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GigaChad Demon made Frieren piss her pants for over 500 years
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Man went down like a boss
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Rod from God, bitch
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You guts weren't kidding, that demon had a nice bod
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>>285552798
Then she cooked up a plan to get the demon killed by a 78 year old man she had literally kicked in the ass just a few weeks earlier
rip bozo lol
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what's the deal with that sword anyway?
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>>285553240
I guess it's something along the lines of:
> DIS SORD STRONK
> ME TAKE DIS SORD
> ME STRONK
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>>285553215
To be fair, it's a sneak attack from Denken. Macht can beat Frieren and Denken's asses at the same time lol and without another sneak attack from Fern, Solitar alone would kill Frieren
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>>285553288
>Macht can beat Frieren and Denken's asses at the same time
Without diagoldze? Not a chance, Frieren was going to solo him right there and then but switched to Solitar since she thought even Denken could handle him now he was defanged, and she was right

The issue with Macht was always just his curse, remove that and he's just another demon to zoltraak
That's exactly how things played out
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How do demons eat humans, do they grill them or something?
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>>285553184
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>>285553329
Wtf with this Frieren wanker lol. Denken won by a sneak attack, before that, Macht took 0 damages while fighting Denken. It's a fact. Frieren survived, by a sneak attack from Fern, before that, she was on the verge of death. It's also a fact. Stop wanking Frieren, loosers!
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>>285553393
Gotta love how Frieren isn't really a fanservice series but they give us subtle stuff like that
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Can demons.. uh even get pregnant. Or do they just grow out of the ground
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>>285553184
>>285553393
I'm glad the anime staffs are horny.
The manga lacks sex appeal.
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>>285553343
How could she eat a whole village?
One person should have enough calories for a week if you consume the whole body.
This makes no sense.
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>>285553423
>before that, Macht took 0 damages while fighting Denken. It's a fact
I've literally got the volume right infront of my, try actually reading the manga because it sounds like all your information came a Reddit summary post of some dumb speedreader.
Everything you are saying is incorrect

Frieren was no way near close to death either, the only time we ever see that is when Fern blasts her replica during the exam and she resorts to using her height of magic. That's close to death, not what she was doing Vs Solitar (tanking hits to buy time until she could drop her curse reversal nuke on Weise). She literally goes shopping the next day while Fern is in bed recovering from mana depletion
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>>285553443
I hope they'll sexualize Methode more.
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>>285553423
>Frieren cared more about doing magic calculus to fuck with Macht than actually giving a shit about Solitar.
Sorry lad, your demonfu was at the bottom of the list of shit she cared about.
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>>285553528
wow, so many damages that literally took no effect lol
>Frieren was no way near close to death either
>Tanking hits to buy time
Solitar broke through her mana shield like they're papers. I'm done with this wanker lol
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>>285553627
>went from Macht took 0 damage while fighting Denken to "lol doesn't count"
Of course you're done, you got rekt just like your demonfu kek.
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Frieren is overrated. A mere old man with a knife can kill her
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>>285553627
>I'm done with this
lmao
Read the manga ESLbro
You might actually find out what happens in it so you won't need to spout your fanfic version next time
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>>285553669
A bite from a mosquito, of course, (some) damage(s), but take 0 effect. That's equal 0 damage ;)
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>>285553759
Wtf with these wankers, I've read the latest chapters lol. Two sneak attacks, that's all. Beforethat, two one-side battles. That's all. Gtfo wankers lol
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>>285552798
>Has a near unbeatable curse
She needed a counter to his OP curse which she managed to come up with. At that point she was no longer afraid of him.
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>>285553843
Because the whole point is to display the resilience of humans and the fallacy that demons belief they are far superior, where they will constantly underestimate them to their own detriment. Frieren's whole gambit was to do something so audacious and game changing that it would make both demons concentrate on her, lose focus on the situation and then her trust in her companions would end it all in one fell swoop. And ofc this works and they both fall for her trick at once, because they are dumb demons and she is Frieren le Slayer.

Read The Manga, lol
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>>285553393
And then she took the biggest shit ever
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>>285553627
And Solitar only landed one shot on Frieren. Frieren returned the favor and reversed her own spell on her.
Solitar did have a bit of an advantage with a better defense and having studied Frieren while Frieren knew nothing of her.
Even so Frieren was not on the verge of death which is the original point. She just saw Solitar as another puzzle to solve, and she eventually found the solution to.
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>>285553694
>Mere old man
>Clearly very strong at his age
>Can conceal his mana entirely
He's not a mere old man.
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>>285553975
>can't argue anymore
>repeat "read the manga" bla bla...
For wanker(s): Learn To Read. End of Discussion. Also gtfo wankers lol
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>>285553566
So she likes cute things, right?
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>turns up
>picks a fight
>takes a nap
>wakes up
>picks another fight
>spouts her TDD manifesto
>destroy one of the seven wonders of the demon world and make the creator watch
>gets a former apprentice shoot him in the heart
>packs her case and leaves
Based elf-fu
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>>285554241
>gets a former apprentice shoot him in the heart
Come again?
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Come on guys, it's too clear in manga:
Frieren vs Solitar: If the fight continued (without Fern's help), Frieren would have been killed
Macht vs Denken: Macht was not serious from the beginning. But when his true power was shown, it's totally a roflstomp. Denken has absolute 0% chance to win
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>>285552798
>made Frieren piss her pants
Hot
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>>285553425
It's not anything new or special
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>>285554542
When fights get genuinely dangerous for Frieren she either runs (like when she lost to Qual and Macht the first time) or if she gets seriously hurt she will resort to using her height of magic (like her replica vs Fern and implied against the demon king)
Neither of these things happen, she gets a few superficial injuries from Macht + Solitar, but it's nothing compared to Fern or Denken who get injured more (but still not close to life threatening)

She's just double tasking anyway, Solitar kept wondering why she was holding back and not 'giving her all'
Dumb demon didn't realise she was running GLanalysis.exe in the background until it was too late, oh well
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>>285554542
>If the things didn't happen the results would have been different
But they did happen, that's the whole point.
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This show is so bland, how is it rated no.1?
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>>285553425
>isn't really a fanservice series
unless you're a footfag, then you're eating like a king
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>>285553184
>>285553240
>>285553343
>>285553393
What a babe.
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>>285555037
Because in this day and age, people need a slow and simple show to contrast with the insane amounts of plotslop, fan service, and manic characters.
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Why are you guys trying to wank mages in this series when it's been CONFIRMED that they all get no-diffed by Shadow Warriors?
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>Plot Warriors
ugh..
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Wait so what is this season going to cover if it's not reaching Macht?
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>>285554063
Small dicks aren't cute
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>>285553694
Frieren keeps saying how she's not that strong anyways so why do you act surprised.
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>>285552798
>over 500 years
i thought the last demon chad she fought was the Midas Touch guy? which should have been like ~20 yrs before he met Himmel,back when Denken was young.
>https://velteris.tumblr.com/post/737598172159967232/frieren-timeline-the-only-timeline-available-on

