Episode tomorrow
>>285682013Ok, see you tomorrow then.
>>285682013>Episode tomorrow>thread todaybrown behavior
When do we get to see Zealot bullied into wearing casual clothes
OTP
>>285682150Two Weeks.
kawaii
This shit might’ve been ok if the English wanker and the Japanese schoolgirl weren’t in it
Gil humiliation soon...
>>285682139Was the Hipo getting lost thing ever in the novel or just thought up by anime staff?
>>285682419>some fake girl that isn't Ayaka pretending to me ayaka; a master who does not want to play BG>some english king that didn't event speak englishAbsolutely MADE for each other.
Random thought, but why is Caster Medea an elf?
I haven’t been in these threads much this week, have they been any better than the last few weeks?
>>285683021Not speaking English is probably a positive for King Arthur. But Richard genuinely disliked the entire kingdom of Britannia and preferred his mainland holdings.
>>285683069Every thread other than satuday's is just assholes fellating each other over FGO power levels.
Any good servant gore from FSF?
The STRONGEST
>>285683812
>>285682013mindcucked by online casinos
>>285683827>>285683812THE STRONGEST.
The King... is too perfect
>>285683855The strongest couple...
Our king
>>285683920
>>285683920>the resident saberfag is just a gil shipperexplain a lot
>>285683965Dabbed on that hoe
>we want the yume audience
>>285682994Anime thing
>>285683972Saberfags ship her with Shirou.
>>285684004Of course. She's the only choice for Shirou that makes sense.
>>285684004I know. Just that the fag that spam Saber pic is actually a Gil fag.
Fuck Rin
>>285684021He's a very very special japanese teenager and that's why king Arthur falls in love with him.
>>285684042and fuck Rinfags
>>285684042>>285684068If you insist...
>>285683068I think its because she is Helios granddaughter, a demigod, thus non-human
He's the final boss of the series.
>>285683812>has never won
>>285684176Gilbros....
>>285684160After 9 volumes he's still way below Gil, Enkidu, Alcides and Hyppo.
>>285684302>Hyppoholy sneak
>>285684279He won my heart
Who is the strongest Girl in Fake?
>>285684302Power doesn't mean everything even Astolfo won a HGW.
STRONGEST
Fuck artoria fags godamit
>>285684495Herk POV
>>285684450At least post the Artoria that matters.
>saberface shows up>altriafags enter the thread>thread goes to shit
>>285684366No one said that Astolfo was the final boss.
>>285684313She was buffed several times and get stronger to defeat Alcides, but even in her default state she would stomp Richard.
>>285684686Is Sigmaballs Kerry's son then
>>285684698No. The woman is part of an experiment to make super babies or something.
>>285684695Buffed by what?
>>285684755Damn he still can't get laid
>>285684695Wihout Goddess of War Richard beats her with a tree stick
>>285684790That stick is excalibur have some respect.
>>285684812I love based retards.
>>285684776Anon?
>>285684642Gilfag*
>>285684698In the LN, Maiya told Iri that she was gangraped by soldiers and had a baby before meeting Kerry and the baby was taken from herThe baby was taken away from her, Narita then revealed that the soldier who fathered the baby had Magic Circuits and the baby was taken to be part of a group of Mage child soldiers
>>285684776Bro... what do you think FZ S2 ED1 is?
>>285684982GIWTWM
>>285682013Francesca my love
>>285684642You mean neroface
>>285685124quietSILENCE
>>285685095Sis...
>>285684642Hippo isn't even a Saberface she just has the hair.
>>285684495artist?
>>285685212She looks similar to Seibah in built too.
>>285684767By manatransfer 24/7 until her saintgraph leveled up.
>>285685752Well, there's a train.
>>285684812
>>285682013vagina dentata clasping on my magic staff and stones
>>285684313Not a sneak, Hippo's current stats are at the very leastSTR AEND AAGI A MAG A LCK DNP AThose are literally Heracles-tier stats given to someone who isn't a Berserker and fights with her wit in tact
>>285685877>D luck
>>285685877Stats have always been irrelevant
I am enjoying this even less than Apocrypha. So far SF is just following the "just make more fights lol" ufotable formula, but it doesn't even bother to introduce characters properly and make me care about them. The entirety of episode 4 was about Gil and 2 literally whos fighting, but why am I supposed to care about them and their fight? I liked FSN not because of fights but because most of the cast were actually interesting and charismatic characters. Now we're 4 episodes in (5 including the prologue) and I just can't find a reason to like any of them. And compared to Apocrypha, it added all this modern/America bullshit: surveilance cameras, guns, cops, glowies, Vegas. No mystery or atmosphere at all.
I remember in new Morii Shizuki's artbook there were pictures of different possible Ricrard's 3rd ascension art and he was dope, better than furry, in red armor and white hair instead of blond. But I can't find photos anywhere, anyone saved them?
>>285686053Your bait was enough for me to reply.
>>285683837Better design
>>285686241>turned into a mortal manlet with impotent ragesuch a downgrade
>>285684153Ah, makes sense then. Good design choice either way, the elf ears make her look cuter.
>>285683068What elf?
>>285686241I USED TO RULE THE WORLD
>>285686675>Mountain MenI just saw that in the title of some romance novels and got jumpscared. They're real things?
>>285685752So that's how Waver's class got so high up in the ranks...
>>285685877And those matter little. It's more about skills, NPs, and literal narrative importance.
>>285685877I'm not that far in the LN but I'm pretty sure there is some caveat to that. It's too convenient for a non-Berserker to have a bunch of physical As like that.Twice as much considering she isn't a madwoman like her sister to justify that.
>>285686053>The entirety of episode 4 was about Gil and 2 literally whos fighting, but why am I supposed to care about them and their fight?You see, stories aren't told with the expectation of you looking everything up on a wiki. The guy in the towel is supposed to be MYSTERIOUS. You are supposed to WONDER at who he is, how he can be so strong. And then you learn he's Heracles! Because Hippolyta, who knew Heracles, said so. But he doesn't accept the name Heracles! Ooohh! He calls himself Alcides, Heracles's birth name instead! Mystery!This is called INTRIGUE. It is meant for the early parts of a story. We are still in the second of 10 books.
>>285686053I feel it's better written than Apo but the problem is on the opposite side of the spectrum with Narita extending everything too much. Feels like he intended this to be a game instead and since it isn't he is exploring every side as much as he can.It isn't necessarily a problem and I like it, but with the pacing of releases it feels like not much has happened for how much you read.
>>285686899>I'm not that far in the LNIts gets explained
I remember when people thought Alcides was Nimrod
>>285685877Stats mean little when they are affected by the hero's rank and thus stronger Saint Graph. Hippo had some stats better than Alcides and Herk when she first appeared but they were ALL weaker because her rank as a hero is lower than theirs and so she had a weaker Saint Graph. Her Saint Graph ascended and that's why she got stronger but stats are utterly meaningless as they are NOT uniform.A Grand Servant will still have A-rank in strength, but they'll shit out magnitudes more power than any Servant with A str who is not of that rank. Bottom line is stats are a meme.
>>285687040Not me baby
>>285687040It's really funny.'Male and female servant sharing some sort of cloth Noble Phantasm' instantly made me think of Heracles and Hippolyta, but the stuff about the Cloth of Kush really convinced me back then it was Nimrod and Esau.
>>285687177>Both die and become the new Sita and Rama, always trying to get back to each other but it never happens
>>285686900Not sure what you're being so sarcastic about. I don't care about him being Heracles until he becomes an interesting character. OG Berserker also was a big lump of meat until Illya's flashback in UBW which made me care about him and his death. Just because they gave a character some big name doesn't make him entertaining by default.>>285686935I didn't read the novel so I can't really comment on that. I liked Baccano a lot, but now that I think about it, maybe that was thanks to the adaptation.And now that you posted them, Sieg and Siegfried were obviously the worst part of Apocrypha, SF didn't do anything THAT bad so far. I'm just waiting for something to like about it.
>>285687177have these two even had any progress on their romance arc
Her character arc was dumb and I hate it
Avalon? What's that?
>>285687218>I don't care about him being Heracles until he becomes an interesting characterYou should because of said intrigue. It's setting up a mystery about his resentment and the existing tension between him and Hippolyta. You're not meant to fully understand the depth of his character yet. We're in the beginning stage of the story. To borrow your own example, this would be like complaining about why you should care about Berserker in Stay Night when he first appears and Illya is revealing his identity and calling him the strongest. It's setup for the eventual delivery.Stay Night didn't dump the delivery on you on night 2, so why should Strange Fake? You're meant to care about the plot intrigue and implications being created by this scenario. Yes, it's a battle, but it's a battle that establishes a dynamic between these characters and gives you a reason to look for a resolution to the mystery of Alcides' character.
