I hope we'll get more of her friend in the coming ep
does this have good hetero romance? no one tasteful cares about gay shit
>>285557977Former romance, but there's clearly still a spark.
>>285557556I hope Asa gets to be happy next episode
>>285559830I want her to get even sadder.
>>285559914oh no
>>285559830>>285559914The duality of man
>>285557556YAY
>whoa, sugoi, you can make your own lunch!
Asa-chan is cute!
heh
You had an hour to reply!
>they're actually going to try to adapt the entire manga in a single season by skipping a fuck ton of scenes and important conversationsfuck my life. Episode 4 covered SOME parts of chapters 9-13. They skipped over a lot of scenes that I would genuinely consider important. They also have yet to include a scene from chapter 8. I beg everyone who is currently enjoying the anime to read the manga from the beginning. Please.
Makio-chan is forced to keep the kitchen clean since it doesn't look like a pigsty anymore!
>not GOMADAsa is never going to make it.
分かります
>>285561266makio is literally me
Cringe fatty.
>>285561266autism
Are you /a/lone?
Asa is type of girl that's gonna have lots of boyfriends because she can't stand being alone. She'll sleep with all of them looking for a connection and will only hate herself for doing it afterwards.
>>285561146buddy, you should've been coping earlier, the op has characters from way late in the manga, and certain images imply the content from the final volume
cutest faces
>>285561641yes, but I'm not lonely
>>285561923No one can be lonely when they have their fellow /a/nons.
>>285560963Yes.
>>285561842i was still holding out hope
>>285561393Business cards are cool.
I'm enjoying this so I guess I'll download the manga and get reading.
>>285562775Cute hag.
>uniform is just grey and whiteGrim, even my old highschool uniform had more color.
>>285562746That one isn't.
>>285562825I wonder how much uniforms factor into which schools people try to get in to
*David Attenborough voice*Here we see a gathering of wild hags. The scent of beer and bougie pub food draw them in from miles around.
>>285562935More than you think.
>>285563077hags are cute. CUTE
>>285563213now kiss
>this little bitch thinks she's too good for tupperwareI would murder someone for a good bulk set of tupperware right now.
>>285563355japanese bento autism, please understand
>>285563355Tupperware is dead.
Goddess!
I've been giving Asa's mother the benefit of the doubt a lot, but if this memory was accurate she really was just a bitch.
>>285560963>>285560987i always feel the urge to bully her.
>>285563493I thought it's being implied that Makio's idea of Asa's mom is kinda warped.
Contemporary Asian home cooking is pretty funny. Because they're often super anal about small details but then make tons of use of premade mass-produced ingredients like ready-made jarred sauces. Like find me a Japanese housewife that can make curry without using a store bought cube and I'll give you a handjob. Its basically the opposite of the West where the focus is on using as little processed food as possible, even if the presentation suffers. >>285563631Or she changed with time.
>>285563493>>285563631I think it was the pressure of being the older sister and having to be a model figure for her sibling. Once she got her own family she calmed down.
This is the kind of thing that aspies do that they think looks cool and not totally ridiculous.
>>285563909Why did she draw the babysitter from the Simpsons?
>>285563677I think in the west we are just over that phase. At some point there was all kind of "magic powers" to add flavor to everything. Meanwhile i even cook and froze my own stock.
Easy AOTS
She will definitely be cramped inside when this Hercules fucks her silly.
When do they fuck?
>>285564077in awe at the size of this lad
>>285564109>186 cm and broadChicks love a gentle giant. Asa's future husband.
Asa, I think it is the wrong time to bring up that your parents are dead when everyone else is laughing about how embarrassing theirs can be at their entrance ceremony. This is some really dogshit EQ. That is Makio's thing, you're supposed to be the one that understands people.
>>285564261Makio is a poor role model.
Is she narcoleptic or something? I thought it was depression but no matter how depressed you are you don't fall asleep in the middle of conversation like that
>>285564261She's still just a kid, she's trying to navigate this whole "dead parents" thing as much as anyone else. Probably thought it was best to bring it up early and get it out of the way.
>>285564504Her bodily reaction to trauma/anxiety/stress is to just shut down physically and mentally and sleep.
'TISM
>>285563951
>>285564520Haven't watched the anime but in the manga she brought it up because she wanted attention
CUTE
>>285564764It's the same case in anime.
This adult woman has some serious issues she needs to resolve.
>>285564866She needs sex.
>>285564764>>285564793Thats how kids can be. Pure Cringekino
>>285564077>186cm >socceranother wasted judo talent
That was all a bit painful to watch.
Waiting for the JP subs for this series is a pain in the ass.Why can't Crunchy just bundle them and sell it as "learn japanese" or some marketing gimmick. Fucking hell.
>>285565269Crunchy subs for English get worse every day. They can't even typeset when there is more than one source of text anymore. Just past everything on top of each other.
>>285565269Is there animetosho but JP subs?
>>285563447Cute smug old hag
>>285565269Because Crunchy customers wouldn't use it and we all know you're not paying for CR.
>bluntly point out that a girl's mother is dead to her face>get pissy when she asks why you are so spiteful towards her motherMakio is a womanchild.
>>285565490Well, yes.
>>285565361I have never used Crunchyroll except in pirated format, and those sometimes those rips have an SRT text stream instead of a proper ASS stream, which supports more text formatting, text overlays for printed type (like signs and shit) and multiple character speaking simultaneously.Sometimes it's the "fansub" who messes this up and does a shitty conversion.There's also the fact some video players have very limited support for ASS and overlapping timestamps (which is usually the case).>>285565429I know, but since multisub releases exist and get torrented earlier, I could get my hands on the JP subs faster.>>285565394Raws or subbed raws usually appear on Nyaa, but it takes a while and some guessing which ones have internal subs and which don't.
>getting overstimulated and miserable just because other people are having fun around youToo relatable.
Molestation.
>>285565724If she just spent all day jerking off to underage girls from bad LNs instead of wtiting them, she'd be an anon.
>>285566070I'm glad she gave her an awkward hug. Japanese culture as depicted in anime is so physically distant, I keep internally screaming for characters to hug or head pat each other in emotional situations, but nothing happens...
Kids these days are savage
>>285566070Why do they look like boys?
>>285566546All the men in this series are tall, broad, and have brick chins. Your sexual dimorphism filter is off.
