Just finished Jujutsu Kaisen, and it really is just Naruto/Bleach - Zoomerfied.If you distill both of those series by taking away the parts that annoy zoomers so much like world building, character interactions, comedic bits and slow build-up between fights, you get JJK.Even the fights themselves are written in a way so that zoomers can easily understand whats happening, since their ADHD brains cant remember mechanics and skills explained in prior chapters/episodes.It's not a bad series, but it's obvious how shounens have changed to accomodate for the newer audience.
>>285693986Jujutsu did everything that Bleach and other earlier shonen didn't do. Good pacing, good payoff, great scale, and the author didn't puss out on killing certain characters. Could the storytelling be better? Absolutely, yes. But Jujutsu does mindless shonen better than most shonen in the last 20 years. Which is kind of depressing if you think about it. I agree that JJYK lacks characters as interesting as Naruto's.
>>285693986>naruto bleachDon't forget about other garbage shounen with contrived plots. DBZ, OP HxH KnY and more. It's all the same nothing burger garbage with no story and fights. Which is fine, but don't pretend that it's just a "zoomer" thing. You consumed shit that was equally as bad if not worse when you first started.
>>285693986If you enjoy jjk you’re either an asteroid or you’re being parasites by em
>>285694135Can you name an interesting character in JJYK?
>>285693986The only one who shouldn't be mentioned here is Bleach.No one cares about that series anymore and the latest anime flopped.
>>285694250No, I dropped it like 8 episodes in. Don't mistake me calling you a fucking faggot for liking trash like Naruto as calling something else good.
>>285694049>good payoff
>>285693986ZDS is a mental illness
>>285694049JJK has no iconic fights.
>>285694250Sasuke
>>285693986>If you distill both of those series by taking away the parts that annoy zoomers so much like world building, character interactions, comedic bits and slow build-up between fights, you get Dragon Ball. Which is clearly what Gege was going for instead of taking 5 chapters to say "Itachi was an inside job by Konoha to keep peace" and acting like it is good writing
>>285693986Despite having predecessors to follow, JJK ends up so much worse. The current anime season is terrible and only goes downhill.
Literally every shonen battle series is either:- Fist of the North Star- Dragon Ball- Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure- HunterxHunterremodelled to appeal to a new demographic and with things sanded down or smoothed out to be easier to write. Reminding you of a thing you read 10 years earlier is not a valid criticism when literally all of them do it.
>>285693986>Even the fights themselves are written in a way so that zoomers can easily understand what's happeningThere are people (some of them browse this very board) who didn't pick up that Sukuna's strategy during his fight with Gojo wasn't to have Mahoraga fully adapt to infinity so he could develop wcsBut still, I feel like JJK fights still have more technical depth than 90% of the fights in bleach or Naruto Part 2
>>285693986Happy for you, unc.
>>285696129(me)>Wasn't toI meant to put was too
>>285693986It doesn't matter uncle ben Hitman Reborn is better than all of them
>>285695499Sukuna vs MahoragaHakari vs KashimoGojo vs SukunaIm not even done catching up on the manga or anime but I know those fights are the most hyped up and memorable
>>285693986How come "Domain Expansion" never reached the same relevance as "Bankai"?Bankai is so iconic, even non Bleach watches know it and understand the hype and implication when someone goes Bankai for the first time. But Domain Expansion is as irrelevant as anime/manga culture goes
>>285693986My main problem with it is that Geto KWABs in the prequel despite being built up as the main antagonist. And instead you just get a host of evil villains who are evil because they want to be.
>>285696910Also Yuta is just super powerful for no reason, and I still don't understand why Toji and Maki are simultaneously underpowered and overpowered
>>285693986>comedic bits and slow build-up between fightsWhat? Those are actually some of JJK's worst problems, and I tend to like funny or slowburn shows.The thing is that its comedic bits are not funny and the build-up is just fucking boring and pointless.
