How come Fate is only really popular in Japan?
>>285733914FUCK OFF BACK TO TWITTER YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
is it really weird for japanese media to be more popular in japan than everywhere else?
>>285733914Even a show as spasticly paced and action focused as Strange Fake expects too much of the average zoomer/nigger Western anime tourist.
>>285734202Such a dishonest question isnt worth considering.
I think people in america are retarded. The third world doesn't matter and Europe sucks.
>>285733914type moon fucked up marketing itself to the west. It took too long to release VN on steam, Tsukihime still not released cuz reasons. FGO 2 years behind.Samurai remnant is Japan samurai autism. Really Fate is best when its western heroes in modern world, there are too many Japan slop stories.Also FGO ending shows that Nasu is creatively bankrupt.
>>285735841Not caring about the west is the right move, they bring too much drama and barely any money.
>>285733914Westoids like mindless action, not action with characters with emotions or some sort of development
Drawfag here. Here's a theory I've been cooking up for quite some time. Japanese artists...get a boost in likes and retweets from Japanese people, simply for being of the same race. Some artists who aren't even Japanese try to take advantage of this by using machine translations.
>>285733914F/GO makes plenty of money in america.
>>285735896>they bring too much drama and barely any money.This is literally the opposite of the reality. Global market is bigger than Japan now and what drama? Only losers and grifters care about drama, if anything drama brings in money.
>>285733914Amwf propaganda doesn't sell outside Asia
>>285735998For anime products? Hell no lol. Japan and China are the main markets for it.
>>285736094Look what a weazel you are, you literally had to add China to your side to win the argument. Do you really think China loves Japan wank?
>>285736094>>285736134not to mention China causes infinitely more drama than your meaningless nothingburger twitter drama
>>285736134China consumes a shitload of anime and they even make their own nowadays, so yeah they do. The west doesn't and loses their shit over lolis or some other bullshit every other week.
>>285735841>Fate is best when its western heroes in modern worldNo, it's best when it has a core of human characters to focus on and show thier reaction to and growth from dealing with the HGW. That's what made the original VN compelling. Shirou's story is the core of what made Fate Stay Night popular in the first place. The HGW was just a vehicle to drive that story.
>>285736222>the west loses shit over loliswhat the fuck does this sentence even mean? Does anime get banned or youre just consuming too much grifter slop on twitter? Because China literally censors lolis or bans anime with them.FGO in China is censored to shit, US version is completely uncensored. Youre ignorant and brainroted. A lot of things get censored because of China and not the west, contrary to chud opinion
>>285736460>chudOh it's a lefty poster.
>>285736345So you dont even like Fate, why are you here? Since only the VN is like that. And i'm guessing youre just a Saber fag, so you dont even like the whole VN
>>285736488Well sure as hell im not a poltard that gets opinions from some grifter making things up. You know the Stellar Blade fiasco? Yeah it was censored, for China, but that's not the narrative youve heard im sure. Concession accepted, dont reply. Educate yourself
>>285736499Shirou's story extends across every route of the VN. I don't what deranged wiki based knowledge you have of it to think Shirou is only the focus of 1 route.
>>285733914Dunno, there's been like 8 threads for the latest episode and most of those hit the reply limit too. Yes, your casual friends don't watch it because they tried Apocrypha once for the Astolfo memes
>>285736460Guilty crown...Code Geas...
>>285736038As if anyone thinks of asian male when they see a ginger.
>>285733914>Eroge series turing into shonen slop....Symbolism of japan being cocked....
Nasu fucked up the ending for part 2 of FGO so incredibly bad that it made Sakurai look like a good writer and that soured a lot of people on Fate as a whole.
>>285733914It's part of a massive multimedia franchise/universe that spans novels, PC games, console games, phone games, and manga, the majority of which have never been officially translated or weren't anywhere near its release.The one thing that always gets localized, anime, is usually an incomplete ad for the source material or compilation like in nature. I haven't read or watched FSF but I'm guessing it barely explains how heroic spirits, grail war, etc. works so it's going to be super inaccessible to the casuals in the west that only watch internationally focused anime adaptations like JJK
>>285733914Because Fate has been nothing but gachashit for the past decade. Even FS/N fans don't care for it.
>>285735911so why don't they like Fate then?