>>285566546Because anime boys look like girls.
>>285566546Because boys (female) are hot.
>>285560987>>285566467This little shit needs to be slapped in the face.
>>285567084I'll slap you in the face.
>>285565625>2026>sub autism is still a thingAfter 35 years in his hobby nothing ever fucking changes.
>>285565269>>285565625This may be info you already know but>Nanako-Raws is among the only TV rippers left, he includes subs if left in the broadcast. Also just some Vietnamese guy and some of his friends(?) that can and will delay episodes for weeks due to stuff like exams. Also make sure to join his discord (I know) as now he only does new seasonals based off requests)>NF releases often, but not always have Japanese subs (I usually grab NF if I can)>AMZN releases sometimes, but not always have Japanese subs>CR never contains Japanese subs>DSNP is rare, but I've found always contains Japanese subsFor this series just use Nanako but a lot of shows now contain subs on either AMZN or NF. And as I'm sure you know people rip subs from Shincaps .ts releases and put them on Jimaku. t. learning Japanese for close to 4 years now, best of luck anon.
>>285567444Thanks. I usually try my luck with Shincaps, but even though they uploaded 2 files for this episode, from 2 different sources, none had any subs.
>>285561266same
>>285567722Shincaps is one of the only other TV rippers and rips at a higher quality than Nanako, but releases .ts sources that often don't contain subs (at least that I find, sometimes on Jimaku I see subs with Shincaps filenames but I assume they're ripped from the .ts file but none of the files I've ever downloaded contained them or had them when opened with like mkvtoolnix). Either way just stick with Nanako and check the description on NF/AMZN releases, or use Jimaku. It's good to get into the habit that unless you're skilled enough to watch with no Japanese subtitles, that you need to accept that you may miss episode threads entirely and watch shows later than others when it comes to shows that don't have NF/AMZN Japanese subbed releases. Don't try to watch subless either unless you're confident that you can grasp the majority of the show, white noising is awful and don't race to remove subs. This is also my last post about this topic because I hate to off-topic in potential AOTS thread but I like helping fellow learners
Attempts to cure autism: failedshould've bought Makio-chan one of those blue hats.
>>285568628
>>285568808Extremely accurate
>>285568808lol
>>285568808Slander.
God I love this anime. Every problem they show and every little drama we see is not primitive or trite, but is still perfectly understandable.
You know sometimes the second-hand embarrassment makes you pause an episode and walk around your home before you can keep watching? I did that when she brought up her dead parents out of nowhere to her classmates
>>285569386Good direction too.
>>285569800I love how real that was. It's exactly the kind of thing an awkward teenager desperate for approval would do without considering how it would come across. Then it was followed by her impression of how she imagined Makio's reaction based on her memories of her mother (who seems socially "well-adjusted" but desperate for approval if Makio's impression of her is even remotely accurate). Then we get Asa's flashbacks of Makio's "I can't promise I will love you" speech and Makio's actual sincere-but-extremely-awkward reaction.Every single scene hurts so good.
I can feel how immature Asa is here, which means she’s written very well. I can feel how conflicted both of them are because of their differences in personality. The conflict feels so real.Finally, Asa’s loneliness is shown here in a way that feels very human. I can see that she’s finally able to express her complex feeling, that something a kid would naturally struggle with, especially when it comes to loving her mom. And as an anime enjoyer, I can see signs that her big sister actually loves her little sister, but Makio probably misinterprets it, and the big sister is just showing her love in a different way.
good episode. made me tear up.
>>285569800>>285570239Already knew this was coming, having read the manga: I skipped this part. Pushed the key 3 times, 30 seconds forward. I just couldn't watch it again.
>>285569800same. but I also put myself in their shoes and try to think, what would be the best way to react to that? it's tough. I don't wanna be sad if they aren't sad but I can't help but be sad, but I also don't want to make them uncomfortable, but I also want to ease the tension. it's complicated.
>>285565490when that happened I thought "damn what an asshole"but then I realized I'm literally makio.still, would it really be that hard to explain why she hates her? it can even be a way for her to deal and resolve her hatred.
>we're barely relatedNigga she's your niece what the fuck are you on about
>>285570622If they never talked before, does that really matter?
>>285570575>would it really be that hard to explain why she hates her?Hard? Technically not. Socially acceptable? Hell fucking no.>it can even be a way for her to deal and resolve her hatred.True, but it takes time to develop enough mutual trust for both of them to open up to each other's darkest feelings without either of them feeling like the other was blaming them indirectly for their trauma.
>>285561641I JUST NEED Someone to take my hand and pick me up when I'm feeling downSomeone to take my heart and give it a homeSomeone to help me through the times when I'm down and lonelySomeone to be with me when I'm /a/lone, I'm /a/lone
I wonder if the manga's original author read The Courage to Be Disliked or is just such a core of Japanese philosphy that it's present in multiple books. Makio's approach to just letting Asa be and not burden her with anything she thinks is correct reminds me of how this book emphasized interacting with people as they are and refusing to praise, berate or attempt to emotionally influence them in any way and treating them as equals and only assisting them if it's being requested of them
>>285570575>Why isn't she giving a kid whose mother just died detailed accounts of what a shitty person she was?
>>285570575>would it really be that hard to explain why she hates her?Makio is the only person Asa has in her life. She's still going through grief. Would you say to them that their dead parents were pieces of shit and that you were terribly hurt by the way they acted?Do you think a 15yo can calmly listen to that? If she doesn't like what Makio says, where would she ran to? It's a 2 bedroom apartment.And for what, so she can finally selfishly settle a matter she has partly dealt with after decades?Part of growing up is killing your parents in the sense that you realize they are human beings, with their own faults. You develop a different relationship with them, and sometimes you learn why they acted in a certain way when you were a kid. If you had a shitty childhood, that can sometimes heal you.In Asa's case, her parents are literally dead. If she reached some conclusion, there's no one alive to correct her, or provide a different PoV.
>>285570575She's not ready to deal with her hatredJust like asa is not ready to deal with her griefLike pottery
>I get exhausted when I'm around other peopleShe is literally me fr
I want to domestically abuse both Makio and Asa.
