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Winter Storm Fern is coming!
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>>285504090
Fortunately she has enough milk reserves to last the winter. Nobody will go hungry nor freeze while nestled within her bountiful bosom.
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>>285504090
FAT
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Being close to one another allows you to share body heat in order to remain warm.
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holy sexo
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>>285504876
What is this creature?
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Stark is so lucky
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>>285504879
peroperoperoperopero
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>>285504879
I can't get enough delicious girl tummy.
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made for gobbos
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>>285505087
That's me
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>>285504876
Imagine the blowjobs.
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You just know...
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>don't step on m-AAAACKKK
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>>285505424
They did the meme
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>>285504879
You people said she was fat.
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>>285504090
I want Fern to hug me into her coat
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>>285505424
fat fuck
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>>285505431
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>>285504090
She doesn't look like this.
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>>285505424
wait that's...
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>>285505508
That's not fern dummy
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>>285505431
VADE RETRO SATANA
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>>285504090
Can I skip the magical exam and just start with S2? S1 was one of my favorite fantasy anime until then. Just didn't like the change. I could motive myself to get through it if we are back into fantasy adventuring in S2.
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Frieren thinks the poster above is a demon
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>>285504759
Yes but the good kind of fat.
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>>285505508
She is.
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>>285504841
SNAAAAAKEE!!!
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>>285506159
uh that's a photo of sex
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So uh... can demons become pregnant? Asking for a friend of course...
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>>285504841
Stop bullying sneks.
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>>285506078
>Can I skip the magical exam and just start with S2?
Not really, we're back into fantasy adventuring (for now) but some of the characters in that arc come back for this season.
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>hfw she saw your dick
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>>285504090
Is it possible to like this series without being horny?
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>>285506888
No. You need to love them horns.
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>>285506888
the series is pretty laser focused on just being about hot guys and girls doing SoL stuff so no
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>>285504879
I just knew someone would pause, screenshot this frame and post on /a/
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The smug Frieren laugh fills my soul with happiness.
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>>285504090
so fat
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She went full Snoopy
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>>285506166
So the real trick to draw Frieren looking up is just do it in Peanuts style.
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>>285504879
Someone add a bulge to recognise
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>>285507131
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>>285507178
I think most people from that era are dead already.
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>>285504876
umazing
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Why don't humans simply rape the demons?
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These episodes and chapters always kind of blend together for me. I thought at first it was the town where she has to pay off an old debt.
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>>285506495
If she's pregnant, I have a solution.
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>>285504879
Ok, maybe the demon apologists have a point
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>>285504090
expect babies in october/november. happens alot in new england :3
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>>285507256
>>285507257
The duality of Man.
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>>285504879
The internet has more pornography than the male species could collectively ever consume and this is hotter than all of it. Explain.
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They did a great job with the HOTS part of the episode, that was best of s1 tier. The rest was good too
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demons are formed by the absence that mana leaves after it is used by mages
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I think I'm in love with Sense
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Good episode. I have nothing further to add.
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>>285504090
wow I never knew this show existed until now
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtdSPZNWT1AuEnWLElajRzm2DZhx1tVhd
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>>285506078
The magical exam introduces a ton of worldbuilding, about a dozen characters and throws both Fern and Frieren into the uncomfortable situation of having to deal with other people which is supremely important for their growth as characters. It is also simply a lot of fun. All of the disdain surrounding it as some sort of pointless shounen interlude feels very contrived and is fundamentally mistaken.
Stopping to actually enjoy the journey and interact with others is what this series is about, that's what an adventure is.
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>>285504090
what does she smell like
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>>285504876
>>285505087
Remember this is the year of horse.
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>>285507428
Pine trees and McDonald's fries.
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>>285507428
my semen
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Stark will fuck both Fern and Frieren
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>>285507428
Freshly laundered clothes
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>>285506730
Anon, holy fucking shit. You are missing the entire point.

Part of the entire problem with the series' characterization of demons is that being a sociopath (which demons essentially are) doesn't necessarily make someone murderously evil. Just because demons don't experience love or empathy themselves doesn't mean they're incapable of observing that humans dislike it when you kill people, or realizing that murder will turn humans against them, or even deciding for themselves that murder is wrong on an intellectual level even if they have no gut aversion to it.

The series tells us that demons are just monsters and animals, but animals (and other monsters) don't behave like that. It says that demons lack empathy, but their characterization is more like demons have the Evil Gene and are cursed by an evil deity such that their reasoning and understanding of the world inevitably misleads them into evil, even when they are trying to avoid it, and even when it's completely self-destructive and self-defeating for their goals.

Animals are not like demons. Wild beasts are not intelligent and able to communicate with other species. Wild beasts do not understand human morality or strictly adhere to their own. Wild beasts do not possess all the components necessary to adopt human morals. Demons do. They are incomparable to animals.

If the demons have all this intellect and self control over their own behavior, then it makes absolutely no sense why they can't adopt another moral code to coexist with human beings.
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>>285504879
BEGONE DEMON
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>>285507566
There is no problem with the characterization of demons in this series, people who subscribe to retarded philosophies and can't comprehend fantasy worlds with different rules just don't like it.

>why can't demons adopt another moral code
because they choose not to
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>>285507650
fern should be USA
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>>285507566
So what you're saying is that the real evil is racism and the end game is destroying whatever causes demons to commit half of the murders despite being 13% of the population?
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>>285507653
No. The problem is that they have all the intelligence, sentience, and self control to be able to change their beliefs and simply not be evil anymore, but no reason is given as to why they can't. It also fundamentally contradicts the themes of the story
>We should value everyone's life experiences even if we consider them lesser
>Except demons, fuck them.
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>whole town revolves around keeping the demon bait sword and killing demons
kino i didn't realize that when i read it the first time
will Macht get his own movie? is that why we only get 10 episodes this season?
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what if we just kept feeding her?
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>>285507458
Fat face.
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>>285507566
demon bad
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Need webms of Frieren flying back down after defeating the sword demon where her skirt is flapping around AND the ass shot where she kneels to pray
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>>285507717
Anon, the entire point is that the demons are written very poorly and in a contradictory way. Putting up a panel explaining why demons are the way that they are, does nothing to address that. You're responding to a doylist argument with a watsonian answer.
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>>285507680
No you're just retarded, and you're treating demons like they are equivalent to humans/elves/dwarves because they have intelligence too, but that is wrong.

The themes of this story concern people, not the intelligent monsters who prey upon them.
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>>285507650
Wouldn't Aura/Linie be the koreans?
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>>285507779
>It's contradictory because I said so!
no
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>>285507779
demon bad
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>>285506078
That was essential world building. You need to see it to understand everything else.
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>>285507695
She'd become Kirby and inhale demons to steal their powers.
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>>285507680
>no reason is given as to why they can't
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>>285507680
>We should value everyone's life experiences even if we consider them lesser
That has never been a theme of the story.
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>the demons simp is having a full melty again
Lmao
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Reminder that Fern will be revealed to be half demon by the end of the series.
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>>285507847
>We should value everyone's experiences
>Except for demons, fuck them
Do you not see how this is contradictory?
>Nothing is impossible! Let me show you! Says Stark
>Except understanding and coexisting with demons is impossible

>The story shows Frieren understanding beings she considers lesser because of their inferior lifespan
>Except demons are in fact just lesser

