Asa is clearly the kind-hearted, brave, supportive, devoting wife that Fuji (not Denji) is dreaming to get for himself now. Asa will definitely have a good ending, and (You)s won't like that.
tradcucks lost in snk, lost in jjk, and will lose hereyou never learn, because you're always stuck in an imaginary past that never existed
>>285515141But you know, Fujimoto is a contrarian...
Yep Fujimoto is a CONTRARIAN. He saw you praise girlboss, he'll shit on them. He saw you shit on tradgirls, he'll praise them to the max. Got it?
Yoshida is not gay. Yoshida is not dead. Yoshida LIKES Asa.
Everyone went to the Asa thread. Just goes to show you who the main character of Part 2 is.
>>285515623Asa the cute and sexy (sexycute). Every man who desires one should have an Asa.
Invaded by dark spirit Reze!
Fancy colored Asa panels
>>285515025Still kinda pissed Yoru used Asa's natural desire to help Denji and him wanting to save Asa to get herself out of trouble and sneak up on Denjiman. I'm not sure if that was the intent but that is the result.
>>285516269It's unfortunate that, in the colored anime, the metallic arms will jump to the eye more easily, compared to the manga in black and white.
>>285515025>>285514991Part 2 went to shit from the exact moment that Yuko died. It's true. You can't debate me on this.
Compare how good the Justice Devil arc was compared to any of the slop arcs we got: Church shit, Aging Devil (holy 35 chapters long), current arc (37+ ongoing chapters). jesus christ what a fall-off
MAPPA will FIX part two.
>>285515623>>285516357>>285516378Asa was such a good main character. I hate Denji and Yoru so fucking much.
>>285516687Kinda funny how quickly this went out of fashion. I haven't seen any popular upload or fanart about it in 2 weeks. It was so artificial.
>>285515025all csm fans are incels
We literally just had the parody with Makima, sissy.
based
>>285516866
>>285516849Yes.
>>285516866Does this Reze make great Jamaican beef patties?
>>285516860>everyone who hates IRIS OUT and it's obvious artificial popularity is a sissy
Why is Fujino literally the same character model as Asa?
>>285517001Trvke
>>285513197The girls in his class thought Miri was attractive and comparable to Denji's appearance. He's probably good looking, but not enough to merit how weird and uncouth he is for the average Japanese school girl.>>285516322Don't hurt me, anon. Even if it might be true.
I only know that a fellow femdomCHAD like Fujimoto also has a taste for straight shotacon.
Denji is buffHaruka is handsomeMiri is both
I feel like the jjk threads are better for discussing the story, but they're harsher on you if you make a mistake.
What would it take for a theoretical part 3 to actually meet your expectations? Hard mode: no waifu-related reasons.
Fujimoto doesn't even give good endings to his protagonists. He's said multiple times he would make his stories bleaker if he could get away with it.
>>285517543We get an actual side cast, possibly featuring the Hybrids too.Denji gets actual growth.We find out Pochita's backstory.
>>285516697Asa and Yoru as a pair started well enough. Fujimoto was way too quick to turn Yoru into a drooling retard, and couldn't keep up with the characterization after reintroducing Denji and having to juggle two MCs.The resulting story meanders way too much without ever committing to a character dynamic of thematic throughline, these things come and go / start and stop and we never get real build-ups and pay-offs out of the narrative zigzag.I also think the story seemed to have more potential when FC was still feasible, but as it got gradually disproven more and more then a lot of stuff just became face-value no-substance shit instead of being possible foreshadowing and build-up. It's all just too flat and monotone.
Asa sex.
>>285517543Mortal main characters (at least 3 of them), return of devil hunter main characters with devil contracts, Denji is comedic relief side character (but the story suffers because he's unkillable and the only main character in Part 2), no more killing off characters before we get a chance to know them, no more 25+ chapter story arcs, no more back-to-back or back-to-back-to-back break weeks with godawful cliffhangers
>>285517810
>>285517810I read that as "ass sex"
>>285517834Asa Ass Sex.
>>285517803Relegating Asa/Yoru to a side character during the entire Church arc was absolutely inexcusable. Having Asa gain power off-screen was such bullshit. I think the entirety of Part 2 should be wiith Asa/Yoru's perspective ENTIRELY, even if all the important moments are happening to Dnji. She's just way more interesting than Derpji. And this is because Denji has nothing to bounce off of anymore. All the characters are dead or Fujimoto didn't write any other friend characters for any of the main characters at all. Yuko and Nayuta died way too fast, and they never got any new friends. They can't meet one single person that wants to get to know them or vice versa? That's bullshit. It's a manga/anime with all these fantastical logic thrown out. Just make up some shit why they can have cool people around them.
>>285517803>>285517933The Asa/Yoru dynamic was the only interesting thing about part 2 to me. The side characters, the misery porn, and the apocalypse plot are all terribly boring to me.I think we should’ve stayed focused on Asa and Yoru’s inner thoughts and relationship instead of switching back over to Denji and shelving Asa indefinitely.
>>285517543I mean that's the thing g. I don't know what I want out of a part 3 until part 2 ends. I guess better sides characters. Didn't really care for Famine, Death, Yoshida, Miri, the Devil hunter club trio, Yuko, etc. Not waste cool sounding shit like the tank devil(that I have been wishi g to see for years just for it to get turned into a LGM arm) and not waste my time with mystery box shit like the main fakesaw man when his identity amounts to nothing. Maybe a bit more world building or just taking the story outside of Japan/Toyko. I guess another Barem like head goon(cause that's what Barem is but that asshole is a chicken nugget now). I guess shove in a new Japanese government agency to replace public safety cause those fuckers have to be obliterated at this point and probably working with the aging devil and possibly death itself would cause some heads to roll(not asking for a good agency, just one that adapted to the new world and learned from PS' mistakes to be more efficient). Also I guess more of a focus on the civilian sector of the devil hunters. Like most of them job but so do the PS agents and I doubt Yoshida was the only competent civilian Devil hunters in Japan. Especially with the church arc showing random kids killing devils in the streets there has to be a bunch of civvies filling in the vacuum left by PS being butt fucked.Like unless some shit happens the russians aren't going to forget having capital nuked, America isn't going forget states and millions of people getting BOOPED after having lady literally steal all of their fingers, and Toyko isn't going to forget surviving getting nuked. also bring back Reze to do some cool shit. Lastly probably won't happen but I would like it to happen. Frankenstein'ed Pochita. I want it. >>285517725I would like to get more Soviet hybrids.
It's crazy to think that Fujimoto couldn't keep up with the characterizations. This is the same author that juggled Denji, Aki, Power, and Makima. What do you mean we can only have Denji, Asa, and Yoru as the only main characters for the entirety of Part 2 (which is now going on longer than Part 1)? What made him change so much in his writing style? Did he get AIDS or something? That would explain all the break weeks. I read the snippets for each chapter release where he talks about all the latest horror films he's watched and he has absolute shit taste. Maybe that has something to do with it? IDK anymore man. It's so sad to see how low chainsaw man has fallen.
>>285518127I'm thinking he either didn't think far ahead enough to realize he set up a bad plot too early and can't retcon his way to something better, or he's just not interested anymore but csm is his cash cow so he can't really stop. Maybe both.
She has finished mating and is happily sleeping over.
>>285517887
>>285518303Yeah, with her dark skinned boyfriend
>>285518127Denji is such a shit-tier character now its unreal.And even if Asa was awesome in early part2 she is literally a Sakura-tier FMC now.I always liked Yoru te most but I'm already getting boring of that character too, she has waaaay too much panel time for such a simple character, as a villain doesn't work and as a love interest she is just a boring tsundere.This shit is becoming too repetitive and the story isn't going anywhere.
>>285517543>>285517988Furthermore with how part 2 brings up themes of identity and imposters I feel like part 3 should expand upon that and cross the line by having devils based off of people/individuals. Maybe these people devils either start taking over the operations of notable people or just replace "normal" folks without even knowing it. I want a "devil factory" where some group of people just spend all day coming up with new concepts/ideas in order to make new devils(if zombies and dragons can get devils so can shit like Freddy Krueger or Pennywise). I want there to be a radiation poisoning devil(or just radiation devil) or a devil new devil that gets recently born on earth and with no master(unlike the gun devil) and just wreaks havoc. I think a lot can be done to expand on the ideas of how Chainsaw man's devils are conceived into this world.