my bad. 520 years ago.
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>>285552996
I'm pretty sure Hero of the South only went down because Schlacht and he mutually nullified each other's power.
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why is she fat now?
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>>285555225
I mean, Shadow Warriors are their hard counter.
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>>285555969
HOTS wanted to defeat the demonlord, Schtick wanted peace with humans just like demonlord. they both thought killing each other there was the best timeline. most likely HOTS prediction "won" since his prediction of the future hero+frieren defeating the demonlord came true. or maybe killing the demonlord was needed to bring peace between humans/demons.
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>>285555708
Everything before then
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Frieren really feels like watching Aria all over again.
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>>285556053
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>>285555993
The reddit drawing looked better than this
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>>285555037
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Frieren hadn't yet resorted to her desperation move against Soltaire, she decided she'd rather see if Stark and Fern were alive instead of risking her ultimate attack in case Soltaire survived
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>>285553240
You wouldn't get it
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Ok, some pointless argument above. If you can win by your own power alone, you don't need help from others. If you can kill your enemy directly, you don't need land a sneak hit
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>>285555037
>in-universe powerscaling
>pretentious plotline
>generic jokes
>basic characters
>lots of flashbacks (people LOVE these for some reason)
>fights with shonen logic
>a fucking tournament arc
it's a pleb pleaser
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>>285553184
You can tell they animated this with their cocks
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>>285553466
Demons are not people with metabolisms and normal bodies. Theyre monsters who can eat as much as they want
Why are you trying to apply human or animal biology to creatures made of magic?
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>>285556373
Those are some elf-pussy-loving faqs. In fact, after few clashes, Frieren realized that she couldn't win against Solitar. If not, she could kill her first, then analyzed el dorado later lol. The two had nearly same amount of mana, but Solitar's mana controling technique was far superior, on another dimension, compared to Frieren. "Holding back" my ass. Frieren made a bet, believed that Fern was still alive to come saving her ass, and she won the bet. About Denken, he is Macht's students, so he has some advantages: He knows most of Macht moves (I bet he took dozens of years to analyze, to find any chances to win) but that's all. He was still got roflstomped by Macht when he released his full power
I freaking hate wankers lol
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Do they ever satisfactory explain why monsters and demons turn to dust or is it just lazy world building like the rest of the show
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>>285553843
>>285554241
>>285555037
is a Battle Shounen, people love battle shounens
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>>285553393
>"Honey, I'm preg..."
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Why are people saying Frieren only got mad at the demon because it was making Fern and Stark close their eyes and be vulnerable? I thought it was because it was disrespecting Fern's faith.
Like, frieren learned to respect/appreciate her faith after those 6 months they spent in the cabin, she even prayed for the villagers after.
Was that not it?
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There is no way sentient beings that are capable of political intrigues, weapons and magic don't understand the concept of "father'.
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>>285557337
Who gives a fuck, the world building in this is worse than average shit isekai but characters and their interactions are 10/10.
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>>285559143
In our world we have feminists, it's same.
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furiren
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What do you mean it's only 10 episodes this season? They can't do this to me, I've waited patiently...
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>>285552798
The latest episode made pointless the entire series, Frieren didn't learn anything, she was just told what to do.
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>>285552798
Didn't it take Frieren like 100 years to recover from fighting Macht?
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>>285555993
Taking culinary advice from Fern.
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>>285554777
Yes, but Frieren himself admitted she wouldn't be able to beat Solitar by herself. I'm pretty sure there's a panel about it.
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>>285557019
>"Holding back" my ass.
Solitar literally says she knows Frieren was holding back
My ESL friend, please for your own sake, actually read the manga. You are lost.
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What an utter babe.
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>>285565241
So she's just gonna be the sexy belly demon in fanart now?
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>>285565101
>Frieren himself admitted she wouldn't be able to beat Solitar by herself.
No she didn't
She said she would need to be quicker and catch her off guard, but not the she could not do it. In fact that she could but acknowledging that it's really Fern's area of expertise.

She had figured it all out by that point, so she flipped the switch on the thing she was working on. Solitar was very clued up and she figured Frieren was plotting something but the something was so nuts she couldn't even comprehend anyone would consider doing it in the middle of a fight.
And so, one more dead demon.
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>>285565241
Not complete without Stark's addition.
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>>285566599
I'm pretty sure after the battle there's a panel of Frieren admitting she wouldn't be able to beat Solitar without Fern's help.
Also, there was one at the beginning of the fight as well, if I'm not mistaken.
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>>285567115
>after the battle there's a panel of Frieren admitting she wouldn't be able to beat Solitar without Fern's help.
If you are referring to this panel then not really. She acknowledges she couldn't have won without them, but since Stark wasn't involved in defeating Solitar it's unlikely she means that fight specifically
More the collective efforts which allowed her to restore the Golden Lands (ofc defeating the demons was part of that), but together Fern and Stark did allow Frieren the time she needed to finish analysing Macht's memories by engaging with Solitar when the villages were trying to escape

>Also, there was one at the beginning of the fight as well
There was not
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>>285565500
And what is wrong with that?
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Frieren reminds me of Alucard in how she approaches fights.
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love how everyone going crazy over the Hero of the South.

meanwhile himmel one upped him by taking on several of them. BLIND.
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>blow up the corpses into dust with magic
>HAH YOU ATE THEM DIDN'T YOU
Why is Frieren like this
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>>285569442
Blind and deaf. He literally just had a faint sense of touch and still fought full his full strength and dexterity. It's honestly the most impressive physical feat in the series.
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>>285569631
you should pat her on the head for not landing the first shot on the accused
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>>285552798
>Winter Storm Fern leaves South Florida airports packed with travelers dealing with cancellations, delays
>it's actually real
>https://wsvn.com/news/local/miami-dade/winter-storm-fern-leaves-south-florida-airports-packed-with-travelers-dealing-with-cancellations-delays/
wtf...
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>>285554012
Wrong series, anon. That's Nighthog.
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>>285569817
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>>285569858
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>>285569891
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Average episode of Frieren:
"Looks like it'll be a while until the next town we should buy some extra bread while we're here"
"sounds good"
"damn the price of bread sure has gone up"
*finds destroyed caravan*
"Looks like some monster on the road destroyed this caravan"
*monster*
That's a ball-tickling earth dragon, they hate the sound of wheels on the ground it must have been the one who did this"
*sakuga slop*
"This reminds me of Hero Himmel"
"Wow sure glad that's over with"
*sees bread covered in dragon mucus*
"Guess we gotta make a detour again"
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>>285570122
Sounds like a based episode
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>>285570139
Based on what?
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>>285570183
based on Fern's hairy bush
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>>285570122
being able to abstract the formula faces you with the real test of whether you genuinely enjoy something. even when storywriting magic is seen through.
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>>285567948
Tbqh, I think you are overrating Frieren too much. Sure she's strong, but many times during the fight she acnowledges that if she keeps the mana blasting fight against Solitar, she would lose.
WIthout Fern's surprise attack, I can't see Frieren winning.
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>>285556152
Frieren's secret move wouldn't have saved her against Solitar.

> telekinetically pin Solitar to the ground with overwhelming pressure
> Solitar cannot move or defend herself against the attack
> She can, however, still summon and propel magic swords with her mind

It literally wouldn't have done anything of value. It's a poor matchup.
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>>285570257
>I think you are overrating Frieren too much.
By posting manga panels and direct quotes?
>many times during the fight she acnowledges that if she keeps the mana blasting fight against Solitar, she would lose.
She acknowledges the dangers of a battle of attrition many times in the manga. Saying 'i can't trade mana strikes against a monster like this forever' is not telling us a huge amount. It's very obvious extended fights against dangerous opponents are bad, chance of bad luck just accumulates. She says a hit to the wrong place could kill her, again another obvious statement for whoever you are taking about.
>WIthout Fern's surprise attack, I can't see Frieren winning
I said she worked out she needed to catch her by surprise, but she first said that it was herself that needed to be quicker and catch her off guard. Ofc she would think of Fern as being the one better suited to be the quick one, it's her thing, so Frieren set up the act to catch her off guard.
In the end she went with a similar method to how she defeated her replica, because it works.

The big thing that you are omitting is the fact that she is analysing the Golden Lands at the same time she is fighting her, this is not a fee action. It's magical analysis, so literal mana and mind draining activity, not to mention the amount of mana she would need to have reserved to cast a spell the size of nuclear blast radius. Fern gets zonked out by casting one Zoltraak+
Basically, she went with short term pain for long term gain, and it paid off because it worked as the ultimate trump card. Even Solitar thinks she's nuts for doing it, which is saying something.

