Volume 43: The Man with the TruthChapter 391: Thunderclap...!Previous chapters:>>285406345>>285381837 Previous Volume: https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/285162082/Start: https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274143504/
>>285431191>Colored scansWhat a fucking joke
It's just zetsu talking isn't it? Kishi please end this disaster battle I am booooooooored
>>285431257There must have been a better way to handle exposition.
>>285431276>jobber flames defeat the casterKekaroooo
>>285431231>>285431253>>285431276Shikamaru would need 3 days and multiple chapters of prep-time to accomplish this btw.
>>285431257>>285431296Exposition is pointless. It's clear what is happening and what Sasuke tried to do
>>285431231>two undirected fireballs had enough energy to create a massive cumulonimbus cloud>in 2 minutesAbsolute fucking BULLSHIT lmao
>>285431183Hello slave-kun.
>>285431297I thought Haku was already light speed?Why is speed of sound considered impressive now?
>>285431344>>285431373KWABtachi
>>285431344>>285431373Would 4 tails Naruto tank this?
>>285431253>>285431231Sounds a little hokey..
>>285431395Probably.
Can someone explain to me why Itachi didn't let himself be killed here?Or is Itachi too prideful to give Sasuke the satisfaction of actually killing him?>OroItachi couldn't have known Sasuke absorbed him.
>>285431409>Clothtes are torn apartOk, that means Itachi didn't even use susan to block that, he just TANKED IT!?!?
>>285431435Because Kishimoto is writing this
>>285431435Because a clean kill wouldn't scar Sasuke mentally enough and he might go back to the village to be with his friends.
>>285431297I don't think seconds is a measurement of speed.
>>285431440Should've double tapped >>285431495I thought Itachi was throwing the fight?
>>285431495ENTER bullshit
>>285431338How weren't people constantly using this on accident?
>>285431440>finally I killed him. I can go back and we can end this manga as one of the greatest of all tim-GOD DAMN ITwe were so close
>>285431527It was a very BIG fire ball with Sage chakra.
>>285431521Aiiieeeeee the ultimate zogbot pulls out trump card
>Kirin attacks>Itachi activates the Susanoo at the last possible moment>Turns it off>Gets down to lie on the ground>Pretends to be dead>"Hehe is this the death you had imagined for me?">Gets up and activates Susanoo again for dramatic revealWhat the fuck is going on?
>>285431495>>285431521I'm probably the only person in existence who doesn't mind Naruto going full /m/ near the end
>>285431546B&W will be posted later
>>285431183>Daily reminder.Sasuke fag is a guy who seethes about Boruto and tried to control all discussion in Naruto threads and tried to push this fanfic/headcanon where his self-insert Sasuke got into a relationship with Hinata's little sister Hanabi. He would also samefag aggressively and attack other posters for posting whatever he didn't like it. He also wanted people to treat his fanfic as canon and would get mad if nobody treated it like it was. He would falseflag to create conflict to keep the threads going. One notable thing he did was falseflag as a group of Sakurafags who liked Sakura urinating on herself. He would also draw pictures where he would reply to himself to take his own requests which all related to his fanfic/crackship. Once people started leaving and calling him out for it he had a huge meltdown which got loads of posts deleted that revealed his obvious samefagging. He seethed for 2-3 days straight ban-evading over and over.
>>285431565I think you should be asking how Itachi activated Susan AFTER getting hit since his cloak got disintegrated.
>>285431521>spamming genjutsu 10 times>spamming Tsukuyomi>nah nigga I have one more eye>spamming Amaterasuare you done bro?>nah this is my real trump card. ENTER BULLSHITAND IT KEEPS GOING
>>285431648To be fair, none of his shit does anything except weaken him.
>>285431495>zetsu doesn't know about susannoo
>>285431648But wait, there's more!
>>285431608Maybe he just took it off.
>>285431211>>285431231>>285431253>>285431276This is why Sasuke is the best character.
>>285431495>>285431521Enter the worst fucking addition to the series.
I deleted CS2 marks for Sasuke due to the nature in which he uses them. They feel more like a part of his arsenal rather than a simple transformation, with the way he uses only one wing to block ect.They won't really matter in the long run and basic Sasuke and Hebi encompass these abilities anyway.Bumped beginning of Shippuden Sasuke since even Rasenshuriken Nard thought he was still inferior to Sasuke he was. Which he would be correct. Kakashi and Sasuke feel extremely close.Hebi is now above Sasori in my eyes, but maybe someone can say otherwise.Itachi stood still in the chapter so he remains still in the tier list.
>>285431477>REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>an entire chapter spent on 2 jutsus than nullify each other
>>285431435He wanted to teach Sasuke all the aspects of the Mangekyo he knew of.
>>285431811Is not worse than fucking Izanagi
>>285431842Why would Sasuke need that when he's doing fine as of now?
>>285431742I cant even pronounce the other one from that arc, the Koto something
>>285431782idk man. Kishimoto is acting like this is some genius shit when he refuses anyone's help to kill Itachi. His team is fighting Kisame when he could use their abilities right here like he did with Bee
>>285431892Madara
>>285431892"if Im good at using a knife, why would I need to learn how to shoot a gun?"
>>285431903Susan wasn't going to make Sasuke hit Obito.And Itachi thought a simple jobber flames would kill him.
>>285431922Sasuke already learned how to use his MS abilities the moment he got them anyway, this is a poor excuse.
>>285431608I think this gets answered later sort of
>>285431894This is very smart. The fight against Itachi is an honor duel. It is not meant to be totally rational.Just killing him is meaningless on its own unless Sasuke can do it himself. It is about restoring his personal and familial honor, if even only to himself. Haven't you ever read a samurai manga before?If you don't know what Meifumado is, you won't get the point.
>>285431565>>285431608Itachi activated the unarmored Susanoo and Kirin completely destroyed it but it shielded him from 99% of the damage, Madara's unarmored Susanoo also gets destroyed without him getting to hurt a couple of times in the war and in the next chapter we see that armored Susanoo takes some time to fully form so Itachi couldn't have used the Yata Mirror.
>>285431957I really really doubt Sasuke needed to know the existence of Susan to actually unlock it.Otherwise he'd have used it against B.
>>285431894If Sasuke was cool with getting help to kill itachi then he probably wouldn't have left Konoha in the first place
>>285431373>>285431389Try not to think about Sasuke avoided any damage despite being chakra-less and in range of his own jutsu that's faster than sound.
