why is homura so cringe?
All the best characters are cringe!
>>285673500https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cXjcKTRWcgOfficial Akuma Homura theme song.
So...can we poorfags play Exedra yet or still region locked?
>>285673500Cringe or not, she's still going to shoot you to death.
>>285673500Because I haven’t put a ring on her yet. My mistake entirely, I’ll fix it as soon as possible.
>>285673851just use a vpn
>>285673500>CringeYou mean best girl, right?
>>285675017nocringe
>>285675017Indeed. She filtered millions
So who IS everyone's favourite character anyway? And I don't necessarily mean which character do you simp for, but which character who's story or personality do you actually like the most? Though if the two concepts overlap for you that's more then fine.
>>285673500Because she's an chuuni dork.
>>285675664For me it's Sayaka. I feel confused because Homu is objectively the best character but I like Sayaka's fall into despair arc the most.
>>285675838I agree wholeheartedly, though I will say I don't think there's a need to be confused. Sayaka and Homura both are the best written characters in the show, and while the themes of Homura's character are far more grand in scope, Sayaka is the perfect grounded tragedy that counterbalances that grandiosity. The two compliment each other's stories well.
>>285675664>>285675838>goofy tomboy>defends her friends>tangled up in her own feelings and caught between selfishness and righteousness - with the confusion of the two strongly influencing her fall>has a sweet cape>later develops into the graceful and upstanding hero she might have been>also gets SUTANDO PAWA>Punished Sayaka is about to arriveIt's got to be Sayaka, especially after Rebellion. Her scenes did so much for her in so little time.She's exactly my kind of idiot and it's hard for the other megucas to compete. Homura is a close second.
>>285675664Mami = best
I really hope the story is still written as a tragedy in the movie.
>>285673500Because she's too gay for Madoka. It's weird
>>285676567mammies = breasts
>>285676732She's a diddy ahh blud fr
>>285676794I thought we covered this in a previous thread, _Mami_ is the one most likely to be attending Diddy parties.
>>285677034There are too many diddy ahh blud megucas
>>285676731As long homura keeps being blue balled forever it's fine
>>285676739do not sexualize megucas
>>285676346When I rewatched Madoka and saw Rebellion, I had done it all to prepare myself for Punished Sayaka. I immediately vibed with this look hard when the trailer for Kaiten came out of nowhere earlier this month on my recommends. Sayaka stocks looking bigly.
>>285675664easily sayaka
My daughter is badass actually
>>285675664It has to be her. She's one of my favourite characters in all of fiction
>>285675664I will go with hope.
>>285675664Madoka is the patrician's choice. There is nothing greater in the story than total kibou maxxing
>>285673500Because she's a dyke.
Devilmura in game is very hot. I’m also glad Rebellion is there as an event and I don’t have to bother with noncanon shit they decided to make part of the main story for some reason to unlock it.
>>285677466>do not sexualize characters that were made to be sexualized
We’re going to see pregnant homucifer in the new movie
I wonder which meguca will be last to have her firstborn childI don’t trust the common idea that it will be Mami at allMaybe Homura because she will always put Madoka’s needs above her own so she will ensure Madoka gets married to a good man before seeking to do so herself
Is it just me or is Kyouko bigger than Sayaka in Exedra?
>>285674460Vpns are being made illegal in my third world shithole.
so out of breath from a bit of joggingcome oncome on nowbe better>>285675664my beloved homurashe did nothing wrong
Be strong
>>285675664It’s Homura. She is the most heroic, brave, courageous, caring, compassionate, and loving characters I have ever known. I love her and no one can ever hold a candle to her.
I wonder when in February we will get a release date assuming Kaiten ever does come out
>>285675664It's Kyouko and it's not even close, to the point where Walpurgis Kaiten on the horizon is worrying because I just KNOW it's going to sideline her again in favour of the other 4 (except for a token 5 minutes of KyoSaya shipping)>easily the most tragic & vicious of meguca backstories>still desperately wants to be heroic & selfless behind her broken bird persona>tries the hardest of anyone to save sayaka from herself>sacrifices herself in an act of selfless love to end another's sufferingHonestly, even though I like it myself, the KyoSaya ship does a lot to devalue the real relationship the anime built up between these two. I've always been irritated that that's all Rebellion really threw her as a bone. Maybe I'll get lucky and she'll somehow be made central to the plot in Walpurgis Kaiten (lol)
dont kill me
>>285682068There is zero shipping in rebellion and there will be zero shipping in kaiten.
Kyouko is gay as fuck
>>285682362The fact that only gay people believe that makes me think it’s projection.
>>285682068Kyouko needs more focus that isn't just shipping shit. I really hope she actually does something important during Kaitens plot. I'm not even against the obligatory Aoki Ume concessions, I just want her to actually do shit too. At the very least give her a fight or something
>>285682629She just needs more screen time in general.It's true that her and Sayaka get in each other's way in Rebellion but it's not due to muh shipping or Ume or whatever (Ume doesn't even support any ship). It's simply because the community was starved for interactions between post-series Kyouko and Sayaka, since the plot and the structure of most spinoffs made that impossible. Kyouko interacted a lot with Mami in TDS and other side stuff so Rebellion did the same with Sayaka. It's not related shipping shit at all and Rebellion makes it extremely clear there's no shipping between the two. If Kyouko loved Sayaka she wouldn't say she's only temporarily crashing at her place. She wouldn't prefer watching TV by herself over spending time studying with Sayaka. Sayaka wouldn't be crying over Kyosuke at the end. Rebellion doesn't support shipping them at all.In Kaiten it's looking like they won't interact as much, Sayaka looks like she's on a personal quest, my bet is she'll spend most of the movie alone.
>>285675664Sayaka a best
>>285673500Homura is just shy, please understand.
>>285679340Yeah Kyouko is bigger
>>285675664The answer is clearly Kyouko, and while yes, i do "simp" for her (because she's my wife, duh), that's not my only reason for saying this. Design-wise she is objectively superior to all the others and in a league of her own. Magical arrows, swords, shields and guns are pretty common in fiction, but Kyouko's spear with its ability to separate and wrap opponents with it is something i've never seen in anything else. There are some /m/ shows with monsters that have weapon with similar mechanics, but it's never quite the same. Kyouko's weapon and overall design is very original and unique.Her fighting style reflects her personality as well, she is all about hyper offense because of how direct and heated she is. And yet just like her character there is more depth to it as well, with her illusion abilities being locked away. Being so reckless but having a way to avoid the usual drawbacks of recklessness, aka being frail, by simply not getting hit thanks to illusion magic is very OP and i love it.Her arc is also good, i like the fact that she was strong willed enough to not witch out, to not start hating her father or her past in general because of what happened, she still believes that he was right despite losing his mind at the end. Even when she was putting on a nihilistic facade, that wasn't out of hate for her family but rather her belief that selflessness can never bring anything good. I think it's a shame there was never a proper Kyouko-centric prequel, most of the time prequels are mostly about Mami. She's a very interesting character and her backstory has strong implications that could be very relevant these days, and i wish it was explored further.Her personality is also the best, typically the kind of girls that's instant best girl in every series. Especially when they manage to make them hot which they definitely did here.
>>285683877You forgot to mention her canonical overwhelming gayness
>>285685667I don’t mention ack lies
>>285673500She's too gay
Akuma the lesbian lust Goddess
>>285686196>lesbianShe's bi actually. Porn pillow proved it
Uh oh c/u/ck melty!
>>285686334>Porn pillow proved itHow exactly?
break already?
>>285686369Fingering
>>285686196This happens in Kaiten I work at SHAFT
>>285675664Kyoko on both fronts, I love her and her story.
Tomoe Mami’s Mundane Everyday Life is an extremely popular spinoff within the Madoka community and widely regarded as an integral part of the multiverse and pretty much a canon sequel.
Is this the edgy lesbian magical girl anime?
What set off the yuridditor this time
>>285686721Who knows, /u/Tabbender gets set off by everything
>>285686755Yea you do
>>285673500To this day Madoka is the only magical girl anime I can get into. Al the others are either clearly aimed at little girls or gay shit for trannies. It’s like Madoka is the only one that actually understands the genre’s core audience
>>285686854This is the faggiest thing said in any Madoka thread ever, congratulations. Even the two actual fags are straighter than what you just said
>>285686997Feel free to give me recsSpec Ops Asuka looked interesting but /u/shit ruins it
>open mspaint/tegaki/whatever>draw your favorite meguca>post itGo
I draw worse than kindergarten child.
>>285690778Just draw. It doesn't matter if you're good or bad, don't worry about that
>>285690682Have an ugly, tiny Homura that I made
>>285690682I've done enough drawing for one day, so here's what I drew for the Christmas waifu thread.
Rebellion is very good. Never understood why some people disliked it in the past. Rebellion is almost good as the series.
>>285692168If it's a picture of Homura, how could it possibly be ugly?
>>285692168Now in collage form>>285692198She is not as cute as she should be. I have failed her
>>285692196>Rebellion is almost good as the series.I've always considered Rebellion to better than the series honestly
Walmart night rising leaked ending
>>285692945Madoka Kaname (Male) is real???
>>285693021Ye
>>285693021Not sure what in that pic reminded you of Madoka lol
>>285693488>He doesn't know that the original doujin MDL was based on had Homura marry a man named Madoka Kaname
>>285693597I know, but that pic wasn’t related to that spinoff.