>>285518303Early reports show that the creature is expecting, credible eyewitness reports have spotted her partner Denji purchasing diapers, baby formula, and for some unknown reason, fire extinguishers. Stay tuned as the story develops.
>>285515025Hijacking shitthread, rank the shrine
>>285518576>her partner DenjSince when did Denji become black?
>>285518643Oops I'm retarded
>>285518645Seek help
>>285515025Girls look angelic when wearing cloaks or capes fuck I love the city
Love always finds a way.
Would you
>>285515025I'm telling you right now Denji and Asa will kiss then she will die, most likely due to Denji killing her
>>285518875Yes but not anal
In hindsight, considering part 2, the future didn't rule at all
>>285518918I will fucking stop reading right there.
>>285518875Oral only
i'll never forgive season 1 for gaslighting people into thinking power is blonde fuck nakayama and his "realism" autism
>>285518918>Asa wants to make Denji happy>makes Denji even more miserableWhat's the point of that?
>>285519106It might have been for the best, people would've called her a ripoff zero two around that time.
>>285515430The last thing Yoshida saw were images of his happy gay life with Denji in a alternate world
I thought this shit was close to ending when Kiga got revealed as the death devil, how is this still going? Is there anything even happening at this point
>>285519215If only you knew how bad things really are.
>>285519106Power's hair was blond in 29, 92, and the buddy stories cover. Her hair color is inconsistent. Now fagayama and his sycophants trying to gaslight me into thinking he didn't make Reze's hair blue are a different story and they can go and fuck themselves. Like either make it Jack black or purple.
>>285519250This is the perfect Reze color.
>>285519127That's kind of what's happend with every love intrest
>>285519290It is purple. That is all that matters.
>>285518875
Denji has had sex, he just doesn't know it. It's what Power considers being intimate. This may be a bad take but I support it.
>>285519324Specifically a sort of faded purple, it's really pleasant to look at. I hate when she's drawn with really bright purple hair.
>>285519364How much about sex does Denji really know?
>>285519403He's got porn mags so I'd imagine he knows enough.
>>285519426Porn mags are nothing compared to video
>>285519304It's getting old then. Asa's character is wasted if she's just another thing to torture Denji with. I think she'd handle killing him pretty well so that's the way to go.
Though I prefer my Reze's purple more saturated >>285519376I'm surprised Nakayama himself didn't go with the faded purple. He gave Makima faded red hair.
Any other Mangas out there similar to Chainsaw Man(Part One)?
Imagine the Yakuza guy just cooperated and Makima had to try to hide the eye bag in her coat or something
>>285515025Really cute Asa panels.
>>285518127>I read the snippets for each chapter release where he talks about all the latest horror films he's watched and he has absolute shit taste.Where are those snippets released? I've been reading on the Shonen Jump app, but haven't seen such a thing.
Sleepy thread
>>285519459It sort of depends on the scene.
Sleepy Asa falling asleep on my shoulder
>>285519748She has my cum in her pussy
>>285519815No she doesn't this is MY Asa
>>285518875Why does she photograph her shit?
>>285520131She knows what men want
>>285519527Kek
I love Asa <3
>>285520317Cape Asa is cute
>>285520423She's the cutest superhero!
Cozy nights with Reze...
Are they gonna announce something in that stream on mappa channel? or just talking bullshit
>>285519579I meant Volume, not chapter
>>285520936There is a stream?
yuko?
Just finished part 1. Makima was a bitch. Fuck her
>>285520317Why is this the new meme Asaface?
>>285521463Yeah, fuck Makima
>>285515025Asa/Yoru look like such retards these daysHalf their expressions look like ahegao
>>285521498Fuck Makima, not fuck Makima
>>285521584The sexual frustration is mounting
>>285521618HORNYru's return is imminent!
>>285521463Everyone is so mean to her. Be nice!
>>285521618Kill Yoru for ruining Asa's pretty face with all these ugly expressions.
Even after having finished part 1, why don't most CSM fans hate Makima?
>>285521777Do you hate the sun for causing heatstroke and cancer?
>>285521761Rate my prompt
>>285521777Because I don't have autism and do not hate fictional characters for their poor behavior.
>>285521777She is the best CSM character
>>285521791Are you insinuating that Makima's behavior was acceptable because she was innately wired this way? If so, what do you have to say about Nayuta who was not as naturally vicious as her predecessor?
>>285521805Makima was written to be hated
>>285521777She's a good villain>>285521834LovehatedFujimoto himself loves Makima, she's supposed to be hateable and lovable at the same time
>>285521618I’m gonna masturbate to the part 2 anime so much
>>285521867>loveableThere's nothing loveable about her, retard. Every good deed she does always comes with a backhanded twist.
>>285521882She's autistic and just wanted a hug, as confirmed by Pochita
Fuck makima
>>285522013Man I love ebanoniwa's Reze
>>285521899Then why didn't Nayuta want a hug?
Good night babs, xoxo
>>285522387Good night baba
>>285522382
>>285522471C3 is gonna wanna break his pelvis.
>>285522553
>>285522471I remember Nayuta. Good times.
Let’s wait for the next chapter calmly
>>285522682Asa better watch out for Conquest 3, she's gonna be a JK too but more forward, if you know what I mean.
My beloved Miss Mitaka~ chu chu chu~
boom
>>285523075
>>285518875I don't even have to say it. The cutest and weirdest.
>>285518918To me, there'll be some sort of memory loss involved for Asa. I don't think she'll just die, but I don't see how a good ending can happen either, with Fujimoto I expect something bittersweet.
I wish Fujimoto's art hadn't degraded as fast as it did. Even early part 2 looks great but now its just messy scribbles with lines that are too thick. Some of these recent chapters would look so damn good if he had that part 1 art style going. Shame
>>285521777Makima is a well-written villain to the point she doesn't just feel like a one-dimensional asshole, her actions aren't really forgivable but you kind of understand them once you try to understand the character. She was like a child dropped on a playground with insane powers and then raised in a way that didn't make her understand affection, her view of the world was so distorded that she turned out like that.Also, Fujimoto does a pretty good job of making us live the story from Denji's point of view in Part 1 (think of the set-up for the Power "bang" scene per example), so you can see why Denji is still attached to her.
>>285523558How is Asa not loving Denji anymore not a good ending? Asa will get her good ending even without Denji. He's not the only man in this world anyway.
>>285521472Asa doesn't smile much. It was a rare occasion.
>>285523736Because Denji has no more family, no more friends, more trauma piling up on him and loses another love interest in the worst of ways lmfao. It may be a "good" ending for Asa if you consider the Quanxi mentality of "ignorance is bliss", but for the other side of the relationship it's a horrible ending.
>>285523778He can go find another love interest, or go back to his ex problem solved
>>285523520>top panelI pretend I do not see>bottom panelI am looking
>>285520485>>285523763Best girl has best smile
>>285523796I mean Asa is not the only girl in this world either right?I understand for their shippers, they breaking up might feel bittersweet for them, but for Asa and Denji it certainly won't be the end of the world cause they can find a new partner anytime.
>>285523835>Asa and Denji it certainly won't be the end of the world cause they can find a new partner anytime.They won't because they'll be Adam and Eve
>>285523796You're talking as if love was the stock market. It's like saying "it's no big deal that Nayuta died, he can just find the new form of the Control Devil and it's all good". Losing Asa would affect Denji as much if not more than losing Reze did, and here he can't just give up on his feelings and let Makima be his coping mechanism, he has to face them all alone.
>>285523867>Adam and EveThose are just Shigga's bs, don't trust her narrations too much
>>285523892Asa's favourite games if she was born in the 2000s?
>>285523879Nayuta was kinda his little sister, a family member whose death will always be much more devastating. Asa in the end is just another date who Denji doesn't even love that much he'll replace her like replacing a pantsu it won't be any big deal.
>>285523949You're using the same mentality that Denji used as a coping mechanism in the Aging Devil arc, that alone should hint at the fact it's probably not that simple.
I like the panel with Yoru saying 'No.'
>>285523796I don't see a happy ending for Asa or Denji but it's not as simple as them one of them going 'meh' and walking away. Something horrific will happen.
>>285524201What if Asa and Yoru just become one? No more split personalities, but both under one single personality, so that Asa becomes kind of nuts and Yoru can't just kill as she wishes anymore? If Fujimoto is really inspired by Nisio and Monogatari, then this is the most likely ending.
>>285524244Denji will probably have to eat her. Yoru represents some of Asa's inner feelings.