I think I'm gonna watch the Herc movie to understand the hype
>>285687401Nobody but Nasu cares about Extra or the moon cell. It's cool that he likes to write scifi and managed to tie it into fate, but nobody cares.
>>285687391You mean her not being mentally qualified to be a mage and just dropping magecraft altogether so she can get rehabilitation and walk normally? Leaving the magecraft crest to her little brother?
>>285687435don't do that
>>285686727mountain ascetics/communities and legends about them have existed for thousands of years
>>285687443>the most popular FGO event for like 7 years and only dropped once and now went back up to 1stNah.
>>285687391>>285687457I liked it well enough. There are far worse characters in apoc. It's kind of like a parallel to Rin but one where the character is forced to commit to a decision. Rin's moral dilemma is kind of lost when she's written to be so naturally talented that it doesn't really matter, as well as being supported/fucked by Shirou.
>>285687218Ive read the novels last week, theres nothing as bad as Apo but pretty much wait for a big anti climatic final for the novels becuase narita wants to keep going with the subversion seiha seinshoo; that idiot did the same in dursrara
>>285686935>Feels like he intended this to be a game insteadwell it literally started as an april fool's joke game
>>285686053>this modern/America bullshit: surveilance cameras, guns, cops, glowies, VegasThe rest of your post is valid, won't go there, but this is one of my favorite parts of the show, because you have some many American factions going at war here (the FBI, the natives, the regular police, the American magi...) and it makes the show feel unique compared to other wars. Compare that to Apocrypha that despite being set in Romania barely had any european flavor beyond the landscape, Amakusa and the Yggdmillennia could have fought in any other place and the plot would have likely remained the same. I'm glad the show has such an American flavor compared to the rest of Fate.
>>285687402>You should because of said intrigue. Not really. All it says is that these two characters have some background. Okay, sure, thank you, but for me to care about their backgrounds, at least let me know what kind of characters they are. But instead I just watch a fight after a fight. >To borrow your own example, this would be like complaining about why you should care about Berserker in Stay Night when he first appears and Illya is revealing his identity and calling him the strongest. It's setup for the eventual delivery.>Stay Night didn't dump the delivery on you on night 2, so why should Strange Fake?Because FSN was introducing characters and giving them depth from the very beginning. Sure, some of them only got their own stories much later, but by that moment I already had a bunch of main characters I cared about, and whenever we saw a fight, at least one of the Servants was someone I already had some opinion of. FSN didn't start with Lancer fighting against Assassin without any introductions, it didn't show me some random battle between a random hooded magic girl and a random blonde knight girl, it started with introducing Rin and Archer and making me care about them.
>>285687477I can go the distance
>>285687738Oh that one, yeah that one is kino despite bastardizing his myth
>>285687633>introduce a cool character like vlad in his homeland>do literally nothing with him>another servant asspulls a fortress NP she isn't even supposed to have to conveniently remove his fame boost and kill him at the halfway point>all for boring amakusa to become the final bossIt was disgusting how much apoc squandered itself.
>>285687759I forgive Disney's Hercules despite being inaccurate as hell because Hades is great.
>>285687508I know. But I first saw the term 'Mountain Men' here. I thought it was you guys' nickname for strong men in the Nasuverse, like Kuzuki and the guy in Mahoyo.
>>285687698>at least let me know what kind of characters they areYou know what kind of characters they are. Alcides is a man who would shoot at a child and goad Gilgamesh by calling him weak. Hippolyta is a woman who challenges those who outclass her as a matter of pride. If you need more than that, that's on you. You were already given the basics to begin wondering.
>>285687698>and whenever we saw a fight, at least one of the Servants was someone I already had some opinion of.So, like, did you go through Fate and acquire no opinions about Gilgamesh, or something?
>>285687698Different approach of storytelling, strange fake starts in the middle goes backwards then foward and viceversa in diffetent timelapse becuase thats how nsrita writes with multiple fsctions; Stay night just want you to care with rin and/ saber and shirou because they are the main POV, strsnge fake all of them are are Main POVs
>>285687698You come off sounding like this>ugh, it's just more fights>first it was Lancer and Archer, then it was Saber and Lancer, and now it's Saber and Berserker>when will we get to something to make me CARE about these charactersIt seems like you're just complaining that the delivery on "why you should care about them" is in a different order. Alcides showed up to fight and then you're given a reason to care about him shortly afterward. He's an antagonist, so it wouldn't make sense to give him a character introduction comparable to Rin and Archer. You get something like that with Gilgamesh and Tine or Flat and Jack anyway. >Gilgamesh is summoned>his original master gets ganked>Tine plays up her assumed role as his vassal while Gilgamesh acts bemused about the entire situationThis creates a dynamic between them and sets up expectations. The comparable example for Alcides would be when Berserker and Illya showed up to thrash Shirou and co. You get more about Alcides' dynamic with his master shortly after his introduction in battle, so it really is a non-issue.
>>285687633I'm not saying it's not unique, just kinda kills the mysterious part for me. Even though FSN or even Apocrypha are set in modern world, they still felt like magic is something unique and exists in the world of its own. In SF it feels like everyone knows what magic is, who servants are, what seihai sensou is etc. And that part is accentuated by the involvement of police, glowies and others.
>>285687775Meg is also easily one of the best princesses Disney ever had, and the muses being gospel singers were pure sovl
>>285687698>at least let me know what kind of characters they areBut they do. Alcides is shown to be an ubscrupulous cocky asshole who fights dishonorably and throws playground bully insults at his opponent; Hippolyta is shown to be a proud and honorable warrior who takes more issue with the fact that Alcides attacked a child than the fact he's the one who killed her.Did you watch the episode you're complaining about?
All this bullshit you idiots are discussing doesnt make sense becuase the next episode explain the backstories of many of the factions anyway>Alcides corrupted into avenger by the italian mafia>Fucking tsubaki and pale rider>All about sigma
>>285687771I'll never forget Apocrypha for this. He was one of the coolest Servants with an interesting motivation and they snuffed him hard, plus his vampire design looked very dumb in the anime.
>>285687861That's part of the main theme and the background struggle of the story. Mystery is on the verge of total collapse due to modern information technology and how ease it is to record and share things. It's not an accident that the story is set in America and surveillance plays a large part in it. The masquerade falling apart is meant to be an exciting yet tragic aspect of the whole story.
>>285687861Congrats you understood the entire subversion of this war lol
>>285683068She's the son of Circe
>>285687538Okay, but Apo does not do a good job showing why Caules is more qualified and he ends up with Waver anyway so we get more of him but not of his siter who I like more
>>285687930Notice that multiple people addressed that and realize how inane you sound for pointing it out now.
I'm just gonna go and say it.Fate hasn't had a SINGLE OP that's both good and memorable after the one time they got it right with Disillusion. Everything since has been either generic as fuck or a Sawano rap.
>>285687776>But I first saw the term 'Mountain Men' heredamn, how young are you?
>>285687861I get you, but I guess it's inevitable since it covers a HGW on a scale not seen before. At the same time, all those parties are related to magic in one way or another, and the average folk doesn't seems aware of what's going on, it feels like a true war among magi, especially compared to the mess that was the 5th war participant-wise.
>>285688046BRAVE SHINE
>>285688046Shut the FUCK up. Disillusion was mogged by what came immediately after it. Then every other OP was shit.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqtgOuWtbCo
>>285688046I really liked el melon's op, though I'm partial to instrumental songs
>>285688097It puts the world in perspective. Japan is seen as backwater hicks by the mage association, and a ritual there is half native retards and half arrogant foreigners who got tricked into it. America is a young nation but far more important on the world stage and has much greater resources to catch up to Yurope.
Vlad was boring. I'm glad Amakusa killed him.Dude had to depend on the fame boost.
>>285688185He was boring because Higashide refused to do anything with him for the equivalent of a dozen episodes, then reduced the entire legend of Dracula down to a mindless retard vampire. Darnic was hardly any better, he just stood around letting his minions fuck about and was conveniently removed at the same time as Vlad. Amakusa is still more boring than either of them even with how hard he was pushed.
>>285688046Based Disillusionchad. That being said, I liked Brave Shine, the Zero openings and this one (I know the rap part is divisive, but I think the opening itself is cool), though Disillusion is still THE Fate opening for me.
