>subs translate manga as "comic"it's so fucking tiresome
You are correct to feel that way, but its so over that it doesn't matter any more. Colonizers won. True otaku are a small minority that are even chased out of their own niches sites now.
>>285678658But that's the correct translation for manga?
>>285678658>anime is translated as animationnooo....
>>285679320Objectively false, a manga and a comic isn't the same thing, just like an anime and an animation isn't the same thing. You're either braindead or a tourist, but either way you need to go back.
Yeah, they're obviously Graphic Novels.
>>285679488Okay then, what's the correct translation for manga? What's the Japanese word for a comic book?
>>285678658And somehow LN is just called that instead of a japanese word.
>>285678658The really funny part is that the japs pretty often call manga "comics", but almost nobody in the west does.>>285679346Nope, anime means cartoon. They even call western cartoons anime.
The joke being that manga is often referred to as コミックス in Japanese. Except the trannylator and his MTL didn't know that.
>>285680066If the character is reading Superman, it's comic, if it's One Piece, is manga.
>>285680322How about My Hero Academia? It's based on western superheroes.
>>285680066What's the overwhelmingly accepted English term for a Japanese "comic book"?
>>285680322that's retarded
>>285678658>subs are supposed to translate japanese to english>"manga" is not an english word>"manga" is just the japanese characters translated into english characters>western countries don't have manga>western countries have comics>manga are serialized stories with pictures and dialogue in the east>comics are serialized stories with pictures and dialogue in the west>manga is the japanese equivalent of comics>comics is therefore the correct translation for mangaon that matter, anime is just japanese cartoons
>>285680440Technicalities don't matter because that's not how languages work. Everyone has accepted that Japanese "comics" are clearly distinct enough from Western comics that taking a loanword from Japanese and calling them manga is the correct approach. Now manga has become an English word used to specifically describe Japanese ""comics"".Therefore, the correct translation for a Japanese manga is manga.
>>285679488The Japanese themselves have used the actual word "comic" to refer to manga many times, you dumb projecting newfag.
OP is gonna have a heart attack when he sees "コミカライズ決定" or "コミックス第○巻発売中" (or maybe not, since these types of people usually never bother to learn jap to begin with)
>>285680570>Everyone has accepted that Japanese "comics" are clearly distinct enough from Western comicsif by "Everyone" you mean "casuals who barely read anything" then sure, I guessIs Monkey Punch not manga?Is Takao Saitou not manga?Is Goseki Kojima not manga?Is Jiro Taniguchi not manga?Is Garo not manga?Is Taku Tsumugi not manga?Is Akimi Yoshida not manga?Are Ozamu Tezuka's early manga not manga because they look like Disney?you can't even use "B&W vs color" as an argument because color manga have always existedI bet you're a dumb amerimutt who thinks "The West" is only the US
>>285678658>>285679488>>285680636>OP right nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF46Cel3EUo
>>285680570If you're going to use "Everyone who speaks English" as justification for this then surely you must know Chinese comics, Korean comics and Taiwanese comics are also called manga by them, it's not just Japanese.
>>285678658>dekinai lecturing about translationKill yourself.
>>285680673You mean manhua and manhwa
>nu-mangafag pretends not to be a comic book fag using comic book fag logicAutistically bargain all you want but there's no fundamental differences between readers of One Piece and Aquaman
>>285680377When you are speaking in English, manga is a term for a subsection of comic books made in Japan. When you are speaking Japanese, manga is a term for all comic books and thus should be translated to 'comic book'. Not that hard to understand. You wouldn't translate 'manshon' as a mansion because that's not what the word means in Japanese even though it is the same word. You translate the meaning of the word. This should be obvious to everyone.
>>285680440>"manga" is not an english wordThen why does it say "& Manga" at the top of this English-speaking webpage? Should it say "& Comics"? Mmm.
>>285680831because it's a weeb board and the japa make fun of us constantly for it
>>285678658The whole concept of wasei eigo proves that OP is a retarded faggot.
>>285680196>>285680225コミックス means "collected edition of manga", it's what westfags usually call "tanks" even if the format isn't actually a tankobon.
>>285680974lmao I've literally never heard a manga volume called a tankwhere do you weirdos come from
>>285680792Nips call American comics "amekomi".
>>285680792When the character says manga and specifically refers to an obviously Japanese comic then you should translate it as manga, because that's what it is most commonly referred to in English nowadays. When it's Western you translate it as comic. It's that simple.
>>285681015>where do you weirdos come from/a/
>>285681066and by that I mean hispachan /a/
>>285681018Yes, and? In their language, that's just a subsection of manga, just like in English the word 'manga' is a subsection of comic books. >>285681032That's an inaccurate translation though, because when a Japanese character says 'manga' he isn't using a term that only includes Japanese comics, he is using a term that includes all comics, whether they be Japanese or foreign, even if the context makes it clear he is referring to Japanese comics. Just like you translate 'inu' as 'dog' and not as a Basset Hound even if the context makes it clear the character is referring to a Basset Hound. You don't go adding more meaning into what is being said, that's how you get American trannylators writing up their own fanfiction and passing it off as a translation.
>>285681113No, retard.Where the fuck do you come from? I bet you're a crossboarder.
>>285681032If the character is Japanese they're not going to think of the comic they're reading as specifically a Japanese comic because they're already Japanese and not a figment of your autistic imagination
>>285680792>When you are speaking in English, manga is a term for a subsection of comic books made in Japan.and ipso facto this is why the term "native isekai" is legit
>newfags, redditards and tourists discussing on "/a/ - Anime & Manga" about why we should start calling manga comics instead/a/ is dead.
>>285681149Why is it that beananons faithfully replicated the behavior of posturing about being an oldfag and deflecting against any accusations of newfaggedness, but none of the taste and cultural knowledge that made /a/ the better place to discuss anime in spite of that?
>>285681135>'manga' is a subsection of comic books.so manga are comics?
>>285678658>what does katana mean?
>>285681374It just means sword. It's westerners that gave it a special meaning.
>>285680570>Everyone has accepted that Japanese "comics" are clearly distinct enough from Western comicsEveryone except the Japanese.
>>285678658I blame commie
>>285681340Yes, in English language manga are a subtype or comic book. Not all comic books are manga, but all manga are comic books.
>>285681413*missed the movie quote
>>285681340venn diagrams and such
>>285681333You sound schizo.
>japs only got comics from america after ww2>act like they invented it lol
>>285679488I agree that the word manga should just be left as is, but that doesn't change the fact that it's also literally the Japanese word for comic. There are several serialized manga magazines that even have the word comic on the name, such as Gangan Comics, Comic Yuri Hime, and of course degen shit like Comic Lo. Unless you want to tell these actual Japanese manga publishers that they're wrong for calling their shit comics, you should probably stop being such a pompous retard.
>>285678658>COMIC market
Manga is a term used by English speakers (specifically in this case talking about Americans since this is an American board) to refer to Japanese comics for the purposes of separating them from western comics. If Europeaon comics were as prevalent there'd probably be a different word for those too. Maybe there is an I'm just not aware of it. People who shill for (and work on) American comics want to remove as many of these language separations as possible so they can ride off of manga's success in the west. Same for westerners calling their cartoons "anime". >>285685246There were Japanese comics prior to WWII. Pic related is from 1902. What we consider manga currently though is something that began after WWII with influence from western comics.