>>285431231Zetsu the weatherman.
>>285431183I’ve been gone for a while, what happened to Ramen and Sakon? And is the Jeet still angry he’s a worthless Jeet?
>>285432006I think it's kinda just an unspoken rule that people don't get hit by their own jutsu.
>>285431984To add to this, Sasuke learned about Rinnegan teleportation on a whim despite never seeing anyone with Rinnegan actually doing it.
>>285431962>The fight against Itachi is an honor duel. It is not meant to be totally rational.This would be making sense if he wasn't spamming Curse Mark abilities
>>285431231Smarter than Shikamaru.
>>285431231Are shonen kiddies supposed to know what cumulonimbus is?
>>285432014This anon pretty much hijacked the Daily from Sakon by posting ealier than him.
>>285431984They say in the manga you need both mangekyo powers to use Susanoo so he didn't have it until after he thought he'd captured Bee.
>>285432048That's not saying much.
>>285431440>>285431495>>285431521https://youtu.be/b3F-j772aO0
>>285431994he left Konoha out of desperation to get some bullshit abilities and drugs from Orochimaru. I don't see this as a win for him
>>285432036Curse Mark still falls within his own means
>>285431502I guess he somehow means meters per second but forgot the meters, otherwise it wouldn't make sense to compare it to the speed of sound.
>>285431231Where are the cumulonimbuses?
>>285432036He had to tame the curse mark himself and bend it to his will. Otherwise he'd have died. It is his mark and his power.
>>285432036>spammingHe's not.
>>285431521S O L O K I N GOLOKING
>>285432103Sound Four ninjas literally told him that he's becoming Orochimaru's slave. Itachi is about to asspull some bullshit to save him from his own mistakes
>>285432135They didn't hit the sky.
>>285432176He can die afterwards if needed. He just needs to kill Itachi HIMSELF
>>285431893The Koto AMATSUKAMIiirc it wasn't even his but from his dead friend.
>>285432110>1/1000 m/sTheslowest attack in Naruto history...
>>285432195he doesn't succeed so it's pointless anyway
>>285432028Naruto and raikage injured by their own jutsu while uchiha used plot armor jutsu
>>285431565He’s the king of aura dude this shit is Tuesday for him
>>285431735Does this make sense even disregarding him being created by Kaguya? Shouldn’t both Zetsu know about Susanoo from being created by Madara? I guess Kishi hadn’t really gone down the rabbit hole of Hashirama cells yet in his plans (assuming he had any)
Can't be an Akatsuki member without your obligatory second boss fight phase.
>>285432183Bro where is the cumulonimbus???
>>285432224Well, he couldn't predict he'd fail like that.
>>285431565He's a prime drama queen.
>>285432238Hidan would like a word.>>285432230Yugito avoided being injured by her own attack fwiw. I guess it just depends on convenience.
>>285432254I'm pretty sure that's filler.
>>285432254Poor example since he did use Kirin soon after. That's the entire reason the anime added that setup and follow up.
>>285432254You can tell this is filler because Kurama doesn't eventually get hit and tank the fire ball.
>>285432264that's why this fight is uninteresting. Itachi can one-shot him with susanoo right now, but instead saves him for a retarded plot twist and more flashbacks given straight from "not-Madara" and we are supposed to be amazed from finding out this dude has a new objective when his main goal wasn't even real, and Itachi won the battle anyway but he's dead now so whatever
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>>285431495Orochimarubros, we're still in this
>>285431565>>Turns it off>>Gets down to lie on the ground>>Pretends to be deadAlso throws away his cloak for added flair
>>285432443He perfected the sean bean jutsu
>>285432213>amatsukamiCould have sworn the name was like 3x as long as that
Sasusaku for life <3
>>285431211The sound this made in the anime was so fucking cool
>>285431811Yeah I always hated the Uchiga big chakra ghosts, absolutely removed from any and all ninja jutsu shit, just mini versions of the giant summon kaiju fights
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>>285431811Thats not kaguya
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>>285432662
I'm surprised how the game version of this fight doesn't change much compared to the anime/manga versionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCvmii8kSGU
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>>285431495Saucegay looks like a literal clown here
>>285432805
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>>285431828Itachi really is funny to tier, considering he doesn't do anything but stand still and cast genjutsu. If the massacre wasn't a psy-op and Konoha actually sent a small team of anbu/root/high tiers to kill him, I could see it happening, he really doesn't seem suited for receiving ambushes or drawn out encounters, all of his best jutsu are massive chakra burns and might blind his ass.
>>285432851Young love>>285432856
>>285432882
Sad pinkshitter headcanon slop
>>285432882Cute and heartwarming!I'm not really a Sakura fan, but it's nice to see her get something other than suffering.
>>285432914Sakura won.
>>285432947...single mother of the year award
>>285432947...matriarch of the Uchiha clan award
>>285431373How would your favorite not-OP character (Itachi/Madara tier) survive this?
>>285433024Full biju transformation tanks.
>>285433024Substitution jutsu so it just hits a log
>>285433024Kisamebro here, I wonder. I laugh picturing Samehada as the world's best lightning rod to catch and absorb it but there's no way it'd work like that, it got annoyed eating basic Katons. If he was in the moving water dome I imagine Kirin would barbeque everything inside.
In color !!!!
>>285431183>the man with the truth>it's just Obito feeding Sasuke the most convenient explanation of how things went down>the TRUE truth has to come two hundred chapters later from some edo'd kagekek
>>285433100His super attack was supposed to be able to absorb any amount of chakra, no?
>>285431477Absolutely seething. Imagine being Sasuke in this moment.No, really.You stage this cool, almost theatrical event. You finally get your revenge, reveal your trap card."Muh, Vanish with the Thunderclap!"Like he probably worked really hard on that one. Practiced his shape manipulation to turn lightning into a dragon. Had it all figured out. Until big bro flexes on him ONCE AGAIN with more eyeball magic. >>285431495It makes sense why Sasuke is so messed up, lol.
>>285433143I left that out because while I think it'd work, I don't think he'd pull it out in time to react to lightning. If Sasuke monologues like in this chapter then yeah the shark bullet does the job and even takes Sauce with it
>>285433143Yeah, but the issue here is that Kirin's natural lightning and not chakra. So Kisame's likely dead
>>285433220Who's gonna make the case for your bro if not you?>>285433280Why is the natural lightning shaped like a dragon?