>The story says that the experiences of people are just as valuable as Frieren's own
>Yet, it says that demons are invaluable
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>>285505508
She isn't
Sure she eats a ton in cities, but she's also traveling for weeks at a time so she really burns it all off.
Fern eating so much is basically her enjoying really good, hot food because she won't know when she's getting anything better than travel rations again
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>>285507730
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>>285507912
Are we just outright denying reality now?
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>>285507919
Since when is Call Me is considered unccore?
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I'm not gay but I was for a second. I'm not though
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>>285507815
Anon, if they have intelligence, sentience, and an understanding of morality, along with all the self control to make their own decisions, then there should be literally nothing stopping them from changing their beliefs to coexist with human beings. There's nothing explaining why they can't.
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>>285507942
holy fuck that scrawny elf has a bigger butt than fern the fattie
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>>285507942
butt
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>>285507950
>Are we just outright denying reality now?
No, just denying your retarded hallucinations.
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>>285507730 .
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She was already in demon slaying mode at this point.
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>>285507932
Dumbest post of the thread award.
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>>285508014
>>285507995
>No refutations
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all this time and people are STILL filtered by demons
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>>285507998
She just hates red apples.
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>>285508035
Yes, people are filtered by bad writing. That's an inevitability for someone with a functioning brain.
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The puppet show
They used a professional company based in Tokyo to make actual puppets, choreographed a fight, filmed it then rotoscoped it
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>>285508035
Real demon coexistence has never been tried.
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>>285507680
What the fuck is this guy on about
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>>285508055
And who was responsible for red apples? Mazoku that's who.
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>>285507399
for u anon
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>>285508029
>the earth is flat
>you are dumb
>oh wow, no refutation?
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Anon will be eaten by a demon and say we must understand them better and that humans are the really baddies while she chews through his fat belly
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>>285508063
I guess when you have a huge budget you have to get creative about how you spend it
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>>285508029
We can't prove a negative, retard. You asserted that there's a thing that doesn't exist in the story. How do we refute something that doesn't exist? Your hallucinations are all in your head where we can't see them.
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just one image for demon defenders
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>>285507950
>posts a panel that has literally nothing to do with his thesis
Is this guy schizoposting? Is he seeing extra words we're not?
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>>285504854
Impressive. Very nice.
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I wish Fern would eat everyone who discusses demon morality in Frieren threads
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>>285507996
Where is the double headpat
I was told there would be a synchronized headpat
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>>285508063
Based. Reminds me of KyoAni last year building a whole miniature set and doing stop motion for an episode of CITY.
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>>285508120
I didn't scroll down lel
>>285504879
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I love Karen
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>>285508105
das raycist
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>>285508063
>rotoscoped
But I was told this is cringe by /a/
???
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>>285507923
is kino of this degree even achievable? i doubt it. it's too good to expect.
>>285507878
basically.
>>285508095
menheras can be hot now and then wow
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>>285508103
The only way you could think that the themes I brought up aren't the themes of the story, is if you aren't reading the story. That's what I get the impression about a lot of you retards who try and defend the abysmal writing of the show. You're just on it to feel a part of something, like some stupid culture war.
>>285508078
So, to be clear, you're saying that the demons aren't sentient, intelligent, have their own morality, come up with their own complex theories on magic, and have their own self control?

Frieren fans never respond to any of these arguments, they just try and mock them to get them away because they know deep down they don't have a refutation to any of them
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I like fat girls and I cannot lie
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>>285504879
turn off the monkey brain during fight anon
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>>285508186
fern is not fat!
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>>285508195
sorry anon but the heiter nagant has more class
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>>285508229
obese
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Already up to the episode about the Hero of the South? The strongest hero of humanity that disappeared without leaving behind a very large legend, just because it wasn't his role to stand out.
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>>285508174
Not when puppetry is involved.
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>>285504879
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>>285507257
she would kill you, retards
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>>285508109
This panel is showing that a human being could be more adept at learning magic than Frieren despite her limited lifespan, and thus she learns that humans can have just as valuable knowledge as she can.
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>>285508177
Demons will be redeemed one way or another by the time they get to Ende, just accept it now.
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everyone says the OP sucks, but i quite like it. maybe i just have shit music taste
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>>285508240
wizards with guns always make me think of chaika
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>>285508265
I can't wait until the series tries to pull a 180 on the demons, even though it would make no fucking sense to do so, and all the poltard fans of Frieren pretend like none of their salivating over eliminating demons ever happened.
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>>285508229
the dumb weebniggers can deny
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it happened again...
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>>285507730
>>285507942
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How would you fatten Fern?
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>>285507978
The sword demon pretty much explained it: why stop eating people?
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i think fern should be twice as fat as she currently is
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wait Frieren S2 started????
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>>285508307
Because now that human beings have the ability to fight them, they'll eventually go extinct? They don't even have to fucking eat humans to survive. They should be able to do a cost benefit analysis and figure out that harming people isn't in their best interest.
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>>285507996
>>285508287
Blessed
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>>285508300
sweets, doh
you can eat far more calories in sweets than you can in meat or veggies before you're full
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>>285508329
I'm beginning to think you don't even watch this show anon
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I want to sneak extra sugar into Fern's food and watch her grow
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>>285508300
protein and monounsaturated fats
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>>285508345
And yet Macht resisted killing people for fifty years. Funny that.
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>>285508319
No, this is a group rewatch.
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>>285508074
thanks
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>>285508181
>sentient
Yes. They can recognize themselves in a mirror
>intelligent
Yes. Smarter than (You)
>morality
No. Subjective morality doesn't exist. They are monsters in the same way every monster is a monster. They prey on non-monsters. For some reason this should be tolerated though ??
Plus. Many of them are sadistic and evil by actual moral standards. Aura, for example, was never just killing to eat and survive. She was deliberately desecrating bodies and practicing necromancy. But she should be redeemed, right ??
>theories on Magic
Yes. And?
>self control
Yes. And?
All of your points still do not resemble any kind of a reason they should be treated differently than they are. Their bodies turn to black smoke or whatever when theyre killed. That is enough of a classification to put them as separate. All other human and similar races have bodies that last after death. Scientifically speaking, demons are not anywhere in the same range on a biological level. All of that extra fluff youre talking about is just that. Fluff. Meaningless. Wordsalad that amounts to being a demon apologist. You would be the exact type of person that willingly goes with a serial killer to help him fix his fridge or whatever
Demons would kill you without a second thought while you are here pondering about why theyre badly written
Youre also really really gay
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>>285508181
>like some stupid culture war.
That explains your hallucinating themes that don't exist in the show, you're on some kind of political jihad against what you perceive as a right wing audience because the series has clear morality and that frightens and offends you. So you want to convince those you perceive as political enemies that the story is secretly some kind of moral relativism, lived experience bullshit so they won't like it anymore. But that doesn't exist and no amount of insisting that we prove a negative is going to work. Go back to /pol/, or more likely reddit. We literally don't care. The demons aren't even important in this show.
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>>285508255
Very true
Let demons into your home
You can learn much from them
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>>285508253
Death from exhaustion doesn't sound too bad.
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>>285508319
Every Friday morning.
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>>285508270
Don't worry, Anon, you're just gay. Nothing wrong with that.
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>>285508385
Part of the entire problem with the series' characterization of demons is that being a sociopath (which demons essentially are) doesn't necessarily make someone murderously evil. Just because demons don't experience love or empathy themselves doesn't mean they're incapable of observing that humans dislike it when you kill people, or realizing that murder will turn humans against them, or even deciding for themselves that murder is wrong on an intellectual level even if they have no gut aversion to it.

The series tells us that demons are just monsters and animals, but animals (and other monsters) don't behave like that. It says that demons lack empathy, but their characterization is more like demons have the Evil Gene and are cursed by an evil deity such that their reasoning and understanding of the world inevitably misleads them into evil, even when they are trying to avoid it, and even when it's completely self-destructive and self-defeating for their goals.

Animals are not like demons. Wild beasts are not intelligent and able to communicate with other species. Wild beasts do not understand human morality or strictly adhere to their own. Wild beasts do not possess all the components necessary to adopt human morals. Demons do. They are incomparable to animals.
They should have no problem changing their beliefs to coexist with people.
>>285508394
Anon, the entirety of twitter is filled with political right wing culture warriors championing this show to use against leftists, same way that people did with Starship Troopers.