>>285687891>>285687782>If you need more than that, that's on you. You were already given the basics to begin wondering.Not how it works. It's the author's job to make the audience care about characters, not just "look, he is a man of few words and he can shoot civilians, that's enough for now", I don't have to grasp at straws in attempt to find a reason to care.>>285687826Sure, and I hope it pays off eventually. It's not like I want to hate the show, I am just worried about it going full ufotable "whatever, just more fights" way. If it doesn't, I'm good.>>285687835>It seems like you're just complaining that the delivery on "why you should care about them" is in a different order.Maybe? But it's been 4(5) episodes and I still didn't get a reason to care about any of them, obviously that's where I start thinking "what if they just think that the main attraction of Fate is fights".
>>285688120Adding the part of Shirou fighting Archer was such a huge troll move, the first time I watched the anime I was eagerly waiting for Archer to be revived and at the end... Nothing came out of that. I didn't know about the UBW movie until someone told me later, but man I really wanted to see Archer vs Shirou in the TV show.
>>285688250Dracula wasn't a mindless retard vampire though. It was Darnic controlling him with Vlad trying to fight back.
>>285688270>Not how it works. It's the author's job to make the audience care about charactersNope, your standards are out the fucking window. You got two key data points: he's Heracles and he's willing to kill children, something Heracles would never do.You should be asking for more information. Your curiosity should be hooked. If it is not, IT IS ON YOU. You are declining to ask the questions that are written on the wall. That is not the author's fault, the author cannot drag you out of your petulant stoicism.
>>285688046BRRAAAVE SHINEEEE
>>285688046https://youtu.be/hyH2inDY9eI?si=tOYTHqM-wTSkiYWS
>>285688046It's insane how much better Deen/Stay Night OST was than what every other adaptation had.
>>285688270>look, he's a roaring monster that follows a sadistic little girl around and does her bidding
>>285688137El Melon has a great tune and is the most original by definition for not going full instrumental, too bad the visuals are so ASS. I'm not sure what Troyca was going for there.
>>285688017Odysseus fucked that?!
>>285688422Reluctantly.Penelope must be a hell of a woman.
>>285688388I'll never forget this one. Makes me cry every single time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiOHxtgqgnM
>>285688447Not that hot based on her being added to FGO now.
>>285687776Nasu believes that any human that lives entirely detached from modernity, living in the woods or the mountains alone, has some sort of primal power that modern humans entirely lack. Almost every top tier human in TM stories is some form of mountain main. The more detached you are from civilization the stronger you are >Kuzuki>Pepe>ShikiAll top tier humans are mountain menTo tell you how strong mountain men are in TM stories; Nasu says soujuuro at the start of Mahoyo when he just came down from the mountain is the strongest TM protagonist at least until he became used to civilization and grew weaker. Stronger than Shirou, stronger than Shiki, even stronger than other Shiki.
>>285688137>El MelloiFor me it's the ED.
You're all sleeping on the Babylonia anime EDs
>>285688371>You should be asking for more information. Your curiosity should be hooked. If it is not, IT IS ON YOU. You are declining to ask the questions that are written on the wall.Ohhh author-dono, you called this character Akechi Mitsuhide and had him say that he is ready to die for his Master?! Let me suck your cock right now, that made me so intrigued!
>>285688530Prover is a banger.
>>285688270>It's the author's job to make the audience care about charactersAnd he did. You're autistic.
>>285688507Kirei is one of the strongest humans in the world at the time of Zero. It's not consistent at all.
>>285688498You may have confused someone, we've never seen Penelope.
>>285688422In fate, they're pretty clear they never had sex because he was way too obsessed about his wife, and Circe was tsundere back then, both of them kinda regret how they ended things with Odysseus leaving in the middle of the night and Circe never seeing him off.Like they make it clear Odysseus in fate would never even consider looking at another woman but his wife, and Circe is still hung up on him despite nothing actually happening.
>>285688583Only when he's mainlining command spells like nobody's business. Surprise surprise, when you're jacked up on enough magical energy to start a holy grail war on your own, you can do crazy shit.
>>285688612>they make it clear Odysseus in fate would never even consider looking at another woman but his wifeCalypso 100% raped him though.
>>285688612Odysseus is hot I can see it
TM likes whitewashing Greek horniness
>>285688614No really, as a top tier church executor in his prime Kirei is one of the strongest humans in the world. Bazzett would have lost to him in Zero, and only slightly edges him out in FSN after 10 years of lazy debauchery. His Zero performance is very muted because he passively goes along with Tokiomi's shitty overly cautious plans.
>>285688507and even then he was still strong enough to make lugh his bitch
Do you think they'll show Illya in the next episode for maximum CLAP?
>the Kireifag is back to wanking him again after getting btfo
>>285688735He's not THAT strong. Bazett isn't that strong either. They're both high specs for the modern day, but not even close to "strongest in the world". Kirei would be dumpstered by the Burial Agency and Bazett would fall effortlessly before Lorelei.
>>285685124>nero>Only looks like Artoria because Nasu knew she wouldn't be popular on her ownLmao
>>285688532If you know anything about his history then that would make you intrigued, yes.
>>285688791I have no idea what you're talking about. There can be more than one kireifag, he is pretty cool after all.
>>285688735>a top tier church executor in his primeHe's not. He pales in comparison to the real monsters of the Church. He's good, but not THAT good.
>>285688859Fate Ciel is very different from tsuki Ciel. Not much is known about her, but she's definitely far weaker than in tsukihime.
>>285688634No! He came so it was making love
>>285688507Aren’t xians also mountain men by their methodology?
>>285688913It's less to do with specifically Ciel and more that Kirei took a long pause from his duties as an executor to pursue other paths in the name of finding some kind of calling. He's a strong combatant, but he lacks anything truly exceptional in his repertoire to make him stand out for more than his baseline capabilities. He's a bit of a generalist, but he's got real skills in martial arts at the very least.
>>285688634How can I rape Odysseus too?
>>285688971yeah
>>285688735>They're the strongest of the strongest of the strongest of the worldThey're not even in the top 1000World is a big placeLords of clock towerThe mages of the wandering sea Burial agents Head of the church God eaters PsychicsDivine blood even in the modern dayKoumaJust randomly people who developed odd powersSoujuuroShikiDaybitIf you don't think there are thousands of outliers out there in the world that are beyond understanding then you haven't read much fate yet In every part of the world there's some freak of nature who has unnatural powers just living their lifeCiel was once just a normal girl There are plenty of "Ciel's" out there that just haven't been discovered.
>>285688259>I know the rap part is divisive, but I think the opening itself is coolVisually it's great, and I sincerely believe the melody is good from the beat drop onwards, enough to make up for the first half rap... but the fucking LYRICS.>Go take some cover>Butchya gotta break out to be the brat>Cuz ya tired of being just a copycat>Feel the blues>Chiratsuku sujigaki midasu kikatsu wo feedback>Duck and cover>Butchya gotta bite back>This ain’t chitchat>Cuz ya tired of being just a copycat>Cuts and bruises>Chouzoku shita jigen no keiyaku wo kizamu>Fist emblazoned
>>285688735Kotomine probably isn't even top 50 in the church
>>285689091Lyrics are jibberish to me
>>285688818Nope, not at all. Until they show his personality, how he interacts with other characters, give him some monologues and not just a rehash of who he was and what he did, I don't care. It's not just "historical/mythological figures fight each other" that makes Fate work, it's about giving them their own personalities, relationships, chemistry etc.
>There is a timeline where Kirei, Amakusa and Hansa all became brothers
>>285688913Ciel doesn't exist in Fate. Roa died in the 1800s after getting in the path of an angry frenchman. Elesia should exist, but whether she even learns of her magical talent is up in the air.
>>285686899>A priestess of Artemis>Wanted to fuck HeraklesWuuh?
SEIBA!
>>285689397Herc is just that good.
>>285689360Nyaruko claimed another life...
>>285689353Amakusa in Apo avoids Kirei because he's psychotic no matter the timeline.Kirei may go after him if he tries helping him.
>>285688185One of the things I liked about Traum was showing how far Vlad can go without relying on fighting. Making up for the difference in armies with his strategies and predictions were pretty good.That aside, it isn't just the fame boost, it's the de-boost too. We don't know how his normal baseline is because>inside Romania he gets the best power boost possible>outside Romania in addition to losing the bonus, he gets debuffed from Dracula's fameHe said if inside Romania he was at 10, outside it he dropped to 6, that's a 40% drop. He is the sole servant in the entire franchise that suffered a suppression from fame.