I know is extra content not canon but.The last content in Exedra about Sayaka makes her look like a cuck, even more. Well, leaving jokes, it actually destroyed again a possible future of Sayaka and Kyosuke together imo.
Good news Sayaka haters dont play exedra.
>epstein lurked /u/How big is his meguca folder?
>>285694059It's interestingl, but how can your post survive and me offtopic get deleted fast?
>>285694059He was the one spamming "Madoka a shit" on /jp/.
>>285694059Geeeeg do yuricucks really??
>>285686854>>285687667Cool bait.This is the part where we tell you Madoka has /u/ in it, and you sperg out and post that one interview. I hope you have fun playing out your autistic fixation.
>>285695094You forgot the part where "we" is a massive lolcow
Tabb is in the Epstein files
>>285695269>ACK logic
>>285695463Believing there's yuri in Madoka is indeed ACK logic yeshttps://wiki.puella-magi.net/User_talk:Cf
>>285695463That's why they call him ACK 2.0
>>285695551Agreed. Tabb is a lolcow.
who is blud talking to
This is a yuri thread for a yuri anime
What is he talking about XDDD bro lost it
Kyouko is the gayest
I miss old 4chan.
Tabb is mentally ill
>>285695734You don't get it anon, anyone who reacts negatively to me replying to myself and flooding the threads has to be my boogeyman from twitter, everybody else thinks spam is normal.
>>285695734Ironic
Well anyway if anyone who isn't a fucking schizo actually wants a more male-targeted magical girl anime to try then Symphogear is right there. It's tonally the exact opposite of Madoka, though.For a more traditional option, consider Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha.
We love yuri here
>>285695873Doesn't Nanoha actually unironically have /u/shit in it tho?
>>285695873I don’t get what’s so controversial about thinking Homura and Sayaka make. Cute couple.
>>285695782>It's my boogeyman replying to himselfACK logic
>>285695926There's no controversy, some people like yuri and that's the end of it. There is a particularly retarded sperg that made it his mission to convince everyone here that yuri is actually canon to the series despite the overwhelming evidence of the contrary (but homusaya isn't what he supports). It's hardly a controversy when it's really just one schizo who doesn't make any posts here outside of his retarded crusade.
>>285673500When will this movie come out?
A lot of people agree that my boogeyman is deeply ill and loves talking to himself.
>>285695919>>285695926I don't care about your scubwar.
>>285695926It all started when turbo autistic yurifags started seething at FFM. Yuri is for FFM. Rejecting that idea is how lgbt tourists were able to invade their spaces
>>285696123Cute throuple of lesbians.
>>285696123I don't either. That's why I said unironically, aka putting all this shit aside. Madoka is good because it's straight and clearly aimed at men. As a man I don't want to watch gay shit that's made to exclude me because that's the author's fetish
>>285694059Who could've guessed that the most disgustingly evil people on earth are madoka era yuri tourists
>>285695873fate is sex
Another thread derailed by Kyoukojogger
>>285696165Yuri isn't for FFMFFM is for FFM
>Anons claims to like FFM here>But never posts FFM hereI wonder if they really like FFM or are larping.
Comfy hours coming.
>>285696523Not really, if anything that's always when he spams the most.
Nietzsche is inferior to Stirner imo
>>285696565In many ways Nietzsche was kind of like the original redditor.
>>285696553A retard discussion is worse, retarded discussion multiplies the damage of the spam, at least x2.As long as one side is sleeping there will be more comfy moments.
Jesus christ son of God have mercy on meAlso if there's any angel in your host resembling Madoka in nature please have it watch over me
>>285696597Nietzsche was a troubled man deeply concerned with life and beauty. I know it's popular to dunk on him, but comparisons to reddit are unfair.
>>285677466Mami and Saya were built for the sex industry
>>285696774Well he insulted my man Immanuel Kant by calling him the chinaman of koningsberg and his original piano compositions are very mediocre. All in all his writings have had very little impact on my spiritual and intellectual life. He diagnosed plenty of issues accurately, but his proposed solutions are crackship-tier.Madoka as a character and as a show points towards the real solution.
>>285696760Who are you talking with?I wish the things getting better for you anon.
>>285696942Talking to the sky. I wish Madoka put a plaster on me just like in your picrel. Thank you anon you're kind.
>>285697018Everything will be better.
So it actually became more comfy.
>>285697976chu~
>>285698385
>>285698526It all feels surreal how everything happened because of that one damn kitty
>>285694059release the meguca files!
>>285698550It's okay be a magical girls to save a kitty. Otherwise, kitty would die and that would be too sad.
>>285690682I'm not a very good artist but I tried!>>285682068I do believe that Kyouko fans are honestly the worst off sometimes. I agree that while I like Sayaka and Kyouko when they hang out together, sometimes it feels like Kyouko is a bit of an accessory to Sayaka's story rather then an equal part of it the way that Madoka and Homura are for each other. I'm confident that Sayaka is gonna play a big role in Kaiten but I hope you guys get some cool stuff for Kyouko too, you've been starving for a long time.
This is a yuri thread.
>>285699771fake news
>>285699921But we all love yuri here.
>>285675664I am a Justicefag and love Sayaka
>>285682068>>285699722It's tough because Kyouko is a deliberate counterpoint to the rest of the cast.She's already had her trauma and most of her character development prior to meeting Sayaka and Madoka. She just happens to be built different - she's one of those people who can take hardship on the chin and keep going. Maybe it leaves her embittered and cynical, but there's very little to suggest she's at risk of witching out. And as mentioned, she's still a heroic goober deep down.She "falls" without succumbing, and ends up going out fairly happily on her own terms once she reconnects with her idealism. What else is there for her to go through?She's in some sense too powerful for her own setting.
>>285699968Based>>285700609That's an interesting way to look at it. I've always felt like Kyouko was the one character in this show that could be translated almost 1 to 1 into a normal magical girl show and still remain mostly the same, with the same appeal to her character. Still give her a sad backstory (with a bit less edge) and have her show up in like episode 20 or whatever to be the "mean" magical girl that turns out to actually be nice in the end. But in Madoka Magica she's in a universe that's actually meaner then any "mean" magical girl actually could be so instead of turning over to the good side and learning to be kind again the sheer despair of the world she lives in kind of just pushes her back towards the light through sheer momentum. Practically the same arc, and the personality is the same, but the context around her is different in both scenarios.
>>285700965>the sheer despair of the world she lives in kind of just pushes her back towards the lightI don't think it's anything like that at all, actually. I think it's Sayaka's justicefaggotry(affectionate), and her self destruction that really wakes Kyouko back up. Notably much of Sayaka's spiral involves isolating herself and refusing aid - another point of reflection. It's specific, not general.Regarding the influence of the crapsack Madoka world, I think that's the only reason she's as "mean" as she is when we find her. In another universe I doubt she'd sink that low. Kyouko's a girl of uncommon will.Also, someone mentioned the mythic/mundane contrast between Homura and Sayaka earlier. It seems like Kyouko and Madoka are doing something similar, only for ascent instead of descent.
Eroha will be in the movie and cuck homura
>>285699722Very cute Sayaka, anon
>>285701986>Also, someone mentioned the mythic/mundane contrast between Homura and Sayaka earlier. I think that might have been me, and I definitely agree that there are a lot parrallels between Madoka and Kyouko in how they pair with Homura and Sayaka respectively. Also, when I was refering to how shitty the world is and Kyouko's characterization within it, I was trying to imply less about Kyouko specifically and more the character archetype that Kyouko is based on, i.e the "villain that gets redeemed and joins the cast". Kyouko could still be Kyouko even in Precure and be a fun person to watch. Sayaka would be boring as shit in a normal magical girl story since they wouldn't be able to write something nearly as complex, she'd probably just be the justicefag(affectionate) but for real without really getting challenged by it in any way. I feel the same way about Homura and Mami, their failings are what makes them great. Madoka and Kyouko are both much closer to the "ideal" of a magical girl, if that makes any sense.>>285702146Thank you anon! I wish I could draw something a step above "child reads how to draw manga book tier" but that shit is hard work yo!
>Missed the Steins;Gate fag sperg out againsweet
>>285673816Official Mado Homu theme song.
>>285702926The S;G tards have been struggling to stop these threads ever since Sayakachad joined
>>285703010God bless that SayakafagAnyone that get the Steins;Gate fag and the other retard to shut the fuck up deserves to feel eternal happiness
Steins;Gate is what a time travel anime ought to be. Madokafags wouldn't get it
>>285703207S;G sucks, there's nothing to get.
>>285702225>if that makes any senseYeah man, I think I understand now. Sorry for misreading you.
>>285703326Go back to Plebbit. You will find more people with your taste there
>>285703504Shits;gay is reddit
>>285703504I know you're wrong but if reddit didn't like S;G that would be one of their only good opinions.
>>285703504Reddit loves steins gate and yurishit, as much as you’re trying to pretend it doesn’t.
I'm somewhat worried that the new movie is just going to be more setup and will end in a way that lets them continue milking the series instead of ending it in a satisfying way. Imagine if it ends in a stalemate between good and evil. That's what I'm getting from all of the advertising and spoken intent for the series going forward. Am I delusional?
>>285703688>Am I delusional?I think it will be set up in a way that they COULD continue it if they needed to, but otherwise serves as an actual ending to both Madoka and Homuras stories I don't think Urobuchi would leave the ending entirely as setup for the future if this is his last piece of work related to Madoka
>>285703504This made the Redditors really mad. Yet Steins;G/a/te remains an /a/cclaimed cl/a/ssic.