The demons are the only fucking thing actually discussed in detail about this show, because they're one of the only semi interesting things about it.
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>>285508351
her gluttony disturbs me
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>>285508382
Kino
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>>285507998
Last thing a demon sees after doing demon shit.
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>>285508271
of course anon
>>285508181
anon you're owning them. they literally write you
>Subjective morality doesn't exist.
without a hint of embarrassment
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>>285508181
Most people don't respond to you because so much of what you say is wrong and retarded. It's one thing to argue a single point with somebody who is intelligent, but it would be useless and prohibitively time wasting for most people to engage with you at anything beyond surface level.
>stark said anything is possible, therefore demons must be able to coexist or we have a contradiction
>Frieren, the apprentice of Flamme and companion of Himmel, who constantly praises the ingenuity of humanity, thinks humans are inferior
>demons could choose to be good because they have intelligence, so even though they never do we have to act like they will at any moment
In this sense, you are very much like a demon from this story. The supreme effort it would take to fix your nature is not worth the miniscule chance that it would work, you just need to be purged and everything will improve for humanity. The effort I'm exerting now is only not wasted because it might be beneficial to an observer, there is no hope to fix you.
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>>285508265
Demons in this series are more like classical demons, rather than new age "Well everyone can be a good person if they try" demons. They're beasts, almost animals, literal monsters, they just mimic humans in order to prey on them, but they lack any greater emotions. They know what words to say in order to prey on humans, they know how to sound to get them to drop their guard, but its nothing more than any other predator prey relationship in nature. Just like how a venus flytrap will look like a normal flower to get bees or flies to land on it, you need to look normal enough for the prey to get close to start stabbing them.

Which is the entire irony with all the discourse around demons in this series; its literally all surface level, they tell you its surface level, the demons themselves tell you its surface level, and still people try to argue every time "Well maybe demons are just like humans, we simply haven't tried peace hard enough" only for it to result in demons eating humans once again every time. The demons only know how to mimic humans on the surface, they will never have deeper emotions because they aren't actually human, they just are very adept at looking humans in order to trick them and try to eat them. They are nothing more than beasts that appear human.
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>>285508431
>Anon, the entirety of twitter is filled with political
Don't care. That's not a reason to bring your political jihad to /a/. Nobody here but you is talking about demons, they're all talking about Fern and whether she's fat or not, and Frieren's ass. Clearly you're in the wrong place.
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>>285508431
You are right
They are not animals
They are monsters. Literal, actual monsters. We dont know the origin of monsters, but we know that they are, monsters. You think that intelligence and having some level of understanding is enough to elevate them above that. It's not. They would kill you and eat you and you wouldn't understanding why it's happening despite everyone telling you over and over again. Monsters are monsters. I'm sorry that you see yourself in them, but that's what it is man
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>>285508473
Lol
Faggot
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>>285508483
They can't fix their nature, that's the entire point of that one demon. He kept going from village to village killing everyone in the hopes he would one day develop human feelings and regret his choices, but he never did. So he simply kept repeating it in the hopes he eventually would. There's nothing to fix, they will never develop empathy, they aren't built wrong, they simply aren't human to begin with. They have a small ability to envy humans because its in their nature to perfect their mimicry of humans, but its only surface level because they don't actually feel any real empathy, they simply desire to look more human so they can better act human to fool humans better.
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>>285504876
>S-Sasuga, Madohausu-sama
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>>285508431
>They should have no problem changing their beliefs to coexist with people.
Why don't you just change your beliefs to coexist with everyone else in this thread, if it's so easy anon.
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>>285508494
They won't get it no matter how articulately you explain it. They are incapable of seeing past the surface level trickery.
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Are there angels in this series?
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>>285508605
Fern is right there
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Fern isn't fat, I'm starting to think you guys are just a bunch of feeders in denial
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>>285508622
I'm not in denial
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>>285507459
>>285505264
warning: you WILL be visited by yakuza lawyers if they can cross the pond
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GOOSE ALERT
There were some geeses in the first episode. But now they're coming closer. They're gaining.
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>>285508359
wow 50 whole years? that's a long time for a demon, right?
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>>285506888
Yes.

t. wizard impervious to carnal magic
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>>285508732
Yotsuba!
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>>285508432
why would she disturb anyone with her meatiness? Are you a pansy weeb?
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>>285508732
They're goosing.
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>>285508758
out of character bullshit. Fern is not a slutty gyaru
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Every single Frieren thread devolves into "Well maybe we should give demons another chance, there's no such thing as an evil race after all, all races are equal and perfect, I'm sure we just didn't try hard enough the first time, they can talk which means they can eventually understand us and change, they will one day develop human empathy and change, demons are just as good as humans deep down" even though the story has gone out of the way a dozen times showing why this is wrong.
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>>285508788
I wish this was how it worked irl.
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Still love the silly little simplified faces they put on background Frieren.
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>>285507919
>2009 was 743 years ago
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>>285508300
with semen
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Every single Frieren thread devolves into "Fern isn't fat she just has massive boobs and eats all the time" even though the story has gone out of the way a dozen times showing why this is wrong.
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>>285508483
Anon, do you realize that you're responding to a doylist question with a watsonian answer? You're arguing against an out of universe meta critique of the show, with an in-universe explanation about how the demons work. That does nothing to answer my criticism.
>Says nothing is impossible
>Yet also says that coexisting with demons is impossible
This is a massive contradiction in the stories themes that only appears when the story involves demons. There's already so many in-universe things about the demons that are contradictory, that's insane more people don't pick up on them. Media discussion has really gone down the shitter in the last few years.
>>285508494
Except that's clearly not true? Frieren demons are portrayed as free willed sapient individuals with senses of self and variance in personality. They aren't just beast mimicking humans. They act, talk and think like people even when nobody is around, and regularly show emotions when it would make no sense for them to just be faking it.
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>>285508810
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Every single Frieren thread devolves into "elf feet SEXOOO peroperoperopero" even though licking feet is not hygienic.
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>>285508856
>Fern isn't fat she just has massive boobs and eats all the time
>this is wrong
Which part? Not being fat or having massive boobs?
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fern's feet would be fat and gross
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>>285504876
is that gold ship??
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Did the Hero of the South also have a party or did he solo everything?
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>>285508977
fern's feet would be wide and meaty and have a light musk to them
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Fern is fat.
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>>285508970
is this safe for work
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>>285508865
They are beasts mimicking humans, having a personality doesn't contradict that. Some do it for sport, some for curiosity, and some for fetish but at the end of the day they are just beasts designed to prey on human weakness of superficiality. As long as it looks humans and talks humans assume it can be reasoned with, which is exactly how demons take advantage of humans and eat them. Humans are unable to understand situational camaflogue or having a predator, so they can't comprehend this thing only camaglogues itself as a human in order to prey on you. They are intelligent beasts but at the end of the day they're nothing but beasts meant to prey on humans, no they aren't "basically human" no they aren't "just as intelligent as human so they can clearly be reasoned with", they will always just be beasts that appear human. Every time humans try to hamnify demons in the series it ends the same way, with demons eating all the humans because ultimately they just blend in long enough to start eating people. They're patient beasts so they can wait awhile before they start to do it, but it always ends the same. They're nothing but natural predators; you see the same relationship all throughout nature. The lion will never understand the small dog even if it can blend in with them for awhile. One day it will simply eat it, whether out of necessity or curiosity, its just their nature.
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>>285508756
She only has two bunches
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>>285504879
I don't like demeans buuuuut...
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>>285508996
Solo artist
He was the strongest
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>>285508804
The thing you have to understand about demon apologists is that they dont watch the show to see what it presents, what it tells you, or what the characters are saying about the topic. The work backwards because they begin from the point of, "demons can be le good"
All of their thinking originates from this point and all of their viewing and taking in of information is colored by their thesis from the start. So when the show actively presents evidence that does not support their thesis, they ignore it, cope by creating various amounts of headcanon, or just say the show is badly written because it doesn't align with their own retarded ideas. Note how they always talk about the human-looking demons, too. They talk about aura crying when she's about to anhero, or whatever. None of them ever try to defent quall or any of the demons that look more unhuman. This is because they are fooled from the start
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>>285507650
I have never seen a Korean girl as fat as Fern.
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>>285508865
Wait until you realize that animals can have personalities
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Fern fat.