>>285433280hadn't considered that myself. Yeah Kisame & or Samehada shouldn't help if it's a 100% natural lightning made Kirin
>>285432914>HeadcanonThey are canonically married as per chapter 700.
>>285433338>Why is the natural lightning shaped like a dragon?
түгэсхэл
>>285433482Cute
>>285431455Yeah, I don't really get why the lightning randomly removed 1 layer of clothing
Not counting all the faggotry at the end w/ being connected to every Biju and having all 5/magnet/boil/etc. did Naruto have a chakra nature besides Wind? The databook is a fucking mess, every character above Jonin tier has 4~ natures associated with them even if they've been shown using just 1 or none at all. Not even counting yin yang crap.
>>285432863As he is now in this fight his absolute limit will be the animal path. I don’t see him go above him.
>>285432235the timeline is wrong. Uchihas were massacred only like 10 years ago yet nobody knows about Susanoo
Reminder: this was Itachi's concept design. I think Kishi originally had it in his mind he'd be evil, personally.
>>285431373Since this attack isn't made of chakra would it work against absorption spammers like the Otsutsuki?
>>285433608Danzo is looking kind of funny
I miss Jiraiya and his bag
Why did Itachi kill his clan?Why did he mentally rape Sasuke?Why did Itachi not care about Orochimaru taking Sasuke?Why did Itachi help the akatsuki kill innocent people and hunt Biju?
>>285431435Needs to remove Oro. That'd actually make sense
>>285433538>The databook is a fucking mess, every character above Jonin tier has 4~ natures associated with them even if they've been shown using just 1 or none at allWhen did this trend start?
>>285433732Stop asking questions just enjoy the cool eye hax
>>285431477Middle panel is kinda shit. Why the long shot?
>>285433732read Samurai 8 to find out
>>285433779Sarutobi mastered them all but only uses jobber mud on Orochimaru and gets bodied hard
>>285433816Only 310 more days until we start Samurai 8 bros
>>285431588>rejected for acting like SasukeCrazy shit
>>285433820I meant like writing a bunch of random natures into data book entries even when they were not shown.
>My final trump card!!!!!!!!!>has 4 more final trump cards up his sleeveSOLO KING
>>285431828Accurate and it makes one question why Sasuke fought an S tier before fighting comparatively underwhelming Itachi
>>285433923Not really. Only Izanami and it's not actually a regular jutsu.
zzzzzzzzzzz
The end
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>>285433923He has all the trump cards...I kneel solo king
>another 100 posts per hour threadnice LLM flooding bro, really earning that paycheck from the jannies
>>285434018[spoiler[totsuka blade, crow genjutsu he put on Naruto, Izanagi, Izanami.
>>285431495> If I hadn’t had “this”
>>285434093Pinkshitter made 30+ posts with his faggy dump
>>285434024When is she gonna wake up?
>>285434024WAKE UP
>>285434184It's obviously OP posting that. He's been outed as a Sakurafag before.
If current Itachi was ambushed by Deidara, could Itachi win?
>>285434328kishimoto would write him losing to Tsukuyomi with his trained eye
>>285433626They probably just manage to dimension jump, even if that's unbelievable to me (jumping space should be prohibitively slow enough for almost everyone that it doesn't feature in combat, but we're long past that... At least it's supposed to be absurdly draining, enough to basically put Sasuke out every time he does it)rinnegan is the biggest tank for kirin though, so Momo should be able to tank it. Just almighty push and you are safe
>>285433608He sorta reminds me of Zabuza for some reason.
>>285434328>Itachi>losing
Hiashi won.
>>285431435He does know that Sasuke absorbed Oro, Sasuke himself was flexing his Oro powers earlier in the fight
>>285431191>"the justu..."
I unironically love Naruto.
Wanna see a brown pedo who spam a thread because of kf>>285434450>>285434446>>285434406>>285434203
>>285431735That's White, he's just a random white Zetsu that Black is on like a parasite. So no, he wouldn't, being that he's some ancient human turned into this by Kaguya and has only been brought into the world in the waning years of Madara.He's basically like Obito was when half controlled by Black: just another life that's being used by a parasite, but is allowed to be more sentient since Whites can't disobey
>>285434579wtf?
He's even samefagging now lmao>>285434581>>285434562>>285434351
>>285433988>>285433937>>285433892>>285433847>>285433813This is cute and all but this still does not make any sense what so ever.
>>285431527>>285431544It was also more the product of an eternal ring of fire surrounding the entire battleground, thanks to Itachi
>>285431320>>285431344>>285431373Itachi tanked that btw
>>285431648Reminder Madara is basically this but many times worse.
what would Itachi's EMS look like if he had actually taken Sasuke's eyes?
>>285431495>however
>>285434231>>285434230
Man I'd forgotten how annoying Zetsu was during this fight.Having a 3rd party explaining what's happening is really dumb.
>>285433892Honestly he should use his sus arm as a prosthetic in canon, that'd be a cool solution to both his desire to atone and also need to defend
>>285432504it means 'divine heavenly gods'.
>>285434628all of Naruto has terrible romance even the most beloved one between NaruHina sucks they had little to no build so much so that a movie had to fix that.
>>285434867I hate Temari and weasels so much bros
>>285434037>Sarada's conception
>>285431495get in the robot saucekek
>>285433538most ninja only have one. if he has a second, it's probably something like earth.
>>285435078somebody's getting pumped, alright
Kishi retconned a million thigs, he should have also retconned the Uchiha slaughter to have been Itachi in Susanoo. It would mirror the Nine-tails attack as a giant that slaughtered many, but unlike a jinchuriki the Susanno giants are just the end result of Sharingan eye hax. Itachi having Susanno is actually kind of stupid narratively, when else does he use it before now? ever?
>>285435041That came out after the series ended. A fix wasn't needed because its not even romance.
cute shotas
>>285435182Don't forget he also has a magic crow with Shisui's eye that can permanently mind control someone on top of his sword that can seal anything and shield that can block anything.
>>285435268Scatsuke loves posting piss and shit especially involving sakura
>>285435041Naruto is NTR coded, Kishi loves his love triangles drama
>>285435306touch grass bud you're chronically online
>>285435078>boruto post in naruto thread hmmmm
>>285435361>>285435393cringe samefag
>>285431565>>285431981Susano'o got obliterated but saved Itachi's life is the only thing tht makes sense.