>>285696862>iconicYet no one outside bleach even knows what bankai is
>>285696862Imagine having Bleach come back after 10 years to only to be outdone by a decade old adaptation.
>>285695499Nanami vs MahitoAnything with TodoComedy duo to death
>>285693986No its Modulo that is NarutoYuka specifically is Naruto
>>285696009Jojo parts 1-2 can be filed under fist of the north starHxH can be filed under jojo
>>285694106>contrived plots. >DBZSeek remedial studies help
>>285695499Every single Mahito fight was memorable, he really was a goldmine.
>>285693986Both Naruto and Bleach had more interesting worldbuilding and characters. But more importantly, they had a genuine sense of story (in early arcs, at least). In JJK you can feel that the author's only idea was to make some kind of shonen, but with a much faster pacing.
>>285696952>I still don't understand why Toji and Maki are simultaneously underpowered and overpoweredJust luck, same as Gojo. He happened to be born with Six Eyes and Limitless. Toji happened to be born with Heavenly Restriction, and Maki and Mai were supposed to be born with Heavenly Restriction if they hadn't been twins. Toji and Maki (after Mai dies) are overpowered because they were born with HR but underpowered because HR means they can't use curse energy.>>285702271>genuine sense of storyWhat do you mean? It seems like there is a story. Villains have been discussing their master plan since chapter 11, and everything they did in Shibuya was in service of that plan. Whether the plan ultimately makes sense or not is another matter and related to how most battle shonen have shit endings, but there is a story unfolding.
>>285696009AOT??
>>285702694> Toji and Maki (after Mai dies) are overpowered because they were born with HR but underpowered because HR means they can't use curse energyYes but it is arbitrary as fuck.Toji struggles fighting against sorcerers and have to get creative as a super human hitman to stand a chance against gojo and Geto….yet he easily curblestomp Dagon without breaking a sweat WHILE TRAPPED INTO HIS DOMAIN.Or how maki is so super strong that can tank a super gigantic barrage from the sky WHILE PARALIZED, yet 3,THREE, TRE Blackflashing Slaps from sukuna are enough to take her out from commission
>>285693986It's better than both.
>>285703289>Toji struggles fighting against sorcerers and have to get creative as a super human hitman to stand a chance against gojo and GetoYes, because those two characters are stronger than literally every other living sorcerer.Even then, that's mostly just an abundance of caution. He still rates his chances against gojo with RCT and CTR in a 1v1 (until he gets hit by a hollow purple)>yet he easily curblestomp Dagon without breaking a sweat WHILE TRAPPED INTO HIS DOMAINDagon is much weaker than either gojo or geto, and megumi is domain clashing with dagon the entire time that dagon fights toji.>Or how maki is so super strong that can tank a super gigantic barrage from the sky WHILE PARALIZED, yet 3,THREE, TRE Blackflashing Slaps from sukuna are enough to take her out from commissionWe've already seen multiple times how much stronger black flashes are than normal attacks, and how much stronger sukuna is than people like ranta. I don't know why you would think this is surprising or inconsistent
>>285696862Nigga I have never heard of Bankai nor have ever seen any one make a joke about bankai.
>>285696862What the fuck is a bankai?