Get it?
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I can fix her
She won't eat me
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Himmel died a virgin lol.
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>>285505424
SHE DID THE THING!!
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fern's fat belly
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>>285509107
so will Frieren, what's your point?
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>>285508732
Is this the Gosling moment?
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Why is Fern such a size queen?
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Imagine how soft fern is to touch
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>>285508300
McDonald’s. Lots of McDonald’s. And cum.
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>>285509153
Not if I have anything to say about that.
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>>285509155
She's a growing girl.
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I just took a diarrhea dump, or as I like to call it, dropped a demon
Demons belong in the toilet
Demons belong in the trash
If you defend demons
Frieren will beat your ass
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>>285509026
Anon, there's several scenes of demons laughing and gloating about their victory while they think they've got humans on the ropes during a fight. That's not beneficial for their survival in any way. Demons regularly call Frieren a bitch or get mad at her when she kills them. One demon during the El Dorado arc I believe, does a yandere smile because they love fighting so much.

If demons are intelligent, then they can't really be just considered "wild beasts". Wild beasts don't have a sense of self or morality in the same way that demons do. If a bear suddenly became as intelligent as a human, we wouldn't treat it the same way as we do actual bears because now the bear is a moral agent that could be communicated with and even convinced not to kill people.

Demons don't have to kill people out of necessity. It's flat-out stated that they don't need to kill humans to survive, and Frieren calls this bullshit when a demon tries saying that's why they killed someone.
>>285509056
No, they're just critically thinking about what the fuck the series is showing us. Also, you bring up another weird scene. Why the fuck is Aura crying as she's getting killed? That can't be just mimicry because she already knows Frieren won't believe her and there's nobody around to help her. She's whimpering and crying as she dies. She has emotions.
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>>285509097
>tfw its probably gonna be a few years until the Golden Land arc
she's gonna get so much fanart
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>>285509188
January 2027 most likely
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>>285509188
What if you ask her to murder you? Does she fuck you instead?
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>>285509155
>this wont be enough to feed fern again
>she's going to supplement dinner with my semen again
>I can't handle another blowjob from her. It's too intense. It's like she's sucking my nuts out through my shaft. Like a pea stuck in a straw
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Why are you guys even responding to the demon simp schizo? He will just continue to look up at the sky and claim its red for as long as you entertain it
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>>285509155
All women are
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Is the copper in Frieren's world blue instead of brown?
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>>285509182
>she has emotions
Yes. And?
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>>285509234
Why would you think that?
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>>285509022
If there of age, it might be. What Methode is doing though...
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>>285504841
I wish that was me..
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>>285509234
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>>285509241
So she isn't just "faking it to prey humans". She has emotions and a personality of her own.
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>>285509107
we already have time travel, so the series will end with Frieren time traveling to the past to be with Himmel
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>>285509217
>white cishet strait man problems
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>>285509234
Anon copper rusts into that color over time
Technically it's oxidizing as rust is specifically for iron. Copper in irl life turns that color given long enough exposure to air
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>>285509203
she'd probably kill you still
it's been a while since i read the arc but i think her deal was being extremely curious about humans but in less in the "is it possible to intergrate with them"-sense (like Macht) and more of a "wow i wanna dissect all these fascinating creatures"-sense.
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>>285509252
Yes. And?
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>>285506600
{mini-boss music start playing}
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>>285509245
>>285509249
>>285509271
Why are the statues blue after they clean them? I know copper rusts into that greenish blue but if you polish it it turns back to it's original color.
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>>285509283
I really wonder how the "demons dindu nuffin" crowd is gonna cope with Macht and Solitär
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>>285509297
So she can't just be treated as a mindless monster that's only focused on killing people. If she's sentient, intelligent and morally capable, she can't be pure evil because she has the ability to choose not to be.
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>>285509279
Would be really cool to see this with the live action puppets beneath both as well
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>>285508350
Hal go away
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Wait why does Frieren even need to go to Areola? She already got her chance to talk to Himmel during the Goddess Monument arc
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>>285504879
And they say Frieren has no fanservice
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>>285509339
cause its about the journey, not the destination!
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>>285509306
she removed the, uh, dirt from the oxide and called it a day
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>>285509325
>>285508382
heh
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>>285507970
its happened for the best of us anon..
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>>285509035
Futaba!
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>>285509358
The urge to stick a finger in my bum and then hold it in front of her nose to see if she'll react...
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>Obscured the 7 sages even though we got designs for almost all of them
Come the fuck on, I wanted an early look at Macht and Grausam.
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how fat can fern get?
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>>285508063
holy shit that's amazing
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>>285508903
perfect
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>>285509354
I can't believe Frieren's been scamming all these villages.
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>>285508063
They should have just used the real puppets in the anime then
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>>285509431
go away taiwan man
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I get that you can't peacefully coexist with demons because they'll always will try to fuck you over and eat you, but has anyone tried demon slavery?
They may lack empathy but have enough of a self-preservation instinct to obey demons that are stronger than them. Surely it would be okay as long as you never treat them as equals or lower your guard around them, and it's more ethical than TDD.
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>>285509309
She's not a mindless monster and she's an intelligent monster. You are saying she is morally capable and can chose to be good. Okay? When? When is she going to choose to be good? After the next kill? After the next ten? Hundred? Why didn't she choose to be good at any time before frieren showed up to kill her? Why didn't she redeem herself at any point during her genocide against humans? Why are you giving so much room to breathe for this creature? Nothing you have presented ever has given any logical reason to suffer the demons to live
Fine
Let's treat them all like humans though
How do you treat someone who has decapitated and necromanced hundreds to thousands of people over several hundred years? I guess we let them live so they can redeem themselves
Fucking retard
For all of your grandstanding and stupidity, it all comes to the same conclusion. If demons were treated like everyone else in the world who was sentient and emotional and morally capable, they would still be eradicated by the rest because of their actions. They are literally being judged for the content of their characters in real time and you are upset by this
Idiot
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What was Himmels tax policy?
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>>285509466
A wizard did it.
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>>285508287
you know when the animation is too good when they add something that don't need to add as extra frams
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>>285509484
Against federal taxation.
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>>285509466
How does magic exist? It's fantasy.
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>>285509466
The food was isekai'd into the Frieren universe specifically to make Fern gain weight
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>>285509463
The average demon is stronger than the average person
Who is going to be the slave driver?
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>>285509466
it's a stupid setting, that's how.
leave an updoot and click that bell if i helped.
>>285509463
of course it would be okay, it's just pretty fucking difficult. rewatch how quick fern vs the blood guy cast their spells without movement cues
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>>285509466
>medieval
medieval when? early, late? Frieren herself wears a 20th century outfit
fantasy is always anachronistic
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>>285509518
What if we get them hooked on drugs?
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how does an anime about magic make warriors look so god damned fucking cool
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>>285509466
They do is specifically to make you upset
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>>285509466
It's called fantasy for a reason.
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>>285504841
Do not!
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>>285509564
Yum.
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>>285509547