>>285571214Terrible postDownvoted
>>285563077as far as izakaya go, this is clearly a more expensive one
>>285570875I mean she literally asked her for it
NIGGA WHAT
>>285571282Kids are dumb
>>285563077>>285571243Is this really considered bougie food?
>>285569800How are you supposed to respond when someone says that out of nowhere?
>>285571393https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg9rx7D7TMs
>>285564790She used to look like a girl huh.
>>285563447sexo
literally me
>>285564866What was so wrong about what she said?
>>285564077>Hercules
>>285557977No, they're all lesbians and ugly hags.
>>285557556What the fuck, when did this get an anime? I didn't see a thread last week
>>285560955I was jawdropped when asa mentioned her parent's death so casually to try and fit in. What a strange thing to say man. Thankfully the others deflected and just said something kind, but that's a really odd first impression to make lmao
>>285571604Just like me
>>285561146Don't worryBeleibe in s2
>>285571622I thought it was really strange that she did that after going though the whole everyone found out about my dead parents thing.
This show is very good
>>285571616We've had threads for every episode. I think there was one week when the thread had a "Journal with Witch" in subject field so it was a little harder to find.
>>285571453she still looks like a girl retard
>>285571666She wanted a normal graduation, now she wants to be the protagonist of her high-school.
>>285571707She looks like teenage Justin Bieber.
>>285571694It's already episode 4, what the fuck, when did it start airing? I saw the news but that was months back and haven't been seeing threads at all.
>>285563677Very trueI'm romanian and all of my food looks like sloppa but I use fresh vegtables for everything and it always tastes super good. Maybe like 10% or less of the stuff I cook with comes from a can, and it's usually tomato sauce since making your own tomato sauce for everything that needs it takes too much time
>>285563447Ugly smug old hag
>>285571762https://desuarchive.org/a/search/subject/Ikoku%20Nikki/
>>285571762Just use livechart to find out what is airing, baka.
>>285571497Technically no. It isn't asa's buisness why she feels that way about her sister, BUT having that kind of thing at the back of her mind all the time is going to color her perception of makio forever until it's cleared up. It may even change the way she feels about her mom, if she ends up understanding makio to some extent, which would probably not be a good thing to have her retroactively start hating her mom because she was a bitch to her aunt. Basically, no, Makio doesn't owe her an explanation. But Makio is doing exactly what she warned Asa not to do in the last episode. She's not opening up to a person she probably should be opening up to. Makio has unresolved feelings about her sister and telling them to Asa will probably help her, but she's not ready to deal with that, so in the meantime Asa will go through some amount of suffering. She knows that Makio sees her mom in her, so she knows she isn't going to be loved by Makio. But love is what she probably needs the most of right now.
>>285571762Anon do you not check the "upcoming season" threads with the big chart of every anime and mark down the air dates for the ones you're intrested in?
Any hibibros here??
>>285571726nobody but you thinks this or wants this to be true
I really love the OP songAlso I hope we get more of Asa's singing
>>285565029>t.
>>285572100I liked hibimeshi.
>>285572352Asa just needs Makocchi to make her some yummy food and the hate in her heart will melt
>>285572167Keep coping faggot.
>>285571393"I thought my life was hard, but damn." [pregnant pause] [adjusts walk to put Asa in the middle]"Anyway, you guys seem nice. Wanna meet up after school to get to know each other? I know a good place." [looks at Asa] [looks at the others] [changes the topic to something lighter but not completely frivolous]That's the theory. It wouldn't help much in the moment, but it could help break the ice, maybe, if everyone else read the room and cared enough. (They wouldn't. Nobody prepares teenagers for this.)
>>285572498What, if somebody dropped that on me the first time i met her the obvious response would be to never talk to her again.
>>285572541You can just tell she's gonna trauma dump at the worst possible time if you stick with her.
I didn't get the significance of this. She made a fresh cup without washing the previous one (i.e., falling back to bad habits)? No lunch?>>285561146The only part that should've been included is the ex's talk about how his parents raised him, which was similar to Makio's. It would explain why her family dynamics were like that (i.e., somewhat cold and full of judgement).I'm sure they're going to pack all that into a different episode and flesh it neatly.The thing about any manga as a medium is that it doesn't need to stick to a single thread. It allows abrupt changes, flashbacks, PoV changes, etc. The medium is literally designed to turn the page and maybe find something entirely new, whereas anime has music and stuff. Disjointed scenes don't work as well, less so in 20 minute chunks, even less so if the direction aims to have a slow steady pace.
>>285566546That's how Japanese women look.
>>285572541>>285572557You're saying that as an adult accustomed to businesslike manners. None of them would have that kind of life experience or jaded emotional distance at that age.
>>285566070I want to molest Asa so much.
>>285572625My thoughts for this scene as an autist were:>I should bring the dirty cup to the sink but I'd rather die than come out of my cave again while an unexpected guest is here so I'll bear with it.
>>285572625>Disjointed scenes don't work as wellhard cuts work just fine, there've been several good ones in this very episode
>>285572817Thankfully you're not underage or live off your parents anymore so these problems are a thing of the past :)
>>285572817This is true and I have felt this feel many times beforeBUT>implying makio would give a shit about an unwashed mug
>>285563447Look at her. DORK.
>>285572817Then proceed trying to clean the cup with the tongue.
>>285572903I prefer the handsome, erotic anime Makio
>>285570575Its hard to say, "her criticisms of my plans and my inability to argue back left a long scar on my psychology that is hard to cope with". It makes you look pathetic at the very least.
>>285572895>implying makio would give a shit about an unwashed mugShe wouldn't have cared before, but apparently she now takes into account how Asa sees her and how Asa's friends see her living situation.CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT!
>>285569800Same happened for me. I couldn't do it.
>>285571622>>285571666I'd say it's probably easier to get it out of the way early on in a ,,casual" manner than bottle it up as some secret that then gets awkwardly discovered.
>>285570875>detailed accounts of what a shitty person she was?but the point is that she wasn't that bad of a person and only once people die and you pick up the pieces of their lives, you get a chance to see them in ways you didn't before.
>>285572931Metrosexual shut-in
>>285572988WE JUST NEED THE HAIRCUT NOW!!!
>>285573028Dumping that completely unprompted isn't "casual". There's a give-and-take rhythm to how personal you're allowed to get and how much sympathy you can expect from others based on how much they've shared about themselves. Someone has to be the first to mention painful stuff to give everyone else permission to open up, but "my parents just died" is too big of a bomb to drop on the first day.