The yurisissy is replying to xerself again…
>>285703504Madokaniggers btfo
>>285703688I'm scared about adding new characters, especially as the green haired one seems to be a gacha game OC donutsteel.My hope is it's a conclusion for Homura, whatever that means. Presumably she will either get to finally rest somehow, or else becomes locked in a tragic and permanent time loop that causes the events of the series.No matter what happens, I think a true "happily ever after" would be a massive betrayal, and spoil the tone of the series. This is supposed to be a world where miracles are possible, but not without steep cost.
>>285703877My thought for an ending would be a total nullification. Miracles have brought nothing but suffering on the whole, and all of this was caused by the meddling of alien actors who never should have been here to begin with. I don't buy their BS that humanity needed them in order to advance. Let fate run its course. We have no need of miracles and wish granters.
>>285703798>>285703666Madokafaggots all love yuri. It's a yuri anime after all. That's why it was only popular on Plebbit and Tumblr with queers, unlike Steins;Gate which has universal appeal, especially on 4chan
>>285703898The main character of Shits;Gay kisses a guy btw
>>285703877>>285703897I'm fine with any ending as long as both Homura and Madoka aren't suffering, and are both genuinely happy, by the end. I just want them both to be happy. Let everything else go to shit for all I care
>>285703935A lizard girl wrote this post.
>>285703972Fuck I've been caught
>>285703898But the only person in these threads who defends yuri fucking hates Madoka (it’s you)
Behead all Steins;Gate fags
>>285675664One character in that show is the ultimate magical girl in all of fiction.She started as a weak and bullied girl who was sick and good for nothing. But she became the strongest and the bravest magical girl of love and courage.Homura Akemi is everything that a pure hero of love should be, and she is basically a saint who did nothing wrong.And if that is the form that this takes at its ultimate conclusion, the so be it.
>>285704189The ultimate lesbian in all of fiction too
>>285704253Homura is straight and loves Madoka.If you think that Homura is gay then that is because you yourself can not comprehend love because you are without natural love and completely dead for all spiritual things.
>>285704283There is no heterosexual explanation for her actions
>>285704146They are so gay
>>285704310>>285704253Steins;Gate is shit
>>285704253>>285704310>>285704327Meat veggies meat veggies meat veggies meat veggies meat veggies meat veggies
>>285704310You don’t even like this franchise. Fuck off.
>>285704310>love is the same as desireThis is such an evil thing to say. In essence this right here is not just mean, stupid and ignorant. It is evil.You shall not covet.you shall love.The one without spirit does not understand; for for him to love means to covet and he does not understand love.>AiYoSomething you could never possibly understand, Kyubey.
>>285704310True lol
Traps aren't gay, yuri is
>>285704410To love is to covet. Homura sure is greedy. If only she could realise that and embrace evil, then she would be happy
>>285704310>>285704410Even if Homura's love was to be retconned into being romantic in nature, there is no possible explanation for that element to exist outside of it being just a minor part of what her love is. I can buy some element of it existing but it is beyond clear that Homura wouldn't act on it regardless simply because it interferes with her primary desire (Have Madoka be alive and happy). Of course, Homura's secondary desire of being friends with Madoka exists, but even then it's pretty clear she hates herself for having that desire. There is likely no way for her to fully act on the idea of friendship, with what she sees as essentially a god, unless Madoka is the one to essentially force it onto her. We should expect the same logic to hold if we assume Homura has any inkling on romantic feelings, and since there is little inclination of Madoka having romantic feelings to Homura, it is entirely unlikely for Homura to ever act in a romantic manner to Madoka.I do think this is part of the reason why retconning Homura into having a genuinely romantic attraction to Madoka would be far, far easier than with any of the other girls. But even then, it would still need to be retconned in, and be essentially non-expressed simply because of who Homura is, and how she sees Madoka.
>>285704488In other words she's gay for Madoka
If Homura loved Madoka romantically she would have turned herself into a guy when she rewrote the universe no? Like legitimately, if her goal was to hook up with Madoka, name one reason why this wouldn’t be the best course of action to take, unironically.The yurifag narrative only makes sense if Homura is a complete fucking retard.
>>285704603She's gay not a tranny, Madoka is gay too like all women so it works and Homura is in fact completely retarded
If Homura was straight she would date a boy in her new rewritten world.
>>285704649Good point. Instead she just follows Madoka around like the gay stalker she is
>>285704310Trvke
>>285704587Exact opposite of what I said. Homura will never act on any romantic feelings that could get retconned into existing unless Madoka also gets retconned into being a Dyke, which isn't going to happen.
>>285704633Gays are trannies. Same shit.>>285704649She will
>>285704684That art depicts what will happen in Kaiten, I know because I work at SHAFT
>>285704649Homura hates herself too much to date anyone. Besides, even if she wanted to she has more important shit to do like making sure Madoka is happy
Plot twist: The anon obsessed with ensuring media is "verified straight for straight males like myself" is actually a mentally ill pooner trying to reassure herself.
>>285704310Most people agree
>>285704780An interesting narrative. Maybe that's why she constantly talks about trannies.
Bro replied to his own post THREE TIMESThese redditors are INSANE
>>285704310Good point, upvoted
I know everyone here is just shitposting and no one actually cares, but Homura absolutely hating herself and making herself suffer needlessly is like the single most obvious part of rebellion.It doesn't matter if she's a dyke or not or whatever other garbage you people love to talk about, because she would rather shoot herself in the head then let herself be happy in any sort of prolonged relationship. Not even in the romantic sense of the word, just as friends with the other girls. The end of Rebellion makes this perfectly clear that even if part of her does want to be happy with Madoka and the others, she WILL let herself suffer in their place because it is required of her. Even if she wants Madoka's friendship/love/whatever, both she and the universe will not let her have it. Everything during and after the scene at the end of Rebellion where Madoka and Homura are in the hallway makes it clear that Homura would rather let herself suffer any kind of pain than make Madoka possibly remember again.Homura doesn't give a shit, because to give a shit requires her to give a shit about herself, which she genuinely can't do
>>285704603The yuritroon will never ever address this, even though it would clearly be the most rational course of actions to take if a nigh-omnipotent gay girl wanted to seduce a straight girl, like he claims is what’s happening in Rebellion.Um, I mean, they all collectively will refuse to address it.
>>285704603>>285704863Homura hates herself too much to date anyone and doesn't think she deserves to have any form of relationship with any of the girls. It doesn't matter what she is because this fact remains regardless of what she wants to fuck
>>285704846>because to give a shit requires her to give a shit about herself, which she genuinely can't doTrue. Homura is inherently selfless and is fundamentally unable to act selfishly.
>>285704863It was already addressed intelligently and logically
>>285704888But the yurifag narrative is that the love that compelled her to take Madoka’s powers was romantic love and a desire to have Homura for herself. What you’re saying still contradicts this.
>>285704892Not according to anyone who lives outside of your head
Why waste time analyzing this kusoanime? Steins;Gate, now that's an anime worth analyzing
>>285704889>True. Homura is inherently selfless and is fundamentally unable to act selfishly.This is bait right? I'm being baited.
>>285704910Well that narrative is wrong then and I am right
>>285704892True but she can't address its superior logic so she's pretending it doesn't exist
99% of people don't understand her, including anyone who wants to reply to this post
>>285704863Why are you so obsessed with "troons"? Why can't you stop being mentally ill?
>>285704971100% of people who post slop don’t understand her.
>>285704977yuriSHIT will never winhomura is straight just like me and this anime is for straight males such as myself not YURISHITTERS
>>285704939No, not you.
>>285704999Please go to a therapist.
>>285704996I understand her better than you do
>>285704889>>285704846>>285704760>>285704684>>285704603>>285704488The thing is that Homura can not imagine a future where she is happy with Madoka.But don’t make the mistake of assuming that only because Homura is willing to sacrifice the one thing she truly wants in the world: namely to be close to Madoka,In order to save Madoka.It does not mean that she wouldn’t cry tears of happiness if this was made to be possible.Currently the thing that is making it impossible are the self destructive tendencies of Madoka in that she will immediately sacrifice herself if she learns the truth because she thinks herself to be worthless.My take is that Homura will teach Madoka to love herself in her world and get rid of her self destructive tendencies.And once Madoka grows out of that, she can release her and they can be happy forever.At that point Homura’s black feathers will turn to white.And they will both be saints. And possibly Christ will also return (as sensei said in rebellion(!!!)) and rule forever because someone has to bear all the curses and it sure can’t be Homura forever.
>>285705048Your god doesn't exist, Christcuck
>>285705048Well yeah, Homura wants to be happy with Madoka but ultimately can't because of the circumstances both girls are now in. If anything it seems like the plot of Kaiten will be between the parts of Homura that would want to suffer for Madoka and the parts that would rather just be around Madoka. But ultimately both parts of her are still Homura so I can see some form of reconciliation happening alongside Madoka remembering >>285705066Nah fuck off retard. That Anons cool and is a real Homurachad.
>>285705036Smug dyke
Why the fuck are names shared between boards again?