Sir, this is a himmel the hero anime.
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>>285508951
THAT MY PEOPLE LET'S GOOOOOOOO
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>>285509476
>Spouts off a bunch of irrelevant questions to dodge the main point.
Anon, if they're sentient, intelligent and morally capable and are able to choose to do good, then they can't all be considered pure evil if they have the choice. The entire race can't be treated as pure evil. Same way that humans can't all be considered pure evil because some humans do bad actions. Do you not see this? Or do I have to keep reiterating this same point over and over? I'm finding I have to do that more and more often with Frieren fans.
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>>285509226
>he he so smol
>tries the backdoor
>REEEE YAMETE IT'S TOO BIG
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>>285509372
The most modern food item would be the orange carrot.
Forks are relatively modern as people in the middle ages were superstitious about putting the devil's ptchfork into their mouths. Otherwise the tableware is only moderately modern, of course porcelain was extremely expensive and imported from the far east until one guy cracked the code (and lost his kingdom in the process). Expensive and exotic to the point it's called "china" in English.
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>>285509553
>>285509508
Having magic doesn't automatically give you the knowledge on how to make food that's like 500 years beyond your time period.
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It's amazing that storytelling has gone full circle to the point that "demons bad" is considered a point of contention
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>>285509628
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>>285509628
I NEED Frieren.
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>>285509601
oh they are evil alright. for humans. not only are they inclined to eat them, they also choose to despite the technical ability to abstain.
pure evil, like any raised meat animal would think of humans if only they knew
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>>285509524
Some demons are weaklings, catch those and kill the ones that are too much of a hassle.
>>285509537
Sounds good on paper, but a drug that works on them might be hard to find. Also, it would be hard to tell if they're actually addicted or if they're just faking it.
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does the show ever go into what actually is required of an individual to become skilled in magic? can you be both a warrior and a mage?
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>>285509625
Most people think that everybody ate gruel until McDonalds was born.
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>>285509658
Himmel pls.
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>>285509628
>drops the shitty twintails and just lets her hair down
>10 times more beautiful
Why is it like this?
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>>285509674
No your class is locked after character creation
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>>285509674
no it's about the JOURNEY and Fern's thighs
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they should make armor, weapons, and ammunition out of the magic nullifying crystals
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>>285509737
>>285509726
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>>285508970
Um, excuse me, but that image is clearly wrong and it makes no sense that those characters would all be there. Dünste is clearly not employed as a bartender, but is in fact a mage.
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>>285509768
>but steel is heavier than feathers
it's ok anon
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>>285509737
It's so tough that not even Stark could break a chunk of it off, and it nullifies magic, so how are you going to harvest it, let alone cut it into useful shapes?
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>>285509737
it's the hardest material, crystals are brittle, you can just wear an amulet made from such crystal and no demon would be a threat to you
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>>285509601
>refuses to answer relevant questions
>calls them irrelevant
>continues to make the same points that have been thoroughly pointed out to be meaningless
How many times do you need to be told that them having a "choice" doesn't matter. They constantly "choose" to do evil even when it wouldn't benefit them at all. Infact they choose it so often that it's debatable if it's even a choice at all. It's in their nature to be sadistic and malevolent. You refuse this outright. You say that they can choose to be good. No evidence. You just believe it because you want to believe it.
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>>285509466
dough, butter, milk, eggs, flour, jam and sugar have been available in anime Europe since Antiquity. Phoenicians were already eating an archaic pudding desert. The fancy fruit and the chocolate are the only things out of place in that picture
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>>285509785
>>285509790
literally all you'd have to do is bash a crystal into a crystal with another crystal and it'll break dumbass
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>>285509785
Use that small piece of crystal to cut the other crystals, it should be hard enough
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>>285509737
Okay bro
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>>285509790
>you can just wear an amulet made from such crystal and no demon would be a threat to you
Does it disrupt the magic or just the person casting's mana?
Even if it is the former, say they throw a giant rock (using magic) at you wearing the crystal, you are still fucked.
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>>285509827
>>285509805
Frieren said it's basically indestructible. If Stark couldn't even crack it I don't think anybody is strong enough to.
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>>285509790
>i am wearing a anti-magic crystal *smug face* your magic has now power over me, quall
>*quall pick you up and crushes your skelleton with his hands*
>AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE
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its my opinion that ferns hair isnt actually purple, it's merely stylistically purple, but actually black or ravenheaded.
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>>285509858
Fern said she could not even feel mana while in the cave. She was basically a normal person.
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>>285509851
「PATCH UP」 with raniya
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>>285509871
It is purple. Fern is half-demon.
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Which main characters do you see dying in the future?
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>>285509800
If they have the choice at all, it means that they can't be pure evil, even if they mostly choose to do evil. The only thing that the series says is it's
>In their nature
Even though human beings and other races can clearly overcome their nature. Such as Frieren herself overcoming her own nature as an elf to be more empathetic and emotional. Why can't demons do the same? What's stopping them from adopting a different moral code that closely aligns with humans?
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>>285509894
frieren
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>>285509858
It presumably absorbs a casted spell
This means you can use magic to throw a big rock at the wearer and as long as the rock is in motion before it enters the radius the momentum will crush them. Bear in mind that the wearer would not he able to countercast to defend
I guess it might work for a warrior or something idk
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>>285509894
definitely not Serie
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>>285509894
Stark.
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>>285509626
>beyond your time period
What time period? Frieren isn't on Europe, isn't even on Earth. It's a made up universe so whatever the author wants can exists.
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>>285509670
They literally don't even have to eat people to survive.
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>>285509626
Sure it does, it's magic. Also the history of their world is different from ours, maybe they accessed the "fancy parfait with flan, whipped cream and wafers" technology before ours.
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>>285509306
The first time we saw her clean a statue with her magic spell, she did turn it brown. Then some pendant yelled at her because the oxidation layer actually protects the statue from further degradation, so now she just removes the dirt.
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>>285509895
When they adopt that moral code we can talk about treating them as equals
Until them, kill and be killed
Simple as
Dont know why this is so difficult for you to understand
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>>285509466
None of that is modern food, anon. Tarts have existed for thousands of years.
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>>285509916
The obvious utility would be to have warriors wear the pendants, a mage who can't cast spells is useless. A warrior who renders every mage within a few meters of himself unable to use magic is pretty lethal. Especially if they catch the mage by surprise, then there's really nothing the mage can do once they're in the nullification field.
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>>285509867
yeah i missed how the dragon picked stark up and crushed him
nigga you seen fighters can split mountains?
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>>285507460
My biggest gripe would be that the cutlery is boring, no frills or exciting shapes to flaunt the owner's wealth. It's as if the animators looked at what IKEA gave them with the plate of meatballs instead of asking Thomas Romain for advice.
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>>285509930
They do it because they think it's funny>>285509958
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>>285509955
Don't call her that!
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>>285509967
A-anon?
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>>285509930
But can they get swole without doing it? In a society obsessed with strength like theirs you don't want to be a dyel.
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>>285509928
>>285509934
>>285509955
There's something called "suspension of disbelief." There's no reason to suddenly have modern day foods appear in a setting that's clearly medieval. Especially given that the needs to make and serve such food isn't even in existence yet.
>>285509947
Then why does Frieren kill them indiscriminately even when they have the choice not to be evil?
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>>285509958
We're talking about mages here
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>>285509978
tart is bong slang for slut
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>>285509466
>fantasy
There's your answer

