>>285724678Herk fucked that.
They ruined Herc's scene. Shit adaptation.
Summoning scene looks overall alright
>In FSN Berserker protects his loli master as Gilgamesh targets her>In FSF GIlgamesh protects his loli master as Alcidies targets herThe moral is that Gilgamesh is better at protecting his master
>>285724955>let Kirei backstab Tokiomi in FZ>let Shinji become grail meat in FSN>let himself be killed in HF and Kirei had to fight on his own
Honestly everything makes sense up to the point where they decide to make her look like Ayaka, then it stops making senseAs told by Ayako Mitsuzuri, Little Red Riding Hood, only referred to as "*# XX" in the ghost story, was a three-year-old girl who moved into Semina Apartments with her parents a month before their family suicide. She was abused, wearing a red hood to hide the bruises on her face as instructed by her father, and unable to raise her arm above her shoulders due to him neglecting to care for a bone fracture. Her abused mother later killed her father, stabbed her, and then killed herself. It is said in the ghost story that she escaped from the scene and was never found, but the only confirmed fact is that a family suicide did take place.In truth, the "Little Red Riding Hood" is a Supreme Mystic Code created from the six pieces of a being believed to be a Fairy that was excavated from Spiritual Tomb of Albion and sold to the El-Melloi family who proceeded to modify the pieces into a trio of Magical Energy Reactors that produced an inexhaustible supply of Magical Energy. The current head of the El-Melloi family at the time considered reuniting all six parts but decided against doing so as while it would all six together would generate even more Magical Energy, it would also risk the Mystic Code becoming a complete being with a sense of self.
>>285725046By the time of the events of the Fourth Holy Grail War in November 1994, Kayneth El-Melloi Archibald chose to bring "her" with him to the Hyatt Hotel. "She" would promptly go missing from his possession following Kiritsugu Emiya's bombing and would later be discovered by a Magi couple who arrived at Fuyuki to loot the area while the Holy Grail War was ongoing. The couple would then decide to lay low after etabilishing a Magical Workshop in the Semina Apartments and spend the next seven years working to fully restore "her". The restored being took the form of a blonde child with pointed elf-like ears that would later be known as the "Little Red Riding Hood".In her current state, the Little Red Riding Hood was akin to that of a living Holy Grail due to circulating immense amounts of Magical Energy that was comparable to the Magical Energy stored within Fuyuki's own Leyline and was capable of limitlessly granting wishes but gradually influenced the minds of the couple into wanting to make a wish to her. As a result, the couple fought nonstop and regularly asked the "Little Red Riding Hood" for wishes and cyclically drove her away out of fear before then bringing her back out of addiction and abusing her with magical toolsDuring these periods that she was driven away by the couple, she took to wearing a red hood to hide her hair and ears and sometimes requested her neighbor to press the elevator button for her. By August 2003, the "Little Red Riding Hood" produced a weapon resembling that of an enchanted sword and the Magi couple ending up killing each other trying to fight over it which resulted in the infamous "family suicide". This would become the inspiration for the Semina Apartments ghost story
>Chaplin scene got cutOh my fucking god.
Chaplin erasure
>Illya wanted Berserker to rape Rin and Saber>1/3 bigger than Alcides
>>285724678I wish my bicep looked like that
does she ever stop seething
MS. FRANCESCA, I'M CIA>He wasn't arururone~
If we're counting Bad Endings, Berserker Heracles has a bunch of wins from killing Shirou, Rin, and Saber.
>>285725046Kayneth family comes into possession of pieces of a fairy that was lost in the tomb of AlbionThey can be used as an infinite energy generator or even a makeshift holy grailbut you can't allow all the pieces to come together or they'll become self aware and develop a personalityKayneth in his arrogance brings the six pieces to Fuyuki during the warLoses itMagus couple picks up the pieces, fuses them together, creates a fairy child out of itThey end up abusing the holy grail nature of the kid, until they end up killing themselvesFairy child is a small blond child with elf ears wearing a red hood to hide their inhuman featuresAyaka hypnotizes the elf child to seek out the next door neighbor for help if they ever need something in an emergency, for some retarded reasonin the "normal" worldline after the "parents" die, the elf child asks the next door neighbor for help, but the neighbor doesn't answer the door, fairy wanders off and is never seen againIn FSF worldline the neighbor answers the door, fairy child ends up absorbing the neighbor(neighbor was okay with it) since the fairy was breaking down without anyone maintaining their existence anymore. After fusing together they become a copy of "Ayaka", with the blond hair being the only remaining feature left of who the fairy originally was. Not entirely clear why they become AyakaThey then wandered around, until Filla removed most of their memories. Because the Einzeberns planned to use the horrible fairy child in the grail war.She wanders around in a haze with her memories a vague mess until Ishtar removes the seals on her memories right before dyingAnd she remembers she was always Little Red Riding HoodIts both stupidly complex and oddly simple in a wayLittle Red Riding hood was a ghost story from way back in AtaraxiaApparently a strange ghost like being that occasionally showed up in town
>>285725375>Both images divided between fake and real servants>Richard is the only one in both imagesI keep telling people
>>285725217Maybe if he gave her some dick.
>>285725454She hates AlcidiesShe hates him for trying to kill childShe hates him for not being heraclesShe doesn't like this version of him at all
>>285725217>every time a Greek got drunken he ended up raping or killing someone>he still did it
Atrum's Legacy Lives On!
>>285725321
I wasn't expecting Madara Uchiha as watcher.
>>285725488Yea just suck mud out him it's fine.
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>>285724678>year of our lord 2026>people still powerlevel the Grands as some the most powerful servant of that class>when it was stated that they are only selected from to time to slay BEAST, so they are only chosen for a specific job and not power fucking levels>Solomon for Goetia>KH for Tiamat>Orion and Romulus for VitchBeast>Tezcat for U Olga>Noah for Draco (in arcade)The reason it didn't work out for almost all of them was because everyone said ''fuck you Alaya, I do what i want''
>>285725518What's Buzzcola's issue?
Man the Prelati duo is so fucking hot
>>285725575stoic maxing
>>285725585Even Alcides let loose a little
>>285724678>Fate/Strange FakeI know japs can't into English, but can't they at least TRY not to make their titles retarded as fuck if they're going to use it?
>>285725606>Fate = fate series>Strange = a very strange grail war>Fake = a fake grail war, with fake servants
>>285725207>Ahab>Amelia Earhart>AsclepiusOh yeah this dude is definitely dying at the end of his character arc, 100%.
>Tametomo shoots his NP adapted to the situation boosted by an evil tower while Siegfried is forced to tank it without any techique or even Balmung with the narration going into a lengthy exposition that will be like taking a ballistic missle head-on>suffers some damage. Not even noteworthy as nobody bothers talking about it later. Siegfried goes on to fight dozens of servants in the warpath to fight Kriemhild and seemingly gets there at top shape.>Atalanta fires ONE (1) uno arrow by pulling her bowstring harder. Not even her NP.>AIEEEE WHAT WAS THAT SHE KNOCKED DOWN OUR INVINCIBLE SABER. Siegfried suffered zero damage from fighting fucking Achilles! Oh my God Gordes is shitting himself about to burn a CS here he wasn’t this scared even when Siegfried fought Karna A SINGLE ARROW FROM ATALANTA DID MORE DAMAGE THAN KARNA DID TO HIM AN ENTIRE NIGHT! Oh no it’s taking too long for him to heal they are gonna kill Fran in this time! CHIRON-SAMA SAAAAVE US WE NEED YOUR WISDOM GIFTED FROM THE GODS TO SOLVE THIS SITUATION AAAAAAAThe strongest Archer
>>285725633>all Holy Grail War is strange since they never actually follow the rules>and they also are fake since the grail doesn't actually grant a wish/miracle
>>285725217I mean imagine Emiya and Artoria getting summoned to a war and Artoria was forcibly altered, crazy idea right?
wait who is gilgamesh
>>285725092>Member fate prototype>Member kara no kyoukai>Member tsukihime>Member melty blood>Member fate stay night>Member fate hollow ataraxia>Member fate zero>Member fgo>Member mahoyo>Member fate extra>Member fate extella>Member Fate/Extra: Last Encore>Member fate kaleid liner>Member fate apocrypha>Member el melloi case files>Member fate samurai remnant>Member Fate/Type Redline>Member Canival Phatasm>Member Carnival Phantasm 2>Member Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya>Member Emiya-san Chi no Kyou no Gohan>Member Himuro no Tenchi Fate/school Life>Member All Around Type-Moon>Member Koha-Ace
I hope Jason dies from being too shit
>>285725694My king
>>285725669Gordes was just a retarded master, that's kinda all. Atlanta had no way of actually damage Siegfried significantly even if she could knock him over for a second, but his master stupidly panicked.The original plan to win the war in Apocrypha was basically what you saw in Traum. >In the initial plans of the Yggdmillennia team, Siegfried would go out to the front lines and receive the attacks of enemy Servants as Vlad III’s protector. Vlad would be positioned to control the battlefield with “Kaziklu Bey: Lord of Execution”. Jack the Ripper would kill the enemy Masters and cause chaos in the enemy’s rear guard along with Frankenstein. Astolfo would guide the golems and control the situation with Avicebron, while Chiron would act as support by shooting at areas where a hole in the enemy lines could be made.>It was truly a perfect formation as an academic theory, but they were forced to tearfully change tactics due to Siegfried unbelievably leaving the battlefield before the war actually began.Unfortunately they had to change plans because Gordes was just far too retarded and wasted their main resource.
