absolute dogshit
>>285459055Because not even Narutards gave a shit and it exposed Hackmoto without Yahagi to help get it off the ground even with constant shilling. Kill yourself.
>>285459055It deserved better. Loved the drawings.
Squid tastyyum yum
>>285459320>it exposed Hackmotothe 2nd part of Naruto exposed him.
>>285459055Did people actually give this a chance, or did it just rub people the wrong way right out the gate? I don't remember how people reacted to its first few chapters.
>>285459444the exposition inside a video game at the start doesn't help
>>285459444i was willing to give it a chance even tho the protagonist didn't look interesting. i didn't particularly care for the excessive shilling since it was the next manga by The Naruto Guy, no shit it was gonna get sucked off.i tried to stick with it but by the time the battle royale came around i was way too out of it to care anymore and it was clear it was never gonna go anywhere.
>>285459320True. I could say more, but what’s the point.
>>285459055This manga only showed how much of a worthless hack Kishimoto actually is. Naruto was hard carried by his editors and thus was a complete fluke.
>>285459055Nobody cares for it; that's why. And I don't think it's due to how it compares to Naruto, but rather because Samurai 8 just didn't speak to the youth (male or female) the way that Naruto did back when Kishi himself was still young and in touch. Naruto was authentic and compelling, whereas Samurai 8 just feels like Kishi wanted to do a sci-fi manga without having anything meaningful left to say.
>>285459055Axed for one. Being shit for reason number 2. MC was basically early Bort 2.0
Only last year I learned that Kishimoto didn’t even draw it, which made me not even want to check it out
>>285459444People hated the MC because despite being a born cripple, he acted like a spoil brat. Pretty much a copy of boruto. People also complained about the artstyle being hard to read and follow which was true. Strangely enough, the first chapter was still interesting enough to keep readers to see where this was going. After that it turned into, again, boruto tv series level boring filler. Then when western news outlets were parading the manga having transgender character, pretty much everyone tapped out and the series was axed soon after.
>>285459444This is the fourth page of the manga. Would you keep reading past this?
>>285460588Had nothing to do with youth. Most mangaka make their best work in their 30s and 40s unless they’ve been worked to death. Young people have less to say about anything. That’s why so few bands become successful until their late 20s, and careers don’t really ramp up until their 30s, unless they’ve had ghostwriters and industry money backing them in a very artificial way. Kishi was used for his willingness to meet a deadline.
Samurai 7 was better
I don't know how you fuck up sci fi space samurai but by glum he did it
>>285459055>>285461547Are sci-fi shonen just doomed to fail? When's the last time we had a good one? I also recall Oda having wanted to do a mecha manga after One Piece...
>>285461664Eden Zero was alright. Didn't quite recapture the success of FT but 30+ volumes is more than a lot of series get.
>>285461547the biggest vibe I got from it is that he was desperate to speedrun the MC's training up to the heights of endgame shippuden because he was scared the audience would be unimpressed if he was weaker than Naruto
>>285459055It's not gay enough.
This was the page that made me drop this entire mangaka , i realized yea this another trope of the underdog becoming the one recognized around the world thing. The hack tried to recycle this trope except he made the main character a spoiled brat
>>285459055There's nothing to discuss, despite all the exposition, it was really swallow.
>>285459444People gave it a chance, but the exposition was too much
>>285463230an african or a european swallow?
>>285459444The art was never great and the main character immediately gets his disability fixed. Not a great start. Then his first friend is a tranny, and the female heroine is lame. Then the first long arc sucked
>>285463295The pokemon obviously sorry, phon*poster
>>285463310Despite her role in the story being literally stand and pray, she actually had the most development of the cast.
The amount of white made it physically painful to look at.
>>285459444It was comprehensively lame, a manga so weak that it wouldn't have gotten serialised if it was not by the guy who created Naruto.
>>285463117Hey, c'mon, we're faggots, but not gay ones!
The art is so hard to look at with the amount of white and blobby shapes. Also, no one likes four-eyed MCs and I'm saying that as a four-eyed freak myself.
