What have you been working on?
So, after trying a few (relatively) free AI-redraws, I can say that the only workable solution I found is to use nanobanana pro, with 1:1 ratio, and cropping images to 1024x1024, even if it mean cropping and leaving small panel in the middle and then expand to 1024 in all directions.Usually banana-pro doesn't distort image under such conditions, though results still can vary wildly even with literally the same prompt and image. Overall it's better than lama in 9,5 out of 10 cases, but has some moments of retardation. Not to mention that it can redraw the whole image to something different, and randomly add speech balloons or panels instead of redrawing.Non-pro banana in addition to random redraws/balloons also can be visibly worse and will randomly distort images even with everything above done. Maybe there's some prompts or ways to prevent that, but you'll need to spend a lot of time and tries/money to research it. Doesn't worth it at all.
>>285500123I finished my personal uploader script, now whenever I edit my PSD files I can press a button and have the changes sync to Cubari(image chest backend) and Mangadex. I also discovered how much time LLM IDEs save, asking it to interface Fontforge and generate alternative font weights and italicized fonts was a breeze.
>>285500123We got a couple of redrawers to join this week. Which let us pick up another new series. Not my type so I won't be working on it.I do wish we get a translator soon. There is a dropped series I want to work on and I'm sure the other guys won't mind.>>285500757Nanabanana is a last resort for me. It's the solution to very hard pages, even resolution differences aren't that big of a deal. But the subtle changes puts me off. I also have to notify the rest of the team about it.
>>285500757Don't you get like 50 or so genrations per day with the pro plan? Why would experimenting cost extra money? It’s anywhere between 2~20 dollars a month depending on discounts/plan sharing.
>>285500123Photoshop>=Inkscape>>>>>>Gimp
>>285501346>But the subtle changes puts me offCan’t you just mask them?
>>285501358No, I use one of those scam-like sites, where I can use pro for free, but limited. I wouldn't want to pay money for this anyway, but results are acceptable if I don't have to pay for it.
I hate gimp so much. Inkscape also seems to suck for scanlation tasks. Never tried photoshop.>>285500757Did you ever experiment with local models?
>>285501439Hard to do so. Not only is the resolution different between the raw page and the final product but sometimes the changes are too widespread. To the point that it will better to replace the panel than to just copy and paste the redrawn part.Note that I only use for individual panels, and I've only used it once. For everything else either hands or IOPaint do the job fine.
>>285501346>But the subtle changes puts me off.Why? It's not like you use the whole image. Simple use mask (which should be one of the fist thing you make anyway) to select what you wanted to redraw, and copy on new layer, an hide/delete the rest.>>285501702>Did you ever experiment with local models?I wish I could, but my poorfag PC shits itself when I try.
>gaijin character that exclusively talks like thisshut up. stop talking.
>>285500123Since the Saki manga gets its 20th anniversary this year, my plan is to make the excessive but online non-existent doujinshi library the series got over the decades more accessible. Scan first, then clean, redraw and translate select titles. Most doujinshi are the length of an average manga chapter so the work flow is not any different for most of them.
>>285500757Wouldn't it be easier to simply do it manually rather than do all this research?
I've been using banana the autofit script anon posted without problems. It works well enough.
>>285500123Trying to figure out a way to make TyperTools quit freezing Photoshop. Otherwise, I'll be forced to stick to Styles and my Favorite fonts list.
>>285500123>>285501702GIMP is trash. Idk how it works on windows but on mac it cant even handle transparency (meaning text isnt overlayed properly and looks faded)top is GIMP. bottom is pixelmator pro
>>285504459gimp wasn't made with mac in mind initially so it's very possible its support might be... lacking
>>285504494Yeah, running gimp on anything but gnome will be considered an unsupported hack by the devs or something.
What’s a good proofreader like? I’m a solo scannie and am considering working with one.
>>285504945Put a couple of hard to find typos in your script and send it to him. Test if he can actually do his work properly.
>>285504945>>285505028>I enjoyed riding first class on the plain.>I can't bare the suspense.>Their great people.>Don't go over their.
>>285500757When all else fails, just use moonrunes to redraw some lines.
>Finally found a translator to work on old dropped projects with>Can't find raws for a single one of themI never really considered this.
>>285507009Which series
are claude and gemini good at translating? or is AI still bad?
>>285510327Why do you even ask?Don't use tools where you aren't capable of judging their output.
>>285510435I'm reading an old translation of something written before AI was around and it seems a lot of it was mistranslated. I've seen people complaining about it over the years as wellI'm just wondering if AI is now better than someone who barely speaks japanese. I'm not uploading anything, just reading
>>285510327Japanese is a contextual language, so odds are it won't even be correct on which character is addressing which half the time.
>>285510745It's barely better than N4 ESLs when it comes to nuance
>>285510745Machine translation has been around for decades and every few years monolingual retards will claim that it has finally become good.
>>285510745>I'm just wondering if AI is now better than someone who barely speaks japanese. Well, AI is much less likely to misread kanji, but it's not great at slang or expressions. There's also the issue that Japanese typically omits parts of sentences that you would find in English ones. So, it's guessing who's speaking to who.
>>285510745I use gemini as a second opinion because I'm too autistic and asocial to get a proofreader. It misinterprets things as often as traditional MTL but will do its best to bullshit them into sounding correct.
Joke: a translator, a localizer and a fansubber enter a bar, a MacDonald's and an Izakaya.
>>285511099Eh? That's a bit...
>>285511099You got a laugh out of me at least, anon.
Is there something like a manga preservation d*scord or some other community where people search for raws of old shit?
>>285500123
>>285511586Not really at least there is surely no centralized groupMost people I know of either get the raws themselves or take a gamble with the mediafire links available on one of many raw sitesIf your target is really old shit and you cannot find any translations online in any language then chances are you need to get the physical edition from somewhere and scan it yourself
>>285507009Can't find raws, or can't find pirated raws?