This isn't medieval Germany, its fantasy
Its a fantastical fantasy version of Germany with various non-historical elements
Yes the story is based on Germanic history, which is what sets it apart from a lot of fantasy stories these days which are more based on British fantasy
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What do you make of the top five Frieren girls that I would shag.
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>>285509999
We're not. A mage would have to be braindead to wear the thing that makes him completely useless.
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>>285510041
Solid list.
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>>285509895
>Why can't demons do the same? What's stopping them from adopting a different moral code that closely aligns with humans?
Their evil souls
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what the fuck is that thing
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>>285510041
I will have sex with Ubel in your place.
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>>285510041
honestly I only want to fuck Frieren
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>>285509996
>the needs to make and serve such food isn't even in existence yet
What do you mean? Their world clearly has moody teenagers with money to pay for it.
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>>285509894
I don't think anyone will die. It's not that sort of show. It's like the Discworld where if you survive your first book you're basically immortal.
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>>285510041
>Frieren
>Fern
>Flamme
>Ubel
>Wirbel
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Germans
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>>285509967
lol
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>>285509996
She kills them because she's based
Because she wants to
She kills them because it's better to kill them than to let them live, LITERALLY every single time. Again, if you're going to treat them as humans, elves, dwarves, etc. Then they are already all getting exactly what they deserve.
We don't have an issue here and we're not actually disagreeing, because the end result is the same. Every demon will die. Be it because of frieren's actions or their own. Total demon death is the only outcome at the end of the day
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>>285510093
Anon, there's no ice cream machines in medieval times.
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>>285510082
A horse fucked a zebra. That happens sometimes.
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>>285510012
bugger this cunt's explained the joke
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any crpg for this feel? only nwn2 or dao comes to mind
inb4 bald gay 3
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>>285510111
Frieren...
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>>285510143
What about in notchina?
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>>285510143
Just buy some ice for them magic ice man and make your ice cream the old fashioned way then.
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>>285510147
the image looks magically produced
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>>285510082
It's called an elf
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>>285504841
Another Christian reference. Very based.
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Sousou no Karen
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>>285510147
huh, I never considered the existence of zebra-horse hybrids
odd directorial choice, that might be the first time one of those gets represented in anime
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>>285504879
>Stark kicked her on the womb
He should've stabbed her woman instead, with his penis via her vagina.
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>>285504841
NO STEP ON SNEK
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>>285507650
Give them Twitter accounts and they'll be whoring themselves.
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>>285509930
maybe ningens are tasty? thought about that, lib?
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>>285510296
>this is what the average contrarian retard looks like
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>>285509996
it's actually called verisimilitude. Every single ingredient in that image existed by the 16th century at the absolute latest, and hypothetical much earlier in non-Old World cultures. Frosting is arguably the most recent culinary invention pictured here.

Kiwifruits are from 13th century China.
Oranges existed in 10th century China.
Wafers existed in 10th century Europe

Strawberries existed during the Roman era.
Honeydew existed during the Egyptian era.

Pancakes are extremely simple, and could have existed in our earliest pre-civilizations.
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>>285510192
Everything does these days. Look at this donkey.
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>>285510041
why is frieren on your list?
why isn't sense?
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>>285510296
I look like this.
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>>285510296
>women find that sexually attractive
i just don't want to know
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>>285506159
Damn I wish I was Stark. I'd be painting Fern's purple bush white with my cum.
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Modern type food is not unbelievable in the setting specifically because they have magic. Most of which is silly, near pointless, or just used for convinence. The vast majority of spells in the world are folk spells that scratch an itch on your back you cant reach or create flowers. Infact, many of the spells that frieren finds are specifically food-based. Such as turning grapes sour, turning a red apple green, or creating the thousand folded shaved ice desert from glorious nihhoneese land of the rising sun. And again, most of these spells were not made by "mages" at the top of the magic academies. They were made by housewives or bored farmers or kids trying to create toys for themselves to play with. It's absolutely believable that chefs specifically would create magic that makes specialized ingredients that can be used for complex meals and deserts
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>>285510326
None of those things looked back then like they look right now though.
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>>285509894
Eisen
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>>285510329
do other donkeys bully him for being different?
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>>285510296
He cute
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>>285510368
Having magic wouldn't give you the knowledge on how to make these foods in the first place.
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>>285510382
No one in real life has natural purple or green hair either
Guess you can suspend your disbelief selectively, huh?
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>>285510326
the problem is to have all that stuff in one place you need modern bulk carriers
unless of course they have teleportation magic
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>>285507996
I don't why she was congratulating them here after being easily tricked by an obvious demon into dropping their guard.
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>>285510396
And?
Who the fuck do you think created these foods in real life to begin with anon?
Someone made them. Someone was the first person to make a profiterole on earth. Why is it difficult for you to think that someone would similarly be the first in frieren's world?
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>>285509339
Fern wants to see Heiter. Stark wants a fun and ridiculous journey to tell Eisen about. Frieren wants to find out if Flamme was full of shit.
>>285509466
You already got a gorillion comments but the fact is people fucking loved food in medieval times and had all kinds of crazy recipes. They didn't have access to ingredients from all over the world, but they did have lots of ingredients, and nothing you've seen has been particularly unusual. Obviously a fantasy setting would have a different mix of local plants and animals than our world did in such times. Plus magic could make getting some ingredients preserved and transported more easy. I mean they have spells that turn apples into other kinds of apples, and grapes into sour grapes. Clearly these folk magic people were making the most of their local flora and fauna and experimenting a lot in the kitchen.
>>285509800
You're talking to a blank slate moral relativist, who is against the death penalty or punishing criminals at all, really, because he thinks bad behavior is always just somebody else's fault because of systematic oppression or whatever. If only they had been raised in a different environment and given a social safety net!
>>285510143
There's spells that make ice out of thin air. And it's folk magic, goes back thousands of years. Sooner or later somebody decided to add milk fat to it.
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Who is that?
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You know I love these episodes with the flashbacks. I genuinely enjoyed the Hero of the South segment. The message he had Frieren relay to Himmel Made me tear up a bit. He was a cool dude.
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>>285504879
full of human flesh
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>>285510457
looks like...zanzibart
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>>285510438
To be fair, fern in particular has a blind spot for priests because of her upbringing
And stark is kinda retarded
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>>285510446
What are you talking about? Recipes automatically unlock when you reach the "Age of Revolutions" period.
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>>285510457
Frieren
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>>285508903
ahhh.... eto...
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>>285510487
Hot
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>>285510505
DON'T use the menu to cook
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>>285507680
>no reason is given as to why they can't
Their instincts are irresistible, plain and simple.
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I just want my own Fern to cook for and feed
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>>285510487
Yeah, mine
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You gave me HOLY BRAVE
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>>285510041
>No Flamme.
>No Laufen.
>No Länge.
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>>285510563
Humans still have plenty of instincts that we are able to suppress and live amongst each other.
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>>285505508
She’s a fatso in spirit
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Funniest shit I've ever seen.
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>>285510618
The demon instinct to eat humans is simply stronger than any instinct that humans have.
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>>285510147
They actually exist?
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>>285510575
One would think that in these days of ubiquitous internet and chat gpt japs would be able to write lyrics in English that aren't complete gibberish.
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>>285510192
>>285510670
They're called zebroids.
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>>285510041
Nrleat would shag them to. Bonus points if they have a shotafication potion.
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>>285509466
Anon those foods have existed in one form or another for hundreds of years.
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>>285509205
I need to bury my cock in her ass!
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>>285510702
Zebroid is the generic term, the specific name for a horse zebra hybrid is zorse.
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>>285509217
Don't worry Stark, I can tag in for you.
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>>285508758
I hope this version of Fern is like one of those chicks that dances in skimpy clothes/naked on tiktok.
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>>285510764
I was gonna jokingly ask if a zebra donkey offspring would be called a zonkey, but I looked it up instead and it made my day.
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>>285508063
That's pretty cool
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>>285510764
Sounds cool
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>Anon points out bad writing
>Tons of posts going "Nuh uh!" and ignoring it
>Few posts later the cycle repeats
The 15 second Frieren fan theory.
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>>285510756
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>anon says something is bad writing and refuses to hear otherwise
>is called a retard by everyone else who is not retarded
>he resorts to pretending to be someone else in an non-reply post quoting no one
The retard theory
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>>285508300
I give her the four D's: Dick, Domino's, Dessert, and Dick.
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Hero of the south!
He is here to slay the demon king and his 7 servants
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>>285510948
They never found the body
legend says he still fights demons to this day
demons are very apathetic and very deceptive
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>>285508622
Fern isn't fat *enough*
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The sourthern hero scarificed himself to clear the way for the future hero
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okay but what's the REAL reason why Himmel didn't court frieren harder or didn't settle for one of the thousands of pussies in the empire that'd be willing to create a hero's offspring
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They will ALL be back and you know it. If a series does time travel bullshit once it will happen again.
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>>285511048
Not really, but I think we will see HotS vs Seven Sages and Hero's Party vs Demon King eventually in flashbacks.
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>>285510980
>>285511028
They are the same person. It's part of the demon's master plan.
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>>285509401
I'd carry her back only as long as I get to lay my head on her tummy and listen to it digest all night.
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>>285510618
And demons aren't humans. Get it yet?
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>>285511038
He met Old Man Voll, who was stuck because of his dead wife for hundreds of years and he didn't want to do that to Frieren who'd be living even longer.
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>>285511048
Aura's too popular and has too many simps not to be brought back in some contrived way
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Requesting gif/webm of Frieren sniffing the apple where her nose wiggles
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>>285511098
Neither are elves.
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>>285511028
>>285510980
>>285510948
nice thunderbolt fantasy reference, best-china!
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>>285511186
>china
hero of the south is clearly european.
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>>285511048
>time travel bullshit
I’m an animeonly when does this happen
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>>285511028
The puppet show was a nice little touch. Very "of the time". Demon posters on suicide watch with this anime.
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>>285511152
In Japanese fantasy, elves are just another form of human, along with dwarves. You make it so easy showing you're a tourist from Twitter or reddit and just want to make everything political instead of just taking the story as it is.
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>>285511152
And elves aren't demons. Trying to use one species' abilities to say the other ought to be able to is pointless. Demons are monsters. Monsters kill people cause that's what monsters do. Even the smarter ones still do it.
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>>285504879
another generation, corrupted...
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>>285511308
oh, why are they monsters?
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>>285511244
I swear I’m not a schizo who makes everything political but I also thought HOTS looked like Hitler with the color/cut of his clothes and slicked hair
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>>285511303
disgusting
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>>285511350
They eat people
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How did the demon who can see the future not forsee the guy who could see the future coming to kick his butt
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>>285511387
Alive? Raw or cooked?
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>>285507680
The demons are ontologically evil and want to eat humans
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>>285511350
They are made out of magic and kill people, thus classify as monsters. If they were not made of magic they would just be animals or considered an evil race.
Frieren literally explains the monster classification in season 1
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>>285511425
He did, they both knew they would die fighting each. There will be a bit about it next season
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>>285510618
Humans fail to resist their evil tendencies some times
Demons fail every single time
This makes living with them impossible
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>>285511303
Who even does this lmao dumb elf
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>>285511453
How much is this season covering? It won't reach the Macht arc? I suppose that explains why Denken isn't in the OP (unless he is, and I'm just blind).
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>>285504879
I thought this was a children's show.
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>>285511482
Except for when Macht didn't kill anyone for fifty years.
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Is it just me, or is this season much more hornier?
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>>285511387
They only do that because they've been discriminated against by the systematic oppressors who've committed myriad sins in their long history. How do we know humans even are from this continent? They probably are colonizers stealing demon lands and not paying their fair share in taxes and also climate change. Oppressors (humans, elves, dwarves) are forever irredeemably evil and can never be forgiven, but a demon can eat as many humans as they want and never be at fault, because they are victims of the illegitimate human culture.
t. demontard
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>>285507966
It released in 2011. Only uncs and aunts listened to it when it came out
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>>285510296
This is what I look while eating my snacks watching a new frieren episode
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I demand elfussy
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>>285511500
>>285511510
How could you mistake it for a children's show, even in season one they had Ubel, Laufen, and especially Kanne (a literal child) walking around dressed like that.
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>>285510111
I wonder, how does germany translate the anime? Do they keep the names the same so there is a guy literally named liar lying?
Does Frieren think "strong and distant have truly been distant lately..."?
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>>285511361
>destroying those villages was crucial for my survival
what did the sword demon mean by this?
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>>285511447
that's how discussing the setting is below criticism. enemies just poof away when they die.
worthless game logic
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>>285511553
Oh and Serie, how did I forget Serie
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>>285511596
She was lying. They lie.
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>>285511600
>that's how discussing the setting is below criticism
How so? Distinguishing beings made of magic and beings created trough natural evolution and biology seems pretty important to me, if the world was magical you can bet your ass we would also classify species with this logic.
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>>285504879
Breed demons.
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>>285510457
He's the one from El Dorado. The manga explicitly shows us that the two of them met and fought one another hundreds (or a thousand) of years ago
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>>285508270
I think it's alright
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>>285511262
After the Dorado arc and one or two other short ones I believe. Its the one that introduces the plot point where the demons are plotting something huge and have been for decades/hundreds of years now
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>>285504090
>thought Winter Storm Fern is some meme going around because of S2
>Weather Channel actually named the incoming monster storm Fern
Coincidence or is one of them a stealth weeb