>unpopular work from literally who mangakacan't say anything about their ability, there could be many reasons for the work unpopularity>popular work from a literally who mangakacan't say anything about their ability, there could be many reasons for the work popularity>unpopular work from a well established mangakait failed despite the mangaka being well known and having fans from their previous work, revealing that their work is just that bad and likely their ability wasn't the reason they got popular to begin with>popular work from a well established mangakathey proved that they didn't get popular by chance and have great abilitysamurai 8 proved that kishimoto belongs to the third group
Why does Kishimoto insist on handing projects over to his (inferior) assistants instead of doing it himself anyway? Does he hate drawing nowadays? Did they give him amazing blowjobs? Even his brother draws better than the Squid 8 chick and Bortman.
>>285463406It was like everything was made of Deidara's clay.
>>285464129He burned himself with the weekly schedule
>>285464129Drawing is laborious and painful
>>285463295I don't know...AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARHH!!>>285463356That's not what you should be apologizing for. You make me sad
>>285459055it's the glasses. Nobody wants to be a 4 eyes nerd
>>285464347>it's the glassesProbably misses his old glasses.
>>285464129everyone i know that draws wishes they didn't have to draw and uses all types of tools and cheats to avoid drawing as much as possible.
>>285464418they're all faggots, all these digital tools and 3D objects and traced photos look awful
>>285464457no, people that don't know how to use the tools make art that looks awful. most artists nowadays use digital tools and some form of 3d reference all the time, you just don't notice it. people only care when it looks ugly.
>>285464566>you just don't notice itit's pretty obvious most of the time, actually
>>285461098>The sshksjsjssCinema.
>>285464588and im telling you that you're only noticing the bad examples.
>>285459055because its boring
>>285459055People were hyped when chapter 1 came out, but then chapter 2 was so bad it made everyone lose interest, I don't remember anyone even making threads after that.
>>285459444Most people dropped it within the first chapter and just memed about how Kishimoto was making them chew it.
>>285459055Nothing left to discuss.
>>285459500If I remember right, wasn't it the exact same exposition that the opening infodump already gave?
I remember some talk in the last chapter but that's it
>>285461098It's written like a parody.>Aha! I recognize that technique. You can only be the legendary legend of legend, son of the great What's-His-Face, and inheritor of the mythical Thingumabob.
It had lots of problems but for me the biggest one was that the cyborg samurai were immortal and were defeated by vague lose of spirit/will. It just took all stakes from the battles.The cyborgs should've been something like in metal gear rising
>>285461098Damn, Hidan really got a glow up.
>>285461098How the fuck did a veteran mangaka commit the basic rookie mistake of giving too much details no one will care about at the start of a story?
>>285460735Really? What is even the point then? He's a godawful writer whose main strength is aesthetics.
>>285459055no one likes chewy squid
>>285459444ch.1 was terrible, instantly destroying it's own initial premise by making the MC be reborn as a non cripple.After that it was just standard shonnen slop with nothing new. The comments about the art being ass and the backgrounds merging with the characters were there from the start.
>>285461286I hope you feel embarrassed having written that shit and felt the need to post it. Keep your dogshit opinions to yourself, faggot.
>>285472576Calm, Kishi.
>>285464995Keep your shit eyes on your own face, fag. There's fundamental differences in artistic tools that's noticeable to anyone who gives two shits to learn the difference.
>>285472658if you gave two shits you'd be working on your art instead of shitposting here all day jehj
>>285470024I can actually see how veterans coming off a long series might have trouble with starting a new one the right way. It's something they haven't had to do for many years at that point, and because they're seen as trusted professionals, editors won't wrangle them as hard into doing it properly like they would for noobs.
>>285470024Cause he hasn't written as a rookie for years now. He had been writing Naruto for over a decade and he was used to writing lore essays for Naruto later arcs. It's a habit that hard to correct
>>285472576Stay mad, Axed fag
>>285459444I read the whole thing, so I feel like I gave it a chance, but it exposed immediately Kishimoto's worst defects as a writer - namely a certain "moralizing" way of builing characters, siding for some while hating others for no reason, and of course the worst and most useless female characters ever created in fiction. He only writes "traditional" women and can make you rethink your mysoginy just by depicting how fucking boring and useless the world would be if they only acted like this.
>>285473282>>285474221Introductions are hard so I can see where he might need to fall back into a groove but this was just incompetent on the most basic level
>>285459055Its bad
Just chew harder bros
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>>285459055Keep chewing