>>285694049>Naruto>interesting charactersLMAO
>>285704548>three blackflashing slaps from sukuna>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A FUCKING STORM OF MAGICAL FISTS COMING DIRECTLY FROM THE SKY AND LEVELLING THE WHOLE AREA WHEN YOU ARE PARALIZEDIt is downright retarded, no matter how hard you cope with “hur dur sukuna fists stronger”, if just one blackflashing fist was enough for that sukuna would’ve just bitchslapped yuji and his friends instead of dicking around. Especially considering yuji got Blackflashed too by sukuna alongside a lot of other critical attacks like a full cleave on his body..So the sensible solutions are two. Or rewrite the whole fight with ranta and beard where Maki get helped by someone or doesn’t let her paralized and tanking a whole barrage directly from the sky, or instead rewrite her part against sukuna so she get hit and broken harder than just THREE BLACKFLASHING SLAPS ON HER ASS
>>285705606>>three blackflashing slaps from sukuna>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A FUCKING STORM OF MAGICAL FISTS COMING DIRECTLY FROM THE SKY AND LEVELLING THE WHOLE AREA WHEN YOU ARE PARALIZEDUh, yeah?>if just one blackflashing fist was enough for that sukuna would’ve just bitchslapped yuji and his friends instead of dicking around"no one can use a black flash at will"Read the story, you fucking dumbass
>>285693986>ZoomerfiedThis manga is some massive projection. Only boomers can gamble to begin with and Cogji gambles in the modulo sequel as you can see here. I'm very sure that gaygay is an insecure millennial faggot who looks for scapegoats like every other millennial mangaka.
>>285705945Yet he could land 3 on Maki.And 1 or 2 on Yuji, and without him being decommissioned from the whole fight (on the other hand, he landed 5 on him in sequence right after).Why are gege’s dick riders so retarded?!
>>285708165Anon, it's inconsistent.He could land them occasionally, but not reliably.That's why he sometimes landed them, but didn't plan his fight around the need to land them consistentlyYou're a fucking moron
>>285708200The fucking problem is that Sukuna’s normal black flashes somehow being stronger and doing more damage than this!Maki tanked all that shit ground zero and while also being fully paralyzed by ranta’s technique.If she was at least heavily wounded and damaged by this attack I wouldn’t complain about her losing against Three blackflashes.But she was literally unscarred and unscratched by it..not even her clothes were ripped apart!Yet sukuna can just take her out pf commision by just slapping her….It is retarded.It would’ve been better if maki actually got wounded by a cleave/dismantle instead of just being an easy farm for BF and than lost into un relevancy for the rest of the story
>>285705606Yuji never got black flashed by Sukuna.What are you talking about?
>>285708165Sukuna didnt land a single black flash in Yuji and for the record, a storm of fists isn't that big a deal, the majority won't even hit Maki since they are all spread out.
>>285708520Never, use the anime for scaling it is nin-canon. And think about it. Only the smallest percent of those even hit. The rest are all just spread out. Covering for and escape. There is nothing illogical in the being weaker then two black flashes and a domain expansion.
Why is JJK the only one to get these threads everyday?
>>285708620oh.. that is a lot of typos. Sorry for phone posting.
>>285696387>Sukuna vs Mahoragadestroyed by the anime>Hakari vs Kashimo>Gojo vs Sukunatbd (to be destrouyed)
>>285708520Yes retard sukuna's punches are more powerful than thatAre you literally so fucking retarded that you just think bigger=stronger?
>>285708566>>285708593>>285708566>never landed a blackflash on yujiPic related, the attack was from sukuna and not from yuji. Unless now even blocking causes Black flashes Somehow >>285708620even not taking the anime bullshit as granted, the attack was still a storm of giant fists directed from the sky to her , While paralized (in DnD terms, it is basically a critical failure by default, and she has no cursed energy to protect herself with).It is laughable that this attack dealt no damage to her but getting pimp slapped by sukuna permanently removed her from the fight.Either one of the two fight must be rewritten for it to make sense, or else one contradicts the other.Maki cannot be immune to a full power sky barrage while paralized but jobbing to just three well placed punches
>>285708829That is Yuji's black flash. It is a shoulder bash. It leads from the panel before it, see how Sukuna is going for a grab? Yuji dodges the grab by throwing his arm down, which leads directly into the shoulder bash.Also, how can it possibly be Sukuna's when his hand is nowhere near the impact. In fact it is blown back. Just look at the art.