>schizo schizo schizo schizo schizokek scatsuke is mindbroken from being called his actual diagnosed illness
>>285435377You call that a love triangle black clover is real love triangle.
not gonna bother arguing with bortfag, solving captcha and dealing with that autist doesn't bring me enough dopamine, try better
Susan can be penetrated with gentle fisting
>>285435539Concession accepted. This loss makes you look like a bitch.
>>285431521Itachi is proud of Sasuke. Itachi knows this is an asspull.
>>285435182He's fucking blind at this point. That's why he doesn't use it.
Naruto was featured on jeopardy yesterday lol this shit is house hold name.
>>285435665Man I remember the us version of Jump with Naruto in it.....Viz's Naruto week promo. I feel old
>>285435665>What is Nuh-roo-do
>>285431297Shikamaru would dodge this btw
>>285431297>>285431320Why name it "Giraffe"?
>>285435780He would dodge the whole fight because he is not brainlet to challenge solo king 1v1
>>285431183>> 285435737 #After party
>>285431477>>285431495I don't get it, why the hell is Orochimaru taking over Sasuke now? It was literally just explained how Kirin doesn't drain any chakra, so it's not like Sasuke was drained of energy after he used it.
>>285431495>>285431521Oh, is that a shield made purely out of chakra? *tap*
>>285431231I find it hard to believe that a few fireblasts could heat up the atmosphere to such an extend to form cumulonimbus clouds. Even so, wouldn't it take take and the clouds would drift/form miles away?
>>285435929He was already running on empty and then he tried tapping into the curse mark again.
>>285431344>you can't evade this lmao>that long-ass time for it to gather powerWhat's stopping someone to teleport like Sasuke did before he's even raising his arm?
>>285431828>Rasenshuriken Nard thought he was still inferior to SasukeDeidara literally stared he was weaker than Sasori retard
>>285431297All of electricity moves at the same speed. with that logic all of Sasukes chidori-variants should be undodgeable as well.
>>285431373>>285431389And how the hell did Sasuke avoid damage? He was on the roof too.
>>285431962>Just killing him is meaningless on its own unless Sasuke can do it himself. It is about restoring his personal and familial honor, if even only to himself.He was literally going on about how he was fine with giving his body to Orochimaru if it meant Itachi was going to die 2 arcs ago. He only changed his mind after he realised he could pull a reverse card on Oro.
>>285431521Where does the chakra, which could rival a freaking tailed beast, come from? Is it stored in the eyes? Wait no, Madara used it without eyes. Do they summon it, is it like a separate being? No wait it drains the user constantly of their chakra... So WTF?
>>285436112Evidently chakra lightning is weaksauce compared to real lightning.
>>285431495>Undodgeable lightning attack>1/1000 of a second>Still had time to summon Susanoo and tank it
>>285435665we have legit retirees posting here
>the million dollar question.
>>285436259Maybe by the actual voltage or energy released, but the speed of electricity is a fundamental law of physics and shouldn't change by "size".
Bros... I get the feeling like Kishi really likes lightning or something
>>285433024>NejiRotation palm deflects it. >b-but he wouldn't have enough time to reactItachi was able to activate his susanoo in a nanosecond before Kirin hit him, Neji could just start rotating while Sasuke brings his hand down.
>>285431231>>285431276Remember this next time someone shoots a hot jutsu into the sky, or when sasuke spams amaterasu.>>285431297> i don't control it i just direct itso could someone with, say, a specialty in chakra control and pink hair fry him with his own kirin?>>285431477> I'm out of chakra but not OUT of chakragod this fight fucking sucks
>>285436381He made entire village for Kumobull Thundercocks to live in and raise their Big Blue Chidori offspring
>>285436419> i don't control it i just direct itBtw this should be the case for all lightning based jutsus. That's literally the reason why it moves in zigzags, the lighting itself searches the path of least resistance on the fly.
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>>285433507>>285431546Arigatou, OP!
>>285436371It's chakra, not electricity.
>>285436583What would have happened if Hinata saw this?
>>285433481>read this wayfor real?Americans are so stupid they need a reminder how to properly read the manga?
>>285436920Yes I need reminder for your backward customs, like driving in right lane in ingerland
>>285435425I'm def not the person you're thinking of, but also why wouldn't I post the canon sequel to Naruto ?
This thread is getting slow because the jeet is currently having a meltdown in the Boruto-related thread and it's distracting his samefagging. Kek.
>>285434037shit ship only being carried by two people being hot
Jiraiya? Shat his pants.Minato? Ran away.
>>285437337Solos king would tank those
>>285437470Ill never forget back in the day in a power scaling forum this must’ve been 2011 or so , some one made that comment that he would be able to do that since his izanagi would not take away his eyes or affect him.God fucking itatchi cock riders.
>>285437266That should have been nardo all day.
>>285436401>Rotation palm deflects it. It can't even deflect a piece of wood
>>285437581Im fine with hinata being nardos love interest you pink shitter.
>>285437746>porcelain white skin>light eyes>jet black hair>wiiide hipsmy soul, it belongs to Hinata
>>285437337Reminder that Kisame solo'd one of them, with no wounds, heavy breathing or tattered clothes.
>>285437809>you can't understand my painI'm getting pretty tired of this line in the series. My pain is greater for being forced to read this kishislop.
>>285432905Reminder that Chengxi Huang was threatened and bullied by Sasusaku fans until he completely stopped posting. This manga was also a "request" from sasusaku fans
>>285437584He didn't use it against that. Also that piece of wood could have also killed Naruto
>>285436381Traced from HxH, Togashi invented electricity
>>285437911>Chengxi Huang was threatened and bullied by Sasusaku fansyou made that up
>>285437911I want to know if this is true if so then sasusaku fans are the craziest bunch in the ship verse of naruto.
>>285437809Kisame hard counters jinchuriki. Especially Roshi since he's a lava user
>>285431440>>285431458>>285431477>>285431495>I admit defeat...>IF THIS...DOES...NOT...WORK!
>>285437991it's true. sasusaku fans are rats, constantly begging for content, being mad at creators for drawing other ships, mostly naruhina.
>>285437746SEXOOOOOOO>>285437337Solo King.....can he solo THOSE?!