>>285573218I spilled I didn't masturbate on my first grad school get-together evening.
>>285573282Please tell me they invited you to their "Netflix and chill with benefits".
>>285571622didn't she literally just almost ruin her strongest friendship because she didn't want to be known as the girl whose parents died?
>>285571214Absolutely. Makio would argue and bitch and threaten you, but a slap across the face or a hand around her throat and she'd shut the fuck up and submit instantly.
What's Makio's deal with her sister anyways? Was she ego-raped that badly?
>>285573218To be fair, it wasn't out of nowhere. They were talking about their parents specifically, so her mentioning her parents died is >on topic. Also, she immediately mentioned her aunt, who is a novelist, so it could seem like she's trying to equate her aunt to her parental figure to fit in. Plus, she didn't say when her parents died, so they could have understood it as her parents passed away a long time ago and she's comfortable with mentioning it directly because she's already healed from the pain (this is obviously not true, but they could think this)
>>285573369She said exactly why she was angry then and she says exactly why she was so upfront with it this time.
>>285573369That was a different contextGraduating middleschool is like an "end" to that chapter of her life, and she wanted it to end how it was most of the time. Starting highschool is a new chapter so it's fine to be different here. Plus, the most important thing you're missing here is control. At her graduation she wasn't the one telling people. The choice was made for her against her will. Now she's actively choosing to bring it up because she's in control. It's a bit nuanced, but it shouldnt be hard for you to understand the differences here, anonkun
>>285573369>>285571666They talked about making their high school debut earlier in the episode. Asa likes to be noticed, as long as it is on her terms and not just as a public spectacle. Asa didn't stand out academically or physically so she tried to stand out by bringing up something special about herself - that she was an orphan who lived with her aunt. This was a reveal she could control and express on her own terms to peers in a way she imagined was advantageous to herself, socially. What she didn't realize in the moment, is that's socially fucking retarded to drop on a group of people who were chatting about how embarrassing their own parents were. People that she didn't know and who didn't know her. Immediately afterward, she realized how bad that looked and how they paved right over that reveal to continue talking to one another as they were. So her bombshell was a dud and only made her the weird girl who shares stuff about being an orphan in the middle of a conversation.
>>285573461It's complicated
>>285573461All the memories of her sister we've seen so far is the sister being a absolute cunt.
>>285573544I would keep being her friend after that
>>285573569But those are from makio's perspective, which could be biased because of her feelings already. It's not difficult to interpret things in a negative way when you already got a negative view of the person. I will admit that her telling makio to grow up when it came to her novels is brutal, though. Perhaps we will learn that she behaved that way because of some level of envy. If asa's mother hated her sister, too, then I doubt she would be calling her makiochan. It wouldn't surprise me if asa reveals that her mom had nothing but nice things to say about makio
Do therapists not exist in Japan?
>>285573721Makio is too smart to fall for them.
>>285573721>therapy
>>285573482>they could have understood it as her parents passed away a long time ago and she's comfortable with mentioning it directly because she's already healed from the painI think that's what she was aiming for (to look cool and mature), but given how they reacted, that's not how they took it. As expected from kids who have never experienced the stages of grief.
4chan might still be the best place on the internet to discuss anime in the english language but I don't think /a/ has what it takes to discuss this kind of animeguess I'll have to learn moon and go hit on single women in bars in Shibuya and ask them what their favorite anime is
>draw a boy and call it a girl>draw a man and call it a woman
>>285573760>I don't think /a/ has what it takes to discuss this kind of animehow so
>>285573585Same, but I'm a literal autist, so
>>285573781That is a good thing.
>>285573783I mean look at the above thread at the discussion of a teenage girl's mental and emotional state as if it was the magic system of an isekai
I suspect there are some literal women itt.
>>285573760Wow. Rude.
>>285573804If humans weren't mechanical systems then advertising wouldn't be a trillion dollar industry.
>>285573804Do you have anything to add to the conversation or can you only criticize?
>>285573804You're saying it isn't?
>>285573804What tthe fhck are you talking about? Which posts?I feel the discussion in all of these threads so far have been high quality
>>285573760Come on now. Every thread so far has had at least a few dozens posts with more emotional intelligence than the rest of the board combined.Imagine thinking single women hang out in bars in Shibuya and watch anime
>>285573721They exist. They're still waiting for people to get over the stigma and call them.
>>285573721burger meme
>>285573721I believe in Japan they're called goukanhan
>>285573760Yeah, go to Japan and broadcast the number 1 hobby most looked down by women and express your probably dumb and categorical opinions openly in front of people whose entire culture shapes them into keeping their inner thoughts to themselves and their most intimate circle. See how that works out for you.
>>285573980Rude
>>285574021it'll be fine because I'm hot
>>285567444Now if only I could find JP subs for old shit like Magipoka and Serial Experiments LAIN
>>285569800it's cute how admitted genuine autists like this challenge themselves and their emotional awareness by watching a hardcore character drama
>>285574052Then get off my board, you fucking riajuu scum.
>>285569800I basedfaced and put my hands on my temples like the one animegirl going 'bleh' while laughing because i couldn't believe what I just heard
>>285566181In fairness, this is USUALLY because it's harder to animate things like hugs and stuff than it is to, you know, not animate that. I'm not thousand-folded jomoneese but I'll bet they're as physically touchy with eachother as other people are. Only people on earth who are all collectively autistic and hate touch are the binnish :DD
>>285561641Nah, my family live with me.
>>285574271Are you paying for their upkeep or are they paying for yours?
>>285573760I looked it up on youtube and not a single woman is watching this anime and it's a josei. It's dire compared to the female audience support that shounen like JJK and Frieren get.
>>285570280I think makio is a really really sensitive person and her sister's more harsh personality just drove a wedge between them. Perhaps what should have been seen as sisterly banter was taken as very serious and painful criticism
>>285571616Is that the paper that makes you go AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
>>285574304Most women got into anime to watch shows about cute boys because Western TV doesn't have any shows about cute boys. They're not in it to watch slow paced dramas about women talking through mental health problems. There's already a lot of Western shows about stuff like that.