>>285705109To make anons look stupid
>>285705094The thing is that the climax of Kaiten will probably be:Madoka says: Homura chan is just Homura chan. And then the parts merge into one and Homura accepts herself.Or the even more based one is that Homura kills all parts of her off which aren’t love.And then only love remains.But THEN Madoka accepts her, and Homura can not believe her own happiness because she ended up getting what she wanted all along but suppressed with everything that she could.>>285705066You can tell that to him yourself on the day of judgment
Ultimately I just want Homura to be happy
>>285704996>>285705021You are being summoned https://archived.moe/gif/thread/10501788/
>>285705223You are the only person in the world who says "summoned" like this.ONLY person who goes "lol xddd i ''summoned'' ack".
>>285705263You summoned yourself itt tho
These threads are only ever good when I'm around. You all ought to be unfathomably grateful that I bless them with my presence.
>>285705321hit or miss
>>285705364SayakaGOD...
>>285705364Rintab...
>>285705364A top quality poster whose posts are always good…
>>285705364Epstein...
>>285703877You will love the new Megucas, you will roll the New Megucas.
The new megucas are the megucas that formed walpurgis, it's the only possible explanation that doesn't completely fuck the vibes of the story. Anything else will just be "hurr durr muh epic OC"
We love Steins;Gate here
Yuri, atheism and steins gate are reddit-coded interests. If you like all three of these things you have a 100% likelihood of being a redditor.
Homu
>>285705928It's a great anime. Better than Madoka by far
Who was Epstein's favourite meguca?
>>285707161I could see him spend hours every day making posts about Homura being gay
Shits;Gay is the gayest shit imaginable
AnywaysFuck all Steins;Gate fagsFuck all offtopic postersFuck all retards who use these threads for anything but talking about Madoka
>>285705928S;G is dogshit
>>285707652I didn't know dogshit could be so kino
>>285682068>>285682629Kyouko was vitally important in rebellion though?
>>285686854>>285695734I'm telling you they are llms man. The schizos where real but these posts are just automated spam bots the mods will ignore you reporting.
>>285708013Yeah I know Steins;Gate schizo is using LLMs to spam his yuri war thing. What a lazy fag like the rest of his fanbase.
>>285708064Why are you always seething over Steins;Gate? Is it because it's better than your yuri tranime?
>>285705109To discourage attention whores from using them madoka chan
>>285708108Your mc kisses guys. Fucking faggot ass anime
>>285708108Because S;G is trash and its fans are annoying spamming faggots.
>>285708108Not even the Steins;Gate threads like Steins;Gate
>>285708410I'm just tired of you spamming threads to try and make your shit time travel series look good (it doesn't).
>>285708410PMMM is far more culturally relevant and widely discussed than Reddit;Gate, whose fans ever only bring it up in the context of seething about other shows. No-one cares about time travel. People care about themes and character arcs.
demons seething at a show about love
>>285708410Okabe dates and kisses menGo back to crying about some retard from twitter you actual homo
>>285708013You should go to check the Eva thread. Schizo has been seething for 3 days not because one retard keeps bumping the thread. Jannies have not shown up oncw
What exactly Madoka did better than S;G?
>>285708633Everything
>>285708633The characters have far more personality and the plot is more interesting and less predictable
We HATE Steins;GAY here
>>285708633better premise better plotbetter characters better writing better voice actingbetter tone and better stylebetter structurebetter cinematographybetter visual stylebetter editing and pacingbetter audio qualitybetter longevity and sustainabilitybetter rewatchabilityits better to play the S;G visual novel than watching the anime
>>285708756Reddit;Gate fags need to die. They are subhuman
>>285708633It has yuri.
>>285708186Technically our MC also kisses guys. But she’s a woman so it’s straight
>>285708633Characters are straight
>>285708633Characters are gay
IT probably loves Steins;Gate
literally one single guy lmao
>>285708967What are you talking about schizo?
>>285708960Okabe kisses men btw
This whole debacle of a Steins;Gate tard spamming these threads for years because he can't cope with another anime being better than his doodoo has to be proof that Steins;Gate is only liked by mentally deficient people.
>>285708991Meant for >>285708967
No one even remembers Madoka. Kaiten will probably flop because only trans Plebbitors will go to see it
>>285709127Really? When are you planning on going, yuribro?
>>285709007I doubt RT and 3l are the same guy but it would be so fucking hilarious if they were. Does 3L call TB Akemi or does his brain function enough to recognize the Frank and the Pole are different people
>>285709007I thought Steins;Gate fag and Rintab were different people
>>285709127>Projecting about your shitty upcoming Steins;Gate remakeIf you're lucky the remake will be as good as the original Steins;Gate (4/10).
>>285709202RT fucked off for a week after everyone started shitting on Shits;Gay after the scene 0 meltdown back in NovemberI've considered that it's possible he is a different guy but I really, really doubt it.
>>285709300Your MC kisses a guy
I wipe my ass with Steins;gate.
>>285709202Different people who have the exact same posting styles and opinions, never post anything on topic and only post about yuri and the twitterfag both of them are obsessed with, and always show up and leave at the same timeYeah sounds believable, just like the countless people telling Akemi to stop shitposting
Okabe kisses guys, Madoka kisses girls. It's clear which is better.
Madoka >>>>>>>> Steins;Gay
>>285709368>Hates Madoka because it beat Steins;Gate in some shitty competition or whatever that oldfag said happened>Decides to go to Madoka threads>Became Apple's bitch>Became obsessed with the fucking redditor that keeps showing up here>Now spends all his time being a sperg in Madoka threads>No one, absolutely no one from his BF to Apple and the other Yurifags, to everyone else in between likes him Sad life honestly
Another day well spent for rintab the Übermensch Nietzsche would be proud
Can this thread get back to normal now?
Christianity is for slaves because it says I shouldn’t spend my entire day on a thread for a series I hate to make spam posts about it being yuri
There's a non 0 posibility that Epstein was discussing Madoka in 2011 /u/Do u think that he's a madohomu or a kyosaya guy?
>>285709708I'm going to believe he was a MadoSayafag because the implication of who he would have argued with is funnyAlso he would have fucking hated rebellion. Half the time Jeffery types like he is actually retarded and illiterate, so there is no way he understood Rebellion
>>285709818As funny as the thought of Epstein's watching Madoka is, I think he probably was the type who only cared for the online smut produced for it and not the show itself. The anime alone would've been too highbrow for him.
>>285709915Yeah probably, but the idea that he loved all of the series he gooned to is simply to funny of an idea for me to not believe
>>285709915Well yeah, he browsed /u/, of course he never actually watched Madoka
>>285709915I doubt he know any anime beyond the mainstream. Yes, he only randomly looked for hentai, it sems. He sent futa FNAF porn in /gif/ to someone wich is actually funnier and we know that because he linked the post itself, for /u/, he only send the /u/ board itself not a specific post there, people speculate avout madoka because it was in 2011He was a Pokemon GO and Fortnite player btw
>>285675664Homura > Kyouko > Madoka > Sayaka > MamiThe space rat comes in dead last after literal shit and slapping a hungry lions balls.
>>285677466
>>285682068>I've always been irritated that that's all Rebellion really threw her as a boneShe was the one that Homura turned to when she needed help.
>>285675664Sayaka has freaking cutlasses, great color scheme, cool outfit. She's obviously the best. I like her story too, but mostly it's about her looking cool and being cool.Homura just having a bunch of guns is very funny though.I would have liked Madoka more if she had actually gotten to be a super girly magical girl like she wanted initially.
>>285675664Homura>Sayaka>Madoka>Kyouko>MamiThey all have their merits of course, but Homura and Sayaka's arcs in particular are especially compelling and unique. I will say it does feel somewhat unfair to the other girls given how much further development Homura underwent in Rebellion. Urobuchi really doubled down on the fact that Homura is the stealth protagonist of Madoka in that film.
>>285711927i want to kiss the lizard
>>285709573Madoka is about hope and sacrifice pretty Christian core >for slavesPic
None of these ideas about the schizo make any sense. Why would someone be a regular in threads for years if they hate Madoka? Why did Steins;Gate only start getting mentioned recently? Is he a yurfag or not? I don't get it.
>>285713573Stop gaslighting, how dumb do you have to be to try and walk it back at this point.
I really need to get around to making an infodoc/infopost about the Steins;Gate faggot
>>285713573As someone who has been 2 years in this threads , i see people are telling crazy things.People started to make fun of schizos here way before May or April of this year ,but now they all blaming one person and lately they are blaming a supposed SGfag.I dont denying anything, but i prefer to doubt about things told here.
>>285713710I'm not your bogeyman.
I would like to have akuma Homura but i need to save for Jeanne D'Arc. She and Madoka are the best of whole franchise.
Love you meguca
>>285714323I think it's just people seeing patterns that aren't there and a schizo capitalizing on that to derail threads.
>>285714342I dont know if trust your words. You need to prove you are not a "bogeyman". Like me, i proved im not a boogieman.
>>285713573>Why would someone be a regular in threads for years if they hate Madoka?Mental Illness and or multiple Steins;Gate fags>Why did Steins;Gate only start getting mentioned recently?Oldfag mentioned he knew a SGfag was shitting up these threads after TB had a meltdown in October. Since then a lot of what he said about 3l and TB has been disregarded unless you take the view that every shitpost in these threads are caused by him and or LLM's. Personally I don't think either have much of a connection to the SGfag outside of the SGfag being obsessed with the redditor. People now consider RT to be the SGfag because of a meltdown in November causing RT to stop posting for almost 2 weeks.>Is he a yurfag or not?Pretty much although no other Yurifag likes him (No non-Yurifag too, to be fair). He used to simp for one of the bigger Yurifags in these threads. Although both he and the fag he is obsessed with like FFM so I doubt the more autistic Yurifags would consider him to be one of them
>>285713972You should because I don't understand your posts.