>As a Servant, he is basically hard, solid and tough. “Armor of Fafnir: Blood Armor of the Evil Dragon” blocks all regular attacks up to B rank and all Noble Phantasm attacks up to B+ rank and, in addition, “Balmung: Phantasmal Greatsword, Felling of the Sky Demon” unleashes a wide-range attack that displays its true worth against an army. The blue jewel encased in the hilt of the sword contains prana from the Age of Gods, and it is possible to pull out the sword’s power to the maximum with just small quantity of it. Also Armor of Fafnir blocks NPs up to B+ rank
>>285725857it's just godhand but shitter
>>285725899It isn't, I know you want to spin that narrative a lot, but it isn't.
>>285725907except it is
>>285725584>Man the Prelati duo is so fucking hotThey are in lore, the child of the Greek version of Loki. This explains the personality.
Evil
>>285726034cringe
>Armor of fafnir>removes four ranks from every attack>Can sometimes double so it removes eight ranks from each attack, so he's quite literally invincible at times>A rank attack becomes E rank>Top tier attacks barely scratch him>Godhand>Doesn't negate attacks, he only gains resistance >It used to negate attacks below A rank but Nasu retconned that after UBW anime, so it can't actually negate anymore>So the same NP and same attack can now keep killing him over and over>One NP can also take multiple lives>Kavacha and Kundala>Reduces all attacks by 90%>It can't reduce things like poison >He cannot use his attack Noble Phantasms without permanently removing Kundala, he's stuck using basic attacks>Andreias Amarantos>Just gives Achilles invincible skin>can by bypassed by divinity>Can be bypassed by divine constructs>Can be bypassed by "acts of friendship">Can be bypassed if struck on the heel>but otherwise it can't by bypassed>Aegis>Rank A>Despite being the most famous and strongest shield in greek mythology it literally doesn't do anything because Sakurai is a hack>Fortress Angela>Always active armor that gives someone the same defense as a walking fortress
>>285725899God Hand gets you dead by anythign A or above. Armor of Fafnir means you need to hit really high to just scratch. There is no comparison.Because God Hand can't reduce damage, Hercules dies over and over in nearly every fight. The moment someone pulls a beam it might as well not exist.
>>285726126LOLLMAO
>>285725375>FAK>FAT
Man, Siegfried is unbeatable!Wait! I know just the thing! Hey, Siegfried, please kill yourself.Okay, sumanai
>>285726126Sumanai would have also died to such an attack, because while an E rank attack works like a knife scratch to him, a D rank would have worked like a stab from a sword.
>child soldier can wish to become anything>doesn't wish to become GUNDAMi don't understand
>>285726061
i won
>>285726169He didn't. And more often than not he tanked to the chest attacks of that magnitude.Hell even with AoF malfunctioning because Kriemhild was also wielding Balmung (anti-dragon) and hit twice as hard as him and landing double the hits on him he didn't drop dead on the spot.
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It's so funny to see people call Francois Prelati's first incarnation
>>285724678I want her to pin me down and ride me until I pass out.
>>285726339wat
>>285726125Karna can still use Brahmastra with the armor on but it has the vague curse of never hitting anyone stronger than him. That said Vasavi is also meta cursed to never work anyways.
i can't take any indian servant seriously ever again
>>285726225>No teethDamn,that's rough
>>285725653He's got a bunch of people that died on the way to become heroes teaching him to be a hero. The best thing he can do is abandon this shit and marry incarnated Zealot.
>>285725417Will Ayaka (Fairy) have a happy ending?
>>285726429that's stupidwhy is this show fucking stupid?
>>285726432she ded
>>285726386Feels like Vasavi Shakti retooled like God Hand. The first entry was something more like ''so powerful it kills a god, and therefore anything below'', he can only use once and costs the armor. Eventually it became ''powerful and gets bonus damage to godly things'', though at the caveat he gets to use multiple times and rather than armor loss it's a DEF debuff.
>>285726445I mean Blondyaka
>>285726125Also Roland's diamond skin skill gives him the same invincibility as Achilles Divinity doesn't bypass itBut he's vulnerable on the underside of his feet
>>285725653Dying like every Heroic Servant ever who basically got to become chad ascendant then die prematurely (minus a few) thereby establishing a legend?
>>285726465It was always defense down because they couldn't really represent it ingame any other way
>>285726499Hey not saying it's a good or bad thing, just extraordinarily clear what Narita is doing with those servant choices. Given he's got the Solid Snake rapid cell degeneration at like age 40 thing it's probably better for him, Wednesday is not surviving either anyway.
>>285726536Narita never kills characters
True Caster's summoning in the manga
this but unironicallyhttps://youtu.be/tj3WVNho3jk
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>>285726579Is this Chad Warden for zoomers?
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>>285726678>>285726707retard
>>285726590I'm not sure if I'm not clicking on the pictures or if I' having problems with 4chan
>>285726717I'm phoneposting on my way back homeCut me some slack>>285726718
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>>285725670This one is stranger and faker
fake/strange fate
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>>285726816>you're brains
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>>285726834Yes, FSF's mangs translation is not the best>>285726846
>>285726834>>285726862hes a faggot esl mtl using piece of trash reddit attention whore
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>80% of the cast is still alive in volume 9Watch them leave the story unfinished just so they can end it in a FGO collab
>>285726936
who the FUCK needs a 5 lb box of twizzlers
>>285726952But enough about Requiem
>>285726952i think francesca will bail at the end, which linesb huop with fgo anhywayd
>>285725518Needs party hard edit.
>>285726973anon, did you just have a stroke
>>285726989on
>>285726968bro no one even know what the fuck requiem is
>>285726998off
>>285726964When you're immortal you would gobble up all the unhealthy slop too
>>285726964More importantly, who the fuck is eating APPLE flavored twizzlers?
>>285726416it means you can throatfuck without abandon
are all the masters of the true war except ayaka propped up by feds?
>>285726952are you suggesting they can't do an FGO collab if almost everyone is dead?what the fuck is even the point of it being a multiverse at that point?
>>285727127true rider's was until el melon's class stole the cs from her
Waiting for the Herc x Hyppolita sex flashbacks
>>285726964This is the smallest size they sell in wallmart
>>285725857Doesn't Karna's armor block all attacks up to a-rank?
>>285726964garbage candy
How much of the LN has been translated? My nip reading skills arent advanced enough to understand Narita
Waiting for the Richard Ayaka sex mana transfer scenes
>>285725857This defensive NP is the most useless against EX rank NPs since EX is supposed to be unmeasurable
>>285727445No, Karma's armor just reduces damage 90%So even great NPs barely do damage There are things that can still bypass it however like gae bolg
>>285727643Effectively still A rank most of the time Ea is said to be just slightly stronger than an A++ NP for exampleThere is no rank up from AEX rank just means undefinable But most of the damage still gets negated
Is Sion still dead after the reset reset or not? They have to do a Templar Priory of Sion event with her
>>285727650Nope. 10% of a strong NP will floor servants tougher than Karna. Saber Alter was beaten by a Bellephoron at 10% of its strength.
Trying to read through volume 9; if you aren't used to Narita's writing style you'll probably go insane reading his novels. Every three pages it switches to an entirely different character. If you only care about certain characters or want to see certain stories play out, you're going to be waiting awhile before it rotates back around to them. The story constantly spins around between characters constantly leaving you hanging on all of themUp to the point where Bazzdlot is summoning red mud zeus lightning fighting Richard or some shit
>>285727671>Ea is said to be just slightly stronger than an A++ NP for exampleThis is never said anywhere. In fact, the mere existence of A+++, which would be double A++, suggests otherwise.>EX rank just means undefinable Specifically incomparable by means of being too powerful.
>>285727932Nah, he could tank NPs even at 100% power easily, he's just that strong. In CCC his spirit core was smashed and he still hung around until the end of the war like it wasn't an issue.Being reduced to 10% is even more of a reduction than Armor of Fafnir. Every attack gets reduced to scratch damage
>>285724678>draw an erza>call it a fate
>Ayaka hypnotized some random guy with a basic command>But this person never interacted with anyone else since they're a huge NEET that self isolates>he had no idea why he couldn't get Ayaka's command out of his mind>So he decides it must be love, that's the only reason he couldn't forget it>So he started obsessing about her>Pictures of Ayaka in their bedroom>Ayaka's command was just to look after the little girl next door in case anything happened>Little girl was a fairy>Ended up telling the fairy to eat him since he's a hopeless person anyway, don't feel bad about it, they'd be dead either way>Fairy and NEET fuse together, when they look in the mirror they look like Ayaka>NEET decided to "become" Ayaka>That's the only reason they looks like Ayaka>Fairy having gained human morals after eating him, falls into despair and guilt over having killed this person by eating them, even though they told them to do itI understand absolutely everything else about the character, but the Ayaka part is what makes it strange
>>285726954The manga is a pretty good adaptation. If only the TL wasn't fucked.
>>285727960except for the fact that cu alter's gb took him down in one hit, as did excalibur galatine.>In CCC his spirit core was smashed and he still hung around until the end of the war like it wasn't an issue.no, it specifically was an issue, because he could no longer fight at all for the rest of the war. he was effectively and admittedly defeated.>Being reduced to 10% is even more of a reduction than Armor of Fafnir. Every attack gets reduced to scratch damageHowever, unlike AoF, which switches up on NPs, Karna's armour remains a fixed 90% reduction. That means it stops mattering once attacks get too strong.
>>285724678How do I cryogenically freeze myself so I can watch the entire thing when it's done?