>>285511586/r/datahoarder maybe?
>>285510774Straight up false, it makes less mistakes than your typical n2kun-trying-their-best now in decoding implied object/subject. Also knows when the topic is actually replaced unlike some rando scannie.
>>285503412crazy talk
>>285510745>is mindless AI translations goodno they are absolute dogshit >>285510842 especially because of the context issue anon has pointed out, it will try to fill in the context itself and it fucks up pretty much every time.>is putting a single line and using very specific instructions to ensure that each word is maintained in good faith to the Japanese text, is parsed word by word with explanations and cultural relevance, maintains all thought processes such as conditionals and all words that do not match 1:1 with words in English are explained thoroughly using Japanese dictionaries and sources (ok this is getting long as fuck but you get the point) and THEN fixing it yourself using your own knowledge of Japanese but even more importantly your knowledge of native English to ensure that all of the contextual words that are required to be added so that it isn't just nonsensical babble the entire time while also not adding a single thing that would damage the original Japanese text or even slightly alter the perception one might have of a character etc. good?Yeah I'd say so. But you will spend more time translating it than your average professional localization shitter does. Your work will be superior to 99.99% of the works in existence at the end of it all if that makes you feel better though.
>>285504945try testing him out with thethe classic "double the"
>>285510842pretty much this, they're great at reading kanji
>>285511586you are currently looking at the largest community of raw searchers right now
>>285511618what do I do if there's no margins
>>285512567Anon, I've played around with AI translation on and off. It typically couldn't even distinguish between sentences like, "I did this." vs "You did this." It's also very dicey at determining character gender even if it's the type that's scanning the artwork of the page.
>>285512838Stop using shit models.
>>285512849I use the most current models. They're still highly flawed.
>>285511618I do feel conflicted about this because our redrawer insists on redoing the sfx when it's easier to just put a sign like on the right
>>285512849But sir, these are our best models!
A.I. will mistranslate character names unless you provide it with the furigana reading.A.I. will take sentences that omit subject and guess at the subject, being wrong half the time.A.I. will scan the page of the manga, but will misjudge gender if girl has short hair or guy has long hair.It doesn't do the work for it. It requires heavy babysitting to have a competent result.
>>285512849In other words, "stop using AI", because all models are shit
>>285513067My favorite is when the manga has a girl named Ai or Kokoro, and you have to instruct it that these are people and not the words "love" or "heart".
>>285513067How long until we get a model that you can give it all the chapters so far for context, so it can learn all the characters' names, appearances and speech patterns?
>>285513118You can already do that.
>>285513118Honestly, if you give it a few paragraphs summary of the plot/genre and feed it panels of the characters, explaining who they are, that would likely help alot.As long as it saves that for reference, future uploads to it would hopefully be more consistent.
>>285513112My favorite is when they mistake え？for 絵 even when given context
>>285511618This is bullshit tardbait. "Decent" and "Mega Faggot" are the only acceptable options here. Margins should be for T/N and cliff notes.
>>285508463A lot of them really.>>285511099Kek>>285512147The latter. Even if it's there it's not seeded.
>>285513357>cliff notesYou mean like, recaps of previous chapters? Or of the current chapter? What?
>>285513468>Good and evil grow in equal measure, like an endless chain...>Break next month!
>>285513112I had this happen a lot, 漕ぐ (to row a boat) conjugates to 漕い and I had to fight with the translation to make sure it didn't translate 「こい」 into "Love"
>>285513440Old physical-only stuff that would have to be imported and scanned, or are you just a cheapskate?
>>285513246>>285513112>>285513516Are you trolling or a pro-AI false flagger? Because those examples sound ridiculous.
>>285513560Are you schizophrenic?
>>285513593Not as much as you.
Anybody know of AI based de-screening tools, or just any good de-screening workflows other then saatva or whatever it's called?Asking less for manga, and more for scanned color illustrations and photographs from artbooks and illustrated encyclopedias
>>285504459What did you even do from left to right, decrease the text size? What does that have to do with transparency?
>>285511618Anyone caring about onomatopoeia is a megafaggot.
>>285513560I mostly translate things with female casts, and anytime a girl's name could also be an object, it would assume it was the object unless instructed otherwise. Like when a girl's name was written with reverse kanji for "future" and the text kept calling Kurumi "future".
Any good guide for stitching physical double spreads? I can't find anything on the big wordpress guide
>>285513697no u
>>285513560My example was from an officially translated manga where the publisher used AI and they just dropped the chapters on the website without any QCIt was only a few months ago, too
>>285513524A bit of both. But primarily because there is no payment processors like PayPal here.
>>285513668I was just demonstrating that the fading issue becomes worse the smaller the text size istext layers are transparent. so GIMP cannot correctly display them onto a white background for some reason. however, if you export them without a background then they're fine
>>285513800Good. EOPs deserve shit translation and paywall groups deserves to be outcompeted.
Everyday I'm waiting for someone to lessen my burden and license one of my series.
Can someone please pick up "Nisemono no Renkinjutsushi" maybe even redo some of the bad esl chapters
>>285514103Seems that's the same on Linux, which makes sense if it's from the text layers being transparent. Though at the font sizes you'd usually use to make stuff readable I don't think it's much of a problem.
>>285513629Maybe try Google's. You get a 3 month trial to do shit with almost anything Google Cloud/Gemini AFAIK. I tried the free Nano Banana or whatever and it did a very mediocre job on a scanned cover. I could've tried some Pro model but I was too lazy to set up the stupid API key. My scanner is super old and shitty and I was too lazy to mess around with Photoshop.Left is original, right is AI. It changed the resolution, redrew small details for some reason, etc.