>>285689439seiba
>>285689680Where was it stated he gets debuffed?When he became Dracula, he always gets a fame boost since Dracula is THE vampire everywhere.
>>285689841>https://fateapocryphathetranslation.wordpress.com/volume-2/chapter-3/chapter-3-15/>Even if his fame was equal to zero, as long as his legend existed somewhere in the world, Karna was unmistakably a great hero. On the other hand, outside of Romania, Vlad III was only known as a blood-sucking vampire.>Having been summoned with the characteristics of a hero, Lancer of Black’s fame didn’t give him any power. Rather, it inhibited his ability to display his original specs.I think this last part is meant to note if it was the Extra Vlad this wouldn't be an issue due to Innocent Monster, but the in this case Dracula inhibits his parameters.
>>285690205After finding out what her motivation is I want her to win so bad.
>>285690019Poor guy can't catch a break.
>>285688046
>>285690243Turning Alcatraz's ultimate labyrinth into an isekai dungeon?
>>285683990It worked
SEIBA stare
>>285690335Abhorrent taste
>>285690469Apo songs were hot garbage.
>>285690335Good taste.
>>285690372There's more? I meant erasing magic from the world.
Tine? More like tiny
>>285690673That's Haruri's wish, not Prelati's.
Sigmaballs
>>285690722Haruri's is to stop the concealment of magic.
>>285690843I heard Sigma has ligma
>>285690335>Carnival Phantasm opening firstInmaculate taste.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62c7_zKoSV8
>>285690939KIMI TO
>>285690961ISSHO GA ICHIBAN
>>285691074SUKI YOTTE MOTTO GYUTTO NE
>>285691102KIMI WO (HAI!)
>>285690866Which naturally leads to its depletion.Either way, Prelati's goal is not that.
>>285688735>No really, as a top tier church executor in his prime Kirei is one of the strongest humans in the worldHe was never one of the strongest Executors, faggot. Even his profile says he is B tier.>Executor: B>He's a first-class Executor, but can't compare to the A Grades, the Super A Grades, and the Super Super A Grades.
>>285691241I'm betting Hansa's a super-A but he's humble.
>>285691266Hansa is comparable to Illumia according to Narita. Super A are likely the Burial Agency, or Mario's nun squad.
>>285691141>Either way, Prelati's goal is not that.Indeed, I reread it now and it's degrading magic into magecraft, not into nothing.
>>285691347Burial Agency is the best of the best. If a "Super Super A" category exists it has to be them.
The music in episode 4 was unusually gud.
>>285691543Whore elf.
>>285691543What Servant would be the most compatible with Frieren?
>>285690722My wish is for Haruri to become ridiculously popular for no fucking reason.
>>285691627A young witch called Ashley.
>>285690019Extra Vlad isn't even a vampire oddly enough His skills are also ironically WAY more apt for what Vlad was doing in traum compared to it being apocrypha Vlad. They're different aspects of the same guy, apoc Vlad was the count, the regal noble who doesn't need to fight himself, extra Vlad was the crusader, the warrior, the guerilla tactics expect, only extra Vlad has military tactics skill. Entire sequence would work better with extra Vlad Nevermind the fact that FGO Vlad isn't even extra Vlad but rather "a constantly active Dracula vlas who always has his Dracula NP active" despite it making no sense because his Dracula NP is supposed to magnify all vampire weaknesses to the absolute limit whole raising his stats, and in traum we see berserker Vlad being in direct sunlight and crossing rivers, which are both things vampires can't do. We all know that FGO Vlad was meant to be apoc Vlad but they changed it last second "to be different"
>>285691627>ancient immortal magician bad with facial expressions and only interested in practicing her autistic fixationsKashin Koji.
>>285691809>in traum we see berserker Vlad being in direct sunlight and crossing riversTo be fair, the first one is a thing Dracula does in the book
>Young man fistfights a priest trying to prevent his girlfriend's abortion>Priest deadnames trans man to beat him
>>285688046The ones by Kalafina were great
>>285682139>>285682994Wait, did that actually happen?
What they did to Vlad in the anime was a war crime.
>>285691543Either Avalon le Faes would fit her.
>>285692010That does look a lot better, but I'm sure the story fucks him over just as hard.
>>285691898>Nun fights old hag over a teenager>Priest steals cup from a WW2 veteran
>>285692045The story fucked over him hard too, but at least his vampire form looks cool in the manga.
>Highschool student fights his alter ego to prove that NBR is the better incest
>>285691543>Use this gif to convey my euphoria listening to this episode’s OST>Anons start talking about Frieren instead>mfw
>>285692126>zesty open shirt>coolWell I guess it still *is* better compared to the anime
So how Chadly will Sir Chad be this week? >>285682117Ayaka looks hot in wormgirl cosplay surprisingly.>>285684647His bitch breaker cock certainly is.
>>285692211He won't even show up
>>285682117Damn Zouken took another one.
>Illegal Alien breaks into couple's house, cripples them and kidnaps their daughter
>man in the moon fights Buddha
>>285690335F/Z op2 is incredible and my favourite
>>285692126To be fair the LN described him as a monstrous looking vampire since Darnic fused with him instead of Vlad activating the NP normally, so the anime is probably more accurate.
>>285692252he will, they're remixing scenes in a weird way
Needs more dumas.
Which female servant has the smelliest fart?
>>285692680Do they have time tho? Like Sigma is already going go take a chunk of the episode by himself then there is Herc summon I guess it could end with him meeting Enkidu
>>285692758Probably Jinako.
>>285688046brohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk6850-2YsI
>>285692758Definitely Jinako.
>>285691809Berserker Vlad is weird because he feels like a modified Lancer Vlad because they couldn't figure out how to code two Vlads of the same class at the start of FGO. He really had next to nothing related to Dracula at all. I think his animation updates might have reflected it more, but it's still ultimately a very weird choice and depictionn.
>>285691809So, Extra Vlad is a Servant created based in the hystorical figure of Vlad III, while Apo Vlad is a copy based in the association of the hystorical character with Dracula, right?
If Dracula exists, does that mean Van Hellsing is also real?
>>285693476A better way to put it is Extra is a representation of his history and legend as a warrior, while apoc is as a ruler. Really it's just two different writers' interpretation of the figure and putting their own spin on him independently. Extra more positively acknowledges the vampire legend without strictly incorporating it into the servant. Apoc is how the real historical figure would hate the post-mortem legend but has its abilities incorporated into the servant.
>>285693542Vlad III exists. "Dracula" the vampire does not exist.
>>285693542>Dracula existsVampires exist in fate regardless of Vlad/Dracula, but Dracula himself was never a thing.
>>285690205arururu?
>>285692775it looks like they're ending the sigma sequence with richard intercepting assassin and showing the enkidu meetup and training next episode
>>285693542No. Also, Van Hellsing was a mere old man who knew about Vampires in the book. It was Jonathan Harker and Quincy Morris that killed Dracula.
>>285693578That's such an interesting concept. Good way to justify the existence of two different Servants with the same basis.
francesca armpits
francesca arururumpits
>>285694080But according to lots of anime Van Hellsing was the strongest vampire killer from a lineage of vampire killers. I guess that's not a thing.
I find ironic how in the original stay night lore the Holy Grail War was considered a mere curiosity by magi and just a small part of the broader Nasuverse only to eventually end up becoming the very core of the Nasuverse.
>>285694438It's still not "the very core" of anything, but they did eventually clarify that the "considered a mere curiosity" was literally the cover story. The higher ups of the Magus Association always knew it was a huge deal, I mean the damn thing was kickstarted by Zelretch. They just kept it under heavy wraps, both the department of evocation and with assistance from Zouken on site who fucking hated interlopers observing, together they put up enough of a smokescreen that the magus world at large wouldn't learn it was a goddamn Root Drilling Machine.Because if they did it would've started a magus world war.
>>285682013Reminder that Jets can do a Tsubame Gaeshi without the need of foothold unlike Kojirou.
>>285694438The Holy Grail War itself is not the core of the Nasuverse. It's just the Servants
>>285694522Why is Lancelot brought up so much in these threads? He is not particularly relevant to FSF.
>>285694594Because unlike Alcides he actually beat Gil 1 vs 1.
It's just not the same without the unhingedness Jetsposters used to have
>>285694594It's just one guy.
>>285694504It was a known issue but also low priority. Zelretch fucked off centuries ago, and they knew the 3 families in modern times were all incompetent retards.
>>285686899The caveat is that it's an NP effect that boosts her to nearly all As or above.
>>285694745>t.
