinji. Prevent instrumentality.
me on the bottom left saying everything on the bottom right to rei
>>285382780Personality traits on women are mostly up to your tastes. Essentially any personality will be considered endearing by somw group of men, some men want fiery extroverts who are loud and confident, some men want quiet introverts who will hide behind them. All in all it's not as important because the man is the protector in the relationship, so a woman being "weak" personality wise doesn't matter as they aren't the one that needs to be strong. Conversely as the protector the man is expected to be strong so they are afforded less differences in "ideal" personality types, all men at minimum have to be confident and sure of themselves so they can at least make women think they're willing to be a protector. A man who cries in the corner and has no self esteem or confidence at all is seen as weak and not good as a protector which is one of men's only biological duties, thus making them a failure. This is not a double standard because men and women are inherently different and this are held to different standards
>>285382780>ShinjiBoring and average skinny guy>ReiHot as fuck cute mysterious girl
rei had bigger tits than shinji has musclesno one would care about rei if she were flat except the small percentage of freaks into that
>>285382961Correct, but your post is too good for this shitpost of a thread.
>>285382921Yes it is
>>285382780Rei is an introvert but that doesn't mean she's shy.
>>285382888source?
>>285383253
>>285382780Rei is not shy.
>>285382780submissiveness is feminineget in the fucking robot
>>285383419Girl goes in robot.
>>285382780Are you suggesting we treat Shinji like a woman, OP?
>>285382961>Conversely as the protector the man is expected to be strong so they are afforded less differences in "ideal" personality types, all men at minimum have to be confident and sure of themselves so they can at least make women think they're willing to be a protectorThat's completely backwards though; it's men who create the masculine culture that demands adherence to these standards. It's enforced by ridicule, ritualized accusations of lacking manliness or of being homosexual. All criticism of Shinji for not getting in the robot comes from men.
>>285382888shocking truth!
>>285382780Women represent Yin, the negative receptive force, while men represent Yang, the positive giving force. Women are allowed to be vacant and passive because that is their role. Men are not.
>>285383548>All criticism of Shinji for not getting in the robot comes from men.Why do you have to lie? There's plenty of women reviewers calling Shinji a little bitch.
>>285382847>Is eva about toxic male relationshipsThat's more Hokuto no Ken and it's more about comparing and contrasting in that series between the toxic/traumatized as fuck guys and the ones who grew up well/stable or had the help they needed.
>>285383675That's because Shinji is a violent misogynist, not because he's simply "weak"
>>285382780
>>285382780Bitches love Shinji and the gay fandom have practically called vicarious dibs on him through Kaworu and they will never let him go.
>>285383548There's a difference between all the standards we create for modern masculinity and what the bare minimum is for women, mainly self confidence. Further ideas like "men can't show emotion" and such are indeed modern inventions but there's still a biological basis for women wanting certain traits in men. Women will even like introverted or shy men as long as they are confident and have a high self esteem, both of which Shinji lacks
>>285383548>it's men who create the masculine culture that demands adherence to these standardssure, but you'd be disingenuous to imply that women don't also enforce said standards because they benefit them. the culture can be both created by men and supported by anyone who benefits from it or views it as good, including women>all criticism of Shinji for not getting in the robot comes from men"women would never criticize men for lacking confidence or the will to take action" do you hear yourself? that's retarded
>>285382780I'd fuck both desu
>>285384103It's as simple as this: no woman has ever called me a faggot to try to police my behavior or gain power over me socially. It's always been misogynist losers with grand theories about men and women who play that game.
>>285384279i'm glad you haven't had the misfortune of meeting a woman like that
>>285384039>Spend years whining about how males can't show emotions >Men finally do: OMG! SAM AND FRODO ARE SOOOOOOO GAY SQUEEE!!And this is why stoicism is popular.
people would like shinji if she started estrogen replacement.
>>285383520It's traditional to do so.
>>285383825To be fair, Episode 24 is VERY gay.
>>285382780Today I shall remind them.
>>285382780Men and women are biologically different--thus it makes sense to treat them differently. Shinji is a whiny little bitch who does nothing when all he needed to do was get in the fucking robot and do his duty. Rei is cute and sells lots of merch.Hope that helps.
>>285384336>spend years whining about not getting positive attention from women>invent justifications for continually dehumanizing yourself so that there's no points of connection for positive attention possible>spend more years whining about not getting positive attention from womenLooking up stoicism on wikipedia or putting Marcus Aurelius in your amazon cart before pulling up a tiktok video from an account with a Roman bust pfp is popular because it's a cult that protects the egos of the worthless
>>285384526That... actually makes perfect sense
>>285382888Thread ended here by the way.
>>285384526Holy shit...
>>285384526I thought this was obvious. Why haven't more people recognized this truth? This is why genderbent Eva would be superior.