>The Downhill Attack of Hiyodorigoe was the name of it, right?>Rider remembered the tactics of one of the many horsemen she learned about in the past few days.>Even after becoming a Heroic Spirit, she hungered for improvement as a horseback warrior>and tried to turn the knowledge granted by Holy Grail into further strength by incorporating>tactics and horse-riding techniques from all lands and eras.>The Downhill Attack of Hiyodorigoe was a tactic of a heroic warrior named Minamoto no Yoshitsune.>A Japanese story about one time when he made two horses descend from a cliff, and with one>horse confirming that he could make it down unscathed, he struck a horseback surprise attack.>Although she took major issue with how that had one horse sprain its leg on the test, Rider had>daring smile, remembering the anecdotes about the fearless fighter who charged ahead descending>the perilous cliff before Yoshitsune did, and the mighty warrior who descended on his own legs>carrying his steed because he considered the horse more important than himself.>Ah, I wish I had the chance to have an earnest contest of martial prowess against the toughest>fighters of foreign lands...I'm reminded of in Atlantis singularity when Achilles before he died said he wanted to be as tough as the mighty Benkei who withstood a thousand arrows.
>>285725217>Her wish for the Grail is literally meeting Herc again>He's there but it's a version of him that's an antithesis to HercI'd be seething too
As bad as Herc shafting is, at least he is not Fateverse Fionn mac Cumhaill
did CR release the actual episode this time, or is it still the old vers?
>>285725092anime team doesn’t give a fuck about some famous comedian
Hehehehehe, his name is cum.
>>285728307magna cum these laudes
>>285727671>Effectively still A rank most of the timeAbsolutely not. The ranks matter, Armor of Fafnir won't be able to negate EX properly because it can't measure the numerical value of it, so it will take the full damage. Just like how B++ is higher than A+ conditionally, but B++ won't do any damage to God Hand, while A+ will
>>285727086It’s not even green apple-flavoredEwwwww
Those bronze birds were listed among the Twelve Labors.Her mother told her they were originally an army of companion airships to her father, the wargod Ares.Compared to how she saw them a few days before, they were growing more noticeably aliketheir original forms.Now it makes sense. I did imagine that it was impossible to steal another’s Noble Phantasm withoutany risk or cost...A Noble Phantasm that steals a Noble Phantasm that can be considered the opponent’s verySaint Graph.Having to fuse parts of his Noble Phantasms and Saint Graphs must be less of a cost for this outrageand more of a necessary step in order to crudely staple something together to his Saint Graph. My guessis that if he were to relinquish this mighty hurricane that is the power of Gugalanna, the power of thefused parts wouldn’t return to him.However, her speculated circumstances alone would not be enough to steal another’s NoblePhantasm.What enabled it was the strength that the legendary hero’s Saint Graph still had even afterdiscarding the power of the gods, and an immense magical energy supply from his Master.The hurricane cloud was gaining the auras of beasts other than Gugalanna.The numerous mystic beasts that fought the greatest hero during his lifetime mixed together,filling the air with a stench similar to the primordial chaos.“Your hatred from the gods is such that you plan to transform into the monster who defeatedthe thearch Zeus... Typhon, the Progenitor Dragon?”, Rider screamed, dashing through this air.I get that she's trying to say Reincarnation Pandora has some drawbacks but also I don't get it at all.
>>285725573>people still powerlevel the Grands as some the most powerful servant of that classBro, characters in-universe specifically used the Grand class container to powerwank Qin, Galahad, and ORT as exemplars of their class. Give up this cope, Grand is just a powerlevel beatstick like Super Saiyan 4. It's fucking over.
>>285728354you're confusing "potential to be grand" and "actually having a grand graph". the original baitpost was about the top of the class. we now know that there are multiple candidates and grands for the class.
>>285726968He said leave the story UNFINISHED, not NEVER start the story at all.>>285726125>Just blows you up from miles away>Gives self Avalon-tier defences merely by Ultimate One statusThe STRONGEST.
I'm not following what the plan with the Fake war is. The US held a fake HGW to lure in masters to use as catalysts for a real one? What does that mean? And how is it fake if they really did summon most of a full set of servants with it?
>>285728344It's funny how he's trying to wank Karna using ranks. Apocrypha is one of the works that treats ranks most seriously. Astolpho has MR at A-rank. Semiramis blew him away and beat him with one blast of EX-ranked magic.
I cant imagine the police losing they are playing super defensive and dumas's powers heavily favor a defensive playstyle.
>>285728351He takes a chunk off of an opponents Saint Graph - a NP, but he also has to stitch it somewhere, so he stitches it onto a chunk of his own Saint Graph - another NP. So he probably took Jack's From Hell and overwrote one of the Labours with it
>>285724678herc's summoning was DOGSHITwhat the fuck are they doing?
>>285728406>Astolpho has MR at A-rank. Semiramis blew him away and beat him with one blast of EX-ranked magic.Only when he remembers the name of his NP, which he often forgets. Rider's greatest weakness is he often forgets his abilities, I think one day a month he can remember things properly.And even then he was unharmedIt just knocked him back down to earth a bit
What I gathered from episode is, that Aoko sisters would solo all this noobs.
Oh god there's so many characters.And they're not conveniently gathered into two factions a la Apocrypha, they're all off doing their own things. Jesus christ. There's no way this is just going to be 13 episodes, right? Right?
>>285728464since the LN /manga isnt done either we will never know :^)
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>>285728447There are only a few defenses against her bullshit anyway.
>>285728464no shit it's not. this will need 2 or 3 coursmaybe 2 cours and a movie if they wanna rush the whole way>>285728299they didn't fuck up this time and they fixed the problem with episode 4
Thia almost blew up the earth, nuked the polar ice caps entirely, and fought equally with EnkiduCut to one volume later and Waver's class is very easily beating up Thia while talking down to him, as Rin says he's acting arrogant just because he was able to match lancer that he thinks he can match her. Then she hits him with a gandr. And some other guy uses wheel magic on him, and another student uses butterfly magic on him.I dunno this still just feels kinda gay
>>285728528You now understand why I despise el melloi clas wank
big
whats the deal with the black mist
>>285728351RP can internally change Alcides because he has to merge with the stolen NP, and he’s intentionally trying to become Typhon thanks to half the labours involving its kids.I suppose that’s both a pro and con compared to something like Knight of Owner that just slap on new property
>>285728528Thia's Grand Magecraft, for all its raw power, is still basically just Flat's magecraft scaled up. It's not unthinkable that people familiar with Flat's magecraft could devise countermeasures. But all that being said, you're still right that it's gay
>El-Melloi Classroom
>>285728587Pale rider doing stuff.
>>285728405From what I understand they (Prelati and the US government) began the ritual for the false grail war, but made it so it can't summon a Saber. A grail war based on the Fuyuki system needs 7 servants, and Snowfield was a city built specifically on leylines so this incongruity causes the leylines to get hyperagitated and ends up layering a true grail war on top of the false one from all the excess mana trying to fill in a hole that can't be filled.
>>285728587Pale Rider 'bout to do some shit. I have no idea how it's going to make people not disappear. Killing things into the dream seems to be all it does.
>>285728527thanks
>>285728464Durarararararararara was two cour, so I'm confident we're getting that minimum.
>>285728351>Now it makes sense. I did imagine that it was impossible to steal another’s Noble Phantasm without any risk or cost...LMAO think again you idiot.
>>285728633So basically they tricked the leylines into going "oh shit guys you forgot your Saber let me summon your Saber", thus booting up GrailWar.exe and starting the whole thing for real.
>>285727949It was literally stated in the VN
>>285728633I don't get it. Like, I get it, but it doesn't make sense to me. The leylines are trying to pump mana into the fake HGW to summon a saber, and that excess mana formed an entire actual HGW? Just...on it's own? How, why? And how did they just do a fake HGW without the Fuyuki shit? Don't you need the Greater Grail for that?
>>285728636He could end the war in a single day if his master was evil, but she isn't> Far from a "hero", it cannot even be called a Villainous Spirit or Demonic Spirit. Some regions have called it a "curse", and some religions have denoted it to be "divine punishment." It is "disease", that which has existed since time immemorial and that which will continue to exist far into the future. It has lived a shorter life than anyone, and yet has lived a longer life than anyone. Called a horseman who has brought calamity to all, it is that which "let loose" the Black Death that killed thirty million people and came "under the name" of Spanish Influenza that killed fifty million people.
>>285728707lookfateslop, fate side material, isn't exactly the best written
I don't understand anything thats going on
>>285728436You're making excuses, and in doing so proving that you didn't read or remember the novels. Astolfo's MR was passive and present in that scene. They literally mention it.>Rider of Black had the continuously‐active type Noble Phantasm, Luna Break Manual: Universal Magic Guide—though the name was just temporary—and as such was granted A rank Magic Resistance. In practice, this effectively meant that he couldn’t be harmed by modern magi. That’s why he chose to attack like this. If he didn’t have that book, even he would falter over conducting a direct assault.>It just knocked him back down to earth a bitNo, it defeated him outright. Specifically, he was "thoroughly violated">his entire body was struck by EX rank blasts of prana, and as if unsatisfied with just that, the blasts ransacked the inside of his body and relentlessly and thoroughly violated himLater on when he appears again>Despite his own substantial wounds, Rider didn’t even consider running awaySo no, don't play this game. It was such a pathetic performance that even Semiramis was shocked at how weak he was. EX >>> A
>>285728729Dumas is about to win. That's all you need to know.
So now there's a "real" holy grail war going on at the same time as the "fake" American grail war. With two wars going on simultaneously, shouldn't the Throne of Heroes or the "world" see this as a problem and deploy a Ruler to beat everyone's ass?