>>285739994You miss half the plot in Fate shows if you don't already have previous knowledge of Nasu's autistic universe.
>>285733914Way too chuuni for your average normie and your average guy struggles with viewing order because they're too retarded to research>>285734720Partially this too, you get a lot more out of the show if you're familiar with earlier Nasu works and the historical references
>>285733914fate has garbage, shitty writing. only japs could fall for it
Because the franchise went to shit after Zero aired.
>>285736499>Since only the VN is like thatNo, Extra and Samurai Remnant were like that too. Masters are important; the protagonist even more so.
>>285736038so... asian servants are for white men?
Thoughts on the top nine Servants that I'd smash?
>>285740859Relatively mundane selection of beautiful and shapely women.
>>285740859That Boudica is kinda ugly
>>285733914same reason they keep producing isekai slop every season. they have shit taste
>>285740859>S tierMorgan>A tierMedusa, Semi>B tierNero>F tierEverything else
>>285733914Nobody likes Fate in this planet, you just play the games and buy the merchandise, obviously the japanese are going to be more involved in that.
>>285733914Because Aniplex USA is incompetent as fuck
>>285735932>not even a 15% of the japanese revenuewow
>>285740304>normie
>>285736460>chudGo back.
>>285733914because its confusing, does not have enough saber and most people don't want to admit knowledge of things connected to PrismaIllya
>>285740859Banal
The west is cumming over JJK with the schizo animation and woke themesIts clear who has better taste
>>285742893>woke themesStfu
>>285736460Detroit EMIYA is censored in FGO USA with a lighter skin tone.
>>285733914People like Stay Night or Zero but they don't care about the convoluted larger universe or the spinoff and gacha or the prisma illya shit.
>>285744182lmao, you're right! Why didn't I notice it before?Is it really a matter of western sensibilities?
>>285745368They didn't want to be called racist.
the same characters with slightly different story rehashed for 10+ tv shows
>>285740486there arent stories where masters arent important, your argument is piss poor.
>>285733914Watch order autism unironically.
>>285735841FGO in the west is literally the #1 Gacha for overseas though
>>285749461source?
>>285733914Here me out, though.I'll take a Fate series over that Rent-a-Girlfriend, Hajimete no Gal long-ass romcom bullshit that ain't even romantic or funny.Fate Apocrypha, FGO Babylonia, FGO Camelot, and Fate Strange Fake are my favorites.Also upskirt panty shots, female crotch exposure, and "what red-blooded guy WOULDN'T shove himself up IshtaRin's holes?"
>>285735924Nips artist do like to retweet other artists.And I have a sneaking suspicion that people generally just have such a good impression of Japan that people from other countries actually think that pretending to be Japanese would result in more engagement.>whyI just checked novelupdates for the first time in years and the first story I clicked pn, despite being listed as JP, is a trash CN novel. The old translation of the original story is still there, unfinished. But, for some reason, the new group was posting a completely different story.It's been almost a decade since I've read anything CN, as their stories are somehow devoid of anything of value. I wonder if my stance is not as extreme as I thought.
>>285733914Kill yourself tranny
>>285747494Apocrypha, FGO
>>285742893Which woke themes? I didn't watch it yet
I just sort of hate how F/GO printing money made Nasu hyper-fixate on the Grail War and making the Grail War be the very foundation of human society or some shit. It was supposed to be some obscure Japanese shamanism the larger magical world didn't know or care about. Like imagine if Tsukihime had had a gacha instead and the entire Nasuverse wrapped itself around making the ShiKILLER the most badass motherfucker in the world who goes and fights magical crime with Ciel & Arc.
Shirou kotomine = masterGordes = masterShishigou = masterFiore and caules = mastersso, youre wrong Sieg is not shirou, but his story is still imortant to the story. = masterFGO is not about protag like the vn, but its absolutely about masters when they appear in the story. Crypters are masters and super important to the story.
80% of it is untranslated, what is translated is translated poorly, and in general Nasu and friends don't really care about overseas audiences anyway.
>>285736460>banning highschool romancesI thought China wanted to increase its birth rate?What better way to increase it than by promoting people getting married young?I can understand the banning the overthrow of the government thing. The people's republic wants to cling on power but the highschool romance thing is stupid.