>>285574304it's fine since Frieren obviously beats this for AOTS, being AOTD and all, but I wonder what they see in the other one
>>285573795I don't recall making this post
>>285574304If I've learned anything from jarman it's that cute Japanese women only watch anime to impress White men and trap them with their sideways pussies
>>285574413Why are you capitalizing white?
>>285574371>JJK Hot men of basically every stereotype. Goth Men? Choso and YutaGolden Retriever Men? Yuji and TodoYandere Men? Gojo and TojiMen Who Will Just Fucking Kill You? Sukuna and Geto/KenjakuYou can keep going, and there's some dude for it.
>>285574448Why are you not?
>>285574448Randomly capitalized nouns = GermanRandomly capitalized adjectives = schizophrenicI'm not even joking.
>>285574464Because it's not a nationality or ethnicity? Because I don't have culture war brain rot?
>>285574308I'm inclined to think the mangaka is either on the spectrum themselves or (more likely) has a family member who is, because you can't write a character like Makio with this kind of nuance without having experienced situations like these directly or indirectly.>>285570280This also hits a little too close for comfort. I will not elaborate.
>>285574510Okay
>>285566546Because it's a Josei series aimed at lesbians.
You can tell this is a series for women as all the characters seem to not care to the point of nearly hating each other, but then suddely have to pretend to care when someone starts crying.
>>285563493Man this scene was such a realistic portrayal of trauma
>>285573781This.
>>285573585same but mostly because I'm desperate to be on speaking terms with someone by this point
>>285574971I'll be your friend, anon
>>285574929This. I struggle to understand the motivations of anyone in this show and why they do the things they do. My brain is literally not wired to understand the way they're acting.
>>285575003Just go back to your shitty isekai and military shows, anon.
>>285561146I love the anime though, like so so much.Should I read the manga every week and experience both at the same time?
>>285574999
>>285561146I probably will read it once the anime has finished airing.
>>285574929It isn't pretending to care. It is caring while holding a duality or triality of emotions about it. Makio does resent Asa's presence to some extent. She resents her for spoiling her quietude. For reminding Makio of her sister constantly. For having so many problems that Makio is now forced to be responsible for dealing with. But she does care about Asa and feel responsibility and love towards her. She isn't angry about having to comfort Asa or anything like that. Not excited at the prospect, but not resenting the necessity of having to help a young girl with no family cope with the world. These can exist side by side.
>>285574929Makio looked concerned when Emiri left, after telling her Asa was sleeping yet again. She bought her celebratory pizza. She's constantly nagging about not leaving her diary wide open. She says she could join the music club as she likes singing so much, and to do whatever she wants. Prepared her dinner and every time they interact, she's careful with her words.Either you're watching at 2x or you might have the 'tism.
>>285575030I like character drama about characters I relate to
I really like the soundtrack a lotIt along with the slice of life parts just makes me cry a lot, I dont really know why
>>285575206I have the tism and I think that anon is just an inattentive retard.
>>285575227literally me
>>285563077Why are hags so tall and masculine?
>>285575251It's an adaptation to better capture their prey.
>>285575030Rude. Allow undersocialized anons the opportunity to grow.
I dont get why she couldnt love Asa even if she hated her sister. I guess she's like working through it but they're totally different people and she's literally an orphan and needs love.That akward hug was kino though, I get what they're going for but I cant stand Makios autistic ass
>>285575206Is emiri just the thousand-folded version of emily?
>>285575279W-what is their prey??
>>285575478Small mammals and reptiles.
>>285575427Love is something that builds over time. They basically just met a month ago. She told her>I'll probably never be able to love youSpoiler alert. This means she's going to end up loving her. I haven't read the manga. I just know the basics of storytelling, anon.
>>285575478Bisexual men
>>285561393Cute cheeks
>>285575478Hot oji-sans.
>>285564731>>285560955Why are these girls so ugly and masculine?
>>285574304my twitter loves it. and Tamun Kun too, they loved Hana Kimi for a while. I think Tamon Kun is the one that gets the most motion with girls and Hana Kimi blew up and then fell off but this show gets good motion on there
>>285574243It is even spelled out in some manga that relatives don't hug eachother like westerners do.
>>285566181Wait until you find out that kissing is almost nonexistent in some non-Western cultures
>>285575577They are handsome and masculine.
>>285575581Your Twitter is full of lesbians.
>>285575502I know, its a really good story and the characters are great. I just cant understand not wanting to shower someone with love and care when they need it. In the past there were too many times I was too afraid to do it and I regret deeply everytime.
Why are women so complicated lol, just cry it off and move on.
>>285575646I like how the other show today that's supposed to be about a handsome, somewhat masculine girl is super feminine in comparison.
>>285575709Uruwashi no Yoi no Tsuki? How is that?
>>285575691yes, fujo lesbian central
>>285575749It's alright. Generic romance where an inexperienced girl is getting used to being hit on by Chad. She'll likely embrace her feminine side by the end.I prefer romcom over plain romance though so Seihantai na Kimi to Boku is the show I look forward to more today, personally.
Makio's line about how she doesn't feel lonely and doesn't understand people who do felt weirdly relatable
>>285557556If Asa wanted to stand out she should become a gyaru, bad writing.
>>285576086Tomboy gyaru? Sign me up.
>freshly bathed Makionice
>>285560963>>285560987>>285562802Asa was extra adorable this episode
>>285576189You just know she uses mens shampoo as she can't be fucked with any nonsense.
>>285564020>>285568808>>285566070>>285570859>>285573781>draw yaoi and call it yuri
>>285564261She's a teenager
A drinking party without a pwaaah? There this hag goes sticking her nose into other peoples business again. She almost cost her daughter her best friend from this shit.Glasses girl is cute.They got a hog sitting in front of them.JK version of her aunt?Way to drop a bomb on them.Is she autistic? Can't handle a couple JKs hanging out?She is now narcoleptic? Sure she slept a lot but before it was just something she did, not just pass out.Another nice episode.
This is a great show, but the fact that is animated and japanese made it a beacon to strange pests
>>285576406I just want to punch Asa in the stomach over and over until she vomits. Is that so much to ask?
>>285576432Anything to make her forget the loneliness
>>285569800I get what you say, but in this specific case didn't happened to me, I had to deal with people in the mourn phase, and they sometimes do things like these in good faith
>>285574351No, that's this.