All this isn't headcanon, or fan theory btw. It's just what we are shown and told happened.
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YOU GAVE ME WHOLE GRAIN
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>>285571237
No man, you are interpreting it in a way it fits the imagery you want it to be.
I love Frieren, but she's clear enough in that fight that she's weaker than Solitar, and that's ok.
Never once Frieren even hinted she, alone, could defeat her.
She doesn't need to be stronger than everyone. In fact, she's more interesting when she isn't, and I command the author for not putting an invincible character even in the context of the series (after the main quest).
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>>285571423
Yeah. Frieren is an exceptional mage due to her mana and experience, but she didn't defeat the Demon King. Himmel defeated the Demon King, Frieren just helped.
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>>285571684
WIth the exception of maybe Serie and the HotS, no one could beat the DK alone. Himmel delivered the final blow, that's most likely, and perhaps he give the most damage to the DK, but Frieren certainly helped a lot in a way it would be impossible to defeat the DK without her.
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>>285571423
>No man, you are interpreting it in a way it fits the imagery you want it to be.
lol, yet I'm the one posting only direct manga quotes and panels. You are not posting any however, funny that.
>clear enough in that fight that she's weaker than Solitar, and that's ok.
Not once stated or implied, you get a line saying they have comparable mana and that's about it. She remarks how good her mana control is but the actual way the fight plays out is very back and forth, once she stops suppressing her mana and mana striking back Solitar never regains the upper hand
>Never once Frieren even hinted she, alone, could defeat her
She says multiple times that she will kill her, at least three times before and during the fight. There is no doubt in her mind, like she has no doubt Denken will win too
>She doesn't need to be stronger than everyone
And she's clearly not, that is not my point
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>let's use magic to clean this bronze statue
>all the patina is still there they just gave it a rinse with water or some shit
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>>285571769
Yes. Every member of the heroes party was essential. It wouldn't have worked without all of them.
What I think we are both agreeing on, however, is that Freiren isn't a powerwank character archetype where "Because I defeated the demon king already, nothing else in this world poses a threat to me I'm already too strong I beat the end boss 80 years ago."
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>>285571845
>magic to remove rust from bronze
<bronze doesn't rust
What were they thinking
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>noo you mustn't touch the bread with your hands it's unhygienic
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>>285552996
>1v8
>killed 4
Yep, MVP.
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>>285565500
Yes, please.
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>>285571806
I'm not the anon you were discussing with, and I'm lazy enough to reread that fight.
I'm just saying that nothing indicates she could have won by herself, and you didn't really show anything to convince me. Especially after the fight goes on, when Frieren becomes surprised by Solitar's strenght and that end panel where she actualyl admits it (and you try to interpret it in a way to fit your opinion).
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>>285553240
>>285556229
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>>285571984
>Fern looking at more sweets
Someone stop that fatso
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>>285571911
I agree with you. And frankly I'm inclined to think Himmel was the strongest in his party and probably did the most damage ot the DK, but Frieren wasn't at all a fodder, and contributed greatly, in a way without her = no win.

I'm glad the author is still creating Demons or Assassins to pose a threat to Frieren, especially now she doesn't have an OP party to help her.
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>>285571845
>>285571981
Some anon said she actually removed the oxide from the statues until someone complained the oxide layer actually protects the bronze from degradation, so now she just cleans the dirt off. Can't find where that's stated though.
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>>285571984
Japanese traiditon, please understand.
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>>285571806
>I'm the one posting only direct manga quotes and panels.
That doesn't help you, when you cant understand what is happening on them.
Frieren would certainly die to Solitar if she was alone.
She couldn't penetrate Solitars defence.
She couldn't deflect Solitars attacks.

Denken would certainly die even to phase 1 Macht, if he was not training for that phase his whole life (Macht as trainer included).
And in phase 2 he instantly loses.
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>>285572238
>Japanese traiditon
More like actual hygiene.
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>>285572223
>Can't find where that's stated though.
it was revealed to him in a dream, as is customary with Frieren worldbuilding defense force
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>>285572121
>that end panel where she actualyl admits it
Admits what? That's she couldn't have won without Fern and Stark? Because this is a huge reach to suggest she's specifically taking about Solitar there.
It's the final chapter of the arc, the win for the arc was always - defeat Macht and restore the Golden Lands because this is what Frieren agreed to help Denken do. If you think THE win in her eyes is killing a secondary demon over helping Denken restore the home of his lost wife then I'm sorry but you should read the arc again, her emotional motivation is quite clearly connected to that

Plus like I said she is not going to be thanking Stark for something he didn't do, another huge reach to suggest this.
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>>285552798
Is Freieren a Mary Sue?
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>>285572424
Even if it's not in the story, it makes sense. That's the reason we don't clean those statues in real life.
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>>285572464
Not at all, there's many things she can't do by her own.
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>>285572315
>Frieren would certainly die to Solitar if she was alone.
But she didn't, lol. What a dumb statement
>She couldn't penetrate Solitars defence
She did multiple times with mana strikes and later in the fight she worked out how to get the killing blow, highly concentrated Zoltraak but needed to catch her off guard. It's was just a question of how and when. She would have killed her first shot if Fern hadn't tried that move on Solitar already, so she inadvertently made it harder for her.
>She couldn't deflect Solitars attacks
She didn't need to when she stopped suppressing her mana as she could then start easily dodging them instead

Are either of you actually going to try and make a substantive point? because this is alot of 'erm no' tier stuff
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>>285558711
>simultaneously the most boring nothing-happens series and a battle shonen
Contrarians are so funny, they can't even agree on why they hate it
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>>285572795
>But she didn't
Because she wasn't alone.
That was a war of attrition, where she would certainly loose.
And the whole point of Solitars character was extreme caution, she was certain to win.
>needed to catch her off guard
Because she couldn't penetrate Solitars defense.
That is why her only chance was to wait for the moment when Solitar would want to die and lower her defense.
>stopped suppressing her mana as she could then start easily dodging
Thats a good example of completely idiotic conclusions.
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>>285573302
>Because she wasn't alone
>And the whole point of Solitars character was extreme caution
>her only chance was to wait for the moment when Solitar would want to die
Literally and unironically, wtf are you babbling about here? Lmao

>idiotic conclusions
It is exactly what happens in the manga
-Frieren gets beat around
-Solitar says 'Frieren you should give it your all i know you are suppressing your mana'
-Frieren them stops suppressing her mana (very clearly visually communicated)
-immediately starts dodging previously undogdable attacks
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>demons are evi-
ACTUALLY THEY ARE JUST MISUNDERSTOOD I CAN FIX HER AAHHHH
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>>285571769
Interestingly enough, Heiter said Frieren beat him. "She told me she'd beat Demon King, and so I trusted she would, and so she did". Serie also considers her specifically as the one who killed her before Frieren says that everyone was necessary (and Serie seems to be somewhat privy to the confrontation as she at least knows DK saw through her mana ruse). Flamme also claimed Frieren would be the one to kill him. Though obviously it can be spun multiple ways. Who defeated Macht? Who defeated Böse? The main job was done by Frieren in bith cases, but she didn't deliver the final blow nor did she deal the most damage.
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/a/ is a demon board
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>>285574172
Frieren herself said multiple times that it was Himmel who killed the DK, though it was obvious it was a team effort.
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this shit is so ass
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>>285574627
Regardless of who would deliver the killing blow, saying Himmel killed him would have been entirely fair, it was his party acting on his orders.
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>>285574627
To be fair, Frieren says a LOT of shit that turns out to not be true. Especially where herself is concerned. Her evaluation of events is often not to be trusted.
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>>285574355
Was she strong? Seemed like she would've killed Fern solo which is better than most demons.
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Reminder that if Aura tried to mind control teen Heiter, he'd have outpowerleveled her easily.
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You know, nobody is ever considering the amount of brain storage capacity a long lived creature like an elf would need in order to remember its entire life.
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I love Karen
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>>285574875
Why would she lie about this?
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>>285574172
>>285574627
To be fair
Pretty much every time we see Himmel fight hes a fucking monster
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>>285556600
As above, so below. Satiation is a metaphysical quality as well as a biological one. If a demon requires an entire village to be sated then the entire demon race would quickly go extinct from starvation.
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>>285552798
I finally finished S1. Haven't started S2.
I loved episodes 1-6. Didn't care for episodes 7-15. Really liked episodes 16-28.
Mathone is best girl by a long shot.