>>285438048Nta but I thought it was NSfags who did that. Since they were still salty. I think he apologised too.
>>285435665Uh, Wan Piss bros.....where's our Jeopardy segment...
Which kunoichi should I post tonight, feeling like an adult woman fetish kind of mood
>>285431183Based drama-free OP
>>285435665Kishi won the Masashibowl
>>285438203Im thinking we get some Shizune going.>>285438250Based
>>285436331That's just the average age of a Naruto fan when it first came out
>>285437911Why are shippingfags so deranged? Not even powerscaling fags are anywhere near as unhinged as they are.
You guys complain way too much
>>285438203
>>285437746Is that from the manga or an edit?
sakurakeks can't experience this
>>285433521>>285433553>>285433813Sakura bemoans that their only 'date' lasts 1 minute before Sasuke ditched her so the concept of Sasuke and Sakura spending time together is a fabrication to serve the cover story of why Sakura raises Sarada.
>>285431253>all it takes is a few basic elemental jutsu to manipulate local weather systems>and all it takes is a tiny amount of chakra with lightning element to redirect local weather systems and utilize chakra-free jutsu on the scale that is not even possible with simple chakra nature changes>then it is treated as though nobody ever thought of this before sasukeno kishi, bad mangaka, this also breaks the verseno fucking way hashirama and madara didn't figure this out when they were throwing planets at each other and developing every jutsu, this makes no senseremember, chidori is NOT lightning, it is chakra concentrated to look like crackling electricity, it is empirically NOT electricity the first five times it is used in the series but now it is not only "pikachu-type electricity complete with Same Type Attack Bonus on ground-types", but it also can redirect other forms of lightningdoes even Kakashi know about this?
>>285431320what makes it take the form of a scary growling monster dog? I thought this technique was very limited in chakra use from the caster, does Sasuke really have the spare chakra to make this scary shape?
>>285431344how long sitting in his dark room at orochimaru's did sasuke spend thinking up an ice cold line to deliver with his new lightning jutsu?
>>285438478KakashiBros.....what does this mean for us....>>285438518Its for the aura I guess
>>285438278
>>285431373>the force to shatter a mountain to crumbsdoes lightning already do this in the naruto world? holy shit lightning is fucking scaryI thought this technique just utilized already in place weather systemsis it not amplifying the bolt's power? does kishi think lightning bolts in real life can do this?
>>285438579Oop
>Sakura is so hardworking! No shit kek, she is a single mother who else would helpAlso sasusakukeks are afraid of the word single mother gaslighting themselves that sasuke visits her, yeah....
>>285431409>coat offit's over
>>285435026that'd be fucking cool. DMC Nero vibes, Sasuke would have a Susano'o Bringer
>>285438685women don't need to work they should be housewives raising kids
>>285431495we SnK now...
>>285431565both of them out of chakra btw>t-that was just an observation by zetsu, he was wrongoh, just like deidara, huh? funny how these dumb fuck uchiha bullshit fights keep having the reader be told by unreliable narrators to believe they are out of chakra when really everyone is just shitty at measuring that! bravo kishi!
>>285431588Psychoanalyst-kun, are you working from home today?
>>285437746Makes 10x more sense , but i would prefer a voluptuous timid blind girl.
>>285436123He planned to kill Itachi before the swap. If the consequence was Orochimaru puppetting his body afterwards, so be it.
>>285438478>remember, chidori is NOT lightning, it is chakra concentrated to look like crackling electricity, it is empirically NOT electricity the first five times it is used in the series Do you have the pages for this? I believe you, but I don't remember it being said that it's raw chakra specifically.
>>285438927NS would have made a lot more sense for sure. SNS however would have been the best choice.
>>285438048One of the biggest new blood NH artists got bullied out of the fandom for drawing SasuSaku ONCE.Every shipfag is the same shit with a different coat of paint.
>>285438927Absolutely not. Only works in fanfic
>>285438468That 1 minute date thing was filler desu.
>>285439072Why is it so fucking hot but so stupid at the same time.
>>285439124Its not hot but you do do>>285439147Get rid of that piercing young lady
>>285439124Post the one were she finally goes on a date with naruto and after they finished eating she sucks him off in an alley way.
>>285438663Nurse Joy had a little too much
Why is Suna such a shithole when you can control the weather, shape earth, and create permanent reservoirs of water with jutsu?
>>285439258Socio-economic factors
>>285433538Because of Sage Mode + Bijuu he could use pretty much anything, why he favored Lava over anything else is anybody's guess.
>>285439166Nah your blind this shit top notch
Why was Konoha okay with turning its nuke into a housewife?
how tf you can like sakura she looks like an onlyfans bot
>>285439533I don't agree
>>285439166
>>285439602What are you in to ?
>>285439533cute how she thinks she needs a bra
I miss the old captcha
>>285439786Not that
>>285439582Less chances of her going AWOL
is there a more wholesome relationship in canon?
>>285431318Sasuke needed 2-3 years to accomplish this.
>>285431521Stand proud, SasukeYou were strong
>>285440269Naruto would talk no jutsu Itachi into surrender
>>285440359Solokingbros not like this...
>>285440359No....no...this cannot be....
>>285440359Solo king beats TnJ with kotoamatsukami
Reminder that gentle fist 100% counters the susanoo.
>>285435818The kirin is a legendary creature that kills only the guilty and spares the innocent. This was heavily discussed after this chapter, so the "twist" about Itachi wasn't a huge surprise.
>>285431495I'm not a big fan of how commonplace SusaNo becomes later in the series but I did always like Itachi's original usage of it
>>285433024>How would your favorite not-OP character (Itachi/Madara tier) survive this?Minato and Tobirama teleport away. Bee shoots a bijuu-dama which might collide with it. Hashirama uses 5 Rashomon gates, somehow. Nagato is actually kind of fucked if it gets to the point of Sasuke targeting him with it.
>>285431495>HA I TAGGED YOU YOU'RE IT>UHH NO ACTUALLY I HAVE A FORCE FIELD UP
>>285440269To train and learn it, not actually comes up with the ability.
>>285440359Itachi would out-TnJ Naruto and make him not even want to change the shinobi system since Konoha is perfect as is.