>>285714614I don't think it's possible. Some schizo will always accuse you in these threads...
>>285714581Some of the shit is pretty clearly bullshit but there is enough to reasonably assume that>1These threads are being shit up by multiple dedicated schizos >2One of these schizos likes Steins;Gate and doesn't like Madoka Magica>3The same schizo is also obsessed with the other really bad schizo who currently shits up these threads>4Intensive Shit posting about Steins;Gate + reporting tends to make the SGfag fuck offFrankly I just want all the fucking schizos to be gone already. If screaming about Steins;Gate will help get one of them to leave sometimes then there is no reason not to
>>285714674You need just to put name "not boogieman", to prove you are not one.
>>285714619I haven't seen any evidence of it being a SGfag to begin with. The schizo not posting for 2 weeks is just circumstantial and it doesn't seem like he started posting about Steins;Gate until these last few threads.
>>285714767Pretty much.I still think that ALL of the spam is the Steins;Gate fag but the important thing is that calling Steins;Gate shit (which it is) really bothers him, and it's the only way I know of to hurt or otherwise punish the schizo.
>>285714783Lets see if this works
>>285714581>I think it's just people seeing patternsMy problem is that people started seeing patterns around April of this year, why they started noticing patterns so late?I think if Nagisafag and Kyschizo visited the thread a lot, most people would think those are RT too.There was also another "guy", but i dont want to talk about him now.
>>285714895Based. Hahaha.
>>285714821Shitting on Steins;Gate pisses him off which is enough for most Anons here. Really, ever since we did that poll he's been really fucking pissy>>285714860>I still think that ALL of the spam is the Steins;Gate fagAt the very least I can't believe both 3l and TB would also be him. The RT shit and Steins;Gate faggotry being made by the same guy makes sense to me but the idea that those two are also him doesn't workout in my mind.
Clearly someone is shitting up the threads on purpose. There are probably actual schizos who are easy to bait into also shitting up threads and sometimes shit up threads on their own, but there's someone who baits them when they're here and pretends to be them when they're not. Maybe it is this "Steins;Gate fag" who's behind it but it would be exactly the threadshitter's MO to talk about some Steins;Gate fag all the time, bait him, and pretend to be him whenever he's not here, and at this point I wouldn't be surprised if the threadshitter just completely invented some of the fags who have supposedly been ruining the threads for years.
News when?
>>285714939>April of this year,I meant april 2025.
>>285715020Before AI and LLMs became a thing 2 years ago Steins;Gate fag was the one doing the ack spam in these threads. That's my basis for it.
>>285715097Could be five minutes, could be 28 days.
>>285715020Does it though? It seems too have this thread but if someone wanted to derail the thread, it's an obvious choice to pretend to be this SGfag.
It's weakness of anonymous system, anyone can pretend to be other. Trolls in 4chan? Impossible! IDs are the solution but most of /a/ hated ID in the other site. So never will be solution here. I would like a version of /a/ with ID.
>>285715092Yeah it just doesn't feel organic. Other threads don't have this problem nearly as bad with so few active posters.>>285715110ACK has been completely consistent these past few years. You're just a schizo or the schizo I think.
It's all so tiresome
This fucking Steins;Gate faggot is actually going to walk back his spergout which happened right IN THIS SAME THREAD, and he's probably going to get away with it because he can pretend to be 5 different people that agree with each other whenever he wants.
>>285715385I changed my name, stop being a schizo.
>>285715334Is him a 3rd "Not boogieman" or im becoming schizo?
>>285715092>and at this point I wouldn't be surprised if the threadshitter just completely invented some of the fags who have supposedly been ruining the threads for years.At the very least both 3l and TB are verifiably real, and there is almost certainly someone on the other site that is fucking obsessed with bringing up TB for whatever fucking reason. >>285715334>>285715334>Other threads don't have this problem nearly as bad with so few active posters.Assuming you aren't just that faggot begging for more attention then I'd have to agree with you on that. The longer I've been here the more I've felt confident in the conclusion that there is something genuinely, like mentally, wrong with this place. I'm planning to leave a few months after Kaiten comes out and threads go back to being shit
>>285715473Becoming schizo. Tho if you're still in these threads you probably became schizo long ago...
>>285715548im becoming schizo.Anyway if you felt addressed by random posts you actually give the reason to the anon.
>>285715526I'm not convinced Kaiten eon't just make threads worse. If any ship is confirmed it's over
>>285715526>there is something genuinely, like mentally, wrong with this place.Ok but tell, who is more mentally wrong crazy?The schizo or the guy who believe the schizo theories of other schizos?
>calls you niggerHow do you respond without sounding mad?
I just want to talk about my wife in peace.
Some anons have luck they have wife to cooking for them and care for them.I have no luck, even in Exedra my last rolls only blues and pink.Very unluck am i.
All these free roll and only get blue and pinks... The game hate me now.
>>285716307>>285716341Don't into gambling, then.
>>285715526I frequent the hippo thread. The schizo obsessed with TB/Kyoukonigger is definitely real and for a long time he tried to convince all ACK baiters to join him in his personal crusade against TB, until he decided to try and bait him in these threads by himself. He tries to bait Kyoukoschizo like one would ACK and thus his posting style is very noticeable. He is a politics brained Nietzschean/egoist whatever and he very frequently starts melting down about how he is more right wing and based than TB because he rejects "communitarianism" and Christianity. If someone starts spamming "X is for slave" and attempting to ironically attack his bogeymen with posts like "Atheism is for slaves", Atheism is Reddit" or something similar to that effect, you know that it is him. He might try and change his posting styles and ways of baiting, but I doubt it.https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/283289157/#283357425_100https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/283289157/#283357425_114https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/283289157/#283357425_48I would link to some of his political spergery in the OG hippo thread too, but that one got 14K+ replies so you can't even access those properly anymore.
Steins;Gate fags should really try obsessing over a better anime.
>>285716806Yeah I frequent the hippo too and I was in both threads that you mentioned. My only hang up is that he hasn't been linked to anything entirely offsite yet besides the Hippo which doesn't really count. I do think it's only a matter of time until his reddit or xitter or whatever is found and posted here, just like how it happened with TB
By this point it's almost inevitable
>>285716744Don't worry i'm ftp, i dont pay nothing.Gambling losing money is bad.
>>285675664Kyoko, you have to be a special kind of best girl if, despite having been able to see countless versions of you, you are the only one to have Homura's respect while she considers the others to be various degrees of pic related.
>>285715840
It can't be helped
I think most interesting new stories are the Sayaka story where she say is okay with Hitomi and Kyousuke and she accepted that.And the one of Kyouko where she talks about how she feel about staying in the same House with Sayaka.I wonder if those were inspired by Exedra's script. if is then KyouSaya and KyoSaya are both dead.
>>285720467>Exedra's script.*Kaiten's script
Anons will look at Homucifer’s attack animations in Exedra and still deny that she’s a top
>>285720626Homu is made to be dominated
>>285720626>>285720954She's an unruly buck, not a true top.Homura is built for breaking.
>He don't want to dominate evil women or girls pretending to be evilVery hot turning "bad" girls to good and tamed with good dicking. But i guess that genre dont exist.
>>285715092thats exactly what kyoukonigger does yes.>>285716806im not that nigger but that sounds like another madoka schizo i know of whos obsessed with nietzschean philosophy and who thinks homura is the main character. anyway kyoukojogger has been dogging these threads for way longer than a half a year retard. the post of him admitting to doing keyboard warrior shit over yuri is so old i cant even find it in my lego bin of old memes.
>>285715334>Yeah it just doesn't feel organic. Other threads don't have this problem nearly as bad with so few active posters.one of the reasons i started to suspect llms are being used to mimick constant shitposters like kyoukojogger is his modus operandi (kill yuri by shitposting constantly) is the MO of a ton of other /vg/ schizos and its starting to seem like a script followed by AI spamming with passes. its thought that barneyfag also is just an AI doing its bullshit on loop.
>>285715840madoka liking food and homura not liking food is such a kino unexplored small conflict for them.
>>285715212>Does it though? It seems too have this thread but if someone wanted to derail the thread, it's an obvious choice to pretend to be this SGfag.because kyoukojoggers whole goal is to constantly derail yuri discussion in any thread on /a/ I have always thought stiensgate fag is him false flagging in a way, but it also seemed like a ploy to accuse another person than himself for causing problems and shift blame onto others, if its not him then someone else as speculated I still think you are correct to assume that theres no reason to think anyone feeding the troll is accomplishing anything at all. if anything constantly reporting all of the spam and occasionally eating a ban to get it removed has made the most difference in thread quality even if the nu captcha is really annoying. kyoukojogger has also been successful at getting mods to nuke any discussion of his shitting up the thread while leaving up his shitposts because others wont report his b8ing, but what can you do, nobody here is my personal arming if they are fine wallowing in his obvious ratshit. I'm feeling pretty full and content after the other days discussion of fanfics even if he eventually tried to interrupt it with his seething. such a rare conversation has been known to get nuked by mods in the past.
>>285722251>anyway kyoukojogger has been dogging these threads for way longer than a half a year retard. >the post of him admitting to doing keyboard warrior shit over yuriTrue, you can tell who are recent new posters based in how much they know thread lore.