>>285524264I mean, I'd ideally want an ending where Asa doesn't die, but I guess it also depends on what the plans for the future of the series are. I wouldn't be against a hopeful ending, though if both Asa and Denji become overpowered and able to control their abilities then I don't really see how a Part 3 would be possible.
>>285523763Why was Asa pretending to be hurt here? She didn’t even have this big a reaction to getting her arms chopped off.
>>285524415How about I stabbed you in chest and see how you handled it?
>>285523763I NEED TO ZABE HERNO PAIN FOR ASA NYO NYO NYO!!!!!!!!!!
>>285524244Yoru will get reincarnated as Asa's child. Asa will then have to hide her child from the hunting of the public
>>285524415Impalement is pretty painful. All things considered though she got back up and back into action pretty fast. Her pain tolerance is impressive.
Good morning Asachads and everyone else too
>>285524570G morning
>>285524570Ohaiyo gozaimasu~but it's actually konbanwa right now for me~!
>>285524596I have no idea what a konbanwa is and I'm too lazy to translate. Gonna go hard on my chest today. That'll be fun.
>>285519106Power is blonde though, strawberry blonde at mostPink is the headcanon one
>>285524729her hair gets more strawberry colored when she drinks blood
>>285524570Good morning>>285524832That looks like its the lighting In almost every other Fujimoto art shes blonde
Do not post or talk about Makima
>>285524922for the most part yes but there are some with her hair looking more pink. Fuji generally tends to go for what looks cool in the drawing instead of staying super consistent with the colors.I do agree that power's hair is generally implied to be blonde
>>285524201I think they won't end up together but will have their own families with other characters, maybe even noname npc ones, kinda like Neneto's situation. I don't think Fuji will just downright kill off either of them cause he said he didn't like that trope.
>>285516834He looks like that hxh clown
>>285525048>he said he didn't like that trope.Come to think of it, none of Denji's former love interests were truly dead either...
Denji's story can't exactly end anyway, seems like the Horsemen just keep reincarnating and coming to him, so as long as he's alive then the Horsemen will come to him sooner or later. If Asa and Yoru stay connected in one way or another, I don't see how an outright separation is possible.
>>285525048Was this revealed to you in a dream?
gm fumiko niggas
>>285525482I don't get it. Does 7cm make that much of a difference?>>285525453Gm fumiling
>>285525499>Does 7cm make that much of a difference?Ask Asa's mother, BOOM.
>>285525512I don't get what you mean...
>>285525394Just a guess. Ngl I have no fkn clues what Fatty is gonna do next tho. But one thing for sure neither of them will just die.
>>285515025I'll be honest, as an Asafag if Asa lives by the end of series and not so sad I'll take it as a good ending for her, even if she won't end up with anyone. What about Denjibros, what do you want for Denji in the end? A family? A gf? Sex? Harem?
>>285525903Asa or bust. I think it's set in stone unless something goes extremely wrong and Asa or Denji are fucked up beyond repair. I think the Asa-Yoru fusion isn't outside the realm of possibility, which will make things difficult. Maybe Reze if done with taste and skill.>Yoru>lil D>Conquest 3>Blood 2No.
>>285526127>Asa-Yoru fusionDon't know if this will happen. But yeah I don't think Asa can ever completely get detached with Yoru cause that will make her become totally redundant in this CSM world.
>>285526355
>>285525453so errrrrrrrrrrrr what turns you into a fumiko because i will skirt that boundary
>>285526303>that will make her become totally redundant in this CSM world.And vulnerable. She'd be too weak to be anything but leverage against Denji. I don't want her to die. Asa's had her head crushed several times. Yoru still has the scars. This would be cheap but if Yoru goes maybe Asa's head goes back to being crushed.
good morning bro
>>285525453I wonder, maybe she isn't a slut? If she fucked lots of people then instances of her would grow exponentially.
>>285526615Death needs to get her own BF.
>>285526587This is true. Asa and Yoru cannot split because it would mean the death of Asa. There must be a way to control Yoru.
Chainsaw Man Daima
>>285525903Asa will be miserable if she lives, a relationship with any character isn't going to change that. Asa at her core is damaged individual, with or without Yoru. Any ending where Asa is happy feels like something Fujimoto would never do, his obsession with lebowski makes me think Asa will die all the same and characters will go on just as they have. Denji will probably get laid, he's like Asa, as in a relationship can't fix him.
Here's how I want next chapter to be, Asa will take back control, or somehow communicate with Denji, and tell him to throw up the Devil's he has eaten, and give them to her. It will be a call back to how they both stole money when trapped in the aquarium, and then with the dead Devils, Asa makes a living weapon of her own to fight against Yoru to protect Denji, I think this is how Asa can bring back Death Devil.
>>285526694She wants to live, she said it herself, and she has hope. I'm not prepared to declare she's unfixable right now.My problem with Asa right now is her head is only full of Denji and she thinks he's the key to her salvation.
you are going to die someday and it's ok
>>285526807Yuko's pigeons...
>>285526807I want to die in my beloved's arms of old age.
Asa will live because this is DENJI'S WORLD now! In his world, life is strong. In his world, fife's an open book. In his world, compromise does not exist. In his world of worlds, every step meets the rest! In his world, one is all In his world, never fear the fall. In his world, compromise does not exist.
>>285526783She has no other option, she can't even kill herself. And making peace with Yoru is impossible. Her situation is unfixable, of course Asa has hope but she can't be free, even if her body was her own again.
>>285526807I want to see how mindbroken Asa will get when she realizes she was played by Yoru and led to Denji's downfall.
rude
>>285526844Cute trio though
REZE THE BIG
>>285526825Yoru should have PISSED ON THE MOON.
>>285526844I hope Miri fucking dies cartel style
What if Denji creates his own world but it only exists in some kind of pocket dimension and Asa is it's only denizen. Or maybe Asa is eaten and Denji gets his own Asa tulpa.
PRIMEruhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45IJrhLazZQ
>>285526913
>>285526929Aryan v Honourary Aryan should never happen...
>>285526807I'm already dead, it happened sometime during my childhood.
Nobody bothered to pick up Miri, he's lying on the ground decapitated since asa's suicide
>>285526840She already tried to kill herself when she realized how evil Yoru was. How broken can she get?
>>285526940>Has never studied nazismHitler planned an Aryan vs Japanese/honorary Aryan war ~100 years after winning WW2.
Shart 2 losted.
>>285526967She still some hope in Denji. No more Denji no more hope. Trying to an hero to stop Yoru isn't as broken as giving up completely.
>>285526977nyooooo asa would have to kill me with a lunge mine when i land
>thread this dead>we havent even gotten through the first week of break week yetholy fuck...i knew this general would slow down due to how fucking awful that last chapter was but jesus FUCK we might actually see the collapse of /csm/
>>285526825Nice art>>285526783I think in the end Yoru won't be dealt with and Asa will be forced to leave Denji and everyone else. I can see Asa, a girl who always craves for romance, will be unironically forced to fully commit to a parasocial life and shut down her feelings for anyone for eternity just to prevent Yoru from making any strong weapons. Welp this doesn't sound too bad of an ending for me though.
aging arc was kino
>>285527014My belovedShe needs blue contacts
I MISS HER
>>285527051coolest debiru design and antagonist she had AURA
>>285521777Why would anyone hate the love devil? All she deserves is hugs and free icecream.
>>285523949Trvke
>>285527008You coulda had a soldier affair with her and promise her a spot in the new world order. This prob happened in another life.I'm glad I never joined the military.
>>285527051She is now holding Yoru's ass in the form of intertwined fibers
lol
>>285526965>Pochita slashes Death, Fami and Miri all at the same time>Yoru puts together Death (also, I thought Death couldn't die?), but later Pochita eats herI get that Miri is a hybrid so he wouldn't permanently die, but what happened to Fami there? Did she die and reincarnate?
>>285527083someone finally gets it..
>>285527199kekquean is so hot
>an insanely popular band made a post about the reze movie>800k likesGOOOOD FUCKING DAMNIT. WHY THE FUCK CANT SHART POO HAVE THE CULTURAL IMPACT AS CHAD WON? WHY DID FUJI DESTROY THIS KINO SERIES WITH SHART FUCKING POOOOO
>>285527199What is the original image for this?
Fujimoto is not sensible enough to give Asa a happy ending, or free her, her best option is dying.