>>285694438>You have sex with Sakura>You feel something slimy and soft wriggling inside her vagina as you introduce your penis thereWhat do you do?
>lancelottoy horse victim
>>285694845>KoO the COVID-19 Pfizer Ouchi>B-BUT NOT A W-WEA-It is a biological weapon. Your move.
>>285694594It's a /dbs/ reject ignore it.
>>285694594He's effectively just a shitposting memeNo one actually likes him, but power level shitposters see him as an "answer" to GIlgamesh because they hate Gilgamesh so much and he leaves them seething every day that they beg for a single character that can beat GilgameshSo they latched onto LancelotIt all started because of /vg/ shitposting from some power level retard called Melvin who autistically hated Gilgamesh because his sister said he looked like Gilgamesh once, he was an actual schizo who shitposted daily. Jetfag was a well known shitposter back in the day because of how retarded he was, he spent every day power level shitposting that lancelot had no limits and could beat anyone.It literally all just started because some guy really really hated Gilgamesh and couldn't stand him being the strongestIts the same reason they latch onto Alcidies now because they hate Gilgamesh so they'll latch onto any character they see as an "answer" to gilgamesh
>>285695068I like both Alcides and Gil though
>>285691853When he's "dracula" he takes on all the stereotypical weaknesses vampires have, whether they were in the original novel or not, as long as enough people believe its a vampire weakness. He gains strength but he gains excess weaknesses, that anyone could beat him as long as they take advantage of those weaknesses properly.Garlic, crosses, water, sunlight, fire, church, etc
>>285695068>lancelot had no limitsHe doesn't.>and could beat anyoneHe can.Cope.
>>285695068>couldn't stand him being the strongestNot even the strongest Archer btw.
Only a bit more than half a dayOnly a bit more than half a dayOnly a bit more than half a day...
>>285695068Lancelot's KoA is only a soft counter to GoB. It stops working when Gil opens up the gate wide. But Gil only tried to do that once in all of Zero, and bitchass Tokiomi forced him down with a command seal. Gil could have won the entire 4th war on that first night.
>I like him because he was me when I was a man.
Mordred beat Artoria, she is the strongest knight of the roundtable.
>>285695294She fucks herself, doesn't she?
>>285695284Nice headcanon. https://www.tmdict.com/en/ke.kayneth-el-melloi-archibaldLancelot is canonically the greatest threat of the 4th HGW to all enemy Servants according to Nasu and could obliterate anyone that isn't Lancer. Gilgamesh can win if he runs like a bitch and kills Masters which isn't anything new for him, he tried to run from Shirou when he was losing and targetted Illya because he was afraid of Herakles LOL.
Knights of Charlemagne>Knights of the round table>b-b-but the round table is way stronger I dont care they always end up jobbing in the end they are the gilgamesh of knight groups, I prefer people who actually win.
>>285695380selfcest is just incest with extra steps anon
>>285695401The way Nasu wants to have his cake and eat it too with KotR is a bit unsettling>They're the ultimate idealistic moralfags who represent the ultimate paragons of purity, they are the ultimate of all morality, perfection incarnate, the greatest king to ever exist, the ultimate idealistic perfect and pure inhuman kingbut >Triston laughs in camelot singularity that back in the day wiping out a few of our own villages with the people still in them strategically was just a day's work, Arthur ordered it all the time, she never had issues with it. Yeah we just do what we're told without high minded morals, if Arthur says to kill the peasants we do without question. Arthur himself had a lot of questionable actions over the years, like that time he ordered the death of all the children in the kingdom once. Even Archer comments in UBW route that Saber had to nuke her own towns occasionally to stop enemy supply routes.With Paladins you don't really have that issueThey're just the ultimate idealistic retardsI wouldn't even say round table is stronger, says in Roland's mats he's the best servant you could summon in most wars. They're cartoon characters.
>>285691809They note in Apocrypha if they held out until day he'd get weakened, so rather than instantly burning in the sun he has some loss of power during the day.You are right that it's really weird how he is handled in Traum. In everything but abilities he is essentially the same Vlad of Apocrypha, to the point if Kadoc didn't point out he ''fights like a Dead Apostle'' and ''he detected Assassins through Presence Concealment by sniffing their blood'' you'd believe this Vlad was a Lancer all along.>>285693476One theory is that Extra Vlad is older. Apo Vlad is his peak as a king, Extra is after he carried out a ton more of atrocities people betrayed him.He delves a bit in his bond CE on that. And it implies the personality warp from Protection from Faith A+++ is actually neutering his inherent madness rather than causing him to be insane. Hence why he is a Lancer instead of a Berserker
>b-but Gil could have w-won the 4th in one night!!!!Gilgamesh himself says that if he starts solely focusing on winning he begins to focus the Masters instead of the Servants, outright stated. And we also see he starts running like a bitch the moment he starts losing so he could definitely cause Kariya to implode by running away like a faggot for 12 hours. He cannot beat Lancelot 1 vs 1.
>>285688046we know you don't like brave shineyou don't have to keep flaunting your abysmal lack of taste
>>285692045He is fucked over regardless in Apocrypha but I'd say the manga version was a bit better handling it since you see there is a back and forth.In the LN it was him being ultra fast and sturdy forcing all the servants to work together and slowly overpower his healing.In the anime he became a punching bag by everyone around.In the manga you can see him getting close to biting or impaling them here and there, with another servant having to cover for the target.To be fair for the anime though, they added a scene that Dracula impales his own feet and Darnic says Vlad is resisting. But by far, that was the worst depiction.
>>285693542No.Though since there is the Vlad to Dracula thing, there is a possibility some sort of warrior roaming around became the basis of Van Hellsing. In that case, the person in question would then gain either Innocent Monster or some sort of upgrade because of it.
>Gilgamesh literally puts on his armor in an instant to block Alcides arrow>he somehow couldn't do the same when Shirou was about to cut off his arm and instead tried to grab EAI get that Gil pride was his own downfall but jesus he really was a brain dead retard in UBW huh
>>285694594Basically what others said. There was a shitposter really obsessed with Lancelot that couldn't stop yapping about it.Until his public execution in front of the entire board.
>>285695558>atrocitiesall I see is him defending his country and his people against their enemies
>>285695417but incest is wrong
>>285695686Gil is a victim of his own popularity. Every single writer given permission to make a fate story wants to include Gilgamesh, every single one wants to put their own spin on him and do cool shit and one-up previous appearances. His original FSN role was barely even a character, just a foil to Shirou and final boss in 2/3 routes.
>>285695640LoD Vlad from the novel was too strong and would hurt Gilfag's feelings if he was displayed properly. He was TELEPORTING while fighting everyone at the same time, including 2 Servants that by themselves are Top Tier. It's the best feat I've read from REAL Fate (none of that offscreen garbage from FGO), on par with Ozymandias in Fate Prototype. Shit was crazy.
>>285695706>8 years agoI really hope it's not the same guy. That would just be sad.
>>285695675>there is a possibility some sort of warrior roaming around became the basis of Van Hellsing.Van Helsing is a purely fictious character made up by Bram Stoker
>>285695401You could also argue a bit on the power since Astolfo and Bradamante get weird gimmicks instead.But yeah, Round Table lacks the team work the paladins do. As wacky as they are, Roland, Astolfo and Bradamante were all competent separately and together to cover each other in a war situation. The Paladins don't collapse by inner conflicts. On the contraty, Charlemagne understands their justice may clash here and there (with Bradamante siding with Constantine) and that there won't be hard feelings for it.
>>285695706>SaberThat's like posting Ko-Gil and pretensing it's a win lol this is just sad.
>>285695756Because he was such a well known schizo shitposter, every year you still have several pretenders pretending to be him. You can't talk about lancelot, gilgamesh, heracles or power levels at all without some guy pretending to be a retarded jetfag because they treat it like a joke.
NEW ED Leaks
>>285695707lol
>>285684302>9 volumesJesus, how does a holy war goes on for that long?
>>285695822You just know....
>>285695822>horse in the pool Lol.
>>285695807>gilfag has no argument so he has to pretend Materials are a jokeI'm sure Nasu was in on your inside joke when he wrote those Material entries buddy.