>>285517697forgot pic
>>285517697You forgot your file, anon
>mangaka for a series I translate tweets about a new chapter>someone replies in english saying they're tired of it and it's definitely going to get axed because it isn't fun anymoreTotal EOP death.
>>285518114Definitely rude of the EOP, but was there a grain of truth about what they said about the manga?
>>285513629you might be able to find some models on openmodeldb. just install chaiNNer to run themsomething like this might work? https://openmodeldb.info/models/1x-Bendel-Halftone
>>285518178The manga can be hard to follow but it's always been that way. It's also quite a few volumes in and sales haven't dropped so it's unlikely to be axed soon. I'd assume it's someone who binged it recently and lost interest when they had to wait for chapters. Regardless, no matter how true it might be, it's disturbing how little etiquette some readers show. Like they aren't conscious they're speaking to a human being.
>>285518114Could be worse>mangaka makes a random tweet>someone replies with a photo of their screen with a scanlation of their manga
The fuck happened here
>>285518736Blind person posts AI slop
>>285518736You know how there's been an AI schizo newfag shilling his shit every few weeks on the board since last year after the hack? (If not, just check his images in archive)Well, he believes the scanlation thread is actually off topic and his AI gen spam threads are on topic and has probably been reporting this thread constantly, hence the decreased frequency of it staying up. When that fails, this happens.
>>285500123I work as a letterer and cleaner professionally. Been working on Trigun lately. Its fun but very tiring sometimes. Older manga tend to be very work heavy.
>よろしくGimme your best out of context shots for something idiosyncratically Japanese.
>>285520023Just steal
>>285518583I hate twitter so much. I don't even use it but the fact that it exists just makes my life worse by its mere existence
>>285521391I only use it to follow some twitter artists and see if they might upload some oneshots or teaser chapters for some new works but that's it
>>285520068ok it feels like it's way more than just creepy and the TLer didn't even try
>>285518114This means that the dude read it on another site and then looked for the author's twitter and I don't know which is worse. That he thought his opinion was so valuable that he felt he needed to do so, or that he was so booty-blasted that he did it.>and it's definitely going to get axedLMAO. People who can't even name 3 magazines think they have any experience with manga serialization. Always makes my sides quake!
>>285522162夜露死苦 means よろしく means yoroshiku
Hard shoot but does anyone have the raws for the last 3 chapters of Shiawase Miman?
Dying to get anything done after the post-holiday slow down.Doesn't help new job means less time to do anything hobby-related
>>285522162It's one of those things where your name is "Pekka" and you write in complex Kanji that sound the same but come of as "Dark Phoenix Massacre" read another way.>>285518114I feel something like that happened with Kengan.
>Want to work on something>Get bored when I'm actually working
I always get tired of a oneshot before I can properly qc it, I have like 5 sitting in my drive. Is the only solution to get someone to qc for me
Hello Scanlators, I would like to ask a question: How did you guys learn Japanese? I want to get into it, but I'm sort of looking around into more "immersive" type of learning. Currently I'm using "TheMoeWay", but the guide feels more focused on hearing/writing than reading, which is what I'm more interested in. I do realize those are important too, but curious if there's any method that's more focused on reading. Thanks!
>>285526691Just read shit, no other way.
>>285526691>the guide feels more focused on hearing/writingThey release thousands of pirated LN under their name. So, no, it doesn't.
>>285501391>>285501702>>285504459But what about Krita?
>>285526691>>>/int/djt
>>285525475just release it, the readers will QC it for you
>>285526691https://learnjapanese.moe/readingtips/
I'm looking for some fonts recommendations>font that has a heart and musical note glyph (CC Meanwhile has it but only for the bold/italic/bold italic font, not the regular font)>fonts for moans (I usually use subsequent sparkling, cdx sidewinder, mango, ss soapy hands) >fonts for doujin covers' titles
>>285527934Who!?
>>285528723As someone who wants to get into translation, what fonts are the most commonly used/accepted? I only know about CC Wild Words
I have memory of a goldfish, but some that I use frequently: CC Meanwhile, CC Victory Speech, CC Samaritan Tall, CDX Star Streak, Spinner Rack BB for the main dialogue and then figure out what's best for the rest by looking at this reference.
Is there a scanlation of Doctor Messiah anywhere?
>>285511618a seething faggot with no redrawing skills made thiseither that or a speedshitter
>>285530669more effort doesn't always mean bettersometimes you're just wasting time making it worse
>>285531907The very definition of a skill issue. It's ultimately up to you whether the results are worth the time but "if you're bad it turns out bad" isn't an excuse, let alone one you get to shame others for pulling off. If you're just starting to put effort into SFX there will of course be times it looks worse and may be worth undoing, but that's the process of improvement.
>>285529471Experience has taught me that the thing you need to worry about the most when picking for normal dialogue is the width
>>285530669A well known EOP weeb sc/a/n regular made it. The schizo convinced himself that making sfx dietetic like they are for people that can read nip is "ruining the art". Years ago he got baited by a raw page of a manga that uses latin alphabet for sfx instead of hiragana/katakana and went on one of his back then threadly sperge outs making a total clown out of himself. Now that scan threads are a rotting corpse of what they once were he doesn't bother sperging out anymore and just spams that shitty pic in every thread.
>>285512669I remember trying to feed chatgtp a history-based text and gave it lengthy instructions to stick as close as possible to the original text, not localize anything, and to assume the reader has the same knowledge the original Japanese author assumed the reader had. Still managed to write "end of the Edo period" instead of "Bakumatsu".
Where do you guys upload your releases, with MD being pozzed beyond recognition and Bato and Comick died?