>>285511524
There's someone somewhere making a video essay who unironically submits this as their argument
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>>285511635
lazy slop at writing level discussion, weird but tuesday like any other at in universe discussion
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>>285511447
But yet it also says that they evolved to be this way? So are they magic or not?
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>>285511619
"On the Demons and their Lies." - By Martin Frieren, based individual and imperial Noticer.
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>>285508270
It's an ok song in isolation but just doesn't fit the show. I thought the same about YOASOBI's song in S1. I can acknowledge that the singer is good but don't like his "see how high I can go" falsetto that is reminiscent of Sam Smith
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>>285511750
I haven't read the manga but I assume the true nature of demons will be eventually revealed
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>>285511151
here
>>285506547
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>>285508270
It's growing on me. I liked the season 1 songs better. New ED is pretty good though, I'm just not a fan of the art for it.
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>>285511750
>>285511798
In the manga, Frieran states that the Demons were originally amorphous trickster shadow monsters/beasts that preyed upon humans and evolved to mimic the speech and appearances of humans in order to trick and feast on them after the humans began to attack them on sight/not fall for their original ruses.
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>milet loves Frieren so much she made 7 songs for it without being asked and before they formally requested her to do the ED again
They better stick with her for the entire adaptation. I'm glad she got to visit Czecho for the video
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>>285511903
Yeah, she's as important to the series now as Evan Call is.
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>>285510041
>doesn't include her
meh
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most of you just discuss OP ED,
meanwhile there are these, mogging all of them.
https://litter.catbox.moe/2l97m9guzami7p6z.flac
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>>285510111
I'm frieren
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>>285510082
>>285510223
I thought it was meant to be a quagga, an extinct animal (which fits the ED's theme of passage of time etc)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quagga
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>>285511966
I'm Lugner, honest!
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>>285511952
I bet she'd just lie there, but her hair tentacles would wrap around you while you did her.
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>>285511526
>It released in 2011
But that song is from 1980?
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>>285511994
it's ok as long as the tentacles tense up during orgasm, and there's gap moe
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>>285511952
How long are her pubes?
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>>285511048
Just look at that tiny demon cunny in the back...
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>>285511994
God that's hot.
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Reminder that all of this was just a part of demon master plan.
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So what exactly was Frieren's life plan if none of the heroes had asked her to join their party? Just live in the middle of a forest and pick mint for several thousand years?
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>>285512111
Why not
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>>285512111
Yes. She was utterly terrified and traumatized after fighting Macht once. She gave up on defeating demons.
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>>285512111
the plan was to keep meditating, but around her the age changed to that of men without any input. so men blew the breeze of new times and came to pick her up. no use whining about it.
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>>285510041
Lacks Flamme and Ubel. Honestly? I don't find any of the elves introduced in this show hot even though I like them as characters, and that's a first for me with elves.
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>>285512252
>I don't find any of the elves introduced in this show hot
They have the physique of ten year old boys. In fact the sword demonness in this episode is visually closer to how elf women are portrayed in other anime
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>>285512354
>They have the physique of ten year old boys
damn, where do you live where the ten year old boys look like this?
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>>285507932
Demons are not humans, they are not even remotely related to humans. Demons are like a komodo dragon that learned to mimc the appearance and skills to communicate with goats as a strategy to better prey on them. The point being that they are mimics, skinwalkers. You can converse with them, but the entire conversation will be one of a predator manipulating it's prey without it's knowledge. The demon does not understand, it cannot understand, it does not want to understand what you are yapping on about. At best it toys with you and will never have your interests at heart. The point is how human they seem, when they are not even remotely close to humans. It's supposed to unnerve you, but it seems that for those possessing suicidal empathy, any notion of danger is suppressed, replaced with a lethal notion of mutual understanding, of someone talking down to the poor savage from a position of privilege. It's downright hilarious how midwits out themselves, and sad how it parallels the downfall of the societies they infest.
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>>285512383
Impressive. Very nice. Let's see a shot of Serie in the manga/anime
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>>285512425
>Anon, the entire point is that the demons are written very poorly and in a contradictory way. Putting up a panel explaining why demons are the way that they are, does nothing to address that. You're responding to a doylist argument with a watsonian answer.
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>>285512541
What is she wearing, seriously.
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>>285512529
>You figured it out, but I didn't due to my mental illness. This is the fault of the writer and not me.
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>>285511897
this is how you know any demon apologists are tourists. Even the show states that. There are plenty of other fantasy shows with nuanced demonology. Frieren isn't one of them.
But because [one group] likes that black-and-white approach and thus adopted the show as "theirs", [other group] feels the need to prove moral superiority and counter their opponents. Even if it means taking a ridiculous position.
Its all performative
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>>285506651
OMG Hitler hates demons
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>>285508359
Fucking faggot, Macht didnt not kill for fifty years, he killed any person that Gluck told him to kill, did you even read the arc, and he only keep quiet because it was part of the deal with Gluck
"Help me clean the city and rise to the highest ranks and you can do your experiment once I reach my end" which was turn everybody into gold just so Macht can experience regret, he doesnt.
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>>285506651
From the bits we've heard about this nigga he was an absolute beast.
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>>285504841
Why'd she step on that snake with the same hate she would a demon?
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>285507680
this poster is a known tranny shitskin tourist that seethes about how "problematic" this series is and refuses in-universe explanations for the demons' behavior to keep repeating himself (male forever until the day he dies) ad nauseam
just report this brownoid and ignore he's been doing this shit since the anime aired
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>>285512843
It's a monster trying to kill Stark again.
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>>285512856
Anon, in-universe explanations don't refute an out of universe meta critique about the show and it's themes.
>>285512744
He literally stopped for 50 years.
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>>285510296
>"WELL AT LEAST-"
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>>285512856
Are you the guy who plagues the /vr/ doom threads? You write exactly the same way as him.
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>responds twice off post cooldown
brown shitposters really hate when you call them out kek
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>>285512354
>>285512541
You're both half right. I'd sooner describe Serie's body type as a shortstack than a 10 yo boy, but it's true that female elves in Frieren (at least all two of them we've seen) look short and roundish in direct contrast to both their lythe and elongated depiction in other fantasy series directly influenced by Tolkien's elves, or in most anime where it's just porn stars wearing elf ears. Which is funny because I remember how people claimed Frieren was as close to LoTRverse/classic western fantasy elves as Japan has gotten back when season 1 aired.
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>>285512053
you can see them coming out from the bottom of her dress
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>>285511994
hair around my neck please
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>>285512956
Why can't you comprehend the concept of a human mimic monster? Why must you compare their depictions to browns and be offended?