>>285527251Because it isnt animated yet
>>285527304Hairy Fumiko sexo Denji
This series is just Twilight for men
I should commish some dolls kino
>>285527199>>285527304>>285527384https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=9880828&tags=cuckquean+chainsaw_man+BejitaCHAD btw
>>285527083No lies detected here
>>285527199>cucksa rambling entire odyssey level monologues in her head about why she actually has the best position while sitting in the chair hilarious
>>285527432What would you commission?
>>285527423*Harry Potter Close enough.
>>285527363>CRAPPA will save SHART POO just you wait!
>first time being caught up to an actively publishing manga>two minutes of reading once a week >if you're luckyThis fucking sucks.
>>285527688There's a big list of manga Fujimoto has recommended over the years, they're all decently good, if you like Fujimoto's style of writing you might enjoy the recommendations too. Waiting for small chapters sucks.
reze but better
>>285527561Some Solo Asa, of course.I wonder if Asa would play Nazi Zombies with me...maybe it should be her playing that.
>>285527747>reze but american instead of soviet
>>285527749idk why every chainsaw man artist always depicts the cast as zoomers/gen alpha instead of gen x/millenials like they are
>>285527251Part 1 tells a universally understood story, at least to young men, about a loser boy who has base wants who eventually develops a family that he loves and more grand and complex goals in life. There is a reason it's so popular. Events like Reze coming into the story also tell a tale of what every young man wants, a cure girl to swoop in and be interested in him for him, so it hits extra hard especially with elements of breaking up with a psycho gf thrown in as well during their fight. Part 2 is just a schizophrenic mess that has a couple good ideas, none of which get executed well at all and Denji's character development literally gets reversed and he is made dumber than before. It's just a boring mess that for some reason I am held prisoner by and keep reading from week to week. At least I don't pay for it I guess
>>285528005Cuz zoomers are the current thing. Zoomers identify heavily with the shitty CSM world. It's not that complicated.
>>285528013>Denji's character development literally gets reversed and he is made dumber than beforeI like part 2 overall, maybe more than it deserves, but this is the part I hate the most. Denji acts like everything in part 1 never happened to him.
Hag/ss/a grooming shota me
>>285528163damn
>>285528163I would cum inside her so hard.
>>285525903It's a bit sad, but I think the ideal ending for him is just watching Asa be unsaveable and it sort of breaking him a bit. Maybe with a Reze return, but not in a particularly romantic way at first. I'd like it to be an ambiguous ending where Reze commits to trying to make Denji live a normal life and isn't sure if she, or anyone else can.
>>285528203
>>285528113>I like part 2 overall, maybe more than it deserves, but this is the part I hate the most. Denji acts like everything in part 1 never happened to him.Same. Whenever he seems to get a moment of lucidity, he just undoes it the next moment.He himself admits he can't move on and just copes with his pain, but he mostly comes off as schizophrenic about his mess of a situation.I'm waiting for the big moment that finally changes this situation of his for good, because he can't go on like this (both for his well-being and for the narrative).
>>285525903A good ending doesn't necessarily need to be related to who they end up fucking by the end of it for me, that's largely irrelevant. I just need to see the character in question complete some sort of arc and actually have some sort of concrete ending that wraps their story neatly. Reze had this but Fuji thought it would be cool shock value to bring her back as a Makima slave so now shes just canonically alive but nowhere to be seen.
>>285527251Part 1 is just really good. Reze arc in particular is a very easy arc to feel intense relatable feelings from.
>>285527363Give it up
>>285528454good eye captainyou can always tell by the filename
I have once again kneeled to Fujimoto and bought more physical copies of CSM volumes. I even have his other stuff and Buddy Stories.
>>285528740I just want a crumbReze arc soundtrack on Vinyl please...
>>285525903I like seeing Denji miserable, so I want more Denji suffering. I don't know if its possible to top the kind of misery that came from Makima, though.
>>285527251Its very difficult to make sincere, sentimental art that doesn't come off as forced or pretentiously needy on the authors part. Part 1 (especially Rezes arc) manages to succeed.
>>285528805>I like seeing Denji miserable, so I want more Denji suffering.Same>I don't know if its possible to top the kind of misery that came from Makima, though.Not anytime soon. It would take like a 10year timeskip with Kekji living happly with Asa and their 2 kids and with Blood2 as a mascot, and then Conquest3 murderizes them all. Less than this cannot surpass part1 missery.
>>285528991This is why I think there will be a significant time skip after Part 2. I wanna see 30 year old Denji, I wonder how much of a piece of shit he would be still.Also, Milf Asa
I honestly think that the adaptation of early Part 2 will make as much noise as the Reze arc, with how popular Asa already is it wouldn't be shocking at least.I couldn't really put it into words, but it feels like the manga took a very different direction from Falling Devil onwards, I do still like it a lot but it doesn't have the same emotional impact imo. I guess that it's partially because the story escalates a lot and we leave the slice of life part a bit behind (also the art has a decline realistically).
>>285526807I want to die heroically
>>285526807Fujimoto actually killing Denji would be insane kek.
ohhh shit i said something racist and i forgot im on /a/welp see you fags, im eating a 3 day ban cause the jannies on this board are tranny faggots that get mad that you arent ERPing like homos
>>285528113>>285528249Agreed, it feels like right when he is about to develop a coherent and productive thought, it gets taken away from him the very next moment. It happens over and over again to the point I find part 2 completely madening to read because there is no development, just a terminal return to the mean which was boring to begin with. The denji at the end of part 1 isn't the denji we got when he came back in part 2
>>285529167All part of FREEZE devil’s plan
>>285529051I’d prefer a slow burn. Some say chainsawman will end. Others hear a chainsaw starting.
>>285529290>The denji at the end of part 1 isn't the denji we got when he came back in part 2Why do people still insist with this myth?
>>285529217This.Asa and Nayuta would be raped and murdered by them, and not in that order.
>>285529409Csm characer that would say this>?
>>285529428Nayuta
>>285529428Nayuta. But she can’t post here…
>>285529290I disagree that it wasn't the Denji who came back, that tired Denji that we got at first was a very logical evolution to the one at the end of Part 1 honestly. I do think he feels dumbed down from a certain point onwards though, especially with how he loses Nayuta and commits some mistakes he just shouldn't be committing after what he went through. The thing is that this idea implies that Denji somehow matured to a point of making no more stupid mistakes, I think that the real problem is that we're overestimating Denji to some degree, literally none of his demons were solved at the end of Part 1, if anything he had a ton of unresolved issues and his breakdowns throughout Part 2 are just the consequence.He didn't get more mature through Part 1, he was just forced to try and be more mature because he had no one else left but Nayuta.
>>285529428If Denji was a little higher IQ it would be himPower would definitely hate jews like me.
>>285529167Nips hate Part 2 for being shit while redditors love Part 2. No surprise here
>>285529461Blud is in highschool. He’s allowed to, nayh, supposed to be a tad retarded.
>>285529409>>285529476How should we remove illegal aliens?
>>285515141>an imaginary past that never existedTardnon, I ...
>>285529527uncs still reading CSM forgot what it was like to be young fr
>>285529528Labor camps on the shadowy landmass on mars. Darkness devil will give them complimentary continental breakfast. They should plan for that as well…
>>285529528The problem isn't removing illegals, it's that jews control the government. As it stands the average US citizen has more in common with a Mexican than the corrupt geriatric Jewish pedophiles running the state.Any tool given to the jews will be used for bad purposes. The concept of ICE is good, ICE in practice is bad because of Israel.
>>285529527He joined highschool at like 17 or something as well, he wasn't even able to have a childhood, the closest thing he had to that was his life with Power and Aki and it ended in the worst of ways. Expecting him to be mature and well put together just doesn't work, if anything it'd only work if the writing was shit, and I'm saying that as someone who was frustrated about how Denji was acting for a good while.
>>285529558>uncsWhat's with all the nigger speak on 4chan these days?
>>285529623Unc is colonized zoomARYAN speech howeverbeit.
The level of discussion here is like what Power would start saying if she spent too long watching Reels, but at least Power is a cute and quirky girl.
>>285529558Denji and sword guy should get pot legalized bruh like finna doinkin up big smokes fr
>>285529607Asa, go back to writing poetry. /pol/ brainrot doesn't suit you.
The plot of Yoru having a crush on Denji and not being able to accept it is one of my favorite things in Part 2, after a while she becomes less mature than Asa about it.
>>285529353>remove these pages>have Reze reunite with him after he defeats Makima>last page is him remembering his promise to PowerThere, Part 2 doesn't exist anymore.