>>285728694Cite it then.
currently reading morii's old doujinearly 2000s were quite something for TM
lol
>>285728707Some American mages were around during the Fuyuki grail war in this timeline and somehow managed to swipe a bunch of the busted Greater Grail from everyone else. Prelati gets these pieces, tapes them to the active leylines of Snowfield, and we get a real janky grail war going. But it's also like getting a busted car going, once it starts it usually stabilizes. At least that what the narrative wants you to believe, I think.
>>285728738They rigged it so a ruler wont come.
>>285728756the golden agebefore the slop
>>285728764Fran thought that a ruler would be summoned eventually but it would be too late
Ruler George Washington will stop this.
>>285728528I rolled my eyes at that entire scene. Waver's class can get to be as arrogant as they want because they have all the plot armor in the world. Actively making every scene they're in worse.
>>285728764>>285728781>implying a Ruler hadn’t already been summonedI fucking bet a ruler was responsible for sane Herc ghost still sticking around Alcides
>>285728731>>285728436>>285728406EX rank effects doesn't work in the standard way, so standard methods can't even interact with it properly, since mechanics of their effects are completely different in principle.The interaction of standard to EX, It is like trying to power a computer by setting it on fire, or trying to weigh a person by tossing coconuts
>>285728464Watcher reveal must've scattered brains lmao. >All these characters then they revealed 1 character who was 7 characters, and none of them namedKEK.
>>285728759She's Italian so no
>>285728720I guess if it can just kill whatever it wants, maybe it could make it so nothing can die too? >>285728781I would follow this a lot better if it was all Fran's elaborate plan to fuck the absolute shit out of Jeanne.
>>285728799They're annoying because they know they're invincible, because the story wouldn't dare let any of them get damaged. Like they actively talk down to everyone and see a rampaging goddess destroyed half the world and Rin smirks and goes "Heh, we deal with this every day", its annoying
>the Holy Grail War went from some strange esoteric ritual into a cardinal mechanic of the fucking universe
>>285728812Wrong. EX specifically works by means of dealing more damage than A. That is the original playbook they follow. You're parroting a narrative that came after 2015. Prior EX is explicitly linear to A-rank to a stupid degree that it is incomparable.
>>285728816It exists as every plague, every disease, every sickness. It has no physical form but within the first day it already enveloped the entire town and could control every human in the town effortlessly. Anyone that tries to leave town ends up right back.
>>285728761Oooh, right, I forgot about that. Alright, I can kinda get it now. >>285728819See, that's the part that confuses me. I don't think it's that, I think they're just doing the ritual in a really janky way, but sometimes it does sounds like it's built into the fabric of reality or something. And that'd be stupid.
>>285728819Are you telling me you wouldn't summon the holy grail if it were as easy as it is in the fate universe?
>>285728834Hey now, don't tell me TOO much.
>>285728731Read the novelEX just means it can't be ranked naturallyLike Richard's EX rank Speed which caps out at A+ rank in reality, there is no rank up from A.
>>285728838>I don't think it's thatIt is that now actually.>>285728842The world be fucking over a dozen times over if it were that goddamn easy.holy shitdoes anyone think for two fucking seconds?
>>285728850Stop reading it then
>>285728852>Read the novelDid. That's where my information comes from.>Like RichardCan you read?>You're parroting a narrative that came after 2015.
>>285728859>It is that now actually.>The world be fucking over a dozen times over if it were that goddamn easy.I'm getting mixed messages here.
>>285728852>EX just means it can't be ranked naturallyCite where Apocrypha said this.
>>285728881Anon, look above. We are casually talking about how half the fucking world has been destroyed.
>>285728740Look at its status screen in the VN. Its potential is even dependent on the Servant stats, and requires outside support to power it up further.It was directly compared to Excalibur as "equal or superior" in output (And this was long before Excalibur's true power have to be unsealed to see it's full potential)
>>285728868Don't spoil animeonlies when you're directly replying to them. Don't be a faggot.
>>285728889Uh no. How about you actually read the VN. You're comparing Ea to Excalibur, not EX NPs to A++ NPs. Ea vs Excalibur shows Excalibur getting blown the fuck away and Saber getting crushed to an inch of her life in the aftermath while Gil laughs his ass off. This was without intent to kill. Their later fight has it explicitly said that Ea was far more powerful than Excalibur. EX Nps like Ea and Dendera are stronger than Excalibur+Stella combined.
>>285728888What?
>>285728826No, it was stated early on that EX Rank is powerful to the extent that comparisons are completely meaningless, meaning it is not even playing the same game as other ranks
>>285728900Shit is only cringe>Newfag asks X>Some retard gives them a whole volume of information to flexBro, why? Just give them what they asked for.
>>285728528>>285728915read it and weap at what a fucking travesty this entire franchise has become
>>285728925>is powerful to the extent that comparisons meaninglessSo it's so much stronger than comparisons are meaningless. Thanks for proving my point I guess?>playing the same gameNah, it plays so high-level that it wouldn't even be a game, not that it's performing different mechanics.
>>285728888Its not actually a big deal, its just some ice caps and a few major cities in one timeline. The entire point of this war was always "How big and stupid can a grail war get, especially if no one cares about keeping magic a secret anymore". The grail war is almost a hypothetical question of what would happen if shit just got fucked up
>>285728928Motherfucker, unless that has anything to do with the HGW supposedly becoming "a cardinal mechanic of the fucking universe," I don't give a shit.
>>285728948this is a really stupid fucking idea
>>285728948It is a big deal, but specifically because Strange Fake is an abnormality even compared to other grail wars. A lot of the creatures in SF arent able to be summoned normally
>>285728910How about you actual read the fucking status screen you fucking Secondary. It even states what rank or damage level is needed to survive against it in a clash
>>285728956holy fucking retardlook up what grand servants are and never curse us with your cum-drooling faggotry again, nitwit
ayacute...
>>285728976>how about you read my made up hackneyed bullshit instead of the story where you can actually see these NPs clash and how events play out!Lmfao. Pure brainrot.
>>285724678>vol 9Alcides is getting so pathetic that I can't even believe it's possible...
Holy shit Richard is so fucking strong.
>>285728984Nah, that's probably irrelevant too.
>>285728943Except every instance of EX rank abilities and NP are explicitly show and described to have nonstandard behaviorAnd not all of them are foolproof, considering Jeanne's EX magic resistance avoids magic effects, but doesnt nullify effects, and thus doesn't prevent collateral damage
I want more of these two
>>285729007Grand Servants are summoned by theWorlditself throughRitual: Heroic Spirit Summonto save humanity.[1]Its purpose is to pit seven Grand Servants against one powerful enemy, rather than fight each other likeServantsin theHoly Grail Warritual, which was adapted by humans for their own purposes.[1]In other words, their duty is to face a threat endangering all of humanity or the world, the Beasts.
>>285728925>>285729016The comparison is here about prana blasts. These are attacks of raw energy and nothing else. If it is EX, it is EX because it's much stronger than A. You people really need a wakeup call because it's easy to tell who was in this fandom first and who came after a certain point. EX used to be a HUGE deal>Ea>Avalon>Amita Amitabha>Angra Mainyu/CCC>CCCThese were your original EX-raked powers and abilities. They were THE VIP-exclusive ticket to being a top-tier power. Now EX gets handed to any mong for any reason.
>5 threadsDamn
>>285728997>Heracles is so cool that even dying doesn't get rid of him and instead he stays around as a spirit to aura-farm against Alcides and make him seethe like an impotent manletkek
I don't know what's going on or who all these cunts areWhy can't we just get ONE normal grail war, for ONCE
>>285728740>Its maximum damage is 4,000. But, with the support of the Noble Phantasms in his treasury, the damage increases even further. It has equal or superior output to Saber's Excalibur, and it is a sword that "cut apart the world".
>>285729016>Except every instance of EX rank abilities and NP are explicitly show and described to have nonstandard behaviorFor being too strong, early on. You love to leave the word 'powerful' out of your descriptions, huh?> Jeanne's EX magic resistanceOnly because that is what she chooses to do. Luminose Eternelle converts magic resistance into a shield that can easily block A+ NPs.
>>285729046>I purposefully read a story called "Fate/STANGE" where the entire premise is being the strangest most fucked up grail war to ever happen, as spelled out from episode 1>I am incredibly angry that it is not in fact normal
>>285729046because they're retardedthat was a legitimate plot point in the original seriesthr HGW is a grand lie and ritual to uncover the third true magicif any of the servants knew, they'd probably opt outbut even more retarded was nasu okaying a bunch of side-stories repeating the same goddamn admitted retarded premise again
>>285729046That's extremely unlikely, because the grail """"""war""""" was literally designed from the start to be a SCAM
>>285729059shut your bitch ass up, shit-cum guzzling mindless npc
>>285729024Ah. I dunno, that sounds different. Less like the HGW is built into the world itself, which would be dumb, and more like the world can summon servants to defend itself and the Fuyuki trio devised a ritual that partially utilizes that system for their own ends.
>>285728464Apocrypha having the Red Team all be zombified (except for Necromancer Dad) really helped limit the insane character bloatthis one is just hosed. too many masters, too many factions, this Grail War is totally fucked and JEANNU should've been deployed to put a stop to it but I guess somehow the Throne of Heroes couldn't dispatch a Ruler (Jeannu being too busy riding the BIG & THICK DRAGON DICK to be bothered)
>>285729058>Gilgamesh's sword of separation roars to exterminate its enemy for sure this time. The swirl of air and the magical energy within it far exceed Excalibur.