It took me months to get through episodes 11-13 in particular.
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>>285575419
Freiren doesn't lie about the other shit she says, she's just *wrong*. Like when she tells people she doesn't hate demons, she only kills them out of necessity, and then literally every time we see here kill a demon she goes out of her way to make it personal.
Or how she says she only likes magic "somewhat" but obsessively collects spells.

Frieren doesn't think she is lying. But her words do not match her actions.
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>>285575650
Why would she be wrong? It doesn't make sense besides some headcanon.
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>>285552798
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5m1bfVUfSQ
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>>285575705
Freiren and Serie are both clearly bad at introspection. It must be an elf thing, because their statements about their emotional attachments to things and what can be plainly observed are frequently out of line with each other.
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>>285567115
>elf whose whole existence is centered about her strength and abilities to catch demons off guard lies
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>>285575586
>Mathone
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>>285575732
I don't know why but I would've figured she'd be at least a decent cook.
Logically though, she did admit she's clumsy, so of course she'd suck at it.
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>>285575791
Anon, you're just presuming things.
>>285575931
Why would she lie about *this*?
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>>285556033
Schlong knows about the current future since he wasn't surprised by timetraveling Frieren and even said that everything that has happened is for the sake of the demons of 1000 years in the future so there's some convoluted keikaku going on.
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>>285553184
>>285553393
I want to put a baby in her.
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>>285556033
>they both thought killing each other
He brought Macht with him. Both of them are alive.
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Why does Schlick want peace? Is he a hunan fetishist?
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>>285576557
He understands that eventually humans will get lucky enough times to exterminate the demons like we have every relevant predator irl in places with real civilizations.
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>just found out there's only 2 arcs left
wtf is the anime going to do? They have 1 season left at best.
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>>285576410
how do demons reproduce?
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>>285577028
End on Ishtar BTFO Gil and just S2 never
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whys the new season only 10 episodes wtf
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so whatever happened to the blind boy
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Well I don't support AI so it's time to drop the show
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Everyone here, just ignore those elf-pussy-licking wankers. They can't read, they can't even think, they don't use their brains lol. Don't wasting your time for those retards
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>>285579009
death by demon coochie
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>>285555993
Please understando 10 episode sandbagged season because we are very very tired.
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>>285578550
Several reasons:
Smaller show orders are quicker to fill, so they could get back on the air after S1 did numbers faster this way.
Adapting it slower means they can drip feed the adaptation for more money.
These two things synergize meaning they need less people to work on the show, again saving time and money.

Adapting in smaller chunks sets up movie arcs for even more money.
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Why is Fern so cold?
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>>285569817
Continental fern?
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>>285573029
It can be both, and it is.
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>>285556600
>Why are you trying to apply human or animal biology to creatures made of magic?
He's trying to figure out how much they can poop

>>285557337
They're made of mana, not flesh.
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>>285581157
Zoltraak.
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>>285576071
She probably has the recipe to make a good meal, but doesn't use them cause she goes on feels.
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>>285579967
>ESL speedreader who can only post incorrect headcanons signed of with, fact!, saying others can't read or use their brain

I bet you haven't once considered why Frieren would be thinking about how she going to feel after Solitar's death, in the middle of a fight you claimed she didn't think she would win, kek
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>>285575441
Still weaker, slower and less durable than Eisen. Himmel's strong as fuck, but that's not his main forte.
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>>285552798
Was the stomach and jawline shot really necessary? Pointless fan service.
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>>285578550
An important factor might be the manga being in hiatus hell since before even the first anime season. Whereas the first season covered 60 chapters realeased over the span of 15 month, you'd need to go almost 4 years back to get the last 60 chapters (currently we're at 147, chapter 88 was March 30, 2022). So two cour-seasons are just not sustainable at this rate if you don't want long gaps in-between. I suppose ideally they'd like enough material for S3 by the time S2 ends, and that's just not possible if you burn through what you have quickly. Now to explain why it's specifically 10 and not more traditional 12-13, the answer's fairly simple. Right after these 10 episodes, a longer arc, as long as the Exam, starts. And it has no reasonable stopping point early on.
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>>285555037
It's enjoyable if you turn your brain off
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I'll take an 152cm one
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>>285582922
aura spinoff anime series
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>>285555037
cute feet
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>>285579009
supper
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>>285552798
what, like nonstop? I wish I could have been there...
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>>285583866
a Golden age so to speak
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>>285553975
this series would never work as a manga, the OST and pacing of life that animation brings is essential to it bein go worth anything at all
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>>285583913
>this series would never work as a manga
>is a popular enough manga for years before the anime to warrant a high budget adaptation in the first place
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>made it into another jarman episode
i'm just too funny
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>>285584361
Thicc
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>>285584361
anon... stop.... she's an evil demon that will literally eat you
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>>285553393
Hot
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>>285584361
sexo demon
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>>285584361
you'd think wearing a headgear/hood would be a huge taboo in the frieren universe
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>>285581637
Anime only here. I read all your comments (and other's replies to yours) above, I don't mind spoilers. So basically, these things happened: Frieren was stronger than a demon, could kill her anytime if she wanted. But she didn't do that (or didn't want to). She did ABC, XYZ,... to not kill her demon enermy. She kept dodging, waited some help from Fern. Fern was the one who killed that demon. Was it because she didn't want her hands stained with that demon's blood? That's why she let Fern do it? If these things are true, Frieren behaves totally out of her character here. These sound like a very cheap and bad shounen writing imo
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>that thumbnail
heh
>>285584361
You can tell the quality of the episode content by the comments
Besides demon tummy it was low average
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>>285554726
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>>285552798
How much piss can an elf hold
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>>285555037
Its still ongoing so people can delude themselves into thinking the ending will be good, the same strategy Light Novels use.
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>>285585073
>spelling fantachi instead of letting jarman translate it
i like that joke
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>>285585071
>Frieren was stronger than a demon, could kill her anytime if she wanted. But she didn't do that (or didn't want to).
No she could not do it at any time, she had to figure her out first. Basically what the win condition was before. She's not coming into these situations just all guns blazing, it's not her thing

She was definitely stronger mage overall, but not necessarily in raw power. Really it's came down to her superior experience and general ability to solve problems, along with willpower.
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>>285570122
Name 5 episodes.
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>>285585243
>Willpower
Still sound like a cheap shounen shit here. Why didn't she just kill that demon by herself? If she's indeed stronger? Why needed help from Fern? To my understanding, if you can't kill your foe by yourself, you can't be considered stronger. For exp, Frieren or Himmel can't be stronger than Demon King, because she or he can't kill him alone. Simple logic
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>>285585135
More than a human.
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>>285585412
She was preoccupied trying to do something else with magic unrelated to her fight
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Frieren having sex with Stark so he doesn't embarrass himself when he has sex with Fern.
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>>285585073
>Clueless White shitposter SHOCKS locals with perfect Japanese
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>>285585412
NTA but not necessarily. Frieren powerlevels do not work in Bleach-like logic where stronger power level means you can't be hurt by a weaker character. So you can conceivably be killed by a weaker character by bad luck or miscalculation. You always have probability to win, like in real life. If your chance to win is, say, 3 out of 4 (number taken out of my ass, just to illustrate the point), most people would agree you're stronger, but there's a fair chance you lose. So for a careful character like Frieren who does not enjoy fighting in itself, it makes sense to get help if it allows you to win a fight quickly.
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>>285584667
Does she start from the dick?
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>>285585412
Her and Fern always work together, Fern was the better option. She will play to her strengths, exploit weakness even in ways others might consider cowardly and flee if necessary, she has no shame in this. As Eisen says an overly proud warrior often ends up a dead one.
You have to remember this is a character who defeats their opponents mostly by tricking them into underestimating her (what Flamme taught her) or by superior teamwork (what the hero party taught her) and yes sometimes just having superior willpower and belief (what Himmel taught her). She uses all these in the fight

So just looking at in terms of raw, can I blow this opponent to smitherines terms, misses the point of her characters. She was not Series apprentice, she was Flamme's.
And you can argue the definition of strength all you like but the manga spells out what that means and regardless, of the mages that are around in the current story she is by far the most effective