>>285529796This is an SSS tier Yoru panel
An ounce of cocaineFought over like spouting propanePrices of love bouncing o’er painWithout any amping sounds to gainChainsawman is not like the othersOne star with countless spikes
>>285529623ZoomerCHADs run /csm/. Even the older zoomers are being uncs. It's time for you to start looking into retirement homes
>>285529607t. fingers herself to blond boys
>>285529675If you can believe it I've heard much more redpilled things than the discussion here come out of a woman's mouth.
I mean, I wouldn't know exactly, but isn't Chainsaw Man a manga written for the demographics of teenagers and young adults anyway? I wouldn't expect a large chunk of the fanbase to be 35+ for the least.
>>285530045CSM is a seinen
>>285530001bruh we underaged b& are now in our early 20s. get with the times, you're crashing out over getting old
>>285530009>Asa studying far right talking points to impress the white boy she's on a date withI need this frl
>>285530001The youngest zoomer is 24 nowadays, unc
>>285530063I'd still say that it's very shonen-heavy in the style, and it has teenagers as main characters, written to depict the emotions of teenagers. It shouldn't be TOO surprising that a lot of the fans are in that younger demographic.
>>285529971OK, Tyrone Gomez Shekelstein.
>>285530113Asa already impresses me by breathing, that sort of talk would make me faint.
>>285530114>youngest zoomer is 24 nowadaysWhere the fuck is your cutoff? 2006 kids are zoomers. I think up to 2010 are all zooms.
>>2855301651997-2012
AAAAAAAAA I WISH MILLENNIAL ASA WOULD GROOM ZOOMER MEEEEEEEEEEE I'M SO HER TYPE
>>285530165>2006 kidsThey're adults now, unc. 2006 was a really long time ago
>>285529971Just wait until ICE and Israel start building concentration camps for white people, left and right. You'll be sorry you didn't speak up sooner.Leftists are cancer though you're right. They allowed this shit to happen.
>>285527251Part I was legitimately great. Part II is not comparable
There has been a rise of HIV in Algeria so if you don't hear about me in a while then it means I am fumiko destroyer of dicks.
>>285517047Fujimoto's ideal wife
HAGbeni (aged extremely well) looking for a younger man...
Sometimes, I think back of Part 1, and the hatred that Makima had for Denji is actually fucking insane. It even keeps affecting Denji post-mortem with the existence of Barem, I can't think of many other cases where a villain was so repulsed by the hero.
INEED TO FUCKING SAVE ASA'S BLOODLINEHAGSA HAGSA HAGSA!!!!! STILL A VIRGIN!!! ALMOST GETTING TO INFERTILITY AGE!!!! NEED NEED NEED TO IMPREGNATE!!!
>>285523763Locust sama hayay
>>285530370Just don't have sex with 3dpd retard
>>285530486Nah man that's the solution to all life's problems didn't you read the manga?
>>285530438dio from jojo
>>285530456I was surprised to learn there are women who are still kissless virgins into their early 20shttps://files.catbox.moe/71kyn3.png
>>285530624Plenty, depends on where they live and their upbringing
>>285530430Uh oh, melty
makimass
In the dump thread of international assassins arc. there was someone who made a theory that Yoshida sacrifices school girls for octopus powers. I guess this theory was proven right since he sacrificed Fumiko.
>>285530703Hit the nail on the head, huh? Don't worry, last I heard the Burger Kang in the hood is still hiring.
>>285530788Kek
Shalom my fellow Rabi, are we ready for another day of appreciating the hero of the IDF Denji and cherishing the values he thought us like lust greed gluttony selfishness wrath pride and lack of dignity?
>>285515025I figured out who the unidentified woman brutally murdered by the serial killer in that extra movie scene is.She's exactly just that.An unidentified woman.A victim whose life we didn't get to explore and will never truly find about. She died mysteriously and without an openly confirmed identity, only to be placed in a body bag at the end of the movie (as Kishibe narrates Reze's backstory), alongside the other countless victims of the arc. Her last moments of her personal life were an anonymous tragedy.She was a Jane Doe.
I just thought of something which is probably kind of stupid. Since Denji-man swallowed Death and the concept of death was erased, can Denji even die if he gets hit by Yoru's "bang"?
>>285515025Fami my beloved will crush this simp and her simp
>>285530919No but he can be turned into a living weapon
>>285530926Which Fami
>>285530975The stronger, cute, nicer, selfless, Fami who will save the whole world
if death is erased, what happens to plants? what happens to the animals we turn into food? would pests no longer be able to die from pesticides?
>>285531019Don't think about it Denji will puke death when the pizza kicks in that or when Yoru punches him.
>>285529834Would've been nice and satisfying honestly.
>>285517543>A real progression of Denji's character >Denji having to pay for his sins from Part 2 >Denji actually going after Power >Conquest 3 as a villain and a "haunt" for Denji, making him remember how he was partly to blame for Nayuta's death >A real deepening of the hybrid characters >The return of characters like Kishibe and Reze who should have returned a long time ago PS: no, my wanting parts of the plot involving Reze and Power to be resolved isn't for "waifu-related reasons".
>>285530919Top kek
>>285530945Just needs to win at rock-paper-scissors again I guess. It's all based on Yoru's perception of the battle anyway, maybe she just won't be able to weaponize him because she only hit him twice while he wasn't paying attention and doesn't perceive it as a proper win.
>>285531060If you're a faggot that is
>>285531056but what if he doesnt?
>>285531094Yoru will shoot his face so he doesn't mess with her perception
>>285531060After he satisfies her, he gets to work on the others
>>285531094he got no arms bruh, he's going to have to invoke the sex deal or some other ass pull to get out of this. then we get to see Yoru sex with Denjinugget
>>285531131Just don't think about it since Fujimoto didn't.
>>285531104kek enjoy your slop
3 days to the new chapteryahooooooooooooo
>>285531184
>>285518303This has never been seen before. Will the creature be able to give us offspring of its species?
>>285518303Apparently, the creature is very pleased with her mate's performance.
>>28553118410 days*It's break week, remember?
>>285531136>>285531162I mean, Yoru seems not to like it when fights aren't played fairly, and to attack Denji and possibly defeat him here she did it in the most unfair way ever. Probably won't be like that, but I wonder if she won't just be unable to weaponize him since she won unfairly.
>>285518778Soulmates never truly separate.
Post Lewdsa please
>>285520758Cuties
>>285531297She doesn't like it when others are the ones playing unfairly against her because she's a hypocrite (she's a devil after all).
>>285531063>A real deepening of the hybrid charactersI just want a focus on Barem. Miri sucks.
>>285531412
>>285531437Also I doubt she'd shoot his face, she seems to want a clear view of his defeated face, it's a fetish at this point.
>>285531491Phonesa, my beloved.
>>285531296>10 days*>It's break week, remember?fuck... I forgot
>>285531684just kiss Asa already fuck
>>285523796THIS. Asafags talk as if losing Asa would have as much impact on Denji as losing Aki, Power, and Nayuta. Of course, he wouldn't be indifferent, but it's not like he'd be so devastated that he wouldn't recover. We have to remember that he only started having a more "friendly" relationship with her in this arc.
>>285531063Pretty much this, it would justify Part 2 as the necessary buildup, although I don't know if the main villain should be Conquest 3 (who could be "the Barem" of Part 3) or an entirely new character (Devil Devil?).
>>285531063I feel like Conquest 3 being antagonistic towards Denji would simply make her Makima 2.0. I dunno if that'd make for an interesting character when Makima's story has already been told in Part 1.
I am pretty sure we can all agree that if fujimoto ended CSM with part one, chainsaw man would have gone down as a cult classic.
Another Horseman as the villain of a potential Part 3 would get old imo, especially if it's Control 3 since we have literally had Barem in Part 2 which is just a follow-up to what Makima was trying to achieve. If Yoru is put under control (or another more peaceful War Devil comes), Control 3 doesn't turn out as bad as Makima and they manage to prevent the end of the world, then all the Horsemen could very realistically just keep being around Denji without destroying everything. He needs to stay around them anyway, not having the Horsemen under surveillance could never turn out well.
>>285523879>Losing Asa would affect Denji as much if not more than losing Reze didI highly doubt it, I mean, Reze didn't even die, she just rejected Denji and left (at least as far as Denji knows), but he considers losing her as great a loss as the people who were family to him and who REALLY died. Yes, Denji would be sad about Asa's death, but not only for her sake, but for himself for not being able to protect anyone.
>>285531815Idk, if the story ended like this it would've lowkey been a pretty bad ending.
Schizo hours.