>>285729078oh my fucking god
>>285729063Given that every single grail war has been fucked up in one way or another, what would actually be strange is if we had a normal one
>>285729078in shortthe mechanics of the hgw are fundamental aspects of the world itself
>>285729067comments like these are the gayest comments possible
>>285729046>fucks up your grail war forever
>>285729097>when you've been so subverted the only real subversion would be not subvert
>>285729101Zelretch designed the grail war ritual off the grand servant summoning ritual, where in times of crisis the world summons heroic spirits to defend itself. Zelretch saw that and said "I bet humans could also make use of this ritual"
Which servants in this war could beat a dragon?
>>285729117Yes exactly
>>285729084 Apocrypha also killed off a bunch of characters relatively early on, which helped it's case. But Apocrypha also revolved around Sieg, which helped it's case a lot less. I'm still enjoying it, but it's pretty overwhelming, and we'll see how it wraps up. The show, at least.
>>285729102quit projecting your faggot homo lust on the internet bottom bitch>>285729118what a fucking moronwhat could possibly go wrong????ughnasu is such a fucking hack
I long for the days when berserkers were actually berserkers and couldn't speak
How much longer until True Berserker shows up?
>>285729097>Given that...(blah blah)I know you're going to make every single excuse in the world here to say "I'm still right, this should have just been a straight forward war with nothing strange happening, I'm still right"But honestly you're retarded, like you're actually retarded, the entire premise of this story was a strange war, a fake strange war, the strangest war to ever happen, a war so strange that since episode 1 Zelretch shows up watching the war carefully saying "Damn this shit looks like a mess, I'll watch how crazy it gets".The entire point was how much of mess a grail war can be, you are picking the one story where its about being above and beyond and being as wild as possible, and you are stamping your foot on the ground angry its not "A normal war" when it was literally created to be the opposite of that.If you want a normal war read Prototype or something, no one gives a shit about that retard shit.People read fate/STRANGE because its meant to be a crazy war
>midichlorians are genius actually
>>285729142>>285729155Yeah okay you're making it too obvious you're just shitposting with extremely out of date shitposting points now.
>>285729024So does it work like>Grand: ban a single poster>Counter: ban the whole thread>Ruler: just ban off topic posts
>>285729155Better than>magic is just something everyone can learn but just doesnt for some reason
>>285729162why'd you quote me?
>>285729101No, not really, just the servants. The Earth summoning servants to defend itself isn't the same thing as seven masters summoning seven servants to fight over the Holy Grail and to turn it into a wish-granting machine and/or open a path to the Root.
>>285729038>checked the wiki>it's actually truefor almost 10 years. Wow.
>>285729178Do you fags eveb read what you post?
>>285729059They're strong because they don't follow the standard behavior, because just piling on ranks have serious diminishing returns. EX rank follows a different paradigm thus have more potential scaling.Basically standard rank increase is like comparing Space Marines to Custodes. While the Custdoes is definitely stronger in every way. The insane investment is incredibly inefficient for just another meat bag that still does the same type of physical stuff with better equipment Whereas if you factor in pysker scaling to the warriors, like the Emperor. Their sphere of influence and effective range expand MASSIVELY, bypassing even obstacles
>>285729187FGO brought in a big problem with ranks. They just got thrown in without any sense to them. Interludes got so silly with ranks that there was a massive overhaul to downgrade NPs. You're genuinely better off with A nowadays than EX because EX means absolutely nothing.
So if Richard fights for more than 5 minutes does he just win? He will just blitz everyone.
>>285729205lollmao
>>285725092We are in Himuten timeline and that is Heaven's Feel based so Sakura won here.
>>285725092I don't even want to know how much this is cutting.
Can Richard's Excalibur beat the pale rider?
>>285729235Shinji is still alive in School Life timeline btwRaped Sakura and got away with it.
>>285729088The status screen already stated 'equal or superior' but can improve its damage output with gate support and that it can randomly have additional damageAlso Anon, the VN goes into hyperbole all the time and immediately contradict it.Like in Fate/Hollow Ataraxia, it stated that Saber can't avoid Archer's unavoidable Broken Phantasm as a LAW, and yet immediately stated that by conquering that law makes her the Heroic Spirit of the knight
>>285729153Probably next episode but it could be the following one.
>>285729194>They're strong becauseNo. they don't follow standard behavior because they're strong. Stop mixing your facts when you quoted the post already.>EX is in a league of its own, representing powerful to the extent of rendering comparisons meaninglessThey drew a fucking picture for you idiots. It's EX because it broke the SAME scale. EX was worth, at minimum, double what A was worth.
>>285729154It's a shit premise that's just an excuse for more asspulls (in a series that already has more than enough asspulls) and people talking cryptically about shit. There's no point in trying to speculate about anything when anything could happen for any reason whatsoever
>>285729293this anon gets it
>>285729183Damn itwhy is that dog so lucky…
Is picrel going to be in the next episode going by the pacing? Hope they don't rush this reveal.
>>285728528Waver's whole class is full of highly ranked mages, this isn't surprising at all>>285729024Grands are for countering beasts
>>285727671>Ea is said to be just slightly stronger than an A++ NP for exampleThis is only in accordance with them as noble phantasms. It has nothing to do with the level of power of the wielder which varies.
>>285729281The status screen says equal or superior, independent of using the NP. All NPs have a ceiling. The fact that Ea far surpasses Excalibur with or without treasures doesn't change the fact that Ea surpassed it. In fact, because of Excalibur's seals, Excalibur can't get any stronger at A++, so even if Saber has a grail, it remains the same. But Ea's ceiling as an EX-NP is way higher. You've merely danced around the point.
Richards speed is EX btw.
>>285724678Have the Fate villains always been shit? Kirei is hard carried by Jouji Nakata, take that sexy voice away and he's just an unremarkable sadist. Goetia is whatever and Marisbury is a giga autist. Francesca is Eua. Name a single good Fate villain, I dare you.
>>285725683Isn't that what happens in Heaven's Feel?
>>285729290The attributes is a catch all category for stats for things that function similarly. The way EX rank behaves is just close to be placed in the same category.Even within the standard measures the Servants stats is generalized. For example Nasu stated that Medusa have the highest movement speed in the Grail War despite having the same rank agility as Cu (who is noted for his incredibly attack speed)The agility stat is even more vague considering that F/HA directly stated that Bazett can run faster than Avenger, ... when he have rank A agility
>>285729366HF is too much of a shitty to explore anything in that route. From Shirou giving up his ideals, Sakura being more evil than Angra ever could, Illya, why a corrupted saber would do what she does, and Kireiit was such a fucking mess
>>285729194I used to think this way but you're wrong. EX follows the same behavior as other parameter rankings. CCC invented a rank that actually functions in a different paradigm to separate from EX, tacitly admitting that EX played by the same rules as E-A.>Sakura :: I’ve never seen it before either. Security levels should be the same as Servant stat-measurements. The strongest security level is A, the weakest is E, and there’s EX as an exception, but…There is no star category. Wait a moment. I’ll analyze the image data from Miss Kishinami. If we have this sight data, even from here we should be able to scan…No way. Impossible to measure…? It’s not that it exceeds the limits of the counter, but it just can’t be numerically represented…!? That’s impossible! A new variety of fortification, not found in any of the Moon Cell’s libraries…!Star-class was different because they could not measure it numerically. Thus, by transitive logic, EX must be measurable numerically. EX exceeds the counter.
>>285729387Stop your headcanon. Just read the picturesYou said that EX-rank didn't play the same game.Nasu ranked it as playing the same game and described it as breaking the scale, with no limitations. If EX functioned differently mechanically, it wouldn't be ON the fucking scale. He'd have just placed a separate scale for it.>For example Nasu stated that Medusa have the highest movement speed in the Grail War despite having the same rank agility as Cu (who is noted for his incredibly attack speed)This is irrelevant. This is a matter of what the ranks represent and quantify. We are discussing the quality of the rank itself.
>>285729349You aren't accounting for the fact that Nasu stated that the + modifier is feature that let's the Servant temporarily multiplies the power of the rank. Each + is a whole number multiplierWe don't even know if the plus is an indication of unsealed Excalibur or not
I hope to see this next episode, hopefully it wont be cut.
Fucking retards talking over each other>EX is slightly stronger than A++This can be true. Key word, CAN BE TRUE. All EX is, is much stronger tha A at base. An A++ can theoretically be as strong as EX, but A++ will always have a cap that it can never exceed. An EX noble phantasm can go anywhere from 1000 - infinity because there is no cap.
powerscaling really is for retarded homeboys on twitter
>>285729451NTA but Unsealed Excalibur belongs to Logress. That one's A+++. So, at the very least, there is a change in rank.
>>285724678I wish I had a girl like that
>>285728033Ayaka was a guy?
>>285729436He does puts attributes into a catchall categories, he didn't create a new scale because the EX rank qualifies for behaving similarily enough to the definitionBasically the semantics of whether electrons actually """travel""" in a wire
>>285729453made for rape
>>285729354Still mogged by Achilles and in turn Zeno's turtle
>>285729058>>285729088Comparing Excalibur to Ea based on materials profiles is fundamentally wrong. When they are compared, it is about their rank and power as noble phantasms. That means without considering who is using the noble phantasms. Just their original powerset. Ea is stronger when Gilgamesh uses weapons. It is also stronger depending on mana fed to it. It was also stronger when he was alive. Excalibur is sealed under multiple bounded fields. This was a fact even in FSN. IMO, it is their max natural power that is being compared. Otherwise it doesn't really make much sense. Ea in the hands of super gilgamesh or a god with more mana would be way different for example.
best girls btw.
>>285729418>>285729418EX rank already have measurable scaling considering it explicitly stated how Ea scales with stats in the Status menu
Reminder that EA couldn't kill Sefar while unsealed Excalibur could so unsealed Excalibur>>>>>>>full power EA
>>285729169Neurodivergent? Gil?