>>285530669>>285533640>N-NYOOOO BUT I SPENT 3 DAYS REDRAWING PANELS, ARE YOU SAYING I WASTED ALL THAT TIME IN VAIN??lmao at scanlets
>>285501702gimp is photoshop for people who love to pull their their hair out in great clumps while screaming. photoshop is gimp for people who are not insane and like to edit pictures without trying to find some simple function behind gazillion windows. just download the crack nigga.
>>285534247>>285534338the first one wasn't embarrassing enough so you needed to double down?
>>285512669shame, i was thinking of trying to translate newest kino no tabi light novels using ai and someone who can proofread and tell me if theres any fatal flaws.
>>285518392English replies to Japanese tweets are always complete cancer because the only people rude enough to tweet in English to people that don't speak English are rude jackasses that can't behave in general.
i miss gomennasai...
>>285528667don't do this
>>285517715
>>285529286>>285529471Thanks for the guidesAny font for handwritten scribble scripts or I should just draw the scripts myself?
>>285534656Photoshop has away more hidden shit and windows then GIMP does though?
>>285537123...no?
>>285533640>making sfx dietetic
I dunno man, japanese onomatopoeia just looks cooler than english onomatopoeia
>>285537034How?
>>285511618Decent is literally the best choice.
>>285537654It is a very aesthetic writing system indeed.
>>285530388Do you mean raws or are you asking if someone worked on it?
>>285534153MD.If not then post it here and tell people they're free to post it on MD.
>>285539334What if I want to do a relatively recent series and I suspect they will delete it?
>>285539395Or a series that's already been deleted from there?
>>285539495Far as I can tell, there's no page for it.
>>285539395By the time manga gets deleted again yours would have been saved by the usual scrapper sites, and it will be circulating normally online. Unless they start another purge immediately after you upload it.
>>285518583Reminds of that time someone tweeted toy catalog leaks to a Kamen Rider producer.
>>285537844It's Topaz Labs, plugins for Photoshop, I use "Topaz Clean 3 (3.2.0)" together with " Topaz DeNoise 6 (v6.0.1)". You will need to spend some time with it experimenting.
Does anyone here use chatgpt/gemini to proofread your TL?
>>285543097Always. Because I don’t like talking to people.
LOL
>>285539608Sometimes it doesn't get saved
Can someone please recommend a good untranslated manga? I want to try the Miyazaki method of story reading.
>>285545788I dunno your tastes but read jigoku koshien
>>285546051Thanks anon
>>285543097fuck no, I don't even proofread my own shit, typos are SOUL
>>285545788>Miyazaki method of story readingWhat's that?
>>285536032a few of his doujinshi are genuine masterpieces
>>285547261he probably means hidetaka miyazaki, the creator of the souls franchise. the guy liked to read western fantasy novels like tolkein even though he didnt really understand them. this is the experience he purportedly wanted to emulate for the player in his games.
>>285549998Oh yeah, sounds like when I was reading Robert E Howard as an ESL kid. Lots of difficult purple prose in those.
>>285545788Not exactly untranslated, but I sometimes pick up manga that hasn't been fully translated. Like Furuya Minoru's manga (Ping Pong Club and Himeanoru).
>>285511618based
>>285533640>making sfx dietetic likedumb normalfaggot
What the hell, mangadex users are more tolerant towards MTL than panda users. I didn't know this since I never use dex. I thought normies hate MTL slop.
>>285553782A shit scan is better than no scans
>>285553809I disagree.
>>285553809A shit scan can ruin a series, no scan cannot
>>285553782one of the nice things about being a yurifag is that if it's on dynastyreader it probably won't suck
>>285553919False.
>>285553950probably is the keyword here
>>285553809No, it just makes everything worse. Expect better and stop settling for less.
>>285554000mtl wouldn’t make mistakes like this.
I've been translating a series and saved up like 10-20 chapters (still haven't typeset it yet), but then someone else translated it and he's released 5 chapters so far. Should I just give up and let him do it? He's releasing a chapter like every two or three weeks. Well, actually it's an ecchi ntr manga so the reception wasn't that good on dex, I've been thinking to release it on panda but I don't know if it's allowed there.
>>285553782Yeah, some MTL "donations plz" fuckhead groups have gotten to series I've helped on because normalfags can't be assed to be patient. It's really ruining the hobby, greedy fucks.
>>285554182>but I don't know if it's allowed there.If it's a serialized non-h manga then probably not. If it was only released as tankoubon and it never appeared in any magazine then you have a chance.
Sorry for asking it here, but a doujin that I want to read only has a Chinese TL (they refused to share the raws). I've tried using ocr to capture the Chinese TL and then used chatgpt/gemini to translate it back to Japanese, but it reads like a broken MTL. How can I machine translate it back to Japanese flawlessly?
>>285554153What's wrong with it?
>>285554607>How can I machine translate it back to Japanese flawlessly?You can't. MTL doesn't know what words and grammar the author used in the original work.
>>285554607Translation is not loseless, what you want is impossible
>>285554625ugh it’s just completely wrong… or do you want some convoluted explanation like the wayo forces it into a declarative statement thus rendering the rhetorical read of janai invalid.
>>285554607Just fucking buy it if you like it that much lol
>>285554146that's something an elitist would said, not a normalfag
>>285554625it says the opposite of the Japanese
>>285544577What the loser heroine deserves.>>285545627How? Literally everything gets scrapped automatically.Hell, when I posted a new chapter for a series that wasn't touched for years they literally took the chapter as well as the previous old scans.
>>285554182Talk with him about it and see if you can get a collab.
>>285555359maybe new chapters of old series get scrapped automatically but new series don't?>>285539395>>285539546MD don't delete anything they don't get an explicit DMCA forit'll take possibly years for them to realize you're pirating and go through the paperwork of taking it downalso each chapter needs to get DMCAd individually, which is why everyone keeps uploading new chapters of nuked series without issues, it'll be years until they get a second strikedown
>>285555430>also each chapter needs to get DMCAd individuallyI don't believe this to be the case unless you think Japanese lawfirms wasted their manpower to file tens of thousands of DMCA claims instead of filing it for the series itself as intellectual property.