>>285531894No it wouldn't? "The adventure continues" is a perfectly fine note to end on
>>285531894Fuji said that P1 is supposed to be just an intro to how the "hero" Chainsaw Man came about. Like Batman begins or something.He doesn't feel like there's a definite conclusion until Denji quits being a hero.
>>285531853>peaceful War devil>expecting the devil that embodies the concept of war to be peaceful The only way for things to get back to normal at this point is to get rid of Yoru entirely. She's become a cartoonishly evil villain who's dead set on holding Asa hostage till the bitter end. Makima could've been redeemed through Nayuta because her concept is a bit more abstract and thus opens op the possibility to be "tamed", but Yoru will always be inherently violent and destructive because that's literally her nature as the war devil.
>>285525903I just want Denji to have his family back.
>>285531412Hope I don't get banned for this
>>285532019She’s never had post FUCK kisses
>>285531893I honestly wouldn't doubt it at all, losing Asa would mean that he'd lose the one person he still has in his life, while also failing to save someone doomed by a devil that they can't control, sort of like with Aki. When he lost Reze, he had other people in his life which brought him happiness still around, and still felt great pain. Losing a girl who he KNOWS is in love with him for sure and ending up with no one else left in his life would probably be worse to me. It's not a competition of course, both hurt, but the context of Part 2 is lonelier.
>>285532102Disgusting...
>>285532133Miri will put him on to crackhouse porch niggering, like in a good wayNowadays mfs wanna talk like they got somethin to say
>>285532019Fujimoto sorta wrote himself into a corner with YoruEither he can:1. Have Yoru be just a straight-up cartoon villain who needs to die2. Try to force some semi-redemption or at least have her die on a somewhat sympathetic noteNeither option would be satisfying. She lacks the pathetic for the first option to work and she's too cartoonishly evil for the second option to work.
>>285532019The current Death Devil seemingly wants to protect life on Earth, there can be incarnations of the Horsemen which cause less chaos depending on their upbringing and such. If a fusion with Asa happens, per example, the overly violent and sadistic nature of Yoru would at least be watered down.
>>285532010Part 2 is the Dark Knight. Barem is Joker. Asa/Yoru is Harvey Dent. Nayuta is Rachel. Denji is Batman and just like how Batman thinking with his dick in that movie help lead to Harvey becoming Two Face Denji thinking with his dick help Yoru fester to the point she became a problem. Something something GPD is corrupt like Public Safety something something.>>285532169>Miri will put him on to crackhouse porch niggering, like in a good wayWut?
>>285532185*she lacks the intimidation for the first optionI changed my sentence partway through and forgot to delete some words fuck
>>285532102FVARK!!!!!!!!!
>>285532185>Fujimoto sorta wrote himself into a corner with Yoru>1. Have Yoru be just a straight-up cartoon villain who needs to dieI mean Yoru's bitch and killing the bitch seems fine. I don't really see how Fujimoto wrote himself into a corner.
>>285532133His previous failures to save people would add to the pile. That's why he was affected so much by Yoshida and even Fakesaw. Early P1 Denji wouldn't have given a dick about them, but now he's traumatized by the loss of family and friends and understands how it feels.Fuji's obviously trying to show how much more difficult it gets for Denji to "keep getting back up."I think he's reached the point with Asa where he'll rather be dead than have another one die on him.
>>285532197Barem absolutely has a plan. He is the iove until Reze returns
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>>285531801Makima mostly held Denji in contempt because he was in her way to Pochita.Conquest 3 should hate Denji personally, because he failed to protect her because of his actions. She actually placed faith in Denji, unlike Makima, and this was the result.>>285532019>Makima could've been redeemed through Nayuta because her concept is a bit more abstract and thus opens op the possibility to be "tamed", but Yoru will always be inherently violent and destructive because that's literally her nature as the war devil.Makima gets redeemed as Nayuta because "some" devils (read: the plot-relevant ones Fujimoto wants to do a twist about) end up developing a desire that is completely antitethical to their devil nature.Blood starts thinking all lives are equally trivial, she ends up wanting to save Meowy (and later Denji) as she realizes she wouldn't want to spill the blood of her pet (and her first buddy).Conquest naturally wants to control everything and everyone, but deep down wants the egualitarian affection found in a family.Yoru will probably have some similar plot twist.Pochita's dream was "receiving a hug", which he could only get as he became Denji's little pet dog, because otherwise he was too strong: there's probably a plot twist there too, depending on who/what "Chainsaw Man the Hero of Hell" really is.
>>285532261“I’m better when it’s moving” ahh heroes joruney
>>285532246I don't think Fuji will do the Conquest thing again. Yoru's humiliation may be far worse than just dying and reincarnating as another bitch Devil.She may be nerfed back into being a bird, or she suffers an ego death and merges into Asa the same way Violence did to Galgali.
Rezeden had a better romance in 13 chapters than Asaden had in 130
>>285532369Then… then… why can’t we them get out of our head!!!
>>285532261>I think he's reached the point with Asa where he'll rather be dead than have another one die on him.Yeah, I fully agree with that. Denji's stuck in a situation where he's trying to make things go his way despite it being really unrealistic at this point, even if he's exposing himself to an almost certain loss he wants to save Asa no matter what. I think that 226 and 227 were fairly important chapters to visualize how Yoru would gladly use Asa as a poker card against him which would make a win almost impossible anyway.Him failing to save Asa would generally be a lame thing honestly, especially with how he's been failing all along, you can't carry a Denji who has only losses on the long term. I'm not saying the happy ending he wants will happen, but I don't see how a back to square one would make for a good ending between those two.
>>285532142>>285532227I know but I spoilered it so hopefully the jannies will be forgiving.
If Asa dies then what the fuck was even the point of Part 2? I'm not saying Denji needs a happy ending but killing off the only other developed character like that makes the whole story feel empty
Asa had a better romance with me in 1 day than Reze did in 13 chapters.
>>285532299>Barem absolutely has a plan. Barem is more "some man just want to watch the world burn" than "the one with the plan". Barem seems to be following along with death devil's plan whatever that was supposed to be.>He is the iove until Reze returnsBarem is the what?
>>285532421>>285532488This is why i don't think Denji or Asa will die.
>>285532505He’s the jupiter of the (current) story
>>285532503>Asa had a better romance with me in 1 dayShut up Yoshida, aren't you supposed to be fried calamari?
>>285532503your girl lost to yoshida in the poll btw
Chapter 227 is wild.
>YoSHITa
>>285532488>If Asa dies then what the fuck was even the point of Part 2?Looks like you're finally getting closer to the truth.
If Denji was smart, his joker card would be to turn back to human and kiss Yoru by surprise. I'm not even kidding, it'd definitely confuse her enough to save him, and there's no way she'd think she owns him if he initiaties the kiss.
>>285532625Why would I want millions of people to like the girl I like? That's being a cuck.
>>285532599I don't really see how Barem is like the god of thunder/head god like figure? Hell Miri for all his worthlessness got a better spot this current arc/not chosen by the death to get eaten by Pochita.
>>285532684Fuck, this is how part 2 is ending isn't it?
>>285532687What the fuck is r a Miri
Denji...
>>285532684Going to be a tall task to pull that off without arms and legs
>>285532745>Gets his head caved in 3 seconds laterKnowing Denji this would probably turn him on
>>285532736Did you make a typo?
>>285532817Yes I lied.
>>285532723>>285532758If Fujimoto got inspired by Kizumonogatari in the past, I definitely can imagine how that'd happen lmfao. He gets his whole body blown up by a "bang", and uses his head alone in the confusion to get to Yoru's face and kiss her.
>>285532736Who?
>>285532745Denji is a sick fuck for what he did to Mai
>>285532684Denji does this, and bites off her tongue to prevent her from turning him into a weapon. He drinks her blood and heals. Denji wins, Yoru loses, and one more Reze callback.
>>285532857Someone who shouldv’e had at least one to three scenes holding a tridenpt before he bit it.
>>285532893It would keep Asa alive as well, damn this is such a good idea for an ending to this fight that I don't think Fujimoto even thought of it kek. If he did and it ends up happening, I kneel.
>>285532893This is the most likely prediction I've seen.
>CSM is inspired, among other things, by superheroes, Spider-Man in particular given the school setting and CSM shooting chains to move around (even has the super black form)>Spider-Man teaches that with great power comes great responsibility>Peter, in the Raimi movie (=what Fujimoto probably watched), only learns this lesson after Uncle Ben dies, seemingly (fuck the retcon in 3 lol) because of his own actions>Fire Devil reprimanded Denji for eschewing his responsibility as a superhero and picking a made up third/non-choice out of the two and warned him about making the same mistake with the two choices he'll later getI think Denji is going to learn his lesson the hard way.