>>285722581i ultimately know that nothing will be done about any of this. the latest epstien leaks should make it clear how black hearted the mods here are. they genuinely took away every resource we have to understand if we are being gayopped or not because they want to do gayops. they could even clone someones behavior and attempt to make posts on their behalf with llms while others are away. I should be crystal clear that when I say they follow kyoukojoggers mo i dont mean they are all against yuri. i mean that they are all against x by way of shitposting and making threads unusable. its the same tactics regardless of the subject. and it seems unreasonable that all of them would admit it. kyouko jogger did say as much but that was before i even coined the name after his propensity to avatarfag like you madokanon.in the time since a lot of schizos have made declarations against things like CCS (precure schizo), falcom, various JRPG threads. even gachafags complain about discord raids though i cant claim to feel bad for them enabling the destruction of my hobby from mtx.if kyoukonigger is genuine then at the very least his fbi agent was impressed enough to start copying his work.
>>285722547>>285722730Kyoukofag is one of SGfag's personas.
>>285722730I did something for me tho. If you have not noticed, he dont reply to my posts with madoka images. Maybe anons tripfagging and let him know that you hate him would solve the issue but i know most of you hate avatarfagging/tripfagging more than Kyoukojogger.So is a problem for you, good luck.Im almost free of him, i guess he learned to not reply me after me insulting him so much, lol.
>>285703444>Sorry for misreading you.Nah, sometimes I tend to ramble on when trying to articulate a point and get lost in it. Speaking of which:I've been reading the thread as it's gone on, and have been thinking about Kyouko more as I see more and more people quote her as their favourite meguca. I'm surprised to see so many people specifically mentioning how CAPABLE she is, her strength, her abilities. I think I've been pretty harsh on Kyouko, since as a Sayakafag I've been coming at Kyouko's story from what I now think to be the wrong angle, I was too focused on how Sayaka was a subversion and I kept on trying to compare Kyouko to her, I guess since the show does a lot of that itself. I think I was onto something when I said Madoka and Kyouko are very similar, in that they're both more classic mahou shoujo archetypes, the main "heroine" and the "redeemable selfish girl" respectably. I contrast these two to Mami and Sayaka who are more like subversion's of their archetypes, being the "older classy veteran ojou sama" girl and "sporty justicefag". Homura of course being her own weird freakshow.
>>285723436Pt 2.I keep on imagining a theoretical situation where Kyouko was in a more generic show, and she'd be the girl that shows up around episode 15-20. You know, once the main cast of characters have all got their powers and gotten used to the basic monster of the week formula. She'd be the one to show up and be an evil little stinker that'd tell the main girls that "justice is stupid" and that they should use their magical girl powers for themselves, just like in MadoMagi. Where I think things would differ is when the justicefag Sayaka character steps in. Sure, in this hypothetical show, blue hair sporty girl would get her ass kicked, despite her fighting for justice, and then the next episode would have her mulling over what "justice" means or whatever, you know the drill, they fight again, Kyouko threatens one of blue girls friends, blue girl realizes that "justice" is defending those she loves, beats Kyouko, and then shows her mercy, which pisses her off but sets up her redemption 7-8 episodes later where her sad backstory is revealed and she gets stabbed in the back by the main villain team only to get saved by justicefag bluegirl again. The story writes itself and shows up in a lot of anime, and in this scenario Kyouko would likely be the most popular girl in the main team by far.
>>285723459This also isn't what happens obviously to the actual Kyouko and Sayaka. Instead, it's Sayaka who's ideology is immediately shattered, and when Sayaka is thrust into a life destroying situation (getting separated from her soul gem and learning some of the truth about being a meguca) instead of continuing to be an asshole, Kyouko feels empathy for Sayaka's situation, also being shaken by the revelation herself. She tries to reach out to Sayaka, meet her in the middle, put her on a path that won't lead to self destruction. How this contrasts with generic show Kyouko is what's making me start to get it, generic Kyouko needs to LOSE in order to be brought to the side of good. TRUE Kyouko never really loses, she looks at the terrible situation around her, and allows herself to feel the empathy needed to go on the path of redemption. True Kyouko has agency in every step of her journey, she isn't influenced by her own failure but the failure of others. Yes Kyouko is an archetype played straight, but it's the context she's in and how's she's written that makes her a step above what she would be in a more typical story. I do still think that her backstory is a bit out of place with how absurd the circumstances were for a story that's mostly grounded, but I feel that a large part of that may be due to the time constraints of the 12 episodes. Mami had the time she needed and is better on rewatch, but I feel Kyouko could have used a 13th episode before Sayaka witches out to give her a little time for herself.
>>285723488In the end, I think Homura said it best, "Kyouko is the one most suited to being a magical girl". I dismissed this at first do to it being something said from a place of callousness, but I think it's probably the most important thing said about Kyouko's character in the show. Kyouko IS a magical girl character, straight up. And unlike Madoka, she doesn't have anyone doing everything they can to stop her from being who she is.
>>285723551Mucho texto.>Kyouko IS a magical girl character, straight up.But is not this clear when Kyouko was seen like the evil girl, taking efficient paths and not being hypocrite.Imagine if Holy quintet lived in a city where there was not enough grief seed for all.In that situation i can understand why all idealistic girls are actually naive and Kyouko's ways of only doing things only for herself is the correct way of being a magical girl.
>>285723841I think "Kyouko is the one most suited to being a magical girl" is a statement with two meanings. Yes, the pragmatism that she exhibits is part of the reason why she survives so long, and is why she's the only girl Homura actually seems to respect. But I also think the statement is a bit of a meta one, if you'll forgive me for bringing things there. MadoMagi was a show made in the early 2010s where that sort of thing was still fresh after all, and Kyouko in the meta sense is the most LIKE an actual character from the shows MadoMagi was pretending to be. If that makes sense.
>>285713017And that's exactly why demons seethe so hard at meguca in particularDemonic influence into systems and malleable people to seek out and shit on anything that points to hope and love, which Madoka is full of. They won't always know they are being used.No other anime gets the same kind of directed demoralizing attention. But if you ever think it is wrong to hope, Madoka will come and call you a gay nigger for doubting her.
>>285710109Cute cheese baka
Canon ships confirmed
>>285725532the VN is goodthe anime is trash for secondaries (leddit)
Did we forget Penguindrum?
>>285724367I hope Kaiten do something good and interesting with Kyouko (outside of flashy cool scenes or being Sayaka's keychain).
>Amidst the endless tapestry of time and space, this place was but one of a myriad of possibilities that may have existed.Myriads, endless.. And i just want one, only one where Thicc Mami exists, like those fanarts. Only one, it should not be hard. Make it real Exedra.
Make her canon.
>>285725532Why do only stupid people like Steins;Gate?
Didn't like witch of subsumption much.I'm ~60 chapters into n approaches infinity and while I like it for the most part and it's actually a surprisingly compatible crossover, it's leaning way too hard into fixfic territory and getting kinda repetitive.I'd say the characters talk about their emotions a little too much not to feel forced, their voices are too similar in many scenes and the atmosphere is in general lacking, especially for a combination of series which both relied on it so much. The descriptions are just bad, wooden and overcomplicated, there's plenty of detail but it's all dumped at once in a pile so I can never really "see" what's happening. And the fight scenes are mid. I'd put it at a 6-7/10, but it's really more like an 8 mixed with a five, I really like some parts, and then there's lots of meh inbetween them. If I were to write somethign like this myself, I'd focus on giving Homura more agency, making the Bleach characters more proactive, and making characters more of a ray area instead of 100% allies or 100% enemies. As a bonus it would be nice to fuse the power systems a little more and have more hollows so it's not just everyone constantly fighting witches. Postwar is also a little boring, I understand that it's helpful if you want to focus on Homura's story, but you lose out on so many cool characters and events. Mixing Aizen into a timeloop would be nuts for instance.
>>285727234
My wife
>>285726524already canon
>>285727873Poor Mami
>>285727060Not sure what you didn't like about witch of subsumption since you didn't elaborate. If you're 80% through as n approaches infinity and don't like most of it I'm not sure why you continued to read it. Personally the part I mentioned about madoka comes near the end but I don't know if you've passed it or not since it's around where you stopped. But I did mention ahead of time that it only really tantalized me with the promise of that more than anything. Personally I do think a lot of the dialogue could be improved but I don't think the characters sound wooden. They definitely talk too much but I am a sucker for that kind of thing. It's part of the purpose of reading a fanfic for things which are not long to be made more drawn out. That said there's an entirely different fic that takes place at the beginning of bleach. However like you mentioned, that would constantly drag the story towards the bleach side and I don't think I would like it that much and for that reason found dancing through frozen threads difficult to get through. The core of each characters arc is something I thought n approaches did pretty well even if the dialogue isn't always graceful. There's a reason I mentioned spending time imagining my own take on it. It never feels too cheap. At least for me. Characters are not able to easily get their arc over and done with in a half hour which is what I think of most when I think of fix fics. It's true I think that the fanfic is trying to aim for some kind of better outcome, but personally I don't think that motivation is wrong. Most of us are also hoping for that. I'm curious if you had a particular problem with witch of subsumption. I wouldnt say that ones perfect either but you didn't give a reason. All things considered though one thing that I can say is that both of these fics really have the characters own voice. Maybe it's my imagination filling in the blanks but I was able to make that connection.