>>285736692>poltard that gets opinions from some grifter making things up.I think that China and the West (mostly american lefties) and maybe Saudi Arania are all a problem for anime but you show your true political agenda with your previous replies.
>>285736460>what the fuck does this sentence even meanAustralia, Texas anti-loli legislations. The Texas anti-loli stuff is caused by right-wingers but otherwise it is mostly caused by leftists especially feminist anti-"objectification" leftists.China seems to have less problems with lolis but you are right that they are a problem for other anime stuff.
>>285735841Its better this way, we dont want it to become censored wokeslop for retarded normalfaggots
>>285736460>>285754756And also the whole UN criticizing the way anime treats women thing. The UN is international and a lot of the bullshit side of the UN comes from third world countries but the whole gender and lgbt stuff of the UN comes from the western ngo side of things.
>>285733914Bah. Fate sucks, call me when Mahoyo becomes an international sensation
>>285754775Yes diversity and inclusion... in workplaces, not in anime, not that it is even objectively a bad thing.
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>>285733914despite cutting most dialogue-heavy scenes in favor of fights and action from the novel, it's still not enough for the average western normgroid
>M-Muh China not censoringWhat the fuck are you talking about.They censor worse than ust.Vietnamese
>>285754775>Indigenous peopleWho do they mean? Ainu, Ryukyu? Why aren't the japanese considered indigenous people?This whole indigenous people thing is stupid. Swedish, Germans, French, Irish aren't considered indigenous people in their own home countries but the Sami (all studies indicate that they came after the nordics to Scandinavia) are for some reason. Finnish are also related to the Sami but they aren't considered indigenous.
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>>285733914Boring art style & designs the standout is the faggot with pink hair The rest look like background characters
>>285754956What a retard
>>285754868>Yes diversity and inclusion... in workplaces, not in animeThe word promotion here is the important part and it implies that Japan should also implement these policies in their media and there is also the implication that if the society changes the media also changes the media.>not that it is even objectively a bad thing.Why? Why should they employ more foreigners and promote them in the workplace? This also has the side effect of importing foreign labor to change the demographics and decrease their salaries and making the job market worse. Everything gets screwed up for the average japanese. Why should they promote faggots and trannies in the workforce?Why should they want more women in the workforce? It only lead to a worse job market and less children.You show your leftist ideology.
>>285755004>there is also the implication that if the society changes the media also changes the media.Too late for that bro>Why should they employ more foreigners and promote them in the workplace?Theyve been doing that for ages, not because of diversity but by necessity. Nobody has ever made this retarded argument that you need to hire "foreigners" just for diversity, that's not how any of those hiring practices workYoure just ignorant and repeat fearmongering talking points by other ignorant people
>>285741621I just assume that fgo makes infinity money in jerpan so 15% of infinity would still be a lot.
>>285755021>Nobody has ever made this retarded argument that you need to hire "foreigners" just for diversityThat's the main purpose of these policies and it explicity says foreigners here>>285754775. You are being willfully ignorant.>not because of diversity but by necessityIt doesn't explain why they import a massive amount of people and give them welfare. It's a deliberate policy. The economic purpose is wage dumping not becaus eit is an actual policy and it's often the case it doesn't even matter if they will be employed or not, they are still getting imported.
>>285755064>It doesn't explain why they import a massive amount of peopleLess people but demand is higher. Simple math.Think about it, Japan's population is shrinking but there is now more anime being made than ever with higher demand than ever, how can Japan keep up alone? Answer = they cant.>The economic purpose is wage dumping not becaus eit is an actual policysource?
>>285755021>Nobody has ever made this retarded argument that you need to hire "foreigners" just for diversity, that's not how any of those hiring practices workhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/02/01/diversity-drive-make-countryside-less-white/>Diversity drive to make Britain’s countryside ‘less white’>Rural areas tasked with coming up with strategies to attract more ethnic minorities to reflect multicultural nationDiversity means making your environment more brown/black just for genocidal reasons.
>>285733914shit taste, as always
>>285754756>>285754775All I'm getting from this is that there are a bunch of rightoids here criticizing leftoids and yet the right wing party consistently shows that they're willing to punish you more than any leftoid, who mainly just virtue signal laws about drawings with little enforcement.All because a 12 year old on Twitter hurt your feelings.