>>285565724>>285568808>>285570575I like how anons are realizing that Makio is an autist like us. She's literally me.
>>285571214>>285573431And Asa would immediately cower and submit just from getting yelled at. She'd be crying like a scared puppy.
>>285576531Is it truly autism or just a realistically written woman's selfishness though?
>>285571726Justin Bieber?
>>285576624no neurotypical woman would say half of the things she does out loud
>>285573211Asa already got the haircut
>>285574371And Frierenfags wonder why this board hates them so much
>>285576531Yeah, she's the exact same as me, if I was able to support myself with a cool job, and if I had friends I went out with occasionaly for a drink, and if I had an ex-lover who I had a friendly and supportive relation with, and if I just needed a little brush up to look nice. But besides that like she's just like me, fr.
>>285576745Just take a shower and groom yourself and stop whining.
>>285575478Schoolgirls
>>285576724there's nothing to wonder, /a/'s popularbad Frieren hate is governed by the exact same autism that makes them pause the video and pace around for a minute when a character has an awkward social interaction
>>285576803>makes them pause the video and pace around for a minute when a character has an awkward social interactionThis is literally the most normal thing in the world.
>>285574304Surely you're not talking about react youtubers? I really hope you don't pay attention to them.
>>285576830No it isn't you tranny freak
>>285576830>it's totally normal! my mom and my dad used to do the exact same thing! >also they were terrible at making eye contact but bonded over their mutual love of trains
>>285576878Trains are awesome.
>>285576914Makio...
>>285576803huh?
>>285562775To that one anon (you know who you are). Thank you! Fuck you! I can't unsee her as Ladd Russo anymore.
>>285577108she has a very powerful chin
>>285573943Yeah, who needs therapy where there are perfectly serviceable bridges to jump off and forested areas to overdose on painkillers.
>>285571646>Beleibe in s2more series should take the horimiya route of doing "here's a new season of stuff we skipped the first time"
So we are getting a complete adaptation of the manga, right? Shuka is on the 8th season of Natsume. They will adapt this one till the end too, right?
>Asa meets new kids at school>they each have something special about them (sports, art, size, class rep etc)>she feels the need to stand out a bit too>Makio says she hasn't adopted Asa>Asa projects her expectations of her mother onto Makio>everyone talking about and comparing their parents all throughout the episode>Kasamachi mentions that raising a child and loving them are different thingsIt's like poetry it rhymes
>>285577108God damn it anon why
>be Asa's mom>be turbo bitch to your sister>regret it after one final blow-up and secretly keep mementos from the old days and say positive things about her to your daughter>die in a car crash before you can make up>possibly even died in the crash ON YOUR WAY to make amends>tfw
>>285577108Lesbian
>>285571666She wasn't gonna go three years of high school without anyone finding out. In middle school, she literally just had to get through one single day.
>>285576285Where?
>>285574929You're right, this is a josei. Anime for hags and lesbians.
>>285579365>possibly even died in the crash ON YOUR WAY to make amendsReally?
>>285576483AAAAAAAAAA
>>285576724>brings up frierenCHADS out of nowhere
>>285580266>out of nowhere
>>285579963Doubtful as asa's dad was in the car, tooWhy would he go with her if she's specifically going to repair their relationship? It doesnt really involve him and makio would be rubbed the wrong way by him being there
>>285575696>I just cant understand not wanting to shower someone with love and care when they need it.There are millions of people who need love and care, yet you're not too eager to do it. And it's natural, because you don't choose who you love.
>>285561146You're right. This episode changed and skipped too much. I'll post of my favorite moments they cut. Seems incomplete to only show one side's reasons for why they broke up. Hopefully they'll adapt this.
More "Asa is a puppy" bullying
I'm surprised they cut this. It's such a subtly important scene.
>>285577108Damn you.>>285578320I even forgot this is the same studio as Natsume. I hope they finish both. But Midorikawa needs to hurry up and finish the manga, I worry about Madara's seiyuu at this point.
>>285581258
I think even the most autistic among us would understand Asa's sleep thing after this
>>285581310
>>285581329
>>285581349
>>285581362
People already thought Makio was being a jerk this episode. Imagine if they didn't cut this.
I thought this anime would be garbage, but it's pretty good
It was funny seeing Asa thinking Makio is angry at her/neglecting her and wondering aloud what she should do for dinner. Then Makio hears her and immediately comes out of her room, quickly whips up something for her to eat, and goes right back to work leaving Asa utterly confused.
The thing I'm most upset about is that they cut Asa throwing a hissy fit while crying. She's so cute. And Makio being even more autistic than in the anime, not even understanding how she hurt her at first.
>>285576432just use an AI
>>285581258I feel like this sentiment will come to the fore with the drama with Minori's diary, at least that's my assumption for why the screenwriter could feel comfortable cutting this out>>285581403This is much harsher impasse between the two women than what was presented in the anime and I'm slightly bummed about the anime "softening" Makio's character because she doesn't act like such jerk again
>>285573721This is honestly a problem in even Western fiction. Therapy as a way to resolve a character's issues isn't as poetic, cool, or interesting as characters somehow naturally getting 80% of the way to being reformed/healed/more self-aware via other narrative tools like conflicts with other characters. Japan seems even more careful about mental health shit. Even something like Spacewalking with You which is a stupid guy with ADHD making friends with an autist never says the words autism or ADHD out loud. I doubt it would've won all those awards and been ranked as #1 for male readers if it had outright said the guy has autism since that turns off a lot of Japanese readers who get the ick from things stated so outright in the same way that some Westerners will get cagey as soon as they sense a story has "woke" elements.
>>285581258Hopefully they bring that in next episode because that is a huge thing to cut, damn. Give's Asa's character some teeth.
>>285581310>>285581329>>285581349>>285581362This is definitely being saved for a climax.
>>285575581Hana-Kimi is amazing in how unhinged it is. There should be more fun anime like this and I say this as a man. Tamon-kun is amazing irrespective of its female gaze elements
Wtf. She was so cute before.
>>285561778Naw, she'll get guidance from the witch about being straightforward about expectations and desires and from the witch's slut friend about not hating herself and bounce around for a year before she finds basically a male version of the witch to live with, fuck and clean for.
Pretty lips.
>>285583169for a boy
>>285577108Makio is so lucky!>>285583169Asa is so lucky!
