What's even the criteria for being "useful" in a battle shonen? The goalpost appears to constantly to move.
>>285713151Gege based jjk on a yaoi manga, that's why the women either seem like masculine lesbians or are completely useless. The problem with battle shonen is that they're written by people who aren't interested in creating quality but rather entertainment and fun, that's why they're usually poorly written. But that's not always the case; Melody from hxh is a good character, or Kagura from Gintama (if we even consider it a battle shonen)
Who cares about comic book power levels in anime? There should be an /aco/ for comic book anime
>>285713151I fucking hate Yuki. Stupid bitch.Retarded cunt tried to kill Kenjaku by compressing herself into a black hole. Do you have any idea how moronic that is? Assume for a moment it worked, Kenjaku was then killed by spaghettification due to the insane gravity well. Said black hole would then proceed to DESTROY THE ENTIRE PLANET and cause the extinction of all terrestrial life. Yuki tried to damn all of humanity because she couldn't beat one guy.I hate her so much.
>>285713287is Gege...GeyGey?
>>285713151>Have your own character arc>At least one solo fight >Character must influence the story in a significant way or move the story forward.
>>285713151The author is obviously secretly gay or a homo in denial.
>>285713825Nobara, Maki, Yuki and Mei Mei all do this. Mai might count but everything about her is related to Maki so maybe they share one.
>>285714715All of them but Maki fail at having their own character arcs.Nobara fails at having a solo fight Yuki actively delayed the plot more than anything, So did Maki.
>>285713825Technically...maybe? Nobara has some screen time and her "death" affects Yuji a few seconds but she is useless. >im a girl with short hair and i dont care about conventional beauty canons>dies>she didnt die, returns at the last chapter and does nothing. Thats because she is strong!!It doesnt matter she has an arc if she is that poorly written. Not even mikasa or sakura are that bad
>>285713151The criteria is that they'll find any reason to complain. Apparently every piece of media has to obey a checklist involving women beating villains or else they can't enjoy it. They even put a meme in Maki's because they didn't have anything and still needed to whine.
>>285713151I don't know, nobody on One Piece would be alive without Nami, the story wouldn't even exist without her, sure she became irrelevant after the timeskip but that's a lot.
>>285713151>barely usefulBitch never did a single useful thing. Her healing abilities were so weak and shitty that she might as well have just been doing regular first aid.
>>285713151>usefullIs there a particular reason why zoomers can't fucking spell simple words correctly?
Jujutsu kaisen is garbage
>>285713151>reads manga specifically for teenage boys>complains about female characters not being written well or not being as cool and or useful as male characters
>>285716182The written well part isn't even common for the male characters either, plenty of males could be called useless, some are outright meme jobbers.
>>285716182If it's for teenage boys, why aren't the women hotter?
>>285716215The sheer amount of male characters means there's enough good ones to make up for the bad ones. The same can't be said for the female ones
>>285716264True. What then?
>>285716251Teenage boys don't go to battle shonen for sexy females, they have other genres for that.
>>285716251Gege is embarrassed to draw hot women and he conciously chose to pander to fujos instead.
>>285716251Battle shonen is for toddlers and fujos. Both want ripped guys fighting for any reason
>>285716182Aria is shonen though. Gintama is a (battle) shonen with well written female characters
>>285716182There's enough Shounenslop with decently written female characters to understand that what GeGe/Oda/Kishimoto do is pure Hackery
>>285716339Fujos don't watch read battle shonen, there's barely any romance in it and zero gay romance
>>285717220what the fuck?
>>285717220>there's barely any romance in it and zero gay romancelike that would stop them lol, were you born yesterday?
>>285717517Shonen doesn't just lack romance, it's outright homophobic. There's no reason for fujos to go there when there's an entire genre made for them
>>285713151Having a Y chromosome helps.
>>285717545anon you're speaking out of your ass, and with no basis in reality, there doesn't need to be any implicit romance for fujos to latch onto a series. Saint seiya, ashita no joe, any sport series, and now delinquent series too, have had huge fujo fanbases and that's a fact
>>285713287no the problem (in regard to female characters) is that the target demographic is 13 year olds who still think girls are lame and icky. compare it to battle harem which follows basically the same conventions but for a postpubescent audience.
>>285717545Like half the romcoms that even get anime these days are shounen. The other half are LNs that are also for boys/men
>>285713151>normies still mad about mei mei>not for being a moneywhore>or having 0 morals>or anything of the sort>just because she fucked her little broi hate this cringe ass world...
>>285713287>Melody from hxh is a good characterNobody has read past the anime.
>>285718752Battle harems are nothing like battle shonen.
>>285713151Remember when retards where glazing and gassing up SHITbara as a great female shonen character?
JJK is a shitty "anime" for spics anyway, it's just Bleach but worse, made only for battle compilations on youtube.
>>285719249how is something like mato slave any different from your typical shonen slop other than how it handles female characters?
>>285720008A lot of the details it sets up early on get glossed over or forgotten
>>285713151Its a meaningless term coming from the isekai generation. Their minds are rotted and combat record is the only thing that matters to their smooth brains. They simply don't or can't use the word correctly.
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>>285713151Did they help move the story forward.Did they help the mc or a relevant character delop either as a character or by making him stronger.Did they help beat the big bad or atleast a bad.Did they do more than stand around calling the mc name or insult him.These may not be perfect but are a decent starting point, if you said yes to 2 or more of these questions when evaluating your character then they are not useless, if you answer no to 2 or more, then they are useless.