>>285555462If it were that easy, don't you think everyone would DMCA everything instantly?Why do you think there exist proxy agencies that handle finding pirate sites and sending DMCAs to them? It's a multi-person full-time job. Filling out URLs for 8 hours per day.
>>285555488It can easily be automated if they are serious about it. They just aren’t.
Does anyone know what font this is? Font lookup doesn't work.
>>285555488>If it were that easy, don't you think everyone would DMCA everything instantly?You can't do it instantly, it still takes years to do it because you need to reach out to responsible parties and prove your case. >Filling out URLs for 8 hours per day.That's not exactly what they do in this case. If they did then they would need to file a separate DMCA claim for each page because of how Mangadex operates and generates URLs.
>>285553950Not sucking when it comes to scanlation just means there's nothing that would make EOP readers think there's something iffy going on with the translation like blatant ESL or dialogue not making any sense. Yuri slop translations seems pretty good at that.>>285554853When someone asks that it's usually an EOP that's just curious what the page/panel actually says. Only you care about autistic grammar explanations init.
>>285554917Lets not get carried away here.
>>285555541Mouth Breather
>>285555690Misreading the source is in my book 8000 times worse than light ESLisms.
>>285555743Sure but that's a given so it can't be the threshold for "sucking".
>>285555727Thanks!
>>285555639>DMCA>prove your caseYou literally don't, you simply claim it. That's the whole point.
>>285554917I would've bought it already if the artist released it in digital. That doujin he released was only available in physical format and I can't find secondhand copies anywhere.
>>285557139Did you check sites like Buyee or Zenmarket where you can browse more secondhand sites at once? Also try to search for the artist's name alone at first or only the doujinshi title.
>>285534153Weebdex is by the same guy who made Schale, it should be safe there.
>>285557180Looks good! Thanks.And I'll spend the twenty minutes required to solve the puzzles for posting just to thank you.
>>285557172>>285557139Wait never mind, I found a physical copy on mandarake and it turns out he also recently released a digital version on his fanbox. I'll just subscribe to his fanbox. I wouldn't risk my purchase getting searched by customs.
Browsing through a hentai magazine issues to find a specific scan for an ecchi series.It's not fun.
>>285500123Does ANYONE have a guide to level colors or do I just give up, the scanlation guide basically said "good luck"
>>285560184just move the controls until it looks good ;)
>>285560184I know ALL the theory behind it and I can assure you that >>285560456 is right. There are too many lossy steps involved and shit like paper quality, scanner and display configuration and even the daytime and season can influence the quality you get. Just go for something that looks good enough.But I can give you a few things to keep in mind:- if you level at all, level BEFORE you blur it or run any filters- you don't need to level individual colors. That is for camerafags only.- minimal leveling should be enough +/-10 max- try to find color references on the artist's pixiv- adjust the vibrance after blurring, if your colors look washed- never use the descreen option on the scanner. Use Topaz Denoise + Clean to blend them together if you want to go the extra mile.
How many oneshots you worked on?
>>285562449Only 1 that I remember.It was a rec I got from these threads too.
>>285559030Have you tried using the table of contents?
>>285562538Did that. Problem is downloading the issues in the first place.I gave up and put it on the backburner. Gonna work on another series instead.
>>285562229>you don't need to level individual colors. That is for camerafags onlyI guess it's because scan shading is not as important/nuanced?
>>285564007You can check the samples or simply go by the list of artists.
>>285566645Nah, what I meant is that the issues are only on speed-limited filehosting sites. The ones that let you download 2/3 times per day. Actually looking at the ToC is a breeze.
>>285566830Check premiumizers like deepbrid and leechallYou might get about 10 extra downloads per day if you're lucky with the hosts.
can i scanlate if i am an N4 dekinai ESL retard?
>>285568939just let chatgpt do it for you
>>285568939Yeah, EOPs are used to eating shit.
>>285568939Yes. You could even be an official Crunchyroll/Seven Seas translator with those stats.
>>285566830Which magazine?
>>285568939You're overqualified.
>>285568939No but that's a good level to just start reading raws. Do that for long enough and you'll get good and also won't want to scanlate anymore anyway.
Tangentially related but I don't know where else to ask. What Mihon extensions still work? Nothing is getting updated anymore.
>>285568939woah buddy, you're a little outside my budget range there
>>285566928Tried them. Both are telling me that the filehost is reserved for premium users. Unless I'm using them wrong.>>285569253Comic X-EROS
Where can I find free raws?
>>285572526niconico
>>285571902just use exhent->taken downjust use panda.chaika.moe
>>285526691I majored in it. Pro tip: don't do that.
>>285572526get a job and buy them
>>285572658Oh shit, it works. Thanks buddy.
>>285573108I wonder if there's a timeline where people on 4chan are arguing about the merits of keeping pronouns untranslated or even keeping word beautification to better understand the ~super deep nuance~ of keigo.Like if the early fansubs chose to keep those things untranslated but ditched the honorifics. And in that 'verse innit rages about how all translators are stupid plebs because they're keeping in pronouns and word beautification while completely ignoring honorifics.
>>285568939Yes but only if you delegate all decision making to LLMs, at that level bot will be better than you 99% of the time. Your job will be mainly annotating the script for LLMs.
>>285572658Sadpanda was taken down? When?
>>285574003but that's not fun
>>285572658Got the raws I needed now.
>>285537034>>285517715the random model I linked is better: >>285518264
>>285572658X-EROS is still on sadpanda but you have to search for 'X-ERO' instead (this also applies to another few such as Kairakute instead of Kairakuten), it is missing about half of the issues from back when stuff was struck out though.