>>285729572>Saiba got mogged by Nero, a girl that is not even from Fate and GARcherBased
>>285729562 (me)Sorry, i might not have been cflear, but I'm saying that if you want to compare an EX stat to an A++ stat, you'd be better off comparing weapons or things that *don't* fluctuate massively. Excalibur and Ea are terrible ones. In fact, because most NP also have classifications (anti-fortress > anti army for example) of raw power, comparing NPs is a terrible idea in general.
>>285729577Right. This dude actually posted it already >>285729058Silly argument at this point.
>>2857295801) Ea chooses its wielder2) Sefar absorbs techniques with intelligence. You need to hit with unga bunga. Ea has plenty of logic behind its attack so bad matchup.3) Excalibur gets modifiers to threats to humanity. It would never be as strong against 90% of TM because the planet would not give it backup. Comparatively, Ea only cares about the mana its wielder provides. No other restrictions.
>>285729280He still almost got his cranium sliced instead of actually get it sliced so he isn't getting anything anymore
>>285729453Still better than that bitch Serenity
>>285729046FGO Fuyuki War is as normal as it could possibly be.
>>285729084Be happy that Narita didn't decide to throw Ruler Astraea in who then would be possessing Luvia's body like Laeticia or Filia.
>>285729503No, Ayaka was a fairy that fused with another girl (hinted to be a girl) and the desire was to become Ayaka so they became a copy of Ayaka but blonde.
>>285729599Anon...
>>285729362
>>285729084If Narita had any sense, he would've made Gilgamesh ruler in the actual story. Gilgamesh adds nothing here beyond being a recognizable face, not even his friendship with Enkidu is properly fleshed out. Being a Ruler would've been more novel than just "Archer Gilgamesh but nicer" and since it's Gilgamesh it would've given a reason for why the war keeps going despite the crazy shit happening
>>285728464Welcome to fate/Durarara
Is there a difference in Power between a Fake and a True Servant?
What are the chances that Abzu or Marduk are Gilfaces?
>>285728528This is cringe as fuck, so no one will die except the original characters
>>285729833My wife! The most beautiful
>>285728814I have no fucking idea what Watcher's deal is, and I have no fucking idea if the show's ever going to explain it.
>>285729867Not at all. It has nothing to do with power but chain summoning. servants were summoned in response to each other so you might see destined connections (fate) in who appears
>>285729878but what would happen if a Fake Holy Grail and a True Holy Grail would kiss and holding hands?
>Excalibur vs EaSoacebattle autists already settled this debate a couple of days ago:https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/fate-excalibur-excelsus-vs-ea.1284572/
>>285729885They would make a baby Holy Grail
>>285729885Alaya would get very mad
>>285729909pure sex
>>285729906Does Alaya give Archer PTO time? (excluding FGO)
>>285729906rin could always jump on my raging meat stick
>>285729768God I wish.
>>285729046fate/zero is pretty normal
>>285729950Case Files Luvia is the worst Luvia
>>285729960But the Grail there is corrupted.
>>285729975ok you're just being retarded
>>285729868Nasu already confirmed all the Mesopotamia Gods have blond hair so….
https://r34i.paheal-cdn.net/bb/84/bb84e2a5b69c5b1747ec4efa8e138e1b
>>285729975ok let me get this straight you're thinking that the Grail in Fate/Zero is corrupted? BUT WHY?
>>285729735Yeah and it needed world-level fuckery that messed up the entire timeline to achieve this fairly normal Grail War.
>>2857298680 because we are never gonna see other mesopotamian gods
>>285729975Yes, but it's not a factor until the very end. Otherwise the war functions the way it's supposedly supposed to.
Is the ost during Prelati duo's scene already out?
>>285729035>tfw they would have had sex many times if it was 20 years ago
>>285729890>That said, Sefar is immune to intellect which Ea is. Excalibur isn't.>the sword forged from the hope and intelligence of mankind in fact is just some giga unga bungakek
>>285729735Bro, the FGO Fuyuki War turned the whole FGO timeline noncanon because Marisbury made his fanfic to summon Solomon real. And the resulting money that he got from the grail went into the inhumane Mashu experiments that made Lev angry enough to incinerate the whole timeline.The only normal grail is the Apoc one iirc.
>>285730066thus retconning fgo from existence
>>285730007Only the apoc timeline grail isn't corrupted.
>>285730073>jeanne abandons the throne to fuck the author's donutsteel in fairyland
>>285730064Excalibur was made by the planet, not humans. And they modeled it after Mars/Ares' sword. So retard caveman power is what they wanted.
Sigma male
>>285730047glad someone else liked that track.best one in the show so far.sadly, not out yet.>>285730007what do you mean he's thinking. it literally is. didn't you watch it?
>>285730066>dude summons Servant>Servant uses his noble phantasm and beats everyone else>dude gets the Holy Grail which actually works and makes his wish to get 7 gorillion shekels come true>his Servant also gets his wish to become a normal humanIt is as normal as it could possibly be anon
>>285730007The grail in the main timeline is courrupted hence the mud and all of HA.You have a certain family of inbred german homunculi to thank for that.
>>285730130what was HA again? Sometimes i think the Grail is a fucking evil fat Bastard that watches on his TV how Humans are killing eachother and laughing about it
>>285730072Haha yeah bro just don't watch the upcoming battle between Alcides and a big divine beast haha
>>285730130conceptually, it was because of Siegfried's cursed gold that it got as bad as it did
Is it just or is Richard to strong? He is clearly going to win.
>>285730218Nah, it's clear Waver's super wanked class is winning
So long as Tsubaki is happy, I don't care who wins.
>>285729966She lacks the ojousama energy of other Luvias, but I love all Luvias, so she's good in my book.
>>285730246>spineless little girl who couldn't go against her dipshit parents>happylol
>>285730270Her new Sigma male daddy is a much better guy.
>>285730130So basically every Grail War ends up being a complete mess because, on the one hand, hardly anyone understands or follows the rules properly, and on the other hand, the Grail is so messed up that it ends up being destroyed anyway?
>>285730280The grail war is intended to be a stacked deck in favor of the 3 families, which is why the 3 knight classes are typically the strongest.The fact of the matter is that Mages are retarded and think they're geniuses
>>285730292The families wanted to obtain Akasha through the Grail, which was introduced as an abbreviation ritual, but it all went wrong, didn't it?
>>285730306yeah they did the math wrong and thought 3 servants were all that's necessary.
>removed the scene of Alcides calling Gil strongwtf I thought this anime was made by gilfags?
>>285725179In that one doujin Illya tells berserker to get down in size a bit before raping Rin
>>285730280In the end it all boils down to nasuverse magi being a huge collective of autistic retards. That's how the grail got corrupted in the first place.Of course, there are alternative timelines where didn't get angry manjew'd during the third war like in Apo.
Isn't it also the Makiri's fault that the Grail Wars turned out the way they did, because they were ultimately really retarded?
>>285730313and then they went nah we will summon 7 servants and kill eachother because "it's magic im not gonna explain shit"
>read last thread>people blaming Nasu for Caesar being a fatassDo they not know who ruined the Romans in Fate?
>>285729833>>285729875imagine the sex
Why Prelati has mouth in her tummy?
>>285730345Not really, the Grail was fine until the Einzbern summoned Manjew and contaminated it. Zouken made the Command Seals which work just fine.
>>285730351They need seven servants to die for the Grail to have the mana to grant whatever wish they have and no one wants to share so killing each other is the best option.
was this scene really necessary
Finallyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZrWr3XbAZ8
Was this necessary
>They cut Charlie Chaplin>They are going to cut Faldeus' reaction to Sigma summoning Charlie ChaplinSOULLESS!
>>285730457>>285730474so in the End the Einzbern are the reason everything went apeshit?
>>285730607Yeah it's their fault the HGW went from ritual that they couldn't get to work right to a world ending disaster
>>285730552>>285730498For sure
>>285730525Man, I miss DurararaNo one in FSF ever managed to recapture the magic of Shizu-chan and Izaya-kun
>>285730580They will probably still have him report his identity as Charlie Chaplin to Faldeus because that's critical to his character motivations.
>>285730652>AI NPCs think their opinion actually matter
>>285730292>The grail war is intended to be a stacked deck in favor of the 3 families, which is why the 3 knight classes are typically the strongest.This is fanon and has never been true.The 7 classes were made by the world. They were never meant to be contested against each other. The world was not thinking about "grail wars" when it made its guardians.
>>285729833>gigaslutShe's fun, but not exactly a great villain. Now BB is awesome.
How many heroic spirit would be affected by this command?Or is Herc the only one making excuses?
>>285730607>>285730635I forgive them since they make great sex dolls.
>>285730714So how is Bazdilot still Herc's Master after spending all three CSs? Does he have more?
>>285730714What does even 'make excuses' mean?
Wait do i get it right that the "Fake" Holy Grail in this Grail War isnt corrupted by Angra Mainuy so this War could not end in a complete Disaster?
>>285730714Plenty of heroes make excuses for the way they lived. I can tell you Cu would be brought to his knees by that.
>>285730728You're still a Master even if you run out of CSThe Servant is still connected to you for mana
>>285730740It's a succinct way of saying look directly at your own regrets.
>>285730747But another mage can steal your CS and become the new Master of your Servant, how does that work?
Yumesisters won so hard
>>285730715what a great sex Doll
>Hippo looked behind to check if Herc is vibing then she started vibing tooThat is pure love here
>>285730765When that happens, the other mage also cuts off the mana link between the servant and original MasterIf the Master just uses all CS by themselves then they are still the Master of that Servant because the mana link still exists
>>285730765The command spell has an overriding factor, basically administrator privileges. By taking them you get to butt in on the contract. If there's no command spells to take, well, that's no longer an option.