Fire Punch had an explicit Spiderman 2 reference. He's for sure seen the Raimi spiderman movies.
>>285532987He already did that no? That's why he's choosing to save Asa>Yoru tries to do some "nuh uh choose me or Asa" shit at the end to stop him from killing her>Denji chooses Asa and kills Yoruidk something like that. Would be corny but still
>>285532987I wonder what's the punishment gonna be, killing Asa would feel repetitive.
>>285532936Yoru's not getting stopped by the mere loss of a tongue.This retard is tough if nothing else.
>>285533033The whole cockroach devil chapter was a reference to spider-man 1
>>285533033Peak recognizes peak after allhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKRP44F51_0
>>285533098KINOman 3 is better.
Can't Denji have just... learned his lesson from before? And NOT have Asa killed as a punishment?
>>285533075The physical damage isn't the problem, what would make her stop fighting would rather be the kiss. She's been seething internally at her feelings for him for a while and it's probably the most immature and "human" thing about her, this very fight is only happening because she's coping with those feelings by telling herself that she doesn't really love him, if he kisses her then it'll confuse the fuck out of her. Or I think at least.
>>285533075It's a victory (in tongue war)
>>285532987>Fire Devil reprimanded Denji for eschewing his responsibility as a superhero and picking a made up third/non-choice out of the two and warned him about making the same mistake with the two choices he'll later get>I think Denji is going to learn his lesson the hard way.Pretty sure Denji just made a third option this arc and the point of part 2 is FUCK THOSE WHO FORCE YOU INTO BINARY CHOICES.
Was it ever explained why Yoru couldn't turn him into a weapon back at the Aquarium?
>>285533118No. Asa will die, Denji will not learn a single thing from all the bullshit he's gone through and nothing will get resolved because muh Big Lebowski. There won't be a Part 3 either btw. Thanks for playing.
>>285533174I mean, those people back at the cockroach devil fight actually did die. I think Denji saving Asa is almost his way of learning his lesson to not be self absorbed
>>285533127She's fighting him because her obsession with Pochita overshadows everything else. She even told Denji that she doesn't really care about fighting him, just Pochita.It's not mere cope on her part.
>>285533232Nayuta was that lesson. Asa is his redemption
>>285522471>SCUMji let this die
>>285533174>FUCK THOSE WHO FORCE YOU INTO BINARY CHOICESSpider Man 1 did this
>>285533317how many more crimes will SCUMji be able to get away with before he's forced to face the consequences of his actions in the most painful way imaginable?
>>285533174>just say "fuck you" to all your problemsi don't think that's a very good lesson for him to learn
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>>285533232Yeah but Denji saved the cat. Asa is the cat. Like yeah no one other than Yoshida died but a lot of people are suffering fates worse than death right now while Ada can just regenerate from it. >>285533330Actually yeah it did. Green goblins was like CHOOSE SPIDER-MAN and spider-man chose a third option, save both the kids and MJ(Ursula is a better match for Peter than Raimi MJ but that's an entirely different subject and she wasn't even in 1). The difference is Spider-man the hero's third made up option was saving both then getting beat up by green goblin for a bit before beating the shit out of Norman while Denji the anti hero who already doesn't give a shit about random people unless they are begging him not to kill him(see doll devil minions and fakesaw man hostages) just going straight for the kill and saving a cat.
"oh hi Power 2.0, Meowy? What's Meowy?"
>>285533428It's less "fuck you" to all your problems and more don't let yourself be locked into thinking your options are limited. But also fuck the Fire Devil for granting powers to dip shit brother #1 who didn't used any of them when the cockroach got him and giving Yuko powers.
>>285533581I feel like Asa is meant to be more the Fire Devil kid in this situation.Or something. If I'm being honest Part 2's themes are really messy
>>285522471>Opps family was killed. Oh well, Ill just get a new one. Hurp durp poetry. There better be a big "I was just coping scene or I am not sure I can stomach Denji anymore.
>>285533703Most of part 2 is messy.
>>285533695>granting powers to dip shit brother #1 who didn't used any of them when the cockroach got himIn retrospect this was such a blatant retcon lmao
>>285533057The two choices he's now eschewing in favor of "his world he's inviting Asa to" are, by his admission, Death and War, it's not Asa and Yoru.>>285533174It's an awful conundrum, but sometimes you're just forced into it.Do you save the brother? You let five people die.Do you save the five elders? You let a young person with a life ahead of him die.Fire Devil didn't reprimand him because he let the brother die to save the five elders. That would have been a terrible choice for the brother, but ultimately motivated.Instead, Denji simply told Cockroach to fuck himself, killed it, let everyone die without even caring about who they were and bragged about his non-choice.>>285533058Asa may or may not die because of this, but I was reminded of Uncle Ben. Peter didn't listen to his lesson and he died because of his irresponsibility.In any case, Denji, somehow (either because of circumstances or activated by Fire Devil itself), is going to get some hurdle to face, just like the revenge of Fakesaw Man from the last time.
If Asa died, Yoru would be emotionally devastated and would never recover from her loss. If Yoru died, Asa would kill herself.
>>285533751There already was
>>285533822>If Yoru died, Asa would kill herself.Asa wants Yoru gone. By admission, Asa believes Yoru is ruining her life.
>>285533888Yoru was Asa's only friend, Asa would forgive her in a heartbeat. All you need is this scene, even though she's abusing Asa's emotions here, I don't think Yoru is lying about feeling hurt because of Asa's fear towards her.
>>285533970>I don't think manipulative scumbag Devil is lyingEven Asa is less naive than you
>>285533970Asa has Denji now. Yoru is ruining her life and preventing her from having what she wants.And yknow, Asa is actively working against Yoru as we speak by helping Denji. You lost.
>>285534079They're very close friends I swear.
>>285534141Sure, like Israel and Palestine
>>285534126Yoru will take Asa back from Denji.
>>285534183Yoru knew what Asa was doing and still never stopped her, have you ever asked yourself why?
>Asa and Yoru are Morning and Night>they are an incomplete fusion>Fujimoto is a fan of KH, where characters who don't fully sit within light and darkness take the path of dawn/twilight
>>285533703I guess to further add Asa is associated with saving and caring for cats. Denji himself also has a fondness of cats. So Asa being the cat in this current third choice scenario makes sense to me.>>285533754Oh for sure. I wonder if Fujimoto altered the original identity of fakesaw man just to fit that arc(are we just calling it the Fire Devil arc or the fakesaw man arc, IDFK?)>>285533778>It's an awful conundrum, but sometimes you're just forced into it.While I agree that it was an awful conundrum saving that he was forced into two choices isn't accurate. Maybe Denji could have saved all six people but the cat dies. Maybe somehow Denji saves all six people and the cat. Maybe Denji isn't fast enough and all 6 people and the cat die.>Instead, Denji simply told Cockroach to fuck himself, killed it, let everyone die without even caring about who they were and bragged about his non-choiceOkay but the fire devil being pissed at Denji for letting the brother die over a cat feels hallow since the fire devil seemed fine with the death devil killing fakesaw man and turning him into her pawn. Also fakesaw man him helped Denji out during the falling devil arc so the fire devil's line that fakesaw man "lived for revenge" is a total lie or Fujimoto retconning shit(unless you want to go into the idea of there being one them one non zombie fakesaw man which leads into a different can of worms).
>>285534222Hardly matters when Asa clearly hates her guts
>>285527251Part 1 has RezePart 2 has AsaIt's pretty easy to understand why shart poo is a failure
>>285534304I refuse to believe this
Troonzefags getting uppity again
>>285534274>While I agree that it was an awful conundrum saving that he was forced into two choices isn't accurate. Maybe Denji could have saved all six people but the cat dies. Maybe somehow Denji saves all six people and the cat. Maybe Denji isn't fast enough and all 6 people and the cat die.I mean, the cat was never an option. He made it up as an option specifically to brag about his unwillingness to get along with the binary choice.Also, the circumstances Cockroach offered him were specifically tailored, in the style of a trolley problem, so that he could only pick one of the groups. It wanted Denji to suffer the pain of discarding the other choice.>(unless you want to go into the idea of there being one them one non zombie fakesaw man which leads into a different can of worms).Kek, I actually got somewhat interested in this theory recently, but I don't know how/when this original Fakesaw Man would reappear.I've read suggestions that it was actually Yoshida, because of his design (it somewhat resembles his PS battle outfit) and the way he held Yuko (it somewhat resembles the way his Octopus grabs things).