>>285576111It's somewhat sharper than the blurrier one posted previously, but it changed the color on Ritsu's ribbon and all the borders have a wavy texture, more noticeable around the hair linework.All it took was the chaiNNer installation (100 MB) and the 20 MB model? No stupid tensorflow CUDA whatever nonsense?
>>285555200>elitist means more MTL slopAnon, are you perhaps brain damaged?
>>285571902You can check all issues of X-eros online.https://book.dmm.co.jp/product/13876/volumes/
>got a bunch of manga and H-manga translated and cleaned>I hate typesetting so it's sitting there collecting digital dustHow do I motivate myself to ts shit?
>>285573508Boku thinks such a timeline existsmasu.
If large models are like 10x cheaper automating TS would be so easy
>>285576772I'm aware of the prefix search trick but I assumed that he was looking for an old issue since he didn't simply use nyaa. Now that I think about it he may not even know about nyaa, maybe I should have mentioned that first.
>>285579849No, but you seem to be.Who are you quoting?How do you get that from my post, if not by brain damage?
>>285580682Try to automate it?https://github.com/Imangascans/automatic-typesetter
>>285572574speaking of niconico, how tf do you rip from there?
>>285581984Hakuneko works you just need to login
>>285581785I'm already using typeset buddy which improved the process a lot, but it's still the job that I hate the most.
Can anyone recommend me good fonts for sex moans? I've been thinking to buy a pen tablet but still can't decide which one, is XP-Pen Deco 01 v2/v3 still the most solid option for a cheap pen tablet?>>285581785is this better than TypeR?https://typer.hayasaku.fr/
BEING A VTUBER IS MORE PROFITABLE THAN SCANLATING
>>285582308What about a scannie vtuber
>>285582308Shill your vtuber channel bro.
>>285582037I can help a little bit with h-manga if you want, if you don't care much about ideal typesetting and shit.>>285582197>is this better than TypeR?Dunno. I don't use automation, since I type only one chapter every month.>>285582308>scanlating>profitable
>>285518114>>285518583EOPs on Xitter are the most entitled fags I've seen, even worse than Webtoon readers. They've been having almost a week-long meltdown over Bato's shutdown and harrassing Korean authors instead of just shutting the fuck up about it. We all know scans are illegal and only 10% at best of them actually help sales (and usually only boost sales of series that were already mega popular in Japan and would've been localized regardless of scans), just google the next scan site and suck it up. If they actually cared about archiving they'd be torrenting for file quality and seeding to provide the "unseen gems" to others. All that energy spent whining and arguing could've been used to at least follow and give engagement to their favorite authors on Twitter or heckle scanlators into actually putting the author's socials/manga buying links on their credits pages. I swear it's only English speakers who try to make pirating moral instead of acknowledging the fact that they're engaging in behavior that's likely a net negative to authors for the sake of their own convenience and shutting up about it.
Can anyone here share Ames Pro? All the links I've come across are dead, unfortunately.
>>285574898couple months ago
>>285582308picking gum off the underside of a park bench is more profitable than scanlating
>>285583101Works on my machine...
>>285582870https://v. gd/71SMT3
>>285583175where the fuck does someone even find 3Tb of dolphin porn. I didn't know that much even existed in the world
>>285562449>How many oneshots you worked on?If we're counting all the series I dropped after Ch.1 due to low interest, well...
>>285583175>shortened link to a pisscord attachment that will expire in a monthwhy not just catbox it?
>ai tl :(>ai redraw :)
>>285582037So how long does it take you to typeset a page with like 5 bubbles?
>>285583549Can you judge the output of an automated translation?Can you judge the output of an automated typeset?
>>285581356It was the first place I looked at. Could only find a handful of issues.
>>285583549People care about translation, and they don't care about redraws. And like ~70% will be covered by text anyway.
>>285572741I'll buy things for myself not for other people.
>>285583549>you NEED to meticulously hand draw this dot/line pattern the mangaka pulled from a template in 5 seconds then scrambled as the page was compressed and resizedLiterally no one besides typesetters is capable of noticing the quality of a redraw. It's about maintaining the illusion of coherent art and nothing more.
>>285584248>People care about translationPeople gobble up the most incomprehensible English word spaghetti regardless of how little it has to do with what's actually said.
>>285582308Yeah, I've been doing doujinshi translations for almost two years and so far I've only got around 300-400 bucks from commissions. Maybe it's because my rate is low, like $0.8/page for full translation and $1/page with simple sfx. Well, I'm happy that my people reach out to me though. My recent (commissioned) release was Igumox's Muramata-san no Aijou chapter 4-6. I hope Igumox comes back with another sequel this year. Sorry for the plug.
Something I like about reading comments is that you start to recognize commenters and notice how funny some of these guys behavior is.Like I had someone swear up and down that he is dropping the manga after a villainess was shown to have been forced to do the things she did. A few chapters later she dies and the dude chimes in to celebrate her death, after not commenting since he said he dropped it.
>>285587216Some do, not all.
>>285587840You should get real friends.
>>285587216No, like, if you ask people if they prefer good translation over AI, most will agree. And I guess about half will agree that they prefer AI over bad translation. And almost all of them will agree that they rather have AI translation, than no translation at all.In the same vein, if you ask people if they prefer proper redraws over AI redraws, almost all of them will make confused Pikachu face and say they don't care either way.
>>285588118But if I did that I won't have time to scanlate.....
>>285588357It's pointless to ask shit-eating retards what they prefer when they can't tell the difference
>>285588925If there's no glaring mistakes like he/she and other shit like that made by people who doesn't know Japanese (and/or English), don't proofread MTL text and don't care about what they shit out at all, then there's hardly anyone who can tell the difference without checking raws. And those who can check raws and notice mistakes, usually don't read scanlation.