>>285570859That's just a rational strategy to cooperate with anyone. People trying to influence each other are unconscious. How could you possibly get that from a book instead of learning it in grade school through experimentation?
>>285583367I don't know which country you're living in but I'm sure relations between humans in most countries are founded on one person influencing another in any way, intentionally or not
>>285572643It's not jaded to find comfort in emotional distance. There's a comradery in it. We're all alone together.
>>285573804Do you believe in magic?
>>285577743I mean, yes? Why let your corpse walk around pretending to be you and making money you never get to spend? End it for real.
>>285574120Did you ever think maybe that we're emotionally aware but don't want to play a rigged game with no win state? Next you're gonna tell me what I want and how I feel.
The ending kinda just ran out of steam and peaced out.
>>285583468You interpret it that way to justify your behavior. But you also cut yourself off from people that way. You can steal way less than you can be given.
>>285583772Influence doesn't imply manipulation, ESL-kun.
Makio is such a saint, adopting that idiot even though it goes completely against her personality.
>>285583038She's cuter now.
>>285568808I love this picture
>>285568808Me and my bro watching motorsports
>>285581329>>285581349She was a good mom no matter how I look at it. And much more beautiful than Makio, what a waste.
>>285583604there literally is a win state, that being procreation, and it's not rigged but you refuse to turn the difficulty level down
>>285585328I don't think it works like this, anon-kun
>>285584961Who has the autism (love for autos) or racism (love for races)?
>>285585576go talk to that overweight k-pop stan you turned your nose up at right now
>>285585628>implying someone like that would ever consider dating anon
>waited over an hour before she started eatingdamn she really thought that needing to be together to eat was something that ever crossed Makio's mind that day
>>285585328>there literally is a win state, that being procreationGhetto trash meth addicts with the clap are having children right now. Do you they're winners?
One of the few threads/generals where it's actually a decent idea to read all messages. It just brings a different audience>>285586701Very nice catch
>josei gets an adaptation>theyre skipping a bunch of scenesbut why
>>285587086Does the story fall apart because of that?
>>285587086This show has been pretty successful so far, going by popularity rankings. But the producers probably have an expectation that it won't make that much profit, not enough to justify a season 2. So they're gonna cover as much as they can with a single season.
>>285587086Kowloon Generic Romance isn't josei but that got a single cour full adaptation too (admittedly with an anime original ending). I wonder what's going on with these shorter condensed adaptations.
>>285587086First time finding out about the concept of an adaptation?
>>285587246Except Kowloon adapted at a pace of one episode per volume, while this covered 12 chapters in 4 episodes.Oh my god, you fucking idiots are crying about muh they skipped this page and this panel, how could they do it????
>>285587343People forget that not only adaptations dont have to be 1:1 xerox copies of the original, most often than not they shouldnt be.
>>285587343>Oh my god, you fucking idiots are crying about muh they skipped this page and this panel, how could they do it????The show is about the subtle emotional expressions of its characters. Any plot is secondary to seeing the states of mind of the men and women. If you trim too much we lose too much of that and we start to lose context for what happens later. A plot driven series can cut slice of life material because the point is the storyline, not character interactions in of themselves. This is just a show about people talking too one another.
>>285586968yes, and the fact that they're winning while upstanding gentlemen such as yourself refuse to play is everything wrong with society right now
>>285587246>>285587394This used to be the norm, back in the day
>>285587403Anon not having sex has little to do society being the way it is, at most its a byproduct of it.
>>285561146>>285587086Dump the manga then.
>>285587473because it's society's fault that Gus McJuggalo can get laid but you can't
>>285587628who's that cutie on the left? or is that a spoiler character
>>285587628NTAI was planning on it when the anime ended. Originally it was going to be before to try and gather some buzz for the anime, but I had the wrong date on the premier. At least the show got popular organically otherwise.
>>285587765sweet. don't forget to put storytime in the op, so I can filter it out.
>>285587400>The show is about the subtle emotional expressions of its characters. So is it not being shown properly? Is the adaptation not translating emotions from the manga? Is it missing complexity in their emotions? If not then why the fuck are you whining?
>>285587290No, but I think this is the reason I don't bother with anime anymore. Too many adaptations cut out a bunch of material.
>>285587891I encourage you to look up the definitoin of "to adapt".
>>285587827It misses some important moments regarding characterization.
>>285588181Asa is a cute dog.
>>285570575>when that happened I thought "damn what an asshole">but then I realized I'm literally an asshole.anon going through his character arc
>>285588303Not me. I just remember the mom vaguely sucked ass at it, but not as bad as the dad.
>>285588181Does the adaptation turn Makio into a different character by missing it?
>>285573857In Tokyo they usually go to Nakano or Ebisu or if they're very pretty, Minato
>>285588181This scene and its aftermath that gets resolved trivially in 2 pages is like 1 or 2 minutes in anime time.Time a limited resource if they plan to show almost a full year of their life together, and now they've barely covered a couple of months (probable even less than that since graduation to shingaku) and are already at episode 5.
How come there aren't JP subs for this yet.Did anybody watch the live action?
>>285573760>hit on single women in bars in ShibuyaIf you like tourists, sure go for it.
>>285589291>live actionThe film focuses a lot more on Asa's character and her school life. The "desert" dissociation parts are very lazy. It has zero inner monologue iirc.It's not bad but it's not great.
>>285589291Btw, JP subs for episode 4 are out since almost 3 hours ago.
>>285589291I did
>>285587246>Kowloon Generic Romancethis is ending soon, right? id like to read it
>>285590260well it doesn't appear to have ended in JP yet (latest volume is Vol. 11) and NA volume releases tend to be 13 months behind so I doubt it'll finish in English until 2027 at least.
>>285587650Won't try is a different proposition. They didn't buy the game.
>>285591897cute boy
Holy fuck their chins
>>285590260I'm not very up date but the latest tank was volume 11. The magazine version has enough chapters for a 12th and it looks close to ending, story wise, but no announcement.>>285587246The 3D actress for Kowloon Generic Romance is also the same one who played Maiko in Ikoku Nikki's live action
>>285588181MOSHA MOSHA
>>285587827This scene. Which added a ton to both Asa and Makio's character.
>>285593020cuties, both of them
>>285593020Added what exactly compared to the anime?
>>285593704Now I want a teenager daughter.