>>285730742>the "Fake" Holy Grail in this Grail War isnt corrupted by Angra Mainuytrue>so this War could not end in a complete Disaster?false.the only possible outcomes are 'it ends in disaster' or 'it cancels itself out'the only way to get a net benefit is to use time magick to metagame a net benefit like in F/GO where it cancels itself out but you still gain new allies you can reliably summon for future conflicts to cancel them out in ways you couldn't if you didn't have access to those summons
>>285730740In Herc's context I suppose it means "Doing the labours don't erase your sins/Hera setting you up". Bazz followed it up by using the 2nd CS to make him go on a flashback trip.
>>285730742No, this grail is 100% drowned in mud. It was constructed with stolen fragments of the hella corrupted Third War grail.
>>285730800but i would like a mudbath with Francesca
>>285730765If you mean Medea then what she did was to cut the contract between Shirou and Saber, then gaming the system to acquire the command spells for herself to become Saber's new Master.Noted that what Medea did was very difficult and not something any mages could just replicate. Kinda like how Kuzuki didn't have command spells despite being her Master.
>>285730823Jester also thinks he can do it, in the novel he says he's going to eat Orlando's hand and steal his servant.But he's a vampire and we all know vampires are cheaters.
Late to this rank discussion but I think you guys forget gimmicks are taken into account with EX rank. Some of those are strong by pure above the scale firepower, but others because of some modifier like Anti-X. IIRC Edison explained his stats were E-EX because all-around they were E, but when it was specifically involving his inventions they were ultra high. Rather than some EX-rank because all his stats are powerful it’s more that his stats are E+[powers X] or something.I’m peetty sure there are cases non-Ea EX NPs clashed with lowers ranks to draw, most likely because without their huge bonus modifier the firepower is actually within the scale
>>285730823Isn't Medea a genius mage from the age of gods? That would put her above most magi, thus makes sense why no others could replicate that feat.
>>285730778I went to check Kirei's explanation in F/SN. It sounds like that spending all your CSs means you aren't a Master anymore. Although in the bad end that follows, Shirou is left with one CS which he uses to sever his contract with Saber. Idk anymore.
>>285730791>Angra Mainuythis been in any of the anime yet? i've watched every one and the only reason why i know of him is reading a fan wiki. from an anime only perspective is there any reason to know why every grail fails/corrupts
>>285730853read fate/ hollow ataraxia
>>285730853It was explained in the HF movies.
say my name
>>285730873>readshan't>>285730875>HF moviesthanks
>>285730911Angry man jew
Fate/Prototype Fragments anime eventually...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1QxjbZ0E5U
>>285724678I've never found this woman hot until this momentMy fucking DICK
Would you like to see the Third Holy Grail War animated?
>>285730931you're a big fat phony
>>285730715Philia > Rinshar
>>285730954>procure a catalyst of your cousin and have him mindbroken for shits and giggleswhat is wrong with this woman
>>285730975>TWO (2) Saber Servants>weakass Avenger who turned the Grail into the biggest shitshow everwhy not
>>285730714It's been stated that stacking 3 CSes for 1 order grants absolute obedience for that order.
>>285730975Yes because dwarf Hassan deserves time in the limelightBut only if they get a cool writer and not any of the FGOslop regulars (including washed up Nasu)
>>285730714Every heroic spirit would be affected by a command tailored specifically for them
I bet his finishing move will be using whatever spear he gets as an arrow for his bow
>>285730941>I heard that you're strong, Alcides
I think the funniest thing about Herk is that he's willing to let his Master waste 1 CS to order him to kill himself once and then move on like nothing ever happened.Dude's loyal.
>>285730975>Edelfelt sisters with twin Sabers>Tohsaka seducing one of the sisters and turning her against her family>midget Hassan who's Master is related to Faldeus>Einzbern summoning Manjew and losing instantly>Nazis barging in the war trying to steal the GrailHonestly yeah sounds fun
>>285724878
>>285728814>none of them namedWell, but at least they are not hard guesses
>>285731054>>Tohsaka seducing one of the sisters and turning her against her familyWhat a whore.
>>285731054>Nazis trying to steal the grailI thought this was Apo only?
Feels like this whole series goal is to wank characters from other works. Last time we had priest gushing over Ciel, yesterday we had one of main bad guys admiting how Dirty Red overpowers her.What will it be next time? Gil admiting how Excalibur is stronger then his EA?
>>285731074Would Narita have the balls to get Ruler Karl to show up in the final volume to put an end to the mistake that is Snowfield HGW?
We all know what she did, right?
>>285730941I like this murder hobo
Seiba!
>>285731087They succeeded in Apocrapha timeline and failed in the rest
>>285731074My emperor
>>285731074>brainwashes Karna, Scathach and Lancelot>captures Jeanne and Gil but since they couldn't be brainwashed, they both got turned into mana batteriesKarl the GoAT.
What would happen if Saiba meets Leonhardt in a Grail War?
>>285731087Nope both the Nazis and the Imperial Army get involved trying to steal the Grail, Apo is just the timeline where they succeed.
>>285731114He would go on and on how great of a fan he is and Artoria would just awkwardly stand there having no idea how to handle this situation
>>285731101Strange how they succeeded in Apo since the Einzbern still has their Servant. We know how desperate they are to protect the grail. Maybe the Tohsaka's and Makiri's servant got Ruler CSed to death and Amakusa didn't make it in time.
>>285731114Richard gushes over her before trying his damnedest to kill her.
>>285731074Speaking of which,Is there a mention of charlemagne and his twelve paladins in FSF?
>>285730975I do not enjoy seeing any part of Fate animated, the act of adaptation is a crime
>>285731137iirc Darnic stole the Grail while Shirou was busy fighting his servant (which the anime revealed it was Fionn)
>>285730975The second HGW that ends with everything and everyone dead.
>>285730498>>285730552
>>285730498For an assassin this girl ain't very stealthy
>>285730941>>285731095>we could have another 1 or few more chapters playing as takeru against iori, who is becoming a full murderhobo
>>285731246She's supposed to be a massive fuckup
>>285731193True but what happened to the other servants from the other 2 founding families? We know Amakusa touched the grail and was incarnated, Zouken was crawling on the ground in despair as the grail got stolen and Amakusa and Risei had to go save the Tohsaka of that war.
>>285731246She is the worst assassin in the history of assassins. This is foundational to her character, that all her killing ability is totally useless because she is so utterly incompetent.
>>285731277t-that's kinda sounds way worse, makes her look like an absolute jobber
>>285731277That's not Jingke anon
>>285731297I mean she has jobbed every single time she showed up, she was even having issues against the cops.
>>285731317>>285731297To be fair except King Hassan, Tez, and Charlotte corday all of assassins in fate are joobers
>>285731268Did Zouken die in Apocrypha or he was just wounded?
>>285731345By the numbers, Kashin Koji is a very powerful assassin but she's never been put in the spotlight.
>>285731345>Charlotte cordaythis one??
>>285731376Yeah, she died in the process but at least she got the job done
>>285731376She got the job done with her big beautiful tits.
>jobber assassinsImagine having anti female NP boosted if there is mist and failing to kill a bitch in a misty night
>>285731376Did her death scene get voiced in a FGO Fes?I only found Mandy and Orion voiced scenes from Road to 7 campaign
>>285731361The Apo anime showed him crawling on the ground reaching for the stolen grail.
>>285731421>NP is a curse>only uses it against the servant with EX rank magic resistancePoor Jack
>>285731431Speaking of command seals, Ayaka has enough to make Richard her stool.
>>285731399>John Wilkes Booth in F/SF would have been better than either Assassins
>>285731297>t-that's kinda sounds way worse, makes her look like an absolute jobberIronically what makes her an admirable PERSON, makes her a bad assassin. She is loyal, trusting, works hard and stay true to her faith. But she doesn't have a drop of psychopathy in her soul as such she naively believe that hard work would lead to promotions.She basically became a workhorse for her clan and never got a single leadership role. Her innocent soul believing that her lack of career advancement was because she isn't doing a good enough job. She worked hard for the rest of her life but never earned fame. A sad end but still, I like her as a human. She really shouldn't have benn born into Assasinhood. She was too innocent.
>>285731440https://youtu.be/xdO6lVEXZmk?list=PL0lYvBiGqoHYgHeJEi3IWDNi-xBrbCBWa&t=36
>>285729058Can someone explain the maximum target shit? You're telling me EA can't hit more than 1000 people at once when it made a crater the size of an island?
>>285731470ThanksI fucking love the Neo-ArgonautsJason best captain!
>>285731474don't think too hard about it, it's just a chuni vn from 20 years ago
>>285731474That's just the part of Nasu that wanted to pretend Fate was a TTRPG. It is not any kind of factual limitation. He just wanted to write it out as though it had a "cap".
>>285731464>works super hard as an assassin killing hundreds of people >She was too innocent.Simps are insane
>>285731516Delete this trash.
>>285731516me on the right
>>285731516me on the left
>>285731451>Speaking of command seals, Ayaka has enough to make Richard her stool.Now that I read spoilers about her, Ayaka is going to give Richard enough mana to face all the other monsters in the war. Desth Apostle mana? Easy. Mob boss 25000 corpses mana battery? several month's worth is nothing. A dozen mages supplying their mana all together? even easier.Basically multiple masters have found ways to give almost never ending mana to their servants. Some just did it accidentally.
>>285731524Maybe there are mages who hold TTRPG sessions as brainstorming prep for Grail Wars.