>>285382780I like girls
>>285382853Shinji doesn't do that anywhere near as much as I was expecting based on how people spoke about him before I finally got around to watching EVA for the first time
>>285384526This faggot was using reddit spacing in 2006? Has the infestation developed time travel? Seriously though he's completely right. Shinji is a perfectly fine character who gets a lot of undue hate. Reminds me a lot of Tidus from FFX. Well, except FFX is actually good.
>>285387018>reddit spacingi still don't understand how this meme got as far as it did, kindergarten-tier cooties shit
>>285382780If you thing that people should be kinder to you because you are "shy", unironically man or just kill yourself.Weak men shouldnt be allowed to exist, just because society wants to destroy men doesnt mean that you should allow them to destroy/ hurt you.
>>285382847Bad anon you can't say that
>>285387018>>285387152Isn't reddit spacing specifically what I'm doing right now with the space between the (you)s and the reply rather than spaces between paragraphs in general? At least that's how I remember it being used.
>>285383214Explain
>>285384526huhi cant see any falsities here
>>285387274no that's not what reddit spacing is, its putting spaces between the paragraphs because on (old) reddit you need to hit enter twice to make a new linewhat looks like paragraphs seperated by a blank line here, would just look like a new line on reddit, like this post
>>285387120He never runs away tho, in the end shinji has backbone and does what is needed for every battle he is in. Always gives his all and always comes out on top whether by is own will and grit or with the Eva's help when it goes berserk. Mari even mentions it in one of the super robot wars games, that he has a backbone and thats why the other girls are crazy over him. Shinji is a actually really chill character, even cooks for the ladies.
>>285387750>He never runs away thoexcept those times when he ran away
>>285383680Hokuto no Ken is about how fucked up it would be if men believed in astrology.
>>285387843He always came back and faced whatever he had to do
>>285382780OP struggles with realizing that feminine qualities are attractive on women and unattractive on men.
>>285387290Men are more aggressive and confident so those are seen as more masculine qualities. It's not just a societal thing either. Testosterone amplifies those traits.
>>285382780>explain basic biology.Men cant get pregnant, there is no need to protect them or care about them as much as you should with a female.Women are weaker, get pregnant and handicapped after giving birth. They need more protection and special care.This gets engraved in the genetic memory and will continue to do so regardless of time and ideologies. I do not care if you like sucking dick or putting it on other boys asscheeks, to me you are GAYER than them if you were born with a dick and want someone to protect you and care about your feelings.And it works the other way around too. I firmly believe women are INFERIOR to men if they have not successfully after adulthood produced offspring and nurtured them. Sure, they can do the same things men can but few can do it as efficiently as them so an adult woman who hasn't produced babies and cared about them is to me as pathetic and useless as a man who cries like a bitch and gets depressed instead of working to get what he wants and needs.
>>285384279>It's as simple as this: no woman has ever called meYou're on 4chan with a bad anecdotal take, it's obvious to everyone, anon.
>>285384357That's just Rei, her personality was literally designed in for show to be Shinji's Jungian Anima
>>285384526Damn. That's actually valid despite sounding like a shitpost.
>>285388070That's not the same as being an extrovert
>>285388136What you're trying to do right now is the exact sort of social control of men by men that I'm talking about lol
>>285382780Mecha is just an awkward genre for it. Being a mecha MC used to mean something in its early days.
>>285388241nah sorry but if you're an introvert guy you're simply in an outright worse position and you have to accept struggling harder
>>285388241OP doesn't know what introvert means and is using it wrong. He clearly intended something along the lines of shy, meek, or demure.
>>285388011>>285388070its because global test rates keep dropping
>>285388243And yet an untouched faggot you remain. Curious.
>>285388453And yet still no woman has called me a faggot. It's always men who want to blame women for disorder who try to use these words to control me.
>>285388191no one like Rei. if she had a penis they would.
>>285388712Rei with a Penis is just Shinji when he gets really depressed and emotionless
>>285387886This.
but shinji is cute and very popular among both fujos and homos...
>>285382780If this was true why is Shinji and Kowaru so popular on twitter?
>>285388712Most people love her, you are just gay fren, sorry
This thread just boils down to "cute submissive girls are loved while cute submissive boys aren't."
>>285390289Westerners like Asuka and East Asians like Rei generally
>>285390423Most people don't like Asuka generally.
>>285390417well yeah, OP was obviously a cute submissive boy embittered by the double standards
>>285390443Asuka from the original series was pretty good, the problem is her rebuild character generally
>>285390500Her rebuild version is more liked, I'm afraid. It's weird because while they make her more digestible and approachable initially, she becomes crueler than she ever was in the original.
>>285390500Japan started liking Asuka more with the Rebuilds. They went from Rei dominating popularity polls to Rei and Asuka trading 1st.
>>285382888this
>>285382780This shit made me tear up 1/3
>>2853909062/3
>>2853909263/3
>>285388944As a bottom. As a sub. People "like" Shinji because they envision him taking a cock up the ass.