Plus as >>285585473 says she was legit preoccupied prepping her trump card anyway, but even if she wasn't the above points all stand
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>>285585473
Why did she do that? With no purpose, while fighting her foe? Still very out of character here. Frieren is the one who will try eveything to kill demon, she will find any chance to kill them. This is becoming more and more shounen shit. "I can kill you, but I want to toy around with you". Frieren is not that type of stupid shounen protags
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>>285585602
There's a context to the fight that you would know from reading the chapter but that I do not want to spoil for you.
There's an unbeatable demon that turns things into gold that's in a separate fight a short ways away. The gold is referred to as a 'curse' because nobody has figured out a way to reverse it. Frieren, because she was allowed to read the demon's mind earlier while having tea with it, has seen the curse cast from its perspective thousands of times and has been working out a way dispel it entirely for the past day or two. If she manages that, the unbeatable demon loses its fight, Fern and Stark are freed from the curse and can reinforce her, the entire town and its surroundings are free, and an unknown number of others who had been imprisoned are free.
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>>285585599
Sorry. Still sound very stupid for me. "I can kill her, but you are better option, so, kill her for me". Very stupid, indeed. I think I'm done if Frieren's character is this level of nonsense and inconsitence
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>>285585073
>no footnote for that Clanker means
i guess the hatred for AI is worldwide
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>>285585767
Wasn't Frieren already able to de-curse it from the beginning? She figured out how to degoldify herself in the past and that's why she was trying to pick a fight with Macht early on to see if she could do it in real time.
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>>285585848
She had figured it out, but she needed more time to do it on a wider scale than a single person.
It's actually the last thing she says before she starts the fight and first thing she says when she defeats Solitar is 'ive finished analysing it'
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>>285585767
So that's mean she couldn't kill her foe by herself, or she couldn't find any chance to win. She did that while fighting to need help from Stark and Fern. That's mean she can't be stronger than that demon, for my logic. You can't win your foe in a solo fighting, you can't be stronger lmao. That's all for me
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>>285585073
>the part about zebroids didn't make it to the video
What a shame, I thought it was interesting.
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>>285585948
Didn't Serie already state that the reason Frieren has taken out so many demons who were out of her league is due to trickery?
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>>285585948
It's a matter of priorities. If she doesn't finish Solitar fast enough while ignoring the gold then Macht wins his fight nearly unscathed and joins Solitar. Even if she does finish off Solitar quickly she won't have the time to dispel the gold between her death and Macht coming to kill her. She has to do both concurrently or gigademon Macht wins then leaves to do as he wants.
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I wonder if Macht had what it would've taken to be the new demon king
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>>285586001
Kind of, she's doesn't think Frieren is a particularly strong maga for her potential but she acknowledges she is effective at deceiving demons and making them drop their guard, which is what she causes both Macht and Solitar to do and how they get the win.
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>>285585023
Or taking your hat off to show that you aren't a threat could be the standard greeting if you're wearing one.
In any case hoods definitely wouldn't be a part of the attire of a priestess.
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>>285585073
>I wonder what overseas nikkis would think when they find out that there are a lot of JKs who like Mrs
That's obvious, JKs have always had shit taste.
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>>285553627
>moving the goalposts
just leave the thread and pretend it never happened because this kind of damage control attempt is embarrassing
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How did people even know how the HoTS died if Demons were the only ones there that survived the battle?
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>>285570122
>milet sings her heart out in the ED
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>>285586120
she's probably weaker cause she spends all her time chasing useless grimoires
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>>285586570
He killed few of them no? So he should kill them all to survive such encounter.
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>>285586434
thats why you need to correct them!
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>>285585073
Arent the season 1 JK graduated by now??
are we now getting laught at by OFFICE HAGS?
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>>285586724
But how did they know which demons fought? How did they know he slew Schlacht? Did the HotS leave some kind of note like, "gonna go fight the seven sages of destruction and schlacht, brb"?
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>>285586827
>gonna go fight the seven sages of destruction and schlacht, brb
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>>285586819
It's only been two years and a half since then, they would be JDs at worst, and some of them could still be JKs.
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>>285585948
Daily dreams of Frieren's wankers:
>Hey, Solitar, I'm holding my ass back, I'm analyzing el dorado... *keep getting beaten up so badly*...
>Ok, f*ck you, I'm not holding my ass back anymore! Hole my pussy-elf power!...*all attacks are blocked like they're nothing*
>Wtf! Fern! Come saving my ass... *Fern lands a sneaky highly-concentrated Zoltraak afar"
>*Pussy elf are charging a final blow* Hey, Solitar! I'm gonna tell you a final secret: "I'm holding my ass back entire time hehe" *kaboom* "I'm so strong hehe"
Bonus: Elf-pussy-licking fags logic:
>You absolutely can kill me, while I can't find any single chance to kill you by myself. But I'm still stronger mua..haha...
LOOOLLL
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>>285587297
Are you actually going to try and make a coherent point any time or do all you have to offer is yet more ESLbabble?
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>>285585845
there was one in the article version but I guess he didn't feel like adding it in the video
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>>285586819
don't worry aniki, they're just sexy JD now
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>>285587437
I posted them all above. There's nothing more to say. Solitar can kill that overwanked elf, but elf can't kill badass Solitar in any way by herself. Enjoy your dream, elf wankers haha
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>>285587624
Damn you're right bro, I concede. Let's both leave this thread now since these losers don't appreciate us.
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>>285587624
>Solitar can kill that overwanked elf
She clearly couldn't
Solitar strategy - keep blasting her until she stops moving (Failed)
Frieren strategy - get her to make a mistake so to catch her off guard (Success)

Also made sure to mock her right before she vaporises her, lmao
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>This Sale eater or whatever her name is looks tough! Let me fight her!
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Is there a summary of this novel anywhere?
I want to know about the demon shota
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>>285556147
that one doujin of hers is still the best Frieren doujin ever made.
Sadly it's too short
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>>285585073
Dear Jarman please give faceless 02 more spotlight, I like her voice the most
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>>285586819
>>285587531
These are good things
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>>285585073
I like Jarman but I got banned TWICE because I posted it on a thread last year.
Some people really hate fun
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>>285588517
anyone...
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>>285572171
Says the motherfucker who has a massive collection of magical swords for no explained reason.

He has no right to say anything bad about magical swords if he has that.
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Slop requests?
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>>285569817
>Watching Jarman while Fern is busy freezing the burgers
Comfy time
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>>285589623
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>>285569891
>>285589248
dumb hungry storm
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Why the north always gets comfy ice storms?
all i have to deal is with Fires and heat waves that only makes the spiders reproduce into overdrive
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>>285569817
>>285589248
that name HAS to be a deliberate reference
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>>285589163
>for no explained reason
Anon he literally explains it during the reveal
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>>285572795
Okay now I know you are deliberately trying to mislead people
The attack Frieren makes here does NO damage to Solitar and she NEVER penetrates her defenses after this admittedly nice counterattack.
>>285573578
So that is a bold-faced lie

Also to me it seems obvious that she is only countering the gold spell after that exchange, because that is when Solitar starts to notice that Frieren is keeping distance.