>>285731470Man I still love that Orion scene
>>285731548>Simps are insaneShe was so innocent that she never once doubted that her own people were betraying her and keeping her down out of jealousy. That she was never promoted because they hated her. She was too innocent to see evil in her fellow clan members.
>>285731594Not him but the word you should have used is "naive" instead of "innocent"
>>285731551Jester...
>Herc's Master used the mana crystal conversion system of Medea's first Masterheh
>>285731451He rizzed her up so hard that she won't need CS. lol.
>>285731451Ayaka doesn't have command spells, and she is not a Master.Every single time in the novels, it is noted that she has "tattoos like command spells", and never even once is she stated to have command spells.Even Watcher's Shadows, who are omniscient within Snowfield, say outright that she's not a Master, of Saber or otherwise. Richard has been a masterless stray servant this entire time, the magical energy supply that comes from Ayaka is not that of Master and Servant, but just a battery. As noted, she easily supplies energy to Zealot too without ever entering into a contract with her.
I still believe someone will write Prototype someday...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3BXSS4DCtM
>>285731449she also failed to kill the cripple girl
>>285731851I don't. Any JP author would say "Nasu has to write that" and Nasu would say "I am absolutely not writing that".
>>285731754Didn't Medea said that was extremely inneficient?
>>285731869It's not efficient in the least, which is why the Scladio family went with quantity over quality.
>>285731868Sometimes I think the other authors' attempt to respect Nasu is holding them backNasu always seems like he's forcing Narita to let loose going by what Narita said in his FSF afterwords
>>285731851>under Sakurai's thumbNo thanks.
>>285731968Sakurai only wrote Fragments
>>285731869They used over 20,000 people to power Herc.
>>285732010And Lost something, which is on hiatus since 2022 I think?Still better than Requiem though.I swear LN authors should be punishable for starting LNs only to drop them after 1-2 volumes.
>>285731869>Didn't Medea said that was extremely inneficient?It's like running a powerplant using burnable trash; it doesn't matter that it is not efficient if the fuel is free.
>>285732143ThisIt’s fucking AmericaNo one is gonna complain over some gangster corpses
>>285732157>gangster corpsesIs not just "gangster" but whoever the family considers an enemy, so you can expect a few shop owners who refused the "protection" program to be there too
>>285732179>Is not just "gangster" but whoever the family considers an enemy, so you can expect a few shop owners who refused the "protection" program to be there tooRegardless it isn't like they were killed to be batteries. More like, instead of being shipped to feed pigs, the victims were put into more productive use. They just diverted their disposal pipeline slightly.
>>285732179>Alcides is powered by 10,000 Mexicans
>>285732229Well he is brown
>>285732010She's been writing Proto Arthur afterwards.
>>285732229>jobs to a white cop
>>285732255now he is red
>>285731914Both Narita and Sanda don't want to use important characters since they think Nasu should write them but Nasu never gives a fuck and lets them use whatever, so yeah it's retarded. Meanwhile Sakurai writes whoever she feels like usually for the worse.
I heard some things got cut. Are those things specific to the manga or to the LN?
>>285732364Lots from the LN, some from the manga.
>>285732364>some things got cut.They are gonna butcher it and still they will only cover like 1/4 of the work
>>285731345In Fragments, Serenity kills:>Assassin’s master (her own) via poison kiss>Berserker’s master (Hyde’s) via poison kiss>majority of Rider’s master’s (Ozymandias’) clan via poison dance. I don’t remember if the Master died among them, only that since he had the Mask, when he died, Ozy was linked to the Mask and didn’t disappear
>>285732364Most of Tsubaki stuff, which was a retarded move
>>285731449Shimousa manga she kills Raikou and Shuten
>>285732378>>285732379>>285732398ok thank you. I'm starting the VN today. The anime is pretty and all but it does feel like some things are left out.
>>285732334Ironically, the most miss author (also a woman) is the one whose work ethic is more free than other non-Nasu writers
>>285732427the LN* my bad
What's taking so long with the final novel?
>>285732383haram
>>285732475too many plot points to solve
>>285732398Why? What's so important about them?
>>285732568Tsubaki is responsible for the entirety of volume 6, which delves into her wishes and her servant, and shapes how several characters interact and behave following that. She becomes a motivation for Sigma and Zealot and a target for Jester. Her inadvertent choices and her deliberate choices help shape the fate of the city.The anime didn't quite capture the scale of her wish that nobody would leave the city, nor its devastating consequences as Snowfield becomes a deathtrap.
Herc Rider when?
>>285732617In all the fanart I've seen of Fake during years I've seen this "couple" and I always assumed they look about the same, the "teenage" pair.But "lancer" looks like a shota in the show and seems really tiny
>gets the best servant in the best possible class>nerfs him with mudWhat's wrong with mafia guy? Wants to lose on purpose or something?
>>285732690A hero with moral and ethic will not agree to what that edgy mafia is gonna do
>>285732364>I heard some things got cut.They cut the funniest scene so far, which would have taken 5 extra seconds to adapt.
>>285731449Nice ass crack. Not so nice everything else...>>285732422Based.
>>285732690Fate/Zero is a practical application of what happens when masters that want to win get good servants in good classes: Artoria and Diarmuid were giving more trouble than help to their masters because of honor.It wasn't as much of a problem to Waver because he was open to discuss and learn from Iskandar, but a bad pairing caused Kiritsugu to have a handicap since he'd need 2 CS to order Saber to get anything done against her will.Meanwhile Kirei still hadn't accept his inner sadism, so Assassin was wasted on him.From this point of view, burning 3 to ensure your servant will be in line with your view, and therefore obedient for the rest of the entire war, is far more beneficial.
>>285732659Their precise ages are unclear, but they should both be around 18.
>>285732690>nerf him with mudEnkidu literally kills him if he was still normal Herk.
>>285732690He is actually a little retarded. Due to his dependency on his own Domination magecraft to function, he doesn't have a good ability to work with others. The idea that he could've just worked with Heracles as an individual and taken the best strategy to win within Herc's morality is beyond his ability to stomach. He has to be in control and set the mission plan.
SEIBA!
>>285732617I mean, they can easily move that part later, it doesn't really matter.Especially because they are not reaching volume 6 in this season anyways.
>>285732774Don't you stop being a master once you use the three command seals though?
Herc is simply too heroic, too divine and too kind to win
>>285730770The red tattoos increase Ayaka's sexiness by unquantifiable levels.
>>285731851I want Manaka to step on me with her bare feet.
>>285732955Nope. The Master's Authority is something different and you need a procedure to remove - which Rule Breaker does.There is an intersection but Nasu never fully explained it. Medusa does tell Shirou even though Sakura was out of CS, the contract remained and she was her servant for example.
I honestly thought False Assassin wore shoes, and now I feel dumb
>>285732690Herc never had the making of a varsity servant
>>285732955Nope. You're still considered a Master. It's just losing all 3 means you can't stop your Servant from disobeying or killing you.
a sane Herc would be good to save the worldbut to participate in a killing ritual? Nope
>>285733091Oh fuck, she's throwing out Balrog's Real Impact!
>>285732659>But "lancer" looks like a shota in the show and seems really tinyWhatever supersoldier serum they did to him slowed his aging but hypothetically shortens his actual lifespan.
>>285733151If servant against servant, that's honor and sport so it isn't an issue to most servants. They tend to draw lines when you are attacking masters though.
>>285732774was this scene necessary
>>285733088Bare feet are quieter and less smelly.
>>285733094How many betrayals can Herc take?
>>285733186They had to show how her body ''lacked feminine beauty'' or something yes
>>285733183>If servant against servant, that's honor and sport so it isn't an issue to most servants. They tend to draw lines when you are attacking masters though.Yeah, attacking the master is usually the EASY way out. But technically if everyone agree to only fight with Servants then no one has to permanently die. It's just that killing the master is so much easier that no war ever keep it civil.
>>285733186Yes.Very.
It’s weird Hera still doesn’t have an official design
>>285732842a clay golem can't stop a true hero
>>285733315I meant the chains...His Divinity is through the roof. Both the Clayman and the Chain from Gil just ends him and he doesn't have the Berserker stat boost to break it.
>>285733315Herc would never pick fights like Alcides to begin with
>>285733341I don't think it was the Berserker class that allowed him to break the chains.
>>285733419Explain?
bruh why is fate so popular, the writing is completely nonsensical with one asspull after anotherlike gods are software progams, but "magic" exists. this is all so fucking retarded
>>285733464I just don't think it was the Berserker class. I think it was something that Herc can do because he's Herc.
>>285733503Waifus
>>285733503Porn
>>285732911NO! Everything needs to be the same NOW NOW NOW NOW!!!
>>285733503Nobody cares about the lore autism that Nasu has.
>>285733503seriously, nothing in this (or in the lore for that matter, i checked) makes any sense. the whole type moon universe is an incoherent mess where the writers just threw random shit at the wall
>>285733503Most gods are incarnated phenomena. Magic is just reality hacking.
>>285733660It's all surprisingly consistent once you remember that the only "rules" are true magic, and every other "rule" is just expectation based on current convention. When the "rules" are made of gelatin instead of steel, they flex with a good push.
>>285733529Okay cool.
>>285733667dude, none of your words make any sense, magic = reality hacking is at best jsut a simple metaphor>>285733693uhuh. and what is 'true magic' then? the lore has gods as being robots and 'software' that somehow still fucked to make offspring (prelati e.g. who somehow died and got to be a servant but aktshually didn't die)like dude, come on. all of this is complete schizo babble. the mage ttrpg all of this clearly stolen from at least has coherent lore