>>285695822
>>285695800Because until that happened, Melvin kept shitposting Saber Lancelot was still Berserker and beyond the limits of the limits.It was only after those mats came out that he got so butthurt he spent years in denial claiming Saberlot isn't the Berserker in spite of the preceding years he did the opposite.
predict which characters anime-onlys will like most
>>285695848
>>285695068>No one actually likes himHey now, I actually liked him a lot in Zero, both because of the action scenes as well as him as a servant.>his sister said he looked like Gilgamesh onceGIWTWM
>>285695822both prelatis have alot of nasty sex
>>285695857>Melvin kept shitposting Saber Lancelot was still Berserker and beyond the limits of the limits.Literally doesn't work as Nasu said Berserker was superior im Zero mats and Saber jobbed to the same guy Berserker oneshotted in life. Materials came after Camelot Singularity, pretending Saber was anything but a meme by that point just doesn't work.
>>285695294What causes a man to be like this
>>285695822>Arururu?I fucking loathe this tranny.
>>285695848>Both images released in full earlier, since at least last thread>Cut to this thread and someone chopped the spoiler image up into much smaller spoilersThis is how game companies do DLC these days.>>285678909
>>285695866Richard
>>285696030And you are both grounded for it
>>285696030
>>285696053
>>285696080Wait what the fuck?
>>285695068>It all started because of /vg/ shitposting from some power level retard called Melvin who autistically hated Gilgamesh because his sister said he looked like Gilgamesh onceI refuse to believe such levels of autisms are real. The fact he's named like Waver's homo friend in case files doesn't helps.
>>285696080
>>285696092Rosen Garten Saga is a very special mangaThis is Dietrich in it
>>285695116Do you want them to kiss?
>>285692552The problem is not that he's a monster, is that the design looks goofy af with those gigantic ears and the mouth opened all the time.
>>285695867Cute
>>285695867Best Masters
>>285695857>>285695922It looks stupid now but if you know the story it does make sense.>Saber Lancelot gets released, his NP is A++ Anti Unit but it says it has a beam version that is the original NP as well, Berserker didn't have said beam>Saber Knight of Owner has no mention of being locked with Arondight unlike Berserker, who around this time still required to lock FSG and KoO to use Arondight>at A++, Saber Lancelot's beam was the 3rd strongest in all of Fate at that time only behind Ea and Excalibur>Knight of the Lake skill basically doubled anything he needed at will>months later Materials come out and Saber Lancelot gets a massive rape all over, gimped parameters so Knight of the Lake isn't that good anymore, his Arondight now A rank unlike Berserker's A++, beam also A rank>months later Berserker is released in Extella Link, he now gained the beam that he didn't have before, doesn't need a chant to use it unlike Saber, and can use all his NPs at the same time without any blocks, can also shapeshift into other Servants and gain their abilitiesIt was a string of shitpost that all happened within 2016. Saberlot went from a complete upgrade to Zerkerlot and shortly after became weaker, and then Zerkerlot got buffed to high heaven gained all the stuff that made the original Saberlot better in the first place.
I just finished watching the Lord El-Melloi serie of 13 episodes and liked it a lot. I heard it's actually a light novel and I wanted to know if there was a sequel to this story
>>285696284>sbaer lancelots NP is A while berserkers is A+++Most people forget but the entire reason Arondight is A rank(in both versions of Lancelot) is because there was a point two or three years into FGO where Nasu randomly decided there are way way too many A+ and A++ NPs now, so he just went down the list and made a bunch of NPs go down a rank or lose their + mark. Lancelot was one of the casualities.Its not that saber lancelot is weaker, its that both versions of lancelot basically got hit in the nerf wave. However berserker lancelot had his complete materials come out before the nerf wave hit, so people think he's still A++Jetfag was coping back in the day that when Saber's mats came out it would show that Arondight was still A++ even though it got hit by the nerf ingame, only for his complete materials to confirm the nerf wave was indeed canon>Arjuna, EMIYA, Mordred, Fergus, Beowulf, Paracelsus, Orion got their post upgrade ranked down from A++ to A or A+>EMIYA Alter, MHX, Lancelot, Lancelot Berserker got their pre-upgrade ranked down from A++ to A>Babbage got his post upgrade ranked up from A++ to EXIt was a long time ago so people forget the actual story behind itNasu couldn't allow shitters like Mordred or Fergus to take away how special excalibur was, he had to remove most A++ NPs
>>285696375There's a sequel in the form of the remaining volumes of El Melloi Case Files, and in the form of the novel series El Melloi Adventures.
>>285696550I see, is it worth reading?
>>285695822but I like the current ED...
>>285694438The grail war being considered a curiosity was always very flimsily justified, since, you know, it's a key to the fucking Third Magic. The thing basically any mage would die for.
>>285696550I think there's a special new years episode that only aired onceAlso a lot of FGO events are written by the original authors of a series, so they can end up including a lot of lore drops from the series. I remember FGO Case Files event being one of the alright ones. Too late to read it now though if you haven't already.
>>285694422NTA due multiple adaptations of Dracula reduce the number of the characters in the cast or change things outright, for example modern adaptations and interpretations make Mina Harker to be the reincarnated wife of Dracula despite the novel never implies being a thing.
>>285696503>Arondight is A rank(in both versions of Lancelot)Now you are just straight up making shit up lol. Not even the wiki agrees with this shit and has separate ranks for both versions, where do you even got this from? Zerkerlot doesn't have an Arondight rank in FGO and in his mats it's listed A++.
>>285696635It was always fake.
>>285696698・アルジュナ(宝具ランクアップ後) (変更前) A++ (変更後) A+ ・エミヤ(宝具ランクアップ後) (変更前) E～A++ (変更後) E～A ・エミヤ〔オルタ〕 (変更前) E～A++ (変更後) E～A ・オリオン(宝具ランクアップ後) (変更前) A++ (変更後) A+ ・チャールズ･バベッジ(宝具ランクアップ後) (変更前) A++ (変更後) EX ・謎のヒロインX (変更前) A++ (変更後) A+ ・パラケルスス(宝具ランクアップ後) (変更前) A++ (変更後) A+ ・フェルグス(宝具ランクアップ後) (変更前) A++ (変更後) A+ ・ベオウルフ(宝具ランクアップ後) (変更前) A++ (変更後) A+ ・モードレッド(セイバー)(宝具ランクアップ後) (変更前) A++ (変更後) A+ ・ランスロット(セイバー) (変更前) A++ (変更後) A ・ランスロット(バーサーカー) (変更前) A++ (変更後) AHe only goes back up to A++ post NP interlude which isn't canon. Saber Lancelot's mats proved the nerf was official and wasn't just a cosmetic change.
>>285696780Bro that's Knight of Owner for Berserker not Arondight. He doesn't have Arondight listed in the game.
>>285696589I think it could be worth reading until the end of Case Files, to at least get a few answers about Gray's situation. No idea about Adventures though; I hear it blueballs the plot quite a bit, and I get the impression that it goes a little too hard on the fanservice.
>>285696687>wanted to chase his hero>accepts he sucks ass at magecraft>but also neglects his body and grows his hair out like a faggotLifting could have saved him. Better yet, lifting in the mountains.
>>285696780>Saber Lancelot's mats proved the nerf was official and wasn't just a cosmetic changeQuite the contrary as Saberlot mats list Knight of Owner as A+ which would go against what it has ingame for Berserker. His parameters also differ from the ingame version. Your narrative contradicts itself.
>>285695948Horrors beyond one's comprehension.
Francesca should have to be the face of FSF and be the first dlc character in fgo
>>285685877>LCK DCu's victim.
>>285695842most horses actually like the water
>>285688388Kenji Kawaii was god-tier
Nasuverse's powerscaling autism is on a whole different level I swear.
>>285690335>Fate/Stay Night: TV ReproductionI always like the Avalon light beam>le secret warHow the fuck do you explain this?
>sigma is supposed to be an empty shell with no desire for anything>but likes comedy movies and charlie chaplin>also had sex with francesca, which automatically creates feelings in menI don't get it
>he actually replied twice to the same postThe Melvin impersonator sucks
>>285696094The name Melvin is from when 4chan's yearly april fool's gave users unique names that year.>>285695756>>285695807Also this. After Jetfag the 1st, who migrated from /a/ together to /vg/ when UBW showed FGO trailers at the end of episodes, who also had some abilities of reading Japanese, left after a "victory speech", attaching an image of JETS in the rain(?) claiming he won't always be here but his legacy will, there have been pretenders ever since. Jetfag the 2nd is the one I think got the whole higashite twitter thing going, and the 2nd himself had even less japanese reading ability BUT would at least translate shit when trying to argue and shitposts. The ones that came after did not do even that, only meming KoH/EAM and often bringing up Raikou.t. jetfag scholar
>>285696835ok thank you
>>285695686>Nasu doing mental gymnastic because he keeps downplaying Shirou while everyone else keep upscaling Gilgamesh.