I think Asa would take Denji dying on her better than Denji would take Asa dying on him.
>>285533581>(Ursula is a better match for Peter than Raimi MJ but that's an entirely different subject and she wasn't even in 1).I had to look up who Ursula is because I had no idea who that was.
I don't think Fire Devil was telling the whole truth about it's motivations when it confronted Denji.We are being led to believe that it's angry at Denji for letting the younger brother die and for not making a choice but I think it's more complicated than that.Fire Devil was making contracts with Humans well before the Cockroach Devil incident happened and it was present as the Justice Devil was Asa got killed by the class prez and possesed by Yoru.Hell, the class prez only tripped Asa in the first place because the Fire Devil told her to.And not to mention how the Fire Devil was clearly manipulating Fakesaw to kill Fami by telling him she was the Death Devil.And Fire Devil also had Fakesaw, or another Chainsaw Man copy, save Asa/Yoru and Denji from Falling despite that being in opposition to Death Devil's plans.
>>285529834Holy Kino
>>285534567>I mean, the cat was never an option. He made it up as an optionThe cat was hanging off the building for its life so yeah saving the cat was its own option. It's like going to a restaurant where they directly give you the option for a cherry soda but you can still ask for one and they would add some cherry flavoring into the soda of your choice.>Kek, I actually got somewhat interested in this theory recently, but I don't know how/when this original Fakesaw Man would reappear.I would like to read about that. Can you explain your theory to me in either this thread or the next one?>>285534655Daughter of the RENT MAN from 2&3>>285534731>I don't think Fire Devil was telling the whole truthNo shit. The fire devil already lied or lied by omission when it came to being known as the justice devil. I ain't believing that bitch like how I don’t believe Asa Mom's when it came to murdering Asa's Dad.
>>285532369Scholar
>>285532421>Him failing to save Asa would generally be a lame thing honestlyBut isn't that basically the core of Denji's character? Winning, but not actually feeling like a winner? I mean, tell me one IMPORTANT fight he won that truly brought him real satisfaction.
>>285532488>If Asa dies then what the fuck was even the point of Part 2? I could say the same about Nayuta.
>>285535159That's the thing, I don't think he'll fail to save Asa, if anything I think he just won't be able to get the ending he wants. To me the lame thing would be a waste of Asa's character to make her one more trauma loss for Denji, I'm imagining that the ending will be rather bittersweet.
>>285535159>Winning, but not actually feeling like a winner?Denji is literally me except I've never won a single thing in my goddamn life. Based
>>285532665After Nayuta's death, it should be obvious to people that Fujimoto doesn't care about killing characters just to generate cheap shock value and sacrificing the story itself for it.
>>285533255I feel like it mainly comes down to insecurity, she wants to feel her worth, that's how she gets her weapons even, it's from the feeling of owning someone after having beaten them. She's in love with Denji but perceives him as less than a threat, she just loves playing with his feelings because it excites her, kind of like a Makima but with a feeling of distorded love instead of distorded hatred.In Part 1, he defeated Makima by overcoming her expectations and acting from his own will to outsmart her. In Part 2, since he can't just outright kill her, I feel like we'll get a similar ending to their fight (AKA Denji winning despite their will to fight Chainsaw Man), but here he'll do so more emotionally. Kind of like an "you wanna own me, so I will own you", using a kiss to do that after all the times she unconsensually kissed him would be beautiful to me.
>>285535211>I'm imagining that the ending will be rather bittersweet.They love each other but can't be together. That'd be a new type of loss for Denji, one that doesn't involve death or rejection.
>>285534814I have to say my initial reaction to the latter one was literally just>Uh, I guess the first design was a placeholder.
>>285535159>But isn't that basically the core of Denji's character? Winning, but not actually feeling like a winner?This is dumb because that is not what core of Denji's character is about, only few fights that Denji won where he doesn't feel like a winner due the opponent he faced, because with the rest is laughing at them and mocking them.
>>285535492I felt like I missed something for the most part, but like, has the Fakesaw Man plot gotten abandoned or something? Felt like a high stakes one at the start of Part 2, maybe it'll just get solved once Yuko becomes a talking point again.
>>285532987>>285533174The main lesson Denji needs to learn is that life is precious. He let several people die and lost Nayuta partly due to his own negligence, but he acts as if he can replace her. He NEEDS to learn this lesson. Perhaps if he sees Asa dying in front of him, he will learn to be more responsible and mature enough to understand that the lives of loved ones, or even strangers, cannot be replaced.
>>285533229If a Part 3 doesn't happen, Fujimoto is truly retarded.
>>285535751Asa being happy to die for him might fuck him up a bit. Unlike Blood or any of the devils Asa's death would be permanent.
>>285535751>partly due to his own negligenceAlmost as if he had been neglected for his entire life himself and had no one to teach him basic human concepts. With what he went through it's a miracle he's still relatively sane, just traumatizing him more won't properly teach him anything, he needs someone to look up to.
>>285535657The first time we saw a Fakesaw Man, it was the skeleton. Denji beat him and Fire Devil popped up.
>>285533317>>285533404People who think Part 2 will end with Denji being happy after letting his little sister die and even saying he can replace her whenever he wants are incredibly naive.
>>285535945I doubt C3 will know that, it's not like she was on his shoulder when Denji tried to fuck whores and got beaten off by Yoru.
>>285535909*LastAnyway, that picture was part of the "OG Fakesaw Man is actually Yoshida" theory.
>>285535945It's what he himself wants to believe. With the current context in the story there just is no time to sit back and miss her, he's on so much constant adrenaline that it's as if he was shooting himself with morphin, once things calm down the regrets will start forever creeping in.
>>285535751I don't think the main lesson is "that life is precious" because it doesn't go with a character like Denji, instead it's mainly that stop being a dumbass chasing fame of being a hero and choose his own path instead others limit his path.
>>285536018Yeah, Nayuta just barely died in world and Denjiman is dealing with the literal apocalypse. It may have been a long time to us but it's only been hours for Denji.
>>285533751I love Denji, but he HAS to suffer for what happened to Nayuta.
>>285536057>only been hoursThe concept of time is a bit weird in Part 2, not sure about how much time passed.
>>285535211>To me the lame thing would be a waste of Asa's character to make her one more trauma loss for DenjiIt's Nayuta's situation again, do you really think Fujimoto is going to miss the opportunity to traumatize Denji again, only this time by teaching him a "lesson"?
>>285536189Asa was introduced and treated as a main character for basically all of Part 2, I REALLY doubt that she'll just die.
>>285535440>They love each other but can't be together.1: Denji doesn't love Asa2: This would just be a copy of Reze's arc
>>285536250>This would just be a copy of Reze's arcNo? Reze rejected Denji and stood him up, as far as he knows.
>>285535883Yeah, it would be kind of similar to Aki's death.
>>285536231Just because she's one of the main characters doesn't mean she's exempt from death. Nayuta wasn't one of the main characters, but her relationship with Denji was central to the story. This was established at the end of Part 1, but I think we already know what happened...
>>285536273Denji doesn't know, but we do; she and Denji couldn't be together because Makima "killed" her.
>>285536414It's honestly impressive how she had so much potential as a character due to being the former main antagonist's reincarnation and then fuji the hack just kills her unceremoniously. fucking hell dude
>>285536490The irony being that her death was caused by Barem. It's Makima's sins that led to her death to some degree, Control tried to have a normal life but it just wasn't possible, and Denji indirectly lost to Makima again due to being unable to be mature and protect her. Her death sucks because I really loved her, but it feels like a somewhat. necessary one.
>>285536490Yeah, like, her relationship with Denji was the core of Chainsaw Man; she wasn't just Denji's family, but also one of the reasons Denji kept going. I at least hope her death has a deeper meaning than "oh, how sad... well, whatever, I'll get another family anyway."
>The year 1999, seventh month,From the sky will come a great King of Terror:>To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,>Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.Nayuta's coming back, that or Makima.
>>285536569>but it feels like a somewhat. necessary one.I think so, but it depends on how Part 2 ends. If Denji lives happily ever after as if nothing happened, her death will be felt. It also depends on what role Conquest 3 will play in a possible Part 3.
>>285536674>Control 3 is a big ass nigga from the mountainsits over
Las one for 'Kima.
