>Author has a main girl and a side girl>Author in one single arc develops sidegirl massively while also making her have the best chemistry with the mc >Author realized his waifu, the main girl, now looks like shit in comparison>so then he proceeds to soft kill side girl for 10 years>even after said 10 years advantage main girl isnt still compelling enought to bury sidegirli feel like this shit keeps happening in other anime and manga but this is probably the most egregious one with the whole 10 years thing
>>285716526If he had any balls he would have faced the facts and changed his plans to match them instead of sticking to something he'd already fucked up beyond repair
>>285716526Rem lost
>>285716526The Author is a fucking hack.
>>285718801YesWe know That's what the thread is about
>>285716526I think it’s a combination of authors taking the main girl’s main girl status for granted, due to both their own personal affection for the character and knowing she’s going to win, and from being too careful with the main girl as a character, making her too bland and inoffensive so as not to alienate any readers, while side characters can have actually personality and thus end up being more likable.
does Emilia even have a character? I dropped Re:Zero after 12 episodes but I remember Emilia easily being the worst part.
>>285720663If you're writing the main girl to be inoffensive like some perfectly marketable waifu with all the edges shaved off, you're writing garbage and the fans you'll get are also garbage
>>285720702Imagine instead of an actual character it's a blank vaguely girl shaped sillouette labeled "Emelia: cute half elf. Kinda naive(?) Has healing powers. Add details in revision."It'd be functionally identical in almost every way.
>>285716526>also making her have the best chemistry with the mcWho are you talking about? Surely not Rem? She has no "chemistry" with Subaru at all.
>>285720986What do you mean when you say chemistry
>>285720986True, that's Ram
>>285720663This. Because most women get away with having no personality, the ones with "good" personality immediately stick out and grab attention. Especially in media where many are just onaholes, boss bitches, entitled princesses, or background dressing. Good = tolerable by men, so it include quirks and shit that wouldn't apply to men but is cute on women
>>285716526>Author in one single arc develops sidegirl massively while also making her have the best chemistry with the mc I think that’s the worst part. Subaru and Rem work with each other so well. They’ve got little in-jokes and nicknames, they can fucking talk to each other and get along. And not only does it feel natural, but you can actually see that relationship develop.This guy created a 10/10 couple by fucking accident, and then sidelined it as background motivation when it eclipsed his perfect elf waifu.>>285720702She was pretty good in the first arc, but Tappei said that was before he knew what he was going to do with her. Personally, I’d figure out what I’m going to do with the second-most important character in a story BEFORE I start writing it, but that’s just me.
>>285721167It really is just so fucking stupid They're not just believable together, they're GOOD together They push each other to be the best versions of themselves All of Subaru's most clear headed, wisest, and most heroic moments are because of Rem or because of character growth that happened because of Rem And Rem... Well it's a lot less pronounced but she grows tooIf I knew a pair like this IRL I would be genuinely angry with them if I saw them break up and I'd tell them they better know what they're doing because from my perspective they're throwing their lives away
Emilia and Subaru had chemistry in the first arc before Subaru's death. But she has ended up even more childlike as the series progressed and it's hard to make chemistry with a child
>>285721854Petra is doing fine tho
>>285721854>But she has ended up even more childlike as the series progressed and it's hard to make chemistry with a childAuthor is a borderline if not outright lolicon so this was inevitable. He has described his ideal woman as being like a child in an adults body
>>285716526
>>285724900Most bullshit line of the last quarter century at least
>>285716526Don't get why Rem is that popular anyway, her introduction with her killing Subaru just made her look like a giant bitch in my eyes.
>>285725386How do you say that without laughing
>>285724900Based, I would do the same and sound like him
>>285725386Always seemed weird to me that she goes from killing him to falling in love with him so fast.But she's an emotionally unstable oni so I guess it can make sense.
>>285721420You should know, in real life, best girl is never the one that gets picked.