>>285593020Why didn't you just link my post? >>285581490
>>285592488Why? Those two characters look nothing alike.
When does the witch show up?
>>285592488>>285594090Wait, that's not even true. Check again. Where did you find that information?
>>285594116Yeah, my bad. Had a racist brain fart when I looked at the casting photos from the manga.
>>285594112She has to figure out who the witch is before time runs out or her parents can't be brought back. She doesn't yet know this.
>>285574413Sorry to break it to you, but there are no girls on the jarman channel. JK doesn't stand for joshi kousei there.
the power of make-up
>>285596116I love my emotionally unavailable husband-wife!
>>285575934>>285575749The male protag is just too distracting in that. I don't necessarily mind a super ikemen but this motherfucker also looks like Gojo from JJK.The girl is pure sex if you like petite tomboys though.
>>285563077>*David Attenborough voice*>Here we see a gathering of wild hags.>The scent of beer and bougie pub food draw >them in from miles around.
What sort of things does Antisocial Aunt write?
>>285596474Can't tell if they were named as LNs, but she writes a fantasy series for girls, like a novelist version of Abi Umeda (Children of the Whales), plus some essays on her blog or wherever iirc.Something unusual is that her small studio has no reference materials, like posters, illustrations, figures or anything of that sort.
>>285564020>>285563077Why do they draw women so tall?Women in Japan are short, and they stop growing between the ages of 13 and 15, so Asa should be the same size as her aunt if they are from the same family. But here it looks like all Japanese adult women are basketball players.Why does this series insist on masculinizing adult women so much?
>>285596644There's piles of books and a damned computer. Why would she have otaku shit?
>>285597425>reference materialsYou missed this part.
>>285597488Books. She writes. She doesn't draw. Also a computer. I'm not gonna guess what you think that term means. Learn my language.
>>285597766Can't you imagine why a fantasy writer may want to have reference stuff like maps, character illustrations, etc. at hand?Also, you don't need to act like an asshole after you failed to notice a key element in my post and compared it to "otaku shit". It was purely an observation, asshole retard.
>>285597973Recalling samples of her writing from the manga, that doesn't really apply. It's more shoujo crap. She relies on her audience having seen or read lotr or any fucking isekai ever for any fantasy settings.
>>285596474BL
>>285598115What do you mean by "does not apply"? A writer wanting to have shit to look at when they don't recall what some character wore or looked like? Where some made up country was located? >It's more shoujo crapWhat are you even doing in this thread except acting like an asshole and spewing thoughtless nonsense?
>>285598256>BLNah, she doesn't look like the fujoshi-type.
>>285592294why is Makio in a permanent state of messy sex hair?
>>285593927These shows are always propaganda to make you want to marry and reproduce.
>>285601162but Makio has Asa, and she neither married nor reproduced
>>285593927>>285601162I did feel that Ikoku Nikki counts as an Abe core anime that makes you want children but it's quite different from the usual. For one, Asa is a teenager which allows it to capture certain intricacies about raising children that most parenting anime won't because the child is usually much younger. The teenage years are a very complex and delicate time. A teenage girl is arguably the most troublesome thing to parent and the show doesn't shy away from that while still making Asa extremely lovable.
>>285597307With relatively minimalist anime art, teenagers can only really be distinguished from adults by size.
>>285596644Yeah, you'd at least expect some stacks of coffee table books for getting inspiration from for settings and the like.
>>285561086Autismo moment.
>>285557556I am glad we finally get another Josei adaptation.
>>285557556just picked up and I wish I'd followed from the start. Every interaction feels very rich and it's interesting to see how Asa's and Makio's particular hangups affect the way they act and react.>>285587765Is it worth watching first with whatever changes are made or are they too big to put off?
>>285572625I think it's the fact that she got a second cup without realizing because of the stressful situation she was in.>>285572817That would make sense if she didn't have to leave her workspace for more coffee.
They both should have been guys and this an incest bl
>>285606414>are they too big to put off?As of now, no big changes. It's a bit... streamlined. Since it's airing now I'd say watch it, but definitely do check out the manga after.
>>285561086She's lucky she looks presentable.
Love this show. I want to protect her smile.
>>285606414Odd question, imo if you have the time there's no particular reason not to also read the manga. It has great color pages at least, genuine GIWTWM for women.
>>285572643>None of them would have that kind of life experience or jaded emotional distance at that age.y-yeah, who would be totally emotionally numb before they even hit their teens, because they realized very early that sharing anything gets you totally ostracized and ridiculed by everyone around you, h-haha, that would be so weird right
>>285607996A lot of people, actually. The stats on child abuse and neglect are pretty rough.
>>285606801excited to see what cute face she makes next episode
>>285574110If you're making sentence cards just run the audio through AI to get a transcript and use actual subs for the timings. Unless the characters are screaming it's like 99% accurate now, I occasionally have to correct missed kana/kanji but it's really good. AI can't do timing at all though so it can't give you actual JP subs but you probably want to be listening to anime rather than reading it anyway.I just finished mining Magipoka lol.
>>285561146Oh really, I guess I could see how scenes would be skipped in this type of work.
I wish I could trust the manga's translation more.This line is totally the opposite of the anime and seems to miss the point of the following flashback.The line could have been changed for the anime of course, but I'm not sure about this TL.
>>285613323Raw page.I don't know Japanese.
>>285596644Children of the whales is shit
>>285613323In context, the previous page has the ex saying "Makio-CHAN huh? That's fresh" because Makio wasn't the type to be called chan. That's the main topic of the conversation, not whether she was a novelist or not.In the manga, the first bubble is quoting what Asa's mother used to say: "Makio-CHAN is a novelist".In the second part, Asa is basically saying "so even though I hardly ever met (Makio) before, I never got the feeling (she wasn't the type of person that would be called -CHAN)". So basically, Asa always heard Makio mentioned as Makio-CHAN.Not a good translation. Maybe they thought that "novelists" in general would not let others use chan, but it's not what the Japanese says.t. studying Jap for 1.25 year (1500 hs put in).
>>285610964A cute.
>>285613762I think they let their image of the flashback meaning that Asa's mother was always ashamed of Makio being a writer change the translation.Instead of the line being about how Asa's mother later became proud of her sister, they mixed up the grammar accidentally to turn it into a denial.