>>285577644>All it took was the chaiNNer installation (100 MB) and the 20 MB model?yes. there's an entire library of models like that. maybe go through them to find something that suits youhttps://openmodeldb.info/
>>285589554guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r-nhJ_Cf1k
>>285582308I would absolutely make a channel showing the TL process. (not a vtuber tho)(Also I'd probably get shut down immediately too)
>>285590903>TL processAs in translation process? What's there to even show? You read nip and write english in a text editor. The end.
>>285592521no it would be interesting. to know what goes on behind all thatof course you would have to have some kind of entertainment value, not just silently type in notepad
>>285592521I meant the whole thing, cleaning & redrawing (some stuff, just enough so it's not confusing in the places that the text won't cover), and then typesetting & translating at the same time. It'd probably be as entertaining as vtubers drawing illustrations. Which is not much anyway.
>>285592682I can see highly scripted edutainment for weebs being moderately entertaining but just plain translation? Not unless you're piggybacking of manga with a relatively big following. >>285592704You could totally do that. If you're entertaining enough of a clown to get big enough for corpos/platforms to care that what you're doing is technically illegal you can just pivot to reacting to other people content or playing gaymes like the rest of streamer clowns.
>>285592682I've generally seen positive feedback whenever TLs go deep into the logic behind their translation choices. But I can't imagine how bad the backseat translating would be if you livestreamed it.
using gimp to scanlate doujins is hell
>>285595159I did that for a couple of years because I was using a very shitty old notebook at work and I thought that linux was my only option. Wine+PS didn't work at all because of the low specs.Turns out that pirating win7 and PS CS3 improved my productivity by a lot in the same shitty computer.Looking back I feel like a total cuck for enduring GIMP for so long when better options were just as free.
>>285595266I'm on win10 and not bothered looking to pirate PS since I know they moved to some shitty subscription service, and I'm about to upgrade to W11 when I rebuild my PC this year so I dont think I'd be able to pirate whatever PS works on W11
>>285595343??I pirated PS2025 and is way more than fine without any subscriptions. The only thing you can't use is the AI as a service bullshit, but the local remove tool and spot healing tool still run laps over all the competition. (specially fucking GIMP)You can install whatever you want in w11 too as far as I know, you just have to enable some "sideload" setting or whatever.
>>285595523Maybe I'll give it a shot then, I just assumed it'd be as shitty as pirating Microsoft Office where you need some weird registry edit shit to stop Windows checking itNot being able to do text + background colour automatically in GIMP is a bitch
>>285595343Windows is generally very good at backwards compatibility. Old versions of Photoshop just work. You don't have to get the latest version.
>>285596077well shit it works and has actual text bordering, this would have sped up some other works I did so much
>>285582750Yeah, people who cry should just download shit.
I feel for those that are forced to use Windows because of the Adobe suite.I'm never going back.
>>285511618you will never get hired as a professional in our industry
>>285596919L*nux desktop is such a meme propagated by nerds with zero vision what good OSs could be. If you're not a tinkertranny and just want to be productive windows is still the least shit turd available to you.
>>285588925Then there’s no difference and you should use ai redraw to deliver the chapters faster, anything else would be betraying your readers
>>285539301Either is fine.
does anyone know where to find this font? I searched "ab's hand" in google but nothing came up
>>285598856Likefont is telling me this is BethsShittyHandwriting Medium. But I can't even find that.
Waiting on you, anon.
Ganbare, anon!
>>285595733??Pirating MS Office is as easy as pirating Windows itself. Regedit nonsense was the time when KMS activator was the shit (c.a. 2014) but now nobody bothers with that nonsense since there's a better solution. You should dig into MS' graveyard.
>>285553809no, no you need to wait and pray for the illuminated, divine scanlation people deliver one volume per year.
>>285589554That's cool. Thanks.
>>285602229>Regedit nonsense was the time when KMS activator was the shitYes, that's how long ago I did this shit
Are there any good untranslated smut/ecchi series? Something like Tsuyatsuya's works. I'm kinda burned out from translating doujin.
>>285602292Understandable. You'd be taking a breath of relieve since there's a better tools to pirate ms products.
Don't die.
>>285582750Real, tourists claim to be for something while not actually knowing what said thing is about is a classic tale as old as time.They say "preservation" when they really mean "I just want my shit for free yo". And then when people try to actively preserve things, they just ignore it and enjoy MTL shit like a damn dime novel. Honestly, makes me want to just quit while we are behind. Let the kids suffer the endless slop.
CSP or PS?
>>285606280Typesetting in CSP is miles behind Photoshop in my experience. CSP can be better if you're only redrawing there and plan to typeset in PS, but you better be sure that during typesetting you won't have to go back and fix something, because that'll be annoying. I tried that for a chapter or two and found that it's just more convenient to do everything in PS.
>>285597197Lately I've been having more problems with Windows than on Linux.It's ironic you say that when just a few days ago I booted my Windows partition and it deleted my fucking GPU drivers for no apparent reason after a Windows Update.That made me decide to nuke the Windows partition as I don't really have any use for it anymore.And a few months ago, when I got my new motherboard, the wifi, bluetooth and ethernet card was not working.I had to manually download drivers from the motherboard website from another computer and install them from a USB pen drive to get them working.On Linux? Everything worked out of the box.Anyway, for anyone thinking they really need Adobe, you should watch this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm51xZHZI6gI'm dying to see how this will be mangled in the post:Ⱥ #NOADOBE 𝗡 𝗢 𝗔 𝗗 𝗢 𝗕 𝗘 𝗦 𝗢 𝗙 𝗧 𝗪 𝗔 𝗥 𝗘• ᴡᴀꜱ ᴜꜱᴇᴅ ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴀᴋɪɴɢ ᴏꜰ ᴛʜɪꜱ ᴡᴏʀᴋ •
>>285606651But the mangaka typeset in CSP, don't they?