>>285725386Not the only time she killed him for no reason
>>285716526>rem>not looking like shitHahaha
>>285725186>NOOOOO YOU DON'T GET IT HE'S SUPPOSED TO LOVE THE GIRL WHO TORTURED AND MURDERED HIMRemtards are insane.
>>285725386Side girl fags will scream up and down about main girl but be blind that their side hoe is just as bad
>>285720663I like this explanation
>>285725386Rem is cute so it is fine
>>285725815That makes no sense
>>285725386You'd want to kill him too if you were able to perceive his disgusting stench.
>>285726113Okay so first off, that makes her better Second, it's quite clearly established by their interactions that it's not a problem for him
>>285728628>that makes her betterFaggot simp.>that it's not a problem for himGiven that he doesn't want to fuck her it is a problem.
>>285728662I'm sorry to hear that you are unable to understand the appeal of a woman that's capable of great violence when she feels it's necessary
>>285725386Subaru walked it off so it's fine
>>285725386>her introduction with her killing SubaruThat wasn't her introduction retard.And she had a perfectly good reason to kill him. Just like Ram had a perfectly good reason to torture him.Don't go creeping around the bedroom of a royal candidate.Don't lie to the owner and stake out the mansion that a royal candidate is staying in with a knife you stole from there.Definitely don't do these things while stinking like a witch cultist, he is lucky they didn't just kill him the moment he got his unconscious ass dragged to the mansion to recover.
>>285716526Why do the Japanese make the side girl love the protagonist unconditionally and have more chemistry with him only to not end up with him, while they make the main girl like the protagonist only a little bit and end up with him?
>>285729851Main girls are for the mc.Side girls for the readers
>>285716639This, authors nowadays are hacks
>>285716526This, I dropped after Rem confessed love Subaru and got rejected. I couldn't bear it.
>>285730062Self-insert bros....
>>285730176That's fine, it peaked there. There's more good Rem stuff afterwards, but the show cut it.
>>285716526I call it 'Proxy Daughter Syndrome'
>>285724900The scene that ended the career of every contrarian backpedal shipper
>>285716526I thought the MC was into Beato based on Isekai Quartet s3.
>>285730309The LN keeps it from being a clean kill. More of a wound, really.
>>285725386Least retarded Shitmilia fag
>>285716526I'm still mad we don't get any scenes of her and Ram after the second arc. How do the stereo maid sisters interact after Rem's soul has been saved? How the hell do you not do anything with that?
>>285730336>Based on this comedy gag series that has little to no input from the original author.
>>285718801She didn't, Emilia lost, she's a retard with a dumb fanbase to boot.
>>285724900>>285725618Yea yea anon, back you go.
>>285728662>Given that he doesn't want to fuck her it is a problem.Hey speedreading cunt, he does want to, anyways, Emilia a shit, Satella a shit, Beatrice, Ram, Rem and Petra are 100% better.
>>285731241Emilia is the endgame
>>285731649lol, lmao even.
>>285716526One-sided glazing is not "chemistry" anon.
>>285731741But enough about Subaru and Emilia's chemistry.
>>285720663> making her too bland and inoffensivemost writers are simply incapable of writing good characters, that's why you get so many stories with "my girlfriend who is TROPE1 is actually pretty TROPE2" where there's absolutely zero character development. some of these lift off and then you get 50 twitter chapters of literally the same shit, packaged with different backgrounds
>>285731741>>285731751You're actually both right and when this issue was brought up the answer was "You're so right, when I glaze I should do it really hard and really mean it"I was really disappointed.
Really Petra and Subaru have the best chemistry. Not sure what that says about the author or Petra's chances of living this out.
he can pick a girl that can be both...
>>285733626Imagine the handjobs
>>285716526I just want to have sex with Rem
>>285716526>tappei keeps dragging out the story until he dies before completing it>new author takes over, RBD mishap somehow rewinds almost to the beginning>story continues, Rem wins, Amelia gets killed in an accidentit can be fixed. RBD is the ultimate hack.