>>285431495>>285431521>Sold his soul to a pedo>Died and resurrected for a curse mark>Spent 3 long years training relentlessly on all his tricks and techniques>Devised thorough strategies>Took his pedo inside him>"Sorry little bro. You got mangekyo diffed."Itachi's advice after the massacre was right. Sasukek is constantly training to perfect himself just to get outshined by bullshit like Jinchuriki's (Naruto, Gaara, Bee), and his older brother, a mangekyo merchant. Sasuke accomplishes NOTHING through hard work LMAO. And when he finally achieves his bullshit power, he gets whipped again but even more bullshit. Humiliating.
>>285435479Yeah, he probably formed just the skeleton as shown at the end of this chapter and it absorbed most of the damage but his cloak got vaporized or ripped off or something.
>>285440543>most basic bitch characters as favoritesGod you're a fag.
>>285431565Itachi wanted to prank his little brother one last time before killing himself.
>>285431648He has even more bullshit to flaunt this fight lol.
What the fuck even is the totsuka blade/yata mirror. where did they come from? who made them? At least the shit used in the war was said to be used by the sage of six paths.Who the fuck invented these "can one shot anything"/"can reflect anything" asspull weapons
>>285441134Based on existing shit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Regalia_of_JapanWhether they're the real deal or not it's up to you.
>>285441134These are just basic sharingan powers.
>>285431811For me it's the Daimyo. They are absolutely nonsensical.I understand in theory they're supposed to be the main administrator of the region, and that the hidden villages are essentially military bases. But it doesn't make any sense. Where do the Daimyo live? Everywhere else we see is just a rinky dink village. The hidden villages may as well be capitals, ironically. If there are capitals, why the fuck aren't they attacked? I suppose it's tradition, but why is it upheld? The Daimyo is only ever portrayed as some foppish oaf, a clueless out of touch idiot who just complies with his advisors. The (non-nin) advisors are only ever portrayed as a constant thorn in the side of the village. We are dealing with people willing to put children into meat grinders for territory, and despite the fact that they're walking chakra monsters and the ~king is literally just some asshole, not one of the 5 villages ever had the Kage go "yeah actually I'm going to be the number one authority around here, fuck off". They wouldn't even need to meld civil and martial governance for this, they could just appoint their own civil authority whom they have veto over and who doesn't obstruct them.There is no reasonable basis for their authority, and no basis for their importance. At once point Tobi was planning on capturing them because it would give them a bargaining chip in the war and force them to field Naruto, so Tobi is clearly of the belief that this is a worthwhile and the kage would throw for these cunts. Top combatants in this apocalyptic war are relegated to babysitting these retards. It makes no goddamn sense.And going back, why isn't this tried more? Where are these cunts based? Regarding their admin, In any case we see kage discussing alliances and civil matters and just going "yeah we'll check with the Daimyo if it's ok", so fucking why? Yeah I know it's a feudal Japan thing but Feudal Japan had a reason, and in general I'm pretty sure were competent military mostly.
Also why do the infinite tsukuyomi and Itachis tsukuyomi share a name.Infinite tsukuyomi clearly came first since it was from the time of Kaguya, and Zetsu/Madara know about it, but where did Itachi learn the name to apply to his completely unrelated genjutsu eye power.
>>285441262>At once point Tobi was planning on capturing them because it would give them a bargaining chip in the war and force them to field Naruto, so Tobi is clearly of the belief that this is a worthwhile and the kage would throw for these cunts.Even if they were important enough a threat like that would only ever work in a regular world war, not a "if I win the entire world gets attached to trees and stuck in infinite genjutsu"It'd be like a mad scientist threatening to launch all of earths nukes but when you try to stop him he says he'll kill the president. Like in that situation who gives a fuck.
>>285433732you'll ge there
>>285440599Sasuke deserves it after somehow forcing himself out tsukiyomee a few chappies ago
>>285441353>I'm right next to you and I blow up to take us both out(10km radius by the way)>actually I summon the strongest snake there is, put in genjutsu, hop in its mouth, and reverse summon outUchihas are just annoying kids on the playground coming up with bullshit to try and win
>>285441262You're putting way more thought into this than Kishimoto ever did, anon. The daimyo exist because ninja historically dealt with the daimyo and that's it.
>>285433106sasuke the genius, stand aside shikamaru.
>>285431297how do naruto power scalers deal with this, I thought strong characters are multiple times faster than the speed of light or some shit
>>285441262The hidden villages were established not for their own sakes but to protect the economic zones of the richest guys around. Would have liked to see Hashirama convince the first fire daimyo that he could turn him from a millionaire into a billionaire.
>>285441383being filtered by high iq is crazy
>>285433507thanks op.
>>285441526The other kids wanted to say no when you asked to play with them
>>285441560defaulting to group behavior after being filtered by high iq is also crazy. could not be an uchiha
>>285441262Think of the emperor during shogunates, basically that.
>>285441560wanting to play with others as kids is peak low iq behavior given independence would have been selected to have shown up early. since all kids would have somewhat the same strength the dumb would have feared the loners because of lack of capacity to evade threat with thought
>>285441263The tablet in the Uchiha shrine
>>285441262Harry Potter's worldbuilding looks Tolkien-tier compared to this series.
>>285441696>>285441610Just cause you had no friends as a kid doesn't mean you need to say this shit, Itachi.
>>285441262unironically described what boruto'd have been about to display
>>285441699The original should have been called just tsukuyomi though. Calling it an infinite tsukuyomi implies prior knowledge of an existing regular tsukuyomi.Itachi would have seen the existence of tsukuyomi and called his "limited tsukuyomi" or some suchIt's like even Kaguya defers the naming of her jutsu to be offshoots of Itachis instead of the other way around.
>>285441729consensus shilling is so 2025. no comply
>>285441503>The hidden villages were established not for their own sakes but to protect the economic zones of the richest guys around.Yes but you're talking about respecting certain rights in situations where such rights would not be recognised as the holders to those rights would not be able to enforce them.Once again, these aren't moral agents - many of them literally killed children of their own village as part of their training, to say nothing of foreign children. Why are they serving "the richest guys around" instead of simply being "the richest guys around". You are talking from the perspective of someone in a stable system regarding a completely unstable one.
>>285441750I need that one panel with the frog isolated, you know the one. Cracks me up. Was there even a thread for it?
>>285441696Copious cope
>>285441840independent capable actors literally lose expected returns from acting under groups or normative behavior
>>285440262why is there so little nephew/aunt love stories in manga, anyway?
>>285431183did they fuck?