>>285607284Mangaka don't typeset, that's editor work.
>>285607284Actually many mangaka WIP versions of pages I've seen have handwritten text. And a lot of metadata from Bookwalker pages suggests they're exported using Photoshop anyway, so I don't know how many professionals use the CSP typesetting.
>The only time people praised my redrawing was with the one panel I used Banana on
Are the good translating and scanlating tools still stuck behind a paywall? I try using google translate, the most accessible layman tool, and it is still as awful as ever.
>>285608713You can learn Japanese for free
>>285605550nice
>>285608096I don’t even know how to redraw without banana
>>285599914thanks for trying. that's either not the real name or it's like its been scrubbed from the internetthese people also tried to find it. https://www.whatfontis.com/post-77872.html
>>285608713
>>285609347picrelAAAAAAAAAAHI'm spending so much more time on basic cleaning and typesetting than translating. Does this mean I actually speak Japanese or that I suck ass at graphics?
>>285599914Bing finds Beths Shitty Handwriting on some Chinese sites. But though it looks similar enough, it's obviously not the same.>>285608096What happened with that for them to pay attention to redraw, not to mention praising it?>>285609166Yeah, that's banana. Not even pro. This time it didn't distort image too much, so it all more or less fit right. I actually tried to see if it could remove all screentones after redrawing and leaving only line art, but it didn't work.
>>285609532> I actually tried to see if it could remove all screentones after redrawing and leaving only line art, but it didn't work.Can’t you just only blend the blackest levels of the banana layer
>>285609347Only a retard would try to translate this.If you had 105 IQ, you'd find the Japanese Wikipedia article this is copied from, and copy from the English version of it.Erasing the original text should be easy with photoshop smart selection tools
>>285598856Where'd you find that? I don't see it on >>285529286
>>285609805It's also a good read as far as Wikipedia articles gohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_censorship_hypothesis
>>285609532It was a very hard panel with multiple texts in different sizes on the art, taking two thirds of it. I would have needed more than a day to do it the regular way or even with IOPaint.They also praised my typesetting, which did take a while and required me to work with the TL to get it right. But still, I wish they thanked me for one of the other harder pages I've did manually. I did have to add a missing part that wasn't added properly on Banana afterward so there is that.
>>285609347You got off easy.
>>285609668I just had an idea for banana to redraw and then remove all screentones at the same time (since there's only so much can be done for free), and tested it one some random image. The manga I work on actually has better image quality and more visible/bigger screentones, and since banana fucking them up anyway and then removing them is a pain in the ass, most of the time it would be better to have only line art. I'm sure it can be done with the right promt.
>>285610147Cont.Yeah, kinda like this one >>285610126 I tested it now again, and it more or less worked, though it being non-pro banana, it fucked image up as usual. The prompt was:>Remove all Japanese text and redraw the covered area!!! Do NOT redraw anything else!!! Do NOT add speech bubbles. Remove all screen tones, leaving only clean line art.
>>285610384That's a long finger
>>285502457that's how you sound when you try to speak, weeaboo
>>285511618doubling up on the sfx is the worst option by far. you're occluding more of the work to shove your garbage typeset sfx in the reader's face.>>285513357this. marginniggers must kill themselves.
>>285611344Still better than local dialects like Kansai, Osaka, etc.
>you must translate different Japanese dialects into either southern american or nigger speechNo.
>>285612313Go with aussie or scottish instead
>>285612313I translate it as working-class britbongish.
>>285612620You translate everything as working-class britbongish.
>>285612313People mostly go for generic southern because it's very recognizably different. The main idea to get across is "different dialect".
>>285612447No, I'll translate it to normal English and add a few notes and keep a few flavor words/phrases from the actual dialect because I'm not some fag that needs to de-Japanify the script every chance I get. This isn't quite as hard as you'd think and its better than just including a bunch of random western dialects that may as well be smothering out the Japanese culture of the work.The main problem I'm running into with translating is pronouns. I keep getting stuck between whether to include them or not, its tough to do stuff like uchi-ra and atashi because it feels relevant to the character speech and losing it hurts but then the whole thing will become annoying to read for some people and I keep flip flopping back and forth on this. Also for certain kinds of honorifics when its like o-mizu should I just put o-water?
>>285605550>>285609532>>285610126>>285610384>>285610147What is bannana, an AI tool?
>>285613154>when its like o-mizu should I just put o-water"This esteemed water" to provide the same level of respect the Japanese text is presenting. Same with o-mise being "esteemed shop" or "esteemed establishment" depending on context. EOPs won't understand what "o-" is supposed to be otherwise.
>>285613235i remember reading esteemed brother in anime subs
>>285613305That is the only proper translation of お兄さん
>>285612447>Aussie for Osaka>Scottish for Kansai>partially Old English for Kyoto>>285613189>Nano Banana is the codename for Google's Gemini 2.5 Flash Image model, designed for fast, efficient, and conversational AI image generation and editing. It specializes in maintaining consistency for subjects across edits and powers creative workflows. A higher-end variant, Nano Banana Pro (Gemini 3 Pro Image), offers professional-grade, high-fidelity, and text-accurate generation
Anybody want to remake the Kochikame meme page?
>>285613554This bothers me. A lot.
>>285613235I don't think you need to look down on people that much. A TL note explaining how o- adds politeness and respect should be enough for people to learn. Why does everyone act like English speakers will get mind broken over this kind of stuff? A fair portion of the people reading probably won't even actually understand the word esteemed without a dictionary and they'll be able to learn that if they want to, but the o- honorific? No English person could ever learn that even if it was explained to them on the side.
>>285613852>No English person could ever learn that even if it was explained to them on the side.Which is why a TL note won't suffice.