Not even the same anon here, I am not so sure Solitars is 'stronger' persay. But lying about what is in the pages is just sad.
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What's the in-universe explanation for Serie always being barefoot
(Obviously the real explanation is, well, coomers)
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>>285553240
Why wasn’t Fern able to detect her right away? I thought diggers never hide their mana
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>>285589246
Ubel with her hair down
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>>285590546
>diggers
Let's just call a spade a spade.
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Why are demons so autistic?
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>>285590205
>Frieren does NO damage to Solitar
>Except for the times she does
Was you attempting to make a point with this?
>Also to me it seems obvious that she is only countering the gold spell after that exchange, because that is when Solitar starts to notice that Frieren is keeping distance.
No this is your pure headcanon, as I said before
>Frieren right at the start of the fight says she needs to analyse the Golden Lands some more
>Solitar says she knows Frieren isn't giving her all is very early on
>Frieren states she will kill Solitar four times, all through the fight. Never in doubt.
>Frieren stating she needs more to *to think* midway through, not recover or avoid but use brain power on something other than fighting
This is actually what happened, not headcanon and and nonsensical opinion like you are making
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>>285590615
It's true to life
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>>285552798
If bro knew he was gonna die and knew Frieren joining Himmel would help them beat the demon lord why did he want her to travel with him?
Did he just wanna fuck her?
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>>285590546
>I thought diggers never hide their mana
Speedwatcher-kun...
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Why was Fern so dead-set against a potion that dissolves clothes, but fine with learning -- and using, on a comrade -- a spell to see through them?
Is this just the inherent hypocrisy of women?
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would aura have been phased about exposing her bare naked body to others? why did she choose to wear clothes? it's not like she was ever mingling with humans in order to lure them into a false sense of security over any humanity or anything
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>>285590562
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>>285556078
stop watching and wait for the next season/series of movies if you don't want a proper adaptation.
But you will miss something.
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>>285575732
Lil Ubel can't be this cute!
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>>285591284
Yes.
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>>285584361
LMAO whoever uploaded this to danbooru tagged it "sword demon hag"
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>>285591514
>>285589246
5 Lands, 1 Ubel.
Wirbel is the cameraman.
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>>285589246
Ubel and Land spooning in bed.
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>>285556229
>>285572171
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>>285588517
it's over...
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>>285592910
She's a literal pile of dust now lol.
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>>285593924
Less than that, they evaporate on death
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>>285553393
what happens if you rape a demon?
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>>285553393
>How to deal with accidentally impregnating a demon
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>>285553184
what does demon pussy taste like?
I wanna bury my face in this demon's belly and lick her pussy
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>>285594187
Humanity studied demon magic to arrive at Zoltrak. Do you think they captured demons to... experiment?
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>>285594293
someone had a very good time then
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>>285585073
Glasses-chan saying "FALCON PUNCH" is so cute!
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>>285594388
i want to falcon punch her so hard
meganes are built for ryona
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>>285593643
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>>285590666
That image of yours is the one exception I already entioned that you somehow skipped over
How nice of you
Anyway
Afterwards she never lands a single blow
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>>285594266
sulfur, char, and piss
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>>285594433
do not the meganekko
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>>285594786
I WILL SPECIALLY THE MEGANEKKO
AND I WILL FORCE THE TOMBOY ELF WATCH
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I once gooned so hard to Frieren that I entered into a state of GOON-TRANCE and when I finally woke up from it 4 days had passed, I had lost my job and my cat and my house plants died.
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>>285594514
>the one exception
Ok for (your) arguments sake, let's just pretend this panel doesn't exist either
>Afterwards she never lands a single blow
Neither does Solitar so I'm really not sure what point you are expecting to make with this.
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>>285585073
I got in multiple times with
>hornyposting
>shitposting
>actual discussion of the episodes or the show at large
>vaguely unrelated tangent about how vegans are retardes
I am a jack-of-all-trades poster. My posting is consistently high quality regardless of the content or context
Feels good man
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>>285594433
YAMERO!
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so frieren just a battle shonen here on out.
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>>285594940
Kill yourself.
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>>285588767
fake
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>>285552798
>>285555037
>>285556445
>>285570122
>>285587297
>>285587624
>>285594940
Retarded Tourists on Twitter and Reddit need to stop watching Anime.
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>>285553184
>eats a whole town
>doesnt take a shit as big as a town
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>>285595348
>consistently high quality
Anon...
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>>285595614
why?

>>285595777
why did you respond to me calling me a twitter tourist? because I have a primal feral urge to fuck tight elf pussy?
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>thread originally about the actual goddamn show
>some attention whore yells SQUEEE I WAS ON JARMAN
>thread turns into cloutchase baiting for ANOMYMOUS users trying to get their 15 minutes of "fame" on some random jap's channel
Shut the fuck up holy shit
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>>285585073
The demon love stems from how cute they are and their interesting personalities. You can compare it to Kirara-flavored moe anime where viewers fall for the extra-lesbian girl because she has real motivations instead of going to the afterschool club that gets forgotten after the CM.
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>>285595875
Anon there have been threads discussing the show all week and there will continue to be more threads over the next two months
Perhaps relax and take a break man
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>>285595859
>>285595614
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>>285595875
>anti Jarman while also baiting to be in his video
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>>285585135
They made a whole entire manga about this.
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>>285570122
comfy as fuck Ill be honest
you already can't take this shit seriously because every fighting group is a wizardry slop """""party""""" as OPPOSED to a historical "Lancee Fournie" so who GIVES A FUCKING SHIT
THIS IS A HEALING ANIME
ITS ABOUT THE COMFY JOURNEY YOU RETARDED FATHERLESS NIGGER
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>>285570122
kino
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>>285596463
It would be a rather poor Jarman bait, he normally doesn't include posts that are so overtly negative.
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Frieren is a gooner
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>>285585073
Reddit levels of bullshit fake positivity to make adsense money.
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Discussing power levels in this manga pointless because winning only depends only on plot armor. Regardless of how strong a strong a demon is, they'll make a single mistake getting distracted for 0.0000001 seconds and insta-die to the human. If it's human vs human neither one will die because humans don't die outside of flashbacks. This will happen every single time, not matter how outclassed the human is.
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>>285586570
They knew it because this series is poorly written.
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I thought the jarman cocksuckers were gone, we had 2 perfectly nice weeks without them...
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>>285599331
it's almost like the complete opposite of gundam
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>>285552798
What makes Himmel a hero and not a warrior? Has he ever used magic?
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Why did she do it?
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>>285600944
dubs
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Why only 10 episodes?
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>>285600996
more seasons = more money
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>>285600996
Apparently the next major arc would take longer than one cour to do properly at the pace they've set, so they can't do it as the second half of s2. They'd need a full season for it
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>>285601301
28 episodes like s1 would be more than enough to cover it
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the first two episodes were entirely unremarkable
I felt nothing while watching them and was completely uninvested
I don't know what the fuck happened
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>>285602231
You were intentionally filtered!
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>>285602231
To you perhaps, I liked them. The slower but methodical pacing has destroyed the minds of many a mongoloid.
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>>285603301
I have nothing against slow pacing, I liked the first season. These latest episodes were not only predictable in their writing but added multiple things to the worldbuilding that are net negatives without payoff.
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>>285574627
I can't believe that Himmel killed the Donkey Kong....
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>>285576410
Hasn't she eaten enough already?
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>>285602231
It doesn't help that is airing in a season where at least 8 other things have much better visuals and content.
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>>285603356
What can be worse wordbuilding than the "we can't access this new area without a loicence, time for a tournament arc" bullshit we had last season?
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>>285603731
The crystals that break the entire consistency of the world.
The random dude that told Frieren about the winning lottery numbers making any characterization pointless.
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>>285603855
Nope
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>>285569631
>Accuse the enemy of random bullshit in hopes of getting them to out themself
She learned from the best
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>>285571984
A mage could have discovered germ theory early.
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>>285599243
It's Jarman who curates it. If you want deeper shitpost you should make a version of the series yourself I guess.
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>>285601301
Same length as the 1st class mage exam arc. Does have more fighting scenes which they have to expand upon (some take up only a few panels in the manga). It'd be 10-12 episodes before they could cut off at the start of the time travel arc - which is probably the arc they're going to turn into a movie.
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>>285595184
I already showed you that this attack did no damage to Solitar. It pushed her back but thats about it.
My point is that it was a stalemate at best and Frieren thinks to herself that its not a stalemate she can maintain forever.

My question is that if she could just outright kill Solitar once she stops hiding her mana, why did she not do that first and focus on analyzing and reversing the gold fields later?

My second point is that you seem to wilfully misreading the manga to make Solitar appear weaker than she was.