>>285431521>my final trump card>but not my final, final trump card: a magic sword never mentioned before that will never be mentioned again
>>285431435If itachi died now he wouldn't be able to trigger sauce's MS by revealing that AKSHUALLY the massacre was danzo's fault and how he was the best brother ever for subjecting sasuke to extreme mental torture for no reason. >>285434756Madara was objectively worse when it come to sudden asspull powers but he was more entertaining as an antagonist than itachi. He was having so much fun styling on the ninja army that you couldn't help but like the guy despite his incredibly retarded plan. And kishi never tried to paint his actions in a positive light. Unlike itachi who we're supposed to see as a moral paragon for massacring his entire family at the behest of some geriatric ballsacks.
>>285437809He specifically says it was a tough fight and doesn't mention transformation as one of his abilities though. Kishi was just too lazy to draw injuries.
Yugito got new art a couple days ago!
>>285431338Are you really throwing a fucking tantrum over a fictional fantasy manga that has kids that can cast magic spells? Are you really fucking criticizing the approximate arrival time of these clouds? Why is everyone constantly complaining about every little thing. Why can't you just enjoy the series as it comes
>>285444066I think the blatant shittiness in some parts has broken suspension of disbelief for many anons, so now they nitpick everything (which is also fun tbf).
>>285444082It's just so bizarre. I've never seen another group that has been so hypercritical of something. People arguing about sunos spawn time is insane to me. Like what the fuck does it matter. There's his trump card. On to the next sequence
>>285443107Nah it's also how the third So6p gets beaten, after entering the battle crippled and fighting against the two strongest members of the allies (nard & B) and the next strongest reanimation at the time (Itachi). Totsuka is how they seal Nagato who is p OP in reanimation since he's no longer victim to being a cripple
>>285437911>>285437991>>285438011He got threatened because of that hinata/naruto bed animation. They think he was biase towards that ship eventhough he clarified that he like all ships.And later when people found out that he was making a sasusaku doujin, they sent him another threat because huang joked about making money off sasusakufags.They think this another one of his biase toward naruhina.He stopped posting exclusively on weibo after this incident and deleted that naruhina animation.
>>285444195I meant to say he stopped posting on twitter and started posting exclusively on weibo after this incident.
>>285444195>>285444202This is that animation
>>285444066>>285444113at the same time Sasuke had his parents murdered in front of him and made to re-live this scenario for 200000 times, but we shouldn't read this seriously?
>>285436067Deidara vastly outclasses Sasori in showings so his statement isn’t taken as a 100% factNaruto on the other hand is still a inferior to Sauce in both showings and statements.
Yomi Numa gg
>>285444195That's not why he deleted it, he was told by higher ups to delete it because Boruto is a show aimed at young kids and with him being an actual animator on the show they didn't want to give the impression he was posting official art of the characters being naked and having implied sex.
Today's thread is actually pretty good, I wonder why...!
>>285444405He will capture him safely with the jutsu that destroys his body on a cellular level.
>>285444449>he was told by higher ups to delete it And your source came to you in your dream, right?
>>285433928Itachi is underwhelming if he can’t defeat you with Genjutsu.
>>285444062Nice
Is he okay?
>>285444502https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cx5KrwVyc0coolest big brother!!!!! filler shuriken training
>>285444777>Is he okay?Unironically no, many things must have gone wrong with this dude to be like that. Every time you feel bad about yourself or about anything, you gotta remember this and always be thankful that you didn't end up like him, I'm not even shitposting.
>>285444919Tenten tier feat
>>285444948Tenten sure is impressive!
>>285444777>His personas scream "He's not here, guys!"Meanwhile...>Daily was late because he was seething in the Boruto thread.>Daily has less spam and is going at a snail's pace because he was seething in the Boruto thread and getting banned left and right. L.O.L. Let's see the excuse he'll have for this one. Oh, and lucky digits. Fitting.
>>285444964She sure is. She wins in a shuriken spam battle
>mfw some mangekyo merchant walks into my store trying to sell me jobber flames - black edition, but my buddy is a daily naruto chapter expert
>>285441263It is named pretty much like that in japanese. "infinite" tsukuyomi is called tsukuyomi without limits.
>>285444195You are making this all up. There's no evidence anything had to do with shipfaggotry. If anyone would attack him for NaruHina art it would be NaruSaku shippers anyway not SasuSaku.
>>285443107What about the final final final trump card - locking you into a groundhog day time loop until you confess your sins before Jesus?
>>285445186>hmm, excessive drain of chakra, immense strain and eye bleed, procedural blindness, induction of cumulonimbus so you can job even harder... I can confirm these are indeed authentic jobber flames - black edition™
>>285445316>NaruSaku.Why is this shit still relevant even in today’s standards.
I just realized something. So if Nardo won this fight, he would’ve succumbed to kurama and accidentally kill Sasuke
>>285445894He could've saved his manga...
>>285441750Interested to see how that pans out desu.>Daimyo rep survives - he will know he's been jutsud, and will blame Shikamaru who caused it>Daimyo rep gets merced - Sai will know what his son did and will blame Shikamaru who caused it>Worst result is Boruto saves him and he goes "Thank you Boruto-sama I will report to the Daimyo and let them know enquiries were fruitless" and relieves all consequence.It's gonna be the last one isn't it.>>285445894I mean, he only lost specifically because he didn't do that/intend to do that. Did you miss the point of the headband or what?
>>285445973> Did you miss the point of the headband or what?I think you’re a massive faggot. Kill yourself dumb nigger
>>28544588415 years of development
>>285445623>Jiraiya fried an entire fish in a flashback with regular jobber flames. these ones can't even destroy a snake clone
>>285445979Are you okay Rajsuke?
>>285444412We know, Jiraiya-sama. """"Solo King"""" doesn't stand a chance against you. No need to flex.
>>285446085What the freakin , i cant freaking believe you guys actually thought jobber flames would be op when even they were of no use against jiraya in part 1
>>285445884 Because its so fuckin hott!!!
>>285440437i think out of the kids, the only one that counters neji is lee. gives no fucks about molding chakra and his only technique is based on unlocking chakra pathways. he was lucky they were on the same team
>>285446223They did spook Jiraiya and he had to write a scroll to seal them
>>285443517>revealing that AKSHUALLY the massacre was danzo's faultItachi didn't do that, it was Obito.