>>285736594No, you can't fix a story by just disregarding what came before That's exactly why ReZero is bad in the first place, it tries retroactively fixing things that just weren't done well in the first place by just giving you more information that changes your perspective, and it feels extremely cheap and dishonest about itself because it doesn't actually make the story any good it just makes it slightly easier to rationalize
>>285730062She's obviously for the MC, there's no world where it's justified that they don't end up together
>>285725734Did you forget what chain of events led to that?>>285726113He's written in a way that makes it believable that he does
>>285733434It says this guy is enough of a hack to do this twice
>>285720663I worst example of this I have ever seen is from Go-Toubun. The series revolved around the whole mystery girl aspect, who is the girl that MC met when he was a kid. That mean that the promise girl development got sidelined because developing her mean reveal the mystery.
>>285722272I believe his own words were something to the effect of: "I'm not a lolicon, but loli Emilia is actually different story." The first part is obviously just deflection, though. Tappei is very clearly a lolicon. And unlike based Rifujin he simply doesn't have the balls to admit to wear it in his sleeve.
>>285728662>Given that he doesn't want to fuck her it is a problem.t. hasn't read the novels. Subaru is explicitly stated to love Rem as much as he loves Emilia. He wants to breed that oni.
>>285722272>He has described his ideal woman as being like a child in an adults bodyThat's funny because the exact opposite of that is a better character
I want Rem to kill me too
Imagine if Tappei went with the OG draft and we never got Emilia and her cringe fanbase, fuark....just thinking about the world we never got....the dream....we were so close to the golden land.
>>285738500The OG draft didn't have Emelia?
>>285737832>As much as he loves Emelia Honestly it's not particularly believable that he loves Emelia, it comes off as an unhealthy obsession that he doesn't really understand, possessive over an idea of her that he can't quite define and definitely doesn't reflect reality What is it about her that he's fallen in love with? I don't think there actually is anything
>>285725386She's cute + sweet. The killing thing is just flavour.
>>285740790It's not just flavor it's the spice that creates the masterpiece She wouldn't be even remotely as impactful if she didn't have what it takes to kill And when you look at the specifics it's completely justified and elevates her even further, she was 100% right to do it with what she did know at the time, and WHY she did it speaks to a certain strength that is only found in truly superior women that any sane man would die to have bear his children
>>285739431For the longest time I thought that was on purpose. Subaru's obsession with Emilia isn't actually love, it's just witch curse fuckery. It comes off as weird and unhealthy and unnatural because that's exactly what it is. And not only that, but his love for Rem is the real deal, that's why they're relationship feels so good in comparison. Doesn't that sound like the sort of tragedy this story would do? Subaru turned down and/or sidelined the love of his life in favor of a witch-induced obsession. At this point I think it's just shitty writing, though.
>>285744020Yeah that's genuinely where I thought the story was going for a while. Or, not that specifically, but something in that general range. I expected the endgame (or even mid game) would have him in a different faction from Emelia and even fighting against her at times as he struggled and grew increasingly mature and moved on from herBut then I saw the way things kept going, how he only ever grew as a character in ways that made him capable of pursuing Emelia, how everything that didn't involve pursuing her was framed in regret, how it was treated like some higher nobler purpose even when the reality of the situations and his own behavior told a different story It's not Subaru that's messed up here, it's the author
>>285731872If your main character isn't good, your series will never get off the ground.
>>285736594So just do what comic writers have been doing for decades
>>285744498And yet here we are
>>285744498You consider Subaru good?
>>285747033You just reminded me of this anime. I fucking hate that they built up this blue haired girl just to get rejected. It genuinely hurt, man. When I think back to all the animes I've watched, and which girl was my favorite, I'm not sure that I'd pick her but I always think about her even though I watched it well over a year ago.
Why watch harem/romcoms when the winner is clear from day 1
>>285747624It's not about the mystery of who's going to win
>>285747033Authors hate blue hair
>>285716526>>285748543Blue headphones and blue clothes also make her the blue girl in the group.