>>285728418For WoS, I just didn't like the format of the story, not into the fake quest game thing. Felt too artificial. I stopped after only a few chapters. As for NaI, I did like it generally, it just felt stretched out or slowed down, or something. The pacing is off, maybe it's the descriptions, maybe it's the dialogue, maybe it's just the plot itself, but it keeps seemingly trying to push on the gas and get the story going and yet here I am 60 chapters in and barely anything has actually happened. I think the main thing that bothers me is that the characters are decent I think , the writing of the emotions and interaction is good, but the atmosphere is severaly lacking, there's little to no direction or feeling tot he mechanical motions of the scene. Blocking, angles, backdrop, lighting, all basically not there most of the time. It's kinda like everyone is just talking in a blank void, and as hilariously appropriate that is for a bleach crossover, it's really at odds with Madoka which is extremely visually oriented, highly symbolic, and very moody.Needs more explicit scene boundaries too, lots of chapters seem like a neverending continuous shot where we just follow characters around doing things and nothing ever really gets described or changed so it all feels like nothing has happened. As for the fixfic thing, I just don't see much conflict coming from the bleach side. All the enemies are witches or kyubey, and at most the shinigami are potentially dangerous if they felt like doing something bad, but are going out of their way to not. So it feels like everything was added just to fix the situation, which kinda defeats the purpose of the entire story/setting imo. Like I get it you don't have to make everythign a tragedy and the whole point of fanfic is to do something different, but you've got to lean into it a little more. I think I liked the start much more, everything after the first loop seems pretty shallow by comparison.
>>285728651I think, even with all the weaknesses in the writing, I would be a lot more positive if more things went wrong. Like you can't have a groundhog day where everything goes perfectly until the end, it should be a steadily sinking ship where you keep holding on because it seems like you might just be able to make it, until finally the last straw breaks the camel's back and it all collapses. Then next time you have lots and lots of things to try to fix, in the process messing up other things that went right he first time, etc...Basically you've got Homura, you've got a timeloop, not using it to it's full potential is wasting the opportunity for massive amounts of drama that's normally impossible in a story.
>>285728711Or maybe alternatively you could have everything go right up until the end the first time by sheer good luck and natural reactions, and then going back to try to fix things it all falls apart since it's impossible to recreate a series of accidents and blind reactions. Also also, as far as I can tell there's nothing happening in the background on the enemy side, which there should be. Kyubey seems to just be sitting around waiting doing nothing right up until the last second. If he was more blatantly setting up irons in the fire it'd be more interesting. When he does act it's way too direct and unsubtle, he's not that kind of guy. He's one of the better written characters and is really creepy every time he shows up, but he should be a lot more ominous and threatening.
I want to get them both pregnant
Okay but what if you WERE teh meguca?
>>285729597Why would I want to be a girl?The point of magical girls is that you should want to fuck them not be them
>>285729597I'd fuck Rika
>>285728711Admittedly a vision of a finale where madoka gets dark nutted is part of what drives the imaginary alternative I have in mind. A premonition worthy event that she predicts on top of her seeming canon role of being the one to figure out how to recover lost memories. I do think as far as mood goes the 1st one is better. I think an entire district getting nuked and madoka turning into an enemy at the last moment and forcing homura to fight her and her witch abilities for the first time is enough of a shit goes wrong for the 2nd loop. But honestly I don't get the impression the person writing it would go that far. It seems to me like they will do something very harsh at that point to force a confrontation but I don't know what. But everyone needs to survive that loop because madoka will be making memory storage devices for everyone in all likelihood. In my conception for that plot point it would be much more drawn out and tenuous as the 3rd loop reveals she's unable to come up with a way to give the memories back to magical girls since their soul is so condensed. Imaginings aside I guess I like the on point characters and have the creativity to see how this 2nd timeline can indeed go to hell fast. That's part of why I liked exploring it with a savy madoka as she unconsciously feels the event horizon of the gordian knot her fate is tied into approaching. >>285728776Kyuubei is kind of a difficult adversely for me to write. Personally I also think that between him and madoka and homura the latter two are better foils for one another even if kyuubei was explicitly created to be madokas. You do see him set up irons in 2nd loop but many of them that aren't soju come for not. Kidnapping madoka at the end with her going willingly was a final iron I came up with for him but I can't gaurentee the author won't just use the same trick in the first loop. To be fair to the anime canon kyuubei always uses walpurgisnacht if he had any agency.
>>285730267I think Kyubey is underrated by most people. No one ever gets his ambiguous nature. he's really not evil or malicious, but at the same time he's really not good or nice either. He truly does want to help, and thinks he's helping, but has utterly no understanding of how humans think and is completely incapable of caring.He knows for a fact that human emotions create magical power, and the end result he's figured out after thousands of years is to torture children into insanity because it creates the most energy. And no only does he see no issue with this, he doesn't understand why anyone else would disagree with him and thinks they're the ones who are ignorant and callous when they get mad at his explanations.Essentially from his point of view we're the scary aliens who don't understand logic and can't be reasoned with. I think he'll be really fleshed out by the next/final movie. We had a Madoka centric anime, a Homura centric movie, and there's really only one main character left who hasn't remade the universe in their image.It's kinda funny but I think I can even see a completely in character end result of the setting that would actually neatly wrap everything up. Kyubey will gain absolute power over reality, and erase magic from existence entirely, along with himself, being thorough unlike Madoka and Homura, leaving absolutely no trace behind so it's completely impossible to reverse. Creating our universe.
Part of me hopes Kaitens ending is as ambiguous as possible. I only want this if Homura and Madoka are happy regardless of what happens after the ending.
Have an epic meme
>>285730506>he's really not evilHe is a flat out liar.>but has utterly no understanding of how humans thinkhe understands enough to both be a manipulative little shit and avoid topics he knws will upset his marks.To this day it still amazes me that people still get taken in by the little con artists act.
>>285722730Destruction? No. Improvement.
>>285730506That would be an abhorant end to the franchise and against everything madoka stands for. I also think your view of kyuubei is utterly misguided in the narrative of the episodic anime. Kyuubei represents utilitarianism but ultimately what that means in a Buddhist cosmology is what's important. Madoka, who many regard as a bodhisattva, is known for her many feelings and regards which are unlike anything you can associate with an enlightened Buddhist figure. She is completely antithetical to this view point, however kyuubei is the natural result. One with everything and seeing himself as part of said universe and lacking any meaningful human attachments the incubator is supposed to be everything good and righteous in Buddhism as well as the usual good and righteous animal mascot for magical girls. He isn't someone just someone who doesn't care about people but isn't really "evil". He's specifically supposed to embody a supposedly good ideal and through his action we the audiance are asked if this is really the philosophy we want to adopt. This aligns with the themes and struggles madoka goes through in her painful connections to her friends and family, and how through the entire thing, she was often told to do nothing. This is where kyuubei really comes into his own in the narrative because from his attempts to get madoka to contract we constantly see that his assessments are correct. As in he is not just a representative of some philosophical religious ideal. But also a more mundane reality. This world doesn't care about you. There's nothing we know of in our every day life that will make a woman have the kind of agency and power in these stories. And so as they grapple with the power they thought they wanted, kyuubei is always there with the consiquences. Always there to not just exploit but show the way in which the characters have failed. And lastly
>>285730506Kyuubei really does have a very good understanding of humanity. The issue is that he has no connection with humanity. There's no difference to him between 100 million lives or 100 million grains of sand. He despite saying he wishes to save the universe has totally left everything we value about it in the dust. I don't really see how he can be a well intentioned from a completely perfected utilitarian perspective in bleaches confrontations. He is portrayed that way to some extent in dancing through frozen threads, but he's also not much of a character with agency in that one, or rather he uses his agency to leave that universe. In as n approaches infinity it seems logical enough to me that it would be spun towards some kind of hell arc. I don't particularly know enough about bleach to know if this is attrocious from a bleach point of view but from my point of view it seems to line up with madokas christian side of its religious themes what with the Faust references and deals with the devil. This is why I said I find him hard to write or plan for. You can either take his goals at face value or you don't. As n approaches infinity constantly hints and foreshadows that it doesn't. And coming up with an end game for kyuubei's goals is where I find him difficult, not in dreaming up conflicts or witty things for him to say. Hes a character that seems to highly favor the status quo.
>>285730590Homura is going to die of her heart condition in a world without magic. People who want that ending blow my mind.
>>285731448Yes he's manipulative, but that still doesn't make him evil or malicious. He's much more interesting than that, he actually withholds information because he's trying to prevent misunderstandings, which is what he thinks is happening when people freak out at him. Remember he thinks emotions are some sort of alien magic that makes people go insane, so he carefully acts in ways to get people to agree with what he wants while avoiding irrational emotional responses. He thinks this is helpful because they'd definitely agree with him if you really understood what he was saying and weren't so irrational for no reason.He can't understand the concept that someone could disagree with him, it must simply be a mistake on their part. He's logically proven himself to be correct and logically proven his current actions are the best possible method. Therefore any disagreement is simply because of unpredictable irrational magic impeding proper thought. If you'd just calm down and think clearly he's obviously right and you should do what he says. And it's not just emotions he doesn't understand. He doesn't understand individuality, death, or pain either. He barely cares when Homura kills him or tortures him, and that's exactly the same as how he thinks of humans. He's extremely calculating and cunning, but at the same time hopelessly out of touch, confused, and blind to what's happening infront of him. This results in all sorts of interesting little quirks, like him not understanding there are different types of emotion and getting them mixed up constantly, him not directly telling lies because he actually doesn't understand the concept of imagination and thus can't think of anything to say but the truth, or how he actually does have tiny vestigial emotions but is so ignorant of them he can't even tell they exist and occasionally cause him to make extremely stupid decisions when he gets too full of himself or excited.