So this is how the threads are when people ignore all the drama/bait post. Interesting
>>285448205Turns out 400~ posts for a single Naruto chapter is already quite a lot, maybe too much.
>>285448312We need more waifufags. (or other people with niche interests they can post repeatedly I guess)
>>285448360No, we don't "need" anything more. In fact, 200 posts thread would be fine. We could afford to lose some fat.
>>285448374Who would you kick out?
>>285448205it's because the usual suspect was tiring himself out having a melty about boruto in the other thread >>285444777
>>285448312in the best arcs we managed to, but shippuden is mostly weak arcs with some good moments here and there.
>>285446284Kurama gets lonely locked up in his cage, got no fox bitches to slob his knot. can you blame him?
>>285448604>a certain someone didn't show up>substantially less jeet complaining Hmmmm. I'm beginning to think there's really only 1 or 2 people who shit up these threads, and one of them is no longer OP.
>>285450464Rajsuke is shitting up these threads. He's also OP, but he was shitting up the Boruto thread full time for 15+ hours straight, so he's still sleeping for now, explaining the current slower pace. I'm expecting more bullshit for the next threads, though.
>>285450506>He's also OPNah
>>285450506The person shitting these threads up, most likely you, is the one who can't shut up about this Sasuke-insert insult here. Most of the low quality post, or bait posts are just whining about nobody talking about him or begging for people to acknowledge he exists.
>>285450819>>285450574>back at it after 7 hours of sleepYou're fooling nobody. Boruto will resume.
>>285450868Thumbs up
>>285446036....that only happened in your head.
>>285443517>you couldn't help but like the guyEh
>>285451270>Sasuke part 1: you're annoying *karate chop to the back of the head*>Sasuke part 2: you're annoying *chidori in the chest*>Hinata part 1: N-naruto-kun...*loses*>Hinata part 2:N-naruto-kun,,, *dies*>Naruto and Sakura part 1: hey maybe Naruto isn't that bad>Naruto and Sakura part 2: *saves his life while she kisses him and after a confession*>AIEEEEEEEE WHERE IS THE DEVELOPMENT AIEEEEEEEEEEEEE THAT WAS CPR IT DOESN'T COUNT AIEEEEEEEE WE LIKE BORUTO SHIT NOW
>>285444240Naruto looks unnatural/out-of-character there
>>285451676I like Hinata and hate Sakura.Simple as.
>>285451676>hey maybe Naruto isn't that bad She says that then Naruto acts himself and she punch him in disgust.>after a confessionAfter she got rejected. Literally in that arc she says she still likes Sasuke and couldn't lift a finger against him.Let this go femanon. You lost long ago.
>>285448420>Who would you kick out?>>285450506This annoying faggot.
>>285451819Why are you replying in my stead, Rajsuke?
>>285451729Loving booba is the most Naruto thing ever
>>285451780>She says that then Naruto acts himself and she punch him in disgust.not a shoujo anime. >After she got rejected.rejection for plot reasons before he saves her life > ignoring (Naruto to Hinata and Sasuke to Sakura)
>>285451676Sakura is a battleaxe, Hinata is demure. men like women who respect and submit to them, you can't shame that desire out of us
>>285451887>not a shoujo anime. So what. He acted himself and she hits him. Whenever he does that she disapproves. >rejection for plot reasonsBefore the plot got going Sakura loved Sasuke. Its the one thing thats crystal clear about her. Hell, she literally begs Naruto to get back in Part 1. Face it femanon, the manga itself goes against you here. You just wanna fuck Naruto through your self insert you so and so! Your genjutsu wont work me on me!!!
Nta and Im not a shipfag ,but the one thing you cant disagree on is that the only true close friend sakura has aside from ino probably , is naruto she has no other friends aside from them.
>>285451920Is Hinata really "submitting" when she required 0 effort?
>>285452070>Shizune>Tsunade>Sai
>>285452129Both shizune and tsunade are just mentors.And she never really dabbles with sai.
>there are girls in my comfy shitposting not-general
>>285452250We have to be kind to them.
>>285452295what have they done for me lately?
>>285452384They....uh...well....you just have to okay chud!
>>285452250There are no girls online, newfag
>>285452499>he doesn't know
>>285431546>>285433507Thanks OP!
>>285452162None of the girls have "friends" outside their own teammates.
>>285452643Incorrect, boys and girls can't be real friends, it's always one orbiting the other hoping for pity smash
>>285452643Ino has friends.
>>285452786>Choji and um.. PLEASE LIKE CHOJI AND SAIKishimoto...
>>285438478lol I feel like every thing madara did was stronger than kirin why would he care about the weather
>>285452849she has an entire group she hung around with in the academy, and there's no reason to believe they didn't keep in touch after graduation. Ino is just too much of a bit character to get focus on her social life. The Konoha 11 girls are also often shown spending time together.
>>285452767Not true. Gays are friends with girls all the time.
>>285453083>there's no reason to believe they didn't keep in touch after graduationThere's no reason to think they did. People move on after graduating.
>>285453608assumption
>>285453579>what about muh extreme outlierCompletely and utterly irrelevant
>>285453698>extreme outlierRetard. Try going outside more. Your concession, not needed.
>>285453677>never see random girls again >don't even know if they graduated It's a much safer assumption to assume Ino moved on from her kindergarten friend group than her "keeping in touch" with them
>>285453789how many chapters focus on Ino's life outside of being a ninja?
>>28545442900 chapters focus on any of the K11 lifeThey will barely appear AT ALL in the remaining 300 chapters
>>285454461And that's the biggest tragedy of this manga because they are more interesting than team 7 main cast.
>>285454461>They will barely appear AT ALL in the remaining 300 chaptersThank God. Lamest group of jobbers.
>>285454695The entire generation is nothing but jobbers, except for two fujoshit fags who want to touch their rasengan and chidori tips.
>>285454695Mifunebro...
>>285454900Actually I'M the Mifune bro >>285454461
>>285445884NaruSaku feels more natural because they're the pairing that spent more time together so we were given enough time to see how their relationship grows as opposed to both NaruHina and SasuSaku that were both just one-sided obsessions until the last minute and this is coming from someone who didn't like NaruSaku while the manga was still being finished...
>>285454954What relationship? The bitch was manipulating him from the moment Sasuke defected because she knows she is useless sack of shit and can't bring him back.
>>285455027>the precise moment cringiest plot ever told begins