Further, why must a monster, without any shared ancestry with humans, that evolved to perfectly mimic humans to prey on them be under the spell of human conventions?
>b-b-b-but demons talk to each other in human language
Yeah, they evolved to sing the human song to feed on humans exclusively, why can't they use the same song to communicate with their own species? The issue does not lie in the demons not understanding the noises it makes, the concepts behind the noises just have no intrinsic emotional meaning to demons.
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>>285513085
lol
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>>285513182
He needs demons to be black people, so they can be rehabilitated and he can say "see, there are no evil races". Because leftists are uncomfortable with the concept of something that looks human but isn't human, and is only pretending to be human for the sole reason of trying to blend in with humans to kill them, so they have to rally against that concept as much as possible in all media

If demons can't be rehabilitated and they aren't all holding hands saying "see I saved them" at the end of the story then he claims it's bad writing, despite already admitting he never actually read Frieren and he just comes in here to shitpost because he hates the concept of "evil races" in fiction, but since he doesn't read frieren he never realizes demons literally aren't human to begin with, they're just monsters that look human. He just plugs responses into chat gpt to argue for him half the time

Humans when they die leave behind a corpse
Monsters fade into dust with they die in this setting
Demons like all monsters turn to dust when they die

They were never human, they're just a biological predator of humans that developed a mutation to look human to target human sympathy as a weakness
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>>285509182
A dog whimpers in pain, but it cannot understand calculus. You're a redditor. It's in your nature, just like using language to trick idiot humans like you is in demons' nature. You're disguising complaint about basic themes and rules of a fantasy universe as "critical thinking." You will never understand because you cannot accept pattern recognition.
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>>285506002
butt paizuri
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>>285513504
>He needs demons to be black people, so they can be[...]
holy burger dilation. race stuck in your head rent free
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>>285513182
Anon, in-universe explanations don't refute an out of universe meta critique about the show and it's themes.

There's no reason for the demons to be like that when it fundamentally contradicts the themes and the point of the show.
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>>285513182
Anon, they say explicitly "Only one reason" that they speak like humans and then immediately contradict that by speaking for more than said reason.
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>>285513837
Prefacing every single post with Anon doesn't make you fit in, tourist.
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>>285513806
And what themes and point of the show do the human mimics contradict exactly?
Also, in-universe explanations do refute out of universe meta critiques if those critiques are born from a misrepresentation or willful misunderstanding.
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>>285513890
>>We should value everyone's experiences
>>Except for demons, fuck them
>Do you not see how this is contradictory?
>>Nothing is impossible! Let me show you! Says Stark
>>Except understanding and coexisting with demons is impossible
>>The story shows Frieren understanding beings she considers lesser because of their inferior lifespan
>>Except demons are in fact just lesser
>>The story says that the experiences of people are just as valuable as Frieren's own
>>Yet, it says that demons are invaluable
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>>285513912
see >>285507912
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>>285513959
You're straight up lying.
>>285507950
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>>285513837
You are surely referencing a demon talking shit, or being prideful. In other words, acting very human like, like a human mimic. The entire point is that they are nearly perfect mimics of human speech and behavior, while not being at all human. They use words with emotional meaning and weight, without having any of those emotions. They can probably understand them, they are smart enough to have it explained, but in no way can they feel them. That is what is supposed to make them scary, but your suicidal empathy forces your midwit mind to view the inhuman demon mimic monster as a noble savage that is misunderstood. Failing that, you lash out at the very concept since you are incapable of understanding that your empathy is what is being weaponized here.
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>>285513967
see >>285507995 >>285508109
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>>285513912
Demons are not humans. They are intelligent monsters who do not have human emotions or the capability of understanding human emotions. They can only mimic them as an instinctual hunting tactic. How are you this dense? Demons weaponize empathy, and your gripe is that we should have empathy with demons? fuck man.
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>>285514009
Anon, that doesn't refute anything I just said.
>>285514002
No, I'm actually referencing Frieren herself, retard. She said that they only speak to deceive. Amazing, another retard defending this manga while not knowing anything about it.
>>285514044
Frieren isn't a human either.
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>>285514044
Also, the entire point is that demons regularly act like humans even when no humans are in earshot. They're sentient, intelligent and morally capable, therefore, they aren't deserving of mindlessly murdering.
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>>285514063
see >>285508103
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>>285514101
The only way you could think that's not the theme of the show is if you're horribly retarded or haven't read the manga.



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