I at least can admit that she would probably have died if Frieren fired the fast Zoltraak first before Fern
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>>285570122
Frieren doesn't really do adventuring well either, outside of it's battle shonen parts
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>>285606778
>My question is that if she could just outright kill Solitar once she stops hiding her mana, why did she not do that first and focus on analyzing and reversing the gold fields later?
This anon already answered it sufficiently >>285586104

>you seem to wilfully misreading the manga to make Solitar appear weaker than she was
Not once, Macht and Solitar being dangerous opponents are expressed and shown numerous times but the path to victory was never in doubt once Frieren finished analysing his memories. The most confident people in the room at that point are Frieren and Denken, Solitar's pondering her own death and Frieren is thinking how she will feel after she kills her. Never in doubt, the path to finding the win condition (for the entire situation) was just the final peace of the puzzle she knew she would solve.

But if you are going to just keep looking at this from a powerscaler mentality ofc you are going to overlook all the context
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>>285607085
Sure, but Frieren thinks in team work terms, Stark and Fern are pieces she can always use. She's a party leader, after all. You're too much of a frierenfag to notice the main theme of the character and the series which is quite ironic.
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>>285606489
Anon-kun theres only like 20 chapters
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>>285607259
>Frieren thinks in team work terms, Stark and Fern are pieces she can always use
The most obvious statement ever, again what point you expecting to make with pointing out the things everyone knows?
Literally said a hundred posts back that it is one of her main three methods of defeating opponents >>285585599

And as I said there, she uses all three of her main methods during this confrontation.
But you just don't seem to be able to get out of the 'how can I powerscale this?' mindset. Which is an incredibly reductive way to view these this series.
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>>285607427
Then what you are even arguing about? The point being made is that she needed her team to win as she remarked herself. But for some reason it made you melt down initially.
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>>285607512
>Then what you are even arguing about?
Maybe if you actually tried following the conversation you wouldn't need to ask
>The point being made is that she needed her team to win as she remarked herself
At the end yes she tells Fern and Stark in their hospitals beds that they did great and she couldn't have done it without them.
But all you care about is 'how can I powerscale this' that you will ignore the entire context of it being about the situation, because THE win was always stated to be - restore the Golden Lands so Denken could visit his wife's grave again.
Stark helping her achieve that is not by being stuck in a gold statue the entire time Frieren is fighting Solitar but giving her more time to analyse Macht's memories.
But ofc you need to think about more than one panel at once to realise this
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>>285590834
This manga sets a new bar for Generic ____.
Completely devoid of a single original design, setting, character or idea.
It's like it was produced by AI, or someone who hates the fantasy genre but had commitments to produce it anyway.
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>>285586104
>>285607085
I will admit that Denken would have lost without Frieren dispelling the gold. Though I think she did it moreso to unfreeze Fern and could not know for certain that it would give Denken the win.

Plus in that case she really should have gone full power from the start.

But that besides, now I am confused because I thought you (not the anon making this argument) were saying that Frieren could defeat Macht as well?
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>>285607983
>Though I think she did it moreso to unfreeze Fern and could not know for certain that it would give Denken the win.
Yes but even that was uncertain because she wasn't sure Fern would be in a state to come in, or was even alive. I've seen people say this was her clutching at straws by stating she was gambling but it was clearly just acknowledging that she had no way to know Fern could do it. She can only pull this trick once so she basically just put all her faith in the demon was lying and Fern would be reliable, cus that's what Himmel the Hero.... Blah blah

Anyway, her actual thought process behind doing the curse reversal on the entire city at once is left for interpretation but for sure Denken would be dead if she hadn't done it at that moment and she was always sure Denken would win.

You can call it luck, or making your own luck but it was the move that proved the deciding factor either way. It all comes down to that she had the uttermost faith that when she pulled the trigger her comrades would know exactly what to do and do it.
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>>285607354
Well read them.
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>8 episodes left
Macht arc will either be rushed or split in half FUCK YOU
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What is about an actual good series that attracts mentally ill shit posters?
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>>285608262
They are not going to reach that arc, they are probably going to end this season with them being near the Golden Land to tease for the next season/movie.
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I saw a picture of the frieren angle meme but she was wearing a nazi SS outfit but I CANT FUCKING FIND IT SOMEONE OBLIGE ME PLEASE
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>>285569858
>>285569891
>>285569919
FAT
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>10 episodes
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Frieren and Stark date next episode
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>>285599243
It can't be helped. You can't fit everything into a video and jap audiences want to see monkeys in a zoo (dumb hornyposters) and funny jokes instead of 20 minutes of anons insulting each other and shitting on the worldbuilding.
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>>285576516
>He brought Macht with him. Both of them are alive.
If you're suppositing that Macht timecapsuled them both and that Frieren's counterspell reawakend them, I'd say that it'd be surprising that Macht can't undo his curse on demons other than himself.

>>285586570
Propagating the information that humanities greatest hero died in battle is a huge morale boost for the demons and a huge hit to morale for the humans fighting on other fronts. Also given that the HotS knew what was going to happen I'm sure he took some basic measures to soften the blow his demise for the people around him.
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>>285607085
>>285607644
Wait is that Denken guy actually going to do something? He was so overhyped last season for someone that did nothing but lose.
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>>285609251
Fernanons... don't look!
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Dual wielding is cringe, no wonder the chud of the south jobbed to a bunch of demons
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>>285614373
t. pussy ass nigga
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Pov - she heard you call her an old hag
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>>285615869
Yeah? What's she gonna do about it?
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>>285615965
Jokes on her I love seeing women cry.
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>>285606489
It turned to shit recently.
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the strongest
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>>285616260
no it didn't
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>>285616311
what causes some demons to become warriors instead of mages anyway
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>>285612458
>I'd say that it'd be surprising that Macht can't undo his curse on demons other than himself.
We have no evidence that he can (that I remember) and Serie's initial probing being about whether he could undo a curse upon on himself indicates that he's never demonstrated it the ability to undo it on a living thing before.
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why is she a wannabe kuudere?
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>>285618770
Why is Serie sexo? I don't know either.
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>>285618770
>wannabe kuudere
Explain yourself
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>>285553566
>saucenao can't find this image
>google can
>it's literally on boorus
grim and yes I know filename has source still sad
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I don't people think about this fact enough: SERIE is the richest woman on the planet. along more than even the other kingdoms.

she started rich even before training Flamme.
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>>285599243
lets see you turning a cesspool of shitpost into cashable videos
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>>285612684
Never doubt the old dudes in this series.
The real MVP of the whole battle was Lernen.
Absolute gigachad.
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>>285585174
Shitposting at 4chan, videogames and remote work have fucked up my brain beyond repair, some times i think at a mix of 4 diferent languages
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>>285618850
Please don't let her die.
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>ESL! ESL!
I have never understood the insult. Whoever has tried to learn another language understands how difficult it is to master it.
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>>285616470
some are born with dumb brains thus become warriors rather than intelligent mages, like humans
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>>285620306
I think the author is intending to use this current arc to break the whole prophecy/destiny thing. There's simply too many red fags being thrown up on Serie and if Frieren (it'd have to be her as it is what she does) can do her magical reverse-engineering.thing and break the expected future then it opens up the entire story. No more prophetic domination.

Frieren's actual main talent is for undoing/counterspelling any other mages' shit: Boze the Immortal's supposedly unbreakable shield; Serie's dome in the first exam test; "Di Agolze is no longer a curse."; she was the main contributor in analysing & reverse-engineering Qual's Zoltraak; etc. She's a magic hacker.
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>>285606618
deito episode next
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>>285620887
A prophecy undone due to a magical counterspell on the prophecy would be kinda baller, since I don't think I've ever seen something like that. I mean, it would make sense, since prophecies and the like are magical in nature.
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>>285620966
It's the prelude to it, hot springs and finding a place Stark is going to take her comes first
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>>285620887
>red fags
flags, before someone gets trampled in the rush to point out the mistake...