To the seething Madokatroon janny, I won't stop posting about the superiority of Steins;Gate no matter how many of my posts get deleted. Fuck your tranime
>>285732139I honestly feel you are giving him stupid levels of benefit of the doubt for no reason, but in leue of explaining in great detail why you are wrong I have to ask why you complained about him not doing more in as n approaches infinity. He does a fair bit but as you said he misunderstands the situation and often makes the wrong call. Or he was outwitted by another characters careful plan (usually yoruichi or madoka.)
>>285732092Yeah, an ending without magic would probably be pretty shit and would feel cheap
>>285732048>favors the status quoThat's an illusion, the entire status quo is deliberately constructed and controlled by him. It simply seems to be normal because he's been doing it so long and is so good at it. Actual reality is obviously very different from the imposed order he puts everything into and without his constant efforts things would drastically change very quickly.For instance Walpurgisnacht exists entirely because he allows it to, between the lines implying that it's not nearly the first or only of it's kind and that similar scale events are constantly happening, either being ignored, managed, or even created by him as it suits him.Literally the entire surface of the earth is a carefully controlled lab experiment covered in sensors and cameras and he controls or invented almost all culture, technology, and religion. He claims to have effectively created humans in their entirety, and to a large extent he's not wrong.He's not just an evil mascot character, he's some sort of lovecraftian creator deity, and he's as alien, indifferent, and cruel as he is obsessed and constantly involved, the worst possible combination of traits. He's core to the cosmic horror of the entire setting, and literally everything that happens is directly or indirectly his fault, so it's extremely important to portray him correctly. For instance taking all that stuff I said about him in this post and the previous ones, and then notice how Homucifer used her powers to force all despair in the universe into him until he ACTUALLY FELT FEAR and realize how insane that was and how much of a horrible, horrible idea it was to do that and how it's definitely going to have very very bad consequences if/when she gets distracted by something and he gets a chance to escape.
>>285732139I reject your entire defence of him.As I stated, to this day it still amazes me that people still get taken in by the little con artists act.
>>285732355The status quo resembles our reality way too much to be artificial in a way that the average person would consider relevant or true. It's basically a world indistinguishable from our own and the kyuubei creating it doesn't send a message about what is artificial or not but what this character who represents what makes our world the way it is is like.
>>285732207He's not threatening enough. He comes across as too desperate and incompetent, and he's a little too catty. Reading further to chapter 71 he's got a few more things going on in the background and some of his invisible pressure arranging events around other magical girls is shown, but it's both not enough and also not inhuman enough.He shouldn't be threatening people or directly trying to get rid of them at the first sign of trouble, he should be acting like he's totally in control and it doesn't both him at all while using all his abilities to poke and prod and pick apart things and people to try to understand how they work and how to manipulate it in the future. Basically he cares too much, which humanizes him, and actually makes him less scary. His best scenes by far was when he was stalking Yuruichi and testing her, and his best line was when he casually suggested killing her because she was making noise and distracting people while he was talking.Actively trying to be threatening isn't as scary as actively trying to be friendly and helpful and yet coming across as threatening anyway.
>>285732389I'm really not defending him at all, if anything I'm doing the opposite. By reducing him to being evil or malicious you make him seem incompetent. If he was actually evil then his general inaction and lack of response to being interfered with would make him cowardly and weak. But in the case where he's simply indifferent and obtuse it can be understood that he's incredibly powerful and dangerous, and has simply decided not to act because of a series of unknown, possibly unknowable reasons. At any moment he could decide to do something horrible, and you probably couldn't stop him, but you don't know when or if that will happen.When he gives you advice or a warning, maybe he's trying to get you killed, or maybe he's actually trying to help you, or maybe he's just trying to test your responses, or all of the above. When you try as hard as you can to fight back against him, to argue with him, to mess with his plans, and his response isn't to fight back or get angry, but to calmly observe you and ask you questions as he easily undoes all your progress, it's much more terrifying. It's not a matter of being caught, he's already got you, and you can't escape.
>>285732685None of that absolves him of being an evil shit.You can have a goal, your actions can be perfectly logical in your efforts to achieve that goal and you can still be an evil, lying, manipulative little shit.
>>285733278"evil" is too petty and humanizing.
>>285733345Could you tell me what other term you would use for a being that is deceptive, manipulative, dishonest and murderous?Because I think by most standards that would be "evil".
>>285733428That's all just projection from the human point of view. He's not any of those things.Even calling him cold or indifferent misses the mark.The closest human descriptor that fits him is "curious" or perhaps "obsessive".Really it's bad enough that he's incredibly more powerful than us, and also very curious about how we work.To him he's a scientists and we're rats in a lab. He experiments on us with zero empathy, if he feels anything it's simply about his own success or failure, no consideration is ever made for what happens to us, and when he's satisfied or the experiment is over he'll dispose of us and get a new batch of test subjects.
>>285731125Steins;Gate losers btfo
>>285733620>He's not any of those things.>deceptiveHe deliberately avoids topics that will upset his marks.>manipulativeHe deliberately misleads Kyouko when she askes if there is a way to save Sayaka.>dishonestHe tells Madoka and Sayaka that he is not allowed to pressure girls into becoming magical girls, he then spends the entire series do exactly that to Madoka.>murderousHe deliberately sends Kyouko to her death to get her out of the way.
>>285732554>Basically he cares too much, which humanizes him, and actually makes him less scary. His best scenes by far was when he was stalking Yuruichi and testing her, and his best line was when he casually suggested killing her because she was making noise and distracting people while he was talking.Actively trying to be threatening isn't as scary as actively trying to be friendly and helpful and yet coming across as threatening anyway.see thats the kind of slip up that I dont agree with you on and actually makes me feel he is too desperate and incompetent yet you are glazing it. It also humanizes him in that same dehumanizing way by making him seem like a simpleton that cant understand why that would not go over well. you are correct that hes at his best when hes in control though. witch of subsumption definitely does that much better, though he only has a brief appearance. >>285733428what hes autistically seething about is that it makes it sound like he is doing it for the evuls. alignment is descriptive however, not perscriptive, so its a completely fitting description. Though I still prefer Madoka's response, whos false desire is to be increadibly accepting, labels him "our enemy"
>>285735344also as n approaches finity this becomes canon,
WHERE is the movie?
>>285737140Madoka threw it off a bridge, and Homura hasn’t gotten it back yet.
Can everything be ok homu
hebe sex hebe sex hebe sex hebe sex hebe sex hebe sex hebe sex hebe sex hebe sex hebe sex
>>285738105Kyouko definitely has the tightest pussy.
>>285738105is this edited or is he legitimately just hot dogging her jeansed butt while kyouko pretends to be having a good time?
meh
>>285727487Needs more thiccness, and not only in the boobs.
Release date when
Love meguca. Protect meguca.
I wonder when we will get news again
>>285746557Cute outfit Kyouko!
>>285673500Who knows.
I like the fact that the Rebellion part of the main story in the gacha has Namae and A-Q discuss Homura’s love. They refer to it as "deep affection" (at least that’s how it’s translated).Oddly enough A-Q says it must be the first time Namae felt love, despite her describing it back during the Sayaka arc. Maybe since it’s a different form of love he didn’t count that, but since he used the general word for love (ai, which also applies to romantic love) it’s odd he would say that. Perhaps he forgor.
>>285748500Glasses can be cute.
>>285748700Afaik Namae feel emotions when she collects Memsparks but AQ said they collection from feeling of magical girls, those feelings don't belong to Namae.But the emotion this time Namae felt was the most dangerous of all because she lost a bit her mind and close to do something that could destroy the world they live.So it confirms Homura's "deep affection" is very dangerous and not always a good thing like A Q said.
Homura did everything wrong.
The thread will go down but I will say I love you all and I pray for you in church
BHDM
>>285750204Thank you anon. Thanks for the nice Meguca thread everyone.
Bye bye!!!
After the last news, i can't see any /u/fag in good way.It was worst that i thought and not just a simple "different taste"...
>>285750546I bet his favorite meguca is Sayaka.
>>285750649I doubt Sayakafags or Mamifags having those tastes, from what i seen they are not like that.
>>285750925Did you forget who Urobucher's favorite meguca is?
>>285751789But urobuchi watches or enjoys /u/ content?
>>285751942Very
>>285702926>>285715334>>285715020>>285715526>>285717349Holy shit, you are fucking mentally ill, !-Akemi.You literally are constantly talking to yourself about "ack" and screaming about your boogieman 100% unprovoked.You genuinely think the way you act is normal.
>>285695541>>285695551>>285695596>>285695980>>285696287Seek help, !-Akemi. You are so fucking deranged it's unreal.You literally have "ack" living rent free in your head every single second of your life.All because you are told to stop shitposting.
>>285695463>>285709184>>285714619No one will ever agree with you, !-Akemi.
>>285752668>>285752680>>285752699Silly man:^)
>>285716806You're so pathetically desperate to pretend your "hippo thread" is a thing. You want so badly to pretend that 4chan is your personal army.
Last for release the meguca files!
Steins;Garbage
ACK is a mentally ill nigger
>>285753569You are the only person who thinks "ack" is real.Seek help.
>>285753569Nobody cares about Steins;Gate trash, go back to your thread.