>>285696871Didn't ingame Quetz have her NP as A ranked while mats listed it EX as well I remember that being pointed out as well as a counterpoint to shitposting.
>>285697069I forgot to mention, "Melvin" refers mostly to the 2nd (or onwards), if not collectively, because that april fools name trick happened AFTER the og victory speech.
>>285697048Do you have an actual argument or will you pretend the Schrödinger's Melvin won you the argument? Wrap it up.
>>285682013I fucking hate this bitch.
>>285682013I hate fuck this bitch
>>285697069>>285697158This is the best thing I have ever seen from the Fate fandom. God bless powerscaling autism.
>>285697434That's a man.
>>285697031He was empty after being sucked by Francesca
>>285689397Have you seen True Herc?
>>285697031>is named Sigma>has sex with tranniesSigma grind bros...
The STRONGEST of the STRONG.
>>285697727Fat
>>285697727I wonder what prompted the developers to make a random sacrificial bitch a super duper powerful being.
MelvinMelvinBrother of the Joker
>>285697755Please clap.
>>285697755>the developersDo you realise that it's Nasu who is behind all this? Olga is one of Nasu's favourite FGO characters. Both of his two FGO favourites (Olga and Lev) got substantial buffs. Firstly, they are strong in terms of gameplay. Secondly, in terms of power levels they also got buffed. Thirdly, it's very obvious that they are his favourites, since they also feature in the Melty Blood crossover gag as well, that Nasu apparently supervised to make sure that they got right. Despite being supposedly minor FGO characters, they also have a pretty decent amount of anime screen time for no reason, for example Olga (mainline version) gets an arc in CF which got adapted.
Also Nasu's other favourite characters include people like Rin and Arc. Why do you think Rin gets wanked hard?
>>285697930Did Nasu stop giving a shit about Sakura in FGO?
>>285697960Maybe valentines will be Sakura 5...
>>285697960Yeah bro just don't look for Summer 9 + OC3 event haha
SIGMABALLSSSSS
>>285697755Make who what? Olga's just a central character in the main story and a Beast, what did you expect?
>>285682013>ArururuWhy does this tranny make this noise? He's a man.
>>285697727Funny she's like Arc, a copy of the Earth's soul except completely lacking the substance. Strong, but not the real deal.
You WILL care about Olga...
>>285697579a very sexy man
>>285697727Nuh uh. ORT, Jesus, and Buddha all solo her.
>>285698720Of course I care about the Director.
So the surprise was the new ending?
>>285697755FGO was meant to be a one-year quick dip in and out of the mobage game because TM picked it up as kind of an experimental thing, so they didn't plan out part 2 very well at all. They had to flesh her out in other properties but it ultimately didn't go super well.
>re-reading Tsukihime manga>publication:2004They actually made something amazing yet they didn't do much with it.It's one of the few Type-Moon stuffs that I never hesitate to recommend. Still, I wonder why I never feel the need to pick up the remake...Speaking of remakes, has Nasu write something new recently? Like a new series? I heard that FGO's LB6 is amazing but the fact that it's FGO kinda pushing me away...
>>285699289>has Nasu write something new recently?lol lmao
>>285699289>has Nasu write something new recently?erm...
>>285695686Because he really is just a brain dead retard in UBW, when I read VN for the forst tome I actually don't even feel that the same Gilgamesh from Fate just because how different he was. And his death in HF is pure comedy.
>>285695686Shirou was at the peak of his life. Gilgamesh was roleplaying a slav and at his lowest. It all makes sense.
>>285696687dirty red
>>285697755you mean sakura?
>>285699289>I heard that FGO's LB6 is amazingIt's incredibly overrated and is largely beloved because it was released before and after some absolute nadirs in content. That, and it had a ton of waifubait and references.
>>285696375Load mellon anime is half anime orginal (canon) and half two volumes. There are 4 novel volumes not animated from before and four after, and the full sequel series.Problem with the novels is that the first translator stopped and it was taken over by some chucklefuck who doesn't know Jap so he did it from jap to chinese to english. he has appearently learned more jap since then so later translations might be better but the first few volumes he did are definitely a shitty mess. maybe if he goes back to edit them they might be worth reading but i wouldn't reccomend reading them until he does that
>>285699762Touko will kill you.
>>285699289the LB6 is the best thing nasu has written in like 15 yearshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd54YjsFW3whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyl8XCXKM_ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKSkushBg44
>>285697755You realize Olga is, like, Nasu's favorite character at this point. He's been shoving her down everyone's throats for years at this point. In-fact he was so terrified of her getting the Sakura reception that he made her a complete dindu. There is not a single character he has shilled more in his career.
>>285700100Nasu says he created Olga because he didn't like that no one loved Sola Ui after Zero.>Nasu: Olgamarie was created as "the kind of ojousama that I really like".>Nasu She is also kind of like "The Revenge of Sola Ui". In F/Z, Sola met a very bad ending, so Olgamarie is what I came up when thinking what would be needed for that type of character to have a good ending.>Takeuchi: I think that kind of woman is doomed like to a bad ending.>Nasu: But Olgamarie is also like a less philosophical Touko.
>>285700100I think we're going to delve a bit deeper into her character in the current arc, but she was never evil in the first place. Even if she had been the final boss, it would have been more of a save her from her own insecurities thing. And revealing that Maris was just a reflection/part of her wouldn't be particularly surprising, given that's what most people seemed to be thinking when everyone wanted it to be a fake ending.
>>285697727>Gets jumped and her heart gets stolen by the Daybit cartel
>>285699382>I actually don't even feel that the same Gilgamesh from Fate just because how different he was.The guy didn't unequip his armor and use a O muh caliburn-tier attack on Fate Shirou because he was a little bit annoyed.UBW Gil would be too offended by Shirou antic to do something like this.
>>285700080What an extremely low bar.
>>285700119Hm,potentially would if they were turned into women
What's a historical/mythological figure that you could actually reasonably argue could be genderbent instead of them just being a woman or being from an alternate timeline where they are a woman?
<12 hours until Mr. Black. I wanna believe.
>fgonot canon. any more questions?
>>285700563Can Francesca be considered a tranny?
>>285700274Tiresias, HermaphroditusCaenis was already used
>>285700274None of them. Nasu ruined Fate the second he gave in to the marketing decision to make Saber a girl>every other random famous person in history was secretly a woman but the evil patriarchy hid it and took credit for their deedswe wuz kangz and shit
>>285700563Fate/GO being not canon is canon
>>285700274You mean like Caenis who change gender as part of their myth? Or like Uesugi Kenshin whose gender is too sus?
>>285700617Francesca would claim whichever would annoy the person they were talking to at the time the most.
>>285700860eyepatches are a character design cheatcode
>>285700885>definite good and evilShirou? evil.
>>285700988>Gilgamesh>goodlolI've heard people try to explain it before but it always cracks me up anyways.
>>285701018To me it feels like a mistake, Medusa is also in the chaotic good slot. Maybe it was meant to be chaotic neutral and someone messed the input up.
>>285701109I think it was done way before the whole story was wrapped up and Nasu didn't bothered. He probably wanted them to be that way.
Gilgamesh is the first hero ever, of course he is good.
Why do people say that Nanaya is stronger than Ryougi?And we ignore Void this time
>>285701018Gilgamesh is corrupted by grail. He is good in all later installments (besides Zero).
>>285700274da Vinci was a total fruit irl so it makes sense that he would choose to be a woman as a servant
>>285683068Apparently Medea was the fated bride for Achilles in Elysium. This seriously was a thing.
>>285701665wokeslop theory and very reddit of nasu to push it
>>285700563You're not canon
>>285691627Her?https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Britomart>A knight that appeared in the epic poem "The Faerie Queene", a friend of King Arthur during his training days, and a companion on his adventures. A master of the spear. An adventure unfolded before her as she set out to find her destined partner.>―――That is the story of this faerie knight's mother from which she inherited her name, the knightess Britomart. You can just consider this one to be the second-generation's 'Britomart'!>Long ago, Britomart the knight embarked on an adventure. Following a duel, she formed a friendship with a young knight named Arthur. She also battled giants and mages, and even rescued a damsel in distress. She eventually met her soulmate, Artegall, and after a great many adventures, finally married him. Soon after, she rejoined Arthur, and together they defeated the tyrant Grantorto on the order of Gloriana, the fairy queen.
>>285701627why do people say that Illya is the cutest girl in the series when it's clearly Mana Ryogi?
>>285701832>AM I KAWAII!! UGUUU~!!