[insert wheredoyouthinkyouare.jpg here]
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>>285621681
Absolute goofus flag. What was Man thinking?
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>>285564848
It took her 100 years to recover physically, and then another 400 to recover mentally. And even then, it was only because of Himmel.
>>285556152
No shit. If it fails, she dies. And she tried the rest of her arsenal at Solitar and it all failed. She gambled on Fern instead. Had Fern actually been dead, she'd have had to resort to her final move.
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>>285585073
Too bad Jarman is not following the Wash it All Away threads because if pervy comments is what he wants, it's there that all the pervertes are.
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>>285620966
Will they put 3 chapters together or the date part will be for the next episode?
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>>285553240
Sword is probably the actual demon, just needs some other sucker demon to wield it.
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>>285575491
>If a demon requires an entire village to be sated
they don't. it's stated in this episode that demons don't NEED to eat humans, they just do it because they want to.
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>>285577506
probably similar to people, but they're born strong enough to fend for themselves so they abandon their young as soon as their born.
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>>285578550
so they don't have to do Macht arc.
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Reminder that Solitar believed she could defeat Macht. She also knew him very well - they spent years living together. This means there are ways to counter Di Agolze besides Frieren's counterspell.
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>>285624360
she did avoid turning into gold unlike everything around her
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is frieren the cutest elf in the show
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>>285626042
There's like three elves in the show not counting motionless corpses.
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>>285556033
Schlatch's future vision looks further into the future than HOTS. HOTS got what he wanted in the shorter timeframe, but Schlatch was playing the longer game.
Whatever plans that Schlacht and the Demon Lord had for 'coexistence' with humans, it involved the Demon king being defeated. That was an intentional sacrifice play, but knowing how the game ends despite that due to future vision.

My personal assumption at this point is demons are evolving to become more human like. Demons of the Demon Lord's generation were able to be curious about humans, but not actually understand them. But a future generation of demons WILL be able to understand humans and have the potential to co-exist with them. imitating humans so much that they accidentally evolve themselves into being so human like they become more than demons. But demons live very long lives, potentially even forever, and new demons being born with that potential wouldn't change anything if the older, more powerful demons were still around attacking and eating people.
In short, the war was always designed to fail from the outset. A planned culling of demonkind that removed the biggest threats and make room for the new demons. But that requires even the Demon Lord himself to die. He can set up the future he wants, but never exist as a part of it. His presence would negate it.
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>>285626042
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>>285627065
Demons don't live forever. Frieren planned on Macht dying of old age. The oldest demon we know of was the demon king, who was around 1000. It's possible he was already dying of old age.
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>>285627065
Shit take from a demon apologist.
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>>285619111
Just use iqdb
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>>285626042
Milliarde soon. She makes Heiter look like a sober uncorrupted priest.
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>>285616470
>mage vs mage
>requires Death Note levels planning/cunning to win if both parties are evenly matched
>Ferien the Slayer prefers using Fern to ambush the other mage instead of "fair matches"

>warrior vs mage
>just bumrush the bitch lol
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>>285555993
>wait a minute, that card...
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>>285609251
Anyone else think Frieren had plans to take Stark's virginity for his 18th birthday?
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>>285555993
Why isn't she fatter?
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>>285628151
Eating that amount of meat will give her way too much flatulence, I know that.
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>>285627093
*glance* *glance*
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>>285624360
>>285624751
Avoiding being turned into gold wasn't the issue, it was reversing it.
Denken already had a spell to prevent it affecting him but even Macht couldn't reverse it
Nothing but Frieren's spell could do that
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>>285628110
She was clearly hitting on him
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>>285629357
The anti-magic crystal reverses it. If it didn't, they could use Di Agolze objects to mine it.
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If they want to kill Serie they could try a trick like in Metallic Rouge-make her 'dead' and migrate her consciousness into Frieren's body.Both elf,female and powerful,so Frieren is the perfect host.
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>>285629594
>The anti-magic crystal reverses it
Headcanon, demon magic works on different fundamentals to humanities magic.
And even if it did have an effect on demon magic it would likely just prevent it being cast, not reverse it, which is the whole issue
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but is there a demon who could even touch madara uchiha? let alone defeat him
and i'm not talking about edo tensei uchiha madara. i'm not talking about gedou rinne tensei uchiha madara either. hell, i'm not even talking about juubi jinchuuriki gedou rinne tensei uchiha madara with the eternal mangekyou sharingan and rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both amatera
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>>285584149
A lot of people seem to think Frieren was Bocchi the Rock where a whatever manga was picked up and elevated by a dedicated fan when it's Spy x Family where a very successful manga that was already huge in the sphere on its own right received a huge amount of attention and work because it was assured to print money
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>>285602231
First season was unremarkable as well
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>>285629505
but Frieren is gay
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>>285602231
This

Also, Himmel the Hero is the most bland character I've ever seen.
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>>285552798
what in the generic stock effects is this? is madhouse really this incompetent these days they can't animate a poof of dust? I mean fuck me mate you can just resize a round cloud of smoke like some cheap gacha at least that'd look better
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>>285616028
it's hard to go on an adventure when you are constantly hard...
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>>285592910
stop loving demon women
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>>285630977
It's Kōki Fujimoto, he loves using Blender
He was heavily involved in the S1 action cuts too
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no Frieren
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>>285631321
god I wish that was me
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was violence justified in this case?
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>>285630977
>>285631229
warriors hitting things and exploding is always comical in Frieren, but the world works like that for some reason
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>>285631550
Frieren pantsu are for select eyes only
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>>285631765
>I'M ROCKIN THE SUBURBS
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Do you think Sein regrets leaving the party yet
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>>285565500
reminds me of
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>>285562252
Frieren is an ICE supporter
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>>285632435
she's DPS actually
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Serie lost notwithstanding
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>karenBRAHMIN is here
Holy fucking kino
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>>285553694
I get anti-magic crystals are long gone at this point, but why don’t any of the shadow warriors have any? Even one and Wolf wins.
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>>285632577
>get a party of 4 warriros
>give them all crystals
>wipe the entire demon race in an afternoon
Someone has yet to debunk this.
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Meltie time
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>>285632577
They just can't, OKAY?!
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>>285633206
Because the crystals that cannot be mined are irrelevant
The magic police in the current arc have the ability to disrupt mana and disable the ability to cast spells
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>>285629687
>demon magic works on different fundamentals to humanities magic
It doesn't. Humanity was able to learn Zoltraak.
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>>285636561
What do you think this means? Both demons and mages work under the same rules, the understanting part varies but not the system, is all magic, the only ones outside of these system are priests.
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https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/285616888/#q285618648
>mods proceed to delete the thread
Kek
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>>285635024
Don't most demon girls tend towards looking like teenagers?
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>>285636879
>What do you think this means
That's demons magic, specifically that of the seven sages, is unique. In that it cannot be understood or used by humanity due to the fundamental differences between human and demon physiology.
Even that it is 'beyond the laws of nature' , unlike human magic
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There's a thing I don't get
A lot of people see fern and stark and think that it's obvious that fern likes stark so they should get together
Did stark ever show any sort of romantic interest in fern though?
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>>285631550
based kid
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>>285589246
The sword hag demon giving a titjob
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>>285638696
>Did stark ever show any sort of romantic interest in fern though?
Revisit this once you watch the next two episodes
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>>285638361
Demon magic is only unique when it fits the plot. The flight spell for example should not have been able to be copied, yet it was because the author wanted mages to fly. Frieren can undo Di Agolze, but not cast it because... reasons.
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>>285638761
do you really think she would wear such lewd underwear? Frieren would definintely wear grandma bloomers like the 2hoes
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>>285638361
They explain to you plenty of times how the only difference is in how demons don't need to understand magic to use it, this doesn't make it a different power system, demons are made of magic and can use magic that humans can't, but is still magic, I really cannot add anything else here.
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>>285639101
They state that some magic can only be done by demons due to biological differences in their brain. What spells it applies to is enforced selectively for the plot.
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>>285574933
imagine him overpowering her, interlocked fingers, pinning aura's arms to the ground, taking aura by force
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>>285639001
she just wears what her master taught her to
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>>285606618
Love how it ends at the time travel arc. As it should.
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>>285639137
And? You already said that, this doesn't make it not be magic.
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>>285639137
It took forever to master zoltraku, and that's with old hag tech support. Some things just defy human common sense, like women.
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>>285639527
Copying zolraaak required meticulous understanding and reverse-engineering. Copying flight didn't -- mages run it based on vibes. Demon magic is apparently so easy to copy that it can be done in several contradictory ways.
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>>285616352
Yes it did.



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