>AHAHA I’M A STRONG SUPER WOMAN>YOUR PUNY AERIAL STRIKE WHILE I’M FULLY PARALYZED MEAMS JACKSHIT,MY BODY IS TOO STRONG FOR YOUR WEAK SUPER FINAL ATTACK*during shinjuku*>ARE T…THESE SUKUNA’S REGULAR PUNCHES INFUSED WITH A BLACK FLASH?!>AYEEEEEEEE SAVE ME ,YUTA-KUN!>P…PLEASE SUKUNA-SAMA! SPARE ME ,I’M JUST A FRAIL AND WEAK WOMAN AGAINST YOUR MIGHT PUNCH AYEEEEEEE!
>>285708656Most relevant shounen of current gen. What else is there?
>>285708829Maki never needed curse energy to defend with because of her HR and a DnD auto crit doesn't apply because that is a completely different system. I'm understanding that you mean since she can't block, she'd have to take the full damage. But an actual, exponential critical hit does exist in JJK's system. It is called black flash and it is stronger then, what? 3 energy fists at max. Actually given the size of the fists, it is more like just one hit.
>>285708829That is very obviousl yuji's attackHe takes sukuna's arm off ffs
>>285709027In the manga, black flashes are exponential increases and Sukuna is stronger than Jinichi. It makes a lot of sense when you think about it based on what happened in the manga.
>AYEEEE THIS IS SUKUNA’S BLACKFLASH I’M UP AGAINST!>TRULY DEADLIER AND MORE DANGEROUS THAN JICHIGI’S ULTIMATE SKY BARRAGE WHILE PARALIZED OR NAOYA 2 (FORMA DE VAGINA)>YUTA SAVE MEEEEEEE AYEEEEEEE!
>>285709176>grug, unga bunga>sukuna small>Jinichi big>why sukuna hit harder than Jinichi?
>>285709175It is still a regular empowered punch compared to an aerial strike.Yuji vs mahito makes sense since the latter was also weakened by the long fight and only had his external armor protecting him by that point.The benefit i can say is that sukuna’s black flashes should be just as strong as jinichi’s final attack but lacking the cost in energy required to land it. She cannot just sweap jinichi’s attack like it was nothing but getting sodomized by sukuna’s BF like if she got hit by the strongest attack ever written.
>>285709154The problem is how she resisted a full blow attack at ground zero without being wounded by it.If at least she killed Jinichi and Ranta but was heavily wounded or abused her haste physique to intercept Jinichi’s before the final strikes landed, i would have no problem with the three black flashes KO her later.But the problem is how she was completely unscattered by that attack yet sukuna can just sweep her like a rug
This is the sort of dumb fucker who thinks a house falling on a tank should do more damage than a tungsten penetrator
>>285694250Gojo
>>285694250Megumi
>>285694250YUJI
>>285709014This is the page after.Yuji is being sent back flying beyond the railing.>>285709168Both Sukuna's left arms were already gone by that point.
>>285709671>Both Sukuna's left arms were already gone by that point.Then what do you think he's punching with?
>>285694250Yuta
>>285693986>Just finished JujutsuMe too, it's just a bunch of dude throwing punch here and there totaly not like shaman, dark gathering is better shounen desu
>>285709671There are two reasons that is wrong. 1. The angle. The BF is landed parallel to the railing. But Yuji exits at a perpendicular angle. It can't be from a hit we see.2. If you think Sukuna hit Yuji so hard that he flew backwards, then on the page since Sukuna's fist is nowhere near the impact, we know time has moved forward, so Yuji would need to be flying back in that page, not standing still. 2a. Same thing with the panel before Yuji exits the railing. Notice how they are looking at eachother and Yuji has changed positions? Yuji is not flying backwards in this panel.Nah. Try to explain how it can be Sukuna's attack if his fist is what got blown back.
>>285708656New season
>>285693986>it really is just Naruto/Bleach - Zoomerfied.Welcome in 2019, anon
>>285694049Bait used to be believable...
>>285712994This is bait. That was true