>>285701109>>285700988>>285701248Nasuverse alignment is more based on what the character think themselves as.
>>285701832>>285701846Blushing Shiki is the cutest girl in the world.
>>285702010I will not watch your show, but I will fap to its porn.
>>285695867you just know
Gilgamesh will finally win a grail war.
>>285702188He's a jobber, he'll lose again
>>285702010Makima a shit
So there's a Shiki with MEoDP in KnK and also another Shiki with MEoDP in tsukihime? What's the connection?
>>285702188>has to go alter to have a chance
>>285702379Thanks to Nasu, the two were set in two different verse.
>>285702379Technically there's another Shiki with Mystic Eyes but his are Life Perception instead
>>285702230
>>285702395I don't understand this retcon at all. Surely he means it's a different timeline and not that the franchises are unrelated
>>285695706>there's people who don't remember Nasu's autistic purge of A++ rank NP's
nasu must've felt so smart with the kanji swap for SHIKI and shiki, also the female shiki. shiki my dick
>>285697069>>285697158One of them was a Mexican or Brazilian too
>>285695068>JetfagKek. do you guys remember Raicow's AUTHORITY?
>>285702457They're two different people in two different stories. You know how Stephen King always writes with an author protagonist? Same gist here. They both have MEoDP, both named Shiki, but the stories are completely different
How much longer until the lancer (the best class) shows up.
>>285702188He already won in Zero though
>>285697031>also had sex with francescaI doubt it was consensual
>>285697727My least favourite part of FGO
>>285697960He ruined Summer 9 AND OC3 in one go because of his Sakura obsession
>>285688046If we include the games there's lots of great stuff...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWH6U_mHhkQ
>>285703778Ruined? It was popular.
>>285678909Is Alcides serving Ishtar?
>>285704199>does Alcides serve gods?
>>285704239
>>285702379they also both have a Shiki and a SHIKImikiya looks like tsukihime shikiseo exists in both and has the same scene in the coffee shopnasu just re-used ideas because KnK didn't pan out at first
>>285704260>brown hair=plain>blonde=semen demonNo way...
>>285696698>mats from 2008 over updated matsThere is literally no changes to Arondight other than color.Berserker is stronger than Saber Lancelot stat-wise. But Saber isn't a mana hog nor he needs to seal anything to use Arondight.
>>285704260>>285704276It's the opposite for Ishtar/Eresh
>>285704277Berserker also cant use Overload
episode doko
>>285704393Delayed
>>2857043933 hours and 40 minutes
post more Francesca and Hyppolita, slop will do, my poor's man penis doesn't care
I still fond hilarious the guy famous for his invincibility has the most unreliable invulnerability ever but he is just as hard to kill as people with armor NPs because he is ultra fast and has a world shield
>>285704500
>>285704366Amazon queens makes for cute, tsundere girls!
>>285704563Let's be real, his bullshit shield is unavailable most of the time because he's such a gullible man who lends it to anyone who asks
>>285704563>>285704785My hero...!
>>285704785Sounds based
>>285704827and then you see her big sister who couldn't stop thinking about apologizing to Herc kek
>>285704827>>285704850Hippo's wish for the Grail is literally to meet Heracles again, kek
>Hercules robbed, fucked and killed the older sister>Achilles killed and fucked the middle sister>Theseus kidnapped and married the younger sisterAre they really just warriors and not elves? Their bloodline sounds just as pathetic.
>>285704827All Amazons were made for Big Greek Hero Cock.
>>285704827Girlie, all of that happened because you are weakSome warrior you are
>>285704870It’s a funny trope. The romans also continued on it with Aeneas dumping the queen of Carthage and kickstarting the rivalry
>>285704870Achilles never fucked Penth he just killed her. The whole necrophilia crap was made up millenia later like that other version where Penth somehow killed Achilles in their first battle.
>>285705022To be fair even in Fate Achilles still said Penth was beautiful just right before killing her
When is the EP
Herc's getting his theme today, right?>>2857050392h33m
>>285705096>theme>for a humiliation ritual
>>285705118>humiliation ritual>when it shows off that the mud alone isn't enough to corrupt him, much like Gil>when it shows that he needs to be mindbroken with all 3 CS in an extremely specific manner>when he could shrug off even the former two together if Buzz hadn't melted down 20k people for infinite mana for himselfNah, he's even more GOATED after that
>>285705155half of this is getting cutted
>Gilgamesh has a cruiser for some reasons.>Archer can project a fucking boat for some reasons.
>>285705155Brother, Herk was corrupted by the mud even in FSN.
>>285705320>project a non-swordHow is his mana reserves?
>>285705363He very explicitly wasn't
>>285705378Read the VN.
>>285705388You should take your own advice, because the VN explicitly mentions he's a putrid corpse who's stripped of his senses and still believes he's fighting Saber Alter for Ilya
>>285705399Post it.
>>285705422>He's still fighting his battle against Saber.>He is blind and insane, his life has ended twice over, and his body is rotting, but he's still fighting to protect Ilya.
>>285705444A VN screenshot, please.
>>285705568Now kill yourself retarded secondary
>>285705568nta
>>285705624>>285705631NTA but is there confirmation that God Hand was inactive by then? Cause I assumed the Nine Lives killed him over and over though some people claim that was a single death.Also before he fell to the Mud he tanked Excalibur Morgan right? I guess he died a few times over but if it was a full 12 kill he wouldn’t have been turned into this right?
>>285705034Yeah but calling someone beautiful (Fate) and regretting having killed her (post homerica) are very different from fucking Necrophilia.
>>285705649Lorewise God Hand shouldn't be active since Shirou can't project it above B. Then again, Shirou shouldn't be able to project Nine Lives at all, so it's just garbage writing - as is everything related to God Hand
Why was it called God Hand, anyway? Just for the Berserk reference?
>>285705798Who knows, it would make more sense for both NP's to swap the name with Nine Lives>God Hand - the NP that's the pinnacle of martial arts>Nine Lives - the NP that has stacks of revives
>>285704626kimochi warui...
>>285704586nice
>>285705812It's funny to think that if Nine Lives was called God Hand, Alcides would refuse to use it.
>>285705669I am disappointed there are no necrophilia doujin yet, you'd think Shindol would get on it like with Boudica
>>285705837Since he's converted it into a technique he'd probably also rename it into Mortal Hand or some shit
>>285705798The superior reference.
>>285704827>>285704870more like this, I need more hate sex
>>285705566My lust towards her is as mighty as heracles
>>285705800They say Hippolyta isn't a Saberface, but she does look like a Saberface.
>>285705624>>285705631I had read it over 10 years ago, had forgotten he was in that state
>>285705893>I need more hate sexI seriously wonder what would he have done if he was there when they trampled her to death.
>>285705800That's just pathetic hippo...
>>285705800They're really running with the one-sided narrative, even though it was a mutual crush
>>285705893There is a doujin with Maria Alter that's just hate sex
>>285702379>So there's a Shiki with MEoDP in KnK and also another Shiki with MEoDP in tsukihime? What's the connection?Shiki Ryougi - Daughter of the "Ryougi" Demon Hunter Family that specialized in creating magical, split personalities within their members. The goal of the Ryougi family was to create a split personality that could connect to the "Root", which is the endgoal of all mages, because of the omnipotent power it represents and offers. Instead, Shiki developed a male persona called SHIKI, which was a sadistic serial killer, loyal only to the female Shiki. Eventually the male SHIKI persona was destroyed, which left Shiki in a coma, when she awoke, the death of her male persona allowed her to awaken the Mystic Eyes of Death. The twist is the Ryougi family DID suceed in making a persona for Shiki that could reach the root. Their was a secret, THIRD Shiki persona called "Void". Void Shiki created the female Shiki persona that the story follows and then went into hibernation.Shiki Nanaya / Tohno - Son of the "Nanaya" Demon Hunting Family that specialized in ninja assassin techniques. After his family was massacred, he was adopted by half-demon (oni) aristocrats, the Tohno Family. In a twist of fate, Shiki was grievously injured protecting the youngest daughter of his foster family. Instead of dying, his pure eyes (magic eyes) evolved from his brush with death, allowing him to gain the Mystic Eyes of Death.SHIKI Tohno - The trueborn son of the Tohno family. He's utterly insane and a sadist. After ROA, a powerful Dead Apostle (Vampire), incarnates into his body, SHIKI awakens the Mystic Eyes of Life Perception, which are FAKE Mystic Eyes of Death. These eyes can see life and cut through people's lifeforce, but they can't inflict the concept of death.
>>285705975Headcanon