>>285387152>>285387274>>285387622What I don't get is how more people aren't calling out faggots who write purely or too long into the subject line. Like they were making a reddit thread. Am I really the only one bothered by this?
>>285390568Meh, Shinji is written to be extra stupid by 3.0 so her reactions by the end make sense
>>285391117I haven't noticed it but then again I literally didn't realize a girl was asking me out until like three months after the fact so I'm the wrong guy to ask.
>>285382780females being shy introvert are hot.
>>285382780Rei is best girlShinji is best twink
>>285382780>Rei>shyOP is a fucking retard.
>>285391047people like rei for the same reason.
>>285393045Hot take: Unit-00 has the best color scheme of the Evas. Blue with black and white accents is peak.
>>285382888yea, but only when it benefits women.fuckin simp.
>>285383419Submissiveness is doing what you're told/coomplying with orders.
>>285383675women don't have original thoughts.
>>285384357kill yourself
>>285384581>muh dutyHe doesn't owe anyone a fucking thing. What the hell did they do for him? Not even the bare minimum. Fuck humanity, fuck gendo, and fuck you
>>285391047Not everything is prison -gay bullshit, meathead.
>>285382780There's nothing to explain. I'm tired of how people work. I can't change how people work. No one person can.
>>285393479Tell that to Anno after 3.0.And, hell, Shinji might as well be a sub for Mari given that his entire "happy ending" is basically letting her take him by the hand and pull him where she wants to go.
>>285393765Anno is dogshit
Women aren't expected to do anything other than look pretty and not cheat. Men are expected to not only provide as a partner but also be a girl's father. This is bad everywhere these days, but especially bad in moonland. Starfish girls calling everyone who doesn't bend over backward for them an herbivore. This, in turn, bleeds into the writing.
>>285394034>Starfish girlsWhat?
>>285394123Basically women who just lay there and don't participate in sex, gets its name from being splayed out like a starfish. Dead fish also works. It's usually used in context of sex, but it goes further than that, women just don't have to put in any real effort to date a man and let him do all the work, acting like a princess. Basically why they can get away with being shy wallflowers but the moment a guy does it he's an enemy to all women. It's just the complex they tend to have over there to an extreme, Nip women would rather wither away and die than make the first move, lest they be seen as a hussy.
>>285382888Checked and keked.
>>285382888Annotated bibliography? And make sure it's Chicago style, I don't want no MLA bullshit
>>285393900that other anon was right, this is pretty good if you pretend they are girls instead
>>285393182The girls' units' color theme reflects their personalities. However, I like the other units' armor more than Unit 00's. Looks like a special-needs helmet.
>>285387886Haha this is fucking gold.
>>285382780>Rei>Actual introvert>Shitji>Bitch ass niggaSimple as
>>285391117the truth is the biggest complainers of reddit are themselves from reddit
Rei is not shy, she's an emotionless doll. She's a plot device, not a character.
>>285382780Nerds hate Shinji because they see themself in him, also they see as adults every opportunity to fuck he missed and gets ptsd
>>285390906>>285390926>>285390942
>>285387886Fuck I love that post. I don't remember if it's from the storytime older but it's actually true.However in the end it's also about how grooming is cool and everyone should encourage you to fuck the (formerly) little girls you helped inadvertandly take care of.
I'm a guy like shinji and now I'm a 28 year old dateless virgin I do not contribute to society in any way and have no reason toNobody has ever loved meAll I've ever done wrong is be myself
>>285382780Men are judged on their ability to provide, women are judged on their ability to give birth to a healthy child. Being a shy introvert was negatively correlated with being a good provider for most of human history, still is in most cases. Being a shy introvert is neutral for giving birth, physical attributes are a much better metric.
>>285383548It's men's biology that create those standards. They're both physically stronger and also not the bottleneck for reproduction and thus more expendable. So they're naturally the ones who take risks and protect the women in all societies and our instincts have evolved to support that.
>>285387120I hope that whoever make that comic was joking and not actually that retarded.
>>285397762>I do not contribute to society in any way and have no reason toYou are not like Shinji
>>285382853She doesn't have a personality either.
>>285386107No one would care about genderbend Eva>Evidence: the last 30 years
>>285397945Shinji only contributed to society because of nepotismhis dad is someone important and got him a job with no effort on his ownIf my family was the same I would be the sameinstead they are just as heartless and lacking love but with none of the money or connectionsI am actually worse off than shinji, through no fault of my own
>>285398194It would have been a better story if humanity ended up going extinct because Shinji shrugged. Would be a fitting end for a species that cares so little about each other and it's offspring.
>>285382780are you new on Earth???
>>285398571gendo got his just desserts by getting ripped in half and yui ended up alone in space for all eternitythe rest of the world shouldn't suffer for their cruelty, the fact shinji still chose to live in shit ass reality at the end of it all is what makes eva so inspiring I know I wouldn't have made the same choice
